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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're listening to In the Vets Office with doctor

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Speaker 1: Josie Horchak.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to in the Vets Office.

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Speaker 3: I am your host, doctor Josie, and as always, we

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Speaker 3: have the lovely Shannon.

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Speaker 2: Here is her co host.

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Speaker 4: Hello. How are you? I'm great?

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Speaker 2: How are you? I'm good.

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Speaker 5: How's the Vets Office been lately? Any exciting things going on?

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Speaker 2: Or yeah?

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Speaker 3: Actually this week I had a great case. I had

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Speaker 3: a lady come in just to kind of paint the picture.

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Speaker 3: She's probably seventy years old, like an older woman, very Southern,

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Speaker 3: thick Southern accent. You can tell she's definitely like smoked

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Speaker 3: cigarette or two in her.

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Speaker 2: Day, yep.

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Speaker 3: And I walk in and she's like, doctor Josie, I

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Speaker 3: need you to give my dog a Mamma Graham. And

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh no, Mamma Graham. I was like, ma'am,

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. We don't do those here. And she

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Speaker 3: starts busting out laughing. She's like, I know, I know,

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Speaker 3: but I do need you to do a titty check.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, all right. I'm like, I love

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Speaker 3: my job. I love my job. I'm like, what do

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Speaker 3: you mean by a titty check? She's like, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: they're swollen, they're bigger. Just something's going on. And we

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Speaker 3: know what's going on, girl o lord and her dog

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Speaker 3: was only ten months old, so I'm thinking maybe she's

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Speaker 3: about to go into her first heat cycle, right, and

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Speaker 3: so you know, I do my thing, get on the ground,

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Speaker 3: do a full exam, and lo and behold, her breast

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Speaker 3: tissue is extremely engorgedus like, very very thick. It is

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Speaker 3: not just her going into a heat cycle. And I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you know what, can I borrow her for one second

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Speaker 3: and come back in And she's.

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Speaker 2: Like absolutely, I want to do a titty check.

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Speaker 3: I want to do a titty check. And we take

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Speaker 3: her back to the treatment area. I stick an ultrasound

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Speaker 3: probe on her belly and there are eight heart beats.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, she's very pregnant. She is very pregnant. I

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Speaker 3: any chance she's been in contact knowing full and well

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Speaker 3: she has, has she been in contact with an intact

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Speaker 3: to me out? And she says no, well yes, actually

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Speaker 3: you know her brother who's also ten months her litter mate,

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Speaker 3: and he's not neutered yet. And I was like, wow, Oh,

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Speaker 3: she's pregnant with her brother's puppies. And it really made

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Speaker 3: me think. You know a lot of owners and it's

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Speaker 3: no fault of their own. Don't realize that once they

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Speaker 3: and yeah, you don't think about it when.

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Speaker 2: They're with their brother.

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Speaker 4: You think they're like they're like you.

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Speaker 2: Know humans, You're like, oh, they're with their the siblings, they're.

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Speaker 3: Fine, right exactly. But the case, no, mother nature took over. No,

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Speaker 3: and the titty check ended up being a pregnancy check,

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Speaker 3: and she is gonna have puppies.

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Speaker 4: We'll see. What was this.

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Speaker 5: Woman's reaction when you were like, you're about to have

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Speaker 2: Oh, her jaw was on the floor, hands on the bench.

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Speaker 2: She was like, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm so sorry, Like, please do not

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Speaker 5: So wait, does she have the puppies though, Like, does

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Speaker 5: she have more than one?

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Speaker 3: She has just the brother and sister from the same litter. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so she bought brother and sister. Yep, Okay, yep, you

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Speaker 2: Yet two for ten special. She got the two for

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Speaker 5: Exactly buy two puppies and you get eight exactly one

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Speaker 2: Never a dull moment, y'all, Never a dull moment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like something you just don't think about. Like

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Speaker 5: we bought German shepherd puppies my mom did when we

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Speaker 5: that was our case of the week. All right, on

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Speaker 5: to some listener questions.

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Speaker 4: Hello, well, my dog loves to swim all the time

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Speaker 4: and he just keeps getting air infections.

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Speaker 2: This is a great question.

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Speaker 3: We see this all the time in the summer, and

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Speaker 3: floppy ears. Yeah, they'll get moisture trapped inside their ear

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Speaker 3: ear infections. And so what I tell owners is you

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Speaker 3: want to buy an ear cleaner. All ear cleaners are

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Speaker 3: not made equal. Definitely get the medicated one from your veterinarian,

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Speaker 3: the ones on Amazon and Chewy. There are some crazy

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Speaker 3: ear cleaners out there that probably won't do much of

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Speaker 3: anything or can make things worse. Right, and then I

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Speaker 3: recommend every single time without fail, after they go swimming

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Speaker 3: they hear that because they're like, wait, we don't want

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Speaker 3: But there's different drying ingredients like salicylic acid and ingredients

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Speaker 3: really important if your dog loves to swim clean their

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Speaker 5: I did not know that because we are dog coas.

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Speaker 5: She's always in the pond whenever she gets a chance,

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Speaker 5: and she definitely she doesn't have like the big floppy ears,

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Speaker 5: you should be actually rinsing them out technically after they swim, yes,

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Speaker 5: every single time. Interesting and don't buy, like kids, your

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Speaker 3: Now your plugs, No, your plugs. And people are always saying, well,

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Speaker 3: how do I clean their ears? And there's really no

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Speaker 3: you see it pooling.

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Speaker 2: There's really two separate parts to their ear.

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Speaker 3: It takes like a hard ninety degree turn way deep

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Speaker 5: And I mean, yeah, you'd think like you wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: Hey, doctor Josie. So I just got a new puppy.

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Speaker 4: He's really energetic. I love running and I really want

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Speaker 3: Puppy owners Love to ask this question, and I think

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Speaker 3: we get like maybe a little scared because you read

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Speaker 3: Now, if you're like a marathon runner, and yeah, clock

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Speaker 3: most dogs growth plates close around twelve months of age. Now,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I think you probably in your mind, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you're so right, Like a

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Speaker 5: want to run marathons with me. Okay, she's not built

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I didn't buy her thinking we are going

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Speaker 5: All right. Well, I'm so excited about our special guest

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Speaker 5: an interesting story with her pet journey. So who's coming up?

