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Speaker 1: This is the three and Out podcast. Good to be alive,

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Speaker 1: good to be heard, and good to have football officially back.

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Speaker 1: We will talk about everything that's happened. I'm recording this

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Speaker 1: a little bit before the Old Miss game. They play Louisville.

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Speaker 1: Not that I really cared that much about that game.

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Speaker 1: losts a little luster to me. Fantastic weekend, an elite

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Speaker 1: college football weekend, had some thoughts, some takeaways. We will

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Speaker 1: hit on a lot of other stuff. You know. Week

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Speaker 1: other NFL things that I'm really excited for this week.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff is the

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Speaker 1: this fall. So I can't can't wait and subscribe, leave

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Speaker 1: greatly appreciate that. To me, the number one takeaway of

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Speaker 1: can pull this off, maybe he's just the most impressive

427
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Speaker 1: coach in the league that no one talks about. Because

428
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: last year in Atlanta, they like pulled names out of

429
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Speaker 1: a hat. They all started coaching different positions. I'm not

430
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Speaker 1: questioning this guy as a coach. I'm not like, I

431
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: think he's a pretty impressive guy, but I do just

432
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: think it's a very very challenging thing to do. If

433
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Speaker 1: I took Sean McVeigh right now, or Kyle Shanahan, for example,

434
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Speaker 1: who know their offense and that you know kind of

435
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 1: Shannahan or Order La Flour and what they do. They

436
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: know at the back of their hand. It's their baby

437
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: because they've all Kyle's been around it since birth. McVeigh

438
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: and the floor now have been around it for over

439
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: a decade and they've been calling it now for a while.

440
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: If I went and said, hey, can you run Sean

441
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Speaker 1: Payton's offense, and let's just say the Saints hired him,

442
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: Sean's like, I want you to call the place, but

443
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Speaker 1: you're gonna call my place, Like, well, what don't you

444
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: want him to call his place? It'd just be a challenge. Now,

445
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: maybe two or three years down the line you become

446
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: comfortable with it. But day one now, I'm not saying

447
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: this is going to impact them necessarily against Andy Dalton.

448
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: He stinks that they should beat the Bears, but just

449
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: for a team that has very very high expectations in

450
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: a very very difficult division, which is a lot online,

451
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: I think this could be a little more challenging than

452
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: even Sean quite realizes. One thing I've been thinking a

453
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: lot about is uh the Josh Allen implications on the

454
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: Browns and the Ravens, because I think it's human nature.

455
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: I know this happened to me several times in my life.

456
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: I'm sure anyone listening to this has had the same thoughts.

457
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: You always think when you're an employee, think you are

458
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: worth more, typically than you are or some of your counterparts.

459
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: How often do you tell your friends that work in

460
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: other businesses, like I should be making more than this guy.

461
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: I think I'm better at my job than this guy,

462
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Speaker 1: A K A. I deserve more money. And that may

463
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Speaker 1: be true or that may not be true. But typically

464
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: it's on your employer to make the decision. Do they

465
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Speaker 1: feel you're worth more because you go, hey, if I'm

466
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Speaker 1: making grand and I think I'm more grand, you go, hey,

467
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Speaker 1: it's a hund grand, or I'm out of here. They're

468
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: either gonna have to say oh okay or see you later,

469
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: God speed, have a good run, take it easy. Uh.

470
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: It happens to every single human that ever wants a race.

471
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: You either get the raise or they say no. And

472
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: if you have options, you bounce. If you don't, you

473
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: just stay better, right, But eventually it's on your employer

474
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: or your boss. They make the decision, like you don't

475
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Speaker 1: necessarily make the decision decision, even though indirectly you kind

476
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Speaker 1: of do through your work, through your resume, through what

477
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Speaker 1: you bring to the table. So when Josh Allen gets

478
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Speaker 1: his contract hundred fifty million dollars guaranteed, I think all

479
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: of us and listen, I'm a Josh Allen fan, We're like, jeez,

480
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Speaker 1: that is a lot of money. That is a lot

481
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Speaker 1: of coin. Because it was one of the biggest guarantees.

482
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Speaker 1: I think it was more guaranteed cash than even Mahomes.

483
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Speaker 1: Obviously mahomes contract is way bigger and he's not going anywhere,

484
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: but it was a massive deal. But it also had

485
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Speaker 1: implications because there are two guys in his draft class

486
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: who are both kind of on the same path, right.

487
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, who was more accomplished at least in the

488
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: regular season, had one an m v P. Now it's

489
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Speaker 1: up until last year, he hadn't won a playoff game.

