1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in to the Clay Travis and 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I hope all of you are having 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: fantastic Thursdays wherever you may be across this great country 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: or this great land. Major League Baseball, Buck, did you 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: know this returns the Masters is underway for many people 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: all over the country. This is kind of the official 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: start of spring, especially you live in the Northeast. During 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: the Midwest, the weather is still a little bit shaky, 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: but you watch the azelias blooming down at the Masters. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, by the way, has officially teed off. He 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: is back fourteen months after a devastating car injury. We 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: will see exactly what ends up happening there. Did you 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: know either of those things were happening today? Buck? I 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: follow you on Twitter, Clay, so I do see a 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: lot of the sports commentary. So they are underway. So 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: that is for many people, major League Baseball and the 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Master's official start of spring. So hopefully the weather's gonna 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: get a little bit better wherever you are sooner rather 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: than later. But I saw this yesterday evening, Buck, and 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: I thought it perfectly epitomized what's going on in our 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: country today, especially as it pertains to this Hunter Biden 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: laptop situation. We're gonna talk about a lot. By the way, 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Katanji Brown Jackson, it appears will be officially confirmed while 25 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: we are on the air today, the Senate and the 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: House are about to go into a recess. Nancy Pelosi 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: has tested positive for COVID. Twitter people are still fired 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: up about Elon Musk. We've got continued fallout in Ukraine 29 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: and all of that that we will discuss. But I 30 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: want to start with this buck. We have seen this 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: week alone, a woman fired by New York City for 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: questioning why kids have to wear masks at the ages 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: of two to four, mother of three. Phenomenal question, way 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: better than most of the quote unquote professional journalists can ask. 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: And then I saw this yesterday. The University of Chicago 36 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: was having a symposium on disinformation in media. And I'm 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: not sure what this kid's name is, but he is 38 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: a student, I believe, at the University of Chicago, and 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: he stood up and asked a writer at The Atlantic 40 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: an apple bomb about the media cover up for Hunter 41 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: Biden's laptop. And if you haven't heard this. Props to 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: this college kid for asking a better question than you 43 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: almost ever see inside of the White House press corps. 44 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: Then you almost ever see in part of the press 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: corps anywhere. And then I want you to listen to 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: the dismissive and the arrogant response of this reporter and 47 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: apple bomb, because I think it perfectly epitomizes the era 48 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: that we're living in right now. Play cut. In twenty twenty, 49 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: you wrote, those who live outside the Fox News bubble 50 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: do not, of course need to learn any of the 51 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: stuff about Hunter Biden, referring to his laptop. Of course, 52 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: a pole later after that found that if voters knew 53 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: about the content of the laptop, sixteen percent of Joe 54 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: Biden voters would have acted differently. Now, of course, we 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: know a few weeks ago the New York Times confirmed 56 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: that the content is real. Do you think the media 57 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: acted inappropriately when they instantly dismissed Hunter Biden's laptop as 58 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation? And what can we learn from that and 59 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: ensuring that what we label is this information is truly 60 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: disinformation and not reality. My problem with Hunter Biden's laptop 61 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: is I think totally irrelevant. I mean it's not whether 62 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: it's disinformation or I mean, I don't think the Hunter 63 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: Biden's business relationships have anything to do with who should 64 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: be president of the United States, So I don't find 65 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: it to be interesting. I mean, that would be my 66 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: problem with that as a major news story. I don't 67 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: find it to be interesting. Oh that's interesting because everybody 68 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: else pretty much does Clay and and there's a there's 69 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: a few things that work here one and by the 70 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: she's like a Apple, Obama's a Russia collusion truther, and 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: there's you go Backer. She's one of these libs who 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: everything about Trump is awful and you know, worse than 73 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: worse than Hitler and everything else. But they would rather 74 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: if you're going to be invited to the vanity fair 75 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: cocktail parties, if you're somebody who is going to be 76 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: treated well by the editorial board of the New York Times, 77 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: it is better to sound stupid on these things than 