1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to a bonus episode of I Saw 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: What You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho, I'm 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Daniel Henderson, and hey, we're just kicking back. 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: We're just taking our shoes off, taking our shirts off. 5 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Bonus episodes are more chill affair, and I know you're 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 3: probably thinking, well, how could they get more chill? We've 7 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: heard the main feed episodes where they're talking about fucking 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: skid marks and dick blood. What the hell is going 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: on in this bonus It's more chill. 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: It's a relaxed skid mark. 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: This is what I like, really really get real philosophical 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: about these skid marks. 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: I've gotten a couple a couple of texts for my 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: friends that are like, y'all went so hard about their 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: skid marks. I was like, well, no, shit, it's a 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: divisive issue. 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 3: I want to know why more people are not talking 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: about it, because we need to normalize the fact that 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: it ain't okay. 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: Well, everybody that text me was like, oh, I have 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: a bad opinion on it, but I just don't think 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: i've ever heard people like, really, you know, present a 23 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: party line on it. 24 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: I was like, well, that's because you hadn't met the 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: right bitches until now. 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: Exactly what are we here for if not to present 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 3: the hard party line about skid marks and disgusting bodily functions, the. 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: Hard line on skid marks, according to tern shred Darby. 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: So so you get it, but no one else, anybody. 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: Else get it. 32 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: Oh shit, might never recover, might never recover. She said, 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: the whole album name, y'all. Oh god, Well he's had 34 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: a trajectory that Terrence Trent Derby, but he came out 35 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: with a banger right off the bat. That whole album 36 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: is like top to bottom. I love it. 37 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's he's now going by something else. 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: He's uh, he's going by Sonanda Matreya. 39 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Wow, Sonanda Matreya. Well, I I was a huge fan 40 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: of his back in the day. 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: Uh, he was a smooth, smooth customer, all those smooth. 42 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: Songs completely and look, Sonanda explains if you want, if 43 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: you're looking to to look it up. Soananda explains that 44 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: he basically killed Terrence Trent Derby. Uh. He said he 45 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: watched his suffering as he died a noble death. After 46 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 3: intense pain, I meditated for a new spirit, a new will, 47 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: a new identity. I mean I would have just gone 48 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: down to the court and been like, I don't like 49 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: my name, can you change it? It's associated with some 50 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: shit I don't like. He went hoard yes snandas like 51 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: I had to kill that motherfucker that was. 52 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Kind of some print shit. Huh like when he was symbolized. 53 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow, that's crazy. 54 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: Who knew that in twenty twenty two we would be 55 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: spending this much time on the artist formerly known as 56 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: Darren Stritt on a non music podcast. 57 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: I know, we only talk about music on the bonus. 58 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: I feel like our hearts want to talk about music 59 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: on bonus episodes. 60 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: It's just where we go. It's where we end up 61 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: so much of the time. 62 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: Well, and it's funny because there's a We're gonna read 63 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: some emails today and there is a whole music music 64 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: themed letter that we got. 65 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: So I'm actually really excited to answer that one. 66 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: Do you want to dig into this, males. 67 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: Of course I do, Otherwise I'm just gonna keep talking 68 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: about dead eighties popstars. 69 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: Well, this is an eighties themed letter that we got. 70 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: So the title of it is called new Wave Alien Orgasms. 71 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: Oh my ladies. 72 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: First of all, I love you guys in the podcast 73 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: and have been listening since day one. I'm close in 74 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: age with you guys, so hearing about you guys growing 75 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: up makes me laugh because, though a bit older, I 76 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: was right there with you, which brings me to why 77 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: I'm writing you. When I was twenty one, I discovered 78 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: a little gem of a bizarre movie I would like 79 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: to get your take on. I was so obsessed with 80 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: this movie it took me two years to finally return 81 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: it to the video store. 82 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: Lol. Been there. The movie is called Liquid Sky from 83 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two. Have you seen it? Have you heard 84 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: of it? It's so weird. I figured you guys might have, 85 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: and if not, you might like to go there. Lol. 86 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: Anyway, I'd love to hear it someday enter one of 87 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: your double features. Can't imagine what the theme would be. 88 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: Signed your fellow jaded, middle aged Shelby. 89 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: Right on, Shelby, U. I have not seen this film. 90 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: I have heard of this film. I watched the trailer 91 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: in preparation for recording this episode, and just from watching 92 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: the trailer, I felt like I had traveled to an 93 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 3: interdimensional state that I was eager to return from. 94 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: Yes, it's been a really long time since I've seen it. 95 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: The only things that I really know about it was 96 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: is that a, it's like a no wave movie, right, 97 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: like it kind of was part of that whole like 98 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: no wave New York filmmaking scene, And that it also 99 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: isn't it like respond like art. Isn't it like the 100 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: basis for electro class or something like it's like what 101 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: the style of electroclash is based off of? 102 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: Is this movie's wild? Which to me, Listen, I'm not 103 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: an electroclash historian. 104 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 3: How dare you? I've heard you speak on electroclash it Oxford, those. 105 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: Were the old days. I don't do that anymore. 