490
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: Josh won two playoff games last year. Baker, who hadn't

491
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Speaker 1: really done anything until last year when he also won

492
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Speaker 1: a playoff game and played really well. Well, if if

493
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Speaker 1: I'm those guys, I go, well, if he got paid

494
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Speaker 1: at minimum, I want the same money. If I'm Lamar Jackson,

495
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: be like, well, he has one more playoff win than me,

496
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Speaker 1: but I won an m v P. I've made you

497
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Speaker 1: guys a bunch of money. And Baker goes, well, you

498
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: guys have never had a quarterback basically my entire life,

499
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Speaker 1: you guys have been a laughing stock at the position,

500
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Speaker 1: and you guys have never won. Now, it's not just

501
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Speaker 1: on me, unlike those other two guys that have a

502
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Speaker 1: major impact, But like, I think I'm pretty deserving. Could

503
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Speaker 1: you guys win without me? And like the elephant in

504
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: the room now is the market's kind of set? Josh

505
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Speaker 1: Allen got a hundred fifty million dollars guaranteed, Like, are

506
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Speaker 1: those guys gonna be willing? When I say those guys,

507
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Speaker 1: I mean those teams gonna be willing to give that

508
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Speaker 1: contract to Lamar Jackson. Let's start with him. To me,

509
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Speaker 1: this year is gonna be fascinating. He does not have

510
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Speaker 1: the vaccine. And what if he misses three or four

511
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Speaker 1: games throughout the season. He missed a couple last year, Right,

512
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not talking injuries at all. I do

513
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: not if you got injured, rolled an ankle or whatever,

514
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: running around whatever. That's He's been a very very durable

515
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Speaker 1: player beside the one cramping issue last year against the Browns.

516
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Speaker 1: But when you look at like, what if he misses

517
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Speaker 1: two or three games and it costs them the playoffs

518
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Speaker 1: and they haven't signed him to an extension, do you

519
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Speaker 1: think they're just gonna be willing to then give him

520
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Speaker 1: the D fifty million dollars this offseason? Where do you

521
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: think they write it out? Again? What if you're the

522
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Speaker 1: Browns who are run by Paul D. Podesta, who is

523
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Speaker 1: an analytic based individual who comes from baseball where they

524
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: are obsessed with value. That's all they think about is

525
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: how can we get the same player for half the price.

526
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: It is the name of the game in baseball right now?

527
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: How can we platoon two guys instead of giving someone

528
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars a year? Can we find too seven

529
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: million dollar players to do the same job so and

530
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Speaker 1: save ourselves sixteen million dollars? Now, obviously it's a little

531
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Speaker 1: more complicated at quarterback, But do they view Baker Mayfield

532
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: as those guys equal? Hell, we saw Deepodestas several years

533
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: ago and maybe he's proven to be right. They didn't

534
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: view Carson Wentz's top twenty quarterback, So who knows about

535
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Speaker 1: their metrics and their analytic models what they even think

536
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: about Baker? Now, even someone who I wouldn't say it

537
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: was a Baker hater, but I didn't think he was

538
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Speaker 1: gonna be as good as he was last year, and

539
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: he had an impressive season, but I would under no

540
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Speaker 1: circumstances pay him a d fifty million dollars. Now, you

541
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: can always come back, well, John, who are gonna play

542
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: at quarterback? I agree? But do they agree? We're the

543
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: Ravens are a little bit more other chips in the

544
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: middle table table with Lamar? My question, do they view

545
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Speaker 1: Lamar as like a twelve year player. Because the Bills

546
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Speaker 1: not only they draft the guy number seven overall, they

547
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: were one of the only people in the league who

548
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: not only believed in the player, but just that big

549
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: picture like he's gonna take some time, We're gonna figure

550
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: this guy out. He's a little bit of a project.

551
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: We think he can be a star, and in their

552
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: mind he is, and they compensated in that way. Lamar

553
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: has also been a star. I think the question is

554
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Speaker 1: is it sustainable? Is it worth giving him a five

555
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: or six year contract? Can you get ten years out

556
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: of that style of play? And that's why this year

557
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't think they've signed him yet because they wanted

558
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: to see him do it. Well, what if he can't

559
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Speaker 1: stay on the field the whole time because he is

560
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: tested negative, which he already has this year. And then Baker.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how they view it. I do

562
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: know that they are obsessed with numbers. I mean, just

563
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: look at the two guys they have running the organization.

564
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Speaker 1: The general manager, who was a very very progressive numbers

565
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: guy though he did I think play in the IVY League,

566
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Speaker 1: and Deepodesta, who I also think did also play football

567
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: in the IVY League. I mean, these guys are really,

568
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: really smart. They've built an excellent team, But do they

569
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Speaker 1: view Baker Mayfield as worth as much money as Josh Allen,

570
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Speaker 1: Because I think those two teams have proven right now

571
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Speaker 1: they don't or those deals would be signed. You're telling

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Speaker 1: me Baker Mayfields turned down a hundred fifty million dollars guaranteed,

573
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jacksons turned down a hundred fifty million dollars guaranteed,

574
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Speaker 1: zero chance. I think it's I think it's fair to

575
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Speaker 1: assume that those contracts are not on the table for

576
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Speaker 1: those two players. Okay, we talked gambling on this show

577
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Speaker 1: every Thursday. I guess I record on Thursday. You listen

578
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: to it on Friday or Saturday. Last year we did

579
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Speaker 1: a three for the Money. I just picked three games

580
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: they liked, picked them and uh, college or Pro. And

581
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna do something another segment like that this year.

