Speaker 1: Sean Weatherspoon aka Spoon Jones, part owner of Legacy Sports
Speaker 1: Complex here in Atlanta, Georgia, and I'm really enjoying myself
Speaker 1: being with the NFL Player Second Acts Podcast.
Speaker 2: Check them out.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the NFL Player Second Acts Podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm Peanut Tillman. This is my guy, Roman Harbor. What's up?
Speaker 2: What's up? Baby?
Speaker 4: Appreciate it man, No no nicknames, no nothing, getting straight
Speaker 4: to it. Got a great guest here, a former enemy
Speaker 4: of mind that I would always say it has always
Speaker 4: been a really good friend Lowki, just because he's a
Speaker 4: great person. But first and foremost, let me thank all
Speaker 4: of our listeners for always tuning in, and also iHeartRadio
Speaker 4: for allowing us to be in their studios right here
Speaker 4: in Atlanta Midtown or for all of us booshes want
Speaker 4: that out.
Speaker 3: There northwest at length. That don't even sound right, It doesn't.
Speaker 3: It sounds really weird. I like that they said this
Speaker 3: is where we're at Midtown. Sounds pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so let me introduce our guests. Guys.
Speaker 3: He's a first round picked out Missouri, played linebacker for
Speaker 3: seven seasons for the Cardinals and the Falcons. He's the
Speaker 3: co owner of Legacy Sports Complex and it's not just
Speaker 3: a gym. It's a training ground for champions. Ladies and Jim,
Speaker 3: please walk up to the pod Sean.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that it's not just a gymsus chap.
Speaker 2: I'ma I'm gonna go ahead and kick it off with
Speaker 2: the heat.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, don't be getting mad because it's not about everybody,
Speaker 3: but others want to know. Well, okay, okay, because like
Speaker 3: and we go, it's even deeper, right, it does go
Speaker 3: deeper because we can go to sec.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 4: But anyways, you go by Sean, but that's not your
Speaker 4: real government name, Franklin DeShawn Weathers.
Speaker 2: So why do you not go by it Franklin or
Speaker 2: frank when no one called me Franklin in my household?
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm from a small towns called Jasper, Texas,
Speaker 1: where it's like eight thousand people. So you know, we
Speaker 1: probably had like eight or nine teachers per grade, you know,
Speaker 1: so eight or nine different classes, and none of my
Speaker 1: teachers called me Franklin as well, So it was always
Speaker 1: the black teachers called me Deshaun and the white teachers
Speaker 1: called me Sean that's as it was growing up.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: That's kind of like the whole Charles thing, Like Peanut.
Speaker 3: No one in my my first my government name is Charles,
Speaker 3: but no one in my family like mom, dad, Auntie,
Speaker 3: mom and l like everybody, it's this is Peanut, right,
Speaker 3: It ain't none of that, Hey Charles. If my Charles
Speaker 3: Anthony I was in trouble, I probably I probably did
Speaker 3: something wrong. So yeah, I definitely feel you on that.
Speaker 3: That's uh yeah.
Speaker 4: And for somebody that's only been called his government name
Speaker 4: his whole life, I guess I'm not envious of that either,
Speaker 4: because I've only been called Roman.
Speaker 3: No mommy, had no nicknames, no nothing, nothing, Hey Salt
Speaker 3: and Pepper, Hey, hey Gray, Hey, none of that nothing.
Speaker 1: I always thought you were older than what you I
Speaker 1: saw you when I saw you, know, you show everybody
Speaker 1: you were one of the players from the Saints that
Speaker 1: you know, the Falcons had to find out where this
Speaker 1: guy was going to be, so they would show you
Speaker 1: a picture and I'm like, he's do it. And then
Speaker 1: I look at your age, I'm like, oh, he's not
Speaker 1: that much older than me. But it always kind of
Speaker 1: threw me off. But that's a good joke.
Speaker 3: Everyone thinks he's old man. Everyone think he had throw
Speaker 3: back player. He's been he's been on since his rookie
Speaker 3: year he got to the league, was og like his
Speaker 3: rookie year.
Speaker 2: How that happened?
Speaker 4: I do not, Well, it's funny, just because my vets
Speaker 4: that were in the room literally like, dude, did he
Speaker 4: go on like a mission trip? Did he like serving
Speaker 4: the armed forces for like four or five years? Where
Speaker 4: does dude coming from?
Speaker 2: It's just kind of it's been that way since I
Speaker 2: was in high school.
Speaker 3: So ho.
Speaker 4: But I'm just glad you guys actually noticed me a
Speaker 4: little bit, so it was all good.