106 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: I actually do have a friend who was in an 107 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: electro clash band in this era, and if it all, 108 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: if we ever wanted to bring her on to give 109 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: us the tea on the electroclash era, we could definitely 110 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: have her because she's a fan of the pod. But 111 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: I feel like this movie was like really like visually 112 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: irresponsible for what electroclash was. But also to me, I didn't. 113 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: I think it just seemed so eighties to me, and 114 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: I just I guess I never thought electroclash came from 115 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: a movie. I just thought it came from fucking everybody 116 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: with jagged hair in the eighties and they all look 117 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: like gem in the Holograms. 118 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: I don't fucking know. 119 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: You're like, I thought Electroclash came from a barber who 120 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: was just sick of our shit. I was like, I'm 121 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: gonna fuck your shit up. How about some fucking asymmetrical 122 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: shit go out in these streets. Try to make that work? 123 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: And they did. 124 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 125 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: It's it's like, And to be honest, I feel like 126 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: this movie I would pick for a theme that we 127 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: haven't dropped yet, so I can't tell you what it is. 128 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: This would definitely come. 129 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: In handy for a theme that we haven't revealed yet. 130 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: But that's a good, a good pick. I'm so glad 131 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: that you didn't return it to the video store. 132 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to know. Was it worth a seven 133 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty nine dollars charge for the video store 134 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 3: when you finally did return it? Is Liquid Sky worth 135 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: the eight hundred bucks in lafies. 136 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: And we're talking about eighties dollars right. 137 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah? Oh yeah, Like inflation wise, that's like fifty 138 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: five hundred dollars to watch Liquid Sky for two years. 139 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, Shelby listen, thank you so much for 140 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: writing in. 141 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for the suggestion. 142 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: Now we have another title to add to the pod 143 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: and the theme someday. But we love when you guys 144 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: really are passionate about films, So thanks. 145 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and any movie that you feel like you gotta 146 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: see this, I'll at least give it a shot. If 147 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: someone's passionate about something, I'm like, I'll try it. I'll 148 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: watch it. 149 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no kidding. This is a and that's a 150 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: good one to watch too, just like a big like what's. 151 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 3: This I'm gonna watch it with my grandma and listen 152 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: to her yell at me. 153 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: I bet your grandma would hate dead shit. She'd be like, 154 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: what is this shit? What is this fucking makeup? 155 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: Like completely anything esoteric? And she's like, can I watch 156 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: anything else? Like literally anything else? Can I watch? C 157 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: span Like she just cannot handle a movie that's weird 158 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: for the sake of being weird. Oh god, I know, 159 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: I ain't having it. Yeah, speaking of no, this doesn't 160 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: that's not a good segue at all. Again. Bonus episode 161 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: keeping it real loose. Uh. The subject of this email 162 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: is episode seventy appreciation. Hello, Stellar humans. So I am 163 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: walking on a canal trail in my city listening to 164 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: the intro banter of episode seventy, and I literally had 165 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: to stop in my tracks, sit on a shady bench, 166 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: and express my gratitude and reverence to your badassness. I 167 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: am also a gen X lady in my forties, and 168 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: I swear ninety nine point five percent of the shit 169 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: you say every week resonates with me profoundly on every level. 170 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: This episode was especially poignant to me because I am 171 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 3: also a bigger lady. So everything you both said today 172 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: about self acceptance and learning not to give nary a 173 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: fuck was just the boost I needed today, of all days. 174 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 3: Sometimes the universe give you just what you need, precisely 175 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: when you need it the most, and that was the 176 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 3: two of you today. So thank you so much for 177 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: sharing your voices with the world. I suspect I am 178 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: not alone in this sentiment. Also a bonus that all 179 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,239 Speaker 3: of this self love shit happened during the Pride episode 180 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: you nailed the discussion of but I'm a cheerleader. Sending 181 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: much love and sincere appreciation your way, Elizabeth from Richmond, Virginia. 182 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: That is so sweet. 183 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: Thank you Elizabeth. Episode seventy, which is our two piece 184 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: swimsuit episode. We got not only so much feedback, but 185 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: so much great feedback. So thank you to both Elizabeth 186 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 3: and everyone else who wrote in and was just nice 187 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: enough to kind of stop and say, hey, thanks for 188 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 3: saying that. 189 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I got a lot of people reaching 190 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: out to me personally about it, which I thought was 191 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: really sweet. 192 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: You know what. 193 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Also, I'm gonna say this was somebody, So somebody like 194 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: left a comment on one on the Instagram post for 195 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: one of the one are the Instagram posts for the 196 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: episode that week, and was talking I sort of directly 197 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: about the the idea that I had mentioned that my 198 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: mom had taken me to weight watchers when I was 199 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: a kid, and uh, I think the comment was just 200 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: like a little kid in a diet place is like 201 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: equally parts infuriating and. 202 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: Sad or something. 203 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, I just like that comment made 204 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: me like really stop to think about kind of what 205 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: I said in that moment, because I mean, first of all, 206 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: that is about me, which is also very strange, Like 207 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: when you're reading comments, you're like, oh, that person is 208 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: talking about me, Like it's infuriating and sad, and it's 209 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: something that I I said. 210 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: So that was a moment where I just thought, okay, 211 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: and I felt. 212 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: And I felt like I just have come really full 213 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: circle about that, because when I was young, it went 214 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: from like, oh I was young and didn't know what, 215 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know better, I didn't know, Like then I 216 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: got pissed. Many many years where I was pissed, and 217 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: then many years where I was sad, And now I'm like, 218 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean, what. 219 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: What was my mom supposed to fucking do? I guess 220 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: she thought she was doing the right thing. 