WEBVTT - Ryan Hurd & Ernest 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.400 This episode of Busting with the Boys. The Boys is 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:06.479 presented by Barstool Sports. All right, we're busting with the boys. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.960 There's no real there we go. I see the excitement 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.520 back there. We don't have We don't really do many 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:14.640 like just straight in like intros. See, we don't gotta 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:16.320 wait for me to be like, Okay, this is busting 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.319 with the boys. You do this, blah blah blah. Have 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:20.160 you listened to us? 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.720 I love I love love the pod. Dude. 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.200 Let's go, hey boys, there we go with some energy. 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.320 I was the delaining one, was the one that got 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:31.400 me hooked. So oh that was our first one. That 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.520 was just just that dude. Is he not like that's 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:36.600 awesome because you see him around town, like he'll go 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:38.919 out to dinner and have like his people and like 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:40.760 I so you see that dude out. I've seen him 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.239 like at Red Door, and I've seen him at like 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:43.960 on the you know East Side. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:46.960 Was that Ernest? Is that Ernest? 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:49.080 We got Ernest? 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:55.000 Ernest? Ernest Keith always call him know he's about to 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.760 crash the pod in this case Smith, but this is 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.000 gonna be a great pod. We got Ryan Hurd, We 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.960 got Ernest about the crash. We got country music all 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.520 over the place. You have something, you have something coming 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:06.280 out soon, don't you. Yeah, man, I have an EP 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.400 coming out on on Friday. So that's the I don't 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.800 know what I am lost on dates and days, but yeah, 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.240 whenever this comes out, we don't know. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.520 Yet twenty sixth of June, so that when it is Friday, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:18.360 two days now. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:20.679 Explain this is gonna be a stupid question. Explain to 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:22.480 me what EP means, Like, why is that so? 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:23.120 EP is? 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:23.479 Album? 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.479 Is all right? In music back in the day when 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:28.880 you were making records, you'd have like forty fives and 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:33.920 you'd have like thirty threes and seventy eight's, but they abbreviated, 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:38.240 uh EP. It means extended play, but for some reason 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.759 we use it to say a shorter album. So basically 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.959 EP is usually like a four, five, six song record 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.080 that you put out and you know, because you know, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.480 it takes, you know, so much of a marketing push 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.840 to put out like a full like twelve song album 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.040 and just it's really expensive to do it. A lot 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.160 of times newer artists like me put out, you know, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.640 a four or five song collection just to like get 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.560 new mus out there. And to like build a brand 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.639 and to build a fan base. But this one's different 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.800 because I've put out like three original ones, but this 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.440 one is like kind of B sides and alternate versions 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.440 of songs because I when I got to Nashville, I 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.560 went to college at Belmont, but I started writing songs 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.480 for other people. So that's been my job here for 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.120 eight years, nine years now. And then I've along the 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.720 way gotten a record deal and started like pushing my 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.839 own music out at the same time. But this EP 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.560 that comes out on Friday is songs that I've written 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.320 for other people with my voice on them. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:41.600 So songs that So you're saying, you've already written these 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.799 songs for other people and they've already been put out, Yeah, 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.760 and now they're going to be in your voice because 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:46.320 you wrote them. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:48.640 Sure, they're like hits I've written for other people. And 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.239 then a live version of a song that is on 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.120 one of my records called Wish for the World is 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.079 on there. And then it's just all recordings of songs 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:57.359 I've written for other people. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.480 So we'll back up to you said nine years ago 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:04.720 you started writing in Nashville, So when you're writing songs 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.240 for other people, and then you start getting your own gigs. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.400 How are you implementing yourself as you're writing songs for 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.679 other people and all this is just killer? Are you 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.680 kind of like a could I sing it? 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.840 Maybe? I don't know. Man, it's so hard to get 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.520 your song recorded by somebody else that you sort of 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.960 when it happens, it's just a massive victory. So I 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:28.040 look at what I do in Nashville, it's like two 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.120 different shoes. It's like I got a right foot in 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.320 the left foot, and I can't really imagine doing one 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.040 without the other. Because like a lot of people have 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.840 found out about me as a as an artist because 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.040 of the songs I've written for other people. And then 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:42.600 on the other side of that, a lot of artists 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.680 that I've toured with and stuff have I've had a 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.200 lot of opportunities to like write with and for them 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.800 because they've you know, seen me as an artist and liked, 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.880 like to a tea or something that I've put out 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.040 like on my own name. So they sort of like 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.680 feed each other like weirdly like separate businesses, but they 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.200 are really complimentary. 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.240 So were you was your goal when you were starting 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.160 to like obviously be a musician a singer where you 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.960 are now? But when you're writing at first, or is 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.000 that something that you're just separating the entire time, Like 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.000 you weren't expecting somebody to be like, hey, you seem 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:15.040 like you got a nice voice? 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.040 Now? Was the other way around? I wanted to be 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.360 a writer because I just think it's the coolest job 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.440 in the world. Man, Oh really, Yeah. I wanted to 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.680 write songs because when I got here, I was like, 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.440 wait a minute, there's people who just write the songs. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.640 They don't have to tour, they don't have to And 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.280 I wasn't. I didn't like find my singing voice really 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.160 until I was like a couple of years into my writing, 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.960 I don't think, because it's mostly like singing is just 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.839 about style. Yeah, I mean some people can rip. Like 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.600 my wife is Maren Morris, and she's just like obviously a. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.479 Very yeah, she's like that, she's like the stud. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.560 Yeah, she can sing. She's got like one of those 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.640 voices that's like, well that's not normal. That's but for 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.560 guys like me most I think most people who work 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.800 in country music, it's like you sort of are more 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.359 of a stylist than a vocalist. Half the time. So like, 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.960 I didn't find that until I had written some songs 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.039 for other people, and like people started sort of copying 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.200 my voice on their records. And that's when I started 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.400 getting looks from like record companies. And I actually said 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:12.839 no a couple of times. It's like, man, I just 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.360 want to this is getting rolling for me. I just 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.239 want to write stay home. And then so you prefer 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.760 being the writer. Well then eventually I was like, ah, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.920 I gotta try this. Yeah, I don't know, it's cool, man, 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.640 it's hard. I mean a lot of work being the 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.400 artist on that. Like it's the artist part is like 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.760 ninety percent not music, like all. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.159 This stuff that goes in behind somebody. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:38.919 It's not like you're going to go like like I 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.880 don't know, there's not a whole lot of music that 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.400 goes on. It's mostly like doing busting with the boys, 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.040 but not that fun. Yeah, that makes sense. You're doing 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.560 a whole lot of press, and you're doing a whole 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:52.080 lot of like just work with radio stations. But it's 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.120 mostly just like riding on a bus waiting around to play, 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.520 you know. That's what being an artist is, and then 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.479 doing all the press and all this stuff. Around it. 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.919 But when you're a writer, you're one hundred percent creative 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.280 all the time. And that's the coolest part about that, 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.919 and that's you know you do. You don't get like 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.000 the glory of it. You know, you don't like have 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.719 like two thousand people screaming your song back back at 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.440 you when you're the writer. But you get a lot 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.320 of respect in town, and you get obviously. 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:17.720 A lot of respect where it matters the most. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.760 Sure from like those artists and those people in town 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.080 that really respect it. And there's a whole like songwriting 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.440 community that's really special. And so I'm really lucky to 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:27.640 get to do both things. Man, I get to like 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.360 still write songs for other people. I've had a really 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.520 cool year honestly as as a writer, and then had 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.280 my first ever my song to a t went platinum 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.080 like a month ago, which is crazy. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.880 Oh let's go, we got platinum? Boys, Yeah, Zach, where 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.840 you at, Chase? You got to partake in the clapping? 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:48.080 I don't know, you get I don't know if you 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:48.400 get it. 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.960 My tour manager Chases here and he's a huge part 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.520 of everything we do. And but then you know, I 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:57.120 don't know, it's been it's just been a cool sort 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.080 of like this is the balance I've always wanted to 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.080 strike and I find gotten to do that. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.880 That's fucking awesome, dude. I know, uh, like from the 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.440 outside looking in and you talk to people who like Ernest, 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.160 I know he has a lot of respect for writing 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.400 and people who write, but they were they're not like 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:15.480 the voice because when you're I guess uh, ignorant too, 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:18.320 you just think the artist makes this, like they write it, 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.600 they do all this stuff. And then now that since 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.480 I've moved here and you get to talk with people 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.960 like yourself, like Ernest, you realize there's so like a 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.400 lot of those people they just funnel the song and 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.400 they're just kind of the face to to the song 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:31.160 or to the album. 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.880 Hey man, you need a vehicle, right, you need a bus? 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:35.360 Yeah, no doubt. 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.480 I don't know, man, it it's crazy. I know Ernest 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.120 because we have just started writing together, you know, in 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.040 the last year, and he's one of the Honestly, there's 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.320 there's not a lot of people who swing a different hammer. 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.040 Like most people you sit down with, you're like, okay, 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.760 we can write a great song. Every it feels like 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.000 everybody's the same amount of talented, and then you meet 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.559 people like arn Or, like Michael Hardy or or Maren honestly, honestly, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.360 Maren's best songwriter I've ever ever encountered. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:03.760 Your wife. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.120 Yeah, and we started we got we met writing songs, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:11.600 so I believe that way before we were actually together. 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.240 But but like there's those dudes that you meet like 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.920 like arn Or, like Hardy or you're just like, oh 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.239 my god, this guy, this guy. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:20.280 Well they kind of separate. 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.920 I guess they just spit brilliance and you're like, I'm 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.119 just recording you. Like that's what I did with Ernest 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.080 when we wrote a Heartless for Diplo and Morgan Wallen, 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.520 and half of that is just like me like with 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.640 my phone, sticking it in front of Ernest and like 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.480 just recording it so that we could go back and 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.400 make sure we had it down like that and that 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.600 I mean, that dude's just a brilliant guy. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.120 And then you guys are doing that and then you 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.440 kind of give the product to the voice you want 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:49.960 to match. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.640 Man, it's so hard. So we each have called publishers. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.960 They're like record companies for songwriters. They own or they 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.679 are partners with you and in you know your copyright. 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.360 But what they do is they like book your calendar. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.040 So they're like, you know, yesterday I wrote with with 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.000 Hardy and Monday I wrote with a Buddy Matt and 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.400 Ross Kopperman. But like they book a calendar and then 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.240 they take the songs and the demos that you make 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.160 and they pitch them out to artists and labels, and 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:17.920 so they're the ones who are supposed to like exploit 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:22.320 the music and get it recorded. But like, it's just 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:23.720 funny how songs find a way. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:23.959 Man. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.480 It's like, uh, they're all like undrafted free agents. Yeah, 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.280 but I mean it's like how do you like they 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.200 just go through each little step and eventually they like 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.199 a miracle happens. It's like so like oh this sometimes 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.160 I'll send a song to somebody, or I'll write it 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.240 with the artist. And I wrote a song with Kane 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.720 Brown called Worldwide Beautiful, and that's one that just like 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.360 was sort of like a magic like magic, you know 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.280 what I mean. And some days it's magic, but other 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.680 times it's like the song goes through like this manager 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.520 and then like they show the artist and the artist 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.000 holds it and then they record it and then like 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.560 it's like a series of like ten coin flips all 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.240 coming up heads in order to have a hit on 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.200 the radio. And that's like what we're all going for 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.400 is just to like have those big hits. So but 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.520 publishers help with those ten coin flips. 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:18.480 Gotcha. 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.920 You're the ones who get like make sure each step 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:25.640 is they're trying to get the song heard by whoever 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.120 can make decisions to record and put them out. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.200 So gotcha. So that's that's where the importance of like 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:34.800 is the publisher kind of the same as the label. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.680 Yeah, but on the writing side, gotcha, they're Yeah, they're important. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.760 They're awesome, man, signing with those teams, like when people 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.160 sign deals and stuff, because sometimes you wonder, like if 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.440 somebody's very good at music, why would they sign with 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.359 anybody if they can kind of get it out themselves. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.520 So that's that's me thinking that not having any idea. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.960 Honestly, it's easy to do that now and it's ever been. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:58.280 And a lot of these dudes who are like a 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.400 lot of these guys who get it moving on their 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.640 own then partner with a label, like they own a 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:06.680 lot of that stuff. It's like most people the label 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:08.559 owns a lot of the artists to like do like 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.880 a joint venture with the label, so like it's kind 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.079 of swinging back like in favor of the artists now 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.240 in a cool way because of the way people listen 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.400 to music now, because of the Internet, because of. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.400 Some more leverages came to the Oh yeah. 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.360 Okay, so we're but uh man, it's a cool time 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:28.440 to make music, especially in Nashville. Like I everybody feels 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.200 like everybody wants a piece of what we're doing, and 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.520 that's that's really cool. I mean, Maren did the Middle 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:37.400 with z Diplo made a country record. It feels like 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.679 every country artist is getting like a pop artist to 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.120 like feature on their big hits, Like Gabby Barrot just 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:48.160 had Charlie Pooth on hers. So it just it feels 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.880 like Nashville is like in a really great spot as 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.720 a genre. And you know, you could always have all 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.760 these people who like love or don't love what's happening 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.040 on music. Row. I just I'm like a head down guy. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.120 I just put my head down and keep doing my 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.160 thing and don't like read too much about like what's 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.600 country and what's not. But I do love, like I 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.640 do think that we're in a really cool spot as 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.160 a genre and as a just as a creative city, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:16.800 because this is the best music town in the world. 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.640 Oh bar none, there's not. It's not even close to 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.800 me as far as like the songwriting community, the proximity 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.800 that everybody has, and just like the overall talent. I 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.440 just it's amazing how much great music is made here, 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.080 whether you've whether it is released or not. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:39.320 Do you feel like you have much of Like, you know, 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.880 how everybody argues like, oh, this is more country than that, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.800 and like the old days and the new stuff. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.000 I'm not Sturgil and I know it, and that's okay 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:49.840 with me. And you know, there's going to be those 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.320 dudes who just want to listen to that stuff and 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.559 that's great and it's not like a I think that's 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:58.240 absolutely country music, obviously probably more traditional country music than 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.640 what we do. But yeah, you know, that's just so 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:03.240 funny the way that the internet works. It's just all 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:08.599 these like genre lines have blended so much. And I 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.280 don't know, I'm not that worried about that conversation. 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:12.920 Yeah, yeah, So. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.360 I'd love to make like like a really like a 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.840 much more traditional country record at some point, but I've 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.960 sort of gone down this lane now where I get 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.880 to I've sort of created a sound and it's really 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.440 it's created a fan base and I really have enjoyed 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.680 that part of it. And it's not super traditional country 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:35.400 at all. So I'm just never not going to be that. 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.200 I'm not going to win that one. Yeah, and I 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:38.319 know I'm fine with it. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.920 What do you enjoy doing more writing or touring and 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.319 kind of doing the whole musician thing. 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.240 I can't. I don't know. Writing is great until you 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.440 get burnt. And so the fun part about being like 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.679 doing both is that I very rarely get like burnt 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:55.679 out on writing. 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.640 Because when you feel like you're starting to get burned it. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:00.640 As much as I used to used to be like 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.640 when you get going, you're writing like five or six 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.720 songs a week and just you run out of ideas 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:09.400 and sort of get feels like work a little bit 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.520 more like you're trying to force it. Right now, I'm 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.720 writing like two or three a week, and I feel 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.680 like I hit the bulls eye a little bit more. Yeah, 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.839 just because of my mind is fresh and I usually 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:22.520 have ideas and I'm only writing with people that I love. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.120 I'm not trying out a whole new bunch of news. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:27.760 It's just a cool thing to like feel like I 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.040 feel like I'm in my prime a little bit. Yeah, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:34.440 like as a creative person. And I don't know, it's 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:38.320 been cool to uh, it's been cool to like get 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.360 into that spot. But I miss touring, man, I miss 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.520 the people the most. I don't miss airplanes, but I 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:46.320 miss like my bus. Yeah, we we have a cool crew. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.560 And miss my boys, and I miss like obviously, like 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.480 we have a really cool road situation and it's like 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.240 we have like a mixed bus. We have girls and 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:00.080 guys on it. Everybody's working and everybody it's always a 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.600 really like great mood and we just we did it 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.240 like my headline tour. Just I mean the last two 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:10.520 weeks got canceled because of this ship. But I missed 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.640 that and I miss I miss electric guitars. Yes, I 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.920 miss I missed my people though, That's what I miss. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:19.760 Do When when do you get to go on the 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:20.240 road next? 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.560 Or do you know I'm supposed to play Labor Day weekend? 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.760 Chase, what the hell we'll see? Where are we going? 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.840 Tom? Just Chase is just waiting for the same thing 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.160 I'm waiting on. That's exactly right, waiting for somebody to go. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:33.560 You just you just set it up whenever you get 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.520 the green light, exactly Okay. 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.120 Yeah, Chase is a tour manager. So anything that has 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.400 to do with moving me from point A to point 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:41.800 B is Chase's job. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.640 He doesn't he doesn't set up point A and B. 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.520 No, that's booking agents do that. Uh. I have an 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:55.240 agent at William Morris who books all of my live performances. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.520 I wrot the shows. And then you have a manager 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.000 who's sort of like the sea oh oh of what 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.880 you're doing. Yeah, and then there's just so many people involved. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:10.480 You have a record company, agent, manager, what else tour manager? 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:14.640 Is it? Is it dumb to to assume that you 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.520 and your wife, you guys have kind of the same team, 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:17.240 or do you guys? 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:18.520 Actually we do have. 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.360 We have the same managers, Okay, And so you guys 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:23.760 kind of work with like a lot of the same 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:24.440 people we do. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.600 Yeah. Yeah, And our bands are really close, Like we've 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.560 they all worked really closely together. We've toured together quite 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:34.560 a bit, played a lot of the same festivals and 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:39.520 I we were gonna tour this year. I was gonna 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:44.120 open a handful of her like headline shows because we 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.520 just had a baby, and so that's kind of I 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.200 don't know, I didn't really want to be away from 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.960 him all that much. And she obvious. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.920 You got a boy, right, what's his name? His name 0:16:54.960 --> 0:17:00.160 is Hayes Andrew. Shout out Hayes Andrew. When when when 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:01.240 was he? When was he born? 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.520 March twenty third of this year. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.160 So he's a co he's he's a COVID baby. Well, yeah, pandemic. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:10.400 He was born in the pandemic. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.879 Yeah, we were. It was like the first week that 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.640 they had like shut the hospital down. It was crazy 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:20.639 and no visitors, just me and like some people start 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.800 like other places, not here, but like you were hearing 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:27.040 stories about like like Dad's not being able to go 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.879 because of this stuff. Like I don't know, maybe that happened, 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.880 maybe it didn't, but we were terrified and uh, no visitors, 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.919 which actually, looking back, like that's okay, Like it was 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.200 just kind of cool to like be have your moment 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.520 and then like my parents and her parents came over 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.000 like when we got home. But yeah, it was. It 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.640 was terrifying. Man. It's got like doctors wearing like face 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:49.400 shields and shit. 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.720 And like, oh my god, this is not knowing how 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:52.240 serious it. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:56.200 Maybe yeah, yeah, that's it. But it's been it's been cool, man, 0:17:56.240 --> 0:18:00.320 different like we've we've been like really, I don't know. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:01.840 I feel like when you do what we do, we 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.520 don't have to ever have to grow up. And and 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.679 so now it's like we can be we still have 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.320 that lifestyle you have to there's this one little thing 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.439 you have to be responsible for it every day. So 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.120 it's a little bit different, but we're we're figured it out. 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:15.280 Man. 