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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Final hour

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Speaker 1: of the two of the Tuesday edition of the program

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Speaker 1: going on right now. We're going to go talk with

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Speaker 1: journalists Selena Zito, who did a great job covering Trump

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Speaker 1: in the Midwest. We'll talk to her at the bottom

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Speaker 1: half of this hour. We've been giving you the absolute

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Speaker 1: latest on everything that's taking place in the markets. Markets

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Speaker 1: have come back down, but they are still in the

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Speaker 1: green that as they are still positive for the day.

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Speaker 1: Trump versus China has accelerated, with the tariff on Chinese

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Speaker 1: goods going to over one hundred percent. I think it's

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Speaker 1: important for many of you out there to realize that

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Speaker 1: we're really not talking about one policy fits all. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be very different, but ultimately this trade battle

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Speaker 1: is really about the United States versus China. Yes, there's

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Speaker 1: going to be some tension with the European Union, Canada, Mexico, Australia, Japan,

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Speaker 1: whoever else you want to toss out there, but really

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Speaker 1: this is about the United States versus China. This is

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Speaker 1: the big battle to be fought. It's going to resolve

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Speaker 1: itself in the weeks and months ahead, but right now,

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Speaker 1: Trump is retaliating for China's retaliation to us. And I

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Speaker 1: guess the next question Buck, is will China retaliate again

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Speaker 1: or is this move by Trump to put one hundred

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Speaker 1: tariff on all Chinese goods going to actually provoke China

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Speaker 1: to say, Okay, let's sit down, let's talk about a

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Speaker 1: way to figure this out. So we will see exactly

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Speaker 1: how that pans out. Bridge Colby committed, confirmed, not committed.

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Speaker 1: We probably need to commit some Democrats, but not Bridge

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Speaker 1: Colby and so he is confirmed. And we have been

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Speaker 1: talking about the liberal judges and what they have been doing.

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court in back to back rulings has given Trump

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Speaker 1: the ability to continue to maintain his overall all executive authority.

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Speaker 1: Florida Gators get the win over the Houston Cougars. Both

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Speaker 1: Buck and I had the right champions in our brackets.

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Speaker 1: I managed to get a very narrow victory over Buck

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Speaker 1: based on being better in the Sweet sixteen. We both

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Speaker 1: had three fourths of the Final four and also one

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Speaker 1: half of the championship game. By the way, we're going

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Speaker 1: to be joined by doctor Art Laffer. We're trying to

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Speaker 1: get you a wide variety of perspectives on the trade dispute.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Laffer had a really interesting Wall Street Journal piece

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Speaker 1: that was up in yesterday's was up yesterday online. I

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Speaker 1: believe it's in today's newspaper about how to resolve the

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Speaker 1: trade disputes. One of the most brilliant economists in the

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Speaker 1: entire world, and so we will talk with him about

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Speaker 1: this tomorrow. Okay, something fun Buck, lots of chaos going on,

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Speaker 1: lots of craziness on a day to day basis. I

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Speaker 1: bet are strong opinions on this. There are reports this

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Speaker 1: was the Time magazine cover that we have brought back

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Speaker 1: a company has. I read all about this yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: was fascinated by it yesterday afternoon. The dire Wolf, which

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Speaker 1: is a bigger wolf than the traditional wolf, has been

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Speaker 1: thanks to using DNA code, A company is saying they

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Speaker 1: have brought the dire wolf back from extinction after ten

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Speaker 1: thousand years.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Many of you are going to be familiar with the

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Speaker 1: idea of the dire wolf because you watched Game of Thrones,

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Speaker 1: and the wolves in that Game of Thrones multi year

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Speaker 1: saga grew into gigantic killing machines from small puppies. So

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Speaker 1: I wanted to dive into this buck back in the

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Speaker 1: Day when you and I were young the book before

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Speaker 1: they made the movie Jurassic Part by Michael Crichton. The

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Speaker 1: entire concept is that they're able to take the DNA

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Speaker 1: of the dinosaurs from these if I remember correctly Mosquito's

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Speaker 1: Frozen and Amber, and that they are then able to

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Speaker 1: extract that DNA to create new dinosaurs. And obviously, the

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Speaker 1: Jurassic Park franchise in terms of movies has remained incredibly

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Speaker 1: durable and powerful for thirty some odd years because lots

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Speaker 1: of people remain fascinated by dinosaurs in general, lots of

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Speaker 1: little boys, although not lots of little girls too. I remember,

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Speaker 1: I think you said your nephew knows everything about dinosaurs.