221 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: This was the eighties, This was when you know, people, 222 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: there was not a fucking sensitivity. 223 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: Sorry, there just really wasn't. 224 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, when it comes down to it, my mom is 225 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: a fucking Asian mom, ruthless, fucking ruthless. 226 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm picturing your sweet tiny mom in like 227 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: her Halloween costume next to your nephews, and you're like ruthless, 228 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: ruthless like you on me who could do both? She 229 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: will dress up with her grandkids and be ruthless for sure. 230 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna make a very huge generalization about 231 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: white moms. 232 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 3: I just damn. 233 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: Well, white moms know how to fucking wrap up the 234 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: package of bad news. They literally will fucking I mean, 235 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: some of them don't, like, let's get serious, but a 236 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: lot of them are like they got a bedside manner, 237 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: whereas everybody else in the world's moms, like all the 238 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: fucking POC people's. 239 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: Moms are straight up mean as shit. 240 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, my and still in always my grandmother. 241 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: The other day, my mom was here helping my grandma out. 242 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: My mom's sixty seven, now, you know, and she's put 243 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: on some pounds, and she was always like toothpick skinny 244 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: her whole life, but she started putting on wait a 245 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: long time ago. My grandmother eighty nine years old, dementia, 246 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: the whole nine. My mom bends down to tie her shoe, 247 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: and all my grandma can say is, ooh, Robin, look 248 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: at the size of your ass, Like this is someone 249 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: helping you get dressed and taking care of your shit, 250 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: and it never ends, like it will never fucking end 251 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: for her, Like that is just a ruthlessness that exists 252 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: in generations and in certain cultures and in certain swaths 253 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: of parenthood when you're not white. 254 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: And I take it my mom to task on this once, 255 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: I was like, why the fuck you gotta be so mean, Like, 256 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: what's up with this? 257 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: Like at one point, this was not that long ago, 258 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: I think it. 259 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: Was probably it was probably when I lived with them 260 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: during COVID, and I was like, damn, back in this place. 261 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: My mom was saying some blunt shit, just real blunt shit, 262 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, what's up with this? And her 263 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: fucking answer was you stopping so sensitive, like you get tough, 264 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: And that, I think is what it ultimately boils down to, 265 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: is that I feel like a lot of a lot 266 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: of women of color, a lot of immigrant women, a 267 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: lot of you know, sort of like non white Western 268 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: moms don't have it. It's a it's a toughness that 269 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: they've acquired over the years that they kind of pass 270 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: on through their communication style. 271 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: To their kids. 272 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I was because I just thought, why 273 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: is she still like these barbs? And she, to be honest, 274 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: she goes harder on my sister now than she does me, 275 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: uh because my sister has kids, and you know, she's 276 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: got a pinions about that shit. But it's that thing 277 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: where I was like, Dad, why the fuck you like 278 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: you really like cutting? Yeah, And she just kind of 279 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: explained it in a very simple way. She was just like, listen, 280 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: people were mean to me my entire life, and this 281 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: fucking country has been mean to me. And I've had 282 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: your family mean to me like my own family, and 283 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: so I'm like, I don't care. I just say what 284 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: I want. And she's like, it's not that I don't 285 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: care about you, it's just that this is how I 286 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: fucking expressed myself. 287 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, legit, because I don't know. 288 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: And I think that's an important distinction. Like, I think 289 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 3: that is a very important distinction. It's not like she 290 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: doesn't care about you, it's how she expresses herself. And 291 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: I think that that, to me, is why I'm I'm 292 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: really glad you brought it up, because to me, I've 293 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: never thought of your mom or your dad as anyone 294 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: who acted out of anything but love for you. And 295 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: so if you put it in the cultural time and 296 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: place and the emotional time and place for her and you, 297 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: it makes sense that she's like, look, I want you 298 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: to have a better life than me in every possible way, 299 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: and I don't want people to be If people were 300 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: mean to her, she probably didn't want people to be 301 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: mean to you for any reason, and so how she 302 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: expressed that might have been way tougher than you needed 303 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: or wanted to hear, But it doesn't mean that what 304 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: she did was out of It's not out of cruelty 305 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: that parents did this. For the most part, I think yes, 306 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: and you're not the only one, because we also got 307 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: a lot of comments from people who were like, yep, 308 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: me too. I was a twelve year old in the 309 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: weight watchers group, so it wasn't like this wasn't common. 310 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: And I think that in the effort to make progress, 311 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: sometimes people forget that we did the best we could 312 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 3: with the tools we had, and not everyone is going 313 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: to be able to course correct to like fit your 314 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: new narrative of like body positivity or childhood trauma and 315 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: like people have to catch up to that, and some 316 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 3: people won't. Some people won't, So you can't condemn other 317 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: people for not being able to catch up to what 318 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: is now the cultural ideal. 319 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean you got no one in the 320 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: world would have ever thought that I would have this 321 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: reaction now to this situation, you know, Like I in 322 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: that moment when I read that comment, I felt kind 323 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: of protective of my mom, and I'm like bitch. I 324 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: never thought that would happen. I thought it was gonna 325 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: stay mad about that forever. But now I've gotten to 326 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: the point where I've gotten older and I've lived enough 327 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: life and I've really like, I guess, I just have 328 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: this compassion for people that might have made a mistake 329 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: with the way that they handled something, and I just 330 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, and not to say that that person. 