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.159 The cool part about not being able to tour is 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.320 we get to be home for a second, and I 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.840 would have missed some stuff that I'm glad that I 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.000 had time at home for, Like I would have missed 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.720 He's just like little things, man. You like wake up 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:31.960 in the morning and you see him and he's like, 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.560 oh my god, he's bigger. Yeah, And I can't imagine 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.480 like I would have had to do I think three 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.920 weekends now away from them, and I can't imagine like 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:43.720 coming back after one of those weekends and being like, 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.720 oh my god, like he grew so now. But now 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.199 I see him every day and eventually that's not going 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:50.919 to be the case. And we're gonna have to go 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.560 back to life as we need it to be. But 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:54.880 but right now it's cool to be home. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.679 Now, say you and your wife, you guys tour together. 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.600 Will will the baby like tour with you guys. 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:06.720 Yeah, So Maren has a bus that is like fitted 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:11.879 outfitted for a baby. So it's like we have like 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.239 our apartment in the back, and then there's like a 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.720 bunk that has a crib in it and a baby 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:21.919 monitor and a noise machine, and then like the we 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.480 have somebody who like stays next to him and the 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:28.000 bunk across from him because we have to have help 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.280 out there just because there's so much stuff going on. 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.160 And he goes to bed at seven o'clock and rock 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.560 shows don't start till nine, so we have some help 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.720 out there. And then yeah, man, there's some other stuff 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.840 that she got just that's baby specific. 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.040 But yeah, we have a bus that sounds like a 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.159 bus we need to look into boys, an apartment in 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:51.040 the back. Yeah, a baby crib for a tailor. Make 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.680 sure keep a monitor on him. He can't do anything 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:55.000 on his own, you know what I mean. 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.920 That's awesome, Dude's Yeah, my bus is just twelve bunks 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.480 and we go. We i'd town to town and have 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.000 a good time. But yeah, no babies on that one yet, 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:04.959 no dogs or babies. 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.720 It's probably benefits. It's probably a benefit too to touring 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.200 with your wife's because don't people go on the road 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:12.520 and they're gone for hell. I don't know how long. 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:13.880 How long is like an average tour. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.800 I mean we well in Nashville, it's different because we 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:18.920 can do weekends because we're in the middle of the country. 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:21.600 So yeah, we usually do like a ten day run 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.800 out west ten to fourteen days like West Coast. Yeah, 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:28.000 and then we'll do like Maren will do like a 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:32.480 ten day Europe run a lot like every year every 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.359 other year. But that's basically it. So then we can 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:40.160 leave most of the time like Wednesday night, play Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:44.359 be home Sunday. That's generally the rhythm that people in 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.919 Nashville have except for with the exception of West Coast 0:20:48.000 --> 0:20:50.720 and Europe. And then these people have been playing like 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:55.400 festivals in Australia too, which is a long way to go. 0:20:56.320 --> 0:21:00.200 So I haven't done that yet, but maybe we will someday. 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:01.320 That's dope, man. 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:03.760 This episode of Busting with the Boys is brought to 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.240 you by Whoop and I am stoked that Woop is 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:08.920 on board and sponsoring the Boys because it makes the 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.320 most sense for our podcast being an athlete being athletes, 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:16.160 and Whoop being the best fitness tracker in the game. 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.960 They're partnered with the NFLPA, so everybody in the NFL 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:22.399 gets a free Whoop strap or gets strapped with a Whoop. 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:24.920 Everyone in the PGA Tour is strapped with a Whoop 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.520 because it measures your respiratory rate, so people are wearing 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.840 the Whoop strap to help determine early signs of COVID. 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.800 The shit is awesome. 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It's taken a 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:41.840 couple of years, but I feel like we have a 0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:45.760 really cool rhythm with uh just being like creative partners 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.560 and because and and actually like having a marriage and 0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:51.840 a kid. It's been, Uh, it's been fun to find 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:52.679 those balances. 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:54.680 What are some uh, what are some of the times 0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.280 where you guys head butt in the music world, whether 0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.480 it be touring, writing with or for each other, like 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:02.840 any of that stuff. Give me a moment where it's 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.080 not all smelling roses. 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.119 We still write together, which is cool. I'm excited that 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.480 she still asked me to write songs with her because 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.960 she's got a really small group now that she trusts 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:17.240 to be creative with I don't know, like creatively, I 0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:23.000 kind of just am there when it's always time. It's 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:30.000 always just about time and like when just calendar stuff. 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.520 And that's why we have the same manager is like 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:37.160 those those like frictions are minimized when you have one 0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.840 person managing both of our time. Yeah, but like it's 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:46.880 always like just getting on the same page time wise. 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.200 Have either of you have ever said that's a stupid lyric. 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:54.160 I don't think we've said it like that to each other. 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.359 I say that to it. I would say it to 0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:58.960 someone like Earn be like, no, that's not it. But 0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:01.399 I say it about myself more than anything. Usually I'm like, 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:05.399 you'll say somebody like that's not right. Yeah, but uh yeah, man, 0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:10.880 that we that she's just a fantastic songwriter. And that's 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.240 like where it all starts with everybody is like getting 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.320 good songs, whether you write them or you find them, 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:21.720 like that always is the most important thing because that's 0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:23.720 I mean, that's why people buy ticket is to hear 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:24.920 that song that they love. 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:25.639 Yeah. 0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.000 You know, me and Ern are sort of in the 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.880 same boat where it's like we we have a lot 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.920 of ship moving as writers. Right now, we're both trying 0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:35.879 to get like over that hump as you where is 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:38.560 he's out there drinking beer in the parking lot and 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.800 he didn't get him and he didn't bring me one. 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.399 This could be a good conversation about the writing world 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:45.720 because they've written, they wrote together. 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.800 We're in the same boat where it's like we're both 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.399 just looking at each other, like how fuck do you 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:50.080 get on the radio? 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.120 Yeah, what's what's one of your favorite memories on the road? 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.199 What do you think favorite memories? 0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:01.720 Well? 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:06.000 See, like I my rhythm is like I wake up 0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.800 and then you like work out because there's like no 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:10.440 like you just wake up and then you tell you 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:14.280 at night, like nine o'clock at night, so you work out, 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:19.240 eat lunch. But like I can't party until the show's 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.920 over for the most part, So like I just remember 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.880 this whole tour we just did. Like I'd come back 0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:26.960 to the bus and my band has worked all day 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.600 and I'd want to party and they'd be like too tire. 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:32.119 They just go to bed, and I'm like, what are we? 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:36.080 What is this? So I I just remember, like nobody 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:40.160 wants to party anymore. But I don't know. I've had 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.280 a I've I've been on the road with like FGL 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:44.919 and Thomas Rhett, who's. 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.480 Been the most fun to be on the road with. Hey, 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.719 keep keep keep name dropping too. Rattle that list off 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:50.919 again so we can find a winner. 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:55.160 I've been on the road with tr FGL, Chase Rice 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.359 just like as like part of their packages. Hey, buddy, 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.200 how are you sorry? 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:03.680 What ready to go? 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:05.920 Did you bring me a beer? 0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.480 I drink too and I locked my car. I can 0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:11.639 get you you want a Corona, but this is a 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:12.840 Budweiser bus. 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:13.800 This is. 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:17.920 What kind of we aren't we are? We aren't sponsored 0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.800 by him though, so you can could we can talk 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:21.439 about whatever. 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.280 I was sponsored by Corona for a while. It was fun. 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:26.720 One of the coolest moments was like pulling up into 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:31.040 the driveway and there was a palette of Corona there. 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:34.440 It was like twenty five cases of Corona in bottles 0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.840 and we drank like four or five in two days, 0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:41.040 but maybe more but cases. But yeah, it was like 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.760 that was one of my biggest flexs on That was 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.800 my That was my biggest flex was was was twenty 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.640 five or thirty cases of Corona just sitting there. 0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.360 That's amazing of it I. 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:53.680 Should have. 0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.760 The pot. His cigarette is out and he is on 0:28:58.800 --> 0:28:59.160 the pot. 0:28:59.200 --> 0:28:59.719 We're here. 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:01.960 We were just talking to him the question we had 0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.720 his favorite memories on UH on the Road, and I 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.600 think his list was Chase, Rice, Thomas Rhett if I 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:09.440 had the most. 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:12.160 Fun on the Chase Tour because that's just the wildest one. 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:17.160 TR was fun because it was all everybody doing the 0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.400 for the first time, like tr headlining for the first time, 0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.120 Kelsey Ballerini's first time playing arenas, and then me and 0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.840 Russell Dickerson were just the first time doing anything. Yeah, 0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.440 so we were stoked. I like doing obviously like doing 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.320 my own show the most because. 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:32.360 You get to run the show, fucking yours. 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.200 Yeah, it's your Chase. Seems like a good time. We 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.760 got to interview him the virtual stuff, but yeah, he 0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:39.800 seems like a fun time. 0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.320 The first night ever on the Chase Tour, we're playing 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.240 have you played Kegs and Jordan, New York the Syracuse 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:50.160 you will. It's just like it's the middle of nowhere 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.360 if they call it like the Syracuse market, but I 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.680 don't even think it's close to Syracuse, And it's the 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.000 only thing in the town is this little dive venue 0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.520 and they have a uh the stage is plywood and 0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:07.160 there's like Chase draws like two thousand people. I don't know, 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:10.720 uh would There's tons of people there and and I 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:12.800 like show up and I'm about to play, and all 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.200 of a sudden, like the tour manager John gets like 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.000 I like to see him get punched in the head. 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:21.600 Like some dude like walked up to Chase his bus 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.720 and started like taking a leak on his bus and 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:28.040 John like goes over to like get the security guard 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:29.600 and get this dude kicked out, and the dude just 0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.160 whips around and like just punches him in the head. 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.480 And so like, who punched you in the head? The 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:36.440 guy who beat on his. 0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:39.040 Bus punched the tour manager in the head? 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:40.600 Yeah, like the side of the head. 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:40.960 Dude. 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.120 John Lasard is reaching over the security guards and has 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.440 got this dude by the beard. It's just shaking him 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:47.080 by the beard. 0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.160 Oh no, but uh it. 0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.240 Was that was my first night on the Chase Rice tour. 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:54.280 And I was like, that was your first night, Yeah, 0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:55.120 that's the bar. 0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:56.920 It was like my third show ever. 0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.680 And he cheems like people don't like you. 0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:03.280 No, it was just some people get rowdy around you. 0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.320 Yeah, it was. That was the rowdiest tour I've ever 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.560 been on, and it was my first one. It was 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.320 on my third show ever, and I was like, oh 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.560 my god, what am I doing? But uh, that was fun. 