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Speaker 1: When I was a little kid, I knew everything about dinosaurs.

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Speaker 1: There is a great deal of interest still, obviously in

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Speaker 1: the Jurassic universe.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and there are other species that could already be

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Speaker 2: brought back. I think, aren't they working on mastodons or.

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Speaker 1: The wooly mammoth? For sure made me the mastodon. The

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Speaker 1: wooly mammoth, I think is basically going to happen. In

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Speaker 1: the art that I read, they are going to bring

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Speaker 1: back the saber tooth tiger they are they're going to

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Speaker 1: bring back. So my question, I'm fascinated by what the

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Speaker 1: reaction of this audience too good or bad? And let

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Speaker 1: me give you a question to think about this book.

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Speaker 1: I was just out in Colorado over spring break, and

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Speaker 1: a major issue all over the West. They have reintroduced

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Speaker 1: ranchers are furious about this because suddenly what I was

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Speaker 1: told I was in Colorado, They're like, yeah, everybody in

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Speaker 1: Colorado are like thanks, jerks like we have no interest

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Speaker 1: had eradicated. My thought is, now these dire wolves, there

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Speaker 1: are three of them that they say they have brought back,

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Speaker 1: and one girl. Pop will they like in Jurassic Park

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Speaker 1: eventually find their way out and then they're suddenly circulating

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Speaker 1: in the community. They say that the dire wolf basically

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Speaker 1: from Canada all the way down into South America. They

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Speaker 1: basically roamed free. They were wiped out about ten thousand

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Speaker 1: years ago. What is your take on the idea, not

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Speaker 1: only of the dire wolf, saber too, tiger, wooly mammoth

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Speaker 1: being bringing back extinct animals good or bad move?

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Speaker 2: What's your take? Well, I love the book Jurassic Park,

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Speaker 2: as all of you know, and so I find this

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Speaker 2: a fascinating entry into the scientific annals that is going

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Speaker 2: on right now. I think that, man, the truth is

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Speaker 2: this the same way that you know. I've never been

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Speaker 2: to I've never been to Africa, but I love knowing

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Speaker 2: that there's all these incredible I'm sorry, I have been

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Speaker 2: to Africa. That's not true, but I've never been on

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Speaker 2: safari in Africa, but that I've been to places where

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Speaker 2: there are no safaris. They've been in some rough parts

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Speaker 2: but I love knowing that there are lions and hippopotami

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Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Uh So, I think that it's

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Speaker 2: tough for us to separate out the concept of it.

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Speaker 2: This is why when you brought up the ranchers, I

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Speaker 2: think that's very afro Po the concept of it versus

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Speaker 2: the reality of it. You know, a saber to tiger

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Speaker 2: then you're pretty it. This actually came up if you

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Speaker 2: you remember when this. I think it was Cecil the

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Speaker 1: And Jimmy Kim they killed him, yes, and it was

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Speaker 1: like him was like crying on TV about Cecil the

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Speaker 1: Lion in Africa who on a lawful hunt was shot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Sencil the light is crying. And look,

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Speaker 1: I love animals, so I get that. And there's something

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Speaker 1: that's you know, like I love my little dog Ginger

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Speaker 2: Like I understand some of this stuff. We get a little.

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Speaker 2: It's about sentimentality over pure logic. Okay, But that all said,

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Speaker 2: there was a really interesting Wall Street Journal article that

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Speaker 2: you know what lions mean in my village? Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: read people get eaten. Yeah, like this isn't a game

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Speaker 2: to us, like we actually have to control the population

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Speaker 2: real people, which reminds me of that movie Ghost in

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Speaker 2: the Darkness, based on a true story. And I know

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Speaker 2: and I'm in a museum in Chicago. Wasn't Val Kilmer

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Speaker 2: good in it. And that's based on a true story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these.