Speaker 3: It ain't a blessing all that dot. Don't look at
Speaker 3: it like that. It's not a blessing.
Speaker 2: It's weird. And you know, likes to always joke like
Speaker 2: it's weird.
Speaker 4: What did you think the first time you saw roaming
Speaker 4: like in a program or the first time because everybody's like, dude,
Speaker 4: how old is that guy?
Speaker 1: So you've been dealing with that for a while. It
Speaker 1: gives you like a little secret sauce, like a little
Speaker 1: ass right there. The young guys might be like, oh
Speaker 1: he oh, but when you get out there in the
Speaker 1: post and you and you're strapping up, coming up with
Speaker 1: a pick or getting some sacks like he's been buying.
Speaker 3: Rome has been buying cigarette and booze for everybody since
Speaker 3: he was like fifteen years old.
Speaker 2: Making a little money on making little money on the side.
Speaker 2: That's literally what he was doing.
Speaker 3: So is it is it true that you were the
Speaker 3: first linebacker drafting the first round Atamazoo?
Speaker 2: I think so. I think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think I actually followed that stat to know that,
Speaker 1: but every time I go there, the way they treat me,
Speaker 1: it kind of always.
Speaker 2: Yeah, comes for most definitely, most definitely.
Speaker 1: And one thing I was proud of is I graduated
Speaker 1: early and each year I was a starter. I was
Speaker 1: an All Conference first team So that's something that a
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't do that as well.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, how often do you get to go back
Speaker 4: to m I z It's tough. It's hard to get there.
Speaker 2: Too, I mean not easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, once you fly into Kansas City or Saint Louis.
Speaker 1: He got a nice little trek down seventy or upsetn
Speaker 1: which way you're coming from.
Speaker 2: But I'll go once a year, maybe, you know.
Speaker 1: I like to get my kids back on the ground
Speaker 1: and let them kind of see the stomping grounds.
Speaker 2: And that's where I met their mom. So she's from
Speaker 2: Kansas City.
Speaker 1: My wife, Christine, So we tend to get back to
Speaker 1: Missouri at least a few times a year. My best
Speaker 1: friend Jeremy Macklin is coaching Kirkwood Pioneers, his high school
Speaker 1: in Saint Louis. They're in the playoffs, so we'll try
Speaker 1: to link up a little bit.
Speaker 2: How you know, you and Jeremy mack was like that.
Speaker 1: And roommates and the same pick consecutive draft. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that crazy. He was the four star recruit and
Speaker 1: I was the two star recruit, you know, so I
Speaker 1: always had him to look at and kind of strive
Speaker 1: for something, you know. Gary Pinkle didn't come to my house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went to a lot of the other guy's house,
Speaker 1: but Mattie Refluse came to my house. And flux is
Speaker 1: my guy who recruited me.
Speaker 4: And yeah, and so I've been on campus like once,
Speaker 4: so I haven't been there a lot.
Speaker 2: So I would love to go back.
Speaker 4: And you guys really do really really good things, and
Speaker 4: the program's going tremendously.
Speaker 2: It's an exciting town.
Speaker 1: You know, when the kids are in school, that's when
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's sad as best. You know, we're
Speaker 1: in summer, you know, it's kind of chill. You got
Speaker 1: the football players, you got the other athletes in town,
Speaker 1: but not so much going on.
Speaker 2: But when it's.
Speaker 1: Going down in Columbia and you have a good football team,
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of Atlanta. Like the stadium, it's
Speaker 1: always going to be popping when the team is popping.
Speaker 1: When the team isn't popping, it's not gonna you know,
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna like that. So you kind of got
Speaker 1: to earn it. And I respect that because you know,
Speaker 1: people work hard with their money and what they do
Speaker 1: with it is up to them, right absolutely. I went
Speaker 1: there back in oh six. I was a two star
Speaker 1: recruit man. Came in and just kind of had that
Speaker 1: chip on my shoulder and wanted to, you know, leave
Speaker 1: a legacy there. Got a chance to be around a
Speaker 1: lot of great people. And you know, that's the reason
Speaker 1: for success, I think, is being around great people in
Speaker 1: the time and of things. And Gary Pinkel the way
Speaker 1: he kind of called it to me, he was like,
Speaker 1: you're a big twelve guy, and now you know, drink
Speaker 1: will be saying you're yeah, sec. That's what he's telling
Speaker 1: the kids coming in to Missoo now. But it's a
Speaker 1: place that you know, I always try to get back to.