582
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: We actually might have a guy from the Action Network

583
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Speaker 1: come on and give some of his perspective on those games.

584
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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll have him picked the games that We're still

585
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: kind of working those out. But I love to gamble,

586
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: and I've said over and over a lot of people

587
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: in the media space are gonna try to fake it

588
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: to you. Let's face it, if you follow some of

589
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: the people in in sports media on social media, they're

590
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: scared of their own shadow. And now you think you're

591
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: gonna gamble on games, give me a break. I I

592
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: think one thing is going to separate people in this space.

593
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: And I don't even claim to like be in the

594
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Speaker 1: gambling space. I just talk about gambling because I talk

595
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: about football and watch football because I gamble, not because

596
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: I like want to be, you know, the next I

597
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: don't even know who the guy would be, Stu Finer

598
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. That's not my stick, and not claiming they'd

599
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: have a stick. But like I talk about gambling, when

600
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I talk about gambling, because I might gamble in the game,

601
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: because I might put some money on the game, like

602
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: it's it's real. And I think a lot of people

603
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: are gonna try to dip their toes in the water

604
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: because there's money to be made there and fake it.

605
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: And I think those people will get exposed with time.

606
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: But I was thinking about a philosophy this season. I

607
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,239
Speaker 1: was reading Peter King and listen, I I wouldn't if

608
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: I didn't have to mention COVID COVID protocols vaccines. Ever again,

609
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: I would sign up for that right now. I don't

610
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: think my my philosophy on this. I think you and

611
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: I know myself. Everywhere we've turned for eighteen months, we

612
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: are just inundated with that talk. I think we can

613
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: all agree it gets exhausting. It's it's September two thousand one.

614
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 1: Whatever your opinion is on that at this point ain't changing, right.

615
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: So too many people also in this space love getting

616
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: on their morale high horse and talking, like talking down

617
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: to people or forcing their views on people's Like guys,

618
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: the people think what they think at this point, like

619
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: this is not March two, We're almost in two thousand

620
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Speaker 1: twenty two. So I I try to avoid it at

621
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: all times. Sometimes it's impossible, Right if Lamar Jackson misses

622
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: two weeks because he tested positive, like, it's gonna be

623
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: hard to avoid that topic. But I'm not gonna get

624
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: up here in rant and rave against Carson Wentz because honestly,

625
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship. He can do whatever he

626
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: wants to do. Now if he misses a game, right,

627
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: then we'll have to talk about it. But one thing

628
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: that's inevitable, I think some of these guys are gonna

629
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: miss some games, and we have several star quarterbacks that

630
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: don't have the shot and reading Peter King like, there

631
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: are some hard fast rules in the NFL if you're

632
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: unvaccinated and test positive, you know, or contact tracing like automatic.

633
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: If you test positive ten days, bye bye, contact tracing

634
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: automatic five days bye bye. That's that's automatic. There is

635
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: no negotiation with that, like it's set. It was negotiated

636
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: with the union. I had someone DMN me the other

637
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,239
Speaker 1: day like, why are they testing vaccinated players? I'm like

638
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: that you think the league this all they care about

639
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Speaker 1: is money. They're not running a charity. But this is

640
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Speaker 1: where I crushed Urban Meyer last week. They are in

641
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Speaker 1: business with the union. These testing uh protocols exist because

642
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: you deal with the union. That's why. You know, if

643
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Speaker 1: the league didn't have the text a vascinated player for

644
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: a month, they'd probably signed up for that. But that

645
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Speaker 1: you have to do deals with the union, just like

646
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Speaker 1: a million different industries do. So it's not you can't

647
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Speaker 1: just you know, universally decide on rules without getting them

648
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Speaker 1: to sign off on it, because they represent the workforce,

649
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: at least the workforce that matters. Obviously there's you know,

650
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Speaker 1: salespeople and other people, but I'm talking about the players.

651
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna gamble on games, and you can

652
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: obviously you know, lines come out for the next week,

653
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Speaker 1: you know, right after the game, sometimes on Sunday. I mean,

654
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: they can come out, you can get them even before then.

655
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Speaker 1: But I'd say some people make bets throughout the week

656
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Speaker 1: leading into the weekend. If you see a line that

657
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Speaker 1: you like, I don't know if you're gonna be able

658
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: to do that this year. Let's just say you see

659
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Speaker 1: a game and you go, damn, that team is getting

660
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Speaker 1: eight points. I'm gonna hammer them. And then all of

661
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, let's say it's like the Vikings play in

662
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay or something, and the Vikings that look shitty,

663
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: You're like, god, that's pretty good value. And then all

664
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, Kirk Cousins on Thursday is not going

665
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Speaker 1: to be able to play on Sunday. I do not

666
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: think you're gonna be able to And this works for

667
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Speaker 1: vaccinated players too. My philosophy this year for sports gamble,

668
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: but specifically football gambling, I would wait up until the

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Speaker 1: day of the game. I would wait. If you're gonna

670
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: gamble on Thursday, Sunday or Monday, wait till game day

671
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: to place your bet, because that's the only way to

672
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: be safe because at any moment, and it's mainly quarterback

673
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: and Colin has been hammering this home for a long

674
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Speaker 1: time that quarterbacks are typically the only thing that looke

675
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: moves the line, right. It happened forever with the Patriots,

676
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: like Gronkowski would get injured and all of a sudden,

677
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: you be like, oh, that's gonna cost them like five points.