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Speaker 3: Yes, we have Abbi Smiers in the Vets office today.

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Speaker 3: She is one of my very dear friends and also

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Speaker 3: the wife of Dan Smiers from Dan and Shay. She

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Speaker 3: dog rescues. She works at Wags and Walks here at Nashville.

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Speaker 3: She's been very involved with Proverbs, which is another dog

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Speaker 3: rescue here, and is really just an advocate for all animals,

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Speaker 3: whether it's the birds in the trees, the deers in

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited to have her in. She also has

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Speaker 4: So today's episode would be.

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Speaker 2: Great, awesome. Let's welcome Abbie Spiers.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to in the vet's office. Abby Smiers. I'm so

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Speaker 3: excited to have you here.

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Speaker 1: So happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome Anne Today, as everyone knows, perfect, she sat

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Speaker 3: right on cue. This podcast is biod and she brought

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Speaker 3: with her the lovely Macaroni.

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Speaker 4: This is Macaroni. She's so good, Yes, Macaroni, we call

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Speaker 4: her mac.

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Speaker 1: She has the best ear. She's just perfect in every way. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And Abby has a water bowl out you guys in

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Speaker 4: We're in a drought.

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Speaker 1: I did because I had never been around a baby deer.

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Speaker 1: And it says like what age too, that's amazing, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, of course.

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Speaker 2: I got an update like every forty five minutes. It

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Speaker 3: And so then later that evening, you're happy, you let

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Speaker 2: This is when it goes down. You let your dogs

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Speaker 1: Yep, to use the restroom. They had no idea the

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Speaker 4: No big deal.

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Speaker 3: Like basically my own child. And it's mother, Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: A clearly do not trust free.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Mom came flying of nowhere, truly out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: He was like going left, fake and right. The deer's

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Speaker 2: It was amazing. I'm gonna have to post this video

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Speaker 4: But also I'm like, how rude that I protected your.

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Speaker 2: And just leave it alone, leave it alone alone, go

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Speaker 4: And I think that we're doing that with Wax Oh

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00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,160
Speaker 4: for sure. Exciting, absolutely because they're awesome and Mac, you're

443
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,240
Speaker 4: being so good she is, She's like, see, rescues are perfect,

444
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 4: you ow, Q we are.

445
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 3: One of the things that we had bonded about at

446
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 3: the beginning was we both had dogs from breeders.

447
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 4: Yes we did.

448
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 3: You had Miller, your lab and I had Luca, my

449
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,719
Speaker 3: great Dane. And it's not to knock like there are

450
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 3: some amazing breeders out there that do a really good job.

451
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,359
Speaker 3: And it's like you said, it's no judgment on those

452
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,920
Speaker 3: that decide to get dogs from breeders, But I think

453
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 3: once you had a rescue dog, like it really changes

454
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 3: your perspective.

455
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 4: It does.

456
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 1: My situation with Miller ended up being really unfortunate. I

457
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 1: did so much research and it's not even a knock

458
00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: on the breeder.

459
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 4: They're a really, really reputable reader.

460
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,360
Speaker 1: But he was just never really well and he ended

461
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 1: up passing really young, and it was obviously devastating.

462
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 4: But outside of.

463
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 1: That, you know, I started getting involved with rescues, starting

464
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: with Joy, and it just I don't know, there is

465
00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 1: there's just this Yeah, I don't know.

466
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 3: I feel like they just look at connections. Yeah, like

467
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 3: I know you saved me, they do, they know, yeah.

468
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 1: That's Miller was the best dog, so sweet, ten out

469
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 1: of ten, good boy. But I just don't feel like

470
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: he ever needed me.

471
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Speaker 2: He was a trust fund baby.

472
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: He was These dogs need.

473
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Speaker 3: Me, yeah, I mean yeah, exactly, this close to death truly,

474
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 3: if you think about it, like they wouldn't probably wouldn't

475
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Speaker 3: be alive if it wasn't.

476
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Speaker 1: And I think they feel that way still every time I.

477
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Speaker 4: Ve you house, Yeah, exactly make it.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so true. I mean I just think it

479
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 3: like really changes your perspective. And I don't know if

480
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 3: it makes us like gives us.

481
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,479
Speaker 2: Like a martyr complex or something.

482
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just feel like even more

483
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 3: attached to them, and just the thought of the life.

484
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 2: I lived before.

485
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 3: And it's true and Oakley, like when my Shepherd was

486
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 3: on about to be ethanized.

487
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 4: You just think about it and it really just and

488
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 4: he's so gorgeous.

489
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: Changes the way you think about things. Yes, he's a

490
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 3: good boy. He hasn't come to the podcast yet. Well,

491
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 3: just the little guys.

492
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: Well, he needs to be with his friends here. Yeah,

493
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 1: I know his hair can mix in.

494
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 3: With all the other the other dog care I know

495
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 3: our prayer podcast set up. We've got dog hair just

496
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 3: everywhere at this point.

497
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 4: It's like my house. It's fine, exactly.

498
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Speaker 3: Okay, so you've got your four dogs, yes, currently give

499
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Speaker 3: us the rundown of each one.

500
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Speaker 4: Okay.

501
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Speaker 1: So I touched on Joy a little bit. Yeah, we're

502
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 1: going to circle back to circle back to her. I

503
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: know we're going to talk about her a lot to Yeah,

504
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 1: but so I'll keep her breathe. Yeah, but she was

505
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 1: number one name during Pimp and Joy Week more than anything. Yes,

506
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: she used to be Kathy. She was Faral Mama, but

507
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: she was not the Faroh mama. Born to a Farah mama,

508
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 1: she was one of nine puppies and she they just

509
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 1: all are kind of inherently. I keep in touch with

510
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: some of her siblings, and they're just all inherently little nervous,

511
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: shy born to the wilderness dogs.