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Speaker 2: Lions became habituated to eating people and they're like, wow,

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Speaker 2: people are slow and kind of weak, Like, let's just

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Speaker 2: eat them instead. So this is all a way to say,

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Speaker 2: I think, for you know, should we bring back dodo birds? Yeah, totally,

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Speaker 3: But you know.

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Speaker 1: This is where you also get into clay. I'm here

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Speaker 1: in South Florida and you have the boa constrictors and

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Speaker 1: look like little dragons onas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and they are invasive. Well, boas are definitely

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Speaker 2: an invasive species. I think iguanas are two. I don't

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Speaker 2: think they're native to hear. They're basically pets that have

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Speaker 2: They're mean, they're mean little birds.

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Speaker 1: The honeybee is an invasive species. Well, but we like honeybees.

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Speaker 1: This is guess the point, right, We like that. People

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Speaker 1: don't realize this. North America until colonization, had no honeybees anywhere,

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Speaker 2: Some of you will remember this too. There was a

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Speaker 2: fear about fire ants and how they're going to keep

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Speaker 2: of their ant hills. And there was a briefly discussed

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Speaker 2: natural predators for the fire ants. They were thinking, maybe

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Speaker 2: what's its natural predator? Rguars? So you create all these problems,

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Speaker 1: Gets dangerous, Okay, So I am in favor of this

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Speaker 1: here is my thing as a pet, yes or no?

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Speaker 1: of it only for keeping them in captivity. And I

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Speaker 1: understand some of you are going to say, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the whole point of Jurassic Park. But I like it

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Speaker 1: also for endangered species now because in theory, it would

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Speaker 1: mean there should be no animal that actually vanishes. Right,

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Speaker 1: you should be able to get the existing DNA of

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Speaker 1: all animals that are alive on Earth today, and we

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Speaker 1: should be able to create a genetic Noah's Arc of

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Speaker 1: all living animals here today and be able to create them. Now,

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Speaker 2: face bears. They're very scary. They're very large, and I've

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Speaker 2: I sent him a photo of what the short face

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Speaker 1: Selena. One of the real challenges, and we played a

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Speaker 1: Is this anything that one president can do? Or do

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Speaker 1: we have to string together a lot of presidents that

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Speaker 1: see this as an issue in order to reverse what's

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Speaker 1: happened to I'm.

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Speaker 3: So glad you asked that. Last week I reported out

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Speaker 3: a story there was the tallest coal stack smokestack in

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Speaker 3: the country was blasted and fell. It is very traumatic,

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Speaker 3: goes very sad or coal fired power plant ten days later,

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Speaker 3: because this site is shovel ready. They announced they are starting.

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Speaker 3: They've already started to turn this plant into a natural

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Speaker 3: gas plant to facilitate not just the electricity in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 3: Maryland and parts of New York. It's going to be

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Speaker 3: the largest electric power plant in the country. It is

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Speaker 3: also going to power a data center, an AI data center.

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Speaker 3: There are going to be ten thousand new jobs. That's

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Speaker 3: and and it is a ten billion dollar investment. And

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Speaker 3: that's not even before the AI data center is built.

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Speaker 3: You know, Bergmann was there, he was I was at

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Speaker 3: a racking site, a racking well, and he said, look,

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Speaker 3: our job right now is to build, build, build, It's

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Speaker 3: more than drill, drill, drill, because we this is like

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Speaker 3: the arms race. AI is like the arms race, and

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Speaker 3: we have to win in this country. And he pointed

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Speaker 3: to the fact that there are places like that coal

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Speaker 3: fired power plant and Homer City all over the industrial

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Speaker 3: Midwest that are ready and capable to be built. So

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Speaker 3: I think that is where the new construction, the new jobs.

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Speaker 3: And these aren't just working class jobs. These aren't just welders,

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Speaker 3: These aren't just artisans that work with their hands. There

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Speaker 3: are geologists there, chemists, engineers, men and women with degrees

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Speaker 3: in AI and technology. So it is a broad reconstruction

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Speaker 3: of how the American economy and how the American worker

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Speaker 3: approaches the next generation.