678
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: The line wouldn't budge, But if you move took Tom

679
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: Brady out, I mean it'd be a ten point swing.

680
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: Happened with Dac last year. It happens with quarterbacks. Quarterbacks

681
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: move the line they because they do. Because we've seen

682
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: it year after year after year. The difference between starting quarterbacks,

683
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: especially like top fifteen quarterbacks and their backup is like

684
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: the size of the Grand Canyon. So if you're gonna

685
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Speaker 1: put whatever amount of money you put on the games,

686
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Speaker 1: because here's the thing that I know this, I see

687
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Speaker 1: the numbers, you guys bet, I would wait till game day.

688
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Speaker 1: It's just not worth it to get yourself into a

689
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Speaker 1: position where you bet on a team and all of

690
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: a sudden the quarterbacks out. You're like, uh, think about

691
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Speaker 1: the Broncos last year. Now, that's worst case scenario. They

692
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: played a game without a quarterback. They played a game

693
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Speaker 1: without a quarterback. They took a practice squad wide receiver

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Speaker 1: and put them at quarterback. And it was a joke.

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course it was. It looked exactly like

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Speaker 1: what you think it would look like. That is going

697
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: to happen again. Even though it's two thousand one and

698
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: we would like to move on from this, that's clearly

699
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Speaker 1: not the case. It's still part of our world, right.

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Speaker 1: So my recommendation is just wait till game day before

701
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Speaker 1: you put money on the game. That is going to

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Speaker 1: be my philosophy. In two I got three quarterbacks this week.

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Speaker 1: You know, come Sunday that I am fascinated to have

704
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: an opinion on three guys that are you know, are

705
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: they going to change our opinions that we already have

706
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Speaker 1: on them? Because I think three players, I think there

707
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 1: are three of the more polarizing guys in the league

708
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Speaker 1: right now. Starting first and foremost is what Carson Wentz

709
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Speaker 1: from a football perspective. He was terrible last year. He

710
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Speaker 1: was awful. He was easily to me a bottom two

711
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Speaker 1: or three quarterback in the league, But the majority of

712
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Speaker 1: weeks he might have been the worst starting quarterback on

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Speaker 1: a given week of the starters. I'm not counting when

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo got hurt and c. G. Bath and those

715
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Speaker 1: type guys started. I'm talking true starters week one. I

716
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Speaker 1: thought he was the worst starter as the season went on. Now,

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Speaker 1: we've never disputed his physical gifts, but playing quarterback, especially

718
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: once you get years old, is about more than just

719
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: throwing the ball hard and throwing the ball for He

720
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: had no touch. He had terrible decision making. He was

721
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Speaker 1: turning the ball over like Jamis who will get into

722
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: here in a second. Can Frank turn his career around?

723
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Speaker 1: Is it just as simple as you know? Frank really

724
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: likes him, Frank really believes in him. Carson is comfortable.

725
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Speaker 1: Maybe Philadelphia was a little much for him. Maybe whatever reason,

726
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: the locker room just bad fit. I don't know. I

727
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: don't have the answers, and obviously I know a lot

728
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: of people in Philly. No one really had the answers.

729
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: It's one of the more bizarre things we've ever seen.

730
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Speaker 1: A guy that several years removed from looking like an

731
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Speaker 1: m v P with all this talent then just sucking.

732
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Speaker 1: And that's what he did. He sucked. So this guy

733
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: gonna be good now. It's not like he's had a

734
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: smooth training camp, right. He broke his foot we think

735
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: or whatever that weird injury was. Somehow it was gonna

736
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Speaker 1: miss a bunch of games, but somehow he came back early.

737
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Speaker 1: Then he got Corona. We think Mattic just tested positive

738
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Speaker 1: or negative. Who even knows anymore, but it sure looks

739
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: like he's gonna play Week one. It's gonna look any

740
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Speaker 1: good because last time I checked, they got a pretty

741
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: tough game Sale Seahawks, Russell Wilson, all those guys like

742
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: it's it's a big boy game. So actually one of

743
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: the better games on paper this week. It's probably a

744
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: top two or three game on paper by far. I'd

745
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: probably have Brown's Chiefs one that might be too, so

746
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: I I'm fired up. The game I might have three

747
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 1: is Miami New England. That game is fantastic and Mac

748
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: like he might struggle, he might be awesome. He's a rookie,

749
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Speaker 1: so like I I can live, He's gonna ebb and flow.