512
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: She's truly one of the most innately shy dodgs I've

513
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: ever met.

514
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: But she is also the best dog in the world

515
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: is She is so obedient and sweet and lovely. Yes,

516
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: she is just a little hesitant, yeah, of everything, understandably so,

517
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: but she could not be sweeter. And she is the

518
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: best thing in the entire world. I love her so much.

519
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: And then after that, we were fostering this dog, Natchez

520
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: was his name. He was found dodging cars on Natchez Trace,

521
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: hence the name, and he actually was our very first

522
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: foster dog. And in that time of fostering him, he

523
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 1: was so funny. When I was volunteering at Proverbs, he

524
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: was brought in off the streets acting so scared, hiding

525
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: in the back of a crate like shivering. So of

526
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: course they told me he didn't have a foster. So

527
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: I called Dan. I was like, can we foster our

528
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: first dog? And he said sure. And that's one thing

529
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: about Dan if he will never tell me no. People

530
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: al was like, oh is Dan like, won't let you

531
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Speaker 1: get any more dogs? I'm like, no, I have to

532
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: make a dog.

533
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: Dan's the problem.

534
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Speaker 4: Dan always says yes.

535
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Speaker 1: So I get this little Natchez dog hit a sweater

536
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: because it was winter, and we go home and he

537
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: is an absolute terror, like in the best way.

538
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm so shy, he's so sweet.

539
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: But I was like, you duped me, and I instantly

540
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: fell in love with him.

541
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Speaker 2: Is that chief?

542
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: That is now chief?

543
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

544
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: Oh?

545
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Speaker 1: And then over that like foster time was actually when

546
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: Miller got sick and died, okay, And I had already

547
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: been like, I don't know how I'm going to give

548
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: this dog up.

549
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 4: I love him.

550
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 1: But Dan had just started his career. We were traveling

551
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: so much. Anyone who like knows the country music start,

552
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: I mean, artists are gone. He was gone like two

553
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty days a year. And so I was like,

554
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: there's just no world in which we can have three dogs.

555
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: And as a single mother has a single mother and

556
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: obviously not the way that I ever anticipated anything happening.

557
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: But Miller unexpectedly passed and I remember calling Levon the director,

558
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: just bawling and saying, Miller passed away.

559
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 4: But also, I have to keep Natchez because I can't

560
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: get rid of another dog. And he became Chief, and

561
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: him and Dan are like pretty tight.

562
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: They are so tight. Yeah, and he is absolutely hilarious.

563
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: He's so opinionated and so bossy. And we had no

564
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: idea by giving him the name Chief. He was named

565
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: after the Kansas City chiefs, but he just fully embraced

566
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: that personality. He was like, I am I am Chief.

567
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: If one of his siblings like kind of walks by her,

568
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 3: looks at him, heried hook.

569
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 4: Like grimlin like Chief.

570
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: If anyone knows the like mister, I think it's mister

571
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: Bubb's Instagram account. He's like a little Chihuahua mix brown

572
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: thing that is really really growlly. They are the same, yea,

573
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: the same thing, are separated at birth. And then right

574
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: before Dan and I got married, we were asked to

575
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: foster a dog and I said no because we were

576
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Speaker 1: about to get married. I was planning a wedding and

577
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: it was a lot. And then they know that I'm

578
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: a sucker. So they sent me a photo of this dog.

579
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: It's just that this is what he looks like. And

580
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: he looked I don't know, he looked maybe like a

581
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: fifty pound husky mix of sorts. But what got me

582
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: was he was gray. His whole neck and chest were gray,

583
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: even though he was an all white dog, because he

584
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: had been chained outside. And so I, again being me,

585
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: I said, okay, we'll take him and we'll figure it

586
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: out with the wedding. Or I think I said I

587
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: need him moved before my wedding.

588
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 4: And so he came.

589
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: We go to pick him up, and they brought out

590
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: an eleven pound dog to us, and I was like,

591
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: this is not the right dog.

592
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: I was going to say when you said fifty, I

593
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: was like, did you mean fifteen?

594
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: Yes, well he looked big in this photo. And then

595
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: bring him out They're like, no, this is They were

596
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: calling him ghost Pepper, and so they were like this

597
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: is ghost Pepper. I'm like, no, this is a big

598
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: like I'm picking up a big dog and this was

599
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: ghost Pepper. And so we brought him home and he

600
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: is now a ghost. But even though I protested getting

601
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: a dog before our wedding. Dan was in charge of

602
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: getting their outfits for the wedding, and we were still

603
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: fostering Ghost, and we did our engagement photos and Chief

604
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: and Joy were in the engagement photos.

605
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: Ghost was not. He was just our foster dog.

606
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: And then their outfits showed up in the mail and

607
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: there was a dress for Joy and two tuxedos. I

608
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: was like, Dan, did you get Ghost a tuxedo? And

609
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: he said yes, I did. I said, okay, well, Ghost

610
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: is in our wedding photos, then we're obviously keeping him.

611
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 4: He was like, that was one thousand percent my plan.

612
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: So he was in the wedding.

613
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: He did not leave after that then.

614
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 4: And he's really obsessed with you.

615
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh yes, gho, Ghost, say his mom. He cares about

616
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: nothing in this world but me. Yeah, truly, it's we

617
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: will talk about what is happening with Joy here shortly.

618
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: But all the other dogs, when Joy was at the

619
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: vet all day, they were all acting weird.

620
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 4: Ghost could not care.

621
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: Less because he cares just as long as I'm there,

622
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: He's either going to be in my closet or be

623
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: in my lap.

624
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: Otherwise.

625
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: I feel like every woman owner deserves that kind of thing.

626
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it is unconditional, it's unconditional and loves me.

627
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 4: He does.

628
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: He's a mom's boy, he does.

629
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Speaker 3: I always make fun of not make fun but like

630
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 3: I'm like the moms that have boy sons and they're

631
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: just like obsessed with They're like, okay, that's crazy, but

632
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 3: like I kind of get it.

633
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm mind to get it. No, he loves me

634
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 4: more than anything. And now we joke.