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.600 That was like one of those days where you're like 0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:16.600 one of those tours, are like not sure how the 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:18.680 we had like a sprinter van. You're not like sure 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.040 how that thing got from city to city? Right, don't 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:22.680 really remember? 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:23.600 Did you have to drive? 0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:24.960 Not much? 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:25.480 Yeah. 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.320 I always drove like coming home because like I wasn't. 0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.760 I was not about like taking our time to get home. 0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:33.920 So I was like I will go, I will we 0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:34.640 are going home. 0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.760 Yes, So so you guys won't have like a bus 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:39.920 driver every time, like sometimes they'll just be. 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.160 Well now I do, but early on when you can't 0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:45.400 afford a bus, you take van. 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:45.680 Yeah. 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.960 Buses are ridiculous, like ten grand for the weekend at least. 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:49.360 Yeah. 0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.920 Yeah, oh old Dominion. That was a great. 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:56.520 Tour to be Those are fun guys, fun dudes I had. Yeah, 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:57.160 those are fun guys. 0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:58.880 I forgot I did that at the end of last 0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:00.920 year as the last tour I was on. That was. 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.560 That's a great they have a great Uh fan base 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:05.760 for someone like me, like they're they're fans, and my 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:08.280 fans are like, I feel like there's a. 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.600 Lot of a lot of car over crossover overlap, So 0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:13.520 why why is that? 0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:15.640 I don't know. I just think that just the type 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:16.920 of music we both make. 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.080 It it's not it's not too redneck. 0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:20.760 I mean, yeah, I know I have a mullet, but 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:21.680 I'm not the most redneck. 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.400 I was telling him, like, are you swing a lot 0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.400 of different ways? He was actually complimenting earlier, saying there's 0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.760 not many. There's not many people who swing a different 0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:30.600 hammer all the time. 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.840 Wasn't quite ready for that, I guess in your seat? Sorry, Pops, 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:36.800 do I need to get up? 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:43.080 Or Taylor Wells kind of glued to my seat? 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:44.640 So sorry? 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:45.840 Do you want to share this microphone? 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:48.480 Similar we were talking about yesterday with like sports and 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:50.760 everything else you have, like ninety percent of the league 0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:53.120 is kind of the same and then there's some unicorns. 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:54.920 Actually, someone's sitting over there right now. 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.440 You are You are too, well, Taylor, Taylor is. 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.120 This is definitely play more talented than. 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:03.000 In the football. 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:08.040 Songwriters. Who are you meet songwriters? They are all kind 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:09.800 of the same amount of talent. And then you get 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:13.360 in the room with guys like like Michael and Iarn 0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.600 and you're like, oh my god, this guy's I would 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:17.960 never say this to your face. 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:18.480 Well don't. 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:23.440 This guy. 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.320 This guy's hands down more talented than everybody else. It's 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.080 like the guys that can just like spit out a 0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.200 second verse in like one second, and you're like, oh, 0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.280 that's it and we don't have to change anything, Like, 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.280 not a lot of people can just like, actually, there's 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:36.520 not even a lot of people I think that can 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.560 write lyrics. To be honest, I think that. I don't 0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.920 mean that in a world full of songwriters, that's pretty heavy. 0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.040 I think that's like, I think that's the most challenging 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.000 thing for most people. And then like when when you 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:50.200 meet people who are it comes like very effortless, like 0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:54.160 you or Michael, It's like, damn, that's the special Eric Pasley. 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.160 Do you guys know who Eric Pasley is. He's another 0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.160 dude like that that you might not think of. That's like, 0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.640 it's it's just effortless. So that was my compliment for 0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:03.120 you earlier. 0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.360 Well, thank you, damn glad I got to hear that. 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:06.920 Yeah, And I'll never give you another one. 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:08.319 That's fine. 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He 0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.359 was explaining what EP was, and would you say, what 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:01.359 does E P mean? 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.880 I mean he's stended play. But it's fucked up because it's. 0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:05.520 Extended playlist, but it's a shorter album. 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:06.920 Yeah, it's not extended. 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:08.320 I thought, I'm an executive producer. 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:12.240 I thought, so, does hear episode. 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:14.960 EPs on like TV shows or songs? 0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.840 Yes, you get that paper because yes, because you're the 0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:18.640 executive producer. 0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:19.200 That's what I'm saying. 0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.400 When we walked away from your podcast yesterday, I'm speaking 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:22.280 very loudly because. 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:25.120 I'm like, that's okay, that's okay right now. 0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:27.719 When I talk about, I want to EP on your 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:29.480 next album, so I want to I want to get in. 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.360 That do it known as a songwriter. 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.520 Do it, get Dereck Henry on my on my project. 0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:34.640 If you want to be known as a. 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.560 Songwriter, you got to write the songs. 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:38.040 Dude. 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.120 You can executive produce and not know anything about music. 0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:41.960 People do it all the time. 0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.120 Song But if let's say the four of us are 0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.440 sitting in a room and we wrote a song right now, 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.040 and I said one word that made it in that song. 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.160 You don't say a word, right, you just get credit 0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:51.600 for right. 0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:53.840 Yes, dude, if we if me and Ryan wrote a 0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:54.760 song right now. 0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:58.080 And y'all here, Taylor and Will and Taylor y'all. 0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.480 Y'all it is Will and Taylor because y'all are the room. 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.239 Actually it's a one, two, three, four, five six. 0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:04.680 We don't have to give them credit there, you do 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:05.719 because they're in the room. 0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:07.760 Yeah, that's Nashville. 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.560 I think we could argue that that that that half 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.000 of the room doesn't need credit for the song. We 0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.880 could argue that, but it would be literally split. You 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.480 get twenty five twenty five twenty five twenty five if 0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.120 you do it in La, though, or New York is 0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:21.279 different because they would go. 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.160 I'll give you four percent of mind twenty five. 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.040 But you would get if you were in LA, they 0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:27.520 would like start arguing. 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.080 Over like they're keeping but get that mic closer. 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:33.960 They would argue about like who who wrote what, and 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:37.480 like how much you each deserved? Yeah, and so like 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.280 you would like all those A lot of those songs 0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.400 go into dispute, so nobody gets paid until the dispute 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.759 is settled because some guys like, well I deserve more 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.320 than four percent because I moved this mic cable or something. 0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.399 And they hold up everybody's pay In Nashville, you feel 0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:51.600 like it's different than Nashville. 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.799 Pretty much just cut and dry, the only thing you 0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:59.400 run into in Nashville is like if somebody potentially like 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.480 if you are on top of somebody else's song, you 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.280 might have to give them some credit. Like Brett Eldridge 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:08.400 when he did that Crazy song, he had that Celo 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:14.800 Green like Crazy, he had literally like the the hook 0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:19.319 to Crazy, and so he had to give credit that 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:21.279 those writers had to give credit to all the people 0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.359 who wrote Crazy. And I'm sure it wasn't like an 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.400 equal split, but like sometimes you have to do that. 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:28.600 But other than that, like it's just we split it 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:34.640 all down the middle here or equally than la oh yeah, 0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:36.000 because I mean it's just if you. 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:39.480 Wrote song, well, me, Will and Ernest had a thumb 0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:40.719 up brasses the whole time in the morning. 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:42.240 That's so I'm saying Taylor and I were just sitting 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:43.880 here and you guys walked out like, well, even it's 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:44.760 gonna be a great. 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.319 Song, number one song because you've had four or five 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:47.040 number one songs. 0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.320 Yeah, But I would say two things to that. I 0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.440 would say you because when we wrote Heartless, I was 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:56.040 the dude I walked in and he started just it 0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:57.640 fell out of him and I just had my phone 0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.800 being like no, you got to say that again exactly 0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:01.480 like that, and you need that guy to be like 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:05.560 definitely the editor right sometimes, And then i'd also say 0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.760 that if it's truly like I did ninety five percent 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.440 of it and it was a huge hit, I'm not 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.799 I'm just not gonna do it again. You know, all 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.880 your people be like, we gotta get this crew back together, 0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:15.359 and I'd be. 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:20.680 Like, no, but the crew is technically already together. 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.319 That's what I would That's yeah, So that's the fall 0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:27.279 figures itself out. 0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:28.000 Yeah. 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:29.960 Do you like being a songwriter? Do they be a 0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:30.680 performer better? 0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:32.600 Is that one of them? They're different? I like being 0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.320 a songwriter. That question, it's music all the time. 0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.560 Yeah, but he let him elaborate more. 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:38.279 Two of us missed it. 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:39.799 I would like for you to. 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:42.160 Performing. 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:43.840 I think you'll have a similar answer. But I like 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.799 when you're a writer, you're creative all the time. It's 0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.960 all music, and when you're an artist, it's like ninety 0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:57.600 percent not music bullshit, And it's that's a word for it. 0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.759 It's just like I'm yeah, So I like doing both 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.319 things because the less I write, I feel like the 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.879 more I hit the bulls eye. Yeah, because my I'm 0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:10.239 never burnt. But also and I like playing shows. I 0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:12.960 like obviously like the recording of music. I like the 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.120 music part of being an artist, but there's so much 0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:18.080 attached to it. That's like. But I also don't want 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.719 to just write songs because I feel like you just 0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.640 write too many and you get burnt out and then 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:26.160 just they get shittier. So I like doing both things 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.320 and earnest like you were one of the few dudes 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:29.280 like me who does both. 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.160 Yeah, there's not a lot of them. I totally agree. 0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:33.959 I feel the same way about artistry. They're like there's 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:36.320 a there's a part of me. Maybe it's ego or whatever, 0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.920 but I've always wanted to perform songs or like, sometimes 0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.319 I'll be writing a song and it's I know, as 0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:44.200 soon as we're writing it, this is for me. I 0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:48.360 want to sing this song. So like that that or 0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:52.319 whatever is getting itched by being an artist. But as 0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:56.360 far as creator goes, like I can't turn off writing songs. 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:57.839 I'm gonna be writing songs either way. 0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.520 Well, you kind of I feel like you just create 0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.880 shit all the time, whether you're just creating a text 0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:05.200 for myself. Yeah, just like trying to make somebody laugh. 0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:09.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's the fact that songwriting 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:12.480 is a job is unreal, Like haha, high school teachers 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:16.280 like you're a d D and not listening in class, 0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:17.960 so you better pay attention. You're gonna need to go 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:19.600 finish college if you want to get a real job. 0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.600 It's like, I have a sociology degree, which is basically. 