WEBVTT - Ep 126: MGMT 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:02.920 You know, there were lots of moments where we were like, 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.440 oh my god, like we should not have messed with 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:07.880 these people. Like we were trying to kind of prank 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.400 people and like, oh, you think that we're baby shambles 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.720 rock stars, so we're gonna like get wasted and act 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:17.520 like that. And then it's like, oh, now it's on 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:19.880 like a newspaper the next day. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.520 So we had to stop doing that pretty quickly. 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:26.120 Hey how are you doing, Greg? 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.560 I'm good, Thanks to you. How are you? 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.520 I'm doing very well? Thank you. Hello to everyone listening. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.239 Thank you for downloading this episode of Midnight Chat's the 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.120 late night interview podcast where Greg and I get to 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.240 meet some of our favorite musicians every week. Tonight's guests 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.919 on the show are two people who, Greg, you have 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.960 a very deep and personal relationship with. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.440 I guess deep and personal or just met them a 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.240 long time ago. Yeah, I'm being a bit facetious that. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.800 The reason I say that is because tonight's go is MGMT, 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:07.119 the American duo MGMT, who I must admit, but I've 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:08.959 never It's not that I've not been a fan of 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:10.880 this band. I've just never really. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.360 Listened to them. If I'm totally honest. Other than the 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.480 huge hits that everyone will know, Kids Time to Pretend, 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:19.039 Electric Feel, beyond that, I am struggling a little bit. 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.840 You were there from the beginning. You interviewed them when 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.800 they came to London way back. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.119 I did. I interviewed them on one of their very 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:28.240 first trips to the UK, when they were first playing 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.039 shows over here two thousand and seven, and so it 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.280 was nice to get to speak to them again and 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.400 remind myself that that was a long time ago. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.000 What I really enjoyed when I listened to this was 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.840 a few things actually, but ultimately MGMT were quite a 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.800 party band back then, weren't they. They were known for 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:53.760 enjoying the good things in life and some substances, shall 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.920 we say. And I did get the feeling, Greg that 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:01.360 a lot of the time they I didn't remember anything 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.240 at all, And I think there were times when you 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.840 were asking questions and I could hear them thinking, I 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:09.320 don't know what. 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.359 This guy's talking about. I actually thought their recall was 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.960 pretty good, considering Yeah, I mean we're talking about an 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.560 area here where MGMT we're releasing, like you say, Kids 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.760 Electric Feel songs like Time to Pretend, which lots of 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:26.120 people would have heard recently on the Saltburn soundtrack, and yeah, 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.680 it was a huge time for them when they kind 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:33.080 of emerged. They were suddenly supporting Paul McCartney in baseball 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.600 stadiums and meeting arts hit monkeys, et cetera, et cetera, 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:41.280 both of which they talk about in this podcast. And 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.280 the reason we were talking to them is because they 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.239 recently released their fifth album, Loss of Life, back in February, 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.240 which is amazing. You said that you haven't listened to 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.000 them too much of recent times. I think this is 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.639 their best album and it's got two of my favorite 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.880 MGMT songs, and it's got people in the streets and 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.480 nothing changes, both of which I urge people to go 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.320 and check out because I think they're amazing, and they 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:10.160 do still have that sort of shy, introverted, mischievous, offbeat 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.800 sense of humor where you're not actually quite sure whether 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:14.919 what they're telling you is true or not, Like the 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.240 story that Andrew tells in it about Adele singing him 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.600 Happy Birthday, and we revisit some good stories through and 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.040 I'm not sure if he knows if that was true. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.880 I know that's I think that goes back to your 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.520 earlier point about how much they were taking in at 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.440 that point before we get into this view and mindful 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.519 that we need to do a quick TikTok update after 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.480 we spoke about it on last week's King Gizzard introduction. 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.760 Yeah, it's not good, Greg, I think they might be 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:39.240 going down. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.280 I didn't even realize that was a thing that could happen. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.240 Yeah, the TikTok's not going well, but it's still there. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:48.000 If you'd like to follow us, it's Midnight Chat's pod. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.080 Instagram's going better. There's some stuff on Instagram, and I'll 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:52.800 tell you what is on Instagram actually has a picture 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.240 of us from around the time you would have first 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.320 interviewed MGMT two thousand and seven. That's something that I 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.080 just happened to post a while but it is there 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.240 in the grid. So if you want to see how 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.960 Greg and I used to look. Greg looked a lot 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.040 worse and I looked a lot better. That's what That's 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.920 what we've come up with from that. That's all that's 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:16.800 to us. Here is on episode one hundred and twenty 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.560 six of Midnight Chats. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.159 Is it think it's. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:25.279 Greg Cochran talking to MGMT. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.400 Ben it was your birthday yesterday, wasn't it? 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:35.840 It was? 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.880 It was? It was that my internet research told me 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.839 that I'm not like a kind of creepy talker, like 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:42.640 how did you know? 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:43.400 I know? 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:45.719 How? Did did you have a good one happy birthday? 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.920 Thank you? Yeah? I just turned forty one, which is. 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.960 It feels like the most uneventful birthday in a way, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.359 which I really enjoy. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.960 Did you do something eventful for your fortieth? Did you? Like? 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.119 Did you go big on that one? 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:00.000 Did? 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.000 Did a woodworking class yesterday, like an intro to woodworking, 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:04.960 which was really fun. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:06.000 What did you make? 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.400 I made a cutting board, so basically a block of wood, 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.239 but but it's. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:12.000 It's cool. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:12.880 It was. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.960 It was really fun, like working on the big tools 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.960 and learning how to like you know, perfectly square the 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:20.360 corners and stuff like that. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:20.920 It was fun. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:22.919 Dare I ask Andrew do you do? Do you do 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.080 presents to each other on each other's birthdays? 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.880 We did for fortieth both of our last year. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.760 Well, I know, I forced our managers to like go 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.880 in on this big present and I was really happy 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.640 about that and it's great. 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:37.720 Ben loves it. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:42.200 Yeah, it's really really nice chair like a click a 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.799 very classy, classy kind of lounge chair that it looks 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.000 like you should be like smoking a pipe sitting in 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.159 it or something like that. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.800 That feels very that feels so adult. For like forty, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.279 Like I got a really nice chair. What did what 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.839 did what did you get for your you forty? Andrew? 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.720 Did you? What did you get for your fortieth? 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.680 So for my fortieth, I was it was like a 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:08.000 joint present with Ben and our managers and my wife 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.919 and uh, they chipped in and got like a projector 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.160 screen and projector for our house. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.520 So we have like a little home cinema setup. Now. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.239 Well, I'm super excited to speak to you both because 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.760 we have met once before. And I was looking back 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.080 at the dates and the run up to this, and 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.200 it was November two thousand and seven, which, much to 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:32.920 my horror, is like seventeen years ago. It was. It 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:37.200 was backstage at a venue called Coco in London. We 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.680 were young, and we were fresh, and and I think 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.560 I feel like, Andrew, you might have been wearing like 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.080 a cape on stage that night or something like that. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:47.120 Could that be possible. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:48.160 It's highly likely. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:50.360 It's very possible. 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.400 Yeah, probably like a cape and like leggings must like 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.040 kind of go to back. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.760 Then you were you were playing on a bill with 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.400 some other bands, one of one of them my remember, 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.560 which was the Courteenas, who were a British band who 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:07.040 are still still going now. But yeah, what what were 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.400 your what are your memories from those like first tours, 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.120 those first like movements outside of the States. 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:14.040 Is that sorry? 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.160 Is that the that's not the venue that had like 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.960 the like giant giant disco ball, is it? 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.160 It is? It is? And it's like there's like a dome, 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.240 so from outside it looks like an old theater and 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.760 there's a big dome, and then inside there's, uh, there's 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.160 like the floor and then maybe like three tiers where 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.200 people would be watching the bands. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.680 Yeah, I remember. I'm pretty sure that we the like 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:37.360 following Winter. 