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: it is to be truthful. They're making she's making a 79 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: conscious decision. That's a moronic statement, but it's actually better 80 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: for her brand to say I don't even think of 81 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden thing is a story than to admit 82 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: publicly we suppressed truth before an election, as the corporate 83 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: democratic line media to throw an election to a guy 84 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: who now wanders around and looks confused constantly and ancient, 85 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: and everybody knows it, and it's absurd. Better to pretend 86 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: to be dumb and look dumb than to actually admit 87 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: the truth. This is on a number of issues, by 88 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: the way. I mean this is this is why when 89 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: the White House gets asked about, you know, the transgender 90 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: swimmer in the NC doable a, they go, oh, you know, 91 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: we celebrate all. It's like, well, no, you you oppose 92 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: this or not. Better to go along with the narrative 93 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: than to speak the truth. There are five hundred thousand 94 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: people who follow this woman on Twitter, and there are 95 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: collections now of old tweets of her. So but she 96 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: said that she found the Hunter Biden laptop to be 97 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: totally irrelevant, and as you just said, in a really 98 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: dismissive and arrogant way, she said, I don't find it 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: to be interesting. Well, here's what she's tweeted about the 100 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: Trump children during the tenure of Donald Trump, an applebaumb 101 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: and getting tired of hearing about how corrupt Ukraine is. 102 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: You know which country is corrupt the United States. We 103 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: have a president who is using the White House to 104 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: make money, president presidential children who are using their father's 105 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: prestige to make money. That is talking about Donald Trump 106 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: and his family, which is the exact opposite of what 107 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: she said in response to that kid's questions. This is 108 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: why the president's son in law should be nowhere near 109 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: the White House. She said, in relation to meetings that 110 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: Jared Kushner had with other members of the international community, 111 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: what is this puff piece about Ivanka Trump doing on 112 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: the cover of this magazine with zero investigation of her 113 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: conflicts of interest the Atlantic? So those three things she 114 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: went after Ivanka Trump, She went after the Trump children 115 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: in general, and Jared Kushner in specificity. Yet she is 116 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: saying that the Hunter Biden laptop is totally irrelevant and 117 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't find it to be interesting. And I'll just 118 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: say this, what would her response have been if one 119 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: of the Trump suns had been on the laptop doing 120 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: everything that Hunter Biden has done, it would have been 121 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: a media feeding frenzy. It would have been the number 122 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: one story out there anywhere, and she would have been 123 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: covering it to the end. Degree. Now I don't know 124 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: this Anne apple bomb lady at all. I'm not trying 125 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: to to you're familiar, I don't know. Okay, So she is, 126 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: to me just emblematic of a larger cadre of journalists 127 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: that would all respond the same way. And if it 128 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: were totally irrelevant, by the way, why was the immediate 129 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: response This is Russian disinformation. If it's totally irrelevant, you 130 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: don't even need to worry about coming up with a 131 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: fake lie, which is what pretty much everybody said. And 132 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: then the standard is I don't find it to be interesting? 133 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: What her standard for what stories should be covered in 134 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: the political sphere. The kid points out sixteen percent of 135 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: Biden voters, according to at least one poll, did find 136 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: it to be extremely interesting and relevant to their vote. 137 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: That is the standard that should apply for journalism, if 138 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: it's actually journalism, not whether you're interested in it, but 139 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: whether the general public would be interested in it. They 140 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: threw an election, folks, I mean they actually the problem here, unfortunately, 141 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: is that they got what they wanted, and so now 142 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: everything else it becomes far less relevant. In the moment 143 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: that they had to lie to the American people, The 144 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: journalistic establishment in this country and many of the most 145 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: well known names from the former from the intelligence community 146 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: which I used to work in. Many of those names 147 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: debased themselves and their credibilities so that Joe Biden could 148 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: be president. And it's even more sad, of course, and 149 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: really more atrocious when you see what Joe Biden as 150 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: president has done. It'd be one thing if we had 151 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: gone through this remarkable year and he had crushed the virus, 152 