331 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: That person listened to a stranger say information and that 332 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: was their reaction, which I totally understand, But in that moment, 333 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: it was that thing where I was like, I was 334 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: reading the comments and I was like, oh damn, like, yeah, 335 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: that's me. 336 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: I guess we're talking about me. And then I don't know. 337 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 2: I don't think, I feel I don't. 338 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: Feel mad about it anymore so, and I don't want 339 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: people to think my mom was a bad person. 340 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: So that makes of course not of course, that makes 341 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: absolute sense. And I don't think anyone thinks your mom 342 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: is a bad person. And if they do, I will 343 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 3: fight them because she is lovely and she is smart 344 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: and tough and cool, and I will fight someone on 345 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: her behalf for any reason. If they cut her off 346 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: with a shopping cart. I'm going to Florida. I will 347 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: be there. But I do think that it is also 348 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 3: a mark of your continued evolution as a person that, 349 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: like you said, you moved through all of these phases 350 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 3: of emotion and some people haven't. So like, there's no 351 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: telling this is a commenter who could still be stuck 352 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: in anger yea, or this is a commenter who could 353 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: still be stuck in sadness, and you've moved into acceptance 354 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: and compassion and hopefully other people will get there too. 355 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: But I think it's really it was really brave for 356 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: you to discuss a lot of things you discussed in 357 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: that episode, and I think it's it makes sense to 358 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: me that you felt protective of your mom, because that's 359 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: who I know you to be right now. 360 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I thinks, and I feel like at the 361 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: I feel like, at the end of the day, this 362 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: episode was very personal for both of us. I think 363 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: that people were like, really, they were really caught in 364 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: what we were saying, and a lot of people set 365 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: me messages personally that were overwhelmed by the grief that 366 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: you expressed towards me, which I I mean, I can't 367 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: even talk about it and not leil start crying. But it 368 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: is like very touching to I mean, I listened back 369 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: to the episode too, and I was like, holy shit, 370 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: like we had a moment there, you know, and that 371 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: yeah in that French, that deep friendship way. And so 372 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: I think people like listening to it like really connected 373 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: with the entire thing, and I'm just happy that they did, 374 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: because I think it was for both of us very vulnerable. 375 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: It was a very vulnerable moment, and so we're just 376 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: happy that's everyone enjoyed it. 377 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 378 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm and again happy and proud of you 379 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 3: for saying it, for not cutting it, for being able 380 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: to read these messages and comments about yourself or about 381 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: your family, like that's never easy to do. And I 382 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: mean I wrote a whole fucking memoir and people would 383 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: comment shit and be like, wow, your mom's real piece 384 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: of shit. And I felt protective a little bit, like 385 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 3: you don't know the whole you know this part of 386 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: the story, and it wasn't my goal to make her 387 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 3: seem like a piece of shit, Like I actually tried 388 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: to approach my mom with a lot of grace in 389 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: my memoir. Yes, and most people get that, but again, 390 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 3: some people are stuck with their own families in that anger, 391 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: in that sadness. They haven't gotten to grace yet. So 392 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: I just have to kind of let those comments roll 393 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 3: off my back because it's like, that wasn't my intention, 394 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: And if you don't get it, it's okay. Maybe one 395 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: day you'll read it and you will. 396 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, totally, totally totally, But Elizabeth, I appreciate everything 397 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: you said, and I'm so glad that you wrote in 398 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: to us to express all of that. 399 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: It was very sweet, very sweet, thank you, And we're gonna, 400 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: I mean, we're gonna pivot hard with this next email. 401 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: Real hard. 402 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: Couldn't be even couldn't be the more opposite if we tried. 403 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: This is the This is the the audio equivalent of 404 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: someone's like ninety seven year old grandma getting up and 405 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: giving a heartfelt toasted a wedding and then they're drunk 406 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: best friend getting up and being like, let's do a 407 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: fucking shot. 408 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: Yes, this is the shots guy, for sure. There isn't 409 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: even like a prologue. It's just like it just jumps 410 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: right into it and then there's like an ending. The 411 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: name it's called, the name of the title of it 412 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: is fuck Mary Kill. 413 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: Nineties rock bands and it's from Abby. She says, thank 414 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: you for the incredible joy brought to my life from 415 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: a fellow aunt. 416 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: Abby. 417 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: She her pronouns, and here's here's her Round one. Are 418 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: you ready? 419 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: There are three rounds, three rounds, And I'm gonna preface 420 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 3: this by saying one of the beautiful things about nineties 421 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: rock bands is I didn't know what half of those 422 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 3: motherfuckers looked like. Yeah. I had to look up every 423 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 3: single one of these goddamn bands because I'm like, what 424 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 3: did they look like? Again? I don't remember? 425 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh my god, the round one is so fucking good. 426 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: I'm deeply torn. Okay, so Round one. 427 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: Is fuck Mary, kill Wilco, the Old ninety seven's, and Ween. 428 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: This is possibly the easiest round for me. Oh wow, 429 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: I'm marrying Ween because I want to have fun for 430 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: the rest of my fucking life. Okay, I'm fucking the 431 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: Old ninety seven and I'm killing Wilco. And I love 432 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 3: all of these bands. I love their music. I'm not 433 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: killing Wilko for the music. I'm killing Wilco because I 434 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 3: do not want to fuck or Mary Wilko. I envisioned 435 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 3: a Wilco fuck is like very like laden with alcohol 436 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: and tears on both sides. 