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00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: It's just a natural reaction and just everything's not gonna

751
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: be smooth. Whether he struggles week one, whether he's awesome

752
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: week one, it's just part of playing the position, unless

753
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Speaker 1: you're justin Herbert. But even that, you know he wasn't

754
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: playing in front of fans. It's gonna be difficult on

755
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: given weeks. He's gonna look awesome on given weeks. He's

756
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: got a great coach and he's got a good team.

757
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: To me, the most polarizing guy in that game is

758
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Speaker 1: to a tongola. I mean, as we talked about last week,

759
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: the head coach had to tell the team like, we're

760
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: not trading for Deshaun Watson with to a standin right there.

761
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: They just grafted the guy number five overall. He was

762
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: viewed as one of the best college quarterbacks in like

763
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: the last decade, and now he just sucks. And I

764
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Speaker 1: would lean like, yeah, maybe he's just not any good.

765
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Speaker 1: I don't know, that's happened before, it's gonna happen again.

766
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Speaker 1: He's smaller, doesn't have a great arm uh. I mean,

767
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: he has a defensive head coach, so maybe maybe it

768
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: is just just ruggle. But to me, if mac Jones

769
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: outplaces to uh, that's not ideal. It's just not because

770
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: that narrative will only grow and it's not to me,

771
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: some fake narrative now, it's just based on what he played. Now,

772
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: if your argument is, well, he was coming back off

773
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: a major injury, that's fair. But what we saw last

774
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: year as a player was not good, and it's not

775
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: You don't even need to hear anyone's opinion on it.

776
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: Just watch what they did. They kept pulling him out

777
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Speaker 1: of games because he wasn't very good, whether it be

778
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Speaker 1: the Raider game or the Bronco game. He got yanked

779
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Speaker 1: for Fitzpatrick, who was clearly a much better player than him.

780
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Speaker 1: And then to me, the last guy, just someone I

781
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Speaker 1: just in fascinated to keep an eye on, is famous

782
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Speaker 1: Jamis is Jameis Winston, who was drafted number one overall.

783
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: And then arians got there. We're like, okay, we might

784
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Speaker 1: see what he's got. Throws all those interceptions. They upgrade

785
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Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, which was a no brainer. He goes

786
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Speaker 1: to resurrect his career as a backup, just learning behind

787
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees. Drew retires, he earned the job the following

788
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: year because the hybrid guy just isn't good enough. Which

789
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: is the right move make you know, takes them just

790
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: play offense as a you know whatever his quote unquote

791
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: position is on the field with Jamis. But can Jamis

792
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: be good? Is Jamie's a good enough quarterback with the

793
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: top five head coach and a really good roster to

794
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: have a team competing for the playoffs that to win

795
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Speaker 1: ten eleven games and in the regular season. I don't

796
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Speaker 1: know the answer to that, but I know this, I

797
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: am fascinated to watch it play out. So to me,

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Speaker 1: Wentz and TWA and Jamis are three guys that I

799
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Speaker 1: can't wait to watch play this weekend. Okay, Middlecoff mail

800
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Speaker 1: Bag at John Middlecoff the last Middlecoff mail Bag until

801
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: football is back well the NFL. Like I said, college

802
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: football is back sport in Alabama. Hat I think you

803
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Speaker 1: can the volume sports on YouTube everything's we're recording it

804
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Speaker 1: now Modern Day two YouTube as well as uh as

805
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Speaker 1: the podcast. So let let's go through some questions. The

806
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: Miami guy is uh is this guy's use your name

807
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: going in on the listener questions Last week, I put

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Speaker 1: coaches in the five categories Elite, Belichick, Saban, We're mixed

809
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Speaker 1: in college and pros and Andy, talent maximizers, low ceiling,

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Speaker 1: high floor guys, Tomlin, Matt Campbell, Kyle Whittingham, solid, Brian,

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Speaker 1: Kelly McVeigh, Carol, underachievers, Gruden, Peyton, Gundy, Helton. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: ap up on the brakes there. In what world can

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Speaker 1: you put Sean Payton with John Gruden, Mike Gundy, and

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Speaker 1: Clay Hilton. Sean Payton winning the playoffs last year, won

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Speaker 1: a game as big going to the playoffs like all

816
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Speaker 1: decade long. He's a super Bowl champion. I know Gruden

817
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Speaker 1: is too, but Gruden hasn't won anything for like fifteen years.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton has been winning consistently, winning can assistantly. I

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Speaker 1: would put Sean Payton in a higher category my gundee,

820
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Speaker 1: Gruden Hilton. I mean, Gruden's not winning anything. My gunde

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Speaker 1: at least winning eight nine games a year. Clay Hilton,

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Speaker 1: I just kind of feel bad for him. Bums guys

823
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Speaker 1: that get lucky or our train wrecks like gaze. Do

824
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: you think there's a bigger gap in college or NFL coaches? Uh?