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating, Slena. You know, you're giving us this other

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Speaker 2: perspective than what you'd get if you were to flip

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Speaker 2: on CNBC. It's the sky is falling. And yet if

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Speaker 2: you go into some of these places like you have,

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Speaker 2: where people have seen what happens with the offshoring of

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Speaker 2: American jobs and de industrialization of certain industries, that they're

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Speaker 2: they're excited about the future. I just wonder, you know what,

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Speaker 2: what you think there the the hopes are and the

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Speaker 2: plans are in these areas. If Trump is able to

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Speaker 2: continue on this path, what does that start to look like?

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Speaker 2: What towns are affected? What what industries do you think

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Speaker 2: can boom?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: Energy is at the top of the list, but also

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Speaker 3: artificial intelligence, Right, those are the two big booms. If

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Speaker 3: energy is going well, then that means farming is going well,

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Speaker 3: because you know, energy and farming go really hand in

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Speaker 3: hand together. And and I think one of the big

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Speaker 3: things as part of these tariffs is to to give

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Speaker 3: a boost to our American farmer and Rancher. So those

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Speaker 3: are industries you see right then and there, and then

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Speaker 3: we can talk about our universities. Right, our universities will

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Speaker 3: will will have a bit of a around and what

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Speaker 3: You send your kid off for French literature, you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe they go to school for things that are going

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Speaker 3: to recreate these communities. The footprint is already there in

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Speaker 3: places like Indiana, Pennsylvania, or or West Mifflin Miffland, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 3: or Claysville, Pennsylvania, and all across and not just in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: It's in Ohio, it's in Michigan, it's in Wisconsin. Uh,

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Speaker 3: these these places are already there, and these universities already

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Speaker 3: have sort of the grain to begin these kinds of

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Speaker 3: of of new new degrees that young people can go for.

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Speaker 3: But also the trades like you guys, I'm sure you've

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Speaker 3: talked or listen to Mike Row, you know, the trades

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Speaker 3: are also where we are going to see a growth

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Speaker 3: and jobs that create real prosperity, where people can live

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Speaker 3: in the same hometown that their parents grew up in

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Speaker 3: if they want to, right, and that generational investment in

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Speaker 3: a community that's worth more than money in a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Ways, Selena, how optimistic are you? You know, we hear

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Speaker 1: a lot of hey, everything is burning down, the world's

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Speaker 1: on fire. Based on what you have seen in the

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Speaker 1: reporting that you have done, how would you accept your

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Speaker 1: overall optimism.

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Speaker 3: I think the optimism is great. It's you know, I

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Speaker 3: straddle two different, very different worlds. When I step on

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Speaker 3: social media, I see a very different attitude in the

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Speaker 3: world than what I see and feeling here out here

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the country. And it's always remarkable

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Speaker 3: to me. And it's sort of like when I said

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Speaker 3: to President Trump in twenty sixteen when I was covering him,

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Speaker 3: I said, you know, voters take you seriously, but they

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Speaker 3: don't take you literally. And my profession takes everything you

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Speaker 3: say literally and not so seriously. And and it's still it's

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Speaker 3: that same sort of dichotomy, right, It's it's it's very

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Speaker 3: different in the middle of the country, and in particular

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Speaker 3: among young people. You know, you see all these protests

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Speaker 3: out there, and they got a lot of play on

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Speaker 3: social media and the national news. However, I would argue

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Speaker 3: American politics is all about addition. If you go to

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Speaker 3: any of these rallies. Try to find someone that's changed

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Speaker 3: their mind, you likely can't because they're they're the same

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Speaker 3: people that voted for who lost last November. So they're

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Speaker 3: not adding anything new. And I think that's the challenge

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Speaker 3: right now for anything that is against what the what

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Speaker 3: President Trump and the Republicans are trying to accomplish. I

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Speaker 3: was four feet away from President Trump and Butler in

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Speaker 3: July thirteenth of last year. In fact, I have a

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Speaker 3: book coming out about it. But one thing I can

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Speaker 3: tell you, in the day after I talked to him,

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Speaker 3: In the days after I talked to him, he had

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Speaker 3: this fundamental understanding that there was a reason that he

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Speaker 3: did not die that day because so many there's so

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Speaker 3: many reasons why he shouldn't have survived what happened. But

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Speaker 3: because of that, he will be forever changed and feels

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Speaker 3: this urgency to do something because he was given that

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Speaker 3: moment to be saved.