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: the economy was just a rocket ship, and the border 153 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: was secure, and there wasn't a huge war in Europe 154 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: that could have been averted. It'd be one thing if 155 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: it had been a great year. But at this point, 156 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: these people lied to stop Donald Trump from being the 157 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: president for four more years to put in place a 158 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: catastrophic puppet of a president, which is what you have 159 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: with Joe Biden. And so unfortunately, and I've had to 160 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: tell people this about Russia collusion as well. The dishonesty 161 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: works at a certain level, right, I mean, we have 162 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: to talk about it, fight back against it, and at 163 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: least tell people what's true. But they got away with 164 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: this one, and really we have to focus on is 165 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: making sure they can never get away with this kind 166 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: of maneuver again. They talk about election integrity, if you 167 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: can effectively have all acting as one voice, people whose 168 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: jobs were told is to speak truth to power and 169 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: just the facts, and democracy dies in darkness and all 170 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: that other crap. And they can all as if they've 171 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: been given the same sheet of music, right, they can 172 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: all lie in the same tone, the same tune. Any 173 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: you know what's the point, right? I mean, you and 174 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: I can't be everywhere. I mean people can't be everywhere. 175 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: They have to rely on some level, on some level 176 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: for there to be a baseline foundation of truth and 177 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: honesty in our national news media, and it's it's just 178 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: not there. I mean, this is what everyone, I think 179 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: is recognizing there are no ethics whatsoever in modern American journalism. 180 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: When democrats see power at stake, none whatsoever, it's an 181 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: arrogant and it's a dismissive response. I do want to 182 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: give a lot of credit, and I want to find 183 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: out who the kid is so we can give him 184 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: credit by name. That's a fabulous question, buck, I mean, 185 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: it is a well researched question, it's a well asked question. 186 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: It is something that the vast majority of journalists in 187 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: their career won't ask a question that is that well written, 188 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: that well for as that well backed up, and that's significant. 189 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: So for a college kid to stand up in what 190 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: I presume to be a crowded auditorium and deliver that 191 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: question as well as he did, particularly Buck, because it 192 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: probably goes against whatever the mainstream ethos is on campus. 193 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: So he's asking a question which is not going to 194 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: be wildly popular, necessarily with his cohorts, with his classmates. 195 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: I think that kid deserves a tremendous amount of credit. 196 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to start the show with him, 197 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: because as long as there are people still willing to 198 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: ask questions like that in college, smart kids like that, 199 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: I feel better about the future of our ability to 200 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: hold and speak truth to power. On the Hunter, By 201 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: the way, he'll never get a job in journalism, right, 202 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, unless he goes to work at Fox or 203 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: maybe you know ass But you know what I'm saying, 204 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, just that alone, CNN won't hire you 205 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: after that. I mean, you know, when you go viral 206 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: or you have a moment like that where you ask 207 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: a real question. There are so many people inside these 208 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: institutions who are vicious and vindictive. Trust me, I was 209 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: an intern at cbsdaving news everybody I know of what 210 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: I speak. They were like, you are not welcome back 211 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: here after this, not because I did knew a good job, 212 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: but because they figured out what my beliefs were when 213 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: I was there. But McClay also, I think the laptop 214 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: issue and this is what this kid is exposing too. 215 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: We just see this replaying time and time again where 216 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: dishonesty is at the heart of the left wing argument. Dishonesty. 217 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: They say it's Russian disinformation. They say the Hunter Biden 218 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: laptop isn't really a story. They say it couldn't be verified. 219 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: They say they just verified it. Now lies and lies 220 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: and lies and more lies all the time, and they 221 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: would rather tell those lies consistently than ever have a 222 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: moment of truth and honesty with the American people. Because 223 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: they are activists. Their brand is actually not truth, it's 224 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: not fact. It's getting an outcome politically, culturally, and in 225 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: terms of power dynamics in this country. So this is 226 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: what this is what I have to remind everybody of. 227 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: None of the journalists who lit about one hundred Biden laptop, 228 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: none of the intelligence officials, some of whom I worked for, 229 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: and no fifty one of them feel badly about what 230 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: they did. They were successful in the deception, folks. So 231 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: you want to do something about this, We fight back. 232 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: We take the fight to them, We take away their 233 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: power in the midterms. I mean, because they'll just keep 234 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: doing it. They don't feel badly about it at all. 235 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: That's the one thing. 