825
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Speaker 1: I think there's a bigger gap in the NFL because

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Speaker 1: you can be a really good coach in college at

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Speaker 1: a program where you don't get the elite guys, and

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Speaker 1: it's you just can't beat Alabama or Clemson or Ohio

829
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Speaker 1: State in the NFL like we're all getting to. I mean,

830
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Speaker 1: obviously quarterbacks changed team to team, but we all get

831
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Speaker 1: one first round pick, we all have an unlimited amount

832
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Speaker 1: of money. Uh, it's easier to be a big time coach, right,

833
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: It's just in college. If I'm in the SEC and

834
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Speaker 1: I'm an elite coach like Dan Mullin, who's really really good,

835
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Speaker 1: he had a ceiling at Mississippi State. He can win

836
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Speaker 1: a national championship in Florida. He never could at Missippi State.

837
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Speaker 1: Was impossible. It's why I think, like I know Sark

838
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Speaker 1: one and I said that that game against Louisiana Lafayette,

839
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: he kicked their ass. Maybe their team is just really good.

840
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: Maybe Stark's a different guy. But the Stark I had

841
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: seen him at Washington, who has made the playoffs in

842
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Speaker 1: USC who's a big time program not achieve Right, It's

843
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult for Lane to beat Georgia and

844
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Speaker 1: in Alabama at all miss consistently. Can he upset them once? Maybe?

845
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Speaker 1: Can he ever win the Division we'll go to the

846
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: SEC championship game. Probably not so. I would say it's

847
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: much more difficult two punch above your weight consistently in

848
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Speaker 1: college than it is in the pros. If I'm a

849
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: dynamic coach in the pros, I'm winning games, period, point blank.

850
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: Love the pod. Old St. Louis f Rams fan, Do

851
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: you think St. Louis gets a team again? If not,

852
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: what city will be next? Which current city is likely

853
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: to lose theirs. Here's the thing with St. Louis is,

854
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: you guys did steal the team for l A. Right

855
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: that you guys took the team. So it was not

856
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: like your team, right, like the Chicago Bears or the

857
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: New York Giants, Right, you took that team in the

858
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: mid nineties, So they just l A just stole their

859
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: team back. You did take them, And I'm not I'm

860
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: indifferent on the ramps like I i'd be. I understand

861
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. I'd be pissed if I was

862
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: a Rams fan and they took my team from St. Louis.

863
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: I I get it, But I do think you need

864
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: to take a step back and go you know, we

865
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: did steal him, right, You can't be shocked if you

866
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: meet your wife in a strip club, she ends up

867
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: cheating on you, right, or if you're you know, you

868
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: see this happen sometimes when someone like you know, we

869
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: were together with someone else and we started sleeping with

870
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: each other, and then we ended up getting together and

871
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: then like some shady happens is your relationship later on,

872
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: Like you you kind of signed up in a shady

873
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: way to get the team in the first place. That

874
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: was kind of a mean swipe at strippers. I actually

875
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: think strippers got a rod deal in places like California

876
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: where I live when the lockdowns happened, like no one

877
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: cared about them. They had to earn a living too,

878
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: So when you shut down their business, um, you know

879
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: it's I felt bad for him. I don't think you

880
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: get an unemployment benefits benefit of tips, do you, But

881
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the wrong guy. I've never worked in a

882
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: tip oriented business, which sucks because you know, when you're

883
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: not making much money, it's one thing if you make

884
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: like thirty K, but like with tips you can get

885
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: up to like sixty You're like, okay, well whatever. When

886
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: you work in football and you make nothing, that's just

887
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: all you make is nothing. You know, you don't get

888
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: to do like side projects or or extra benefits like

889
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: that's just that's the cash. So I'm pro stripper, So

890
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: I would say I don't think there's gonna be any

891
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: I think the teams are kind of where they're at, Like,

892
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that we're gonna see much change that

893
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: there's not there's no expansion coming. What major city in

894
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: America doesn't have a team right now? You know, Vegas

895
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: just got one, l A got one again. I I

896
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: think we kind of got what we got. I think

897
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: the only question mark would be if we take the

898
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Jags and we put them in in Europe or London.

899
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: From Philly and big fan of the pod, appreciate all

900
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: the stories, uh your time with the birds. My question

901
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: is which coordinator in the NFL offens or defense is

902
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: someone who should be getting a lot of attention but

903
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: isn't an unsung hero. That's a good question to me.

904
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. It has to play out. I think

905
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: the way you look at it is you look at

906
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: it with head coaches that call place. So look at

907
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: it in Kansas City, in New Orleans, in Green Bay,

908
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: in l A, both l A's in San Francisco, like,

909
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: can one of their coordinators have an elite unit, then

910
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: they become a head coaching candidate. Right, Robert Sala became

911
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: an elite defensive coordinator. He got a head coaching job

912
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: once you start calling plays and do a good job.