437 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you would only fuck Wilco in 438 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: Nashville or something like. You're like, you're at a boutique 439 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: hotel or something in Nashville. 440 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: You're at the lobby bar of a boutique hotel, crying 441 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: into your fucking beers next to Wilco. And then you're like, yeah, this, 442 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: why not? This will round out the evening. 443 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is my tidy desk concert will Co. 444 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 445 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: And the marrying Ween, just because you marry someone doesn't 446 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: mean you have to fuck them. So the marriage for 447 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: me is it's very clear rules for me, and that 448 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: marriage is a relationship that you're gonna have with them 449 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 3: for probably ever. And I feel like I would I 450 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 3: would get into a fight with the old ninety sevens, 451 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: like a physical fight with the old ninety sevens at 452 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: one point, But Ween, I think I would just have 453 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: fun and they'd be like, you know, in their weird 454 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: little art cottage in the backyard, and I'd be doing 455 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: my knitting inside and be fun. 456 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So you say fuck old ninety sevens, Mary Ween, 457 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 2: kill you. 458 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: Okay. 459 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: Mine Mine is really hard because it's like I would 460 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: marry the old ninety sevens and I would kill Wilco 461 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: or Ween. 462 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 2: And I can't decide who is gonna die? 463 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: Ah, well, what is what is tripping you up? Between 464 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 3: the two? 465 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so the idea of fucking Ween is so. 466 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: Depraved that I'm you know, and really my working knowledge 467 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: of Ween, I have to admit I've never I've never 468 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: been like a I don't. 469 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: I never owned all of their albums. 470 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: But I had. 471 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: The guys that I knew that loved Ween are deeply. 472 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: Broken stone freaks, stone freek. 473 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: I always used to say, there was like all that. 474 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: There's like guys that there were bands in high school 475 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: were only guys loved them. And I know that's a 476 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: big generalization, but it was like all the guys that 477 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: I knew loved Ween, they loved Primus, they loved Faith 478 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: no more. It's like quirky art rock guys who loved 479 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: these bands, right. 480 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: Violent femmes. Not for nothing, girl. 481 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying I like two of those bands, 482 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 3: and I fucked one of those bands. That's why Ween 483 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: has made the merry list for me. That is not 484 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 3: a There is no questioning about that direct correlation. 485 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. See, And the problem is is that because I 486 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: would love to kill Wilco. 487 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I just would love it. Who did it 488 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: so satisfying to kill Wilco? 489 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: But that would. 490 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: Ultimately mean I'd have to fuck Ween, And I'm like, 491 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,239 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, So I don't really know. 492 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: I feel like, but. 493 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: You're so resolute on marrying the old ninety sevens. 494 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that to me, seems very clear. Okay, so 495 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: it's a little, it's a little. 496 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: I guess it would depend. 497 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: Right now, Let's just say, in this moment, in this 498 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: absolute moment, kill Ween, fuck Wilco. But that would change 499 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: in five minutes because I deeply want to murder Wilco. 500 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna propose I'm gonna propose an alt you could 501 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: fucking then kill Ween. Yes, who's stopping me? I'm just sure. 502 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm just pretty sure. I don't want to fuck Ween ever. 503 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, then kill him? Then kill him? You're killing? 504 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: Can I kill two? I killed both. 505 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: That's a great one, though, because it's a really it's 506 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: a thought experiment. 507 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and round two is also a thought experiment. These 508 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 3: are people who I absolutely forgot what they looked like, 509 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: so I looked them up. So round two is one 510 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 3: hit Wonders and we've got Ugly Kid Joe, the Nixon's 511 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 3: and Toady's. 512 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: Oh this is this is easier for me. 513 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: Okay, then you go first. 514 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: Okay I had to. I'm sorry, I'm having to google 515 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: the Nixes because I was like, what fucking songs they do? Right, sister, sister? 516 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: See you? 517 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: Oh that's the sun? 518 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: Oh shit a fuck? And also, is your decision based 519 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: on what they look like or what their music is? 520 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: I think it's a vibe. Okay. If it's a vibe, 521 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: it's a. 522 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: Vibe like it's it's it's very visual. But also the music, 523 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: I think it's more than music, because. 524 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: I then that makes it easier for me. 525 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just the whatever the vibe of 526 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: the band is, like like, imagine the band was a guy, 527 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: just like one guy or one girl that you know 528 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: was presented. 529 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: Okay, that's good, that's good to establish. Okay, I like this, 530 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: So am I going first with round two? Okay? 531 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're going first Round two? 532 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: Okay? I would fuck the ship out of the Toadies. 533 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 2: I think we know that. 534 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: No dablished. 535 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: Here's why. It's it's a lot about fucking like. 536 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: X. 537 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: It's a lot of like what do you call it, 538 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: like ex fundamentalist christian ship. You can't get better than 539 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: that when it comes to a big f right like 540 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: some fucking formally repressed like preacher shit. 541 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: Yes that you want to be having. 542 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that it would get weird, which I 543 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: think it would be great. 544 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 3: It would get weird, but not Ween weird. 545 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a different type weird. 