635
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: I'll always say to a ghost, I'm like, your dad

636
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: didn't even want.

637
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 4: To keep you. He's like, that is not He's like.

638
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: I bought the tuxedo.

639
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 4: Okay, I can't let him know that it was me. No,

640
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 4: he loves me too much. Yeah, Frank, it's heart well.

641
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: Noisy okay, okay, yeah you kick well. Noisy over here

642
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: is like is it time to talk about me?

643
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 4: Like hello?

644
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: Then a couple of years later came this one. Oh

645
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: also though the ghost thing back to ghost really quick.

646
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: The gray from his chain. He just to like talk

647
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: about rescue and how awful things can be sometimes. This

648
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: little thing that I thought was not that it is

649
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: ever okay to chain up a dog, but a dog

650
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: being chained in someone's front yard also led me to

651
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: believe this was a bigger dog. Why anyone would have

652
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: a heavy chain on a dog, but let alone. And

653
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: he was eleven pounds and he's probably he's healthy now,

654
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: so he's probably eighteen. But he was just this emaciated

655
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: eleven pound little thing.

656
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a chain probably weighed more than him

657
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: a thousand percent. Yeah, it was awful, harol.

658
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: It took us like two months to get to shampoo

659
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: that gray.

660
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: Out of him.

661
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just some of the shape that these

662
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: pets come into the rescue and is just it makes

663
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: you question humanity.

664
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: It does, true.

665
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: That's a Roney's That was amazing.

666
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: She was like, what is that figure?

667
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: We are back? Mac just saw a strange man behind

668
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: the set. I may have peed myself a little. That

669
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: was a very loud.

670
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: Bar and the anti I mean just like, no, I'm

671
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: just gonna lay down, she says, And I'm good I.

672
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 4: Saved you all here. You're welcome than you for be

673
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 4: on guard. While Mac came into the picture as if

674
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: another foster fail.

675
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: Of course, Taylor's oldest time.

676
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Yes, she I hadn't fostered in a minute, and so

677
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: they asked Proverbs asked if I wanted to come pick

678
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: out a puppy to foster, and I said sure, and

679
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: I actually went to pick up a completely different dog

680
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: and she was sitting there and they're like, well, she

681
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: needs one too, So I was like, I kind of

682
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: like this one.

683
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 4: And so she came home.

684
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: She did have the ear like that when she was

685
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: really little, and it was the cutest thing.

686
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: That's the one.

687
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Be one straight up. It's the cutest ear in the

688
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: whole world. And so when she was really really little

689
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: they were doing that. I was like, this dog and

690
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: I knew right away I was gonna have a hard time.

691
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 4: But you don't know if it's going to stay like that. No,

692
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 4: you have no ise.

693
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: So the fact that it did well and it went

694
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: down for a minute. I went to the gym one

695
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: day and came back.

696
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 4: In the ear was down.

697
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, sad, and then lo and behold.

698
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: A couple weeks later, back up and it has never

699
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: never gone away.

700
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: It doesn't really.

701
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: Make sense either. The ear is so thick and so heavy.

702
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: There's just no world in which it should stand up.

703
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 4: No, but all accounts, she is the most special dog.

704
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: So this one was definitely my choice. I couldn't live

705
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: without her.

706
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's your girl.

707
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: I love her so much, and she is just one

708
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 4: of a kind in every way.

709
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: It really is one of the I'm not sure I've

710
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: ever met another dog like her in my life.

711
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: Everything about her, she has like a weird, funny gait

712
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: when she.

713
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: Walks, the ear eternal puppy.

714
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: Yes, she's now five, but everyone who meets her thinks

715
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: she's six months old. Still. Yeah, acts like a puppy,

716
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: looks like a puppy.

717
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 4: She's perfect.

718
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: Yes, we love her. We love her tremendously.

719
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 3: So last time at least's Joy. Yes, and you've kind

720
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: of already told us a little bit about her.

721
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 4: I didn't know her name was Kathy. That's a fun

722
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: fact for me today. Not a great name.

723
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: Joy is much better. Yes, And recently, you guys have

724
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: been through a bit of a healthy journey. Do you

725
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: want to walk us through what's happened?

726
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: Yes, And you can chime in if I miss make

727
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: any mistakes, as you've been right there with us. And

728
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I was on a walk with Mac and Joy and

729
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: it was interesting because early in the walk, Mac being

730
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: Mac pulled pretty hard when Joy was peeing and she yelped,

731
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: and so I made sure everything was good.

732
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: Everyone was good.

733
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: We walked, and towards the end of the walk, I

734
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, there is a huge mass

735
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: on her backside and right to the left of her tail,

736
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: And of course I immediate called you and I got

737
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: her into the vet the next day, and I would

738
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: have thought it was a hernia, possibly as a non vet,

739
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: because it happened right after Mac pulled a swelling ye

740
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: something from that initial poll. I took her in the

741
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: next morning and a different vet did a little sample,

742
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: did an ultrasound and didn't see anything. Nothing about it

743
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: looked very strange and so well, I shouldn't say that.

744
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: Everyone thought it looked strange, but nothing was coming up.

745
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 4: So we went home.

746
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for listeners, what we will often do if

747
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: there's a new growth and I think it's really interesting too,

748
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: for you to be like, hey, it looked like.

749
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: It literally just popped up.

750
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: A lot of times they can, you know, new bumps

751
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: on our dogs can slowly grow, but there are times

752
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: when it quite literally will pop up overnight.

753
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: I started to like second guess myself a little bit,

754
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: being like, would I really not see this? But anyone

755
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: who knows me knows. I am with these dogs one

756
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: hundred percent of my life, and I just don't think

757
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: I would have not noticed something like that. I'm so

758
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: hyper aware of them, and Dan hadn't noticed anything. And

759
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: even I have Sweetbrook who comes to my house to

760
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: trim their nails every three weeks, and she when I

761
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: saw her the next time, she was like, no, that

762
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: was not there. So I was like, okay, this really

763
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: I am not I'm like this did this was not here,

764
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: And so initially it was just potentially a hematoma. I

765
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: was told to put a warm compress on it a

766
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: few times a day and then go from there. And

767
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: when Josie got back in town, she was like, it's

768
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: weird that it hasn't gone down at all. I'm gonna

769
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: come over and get my own sample. So she was

770
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: coming over already to go on a walk where I

771
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: did not find a baby deer.