913
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: When you're head coaches on the other side, I know

914
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: you're the boss of the unit because it's hard to

915
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: be like, well, what about Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVeigh

916
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: or Andy Reid's number two. Well, they're not calling the place.

917
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: So if you're not calling the plays, even if you're

918
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: learning under the guy, it's I actually want you to

919
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: become an offensive coordinator before. I know you're an offensive

920
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: coordinator by title, but if you're not calling the plays,

921
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: are you truly an offensive coordinator? No, you're not, so

922
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: I think it would be on one of those teams

923
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: or you know whoever the defense I guess the defensive

924
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: coordinator is Jack del Rio with Washington. Um. He actually

925
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: did a better job than people would think when he

926
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: was in with the Oakland Raiders. I don't know if

927
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: you would get a head coaching job at this point

928
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: in time, but who knows. I know you are mostly

929
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: a football guy, but would love to hear your elaborate

930
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: a little more on this year's Giant squad. Keep doing you,

931
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: I guess you mean San Franco Giants. Uh, I mean

932
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: they're having they hired the right general manager. Major League

933
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: Baseball is a GM run sport. The coaches are basically

934
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: irrelevant now. Gabe Kapler makes a nine K. He has

935
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: like seventeen coaches on his staff. I bet the majority

936
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: of coaches on Gabe Kapler's staff make like seventy dollars.

937
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: You make up five grand coaching running backs in the SEC.

938
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: Coaching does not matter in baseball anymore. GM's completely run

939
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: the sport from the front office in far anxiety the

940
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: San Franco Giants. GM is elite. He is elite, but

941
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: he he runs the team so and in fairness. Like,

942
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: even I'm not a big Kapler guy, I can't take

943
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: him seriously and I give him zero credit to the

944
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: team this year as a manager, I don't. They don't

945
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: have as much juice. You have to leave relievers in

946
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: for three batters. Like. The best manager I've ever seen

947
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: with my own eyes was Bruce Bocci because he was

948
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: elite in big games with the bullpen mixing and matching,

949
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: get one guy out and then yank the guy and

950
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: bring the next guy in, mix and match right righty, righty,

951
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: lefty lefty. You can't even do that, Like, I'm all

952
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: four speeding up the game. But the three batter minimum

953
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: has kind of changed the sport a little bit, and

954
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: GMS have built their team around. So it's it's a

955
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: GM run sport. You got an elite GM. Which Tampa does,

956
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: the Giants do, the Dodgers do, the Yankees do? Uh,

957
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, all the good teams do. You can win.

958
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: It's just it's just that simple. If you don't, you're

959
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: gonna get the A's They win all the time. Because

960
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: of Billy Vikings fan here, I've had some disagreements recently

961
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: with a friend about Cousins. While yes, I agree Cousins

962
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: is an above average quarterback and the best one we've

963
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: had in a while, and has even shown that he

964
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: can win as a playoff game, I as a fan,

965
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm interested in the business finally seeing the Vikings host

966
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: the Lombardi Trophy, and I just don't think it's a

967
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: possibility with Cousins. How much longer do you think Minnesota

968
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: is stuck with Cousins as a quarterback one and do

969
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: you think the Vikings should move on as fast as possible?

970
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: Bonus question, what do you think of Kellen mont Well,

971
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: they just gave Cousins an extension last year. Cousins on

972
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: the team another two years. But Cousins is not your problem.

973
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: Your problem has been defense. Last year was defense. They've

974
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: been making the playoffs because their offense has been good.

975
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: And two years ago, when you guys upset the Saints

976
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: in the first round, which is the crowning Cousins achievement,

977
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: the reason you got, you're asking the next week your

978
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: offensive line sucked. I like Rick Spielman. I think he's

979
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: really good. People I know in the league that know

980
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: him and have been around him think he's a stud.

981
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: But he's He's built some flawed teams. And when you

982
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: have a quarterback who can't move in your offensive line sucks.

983
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to win the playoffs because their

984
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: teams over the years have been pretty good. And also,

985
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: like Zimmer, does Zimmer have a cap? I think Zimmer

986
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: is a good coach, but is he like a dynamic coach?

987
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: You know, he's a defensive guy, so he can't he

988
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: has no impact on the offense. I don't know. I mean,

989
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: I think it's easy to blame Cousins, but to me,

990
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: Cousins has produced better and Zimmer better in their offensive

991
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: line the last couple of years. It's I think we

992
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: gotta be careful where we placed the blame messaging from

993
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: Suk BC, small town, West Coast, Vancouver Island. I love

994
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: uh British Columbia. Vancouver one of the more beautiful cities

995
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: in North America. I went there once for a scouting trip.

996
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: I scouted the beat, this defensive linement on the BC Lions,

997
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: I think probably a decade ago, like in two thousand

998
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: and eleven, and I got there like a day earlier.

999
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, this place is freaking amazing. I had been

1000
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: there once Whistler in college. I went on a ski

1001
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: trip over the winter, but like, we just got so

1002
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: wasted and flew in. He didn't. I didn't go to Vancouver.