Speaker 1: I want to go there more often than I actually
Speaker 1: am able to get there because my roots are here now.
Speaker 1: But it's a great town, got some great food. The
Speaker 1: people are really nice. Everybody who I meet that are
Speaker 1: you know around this area. You got people that have
Speaker 1: allegiances with Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia. When they take that
Speaker 1: trip to Como, they always say, man, that's a good place. Man.
Speaker 2: The fans treat us with respect. For sure.
Speaker 1: It's a place where you can go and feel like
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about no baby cussing you
Speaker 1: out at ten am in the morning or eleven o'clock
Speaker 1: kick off.
Speaker 2: You want, you won't have to worry about that.
Speaker 1: Now, some places in the SEC that brown liquor gets
Speaker 1: going pretty early. So Columbia is a place where they
Speaker 1: treat you with class and you really feel welcome there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure Alabama's one of those.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, he's talking about Lut's not talking about were
Speaker 4: not like that.
Speaker 2: Completely that's LSU. But what I will say is that
Speaker 2: I went on.
Speaker 4: What I want to know is, so you had a
Speaker 4: great career at Missouri, you get to the NFL, you
Speaker 4: draft the first route.
Speaker 2: What was your first welcome to the NFL moment? Oh?
Speaker 1: Man, there was a guy by the name of Tony
Speaker 1: Gonzalez here, Oh yeah, and hated guard man. I bet
Speaker 1: you did, because his leverage was just something that was special. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I thought the older guys, you know, they
Speaker 1: would struggle with my my youth, you know, my athleticism,
Speaker 1: with me being able to run, and you know, I
Speaker 1: never really got in a hurry when I was guarding
Speaker 1: these guys. But I noticed that at the top of
Speaker 1: the route, Tony had the secret sauce. The secret sauce, right,
Speaker 1: So it was kind of cool. A lot of people
Speaker 1: get drafted and you go into your rookie minute camp.
Speaker 1: It was the opposite. I got drafted and in that
Speaker 1: Mother's Day weekend, I was out here with all the
Speaker 1: vets because our camp was a veteran camp. Right away,
Speaker 1: the whole team was boomed, so I'd have to make
Speaker 1: no calls or nothing. So being out there with Eric
Speaker 1: Coleman and Thomas day Cool, William Moore, Curtis Lofton, John Abraham,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of guys on our defense that he.
Speaker 2: Knew what was going on.
Speaker 1: Coy Wire was one of those guys, Mike Peterson, guys
Speaker 1: that really helped raise me. And so it was a
Speaker 1: different time in the league when I came in. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys probably was in two of days with
Speaker 1: past both practices. I was in two of days, but
Speaker 1: you know we didn't have passed in that second practice.
Speaker 1: But the older guys they did a good job of
Speaker 1: just bringing me along and not really having resentment towards
Speaker 1: me from me being the first round pick, who essentially
Speaker 1: is you know, coming here to play and maybe cut
Speaker 1: into your time. So I got a shout out Mike Peterson.
Speaker 1: He was the one that he called me the baby lion.
Speaker 1: He gave me a chance to really, you know, watch
Speaker 1: what a professional is and to kind of see, you know,
Speaker 1: how it should be done in that leadership role from
Speaker 1: you know, from being a linebacker. The team is always
Speaker 1: looking at you, right, and so my I think it
Speaker 1: was my third year, I was the will linebacker, but
Speaker 1: here I am with the headset. So I think that's
Speaker 1: a testament to the guys that I was around.
Speaker 2: But it was.
Speaker 1: Definitely Tony routing everybody up. He was routing everybody. I
Speaker 1: don't care who you were, you get to the top
Speaker 1: of the route. He doing some little, some little stuff
Speaker 1: to just get him open. And there was a guy
Speaker 1: by the name Coach Selfo, who was his tight end coach.
Speaker 1: He's from He's from Louisiana. I think, not too far
Speaker 1: from New Orleans actually, he I mean just bonafide that.
Speaker 1: You know. You come in as a young linebacker, you
Speaker 1: ready to go. I see Tony. I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta go out here. I gotta get it. I can
Speaker 1: make my mark. I can show everybody. You know what
Speaker 1: I can do. Because when I was drafted, I was
Speaker 1: drafted to cover Reggie Bush and so that was what
Speaker 1: they told me.
Speaker 2: Right then, Bone, this is what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: You're gonna day one, you're gonna be the dim linebacker.