0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:23.680 How do you and how does that make it? And 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:24.920 how does that make you feel? 0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:27.080 You know what? 0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.319 I had not a lot to do with writing a song, 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:34.440 so whatever, I just yeah. I think the difference too, 0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:36.279 is like a lot of people want to be an artist, 0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:38.520 like I wish I was a country music artist, but 0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.239 then there's dudes that are just like that kid just 0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:44.600 is one. Yes, And that's like so like people, you 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.160 get better at writing songs, get better at making recordings, 0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:49.680 but either sometimes either are one or you aren't one. 0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:53.680 And I think that that's what people, like real fans 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.839 kind of catch on to, is like they know. 0:42:56.800 --> 0:43:00.239 What, Zach, Yeah, I want to be an NFL football Yeah, 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.200 I ain't gonna. I can go to the gym every day. Again, 0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:02.600 we can. 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.080 Tackle each other every Thursday night. 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:06.719 I'm not taking a hit from either of y'all, I'll 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:07.279 take a hit. 0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:07.919 Have you had. 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:12.160 You ever had to tackle Derrick Henry? 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:20.359 Yeah? Will he was a few times, he was right there. 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.680 A couple of times you tripp or something. Well, yeah, 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.480 you go through with it. No, Yeah, he's a he's 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.640 a monstery somebody you just you just drop low on 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.280 in the hole. A lot of guys are very prideful 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:32.960 and they want to see if they got it. But 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:37.719 as you see Derrick Henry, the majority of times. 0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.600 I was gonna say the majority of the time, did 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.319 Earl Thomas and Derrick Henry a Father's Day card this year? 0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.879 Had a hard We actually, hey, it's his it's his 0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:51.520 mic on yet exactly. Yeahs Taylor, you're grabbing that mic. 0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.399 I don't know if it's on right now. We can 0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.359 all we can all hear you for sure. It is okay. 0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.920 I've been holding my tongue like since I've walked in here. 0:43:58.960 --> 0:43:59.879 By the way, I'm very sorry. 0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:03.600 I don't mean you do that. I'm having a having 0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:07.040 a great time. Yeah, I told him this year we 0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.279 just had a baby. I get it. I said, Yo, 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:14.040 he's three months yesterday, born in the quarantine. He's pretty 0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:16.680 good and he's getting there. We're almost there, dude. 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:19.960 The first six months is like I'm just keeping this 0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:20.359 thing a lot. 0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:22.719 Oh yeah, I wake up at four am every day 0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:24.480 to feed him and then put him back to bed. 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:25.319 And tough life. 0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.759 It gets there for sure. My my first daughter, she 0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.480 was born July July fifth, and like two weeks later 0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:33.719 I had to go to camp. But those two weeks 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:35.239 I was like, I was like in it because my 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:39.000 wife is she's dead, right yeah. And then my daughter 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:41.520 now she's due July sixteenth, and so it's like I'm 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.680 kind of I kind of get a get jail free throat. 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:44.399 I have to go to CAP. 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:46.120 It's kind of a weird little deal. 0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.319 But we were we were gonna I was gonna be 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:50.960 I mean, we tour, so our schedules kind of go 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.000 like this, but we we wanted a tour together this 0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.359 year just so that like I didn't miss a whole 0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:58.600 chunk of time. But it's a it's a lot of work, man. 0:44:58.600 --> 0:44:59.799 They're like, oh, it's a lot of work, and then 0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:02.080 you are doing it. Oh shit, this is is a 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.040 lot a lot of work. And then you always I think, 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.120 like your kid has a rough day. Like my daughter, 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.960 she's gett me three, and she'll. 0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:12.920 Like like be super like mean, or like she'll do 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.160 something that's like not good right, and I'll be like, hey, 0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:17.680 don't don't do that, And like then you get frustrated 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.319 as your patients are low and then they go to bed, 0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:20.960 and then your head you're like, what if I just 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:24.839 created a serial killer by doing the right things. Some 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.520 people do kid, some people do Dahmer, all those guys, 0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:30.680 But like, you know, I don't want to to be 0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:31.280 a Dahmer. 0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:32.080 You know what I'm saying. 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:36.040 Manson Jimmy Dahmer had no idea when he when you know, 0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:42.600 when he went ahead said I'm shooting it, Jeffrey, No, 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:46.600 Timmy's his dad. I'm talking. But when I'm saying, I'm 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.680 not talking about a bullet. When I say shooting it, 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.239 I'm talking about I'm gonna make this kid. And then 0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:55.000 that kid we named him Jeffrey damn dude could not Yeah, 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:55.760 for sure. 0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:57.759 But parenting. Parenting is the most stresful job in the 0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.400 world because you just feel like every day is like, 0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:01.799 am I doing the right thing as a parent? Am 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.200 I making sure that this kid? When they're three months old, 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:05.959 you're like, hey, I'm keeping you alive, and then six 0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.200 months hits and you'll be like you're gonna come home 0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:09.880 and he's gonna be like kind of smiling anything. 0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:16.520 All right. That's the hardest part is when you're like 0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.280 you don't feel like a dad until like the kid comes, 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:21.200 because it's like you're not pregnant with it. You can't 0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:23.520 feel a kick a little bit, but that's it. And 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.480 then like it comes and I didn't feel like this 0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:30.319 massive emotional flow is more like all right, here's the kid, 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:33.120 and we're gonna keep it alive. But slowly he's like 0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.759 starting to have like facial expressions and like starting to 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:39.120 like you could see like recognizes me. That part's cool, 0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:42.400 Like that's like, my it's been like a steady increase 0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:45.120 in feeling like a dad as opposed to just like 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:49.279 this huge wave of it. But yeah, it's it's it's 0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:50.960 I don't know, I don't know if we're gonna do 0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:52.120 it again. 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.440 We had one where like you gotta give it, you 0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:54.800 gotta give it. 0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:56.879 He's pretty easy though, and that's the thing is, like, man, 0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.480 we got an easy kid. Everybody tells us he's easy. 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:02.080 Why would we how do we potentially get a shitty one? 0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:03.759 Yeah, let's say I hear the second one. 0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:05.840 Hear the second ones are the handfuls bit of a doozy. 0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:09.240 No, I've always thought like the second one. Like my wife, 0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.480 she was the second one, and she was like the 0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:15.920 good kid like Quinn, her brother, wild child, like add 0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:18.120 poster child like me, bam bam bam bam, off the walls. 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:20.640 And then I was the first and I was the 0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:22.839 kid that was off the walls. But my brother would 0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:24.640 sit there and just watch me. But I feel like 0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:28.680 the second kids always like easier for whatever reason, because 0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.160 they're being entertained by the first one. Now having to 0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:33.880 like then you go from my Hey, both of us, 0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:35.960 you and me, we're gonna get on the skate. We're 0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:37.200 going to make sure these kids no no on nowhere 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:39.160 and I'm doing something wrong. When you got too, it's like, hey, 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:40.800 i'll see you. I'll see you to night before we 0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:41.279 go to bed. 0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.160 Yeah, you're lucky, and we had to get in there. 0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:46.040 You know I'll be over here, you'd be over there. 0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.560 Parenting's cool as shit, though it's different. I feel like 0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:52.160 like before I had kids, I didn't know if I'd 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.440 ever want to have kids, But now that I have kids. 0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:55.719 I'm like, man, it's the coolest thing ever. 0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:57.840 I didn't want one until I was with Mare and 0:47:57.920 --> 0:47:59.239 I was like, I could have a kid with you, 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:03.960 And I never had that like like there's you know, 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:05.680 people are like, man, I just want to be a dad, 0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:07.560 like they've dreamed about it their whole life. And I 0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:09.640 was like when I met her and I was like, okay, 0:48:09.719 --> 0:48:14.000 that makes sense. So I've had that's been awesome. I 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.680 wouldn't have done it unless it was with somebody who's like, oh, 0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:18.359 I want to have a kid with you. I think. 0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:19.920 I think a lot of ways people get stuck in 0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:22.920 Like people make plans like by the time I'm twenty five, 0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:24.120 I want to have this job. By the time I'm 0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:25.319 twenty seven, I want to be married by the time 0:48:25.320 --> 0:48:27.120 I'm thirty, I want to have two kids. And they 0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:29.440 have like this timeline in their head. But then you 0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:32.480 end up like just saying, Okay, well I need to 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:34.120 be married by twenty seven, so I'm going to marry 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:35.480 the person that i'm with right now. That's and that 0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:37.520 person might not be the person for you. You know 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:39.480 what I'm saying. Because I was kind of that way too, 0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:41.920 Like I was really you know, I was kind of. 0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:42.400 A rambling man. 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:44.200 I was kind of going from place to place, kind 0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:45.239 of a little bit of a fuck boy. To be 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:46.880 totally honest with you, I was, I was riding a 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.239 little thirty out there and yeah, think you this stand 0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:53.080 up gentleman. You and I met Taylor, and all that 0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:54.399 stuff kind of like just went away. 0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:55.719 I was just like, man, this is oh. 0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:58.759 Yeah, A proposed her in five weeks, five weeks, five weeks, 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:02.200 proposer in five weeks, got married on four twenty and uh, 0:49:03.880 --> 0:49:10.040 thank you. Married got married on four secretly some little 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:12.080 church at Vanderbilt. No one knew about it, and then 0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:14.719 we got married two years later, very for everybody else. 0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:16.200 So it was a cool gig. 0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:16.440 Man. 0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:18.520 I feel like some of that stuff can be like 0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:21.560 I chalk it up as like small town syndrome, because 0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:23.800 when I was growing up, we all kind of breach. 0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:26.080 You up in small towns and you kind of think, like, 0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:28.319 I want to be buried probably with a kid by 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:31.880 twenty five because everyone around you, the generation above you, 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.040 like they all did it, even though they're all arguing 0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:35.520 now and they kind of all hate each. 0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:39.600 Other'sall town syndrome is a great song time you see. 0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:40.880 That's the great. 0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.560 Syndrome getting married. 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:49.239 My name by that one. 0:49:49.640 --> 0:49:53.359 Hey hey, well hey we all yeahmall town sydrum comes out. 0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:54.239 Boys, we all made that. 0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.000 We made the cut on now everyone, We'll have to 0:49:57.680 --> 0:49:59.160 We'll have to. 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Please use me, Yeah, yeah, I 0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:56.279 mean please, don't know Ernie. 0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:58.359 Ernests had a little smirk over there like he's like, yeah, 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:01.320 a fucking life, please me, and about to use this 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:03.760 shirt as a towel to drop a sweat off my forehead. 0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:07.239 Denim cow the Canadian tuxedo. 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:07.920 I thought, the day. 0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:10.680 You've been on the bus before and there was no 0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:12.960 air last time, right, So I don't know what made 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:16.399 it last because I wanted to dress decent. I didn't 0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.839 want to come up here looking homeless. And now Ryan 0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:20.759 was going to come correct with that. Yes, dude, I 0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:21.799 had the car. 0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:23.960 I told you I. 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.200 Don't you don't come onto the bus with your weak ship. 0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.080 And Aaron was trying to just got a little warm. 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:31.120 It's okay, that's it. I had a flannel and I 0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:32.719 really thought to myself, it's in the car, and I 0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:34.560 was like, I feel like he might be wearing plaid. 