546 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: That's really if I ever again have a dating profile, 547 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: it's going in like, let's get weird, but not ween weird. 548 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fucking shirt that we should make for 549 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: our Okay, so I'm fucking the todies clearly. I actually 550 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: would probably marry ugly kids show. 551 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: Okay, you marrying ugly kid Joe, Like, I'm already envisioning 552 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be at your house like with tissues while 553 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: you're crying and they're out at the skate ramp with 554 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: their fucking friends still ten pm and your kids are 555 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: crying in the crib and you're like, I just want 556 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: them to come home and fucking have some responsibility. 557 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is like you'd be married to 558 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: like the dude from Gleaming the Cube, like the friend 559 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: from Gleaming the Cube for sure. 560 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: Like just some like moron. 561 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: But I feel like, oh, okay, but what if like 562 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: that guy could grow up into like a standing, stand 563 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: up member of society and that would be fun like 564 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: an X skater. 565 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: Like yeah, he won't. He won't and you know it 566 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: because you know that dude, and he does not grow 567 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: up to be like a respectable member of society. 568 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: Oh I know. 569 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm just I am definitely having to reimagine the vibe here. 570 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: And I guess I just killed the Nixons because of 571 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 1: that song that I just remembered, which sucks. 572 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah we are. We are back to back on the Nixons. 573 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: I gotta kill him. If we're going with the vibe 574 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 3: of the music, the Nixon's gotta go. Gotta go, especially 575 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: in the world of one hit wonders. So in the 576 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: context of this, contextually, the one hit wonders that have 577 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 3: meant the most to me, or that I like the most, 578 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: Nixons are dead. I liked that song the least of 579 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 3: these three. 580 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely one percent. 581 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: I barely remembered it exactly and I had to look 582 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 3: him up, and I'm like, I was not happy to 583 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 3: revisit that particular one hit wonder so they gotta go. 584 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: Now here's where things get interesting. Oh my god, I'm 585 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: fucking I'm gonna fuck Ugly Kid Joe. Okay, purely for 586 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: the fun factor, like the song. The song is fun, 587 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: the vibe is fun. Yes, I do not want any 588 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: part of responsibility for my life being in their hands. 589 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So we just. 590 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: Go and fuck and then I will marry the Toadies 591 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: and deal with all of the sad Christian fundamentalists trauma, 592 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: because that is what marriage is for, is like, what's 593 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: your trauma, what's my trauma, Let's deal with it together. 594 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: You're that is a completely. 595 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: Valid argument, like right there, like the fucking because I 596 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: fuck the Toadies because I feel like their vibe to 597 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: me personally came came from like me just listening to 598 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: reber Neck every fucking day for like five years of. 599 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: You're already married to the Toties, that's the case. 600 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: But also I just felt it feels very like guttural, 601 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: and you know, so I just kind of imagined that. 602 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: But I see now why you would imagine that's marriage material, 603 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: because you're right, like marriages, everybody has to work on them. 604 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: On themselves in a marriage, right, so makes sense absolutely. 605 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 3: Now, round three is the meanest thing I've ever been asked. 606 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: It is mean as shit, but it also might be 607 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: the easiest for me. So lord, So round three. 608 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: Is britpop and you have to fuck, marry or kill Oasis, 609 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 1: Blur and Pulp. 610 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: This is actually pretty easy for me too. Okay, I'm 611 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: curious Mary Pulp, fuck Blur, kill Oasis. 612 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: Whoo, I just have a slight variation. 613 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 3: Paulp is one of my favorite bands. Yes, Blur Damon 614 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: Albarn has recently popped off with some weird shit, but 615 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 3: he is cute as hell. He was talking about how 616 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift didn't write her songs and he just got old. 617 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 3: He like turned into an old man overnight is what happened. 618 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, I just won't listen to this, 619 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 3: but Blur I like their music more. Oasis to me 620 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 3: is closing every restaurant, every cafe in the nineties, listening 621 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 3: to the fucking radio and Champagne Supernova comes on and 622 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 3: I'm at the end of a long day of work 623 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 3: and I've already fucking had it, and then these assholes 624 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: come on with their fucking oney voices and I'm like, 625 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 3: I can't, I can't, and they're fighting and they hate 626 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 3: being brothers and I'm like, just go away, go away. However, 627 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: having said that, No, Gallagher is hilarious. 628 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 2: Yeah to me. 629 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 3: So my. 630 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: Thing is I would fuck Pulp, Mary Blur kil Oasis 631 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, And I think it's because I think about 632 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: Pulp and I'm like, what's the long term potential on 633 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: sexy seventies like porno chic, crushed velvet suit love, Like, 634 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: what's the shelf life on that? I'm like, is that 635 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: like a fucking Is that a fuck? Is that a 636 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: one night stand? Or is that like long long term potential? 637 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what happens in when you're fifty seven 638 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: years old and you're still married to the sexy velvet 639 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: suit guy? 640 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, what happens is you have an open relationship and 641 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 3: you're fucking the guy who gardens, You're fucking your neighbor 642 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 3: who gardens at the same time that you garden, and 643 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 3: Jarvis is out on the road fucking like I don't know, 644 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 3: like seventy year old Greek fisher women, Like I don't know, 645 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 3: Like he's just out there living his life and doing 646 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 3: whatever he fucking wants and you're in an open relationship. Yes, 647 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 3: and that's it. 648 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why Blur seems more a stable 649 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: partner than than Pulp. 650 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 3: That is a very good question. 