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I gotta say, I think that 269 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be fascinating to see how the media 270 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: um handles the growing revelations about the Biden when what 271 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: is being called Biden Inc. Others are calling the Biden 272 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: crime family, because you've got Hunter, who, obviously, I mean, 273 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: this is now beyond any doubt, was running around doing 274 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: the shadiest most corrupt influence peddling business deals possible, allegedly 275 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: not paying taxes on millions of dollars that came in. 276 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: He all right, I shouldn't even say allegedly he had 277 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: to pay a million dollars in back taxes. So clearly 278 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: he has not paid all of his taxes. That was clear. 279 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: Will will there be criminal reckoning for it? Clay and 280 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: I see the the likelihood of that slightly differently, But 281 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: there were certainly criminal activity that occurred. It's just a 282 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: question of how it has dealt with how it has 283 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: handled today. The main story on Fox News Biden inc. 284 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: Biden's sister to keep cashing in on brother's career with 285 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: new memoir Following family tradition. The Biden brother Joe, Biden's 286 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: brother is also now and who was doing business deals 287 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: with Hunter Biden. The whole family was setting up this 288 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: web of influence peddling and all these different ways to 289 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: just take money. I mean, Clay, if I was trying 290 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: to come up with a farcical, a parody version of 291 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: influence peddling having the sitting president's son do finger paintings 292 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: basically and sell them for fifty thousand dollars anonymously each, 293 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: that would be I used to say this about the 294 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation, I'd say, why not just pay Hillary a 295 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: million dollars for her to trace her hand on a 296 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: piece of paper, because that's basically what they're doing with 297 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: these speeches. That's exactly what Hunter Biden's doing right now. 298 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: You almost can't make the stuff up well. And this 299 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: is a really specific denial for Joe Biden, who by 300 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: and large has said, oh, I didn't know anything about 301 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's business interest. To have Jen Saki specifically saying 302 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: that the email that they were sharing office space where 303 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: Hunter is requesting new keys being made for her to 304 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: say that's not accurate, they weren't office mates is a 305 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: pretty specific level of denial. It's not even Joe Biden 306 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: denying it, it's Jen Saki meaning they had to have 307 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: a meeting where he said that report's not true, meaning 308 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: they're now diving into some of these details and can 309 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: ask you we didn't talk about this special counsel. Isn't 310 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: this why the special Council statute exists when you have 311 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: something like this where you cannot trust the executive branch 312 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: to do the due diligence on itself. I think so. 313 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: And there's a couple of other things that are standing 314 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: out here that I'll bring up when we come back 315 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: in this next segment. There's a front page article we 316 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: didn't talk about it in the Sunday New York Times 317 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: about out the Attorney General Merrick Garland. And also when 318 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: you're dodging these kind of these kind of taxes, there's 319 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: a significant fact here he didn't want people to know 320 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: that he was getting this money. We'll talk about it, 321 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: but in the meantime, we're trying to save you money. 322 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: We're trying to save you money with Pure Talk, relying 323 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: on them to take care of you with their excellent 324 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: cell phone service exact same as Verizon AT and T Mobile, 325 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: but for much cheaper. 