772
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: So we did indeed go successful.

773
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Well, we did indeed go on the walk, and so

774
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: she came over and got samples herself, and then from

775
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: there it kind.

776
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: Of yally spirals escalated.

777
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever we get a sample from a new growth,

778
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: it's called doing an aspiration. So a fine needle aspirt,

779
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: and it can be really difficult sometimes to get an answer.

780
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: We call it an F and A because we're taking

781
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: such a tiny needle. We're sticking it into a growth,

782
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 3: so it's a really small sample size and some growths

783
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 3: will exfoliate cells really easily and we can look under

784
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: the microscope and be like, oh, yeah, this is definitely

785
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: what this is, and others can be really difficult. And

786
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: in Joy's case, her sample did not exfoliate cells very well. No,

787
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: I did not, so in looking under the microscope, it

788
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: was a lot of red blood cells, which is like

789
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: okay if we hit a blood vessel, and then there

790
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: was some a couple questionable cells where I was like,

791
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: m I think we should have the pathol just look

792
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: at this. Yeah, So then we sent it off to

793
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: the pathologists.

794
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: Yes, and then it unfortunately came back with what is

795
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: indicative of sarcoma, which I know a lot about now,

796
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: so I can say this too, asking Josie, but is

797
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: a soft tissue cancer. And what is interesting about this

798
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: whole scenario with Joy has been that it came up

799
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. We immediately got her into surgery. Josie

800
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: referred me to this incredible surgeon. His name is doctor Powinski.

801
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: We love you, doctor Powinski, and we love sharks.

802
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: He loves sharks. I've learned this like the animal sharks, sharks.

803
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: Since Joy has been recovering, she has different sets of

804
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: pajamas and I sent her in with shark pajamas the

805
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: other day and he was like, wait, did you guys

806
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: do that for me? And I was like what, And

807
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: he wears sharks on his surgical yes, and so he

808
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: thought I knew that, but I didn't. But now I

809
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: will always put her pajamas for him. But he has

810
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: just been so wonderful, So thank you for that recommendation.

811
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: And never on this podcast thought we'd be saying we love.

812
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: Sharks sharks, but yes, he has just been wonderful. And

813
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: he removed the mass. Originally, this has probably been what

814
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: three weeks a month now in a lot yea while.

815
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: It's gone by very quickly, but so we he removed

816
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: the mass. It's in a really tricky spot, like I said,

817
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: to the left of her tail, so the incision was

818
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: pretty big. He got surrounding tissue as well, and then

819
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: sent it off And again back to this kind of

820
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: being a weird situation, this sarcoma is more likely than

821
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: not a grade one or a grade two tumor, and

822
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: so they would we would just move on like he

823
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: would remove it. We'd get clean margins and then just

824
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: keep an eye on it from there. But unfortunately, Joyce

825
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: came back as a grade three, which is more likely

826
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: to spread, more likely to come back, YadA YadA, all

827
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: of the sad, horrible things that I'm not gonna get

828
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: into because I'm emotionally drained.

829
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 4: But all the bad stuff.

830
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: And so the option from there were not.

831
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: To interrupt you yas for listeners because other people are

832
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 3: maybe in the same situation.

833
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 4: As I want YadA YadA.

834
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you can YadA YadA, I want you to.

835
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: I just think that for other listeners out there, when

836
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: you find a new growth on your dog, like exactly

837
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: what Abby did, is like the path that I would recommend,

838
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: so you get an as for it to maybe potentially

839
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 3: get an idea of what's going on, and then from there,

840
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: even if you don't get an answer, hopefully you do.

841
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 3: I recommend going into surgery, taking it off, and sending

842
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 3: it out for biopsy, because that's going to tell us

843
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: exactly what it is did we get it all and

844
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 3: what do we need to do going forward?

845
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and to touch on that too, I remember sitting

846
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: there for that first surgery and doctor Pointski being like,

847
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, there is a chance that we'll send this

848
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: off and it'll be absolutely nothing. And he wasn't saying

849
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: that to like get my hopes up. He was saying that, like,

850
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: this surgery is expensive. I'm like I said to him,

851
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: I said, if you told me that payment was my

852
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: left arm, but or my right arm, my dominant one,

853
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: that's fine too, like both arms, but I would save her.

854
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 4: I would have given him both arms.

855
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: So I told him, please, we will do whatever is

856
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: necessary for do not worry. And so but unfortunately it

857
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: came back worst case scenario, which was highly unlikely. And

858
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: so after that first surgery and we got the pathology

859
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: report back on the mass itself, knowing that it was

860
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: grade three and he did not in that initial thing,

861
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: we did not get clean margins, and so the options

862
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: were radiation, which found out does not happen in Nashville.

863
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: You got to travel somewhere from that, and it's also

864
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: really hard on a dog, especially a nervous dog like Joy.

865
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: Another option is to just watch it and do nothing,

866
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: which is obviously not an option in our household. And

867
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: then the third was a second surgery where they would

868
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: kind of just do the same thing but try to

869
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: get better margins, and he felt very confident that he

870
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: could do that with a second surgery, so in having

871
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: faith and trust in him and doctor Josie, we sent

872
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: her back in and thankfully we just got news that

873
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: he did get clean margins, so he was able to

874
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: get everything this go around. The soft issue he sent

875
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: back in came back with no cancer, so that was

876
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: step one in all of this and obviously really great news.

877
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: Since then, it we're just having a really hard time

878
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: keeping her incision closed because it's in a really tricky spot.

879
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: Every time she sits or stands, or peas or or

880
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: does anything a dog does, even without extra activity, she

881
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: is putting a lot of tension on it. So we

882
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: have now gone to treating it as an open wound,

883
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: which smells awesome.

884
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: It's really it's a challenge.

885
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: It really smells.