651 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they were wild. 652 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: They were wild. 653 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: But you know what, like I actually love I love 654 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: Blur like I love Pulp too. 655 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: I don't like Oasis as much, and obviously that's why 656 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: I want to kill them. 657 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 3: But I'm both killing. 658 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: I went, I went real hard in the paind for 659 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: BLURR for many many years. I like read the book, 660 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: like remember there was like a book about them, and 661 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: I just thought, okay, like bye and bye. I feel 662 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: like I can marry this band and not like I mean, 663 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: Pulp seems very much like a fuck band. Like how 664 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: many people have actually fucked Pulp songs? You know, it's 665 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: probably in the trillions. 666 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: Have you ever seen You've seen that the Pulp documentary. 667 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's like the stage show. This is their 668 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 3: last tour and Jarvis is like mid air fucking every song. Yeah, 669 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: he finds a reason to drop to the ground and 670 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: hump the ground every song. So like I appreciate your 671 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 3: your fuck vote for Pulp. 672 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I just it's so funny. My friend 673 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 2: just sent me a copy of his book Good Pop 674 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: or something Bad Pop. 675 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, at some point Jarvis is somewhat 676 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: of intellectual and like writes books and is into culture. 677 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: He's not a complete vapid club guy who would just 678 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: be a great fuck but you. 679 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: Know what I mean. But the Olays thing is very 680 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 2: clear to me. 681 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: The way I feel about Oasis, I don't like, I 682 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: just kind of like live with it, Like I'm just 683 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: sort of like it's kind of like, I don't know 684 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: how like it's kind of I don't even know how 685 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: to describe it, the feeling of just like you just 686 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: sort of like have uh, you know, I don't completely 687 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: hate Oasis, and I like, yeah, definitely like to at 688 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: least two of their albums. But I'm also like they 689 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: don't like move me in any way. Like I'm just 690 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: not riled up to either fuck or marry them, so 691 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: they must be killed. 692 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 3: And that's same same. And look, I'll also say, I 693 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 3: know Jarv is the front man, but Stephen Mackie's pretty 694 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 3: goddamn hot. Okay, okay, yep, pretty fucking hot. You got 695 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 3: some like like you have in Pulp. I can see 696 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: the fuck ability of pulp from a musical standpoint for you, 697 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 3: but also because it has the most milli archetypes like 698 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 3: the soccer dad, the weird art guy, and the like 699 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: technically genius musician. 700 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's very true. It's very true. 701 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 3: I see it. 702 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, we got another FMK kuman Asha. 703 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 3: And look, I'm thankful for you for including this one, 704 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 3: and I am very interested in your response, even though 705 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 3: this email is directed to me for a specific reason. 706 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 3: The subject of the email is FMK. Hey, ladies, I 707 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 3: suppose this is a fuck Mary kill for Danielle. Mostly. 708 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 3: I have never been able to shake you saying that 709 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 3: Matt Smith was your favorite doctor, since he is actually 710 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: my third from the last in my list of best 711 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 3: doctor who. I would do an FMK with actors who 712 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 3: have played the doctor, but there are just too many. 713 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 3: I decided Prince Philip would be better since you were 714 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 3: talking about the Crown when you mentioned it, and there 715 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 3: are three of them, So Matt Smith, Tobias Menzie's Jonathan Price. 716 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 3: This might seem easy for most people, but I have 717 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 3: been hot for Tobias Menzie since the HBO show Rome. 718 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 3: He played Brutus and a little full frontal, the cut 719 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 3: of his jaw, and that mischievous smirk he does please. 720 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 3: Plus I love his crooked little tooth. Sue me. Curious 721 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 3: what you ladies have to say? Keep being the best, 722 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 3: be Cagney, all. 723 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 2: Right, b yeah, you got skin in this game. You 724 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 2: got I. 725 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 3: Do have skin in this game. I do have skin 726 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 3: in this game. And this is a mean ask question 727 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 3: because you're putting my favorite doctor up against my least 728 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 3: favorite character slash person in the world, Prince Philip. This 729 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 3: is a toughie. Also, the age range, the spread here, 730 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 3: this is cruelty, wild of the highest regard. So I'm 731 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 3: gonna do my best. I'm gonna do my best here 732 00:40:48,080 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 3: and say, lord, fuck Matt Smith, married Tobias Menzies, kill 733 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 3: Jonathan Price. Actually cut that. I'm switching, all right, Haha, 734 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 3: don't cut that. 735 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 2: I want to show your work. 736 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 3: Show your work, all right, I'll show it. I'll show it. 737 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 3: I'm changing it up. I'm gonna fuck Matt Smith, I'm 738 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 3: gonna marry Jonathan Price, and I'm gonna kill Tobias Menzies 739 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 3: because I will not be pressured into liking someone that 740 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 3: I don't like. He's a great actor. He's probably a 741 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 3: fine human being, but I will not be pushed into 742 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 3: the cut of his jaw and his smirk. So I'm 743 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 3: gonna that's how I end up marrying Jonathan Price. 744 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 2: Look, I this is incredible information. 745 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 3: It will be used against me at some point. 746 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 2: I feel yes, well and like, honestly like, yes. 747 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 3: You. 748 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: I think have skin in this game more than I 749 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,479 Speaker 1: do because of the Doctor Who connection. I actually only 750 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: know Tobias Menzi's from the Crown, so I don't. 751 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 2: Know him from anything else. 752 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 3: Oh, he's a throat. He is a great actor, he 753 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 3: really is. 754 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 755 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 3: So having said that, but you know Jonathan Price, famed 756 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 3: actor Jonathan Price. 757 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 2: Well, of course. 758 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: But listen, the reason why this is my list Mary 759 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: Jonathan Price, because of fucking Jumpin' Jack Flash. That's the 760 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: only day, the only criteria, the only criteria. 761 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 3: A sentence that will never be uttered again. 