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Do 336 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: it today. I welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 337 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: Appreciate everybody hanging out with us as we roll through 338 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: the Thursday edition of the program. We're just talking as 339 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: we went to break listening to Jensaki specifically deny that 340 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and Joe Biden were office mates, 341 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: which is a very specific rejection of a story that 342 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: is out there, which is based on Hunter Biden's own 343 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: emails he sent and Buck, I don't think we've necessarily 344 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: talked enough about the tax avoidance aspect of this Hunter 345 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: Biden's story, because everybody knows tax days not too far away, 346 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: and there are multiple different storylines that are out there 347 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: about why you could be charged with tax evasion. One 348 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: way you could be charged with tax evasion, for instance, 349 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: is if you have a different interpretation than the IRS 350 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: for what you might end up owing. What I believe 351 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden has done is buck. They need to have 352 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: a real investigation here because I think what's likely to 353 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: have happened with much of the money that Hunter Biden 354 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: didn't pay taxes on is he didn't want the IRS 355 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 1: to know he had made this money at all. And 356 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: that's a significant fact here because it would suggest that 357 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden may well have known that some of the 358 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: money he was getting was improper for him to be 359 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: a receiving. For instance, everybody out there, if you're an employee, 360 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: you get a tax return at the end of the janity, 361 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: by the end of January, letting you know how much 362 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: your employer paid in tax, how much you paid in tax. 363 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: You might get at ten ninety nine. There's a variety 364 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: of different forms that you're gonna get. Do we think 365 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: these Chinese and Ukrainian interests were reporting to the United 366 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: States IRS the money that they were sending to Hunter Biden. 367 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: Of course they probably were not, which means that what 368 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden was doing was not only avoiding paying taxes, 369 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: he was hoping the IRS would never know that he 370 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 1: got this money in the first place, because it might 371 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: have been illegal some of the money that he was getting. 372 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: And I don't think that gets talked about enough. Tax avoidance. 373 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: There's a variety of different reasons why you could have 374 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: a tax dispute with the IRS. This is among the 375 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: most significant. Oh. Absolutely, when you're talking about hiding income, 376 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: that tends to be that tends to be the thing 377 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: that gets the IRS's attention the most. Says we're all 378 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: heading in the tax day, And yes, I despise our 379 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: tax code. I think the IR a man is often 380 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: the whole thing is just a sham. It feels like, 381 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: I mean, oh, yeah, we're gonna sit down and go 382 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: through They can't even tell you remember Donald Rumsfeld, but 383 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: he was Secretary Defense actually for many years, not just 384 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: when he was Secretary Defense. He would always include a 385 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: letter in his taxes saying, look my accounts, and I tried. 386 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: You want me to sign and say that all this 387 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: is correct. I have no idea, like I'm hoping this 388 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: is correct, but I'm just letting you know that nobody 389 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: knows what's correct. The whole thing is absurd. The one 390 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: thing though, where they actually do kind of get you, 391 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: and it got you is when you're getting millions of 392 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: dollars and wire transfers to shell companies or LLCs or whatever, 393 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: and you hide that and you do that because, as 394 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: you said, you don't want people to know about it. Also, 395 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: you don't want to pay taxes on it. That's the 396 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: other part of it, right, And that's very very illegal. 397 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden had to borrow, apparently from a donor a 398 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: million dollars to pay back. And here's the part of 399 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: this where they're going to really circle the wagons, you know, 400 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: here's where the firewall clay really goes up. It'll be 401 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: on the issue of any connection. This goes to the office, 402 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: it goes to everything, every connection between Hunter and Joe, 403 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: they're very close, they talk all the time. This is 404 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: the president's son who's not running a side business. He's 405 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: not running a hotel business. He's running a Hey, i'll 406 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: get you access to my dad when it really matters business. Yes, 407 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: So this is where, all of a sudden, when you 408 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: start to pull all the pieces together, this is where 409 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: you find yourself and it's situation where you can say, 410 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: hold on a minute. This actually implicates as much as 411 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: an apple bob may say, this isn't an interesting story. 