Speaker 1: You might not play in the run game. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be something you're gonna have to earn, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a chance. That's to cover and show the skills
Speaker 1: I exemplified playing in the Big twelve because We threw
Speaker 1: the ball a lot, a lot of great tight ends
Speaker 1: in that conference that I and backs that I played
Speaker 1: against as well. So when I got here, you know,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna get Tony. So I went
Speaker 1: out there. He put it on the clinic on all
Speaker 1: the linebackers. Tom Brady came in town for training camp.
Speaker 1: He brought Gronk, he brought and Hernandez. They put on
Speaker 1: the clinic as well. So Hernandez saw, I mean, bro,
Speaker 1: whatever they want to say, one of the best football
Speaker 1: players I've ever seen. We signed with the same agent
Speaker 1: and Zach Robinson, the coordinator for the Foulers right now.
Speaker 1: We all lived in the same apartment complex, and the
Speaker 1: way that we would work and compete against each other.
Speaker 1: The only person to tell me he was going to
Speaker 1: hit me with a move and then actually hit me
Speaker 1: with the move. You know what I mean, man. He
Speaker 1: told me this in January, and we played in the
Speaker 1: fall and.
Speaker 2: He hit me with the same move.
Speaker 1: And I just got a chance to see the way
Speaker 1: that the veterans worked, you know, when I got here,
Speaker 1: and so Foe he was saying, he says, see that's
Speaker 1: bum don't touch eighty eight. You see that my kids
Speaker 1: going to college. He's in the weight room, just Tony
Speaker 1: out there do his work. Man.
Speaker 2: It's just excited. We all we all had a good
Speaker 2: time here.
Speaker 1: But that welcome to the League moment was definitely Tony Gonzalez.
Speaker 1: And it was kind of how everybody was talking about
Speaker 1: Rookie night coming up, Rookie dinner, Rookie dinner. The guys
Speaker 1: kept talking about it, you know, but I didn't get
Speaker 1: too you know, up or two down about it. I
Speaker 1: just kind of, I know I'm gonna have to, you know,
Speaker 1: take care of this night. But they took it a
Speaker 1: little easy on me. So, Yeah, I got.
Speaker 2: Rookie bringing the podcast.
Speaker 1: What you need me to do, I'm run down to
Speaker 1: your car at the hotel. You need me to whatever.
Speaker 1: I just did my part.
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that.
Speaker 4: That's universal too, Peanut that that Popeye is chicken, bro.
Speaker 2: Everyone did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had to before the games before you get
Speaker 3: on that play grease sweating all say no excuses.
Speaker 1: We got uber eats and changing terminals and stuff at
Speaker 1: the at the airport. You call in the airport, y'all
Speaker 1: got it because we actually had Pop's in the airport.
Speaker 1: That's love here, right, so all he had do is
Speaker 1: kind of just make sure that we're in the right place, right,
Speaker 1: and they would make it happen for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's lucky.
Speaker 3: That's so much love.
Speaker 2: So Rome played for the Saints.
Speaker 3: Then you went to Carolina for two years, and then
Speaker 3: you went back to the Saints. Something similar happened with you.
Speaker 3: You went to Atlanta for a few years, and you
Speaker 3: go to Arizona. What made you want to go back
Speaker 3: to the Falcons.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it.
Speaker 1: Was a place I'm familiar with, a place that showed
Speaker 1: me a lot of love. And once the business side
Speaker 1: of things started to happen, that's where the discrepancy started
Speaker 1: to come. And that's what ended up, you know, sending
Speaker 1: me out to Arizona. And so it was it was
Speaker 1: a few teams that called Flush was actually in he
Speaker 1: was down in Dallas, Okay. He was a linebackers coach there.
Speaker 1: So he's called, man, let's do it like we did
Speaker 1: it at Missoo. Because when I was at Missou we
Speaker 1: balled out here. We won like almost forty games. I
Speaker 1: mean it was we're gonna roll out the ball and
Speaker 1: we're gonna score some points and we're gonna get a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities on defense to make some plays. And
Speaker 1: I happened to be one of those guys, playing the
Speaker 1: will linebacker in a four to three system where the
Speaker 1: scheme was run through track and hammer, and I was
Speaker 1: a guy that was normally always tracking the ball inside out.
Speaker 1: That afforded me to make a lot of plays. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, I talked to Flus, He's like, spoom, come down.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I grew up a Cowboys fan, so you know,
Speaker 1: my parents threw some nice, you know, nineteen nineties parties
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys was doing their things. None of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys stuff was involved, just just King of Beers, you know,
Speaker 1: Budweiser and a little brown maybe. But the family had
Speaker 1: a good time celebrating during those times. And so I
Speaker 1: kind of had a nostalgic connection with that. And it's
Speaker 1: coach coach Flux who coached me at Missou.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It was like, ah, that
Speaker 2: was tough.