1003
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: We just flew in, got on buses and they took

1004
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: us up to Whistler. And the problem with Whistler there

1005
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: wasn't any snow, so it actually wasn't that cool, even

1006
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: though it was really gorgeous. But when I went to

1007
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: Vancouver at that place is badass. Quick question. Although they

1008
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: have not played a single rep. I wonder if you

1009
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: have an opinion of who will have the more successful career,

1010
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: Tray Lance or Trevor Lawrence. Well, Trevor Lawrence is the

1011
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: much better player. Any human alive would take Trevor Lawrence

1012
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: over Trey Lance. But the NFL is a coaching league.

1013
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: I think urban Meyer might not last two seasons in

1014
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: Jacksonville if it goes it gets really ugly, which it might.

1015
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: I envisioned him quitting. He's done it before. Why wouldn't

1016
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: he do it again. He's quit twice, quit an Ohio state,

1017
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: definitely quit on Florida. So you don't think I mean,

1018
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't need the money he's doing. This is an

1019
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: ego play to prove that he can do it this

1020
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: play and partly money he's getting paid. I'm sure twelve

1021
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. He already has an unlimited amount

1022
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: of money. Urban Meyer might have like eighty million dollars

1023
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: in the bank. Now. I don't know what his financials are.

1024
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: Maybe he's hurting for cash, but this is to me

1025
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: to prove that he belongs right, to prove that he

1026
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: can hang with the big boys. Well he might not.

1027
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: He might just be one of the all time great

1028
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: college coaches and that's where he belongs. Like Steve Spurrier,

1029
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: now they are much different personalities. But what if he

1030
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: quits and then Trevor Lawrence, who's their next coach? I

1031
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: don't know. But if he's not good, so to me,

1032
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: I would just say I would always bet on the

1033
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: better coach. I would rather have Trevor Lawrence. But Kyle

1034
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: Shannion is going nowhere. And I know Kyle Shanahan, unlike

1035
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, like caw Shannon calls the place. Kyle Shanahan

1036
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: is basically the quarterback coach. The offense is his baby.

1037
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: What's Urban's baby in Jacksonville? The quote unquote culture. He's

1038
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: not calling offensive place. You know, he might be picking

1039
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: the players, but this isn't the this isn't Ohio State.

1040
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: You don't have an unlimited amount of first round picks.

1041
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: Do we? Sure we know what he's doing when it

1042
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: comes to the draft. He took Travis e Tn in

1043
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: the first round this year when their best player on

1044
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: their team was arguably They're running back. What the hell

1045
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: was he doing? So? I I have little to no

1046
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: faith in urban Meyer, So I would be bet on

1047
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: Trey Lance, even though he's got a long way to go,

1048
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: just because of Kyle Shanon. If we were in college,

1049
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: I would bet on whoever urban Meyer had. But we're

1050
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: in the pros. We play on Sundays in this league.

1051
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: Right we see Urbans swimming in the deep end now

1052
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: and he's you know, the floaters can they keep him up?

1053
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: We don't know. He might just fall under. I I

1054
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: know Kyle can swim in the deep end. Took a

1055
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: team to the super Bowl two years ago. Urban might

1056
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: not be able to win five games in the NFL,

1057
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: and and I think Trevor will end up taking some

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Speaker 1: collateral damage there, taking some trapnel. But it might not

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Speaker 1: be his fault. He just might. I mean, he's arguably

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Speaker 1: playing for one of the worst organizations in all of sports.

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Speaker 1: The Jags are a joke. And if people of d

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Speaker 1: m me before about con, I guess his soccer teams

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Speaker 1: are sucked too. For a guy that's a great business

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Speaker 1: guy and made all this money, every sports team he

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Speaker 1: owns loses like that has to be some reflection of

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Speaker 1: something that he's doing. So I would bet on Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: Strictly because the coach, not because I view him as

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Speaker 1: a better player. Situation in business matters, Timing matters, who's

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Speaker 1: leading you matters, who's running whatever business you're in matters,

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Speaker 1: And I just I just trust the group in San

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Speaker 1: Francisco much more than the one in Jacksonville. Appreciate everyone

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Speaker 1: uh firing in those d m s. Thanks everyone for

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Speaker 1: listening to the volume, keep sharing it with your friends,

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Speaker 1: and just excited for football to be back. It's exciting

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Speaker 1: time of year. There's nothing better than early on in

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Speaker 1: the fall. You just you just end up smiling a

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Speaker 1: lot more. It's just a happier time. Even even when

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Speaker 1: all the radical miserable people want to bring you down.

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Speaker 1: We just turn off us football people. We just started

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Speaker 1: off football and they just can't get to us. We're

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Speaker 1: just like now, we're too happy. You're not messing with me,

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Speaker 1: You're not bringing me down to your miserable level. So

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Speaker 1: so enjoy the week, get ready for football, and I

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Speaker 1: will talk to you after the Tampa Dallas game. Let's

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Speaker 1: go the volume