412 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: This has implications for the sitting president of the United 413 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: States in ways that all the investigations of Donald Trump 414 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: and his children never actually did. Nobody nobody was selling, 415 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: nobody was taking wire transfers from Chinese Communist Party connected 416 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: or Chinese Communist Party member. Businessmen play so that they 417 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: could give ten percent to the big guy. This is 418 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: just getting started. I'm telling you we're not done here 419 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: by a long shot. You raised an important question, the 420 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: idea of an independent council investigation into Hunter Biden. Sunday's 421 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: New York Times front page story third paragraph Buck, because 422 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: they try to say, oh, Merritt Garland is independent. Third 423 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: paragraph of the front page New York Times story, which 424 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: is focused on the headline is Garland faces growing pressure 425 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: as January sixth investigation widens. They're trying to put pressure 426 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: on him. Third paragraph Buck. The Attorney General's deliberative approach 427 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: has come to frustrate democratic allies of the White House 428 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: and at times President Biden himself. As recently as late 429 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: last year. Mister Biden confided to his inner circle he 430 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: believed former President Trump was a threat to democracy and 431 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: should be prosecuted, according to two people familiar with the comments, 432 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: and while the President has never communicated his frustrations directly 433 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: to Garland, he has said privately he wanted Garland to 434 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: act less like a ponderous judge and more like a 435 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: prosecutor who is willing to take decisive action over the 436 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: events of January sixth. Buck, that paragraph is an amazing 437 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: paragraph for the New York Times to write, because effectively, 438 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: what they're doing is putting what Joe Biden wants to 439 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: say to his attorney general directly to his attorney general, 440 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: who won Bill percent read this article without Joe Biden 441 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: having to say it himself. This is I read that 442 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: and my jaw dropped, because it is the New York 443 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: Times carrying water for the Biden White House to put 444 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: pressure on Garland while saying, oh, we've never had conversations 445 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: with them where we've said that. No, you got the 446 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: New York Times to write exactly what you think so 447 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: he would read it without you having to say it yourself. 448 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: And here's a reminder that it's a rule. Really Democrats 449 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: accused the other side of doing exactly what they themselves 450 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: either have done, are doing, or will do. They accused 451 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: Republicans of what's actually going on within their tent. This 452 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: happens on countless issues and Clay as we're watching this 453 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: play out right. Now, let's just remember that Donald Trump 454 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: having any kind of conversation with first of all, with 455 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: his Ukrainian counterpart Zelenski at the time. Remember that they 456 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: impeached him over that, speaking about the Hunter. There was 457 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden corruption. Obviously there were illegal things going on, clearly, 458 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: So sorry, there's not some special immunity. Now. You can 459 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: say that you think that's political hardball, and you may 460 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: or may not want a president to push the buttons 461 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: in that way, but there's nothing illegal about saying, hey, 462 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: there's something sketchy going on. You got to tell us 463 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: what's going on here. Have your prosecutor look into it. 464 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: That's one part of it. And the other part of 465 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: it is any conversations that Trump had with anyone within 466 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: the DOJ sphere having to do with Russia collusion, which 467 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: was all a lie, all that stuff they used that, 468 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: I mean that was in that Remember the ten counts 469 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: of possible obstruction of justice, that the Mueller probe came 470 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: out with nothing about Russia. By the way, I mean, 471 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: in terms of Russia collusion, ten counts of obstruction. Why 472 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: is it different for Democrat to say, yeah, you know, 473 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: Biden thinks that Merrick Garland should probably prosecute the former president. 474 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: It's crazy to the degree to which I read that 475 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and it just was such the New York 476 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: Times carrying water. By the way, I want to give credit. 477 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 1: We started off the show with a great question being 478 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: asked at the Disinformation Conference. Ironically enough, kid who asked 479 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: the question freshman at the University of Chicago. His name 480 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: is Daniel Schmidt. 