Speaker 1: And then Steve Kahan was the guy who I was
Speaker 1: close with during the process who was the GM for
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and he kind of always was a good
Speaker 1: friend of mine, and so we spoke a lot and
Speaker 1: he was like, bring me a nose tack, Bring me
Speaker 1: a nose tack, and I'm like, I got one. So
Speaker 1: one of my best friends, Corey jelly Bean Peters, played
Speaker 1: for a long time here in Atlanta, played his first
Speaker 1: I think five seasons. We went out to Arizona together,
Speaker 1: ended up staying out there playing six or seven more years,
Speaker 1: and then going to Jacksonville and now I think he's
Speaker 1: working with them. But so and then at the actual
Speaker 1: Saints called me too man soon. Sean Payton was a
Speaker 1: guy who I got a chance to speak with for
Speaker 1: a while and really kind of understand his philosophy. And
Speaker 1: the Saints were going through a lot of things defensively
Speaker 1: at that time to where he was calling Falcon players
Speaker 1: to come to come down there, you know, so I
Speaker 1: had a chance to speak with him. He had ties
Speaker 1: to Dallas as well, kind of you know, had a
Speaker 1: lot of respect for him in the way he did
Speaker 1: his thing down in New Orleans, and you know, it
Speaker 1: came down to those three teams and then staying in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So I knew I would I would have to do
Speaker 1: a one year deal because I ruptured my achilles the
Speaker 1: off season before my last year on my rookie contract,
Speaker 1: and so I didn't get a chance to be a
Speaker 1: part of you know, the fourteen team where I think
Speaker 1: you was in in Carolina, y'all came up. I think
Speaker 1: you guys might have been the last the last strawf
Speaker 1: of Mike Smith. It was the last game I've never seen.
Speaker 1: I've never seen this ever, Mike Smith. You know, I
Speaker 1: love Mike. He drafted me, changed my life. Him and
Speaker 1: Thomas the Metro, great guys. I love their scheme. You know,
Speaker 1: I had a good time in their scheme, some fun playet.
Speaker 1: But man, he was walking on fans and needles around here. Man,
Speaker 1: he's coming out of his office like he can't cut
Speaker 1: the music down because I'm not playing. But I'm the
Speaker 1: ultimate hype man to make sure these guys ready to go.
Speaker 1: So I'm playing the tunes.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: We we bumping, We got it rocking, and we're trying
Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, the division was kind
Speaker 1: of in the state that is in now.
Speaker 2: It was all over place like the Saints.
Speaker 4: Then they like lost the last six games of the year,
Speaker 4: and then Atlanta was ahead of us.
Speaker 2: We were like.
Speaker 4: And it was like next year we looked up Saints
Speaker 4: lost again and it was down between the Falcons and US.
Speaker 2: So we still had a chance to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And here goes a news report the Falcons have hired
Speaker 1: some outside firm to help them find their new coach.
Speaker 1: And that's why I could see why wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: even fire. We can still make the playoffs, So I
Speaker 1: see why. He was kind of, you know, smitty, we
Speaker 1: call them the silver Fox. He kind of you know,
Speaker 1: I got some, but he was. He was a little,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of on edge man, and so we
Speaker 1: ended up getting our butt kicked, our butts kicked in
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 2: It was a rough day, man.
Speaker 1: And so Dan Quinn comes in, he brings in his regime,
Speaker 1: right and they're talking about the Cover three that Seattle
Speaker 1: was running, which is the Cover three.
Speaker 2: I do not like, but I get it. And Quinn,
Speaker 2: you know, he was solid dude. Man.
Speaker 1: We talked beforehand. My wife at the time, she's just
Speaker 1: my lady. We're pregnant, you know, we're kind of trying
Speaker 1: to figure out life and what we're gonna do. And
Speaker 1: of course my daughter's on the way, and right as
Speaker 1: free agency starts, you know, we're in the hospital, and
Speaker 1: so we leave Atlanta to go to Arizona with a
Speaker 1: two week old baby. Man, So, I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of things going on in my life at the time.
Speaker 1: I was twenty seven, I want to say. And Arizona
Speaker 1: they gave me The Falcons said they paid me good
Speaker 1: enough for me to just say, hey, I want to
Speaker 1: be here at all cops, right, So that's kind of
Speaker 1: the contract they offered me.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, na, we're not gonna rock like that.