886
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: I will say to silver lining in this whole thing

887
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: has been her Jammy.

888
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: Oh, her jammys are the best we've got.

889
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: Strawberry Jami Sharks Lamas yeah, and diverse to match. I

890
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: mean it's wonderful, it's really really good. So yeah, the

891
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: jammys are great. We're going in for bandage changes and

892
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: working on it, and then once we can get this

893
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: little thing to heal up, we will head for chemo.

894
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll do chemotherapy.

895
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 3: We've got an amazing oncology team here in Nashville, and

896
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 3: the biggest part with her condition is where the primary

897
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: tumor was is clean now clean with margins, and so

898
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 3: that is going to give her a great prognosis.

899
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And again I'm learning about zarcoma, so with that

900
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: grade three tumor, it's just the reason we know that

901
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: there isn't any spread in terms of visible tumors because

902
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: we've done X rays, but they're still about I don't

903
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: know what it's like forty or fifty percent chance of

904
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: microscopic spread because of the grade of her original mass.

905
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: So well, that's why we're going. I know a lot

906
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: of people are wondering why. Yeah, I'm going to get

907
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: because I've shared this on Instagram. Yes, if we've removed

908
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: it with surgery, why are we still doing chemo? And

909
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: that is why we are still doing.

910
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 2: Just in case there's any little spread.

911
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Just to be safe. And I've also learned that chemo

912
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: and dogs is quite easy.

913
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point.

914
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, chemotherapy and humans, we really

915
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: target every rapidly dividing cell in the body, and humans

916
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: it can be really taxing on them. And dogs we

917
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: definitely prioritize their quality of life a little bit more so.

918
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: Although yes it's effective, we're not like they're not down

919
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: and out. They tend to be, you know, solve their

920
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: appetite and their tails wagging like they're very much.

921
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: They don't lose their hair for the most part. So yeah,

922
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: I've heard and I know that. I mean, you've talked

923
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: to Joyce Oncologist more than I have. I actually have

924
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: not talked to her, but I've heard she's wonderful, amazing. Yes,

925
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: doctor Powinski said she's wonderful as well.

926
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: But doctor Lucas, Lucas, way to meet you.

927
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: I for me, this has been and I haven't really

928
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: shared this with you, but this has been like a

929
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: really great reminder for me and like just made me

930
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: develop even more empathy for owners and my clients and

931
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: that so often I'm calling people and giving them bad

932
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: news and all.

933
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: Just not that I'm.

934
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: Cold hearted, but I'm a little bit desensitized where I'm like, Okay,

935
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: this is what it is, this is what we need

936
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 3: to do next. Like I'm very like, of course empathized greatly,

937
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: but this is what we need to do to take

938
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: care of this. And then I hang up the phone

939
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 3: and I don't hear from them again until the next step.

940
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: And so being with you throughout this is just like

941
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: reminded me that when I hang up the phone, all

942
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: the flood of emotions that is happening on the other end,

943
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: and like how deeply attached we are to.

944
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 4: Our animals and when I like to.

945
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: Think about it, yeah, I mean, it's just you know,

946
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: it has just reminded me.

947
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: And I have a lot of empathy for you for

948
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: having to be that person because I know, and I'm

949
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: so grateful to you for walking with us through all

950
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: of that, because it has been so helpful and because

951
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: I know it's not I've been a hot mess and

952
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: that's not super.

953
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: Fun beautifully true. I don't know about that, but anyway,

954
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 4: thank you.

955
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's been something. But I'm I'm optimistic

956
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: and positive and I will do everything I can for her.

957
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: But I know we've talked about this, and I was

958
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: talking to her surgeon about it too the other day.

959
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: It's just I think with it being Joy, I would

960
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: I don't want anything ever it happened to any of

961
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: my dogs, But it's just this heightened thing of she

962
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: is such a part, like she is the.

963
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: Reason I am who I am.

964
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: She's why I'm in rescue, She's why I have become.

965
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 2: A decade of Yeah, I am your purpose.

966
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just the dog girl to so

967
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: many people, and that is why.

968
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: Right, it's all her.

969
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: I am absolutely yes, She's been a huge part, a

970
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: big part of my life.

971
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 4: You too, Mac, don't.

972
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: Worry like I want to. Mac is like almost half

973
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: asleep at this point.

974
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 4: She's so funny because she can be.

975
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 1: So so exuberant and then just so chill, so.

976
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 4: Chill, and you've just got the dirtiest face. Figure.

977
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: Well, I know Joy is going to do great, and

978
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: she's in the best of hands. I mean, she's got

979
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 3: a medical tea. She has a whole medical bigger than

980
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 3: most humans ever.

981
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: Get.

982
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: I got someone else you the other day, like, is

983
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: she seeing just like her normal bet for this I

984
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, she has multiple bets on colleges,

985
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: the surgeon.

986
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: I've got my friend. Yeah, I mean this is this

987
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: goes nationwide.

988
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: She's a fancy girl pretty much.

989
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, on a brighter note, we always like to

990
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: end this podcast with is there anything that you do

991
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: at home when you're in the quiet of your home

992
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 3: and people aren't watching, Like funny silly with your animals?

993
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 4: I know thousands of things.

994
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: So one thing that I think is very funny that

995
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: Dan does is he says he needs to get them

996
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: soft goods and also, we don't have any rules in

997
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 1: our house with our dogs. Sorry trainers listening. They run

998
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: the house. That is just you just pay the mortgage exactly.

999
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: It is one thousand percent their house. So they are

1000
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: already on soft goods. They are on couch, bed, chair,

1001
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: whatever else. But he doesn't think that's soft enough for them.

1002
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: So then when it's time for us to like watch TV,

1003
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: he gets out all the soft goods. So there are blankets, pillows.

1004
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just covered in soft goods. And I

1005
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: know a lot Like we were on the road last

1006
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: weekend and he was like, do they need soft goods?