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That's eight hundred 508 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: seven nine two three two six nine. Welcome back to 509 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck, so much more talking about today. Thanks 510 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: for rolling with us. I don't know why these are 511 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: still even considered news stories. I think that we should 512 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: be past the notion of anybody, any individual, having a 513 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: particularly if it's an asymptomatic or a very mild COVID case, 514 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: it's a story. But sure enough, Nancy Pelosi headline today, 515 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID. I don't know. Maybe she let 516 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: her guard down by not wearing a mask twenty four seven, 517 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: maybe two masks. Actually, maybe she should have gotten the 518 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: fifth shot already. Clay, I don't know. I mean, I'm 519 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: just you know, I take the virus seriously. I can't 520 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: speak to people like Pelosi who think that only four 521 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: shots is enough and only wearing double masks when the 522 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: cameras are around is somehow going to protect them. But 523 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: just so you all know, she's asymptomatic. So no one 524 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: thinks that this is going to be a big deal 525 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: for Nancy Pelosi. And unlike psychotic leftists who when Clay 526 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: and I get sick, tell us that they want bad 527 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: things to happen to us, we wish good health to 528 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: all of our fellow Americans and fellow human beings, regardless 529 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: of their politics. We wish COVID would go away entirely. 530 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: I also wish fout she would go away from public life, 531 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: step out of the limelight. Don't want to hear from 532 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: him in anymore. But that's not going to happen anytime soon. 533 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: And I think he's starting to feel the heat Clay 534 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: because he's getting more explicit about the politics of this. 535 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: It's being more it's more clear that he really is 536 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: a political weapon for the Democrat Party to get compliance 537 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: from people, but also to create this narrative of the 538 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: Democrats did it right because they were the maskers and 539 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: the lockdowners and not alone the whole time. Obviously Trump 540 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: did it in the beginning, but when we learn more 541 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: and the data came in, they decided that the data 542 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: was irrelevant and that we had to take the virus 543 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: seriously by locking playgrounds and you know, arresting paddle borders 544 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: on the ocean by themselves and all this stuff. And 545 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: here is Fauci straight up saying, you know he's gonna 546 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: blame Trump. I can't quantitate it for you about how 547 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: many less deaths you can't even model that, I don't think. 548 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: But there were certain things that were done that if 549 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: what they were done differently, we likely would have had. 550 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: For example, when we were trying to locked down. If 551 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: you use that word, that's a very charged word for 552 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: some people. Remember when we were trying to get the 553 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: fifteen day and then the thirty day extension during the 554 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Trump administration, and yet he was coming out right after 555 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: we came out and I said, with doctor Burkes, let's 556 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: do the fifteen thirty day. He would get up and say, 557 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, liberate Virginia, liberate Michigan, which was just completely 558 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: contrary and antithetical what we were trying to do. But 559 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: if we had really locked down, we probably wouldn't have 560 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: lost a lot of people early on. That's a total lie. 561 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: He's an abject clown, and people who believe him deserve 562 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: the misery and anxiety that they're going to live with 563 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: the rest of their lives because of the virus. Well, 564 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: what should happen in that interview is immediately follow up 565 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: with if we had really locked down, Okay, what do 566 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: you mean do you want Shanghai level lockdowns? Do you 567 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 1: want people unable to leave their house for any reason. 568 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: They can't walk their dog, if they step outside, they 569 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: get arrested. When you say if we had really locked down, 570 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: he needs to be pressed on exactly what he means 571 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: by that, because I do think he would have, if 572 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: he had been in charge, would have gone with a 573 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: Chinese level lockdown where no one is allowed to leave 574 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: their home and basically everything stops. And by the way, 575 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: we'd still be doing those I think today, just like 576 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: China's doing them. Because this thing was impossible to stop. 577 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Sooner or later, it's going to have to run its 578 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: course through the American public and the global public. Just 579 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: look at what happened in New Zealand and Australia, two 580 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: island nations that basically made the decision to lockdown everything 581 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: and then finally recognized, you know what, we're going to 582 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: have to at some point open back up our country. 583 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: We can't do this forever and cases immediately skyrocket. We'll 584 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: look at what the strategy was, the strategy of fifteen 585 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: days to slow the spread, the strategy of thirty days. 586 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: Remember what the extension, as Fauci just said, that was 587 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: about hospital capacity. So they offered this up. Now, this 588 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: is why Fauci and ever show up anywhere with somebody 589 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: who knows anything. Who's going to push him because all 590 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: the idiot lib journals go ooh, fouchi, he looks like 591 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: a grandpa and he seems nice, so let's listen to him. 592 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: He wears a lab code because they're morons. But it 593 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: was fifteen days to slow the spread so that hospitals 594 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: could get ready for then the end of the fifteen days, 595 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: and now it's basically the virus is going to be 596 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: pretty much ripping all over the place. And then they 597 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: extended it, and then they extended it, and then it 598 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: was this quasi mitigation lockdown status until the vaccines and 599 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: the vaccines would end it. And then we got the 600 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: vaccines and then we realized that doesn't end it either. 