Speaker 1: So dan Quinn was like, spowned, I respect it, I understand,
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. The Saints gave me a
Speaker 1: nice little offer and then Arizona matched it, and then
Speaker 1: I could take my best friend with me to go
Speaker 1: play nose tackle and he get his deal, and everything
Speaker 1: kind of just made since their team was a good team.
Speaker 1: Collais Campbell a beast of a human, a great human.
Speaker 1: He's still a player, got still getting sacks. It was
Speaker 1: a great place for me to go and just kind
Speaker 1: of just you know, learn to be an adult. You know,
Speaker 1: Atlanta is a little it's a little wild out here
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. You get out here, you twenty two years old,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of things that can distract you, but
Speaker 1: ultimately the first three years we win in football games.
Speaker 1: We won thirty six games in the regular season my
Speaker 1: first two years. I'm thinking that's just what you do, right,
Speaker 1: And so that that fourth year, I was a little
Speaker 1: banged up, miss some games. That was the first year
Speaker 1: you could be on IR and be designated to return.
Speaker 1: So I was one of the players that did that,
Speaker 1: and it just didn't bowl well for me. And then
Speaker 1: I'm really working hard that off season looking forward to
Speaker 1: that that last year on my contract, and then bone
Speaker 1: the Achilles went so Falcons, you know, they treated me
Speaker 1: the business side of things, pushed me to Arizona. Yeah,
Speaker 1: went out to a z and Ba. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys know Ba, but he's a wild boy.
Speaker 1: He's a wild boy, so Bruce, he gonna he he
Speaker 1: likened me to Dan. He's a spoon trying to hit
Speaker 1: us with the dance. But he don't want to practice.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Bro, I ain't played since twenty twelve in
Speaker 1: the way I want to play. I haven't played since
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen where I started a game. Here it is
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. I don't want to miss practice. I want
Speaker 1: to go out and do all I can. So I
Speaker 1: can you know, prove to myself that I can still
Speaker 1: do this. Also put myself in a position to where financially,
Speaker 1: I'll have an opportunity to, you know, drop some roots
Speaker 1: in Arizona if I like to, or go see what
Speaker 1: other team I might you know, like, and so pull
Speaker 1: my hamsteing in training camp, miss some time. God by
Speaker 1: the name of Kevin Minter, God by the name of
Speaker 1: day On Buchanan. Both of these guys are think first
Speaker 1: and second round picks by Steve Kahan. They had a
Speaker 1: chance to really, you know, show what they could do.
Speaker 1: They brought Dayon in the box and he was able
Speaker 1: to play linebacker, and so they play well. And I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, they want to pay me almost five
Speaker 1: million dollars for you know, to cover the running back
Speaker 1: and the tight end. I'll just get healthy, you know.
Speaker 1: So got a chance to get healthy, contributed as much
Speaker 1: as I could. We made the championship game, and then
Speaker 1: we went to Carolina. We threw six picks in that game.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna win that game on the road. And
Speaker 1: I think that was a year you were you got
Speaker 1: to call yeah, We're yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you guys that joined up, y'all teamed up and
Speaker 1: I made the super Bowl and then Atlanta. You know,
Speaker 1: they were in a position where the guys they wanted,
Speaker 1: you know, to play the linebacker in fifteen, it was
Speaker 1: an eight and eight season, so they wanted to get better,
Speaker 1: but ultimately they wanted to bring me back to kind
Speaker 1: of be you know, the vet, the face, the smile,
Speaker 1: get everybody going.
Speaker 2: But I'm coming back. I'm like, man, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to eat. I hit the ground running.
Speaker 1: They drafted Devondre Campbell, Deon Jones, some guys who can
Speaker 1: really play some ball. In Deon, I'm like, man, def
Speaker 1: Andre was actually all pro to. So both of those
Speaker 1: guys really, you know, we raised Philip Wheeler was here.
Speaker 1: Patrick Warlow, I'm sorry, remember Pat, Paul. I'm sorry, Paul.
Speaker 1: Don't get me for that peed up. He did a
Speaker 1: good job of filling in and making plays. I never
Speaker 1: seen a guy get back to back games with you know,
Speaker 1: nineteen tackles in the NFL, and he's a that's did
Speaker 1: that and knock them down against Carolina too, I think
Speaker 1: one year. But came back here and we had the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. So it was a heck of a
Speaker 1: year man, I hit the ground running. I didn't start
Speaker 1: the first game. But one thing about dan Quinn, they
Speaker 1: they kind of they'll they'll do some things in practice
Speaker 1: to really show who's who's getting after it, right, So
Speaker 1: they're telling me they don't want me to do the
Speaker 1: same things I did here in Atlanta. We kind of
Speaker 1: bringing you in a different role. I shook his hand,
Speaker 1: I said, thanks. I'm gonna go out every day and
Speaker 1: just try to be me. Make it hard on you guys.