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Speaker 2: Selena Zido, Yeah, great, great work. As always, thanks for

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Speaker 2: your piece to Washing Post and everything you do to

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Speaker 2: cover this and up at clayanbuck dot com. Guys, we've

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Speaker 2: got her op ed linked there if you just want

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Speaker 2: to go and grab it quickly. We give it a read.

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Speaker 2: You absolutely should, Selena, thank you so much. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you again soon.

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Speaker 3: Oh sounds great. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Guys, does great work, and we'll have some fun. A

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Speaker 2: for the day today and tomorrow is gonna be my

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Speaker 2: last day before baby day is planned. At least it

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Speaker 2: could happen tonight, guys, So Clay, maybe you know, let's

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Speaker 2: I mean, that'd be fine. We're close to the hospital,

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Speaker 2: so and we've got our go bags ready to go.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I will add Clay that Carrie thinks

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Speaker 2: she did not know that I was planning to bring

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Speaker 2: a camping sleeping path to That is an aggressive move,

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Speaker 2: and she thinks it's aggressive, but she says, maybe not insane,

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Speaker 2: So I'll take that, you know, she says, weird. You're

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Speaker 2: definitely weird, but maybe that will actually work out for you.

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Speaker 2: Shall We shall see.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I'm very particular about about sleeping now. I remember when

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Speaker 2: I was, you know, twenty something, I could fall asleep wherever.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even really need a pillow. I'd wake up

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Speaker 2: feeling like a million bucks. Like it was all so easy, right,

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Speaker 2: And now I'm like, oh, my gosh, is the temperature

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Speaker 2: not sixty eight degrees in here?

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of anybody bringing an air mattress to

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Speaker 1: a hospital.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not thinking big air mattress. This is

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Speaker 2: just like a little folding thing you take camping, right

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Speaker 2: like it's it collapses down so that it's like the size.

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Speaker 1: You have to break it in to inflate it. No,

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Speaker 1: I blow in it with my mouth like a flute. Yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's even Weirder's gonna be sitting over at the corner.

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Speaker 1: This would be sitting over in the corner of the

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Speaker 1: room while your wife's going to the labor just blowing it,

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Speaker 1: blowing into an air mattress.

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Speaker 2: Let's go with JJ on the talkback here Punta Gorda,

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Speaker 2: Florida podcast listening or Nick Let's let's let's hear it.

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Speaker 4: Hey Klay, Travis Buck cuts and this is Nick down

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Speaker 4: to Poona Gorda, Florida. I just wanted to give Bucks

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Speaker 4: some advice. I just had the birth of my newborn

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Speaker 4: baby boy about a month ago. Best advice I can

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Speaker 4: give you after delivery is and during deliveries, document everything

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Speaker 4: right down, every medication, sleep times, wake ups, diaper changes everything,

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Speaker 4: and the amount of food and track it. It'll help

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Speaker 4: the nurses out tremendously and the doctors.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard this. I'm not saying that JJ's wrong,

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Speaker 1: by the way, roll a lot of these talkbacks over.

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Speaker 1: I'm just picturing Carrie working as hard as she can

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Speaker 1: to deliver the baby, breathing heavily, and she looks over

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Speaker 1: at you and you're just there laboring to blow up

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Speaker 1: a mattress beside her. This has unbelievable, unbelievably ridiculous opportunity here.

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Speaker 1: By the way, well, I said, roll these over, but

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Speaker 1: let's listen to Jessica. She's got a great take.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Clay and Buck, this is Jessica.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you that Clay is exactly right.

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Speaker 5: If you have a white beard and you're an old dude,

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Speaker 5: much more trustworthy than an old dude with a died

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Speaker 1: Maybe it hasn't turned.

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Speaker 4: Gray or weight yet.

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Speaker 5: Those guys remind me of a bunch of creepers, and

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Speaker 5: like Neil Diamond in the seventies with.

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Speaker 4: His chest hair all hanging out and everything.

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Speaker 5: One of those.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Jessica's right. Visual, Yeah,