601 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: So they have been wrong all along, at every stage 602 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: of this, and their ideas, their strategy play doesn't even 603 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: make sense, which is why they had to keep changing. 604 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't even make sense anymore. But Faucci not notice 605 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: the cheap shot at Trump. Okay, why doesn't Foucci can 606 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: ask this question, and we've said it many times, how 607 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: is it that more people died of COVID under Joe Biden? 608 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: With a vaccine program in place, an actual distribution of 609 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: two hundred million plus people getting the vaccine than Donald 610 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: Trump with a more dangerous version of COVID initially circulating 611 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: and very little knowledge and no vaccine. There's not an 612 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: answer for that. And by the way, I agree with 613 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: you on every single person testing positive shouldn't still be 614 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: a story. It is worth mentioning Nancy Pelosi kissed Joe 615 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: Biden on the cheek yesterday. Did you see this? As 616 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: she was at the White House and she kissed Joe 617 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: Biden on the cheek. Now, Joe Biden is I think 618 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: on like his ninetieth booster shot at this point, like 619 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: that German guy that's obviously I triple digit booster clay. 620 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: You're just not taking it serious, not taking the buyers seriously. 621 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's begin to booster shot every day for the 622 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: last year. But it is worth mentioning that she kissed 623 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. And one of maybe a remarkable things so 624 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: far is everyone in the White House, but Joe Biden 625 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: seems to have tested positive for COVID post vaccination, So 626 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: maybe Biden is going to end up testing positive before 627 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: all is said and done. I also the fact that 628 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: these continue to be stories is ridiculous. Also, the immediate 629 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: statement of thanks to the fact that she is double 630 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: vaccinated and quadruple boosted or whatever they all say, she's 631 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: experiencing limited symptoms and feels fine. Now, most people who 632 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: get COVID, whether they have had the COVID shot or not, 633 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: have limited symptoms and feel fine. Particularly, I don't know 634 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: how many times Nancy Pelosi has had COVID By this point, 635 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: I think it to me when people do and all 636 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: these blue check libs who are terrified by the way 637 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: of the Elon phenomenon now, which is we should we'll 638 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: talk about. They're actively in panic about it because they 639 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: know that the good old days of crushing conservative thought 640 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: and speech and the digital realm may be coming to 641 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: an end. But I think if you're gonna do the 642 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: tweet that they all do, clay when they get sick 643 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: and they go, yes, I have a bad, bad, you know, 644 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: cold symptoms, and I feel I'm thirty five years old. 645 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: But I just want to say, if I hadn't gotten 646 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: the vaccine, this would be so much worse. They should 647 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: have to, like genuflect, bow down and pray to their God. 648 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: Fauci when they do that, like they should have to 649 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: make actual penance for not taking the virus seriously enough, 650 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: because it really is a religious observance for them at 651 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: this point. Well and Ali talked about this our producer 652 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: when she was talking to her New York City friends 653 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: and she said, Oh, one of my hosts got COVID 654 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: and he hasn't gotten the shot. They were like, Oh 655 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: my god, he's gonna be He's gonna be no twelve hours. 656 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: I was perfectly fine with the second dose of covid, 657 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: had alpha had homicron, feeling fine, and I'm sure Nancy 658 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: Pelosi is gonna be fine too. But it is worth 659 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: mentioning that she kissed Joe Biden, so that might end 660 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: up being an issue going forward unless Joe Biden's bionic 661 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: ability to avoid COVID continues. So much more, still rolling 662 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: your way, we got a couple of great guests for you, 663 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: will dive into the Russian mess and talk about this 664 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 1: situation in Missouri and more. It's claim Buck, Joe, thanks 665 00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: for hanging with us, Fleet Travis and Buck Sexton on 666 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: the front lines of truth.