Speaker 1: That's my job, right. So every so often my picture
Speaker 1: would go up in the in the practice in the
Speaker 1: film room for being, you know, the most productive player
Speaker 1: at practice. You get to sign your name. Boom, picture
Speaker 1: go up, Picture go up. Might be a couple of pictures. Spoons, Spoon, Campbell, Spoons, Spoon, Jones, Spoon, Renolds,
Speaker 1: Leroy Reynolds, another special team Demon, really good linebacker two
Speaker 1: who played on that team, Philip Willi pop up their warlow.
Speaker 1: And so everybody got an opportunity to play, you know,
Speaker 1: because we were a young team. But Campbell ended up
Speaker 1: spraining his ankle pretty good and I got a chance
Speaker 1: to start. So I hadn't started for the Falcons since
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, and then I started the next three games,
Speaker 1: and in the first four games, I think we were
Speaker 1: three on one, and in the games I started, we
Speaker 1: won all those games. So here I am twenty eight,
Speaker 1: feeling good back, you know, great to be back in
Speaker 1: the city, playing some really good ball.
Speaker 2: And then the other Achilles went.
Speaker 1: So then I just kind of went into a role
Speaker 1: where I was helping those guys be you know, kind
Speaker 1: of trying to do what Mike Peterson and.
Speaker 2: Corey Wire and I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: And I think Andy Reid came in here and whooped
Speaker 1: up on us, and then all of a sudden, that
Speaker 1: team just said, boom, we figured it out. And those
Speaker 1: young guys, man, they beat Green Bay late in the game.
Speaker 1: Mohamed Sanu, my business partner and former teammate, my brother,
Speaker 1: he happened to win that game against Aaron Rodgers with
Speaker 1: the last touchdown, and man, we had a heck of
Speaker 1: the year.
Speaker 2: And then Tom Brady ruined it, you know, and.
Speaker 3: Then and then next year, I'm Brady.
Speaker 1: Next year, you know, I'm rehabbing, and you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't get an opportunity to get you know, off the
Speaker 1: ground for real. But that ended up being my last
Speaker 1: year twenty seventeen, and so the last time my dress
Speaker 1: was against the later in the season that year. Man
Speaker 1: and been in Atlanta every since, man, raising my kids
Speaker 1: and you know, just trying to figure things out, pulling
Speaker 1: out my golf swing here and there, and I.
Speaker 2: Just get it. Just enjoying life. We'll be back in
Speaker 2: a minute.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about your your your second act, what you're
Speaker 3: doing now. And you mentioned earlier Mohammed Sanu, your business partner, yep.
Speaker 3: I want you to tell us how you even got
Speaker 3: into that, the Legacy Sports Complex. How did you even
Speaker 3: get into this?
Speaker 1: Well, I've always been the guy who kind of get
Speaker 1: the other guys going, kind of get them in the
Speaker 1: right place, you know. I always I always took that
Speaker 1: to be something I really wanted to do, like not
Speaker 1: just know what I'm doing, but why I'm doing it,
Speaker 1: and then trying to share the knowledge with the other
Speaker 1: guys as well. And so that comes from my mom.
Speaker 1: She was a teacher in Jasper for like thirty thirty
Speaker 1: two years, you know, so she kind of instilled that
Speaker 1: in me. And so my son and Mohammed's son are
Speaker 1: about thirteen months apart, maybe twelve, about a year apart.
Speaker 1: So these guys hang out a lot, right because you know,
Speaker 1: me and Moe become teammates, obviously, the ladies come become friends,
Speaker 1: and then we're having kids, we're growing and so MJ.
Speaker 1: That's Mold's son, he's nine, and then my son, baby Sean,
Speaker 1: he's eight. They ended up just just really locking in.
Speaker 1: And so they live in Gwinnett. I'm in the cab,
Speaker 1: so every so often my son would be out staying
Speaker 1: at their place, and most started taking MJ to a
Speaker 1: gym not too far from their house, and he's just
Speaker 1: kind of sitting back watching what's going on at the gym.
Speaker 1: And first of all, you see a sense of community
Speaker 1: and the kids in Gwinnett.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a different place, man.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of how I grew up in Texas,
Speaker 1: because like when you rolled out of football, then everybody's
Speaker 1: you know, wide eyed, trying to figure out, you know,
Speaker 1: what they need to do in order to be out
Speaker 1: there so they don't lose like their brothers did.