762 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, who the fuck was it stoked as shit 763 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: when they got together at the end of Jumpin' Jack Flash. 764 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, first of all, I can't even conceive of. 765 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: A couple this fucking white hot. I'm like Jonathan Price 766 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 1: and Whoope Goldberg. I'm like, thatshit, rewired my goddamn brain. 767 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: I was like, love is possible, talk about the fuckond 768 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: interracial couple of the century, Jesus Christ. 769 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 3: Shit, So that. 770 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: Movie imprinted on me in a huge way. So I 771 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: would definitely marry Jonathan Price. 772 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 3: Makes sense. 773 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: Now, this is kind of bullshit, because again, I only 774 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: know Tobias Menzi's from The Crown. I would fuck Matt 775 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: Smith and kill Tobias Mensi's and that's just because I 776 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: don't know him well enough, and the only thing I 777 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: do know of him is that he played a dick. 778 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, exactly exactly. If we're going for 779 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 3: the Prince Philip angle, then these are my answers. Because 780 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 3: here's the thing. I don't want to fuck any doctor 781 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 3: who's like, I don't want to fuck anyone who's played 782 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 3: the doctor. That's not my connection to the show, right, 783 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 3: Like I came to the show as an adult, so 784 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to fuck the mythical fictional person. Right 785 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 3: Matt Smith is Prince Philip with his little fucking shorts 786 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 3: on Safar and is fucking rowing the boat and everything. 787 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 3: That guy I would fuck. 788 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Although I did see last night in soho did 789 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: you see that movie? I had yet well, he plays 790 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: a real piece of shit in that movie. And so 791 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: but he looked great. I mean is that kind of 792 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: thing where you're like, oh, he looks great. He looks 793 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: like he's in a one car y movie. But something's 794 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: wrong with this guy. And from that point I was like, man, 795 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: Matt Smith played played a bad guy in this movie. 796 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's kind of changed my opinion 797 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: of him a little bit. But you know, a good actor, 798 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 1: but tall and handsome and in the Safari clothes, in the. 799 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 3: Crown, and that's that's the only basis of the criteria 800 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: that that Now that b has put it in the 801 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 3: realm of Prince Philip, I'm standing by my answers. 802 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, good good that who. 803 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 3: Minus play this. 804 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 2: Game all day? 805 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 3: Same? These were brilliant and beautiful and rule and I 806 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 3: loved him. And please send us more. 807 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 2: Holy shit, guys, Yes, please send us more like this 808 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 2: is fun as hell and I could honestly do this 809 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 2: all day, no wonder this game has such an impact 810 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 2: on our culture, longevity, the longevity the years. 811 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 3: And thank you to Aaron of exactly Right for sending 812 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 3: in the question that sparked all of this. 813 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: Right, which was the Who was it? It was the Rock, 814 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: Vin Diesel and Jason. 815 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 2: I got a lot of ship. I got a lot 816 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 2: of ship for killing the Rock? 817 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, who gave you a ship for killing the Rock? 818 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 3: My mom? Oh, my mom was like, how dare you? 819 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: And I was like why because he isn't he like 820 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: is he like half Filipino or something? 821 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 3: Why are you? 822 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 2: Why do you have in this game? 823 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 3: What's the relationship between you and the Rock? And why 824 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 3: is it? How I have to find out about it? Mom? 825 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: I think she was just genuinely disturbed that I would 826 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: want to kill America's sweetheart, the Rock. 827 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 3: So look, we made our case and we stick by it. 828 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 3: You go listen to that episode if you want to 829 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 3: understand any any further understand our our decisions. 830 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely well listen. 831 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: Please please please send us more fmk's, send us your letters. 832 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 2: We are at. I saw what you did pod at 833 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 2: gmail dot com. 834 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 3: And please find us on our social media accounts. We 835 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 3: are at. I saw pod on Instagram and Twitter. 836 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, maybe we could get this to spill 837 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: over into our social somehow. I don't know. 838 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 1: That would be Would that be wild? Would that be crazy? 839 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 1: So many comments had explode. 840 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: That would be so fun if we could put some 841 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 3: fmks up in social medis. 842 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we also have merch It's at the exactly Right 843 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: shop at exactly Rightmedia dot com. 844 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get us going on a fuck 845 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 3: Mary Kill shirt and it's just me, me, me. 846 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: It's like, let's get what did you say, Let's get weird, 847 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: but let's not get ween weird. 848 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,720 Speaker 3: Is that? Yeah, let's get weird. Let's not get ween weird? 849 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah dude. 850 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 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We are in terms of the reviews. 854 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 3: I mean, look, we're up against like actual movie stars 855 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 3: who have podcasts now, so if you like what we do, 856 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 3: you gotta let people know. 857 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: Yes please, I mean god, it's like, yeah, there are 858 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: so many like extremely famous people that do film podcasts, 859 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: but also just podcasts, and it's like the it's really 860 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: hard to, you know, move up in the world in 861 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: the podcast world if you don't don't have reviews and 862 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: nice things. 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It's kind of chill 873 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 1: to be able to hear an episode a week early. 874 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice. It's nice, not just for our show, 875 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 3: but for all the shows I listened to. Yeah, I 876 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 3: kind of dig. 877 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's awesome. 878 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: Well, Danielle as always a fucking pleasure. 879 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 3: I mean, we've we've done the emotional rollercoaster that we 880 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 3: are known for, and I'm grateful for it. And I 881 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 3: just absolutely could do fucking Mary Kill for the rest 882 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 3: of the night. So just keep sending them me too. 883 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for listening. 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