0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:38.040 So I threw the double denims on and I was right, dude, 0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:39.319 when I got in right, I was right. 0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:41.480 A quick side note. I know people make fun of 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:45.000 the Canadian tuxedo. Big fan of it. I think denim 0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.600 on Denham looks great. I don't care who knows it, 0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:47.960 did it? 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:48.719 Big fan of that. 0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:50.759 It's a hot one, but it is. 0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:53.040 And I run hot too, run hot. 0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.360 Yeah you sleep, you got a big fan when you sell. 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:56.360 My wife hates fans. 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:00.400 My huge thing. 0:53:00.480 --> 0:53:02.040 I'm a big I'm a big go to the hotel 0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:04.640 on away games and then first thing I do, crank 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.160 that thing down with yes. It's like in the fifties. 0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:08.480 I'm like, that's all right, We're gonna be all right. 0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:12.399 In the middle of the night, like running back and forth, 0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:16.640 it's beginning, like Christmas comes over your TV. It gets 0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:20.160 so cold and there dying dude had Christmas at a 0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:21.279 at an extended stay. 0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:23.200 Dude, that's awesome. 0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:24.680 That was a grind. 0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:27.520 I was raising the pace raising a puppy on tour 0:53:27.600 --> 0:53:30.040 and we were staying at extended stays all across. 0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:32.160 It's a different world than an extended stay. You brought 0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:34.719 your dog on tour, Yeah, little baby puppy in a 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:36.360 van by yourself. 0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:40.320 Me, Delaney, uh, my tour manager and my dog and 0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:42.480 we went all over and he was like, you know 0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:44.800 that the mics doud three months old. No, that was 0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:48.040 on the Mason Ramsey tour. Yes, which was a little 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:54.279 more toned down because he's fourteen. I was, I did 0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:56.600 all my drugs and drinking elsewhere. 0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.480 That was the Mountain Dew Tour. 0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:01.759 The mountain too, Yeah, No, it was. 0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:03.160 It was the white Claw Tour for me. 0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:05.680 I was drinking so much white claw and Mason finally 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:07.600 came out to me. He goes, white claws are bad 0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:09.759 for your voice. You should drink water. And I'm like, 0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:15.400 listen here, kid, this is my first, second or third rodeo. 0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:17.520 All right, I'm gonna drink white. 0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:21.440 Claws white for your voice. Did you ground him on 0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:22.040 the spot. 0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.000 Yeah, put him in his place, punched him. 0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:26.960 How about that, though, Dude, you you can't become a 0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.320 famous football player by yodeling in a Walmart. 0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:31.879 That's just no dope. 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:33.279 Would that be if you could? You can become a 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:37.000 professional player. About just hauling off at a minor league game. 0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:41.360 Sometime sounds game. He threw like ninety six That's what 0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:41.839 I'm saying. 0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:43.440 And now he's got signed by the A Yeah. 0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:44.319 Sign, that's right. 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:45.320 It's insane. 0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:47.560 Football is worst sport to pick. 0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:47.839 Huh. 0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:51.800 Basketball, You out there, just go crush it, crush it. 0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:54.400 Boom, you're in I mean, you've made a lot of 0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:56.560 money with football, so why is it the worst sport? 0:54:57.480 --> 0:54:59.200 It's the worst sport to get like, like. 0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:06.400 I think it's the worst sport to get like found, okay, 0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:07.520 get found in a Walmart? 0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:09.560 Well were we gary? Bring that stuff back up? What 0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:10.400 were we talking about? 0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:12.760 Who knows you were? You were going in on saying 0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:16.080 use me, Oh yeah, as long as the check clears man, Yes, 0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:20.279 just use it up. Take my music, like, cut it 0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:21.520 however you want, put it on the race. 0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:23.520 So there there's something that there's a formula already in 0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:25.200 place for people that want to do something like that. 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:28.040 Yeah, we're paid a song, like it's publishing royalties, you're 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:28.959 paid to do it. Yeah. 0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:32.799 But I think like in your case, like you are 0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:36.880 in that crew of like Morgan and Michael and and 0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:41.280 like there is a thing there that you have created 0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:44.319 with the other those other two dudes. It's like it's 0:55:44.360 --> 0:55:47.160 a it's a style, and it's very much something that 0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:49.320 you're a part of. And so I think it's like 0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:51.920 with you, it's just waiting your turn to when like 0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:55.000 that third dude can come in and and and do 0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:58.000 it like kind of behind those two guys boats. I 0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:00.719 mean the thing about Morgan and my they got their 0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:03.040 first and that's the only thing that it is. So yeah, 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:04.560 but you get to write all the songs and have 0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:07.200 all the singles, and obviously that's a good living. But 0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:09.640 uh but yeah, man, it's just we're we're in the 0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:11.320 same boat where it's like, man, we just need like 0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:14.080 that one like I had a my song got to 0:56:14.160 --> 0:56:17.960 top twenty at radio and then it, uh it's a 0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.239 platinum record. But it just it's like you need like 0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:22.080 to stack those up a couple of times before you 0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:24.040 can like have that ball rolling. And that's like the 0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:25.040 same boat that we're both in. 0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.560 There's gotta be some sort of politics that plays into it, though. 0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:29.719 If you have that many guys getting together doing riding around, 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:34.200 that's the nine Yeah you don't want to do Yeah, yeah, 0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:35.880 you got to sit there and all right, well not 0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:37.200 a're just gonna say the song it's going to be 0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:39.200 number one. I'm sure there's a different release. 0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:40.800 Yeah, there's. I mean it's a lot of behind the 0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:44.319 scenes stuff that like sometimes artists don't even have much 0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:47.440 say and what comes out next or when and how 0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:51.200 how they're released. Oh really, Yeah, I mean we're definitely 0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:53.239 involved in like picking songs and stuff and all that, 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:56.759 but sometimes, you know, labels get to look at analytics 0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:59.000 and actual numbers, so it's like less of a guessing game, 0:56:59.160 --> 0:57:01.600 like oh, I like this song, Let's do this. It's like, well, 0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:05.120 this one's streaming well, so let's numbers are already saying 0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:07.000 this will probably do well, so let's run that one 0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:07.399 to radio. 0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:10.279 There's like all that being so, Aaron, let's take your 0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:11.560 feelings out of it, look at the. 0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:13.719 Dyea And that's hard to do as a creator because 0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:17.480 feeling is like everything. We write songs around feeling, and 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:19.760 right when it comes to what we actually get to 0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:22.920 portray ourselves as like sometimes we get we have to 0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:23.960 take that feeling away. 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:25.040 Yeah, gotcha. 0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:27.480 I had this song come out called what Her Name Was? Summer, 0:57:27.520 --> 0:57:29.400 and it was my favorite song, and I was like, 0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:31.160 this is the one, this is it, and I was 0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:33.120 the only one that thought that, and then. 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:37.000 I am right. 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:40.000 And then it went to it got too serious and 0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:41.840 it got like it did all right, but it was 0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:43.560 very obvious it was not the one. 0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:46.280 I was like, he comes in the meeting, Hey, Ryan, 0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:47.400 did you learn your lessons? 0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:51.520 Yeah? I talk about that dumb ass song you want 0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:55.919 to play and you can tell like when you play live, 0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:58.440 like what songs are huge? And that's one that I'm like, oh, 0:57:58.480 --> 0:57:59.880 this is going to be huge. And then it's like 0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:01.240 very medium. 0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:01.840 I didn't do it. 0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:03.720 It didn't do very well live you hear. 0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:07.640 It's just not like on the people are like, fuck yeah, 0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:09.200 it's not the reaction you dreamed that. 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:11.959 Yeah, Like that scene in Queen where the guy starts 0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:14.160 to singing and the whole crowd start behind him. 0:58:14.200 --> 0:58:14.600 He just stop. 0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:17.360 That's the whole thing kind of That's like the thing 0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:19.400 you dream about as like an athlete, because athletes want 0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:22.200 to be singers, songwriter, as actor. They want to be 0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:24.320 what they're not. Everybody wants to be what they're not. 0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:26.800 And so like you sit there and you're watching Queen 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:29.000 or the Elton John movie or any ship like that. 0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:30.760 I mean, I'm not trying to be you know, a 0:58:30.800 --> 0:58:35.880 homosexual guy from London, super talented, super talented, but happy. 0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:36.600 Being what I am. 0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:39.920 But I'm saying as a singer songwriter, like having somebody 0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:42.080 like call recall to you would be like the dopest 0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:43.200 shit ever, or. 0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:45.640 Like telling that lawyer dude, like no, I think this 0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:49.000 single tell the off. Dude, you're having that amount of 0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:51.880 cloud that's and then you walk out and then throw 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.720 a fucking rock at the window. You know what happened. 0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:56.480 Yeah, it's a great movie. You'll my favorite movie. 0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:57.439 I actually love that movie. 0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:01.479 Like they didn't they did just used is the actual vote? 0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:04.280 Maybe's the actual Freddie Mercury vocal? Right? Yes, I liked 0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:06.520 that they did that because yes, you can't fake that. 0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:07.080 You can't. 0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:10.640 The one movie that I thought was really good the 0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:15.880 music movie, was Walk the Line Joaqum Phoenix, Yeah, Joe 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:19.520 him Phoenix. I don't know, but yeah, Walkurd Wait you 0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:20.400 of this. 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:24.440 I don't want to get addicted to it. I think addicted. 0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:25.840 I think I'd like to try me some of that 0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:29.360 cocaine sounds kind of expensive. It's the least expensive. 0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:32.720 Drug there is and not once did you pay for drugs? Yes, 0:59:33.120 --> 0:59:35.600 Walkard's best, but Joaquum did a pretty good Johnny Cash. 0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:37.720 I was okay with Joaquem's voice in that. 0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:41.600 He had my favorite ever acceptance at the Oscars when 0:59:41.640 --> 0:59:47.200 he used his time to uh decree milk oh yes 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:47.960 to cry. 0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:50.280 Yeah, it was like a vegan it was a vegan 0:59:51.840 --> 0:59:57.040 chant he got he won like. 0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:59.080 The biggest award he could ever win. He's like milk 0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:01.000 is bad And that was basically all he said. 1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:03.919 Yeah, he's a super private dude, right, like strange. 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Ways want to be people that way different 1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:17.000 than me? 1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:19.439 Ben Burgess, Ben Burgess is that guy. 1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:21.720 Yeah, it's like the dude, You're like, that dude's a genius. 1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:26.440 He's a genius, but it's tough to like rope him in. 1:00:26.520 --> 1:00:28.280 And when you do, it's great, but you gotta like 1:00:28.440 --> 1:00:31.360 really sit there until you gotta wait for it. 1:00:32.160 --> 1:00:32.960 Kind of like h c L. 1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:34.840 Yeah, a little bit like that. 1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:38.080 Hammercock was definitely like hammer Cock dude, hammer Cock La 1:00:38.080 --> 1:00:39.920 Floor was definitely one of those cats that were like 1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:41.760 you talked to him and be like, oh, this guy 1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:43.720 is just yeah, he's a wavelength and I. 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:46.600 Yeah, expanded Hammercock. 1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:50.080 So we did I think the podcast that she just 1:00:50.160 --> 1:00:52.480 came out right yesterday. 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I can see that guy delivering a pizza. 1:01:35.560 --> 1:01:40.280 Sausage on this one. He's got a great porn look. Man, 1:01:40.360 --> 1:01:42.040 he's got a football doesn't work out for him, which 1:01:42.040 --> 1:01:45.040 it looks like it is the NFC Championship, right, yeah, 1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:47.840 makes the NFC Championship. He's got Aaron Rodgers, he should 1:01:47.840 --> 1:01:51.440 do Jordan Love no active NFL porn. 1:01:51.480 --> 1:01:52.800 I don't know. I don't play football, But. 1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:57.160 Where about that? 1:01:57.320 --> 1:01:58.160 He was apparently? 1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:00.960 Oh man, dude, I'm a huge Michigan fan. Are you 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:03.040 You're from Kalamazoo right from Kalamo. I don't know if 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:05.080 you're a Bronco guy or whatever. Yeah, but I mean 1:02:05.120 --> 1:02:07.000 you're not only a Bronco guy, but I'm a big 1:02:07.080 --> 1:02:07.640 Michigan fan. 1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:09.640 You got you guys. You want a last team to 1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:10.479 beat Ohio State. 