1007
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: And they're fine? They're sitting on the couch for like

1008
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 4: one minute, They're going to be okay, Dan, all of

1009
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 4: the soft goods we have after dinnertry and they are

1010
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 4: so accustomed to it they know, like the second I'm

1011
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 4: putting down my fork to finish Mimi, because they know

1012
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 4: they get their treat as soon as I'm done eating,

1013
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 4: So after dinner treat, they go straight to the cabinet

1014
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: after dinner, night cap. There's so many I'm dying.

1015
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: I need you to send me a picture of them

1016
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: having soft good will that soft goods.

1017
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: Time, so many soft goods. That is so many.

1018
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: Soft good I have said at once, I will say

1019
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: it again. I want to come back as one of

1020
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: your dogs in my next night, living the dream we'd

1021
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: love to do. You have send me pictures. You're like,

1022
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: is it okay for me to feed them this? And

1023
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: their bowl is like a healthy little mix of dog food, strawberries,

1024
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: a blueberry and apple slice, a carrot. I'm like, oh

1025
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: my god, it's amazing.

1026
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 4: They do get banana time as well.

1027
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 6: With Dan when he's making a smoothie banana time, he

1028
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 6: gives up half of his banana for a smoothie because

1029
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 6: the other half goes to the dogs and he slices

1030
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 6: it up and spreads almond butter on each individual slice

1031
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 6: of banana.

1032
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: I don't know who do you think the bigger sucker is?

1033
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 4: You were Dan? Oh, that's a great like who's the

1034
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: disciplinarian more so than.

1035
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: They definitely respect me more than I think, because just

1036
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: inherently because I'm the one that's always around. I mean

1037
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: their mama, Yes, and we It's just it's like hilarious

1038
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: to watch us walk around the house because it's just

1039
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: me and then like my little train of like dogs.

1040
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 4: Just running around at all times.

1041
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: I love that.

1042
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 4: It's really it's really wonderful.

1043
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: And it's nice with him being on the road so

1044
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: often and traveling.

1045
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: You've got your crew, got my buddies, and you guys

1046
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: get to go too sometimes.

1047
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do they do when they're on tour?

1048
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: They actually do great. They're really good. Chief and Joy

1049
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: I've done it for so long. And Max pretty adaptable,

1050
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: and so his ghost he's just like he's like.

1051
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: As long as my mom's there, he's like, give me

1052
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 4: a soft good and my mom and I'm good, that's good.

1053
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 4: My mom rite up my blank.

1054
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: So they just hang on the bus like, can you

1055
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: just do it?

1056
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 4: Okay?

1057
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will walk around like if we're somewhere nice,

1058
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: like there's always, you know, a.

1059
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 4: River right near the arena wherever you are.

1060
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,479
Speaker 1: We'll go on a walk and hang and then during

1061
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: the show they just chill.

1062
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm coming back as one of your dogs, like to

1063
00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: have you. That is amazing.

1064
00:47:59,160 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: We would feel on.

1065
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 2: I'll be a cha I might bite, but you know.

1066
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 4: I love a chiwa.

1067
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: I do got a soft spot.

1068
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you

1069
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: for sharing your story with Joy. I know I will

1070
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: be falling along because I am very much invested in vested,

1071
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: but all the listeners as well. And if you don't

1072
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: fall abby, you should because watching her and her dogs.

1073
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 4: Is mostly just dogs that I am sharing about Joy. Yeah.

1074
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: Maybe sharks now too, so I do like the ocean.

1075
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, very fair.

1076
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: Well, I love you very much, Thank you for coming on.

1077
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. You're welcome.

1078
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: Bye.

1079
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: Did we nail it? We did it.

1080
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 5: All right, What a great conversation with Abbi Smyers. And

1081
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 5: we will definitely be keeping Joy in our prayers and

1082
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 5: just keeping up with her journey and seeing how they're doing.

1083
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: Unfortunate but I'm glad that they have you. Yeah, all

1084
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: the good vibes for Joy.

1085
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: It's so I mean, we touched on it in the interview,

1086
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: but it's so important to catch things early. So yeah,

1087
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: anytime I'm your pets have a new lumper bump like that,

1088
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: just getting them into your vet because it is a

1089
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: time sensitive situation and the fact that Abby caught it

1090
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: so quickly, really you know, hopefully means that Joy will

1091
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: have a much better prognosis.

1092
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and as a testament to the owner that she

1093
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 5: is too, because she's obviously someone who really pays close

1094
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 5: attention to her animals, hundreds everything so really really awesome

1095
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 5: just to hear her. And if you follow Abby on

1096
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 5: social media, you will be able to keep up with

1097
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 5: all their adorable rescues because they are so daring cute.

1098
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 3: Yes, at Abby Smeiers on Instagram. Her dogs are adorable.

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Speaker 3: All of her content is amazing, So give her a

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Speaker 2: All Right.

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Speaker 5: One of my favorite parts of the show always we

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Speaker 5: are heading into paw and Order this week.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: For paw and Order this week, number one is I

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Speaker 3: would not forget to run an annual fecal on my dog.

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Speaker 3: I feel like so often we think about annual blood

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Speaker 3: work or an annual your analysis and their vaccines that

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Speaker 3: oftentimes the fecal will kind of get overlooked.

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Speaker 2: But this time of year it always makes me.

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Speaker 3: I just always remember how important it is, and we

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Speaker 3: just see so many GI parasites. I actually just had

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Speaker 3: a dog the other day throw up an entire worm.

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Speaker 3: We're doing a wellness examine. This dog is totally healthy

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Speaker 3: and I'm like touching his belly, listening to his heart,

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it's throws up an entire

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Speaker 3: worm comes out.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh big.

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Speaker 3: It was like probably this no for those who can't see,

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Speaker 3: like six inches, maybe like pretty big, a long round worm.

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Speaker 2: You see.

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Speaker 5: People like the thing now is the parasite clids that

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Speaker 5: like humans are doing. He was like, I am doing

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Speaker 5: my own parasite cleans everyone.

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Speaker 2: I'll show you humans.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 2: The owner was like green in the face.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, it's.

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Speaker 3: Okay, You're like I have had you know, he knows

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Speaker 3: that my face explode on my face, sir, A worm

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Speaker 3: is nothing nothing.