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.320 We played there with when we were on tour with 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.320 Florence in the Machine, and I think I remember the 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.760 the backstage being this like very like little like narrow 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.000 stairways up to like dressing rooms and stuff. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:51.240 Yeah, that's exactly it. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.080 I don't remember too much about that time period though, 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.240 so that's kind of impressive. 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.520 Impressive that you don't remember that. 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.119 I do remember that. I remember there's a disco. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.920 Yeah, you're please are the recollection on that? Well? What 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:07.800 about you, Ben, What were your memories of sort of, 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.160 you know, basically the band going abroad for the first time. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.800 Did it feel overwhelming? Did he take it in your stride? 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:16.720 Was it just sort of like I mean, I remember 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.080 you both being like fairly relaxed. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.320 Yeah, I mean, I think, well it was, I mean 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.440 it was. It was a wild time for us because 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.400 so many things were happening for the first time, and 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.320 I think, I mean, we didn't have like the normal 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:35.000 trajectory of having like been in a band for a 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:39.840 long time, just like doing the whole like touring and 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.960 everything before things really blew up, So it was like 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.600 it was all happening in real time, just right in 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:52.760 that moment. And and I I don't know if I 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.320 think probably a lot of people who talk to us 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.880 around that time didn't really like realize that or like 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.760 fully realized that about us. So I I think, you know, 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.080 probably a lot of the ways in which we came 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.040 across as pretty strange in that at that point in 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:11.920 time like could be attributed to that also just us 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.320 being weird weird people in general. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:18.120 But yeah, when I think back on it, it seems 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:22.480 like we both had this, uh, this kind of smug 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.400 quality because we thought that it was all just going 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.560 to totally vanish and that this was kind of just like, 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.800 you know, there's no way this would actually last. It 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.920 was it was so ridiculous, and suddenly we're in England 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.240 having just been you know, touring in a van, and 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.760 I don't know, it's just like it all felt like 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.320 like a kind of surreal joke, and then you know, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.720 over the course of the next year, it quickly became 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:48.960 less of a joke. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.800 Yeah, for better or for worse. 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.920 And I just I always remember, like, speaking from the 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.560 UK perspective, like lots of the music publications, we're trying 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.280 to sort of box MGMT in describe what you were doing. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.719 So like at one time you were like you were 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.080 you were indie, another time you were like new Rave, 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.319 another time you were sort of like this new wave 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:14.559 of like psychedelic pop music, and they were all you know, basically, 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:18.400 you know, when music journalists are struggling to describe what 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.880 an artist sounds like, when they reach for words like 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:25.480 oddball or like oddball poples something like that, And did 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.480 you find all that quite funny at the time as 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.040 people were trying to sort of like characterize you and 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:31.680 what you did. 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.360 It was funny in the same sense that I was 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.040 just saying, where it's like it's funny, like oh my god, Like, 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:39.199 how are we in this situation now where the British 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.080 you know, tabloid media is coming up with ideas and 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:48.080 stories about us. So I think we had fun playing 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:53.559 into their expectations and kind of like foiling them if 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:58.480 we could, but then also quickly realized that we were 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:05.000 like way overpowered like that we had we you know, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:06.920 there were lots of moments where we were like, oh 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.480 my god, like we should not have messed with these people. 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.559 Like we were trying to kind of prank people and like, 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:18.679 oh you think that we're you know, baby shambles rock stars, 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.800 so we're gonna like get wasted and act like that. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:24.560 And then it's like, oh, now it's on like a 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:29.400 newspaper the next day, So we had to stop doing 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:30.280 that pretty quickly. 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.080 It just definitely in lots of ways it forced us to. 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.439 Change our approach to music and what we were doing. 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:40.839 Well. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:41.960 There was a lot going on. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.720 I mean, it did feel like in some ways there 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:50.880 was like a combination of of like being sort of 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.320 built up by journalists to be this like kind of 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:58.560 this contrived like thing that like you know, either like 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.439 fit into a box or fit into a scene or 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.280 something like that, which is wild to us because I 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.320 think we kind of we were just like doing what 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.760 we were doing and didn't feel attached to a particular 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.960 scene or something. And then and the other side of it, too, 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.280 was it felt like, in some ways it felt like 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.720 we were being built up just so that we could 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.240 be taken down, you know. And I think, as you know, 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.080 it happens with a lot of like movements in popular 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.760 culture where it's like, you know, there's this thing that's huge, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.080 and then it's like, oh, that's really not cool anymore, 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.640 and now this other thing is is the thing. And 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.720 you know, I guess I'm grateful that after you know, 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:43.480 however many years, that we're still here, and I think 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.160 part of it is that we were able not to 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:47.840 not take that stuff too seriously. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.679 It's like we were on little jet skis and we 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.640 were like there's like this giant like tanker ship we 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:54.320 were going around like. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.560 And then like they like they're like, oh yeah, like 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.199 we were freaking huge tanker. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.880 And we were just like like, let's get out of here, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:05.880 and we just like then we hid. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:07.960 And went away. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.600 I'm sure it's just the same in the States, but 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.880 the British press are particularly well known for that kind. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.680 Of Uh yeah. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:21.840 Backstab basically. I mean eighteen months after you played that 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.920 Cocoa show, you were you were supporting Paul McCartney in Boston, 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.319 Like it was a wild couple of years. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:33.280 He needed our support too, he wasn't doing that well. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.240 We really propped him up in a moment, although he 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.000 was picking up MGMT in the press of that time, 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.520 which you know, is always a sense that like, you know, 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.760 you know you're doing something right when somebody like Paul 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.040 McCartney is talking about you as like an artist that 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.199 they love because they want to kind of be associated 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:48.360 with the with. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:49.160 The latest thing. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:50.839 That's insanity. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:52.800 Yeah, those shows, what were what were they? Like, dude, 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:53.960 what do you recall from that? 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:57.280 It was? 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.680 Well it was he said, so it was one show. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:04.920 It was it was at uh Fenway Park in Boston, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:13.560 and uh, I don't remember, like we we met Paul 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.200 McCartney and and uh, I mean it was like this 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.080 kind of like Paul will see you now, like this 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.160 very like arranged like. 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:26.680 But he was very yeah, yeah, yeah, it did feel 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.240 it felt a little bit like like having like an 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.880 audience with a with a king or something like that. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.840 But but also like he was very like in that moment, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:39.840 seemed very like genuinely present and uh you know, took 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.160 took time away from whatever he was doing and like 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:46.080 had like a very like warm, like nice handshake and 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:54.000 and very sincere nine seconds. Yeah, but yeah, I remember 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:58.760 there was really terrible Mannicotti in the catering because it 0:14:58.880 --> 0:14:59.680 was like all vegan. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.560 I think all of us catering is vegan, and I 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.360 was just like, oh, man, like this sucks. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.880 I don't want to eat this. And I remember my family. 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:11.880 My family was there, like my mom and I think 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:15.440 my sister, and we were hanging out and it was 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.360 just really fun. We were in the hotel where we 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:22.840 were staying, and the Arctic monkeys were there, and we 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.360 hung out and like we're like having oysters and drinks 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.360 and my mom and Alex Turner were like really getting 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.320 along well and it was just like so fun. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.520 Still in touch now, still chatting. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.240 Yeah, yeah, they're still talking. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:38.080 I'm glad to hear that. You kind of had a 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.280 very sort of like level not take it too seriously 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.080 kind of mentality because you were at the Brits, you 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:45.920 were heading to the Grammys. It was all of this 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.040 like incredibly surreal stuff happening. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.840 Well, one distinct memory I have from around then was 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:58.880 that there was some I guess it was like a 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.440 party at the Beverly Hills Hotel and like on our way, 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:09.040 like in a cab or something, and somebody like we're 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.640 like just walking in and somebody This was like when 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.960 Los Angeles was like a foreign concept to me, Like 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.920 I live here now, it's a very like normal place 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:16.120 to me. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:17.360 But when I was we were coming. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.440 Here on tour and whatever, it was always just like 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.880 this is the most like cuckoo place in the world, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.360 Like what what even is this city? 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.520 And we're walking in still to me. 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.800 By the way, we were like walking into this swanky 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.600 party and somebody's like talking about Ron Jeremy for some reason, 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.640 like just his name comes up. You're like, just as 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:40.120 we're walking into the building, Ron Jeremy is like lounging 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.800 on the sofa in the middle of the lobby of 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.600 the Beverly Hills Hotel and that at that moment, I 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:46.960 feel like that kind of broke my brain. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:48.000 I was just like, what. 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.560 Is was there? Yeah? 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.120 And we went to a Grammy's after party for Columbia, 0:16:55.720 --> 0:17:00.240 our label, and uh, it was my birthday or like 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.119 right around my birthday, Adele saying happy birthday to me. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.399 That's crazy, that is incredible. 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:08.880 You can't make that shit up. 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.840 You need to tell how did that come? Aback, She's 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.400 just like on your table and. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.680 Yeah, she was in like our booth area. It's probably 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.040 not as I'm doubt she's singing the whole song. But 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:25.119 in my mind, after like seventy five years after the 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.480 experience Adele saying happy birthday to me, maybe you could 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:30.360 ask her one day if that actually happened. 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.719 Yeah, I'm trying to think back as well. So if 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.280 this is like twenty ten, is Adele like a global 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:41.320 megastar at this point? I guess she probably is right. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.800 Not like Mega Mega. I don't think like right before. 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.600 Still, though, that's that's a hell of a claim. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.600 Yeah, I know, let's hope it's true. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.320 All of this was happening around the release of the 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.399 debut album Miracular Spectacular and last year you played that 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.919 album in full of the Just Like Heaven festival in Pasadena. 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.040 How how did that feel. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:04.879 Yeah, it was the first time we've done it, and. 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.919 It was really cool because we kind of took it 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.680 as this opportunity. I mean, especially like we hadn't played 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.480 a live show at that point in years, and. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.120 Like it was. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.840 I don't know, I think we'd sort of in distancing 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.280 ourselves from that the idea of the sort of like 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:33.359 nostalgia festival, like revisiting you know, like like we didn't 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.199 want it to feel like like, oh, we're reflecting on 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:42.919 our dinosaur of a career that doesn't exist anymore or something, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.320 And but I think we took it as an opportunity 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.000 to sort of have a sense of humor about that. 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.880 And like we actually worked with a friend who who 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.480 like writes for comedy and and sort of like we 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.080 wrote little skits in the middle and and like I 0:18:58.200 --> 0:18:59.879 ended up having a really good time with it, and 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.639 I think in some ways like reconnected with the spirit 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:05.200 of the band when we started, like before things really 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:10.960 blew up. And and we also had so we dug 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:15.320 up all of our original demo recordings from Oracular Spectacular 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.440 and we actually used a lot of them in the 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:22.000 show where kind of like formed new tracks out of. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:23.760 Them and stuff like that. 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.439 That was fun, like just even seeing the names that 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.359 we would give to different tracks in a recording session. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:33.720 They would always you know these like really silly little 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:36.760 inside jokes back then, and it's sort of like a 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:38.320 time capsule to open it up. 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.200 One off thing, you'd be tended to do it again. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.119 Or was it just like it was fun, just has 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:43.280 something to do and you move on. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:44.520 I don't know. 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.000 I mean, we we put a lot of work into 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.560 that show, like kind of an unreasonable amount of work 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.679 where I think like maybe a you know, like a 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:57.080 more possibly more sensible person would have just been like 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:02.679 take the check and just like just do and but 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.600 we were like, oh, look, they give us like a 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.199 good budget to put on this show, and we just 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.240