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:12.680 So yeah, thank you, very thank you for doing that. 1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:16.479 Don't be a friend, flat boys. Yeah three Ohio State, 1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:20.080 Stiffrey Bowl three for Ohio State. 1:02:20.200 --> 1:02:20.840 That's a big deal. 1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:23.080 That's a big fucking So this boy is my hero. 1:02:23.280 --> 1:02:24.600 And uh, Taylor's your hero. 1:02:25.080 --> 1:02:26.439 Beat he beat Ohio State. 1:02:26.560 --> 1:02:32.120 Okay, heroes and we uh and then Sugar Bowl win, right, Yeah, 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:33.680 when the Sugar Bowl we went out, I think that 1:02:33.800 --> 1:02:36.720 was the only actually good year we had because from 1:02:36.760 --> 1:02:38.480 O nine to thirteen, that's when I was at Michigan, 1:02:38.600 --> 1:02:42.400 was really a very dark time, weird, very weird. Rich 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:44.320 Rodriguez came from West West Virginia. 1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:45.880 You really brought him down, did not. 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:47.520 He did not have a good night's sleep, I think 1:02:47.560 --> 1:02:48.320 the whole time he was there. 1:02:48.440 --> 1:02:48.960 No, it was tough. 1:02:49.040 --> 1:02:50.560 Yeah, it was tough for him. And then Brady Hook 1:02:50.600 --> 1:02:53.919 came in, who everybody wanted hardball but settle for Hoke 1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:56.320 and uh, it just didn't work. 1:02:56.360 --> 1:02:56.960 Out hok either. 1:02:57.600 --> 1:02:59.520 But that that that Sugar Bowl win was really cool 1:02:59.520 --> 1:03:02.720 against West uh Virgina Tech. It's like triple overtime. 1:03:02.760 --> 1:03:05.040 Brendan Gibbons with the kick. Did you ever see his interview? 1:03:05.440 --> 1:03:07.040 I don't remember it, but I watched. I mean I 1:03:07.160 --> 1:03:07.960 was watching the game he did. 1:03:08.120 --> 1:03:10.080 He did an interview after the game and they like 1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:13.320 iced him twice and that's exactly what kicks and like, 1:03:13.360 --> 1:03:14.720 what were you thinking about? And he was like, I 1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:16.360 was just thinking about brunette girls on the beach. 1:03:18.000 --> 1:03:18.200 Yeah. 1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:21.000 He was like, yeah, coach tells me whenever I'm getting iced, 1:03:21.080 --> 1:03:22.600 just to think about girls in the beach. I'll never 1:03:22.640 --> 1:03:26.000 miss a kid. He kicked that thing, right. I love 1:03:26.040 --> 1:03:26.560 Brendan Gibbon. 1:03:26.560 --> 1:03:28.520 I feel like everything kind of changed for Michigan when 1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:30.120 you guys lost the Appalachian State. 1:03:30.440 --> 1:03:31.800 But that was that was before I was. There was 1:03:31.880 --> 1:03:32.440 two thousand and eight. 1:03:32.680 --> 1:03:35.760 That was last year that was in the air. That 1:03:35.880 --> 1:03:39.320 was right, so like it all went weird that year. 1:03:39.840 --> 1:03:42.120 I remember when Michigan, ohioseate was one two with Chad 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:44.280 Hanny Mike Hall, Yeah, and they lost by it was 1:03:44.320 --> 1:03:44.600 it two? 1:03:44.920 --> 1:03:46.640 It's like seven, right Smith. 1:03:46.440 --> 1:03:48.480 To Troy Smith and Maurice Clarette. 1:03:48.720 --> 1:03:51.400 Yeah, and then we won or Michigan. We I was 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:55.040 on the team. I then like they beat him with 1:03:55.120 --> 1:03:57.400 the nard and then that was it and they've just 1:03:57.480 --> 1:03:59.800 gotten their ass beat ever since, and it's been really 1:03:59.880 --> 1:04:00.440 just appointing. 1:04:00.560 --> 1:04:02.439 Well, there was there was one game after I left 1:04:02.480 --> 1:04:05.680 that was pretty close. It was that fourth and inches 1:04:06.240 --> 1:04:07.240 and they didn't get it. 1:04:07.280 --> 1:04:09.880 But they gave it to him. That's bullshit, absolute, you know, 1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:12.240 and everybody's like, oh, it didn't matter because they got 1:04:12.280 --> 1:04:14.400 the ball back, but Wilton dropped the ball on the 1:04:15.080 --> 1:04:17.680 on the goal line and whatever. 1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:23.200 Well shape Patterson, our helmets are cool. Yeah, responsor by Jordan. 1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:25.480 We should definitely go there. There's a there's I've actually 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:28.400 talked to Portnoy about this when we were in Miami. 1:04:28.560 --> 1:04:32.000 Is Michigan's just it hurts to say it because I 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:35.280 went there. You're a fan, but very irrelevant at this time. 1:04:36.320 --> 1:04:37.960 I don't know what you need to do because you 1:04:38.080 --> 1:04:40.520 have the Jordan sponsorship, you have the history and tradition 1:04:40.560 --> 1:04:44.120 at Michigan's unbelievable. The uniforms are iconic. What I don't 1:04:44.160 --> 1:04:45.680 know what they have to do to kind of catch 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:46.400 up with Ohio State. 1:04:46.440 --> 1:04:49.720 Because they need to drop to the academic requirements a 1:04:49.760 --> 1:04:52.080 little bit. Well, your boy got in there, and I'll 1:04:52.080 --> 1:04:54.720 tell you what it wasn't good. I got two seven 1:04:55.680 --> 1:04:58.920 with the sliding scale. My act was stupid good, but 1:04:59.400 --> 1:05:02.480 I got. And so they're not quite like Vanderbilt. Where 1:05:02.520 --> 1:05:04.040 Vanderbilt you literally have to be able to get in 1:05:04.160 --> 1:05:07.400 school to play there. That's a death penalty and it's hell. 1:05:07.440 --> 1:05:10.280 Were you a good test taker? Was that good test taker? 1:05:10.600 --> 1:05:10.640 No? 1:05:11.320 --> 1:05:11.600 I was. 1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:13.920 I was kind of what you were alluding to about 1:05:13.920 --> 1:05:16.120 the ad D pay attention to school guy. Yeah, I 1:05:16.200 --> 1:05:18.480 got to I got to Michigan and I joked with 1:05:18.520 --> 1:05:20.600 you about the sociology because I was a general state's major. 1:05:21.200 --> 1:05:23.400 But I got there and they're like, well, so what 1:05:23.480 --> 1:05:25.360 do you What do you want to do after college? 1:05:25.440 --> 1:05:27.760 Was the Wa'm going to go to the NFL? Like well, 1:05:27.840 --> 1:05:30.520 you know football punds, Yeah, and like, well statistically, and 1:05:30.600 --> 1:05:32.440 I told a story too many times on the podcast, 1:05:32.520 --> 1:05:35.800 but I definitely was like that was my fucking move, 1:05:35.920 --> 1:05:37.160 and so I didn't. I was a king of a 1:05:37.200 --> 1:05:40.280 two point zero at Michigan, absolute king of it, he said. 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:41.840 The king of the two point h I graduated with 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:43.439 the one point nine high school high school. 1:05:43.480 --> 1:05:44.320 I never got out of college. 1:05:44.400 --> 1:05:47.320 So you played when year in baseball in college? 1:05:47.760 --> 1:05:49.800 Yeah, but I never got out. I just quit after one. 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:51.960 But I got there. I mean, thank god for Christian 1:05:52.000 --> 1:05:56.320 schools because they're accepting the dumb ass kid but saying, 1:05:56.400 --> 1:05:58.160 you know what, you got a norm on you. Let's 1:05:58.240 --> 1:05:58.960 let's sign them up. 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:00.320 The Lord needs you here. 1:06:00.360 --> 1:06:01.280 Yeah, Lord. 1:06:01.760 --> 1:06:04.880 Yeah, the Lord was like kind of change our mind. 1:06:05.280 --> 1:06:06.840 They kind of kind of talked with the other two 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:08.040 and we change our mind. 1:06:08.720 --> 1:06:09.760 You kich allt of Michigan game. 1:06:09.800 --> 1:06:10.040 Still. 1:06:10.320 --> 1:06:12.600 Yeah, we went to Notre Dame this year. Actually, it's 1:06:12.600 --> 1:06:14.760 fun now because we can take my bus up there. Yeah, 1:06:14.920 --> 1:06:17.200 and we go and we'll just wake up back home. 1:06:17.560 --> 1:06:20.360 Super super easy drive to not far off from here. 1:06:20.480 --> 1:06:21.160 No, not at all. 1:06:21.280 --> 1:06:22.600 Are you talking about the apartment bus. 1:06:23.600 --> 1:06:26.240 Well, my bus has the twelve bunks, gotcha, gotcha to 1:06:26.320 --> 1:06:27.160 throw everybody. 1:06:26.880 --> 1:06:28.440 And you should hear about this apartment bus. They got 1:06:28.520 --> 1:06:28.840 my wife. 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:30.080 Listen to the pod. 1:06:30.320 --> 1:06:32.400 My wife has a really sweet bus that has a 1:06:32.520 --> 1:06:35.760 baby crate in it and our apartments in the back. 1:06:35.840 --> 1:06:38.480 But but yeah, it's that he was asking how you 1:06:38.560 --> 1:06:39.840 take a baby on the road. It's like, well, we 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:42.200 have a bus that's like set up. It's like monitors 1:06:42.280 --> 1:06:44.000 and white noise machines. 1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:45.960 And yeah, will yeah, build on the bus. 1:06:46.400 --> 1:06:47.840 You just drive the bus and then the babies. 1:06:48.000 --> 1:06:49.520 Did you hear him? Our apartments in the back of 1:06:49.600 --> 1:06:52.560 the bus. We need to look into a bus like that. 1:06:52.720 --> 1:06:53.400 We got great bus. 1:06:53.520 --> 1:06:54.000 This is fun. 1:06:54.320 --> 1:06:56.040 This is a great bus. This is a cooler bus 1:06:56.120 --> 1:06:56.320 than that. 1:06:57.040 --> 1:06:59.040 I would this bus just bus as best as cool 1:06:59.040 --> 1:07:01.160 as it gets. It's about twenty seven thousand dollars to 1:07:01.240 --> 1:07:03.880 get this thing running. The floor the floor under. 1:07:03.920 --> 1:07:05.200 You got to put it on a different chassis. 1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:10.160 Yeah, chassis. The floor is so uh there's no drivers seat, 1:07:10.160 --> 1:07:11.080 there's literally no driversy. 1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:12.720 You could just risk it. 1:07:13.240 --> 1:07:17.480 Risk this, dude, nail the lawn chair down to the floorboard. 1:07:17.640 --> 1:07:18.800 Okay, engine doesn't work. 1:07:18.880 --> 1:07:21.840 Driver's engine doesn't work. Yeah, steal an engine. 1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:25.200 Yeah, and then my parts are obsolete for this model. 1:07:27.760 --> 1:07:30.000 Not like big and fashion anymore. 1:07:30.120 --> 1:07:30.800 Crowdsources. 1:07:31.080 --> 1:07:35.720 Kickstarter could do a Kickstarter we could. 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But he's like, hey, where do you bank? 1:11:01.760 --> 1:11:04.320 That's like all it is like you, Yeah, I would 1:11:04.320 --> 1:11:06.680 bake it son Trust, I bank it Pinnacle. Well it's 1:11:06.720 --> 1:11:08.680 like those are We're not competing. 1:11:10.040 --> 1:11:12.000 Right is that? Now? Is that who you signed with 1:11:12.120 --> 1:11:12.880 recently in March? 1:11:13.160 --> 1:11:13.200 What? 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:18.160 Then you signed with some publisher now is Big Machine? 1:11:18.160 --> 1:11:21.519 So that's like Scott Boarshea and whatever. So I probably 1:11:21.520 --> 1:11:25.200 shouldn't bring that. Bring up the other thing, Garrett, you 1:11:25.360 --> 1:11:28.920 signed in March with who Big Machine Music? So the 1:11:29.000 --> 1:11:32.360 publishing side of of of that record company? 1:11:32.479 --> 1:11:34.760 Now that that's a that's a big deal, right Is 1:11:34.800 --> 1:11:37.360 that a big deal? Yeah, it's big for me, Like 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:38.360 I had Big Machines. 1:11:38.600 --> 1:11:41.320 I was at Universal Publishing for a long time. 1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:43.000 You had a picture. I saw you had a signing 1:11:43.040 --> 1:11:44.759 picture like a high schooler come into a college. 1:11:45.080 --> 1:11:46.000 Yeah, we do that. 1:11:46.200 --> 1:11:48.800 That's a big deal. Hey, let's go signing it more. 1:11:50.360 --> 1:11:53.599 I mean we we Uh. I don't know how would 1:11:53.600 --> 1:11:55.479 you describe this. I'm trying to like, it's it's a 1:11:55.520 --> 1:11:55.920 big deal. 1:11:56.080 --> 1:11:57.240 It's a publishing deal. 1:11:57.360 --> 1:11:59.880 It's like yeah, well, I mean look, I mean for 1:12:00.040 --> 1:12:03.040 a lot of people getting a publishing deal, I mean 1:12:03.080 --> 1:12:04.880 for me, I mean I was working at donut Den 1:12:05.560 --> 1:12:06.240 in Green Hills. 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:07.160 You worked a donut den? 1:12:07.280 --> 1:12:10.040 Hell yeah, I got a lifetime free donuts. Can't tell. 1:12:13.040 --> 1:12:13.320 Dude. 1:12:13.840 --> 1:12:14.080 Yeah. 1:12:14.120 --> 1:12:17.280 I mean for for most people, that's the dream. You 1:12:17.320 --> 1:12:19.320 come to Nashville, you want, you want to write songs, 1:12:19.960 --> 1:12:21.760 you get it. You get somebody to give you a 1:12:21.800 --> 1:12:25.160 publishing deal. Guess what, that's your job. You don't have 1:12:25.240 --> 1:12:26.400 a regular job anymore. 1:12:26.479 --> 1:12:27.720 And if you get the. 1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:28.640 Dream, yeah, that's it. 1:12:28.840 --> 1:12:29.920 Getting a publishing deal. 1:12:30.160 --> 1:12:32.719 For me, that was it. That was like I signed 1:12:32.720 --> 1:12:34.439 my first deal when I was twenty five years old, 1:12:34.520 --> 1:12:39.200 and I that was like, that means you are a professional, 1:12:39.439 --> 1:12:42.280 paid professional songwriter. Yes, And if you put that into context. 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:44.800 Somebody told me this once and I looked it up. 1:12:44.840 --> 1:12:46.920 It kind of holds true. In America, there's thirty five 1:12:47.040 --> 1:12:53.120 thousand paid professional baseball players, okay, majors, minors, semi pro, whatever. 1:12:53.439 --> 1:12:57.599 There's thirty five hundred paid professional songwriters in America. People 1:12:57.640 --> 1:13:01.280 who make a living as not all artists, but guys 1:13:01.600 --> 1:13:04.200 like me and Ernest and girls who write songs for 1:13:04.280 --> 1:13:06.400 other people like that's their job is just the writing 1:13:06.439 --> 1:13:08.920 of the music. There's thirty five hundred people in America 1:13:09.000 --> 1:13:11.360 that do that job, and maybe somebody can update me 1:13:11.400 --> 1:13:13.080 because I was like five years ago somebody told me 1:13:13.160 --> 1:13:14.240 that they're just obvious. 1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:16.400 You need to start leveraging the NFL numbers because we're 1:13:16.439 --> 1:13:17.719 smaller than the baseball numbers. 1:13:18.120 --> 1:13:21.800 We're like twenty I think we're like twenty two, twenty 1:13:21.840 --> 1:13:25.439 two hundred, twenty two hundred NFL players, and like right now, 1:13:25.479 --> 1:13:27.599 there's a lot more because you have a bigger roster 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:30.960 you have you have fifty three man roster times thirty two. 1:13:31.960 --> 1:13:32.160 Yeah. 1:13:32.160 --> 1:13:35.240 Boys, it's way easier to be a songwriter than a 1:13:35.280 --> 1:13:37.639 baseball player, but way harder to be a well. 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:40.280 Closer around there. 1:13:40.400 --> 1:13:42.880 Yeah, but also like you, I mean, minor minor league 1:13:42.880 --> 1:13:44.000 BASBA players even Triple. 1:13:43.800 --> 1:13:44.400 A don't make shit. 1:13:44.439 --> 1:13:45.560 You don't make sure they don't make it. 1:13:45.640 --> 1:13:48.839 But like most songwriters will be baseball players. 1:13:49.320 --> 1:13:53.240 Dude, dude, I would like to probably compare a double 1:13:53.320 --> 1:13:56.960 a baseball player's salary to a first publishing deal salary. 1:13:57.200 --> 1:13:59.400 Oh really, that you got to make sure NFL players? 1:14:00.400 --> 1:14:04.760 Was that that somebody telling us twenty eight hundred songwriters? Damn? Wow? 1:14:05.200 --> 1:14:08.360 Even less dude, I know, well, it's tables keep turning. 1:14:08.439 --> 1:14:12.080 It's not tables. Turn last ten years have been a 1:14:12.120 --> 1:14:14.680 little rough on the old uh on the songwriters, just 1:14:14.760 --> 1:14:17.400 because of the way that music's consumed. Is trying to 1:14:17.439 --> 1:14:21.040 get that balance back out. But uh yeah, so most 1:14:21.080 --> 1:14:23.920 songwriters are not millionaires. That's like the that's just the 1:14:24.000 --> 1:14:26.240 truth of it. Most of them make a common misconception 1:14:26.400 --> 1:14:28.400 kind of well, I mean like some of them are, 1:14:28.600 --> 1:14:30.880 but most of them, like you're my first deal was 1:14:30.880 --> 1:14:32.439 for like twenty eight thousand dollars a year. 1:14:32.720 --> 1:14:33.479 Now is that twenty five? 1:14:33.520 --> 1:14:36.639 That's like pretty good? Yeah, how long is that contract? 1:14:37.000 --> 1:14:39.000 Probably forty years? Yeah, how many years? 1:14:39.080 --> 1:14:39.519 Four years? 1:14:39.720 --> 1:14:40.439 How old are you now? 1:14:40.920 --> 1:14:41.599 Thirty three? 1:14:42.120 --> 1:14:44.400 So when you re up to this one, is it 1:14:44.680 --> 1:14:47.000 you basically moved up in publishing companies. 1:14:47.920 --> 1:14:51.720 The same amount of quality. I mean, both of those 1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:54.680 companies are amazing. Universal Music is obviously like the big 1:14:54.920 --> 1:14:57.080 music company in the world. But yeah, yeah, it's more 1:14:57.200 --> 1:15:01.559 like the percentages come back in my favor the more 1:15:01.600 --> 1:15:05.360 that I do it. God, Like the salary part of 1:15:05.439 --> 1:15:08.519 it's a draw, so it's like an advance, but the 1:15:09.000 --> 1:15:11.679 royalties are what you're you're partnering, you're. 1:15:11.520 --> 1:15:14.120 Splitting, right, they'll give you a month, they'll give you 1:15:14.160 --> 1:15:14.880 a monthly payment. 1:15:14.960 --> 1:15:16.559 The potential is better you pay it back. 1:15:16.800 --> 1:15:17.880 Yeah, it goes back. 1:15:17.720 --> 1:15:19.599 To it comes comes back out of your pocket. 1:15:19.680 --> 1:15:21.240 And yeah, I'm just trying to learn, dude. So it 1:15:21.280 --> 1:15:22.439 sounds like a big deal music. 1:15:22.520 --> 1:15:25.080 The money like the way money flows and music is wild, 1:15:25.600 --> 1:15:29.240 just wild. Yeah, it's it's complicated, and then once you 1:15:29.320 --> 1:15:31.000 get it, you're like, oh that makes sense. Yeah. 1:15:31.360 --> 1:15:33.320 Business manager was the best thing that ever happened to me, 1:15:33.360 --> 1:15:35.559 because yeah, I have a good one. I can't think 1:15:35.600 --> 1:15:37.000 about it, and now I don't have to. I just 1:15:37.080 --> 1:15:38.640 have to, like son some papers every now and then, 1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:40.960 and I know all of my ship's getting taken care of. 1:15:42.600 --> 1:15:45.760 No dude, all my bills, Like, I don't worry about it. 1:15:45.800 --> 1:15:47.320 He sneaks the power of attorney in there. 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:55.080 He signed this you're an idiot. Yeah yeah, I keep 1:15:55.120 --> 1:15:57.720 on writing them songs and as you kill, keep going, 1:15:57.920 --> 1:15:58.400 keep seeing me. 1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:01.960 Those people get they get a dirty business manager. Those 1:16:01.960 --> 1:16:04.400 people get kicked out pretty quick. So yeah, they get 1:16:04.439 --> 1:16:04.880 found out. 1:16:05.760 --> 1:16:07.839 Yeah, no question, had your credit card yesterday? 1:16:07.920 --> 1:16:10.880 I still ye, yeah, I know he still has credit 1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:15.800 card on the bustle with the boys credit card, so 1:16:15.920 --> 1:16:19.439 you could have bought beers. I could. I think it's 1:16:19.439 --> 1:16:20.840 the first, don't. I don't know what Will has been 1:16:20.880 --> 1:16:22.880 spending this credit card on, but I bought six bottles 1:16:22.880 --> 1:16:23.600 of water not with it? 1:16:24.160 --> 1:16:25.840 Yeah, what have you been spending on it? 1:16:26.280 --> 1:16:26.479 Yeah? 1:16:26.800 --> 1:16:28.320 I don't use it like a debit card? 1:16:28.720 --> 1:16:30.320 Would you use it for cars? 1:16:30.840 --> 1:16:35.160 Trucks? Cars? As I'll plug that card info for Venmo 1:16:35.400 --> 1:16:38.320 and paying people like using the card instead of giving 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:40.720 like the whole bank account card feed. 1:16:40.920 --> 1:16:42.439 Obviously, I got to look at that buck. 1:16:43.000 --> 1:16:45.880 Yeah, I think where would we should settle on? Twenty 1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:46.959 five d a piece. 