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Speaker 4: Once again, I love my job.

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Speaker 3: I love my job, but yeah, I know it sounds

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Speaker 3: it is disgusting, But GI parasites are really easy to

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Speaker 3: take care of, and if they're not taking care of,

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Speaker 3: they can cause long term effects.

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Speaker 4: So run an annual fecal I think people.

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Speaker 5: Like I know me as a dog owner, when you

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Speaker 5: go to the vet and they're like, we're going to

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Speaker 5: have to do a fecal test, you just dread it

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Speaker 5: because you're like, I have to go home and I

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00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 5: have to put this poop in a cup and then

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00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 5: return it back to the vet. I think that's why

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00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 5: people don't overlook it. They overlook it because they're.

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Speaker 4: Like, I don't want to do this, Yeah, yeah, you

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00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 4: got it, you got us poo.

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Speaker 3: Or just if you're going in for your dog's annual,

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Speaker 3: just no, and just pick it up preemptively, bring it

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Speaker 3: in a little baggy and just bring it with you.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So you can do that. It's not going to

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Speaker 5: like absolutely affect the sample.

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Speaker 3: As long as it's like within the last twelve to

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours, you're good to go. My French bulldog

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Speaker 3: always vets office walk in every single time she'd poop

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Speaker 3: in the vet's office.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: She was not a poop in the house kind of dog,

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Speaker 5: but she was like here's my fucal sample.

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Speaker 2: That's a good girl. That's the kind of patient we need,

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Speaker 2: right in the front, giving me a sample right off

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Speaker 2: the bat.

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Speaker 4: Yep, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Okay, number two, I would not forget to ask my

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Speaker 3: vet if what my pet has is zoonautic zoonotic means?

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Speaker 3: Can a human can track this disease from their animal? Hey,

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00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 3: if your pet has a cough, if it has a

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00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 3: skin rash, if it has a tummy ache. I think

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Speaker 3: it's always a great idea to be like, hey, can

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Speaker 3: I get this? Can my cat get this?

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Speaker 2: Children get it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Can you're the ones that are gonna be touching it?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 3: And I actually I had a case a few weeks

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Speaker 3: ago where this cat came in and he was super

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Speaker 3: itchy and had lesions all over his face and I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at him. I'm like, you know, this could be bacterial.

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Speaker 3: I'm not entirely sure what's going on. And I look

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Speaker 3: at the owner and she has this like perfectly circular

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Speaker 3: lesion on her arm and I was like, does that itch?

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00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: And she was like, yeah, it really itches.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, I'm not a human doctor,

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Speaker 3: but I'm pretty sure that's ringworm. Yeah, and cats carry ringworm,

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00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 3: and I'm pretty sure your cat probably gave it to you,

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00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: so and lo and Beholdy ended up testing him and

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00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 3: he did have ringworm, and the owner got better. But

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Speaker 3: it's just h Yeah, just good to know if you

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Speaker 3: can contract it from your animal. Most of the time, no,

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Speaker 3: but in the instances you can, it's good to know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: Ringworm with horses is always something like that is a

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00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 5: little more obvious on them. And I've had so many

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Speaker 5: friends of mine that have just not paid attention and

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Speaker 5: ended up with that ringworm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so interesting ringworm. Like ten of us could

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Speaker 3: be in a room handling a cat with ringworm, and

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Speaker 3: seven of us wouldn't get it. But then there's the

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Speaker 3: three like people, some people, for whatever reason, are so

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Speaker 3: susceptible to it.

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Speaker 2: I always get it. You always get I just look

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Speaker 2: at him and I get it.

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Speaker 4: I'm like ding it, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Number three, I would not say my pet isn't in

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Speaker 3: pain when it's limping, and this isn't no fault at

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Speaker 3: all to owners, but a lot of times would I'll

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Speaker 3: see it is. A dog will come in it's limping,

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Speaker 3: and they'll be like, yeah, but like, you know, he's

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Speaker 3: not in pain.

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Speaker 4: He's doing fine, And I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, actually, my job as a veterinarian is to detect

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Speaker 3: when animals are in pain, because they can't tell us,

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Speaker 3: so I have to be an advocate for them. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: limping is a pretty clear indication that something's uncomfortable. And

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Speaker 3: so even though your pet might still be eating and

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Speaker 3: drinking normally wanting to go for a run. I know

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Speaker 3: my dog would go running on three legs if he

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Speaker 3: had to, Like he would never say no to a walk.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that they're not in pain and in discomfort,

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Speaker 3: and so it's something to be like take pretty seriously.

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Speaker 5: And they're people pleasers dogs are, so they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I'll suck it up and we'll just go for our

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Speaker 5: walk because they want to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 5: I think of that too, Like if I sprain my ankle,

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Speaker 5: I can still eat and go to work and you know,

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Speaker 5: get ready for the day.

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean I should be walking around.

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00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and doesn't mean you don't need some mighty profile

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00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 3: to get through your deaths, some painkillers okay.

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00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So yeah, that's good to know because I think too.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of dogs that go a little hard

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Speaker 5: sometimes when they're playing fetch and stuff, and like we've

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Speaker 5: had that happen where one of our dogs had like

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00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 5: sprained her foot and so she'd be fine, but then

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Speaker 5: when she'd play, she'd start limping a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And you know, at the.

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00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: Beginning we were like, oh, she'll be fine, but no,

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00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 5: she needed she needed a little anti inflammatory.

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00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. Yeah, So just you know, keeping an eye

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Speaker 3: on them. And it's not always about eating and drinking

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00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: and want to go do things. I mean, it's all

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00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: the other signs too, So for sure important to know.

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Speaker 5: Awesome, Well, it was so great to have Abbie Smiers

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Speaker 5: on the show today and for everyone listening, don't forget

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Speaker 5: you guys can rate and review.

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1249
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Speaker 3: And feel free as always to reach out. My Instagram

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Speaker 3: handle is at doctor Josie Vett. Feel free to submit

1251
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Speaker 3: your questions, any feedback comments you have.

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Speaker 2: We want to hear it all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for joining us in the Vet's Office.