1:16:48.760 --> 1:16:51.120 The buses and even more to condition than it was before. 1:16:51.640 --> 1:16:52.880 We're gonna put it back into the bus. 1:16:55.000 --> 1:16:57.080 I was when I walked down, Here's like, this is 1:16:57.160 --> 1:16:57.880 cooler in person. 1:16:58.560 --> 1:16:59.960 See those things aren't cool? 1:17:00.280 --> 1:17:01.680 Are great in person than they are. 1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:06.479 Most of this stuff. I think ninety nine percent of 1:17:06.520 --> 1:17:09.200 these stickers were on here when we first got this bus. 1:17:09.320 --> 1:17:10.759 I'd rather be spanking the monkey. 1:17:11.280 --> 1:17:11.800 I love it. 1:17:12.280 --> 1:17:13.439 There's one's my favorite. 1:17:13.600 --> 1:17:17.240 I think you were just thinking out loud, Okay, I 1:17:17.280 --> 1:17:18.960 was like, all right about Matt. 1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:26.720 My favorite sticker on this entire bus is behind you 1:17:27.000 --> 1:17:29.680 when you open the door on like that panel behind you, 1:17:29.760 --> 1:17:32.960 there's a big lizard and there's no lot lizards my 1:17:33.080 --> 1:17:35.080 favorite one. You ever heard a lot of lizard? So 1:17:35.240 --> 1:17:38.760 truckers drive trucks when you go to like a Love's 1:17:38.800 --> 1:17:43.840 gas station, your travel across country, those hookers lot lizards 1:17:44.280 --> 1:17:46.160 and then these they're grimy hookers that you get you 1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:47.080 paying like twenty bucks. 1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:48.320 No love that for anything. 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:50.160 Put your peep over a sock or something like that 1:17:50.280 --> 1:17:52.920 in a town I don't know where is. I'm a 1:17:52.960 --> 1:17:57.880 big fan of that one. Little educational pieces. Yeah, but 1:17:57.920 --> 1:17:59.040 if you had to ask, can't afford it. 1:18:03.280 --> 1:18:08.560 In that movie erin water Boy, this is one I 1:18:09.200 --> 1:18:09.600 should know. 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:12.920 This is like, I'm not you think I'll just sit 1:18:13.040 --> 1:18:15.960 there and soberly watch movies and take it all in. 1:18:16.280 --> 1:18:17.200 Or beer Fest. 1:18:17.760 --> 1:18:19.679 Oh god, that's it. I haven't seen that in years. 1:18:20.080 --> 1:18:23.400 That's a that's a phenomenal alright movie. The movie is 1:18:23.439 --> 1:18:26.040 so dumb. They kill off a character and then bring 1:18:26.160 --> 1:18:29.720 his twin brother back character and it was asked to 1:18:29.880 --> 1:18:33.000 be known as landfill quality fucking movies. 1:18:33.080 --> 1:18:34.639 I need to go back and watch Tonight, We're gonna 1:18:34.840 --> 1:18:36.840 Me and You're gonna get together, watch The blind Side 1:18:36.880 --> 1:18:37.599 and beer Fest. 1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:42.000 Yeah, yes, last story, talk to us how you met, 1:18:42.360 --> 1:18:44.560 how you met Maren? And we want detail. Obviously, we 1:18:44.600 --> 1:18:46.280 can read stories, we can read articles, we can see 1:18:46.280 --> 1:18:47.040 you guys met. 1:18:47.080 --> 1:18:48.720 We're asking you to make us some money on views here. 1:18:48.800 --> 1:18:49.679 So here's a favorite. 1:18:49.760 --> 1:18:54.120 Yeah, I met we writing songs and so like she 1:18:54.400 --> 1:18:57.519 moved to town to be a songwriter, not an artist, 1:18:57.720 --> 1:19:01.120 and we started writing like every week or two and 1:19:01.360 --> 1:19:06.280 and had like a creative relationship first and eventually became 1:19:06.360 --> 1:19:09.320 something different. But like we wrote songs like Tim McGraw 1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:12.519 and brothers Osbourne and she was a writer and then 1:19:12.560 --> 1:19:14.680 all of a sudden, she started like writing songs that 1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:18.320 people couldn't sing, Like she'd try to pitch them and 1:19:18.400 --> 1:19:21.200 then but nobody could do it. And that's when she 1:19:21.600 --> 1:19:25.120 started like making her own recordings again. And she's been 1:19:25.160 --> 1:19:27.000 doing this since she was eleven years old, like playing 1:19:27.120 --> 1:19:29.599 bars and like that's what people say. They're like, oh, 1:19:29.680 --> 1:19:32.360 this is like she became like was a fast. It 1:19:32.520 --> 1:19:35.040 was like fast for her and it's like, eh, kind 1:19:35.080 --> 1:19:36.920 of like if you take the whole, take it as 1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:38.640 a whole. It was. She's been doing it since she 1:19:38.720 --> 1:19:41.679 was eleven years old. But she's there's not I mean odd, 1:19:41.880 --> 1:19:45.200 like nobody she's the best songwriter I've ever met. 1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:48.200 I still believe that, Like there's no sorry, it's okay. 1:19:48.320 --> 1:19:48.960 I let that one go. 1:19:50.920 --> 1:19:52.679 I think most people would be like, yeah, it's true. 1:19:52.720 --> 1:19:56.639 She best singer in Nashville. Is it's just kind of crazy, 1:19:56.800 --> 1:19:59.639 like there's there and she's also like we talked about 1:19:59.680 --> 1:20:02.679 ninety center of the ship is not music that ninety 1:20:02.720 --> 1:20:06.479 percent she is great at so like she's just sort 1:20:06.479 --> 1:20:09.160 of like the if you would build an artist in 1:20:09.400 --> 1:20:12.560 for like country music in Nashville, it's it's her. So 1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:16.120 but we man, it's cool. We've had a really cool relationship. 1:20:16.160 --> 1:20:22.680 It is funny like I you, you forget how famous she. 1:20:22.840 --> 1:20:25.719 I forget how famous she is and so like because 1:20:25.720 --> 1:20:28.360 I am like a writer and I have a career 1:20:28.400 --> 1:20:30.920 as an artist, but it's not the same in any 1:20:31.040 --> 1:20:33.800 like even in the same stratosphere as hers. So it 1:20:33.960 --> 1:20:37.360 is funny like I'll sometimes forget, like, oh shit, she's 1:20:37.400 --> 1:20:40.160 a superstar and I am. I have to like kind 1:20:40.160 --> 1:20:42.880 of keep that in mind. It is like harder to 1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:46.160 like go out with her now, and like even we 1:20:46.240 --> 1:20:48.080 have like a couple of places we can go to dinner, 1:20:48.120 --> 1:20:50.280 but like for the most part, like she's got to 1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:53.240 kind of keep a low profile now. And uh but yeah, 1:20:53.360 --> 1:20:58.040 we we got engaged in Michigan at our lake house Michigan. 1:20:58.280 --> 1:21:00.320 Uh yeah, man, cool? 1:21:00.360 --> 1:21:03.320 What was your what was your first flirting pickup line tour? 1:21:04.040 --> 1:21:05.680 When did the table start to turn when you guys 1:21:05.720 --> 1:21:08.479 were at what comment did you have to. 1:21:08.479 --> 1:21:09.040 Saw a question? 1:21:09.200 --> 1:21:09.360 Well? 1:21:10.280 --> 1:21:12.479 I don't know, I could. I could. We definitely into 1:21:12.520 --> 1:21:15.160 each other, like pretty early on, but I remember we 1:21:15.720 --> 1:21:20.120 ended up, uh were we started dating I think officially 1:21:20.240 --> 1:21:22.760 like New Year's Eve of like five years ago or 1:21:22.800 --> 1:21:26.240 something like that. So that was that was pretty That 1:21:26.320 --> 1:21:28.160 was pretty cool. It was like we're just gonna be 1:21:28.320 --> 1:21:30.080 dating now, and so that was kind of fun to 1:21:30.200 --> 1:21:35.840 like make out in front of everybody making Facebook, like 1:21:35.880 --> 1:21:37.559 all your friends are there, Like I guess they're actually 1:21:37.640 --> 1:21:39.080 together now, So like, oh. 1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:41.040 Yeah, Ryan fucking pulled it off. 1:21:42.760 --> 1:21:45.240 I mean, at one point, you know, I had more 1:21:45.320 --> 1:21:47.400 going on than than she did when we first you know, 1:21:47.640 --> 1:21:49.560 started writing, because she had just moved in Nashville, and 1:21:49.600 --> 1:21:54.400 then very quickly the script was flipped. So which is 1:21:54.479 --> 1:21:58.519 totally okay. Man. I feel like if you uh, I 1:21:58.680 --> 1:22:03.240 just I've always I don't feel threatened ever. I think 1:22:03.280 --> 1:22:05.559 people have asked me that it's like does this ever, 1:22:05.720 --> 1:22:07.719 like do you feel threatened by the success of your wife? 1:22:07.760 --> 1:22:09.720 It's like, fuck, no, man, It's like this is I 1:22:09.840 --> 1:22:12.600 have like the ultimate freedom. Oh I don't have. Like 1:22:12.680 --> 1:22:16.200 everything I do is just like icing like everything, like 1:22:16.280 --> 1:22:19.120 because being with somebody like that. I think that like 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:21.599 dudes a lot of times get attracted to strong women 1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:23.560 and then they can't handle it because they feel like 1:22:24.120 --> 1:22:26.800 for some reason it diminishes them. And I feel the 1:22:27.000 --> 1:22:29.519 exact opposite. I feel like being with a strong woman 1:22:29.560 --> 1:22:32.360 frees me up to be literally do whatever I want. 1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:35.120 I don't have to worry about like I mean obviously 1:22:35.280 --> 1:22:37.360 to worry about her, but like I don't have to 1:22:38.600 --> 1:22:41.000 prop her up in any way. It's just she can 1:22:41.080 --> 1:22:43.479 handle her own shit, and I feel like that is 1:22:43.520 --> 1:22:47.400 a really cool way to have a relationship. You get 1:22:47.439 --> 1:22:49.639 to go golfing, and I like watching her like pop 1:22:49.720 --> 1:22:52.280 off on the internet at people, Like that's really fun 1:22:52.320 --> 1:22:55.439 for me. And then people either tell me like to 1:22:55.560 --> 1:22:58.040 back her up or like to tell her to stop, 1:22:58.120 --> 1:22:59.960 and it's like, man, I don't need to say anything, 1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:01.720 Like I'll come in there every once in a while 1:23:01.760 --> 1:23:03.680 when I feel like I need to say something. But 1:23:03.800 --> 1:23:06.920 for the most part, she can handle herself and that's cool. Yeah, 1:23:07.160 --> 1:23:09.200 and then uh, I don't know. I'm just like been 1:23:09.240 --> 1:23:12.040 proud over the last month because she's one of the 1:23:12.560 --> 1:23:15.360 I think the few country artists that's like been really 1:23:15.439 --> 1:23:17.960 vocal about like the stuff going on in our country 1:23:18.040 --> 1:23:21.760 and just even if you don't agree with it, like hey, 1:23:21.920 --> 1:23:23.760 she's putting herself out there in a big way and 1:23:24.000 --> 1:23:27.439 and and that's that takes nuts. It really does, especially 1:23:27.479 --> 1:23:28.320 in our genre. 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:31.760 Where you know that everybody's going to crucified, famously crucified 1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:33.240 yea having an opinion. 1:23:33.360 --> 1:23:36.280 Oh yeah, especially if you don't that's correct. 1:23:36.600 --> 1:23:38.920 Yeah, it's just like keep politics out of it. It's like, no, 1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:39.639 you just don't. 1:23:39.520 --> 1:23:42.559 Agree with her politics, like she said, exactly what you want. 1:23:43.880 --> 1:23:46.680 Just like the massive double standard for people who I 1:23:46.760 --> 1:23:48.840 think are I mean you deal with the people tell 1:23:49.360 --> 1:23:55.320 I mean, if if if you if you have any 1:23:55.360 --> 1:23:57.680 opinion it it's like, hey, you just go like just 1:23:57.760 --> 1:23:59.240 keep singing. That's all we want you to do. And 1:23:59.280 --> 1:24:02.400 it's like I'm a I built this platform, it's mine. 1:24:02.439 --> 1:24:04.920 I can do whatever the funk I want with it, right, or. 1:24:04.920 --> 1:24:07.320 It's like what Okay, so what is your exact job? Oh, 1:24:07.439 --> 1:24:12.760 you're a your only plumbers can have an opinion. But 1:24:12.920 --> 1:24:15.639 hearn is actually like really outspoken to on social media, 1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:16.559 and that's hey. 1:24:16.800 --> 1:24:20.160 You don't say I just think that man wrots a 1:24:20.240 --> 1:24:24.280 bullet on a Wednesday. He's outspoken. 1:24:24.400 --> 1:24:26.479 It's hard to have that when you when your platform 1:24:26.560 --> 1:24:29.320 is smaller. And I feel the same way. And sometimes 1:24:29.360 --> 1:24:31.439 I say stuff and sometimes I don't. And this, this 1:24:31.600 --> 1:24:36.040 conversation got a little took a left turn from yeah 1:24:36.080 --> 1:24:40.240 for sure, shout out number. I want I want details 1:24:40.360 --> 1:24:42.400 on how you and Marin got together, but like, honestly, 1:24:42.439 --> 1:24:44.479 it's just like it was a creative partnership that became 1:24:44.560 --> 1:24:46.720 something more and now we really do have a cool thing. 1:24:47.400 --> 1:24:50.240 That's awesome. Dude. Well I appreciate you coming on bus 1:24:50.320 --> 1:24:54.799 with the boys. Apologies for the boy beings. Yeah, everybody crashing. 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:56.519 I think it made for a good seat. 1:24:56.640 --> 1:25:00.800 Like Bruce Pearl, I love seeing you, I love seeing you, 1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:02.040 I love I love you. 1:25:02.240 --> 1:25:04.040 We got to play golf, were neighbors. 1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:07.360 Me and Will played yesterday. We invited you. 1:25:08.280 --> 1:25:10.599 I had I had another golf, you know, golf. 1:25:10.680 --> 1:25:11.479 He golfed eighteen. 1:25:12.240 --> 1:25:14.840 I didn't have time to play eighteen yesterday he has golf, 1:25:14.920 --> 1:25:16.080 You're always welcome to come back. 1:25:18.280 --> 1:25:21.080 That's fucking crazy. Hey, Taylor, Literally, I literally did Ernest's 1:25:21.080 --> 1:25:23.080 podcast yesterday and he's like, I got to play eighteen holes. 1:25:23.520 --> 1:25:26.360 I was like, cool, man, I'll see you called the bill. Hey, 1:25:26.439 --> 1:25:28.400 I did Ernest's podcasts, like, yeah, man, that's great, gotta go. 1:25:28.560 --> 1:25:30.600 I'm going to play golf. And I had him like, 1:25:30.680 --> 1:25:33.840 are they fucking playing together dude? Without me? 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:34.800 I don't. 1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:38.880 I don't golf, So would you think would you? I'd 1:25:38.920 --> 1:25:40.599 go out there and hey, if you good enough, guy, 1:25:40.920 --> 1:25:44.879 beers on a golf cart. Everybody see uh yeah, everybody 1:25:44.960 --> 1:25:45.639 sucks at golf. 1:25:46.000 --> 1:25:46.680 That's the thing. I know. 1:25:46.720 --> 1:25:50.160 I'm not worried about sucking at things. I'm say, this 1:25:50.240 --> 1:25:52.599 can go down a really weird road, but very much. 1:25:53.200 --> 1:25:53.360 I know. 1:25:53.479 --> 1:25:55.360 I can't wait. I can't wait. I've heard him a 1:25:55.400 --> 1:25:55.920 couple of times. 1:25:56.240 --> 1:26:00.439 People who think they've made it, gotcha. I'm twenty nine 1:26:00.520 --> 1:26:03.040 years old, twenty nine this month. Actually I'm actually still 1:26:03.080 --> 1:26:05.280 twenty eight and still. 1:26:05.040 --> 1:26:05.519 Haven't made it. 1:26:05.720 --> 1:26:07.200 It's hard, Yes, I haven't made it. 1:26:07.560 --> 1:26:08.280 It's hard for me. 1:26:08.640 --> 1:26:10.800 It's hard for me to pick up See what he's 1:26:10.840 --> 1:26:11.720 building down the road. 1:26:12.000 --> 1:26:13.760 But I never had that bug as a kid. My 1:26:13.800 --> 1:26:15.240 dad never made me go or nothing. Hell long, I've 1:26:15.280 --> 1:26:16.080 been golfing for well. 1:26:16.160 --> 1:26:19.080 I grew up playing and then I quit because I 1:26:19.200 --> 1:26:20.360 was like, I'm bored and I don't want to do 1:26:20.400 --> 1:26:22.360 this anymore. He had made it yet, I hadn't made 1:26:22.360 --> 1:26:24.720 it yet, and that I made it, honestly, like when 1:26:24.720 --> 1:26:26.400 everything's shut down, that was the only thing you could do. 1:26:26.439 --> 1:26:27.680 And I was like, I guess I'm gonna go to 1:26:27.680 --> 1:26:28.760 play too golf with my brother. 1:26:28.960 --> 1:26:32.840 I might not make it because of golf. Yeah, Like, dude, 1:26:33.080 --> 1:26:35.479 I literally quarantine. I never played golf in my life. 1:26:35.560 --> 1:26:37.799 I was always a baseball player, though, and I sliced 1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:39.400 the shit out of the ball from the left side 1:26:39.640 --> 1:26:42.880 with my golf swing, so I was always discouraged. Quarantine happened. 1:26:43.400 --> 1:26:45.840 My parents started playing golf out of nowhere, so I 1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:47.200 was going to meet them at the caave and like 1:26:47.360 --> 1:26:49.960 walk nine holes with them two or three times a week. 1:26:50.320 --> 1:26:52.439 And I just swopped over and started hitting right handed 1:26:52.920 --> 1:26:55.000 and realized I had way more fun. And I just 1:26:55.120 --> 1:26:57.240 haven't stopped since the beginning of Quarantine. I just played 1:26:57.240 --> 1:26:57.800 golf all the time. 1:26:57.840 --> 1:27:01.120 I love the camaraderie, you know what I mean. Yeah, 1:27:01.160 --> 1:27:03.280 And you're like, it's my brother and to my manager, 1:27:03.640 --> 1:27:05.479 I'm like, okay, I'm going three people I've never actually 1:27:05.520 --> 1:27:07.559 been met in real life. But it was a solid time. 1:27:08.080 --> 1:27:09.519 Were you nervous at that first t though? 1:27:10.120 --> 1:27:10.320 Yeah? 1:27:11.000 --> 1:27:13.160 What what gets me is is everyone wants to be 1:27:13.280 --> 1:27:15.760 so silent when somebody's swinging and me, I kind of 1:27:15.800 --> 1:27:21.000 don't mind, Like, hey, boys play some music. Yeah I 1:27:21.120 --> 1:27:24.439 stopped watching me all right, Hey, but no doubt you 1:27:24.520 --> 1:27:26.160 definitely feel that way. It's more like, I hope I 1:27:26.200 --> 1:27:27.840 don't just roll this thing in front of me. But 1:27:28.240 --> 1:27:29.840 I was like I was getting them in the air 1:27:29.880 --> 1:27:31.560 and they were just going everywhere else you hit, But 1:27:31.560 --> 1:27:34.000 I don't mind. I didn't mind that at least I'm 1:27:34.000 --> 1:27:34.519 swinging them hit. 1:27:34.560 --> 1:27:36.600 I'll tell you what I love. What I going to 1:27:36.720 --> 1:27:39.200 like top golf, getting a pitching wedge out, hitting it 1:27:39.240 --> 1:27:41.040 completely wrong. I hit that thing one hundred and ninety. 1:27:41.160 --> 1:27:45.400 Yeah, I'm going to talk. You were about to compliment hit. 1:27:48.479 --> 1:27:50.120 Hit one. He got a hold of one and went 1:27:50.200 --> 1:27:52.080 like eight feet off the ground for like two hundred 1:27:52.080 --> 1:27:52.599 and eighty yards. 1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:53.840 Oh my god. 1:27:53.960 --> 1:27:57.400 And we just say, yeah, just like guy, this. 1:27:57.479 --> 1:27:59.920 Boy has been lifting weights a Chase. He was a 1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:02.719 fan of the old. Uh, I've been taking your cigar 1:28:02.800 --> 1:28:04.800 holder around you like that piece? Oh I've been, Yeah, 1:28:04.800 --> 1:28:05.600 I've been utilizing it. 1:28:06.160 --> 1:28:06.560 Who is it? 1:28:07.400 --> 1:28:07.640 This is. 1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:10.320 Hey Taylor. 1:28:11.840 --> 1:28:14.640 Chase, that's his tour manager. And he's also like he 1:28:14.760 --> 1:28:17.040 was claiming that Jack and Garrett are two of his 1:28:17.120 --> 1:28:17.920 boys that he grew up with. 1:28:18.840 --> 1:28:20.320 There you ever seen them play spike Ball? 1:28:21.640 --> 1:28:22.160 I haven't. 1:28:22.200 --> 1:28:28.760 Actually, Oh well they're actually one, two, three, four, fourth 1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:31.880 and fifth place on the bus right now talking about 1:28:31.880 --> 1:28:34.320 that spike Yeah, he's barstool tag this in that barstool. 1:28:34.479 --> 1:28:36.240 I did see that. 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