Speaker 2: When they were young.
Speaker 1: Right, Like that's I remember being in the car telling
Speaker 1: my mom, we ain't gonna lose when it's my turnout,
Speaker 1: Like and we didn't win state either, but anyway, it's
Speaker 1: just that DNA, that DNA, like you're gonna love ball,
Speaker 1: You're gonna hit, you're gonna run, you're gonna talk some
Speaker 1: smack and have a good time.
Speaker 2: And so I saw that in the gym, yeah, with
Speaker 2: the kids.
Speaker 1: Moe was telling me about it and then he ended
Speaker 1: up going on board with them, and so once he
Speaker 1: got on board, he ended up bringing me to the gym.
Speaker 1: And I'm watching the kids work out and seeing kind
Speaker 1: of how it's going in our partner, Dustin Chavannik, and
Speaker 1: also Christian Blake, who's another wide receiver played with the
Speaker 1: Falcons out of n IU. He's another partner in the
Speaker 1: gym too, so he's in his second act as well.
Speaker 1: And so I just got a chance to be around
Speaker 1: these people and see the community and what it's doing
Speaker 1: for the youth there. And you got all kinds of
Speaker 1: sports in there. It's not just a football gym. It's
Speaker 1: a baseball gym, it's a mma gym, it's a wrestling gym,
Speaker 1: it's a you know, the moms are in there the
Speaker 1: boot camp. I see the Falcons wives, the coaches wives
Speaker 1: are in there doing boot camps. In the morning. And
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's just trying to get better and better themselves.
Speaker 1: And that makes me feel good to see people, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to be better. And so I watched it for
Speaker 1: a while and then trying to figure out ways that
Speaker 1: it could make sense for me, and so I ended
Speaker 1: up coming on board. And now here we are on
Speaker 1: third location, looking at our fourth location here in this
Speaker 1: metro area.
Speaker 4: Man, so you guys are almost expanding like franchises, Yes,
Speaker 4: because like explain this whole business model, because you see
Speaker 4: it at one place and you said, it's the community
Speaker 4: there that you know, that's what attracted you to. It
Speaker 4: was the space and the people inside of Yes, So
Speaker 4: you take that put it in another building somewhere else.
Speaker 4: You don't have the same people, yeah, but you do
Speaker 4: have the same people. But you do you do because
Speaker 4: we're running all over Georgia.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm from Hoshton where the new gym is, to Lawrenceville,
Speaker 1: to Swanee and even checking out the new spot and
Speaker 1: ken that we're looking at, you know, so it's a
Speaker 1: lot of hey, bro, what you got today? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so everybody's kind of we all got the secret sauce
Speaker 1: because we've done it right.
Speaker 4: And it's the emotion too, that's what you're saying. Like, dude,
Speaker 4: I've been a hype man since right, because I've been
Speaker 4: a hype right.
Speaker 1: So we're bringing we're bringing other people on and just
Speaker 1: trying to instill our values in them. If that's just
Speaker 1: the way we live our lives and the way we
Speaker 1: are on the turf with the kids, and just how
Speaker 1: we respect people. And I think that's something that's drawn
Speaker 1: a lot of people to come to the facility. And
Speaker 1: I think Moe was late today because he's meeting with
Speaker 1: North Side Hospital and so I wasn't able to get
Speaker 1: out there this morning.
Speaker 2: But they're looking to come in, come in on board,
Speaker 2: and you.
Speaker 1: Know, facilitate you know, the fees so other kids can
Speaker 1: even come into this gym.
Speaker 3: Yeah, specifically, I want to talk about the business side.
Speaker 3: You guys just focused on the youth, like young kids. No, No,
Speaker 3: you don't, not at all, not at all. So the
Speaker 3: youth is kind of where my heart is.
Speaker 1: But I think some of my business partners they're kind
Speaker 1: of looking at it to be one of those places
Speaker 1: where guys can have their combine training there, where they
Speaker 1: can actually rent out the space. I mean, because the
Speaker 1: youth don't need the seven like sauna. The youth is
Speaker 1: not doing cryo therapy, the youth is not using the
Speaker 1: hot Cat. But all these gems have all of these
Speaker 1: amenities there, and so we would definitely like to grow
Speaker 1: it to the fact to where, like I said, like
Speaker 1: an act, like an agency like athletes. First, my agency
Speaker 1: could have their guys come in Boom and they know
Speaker 1: if they're in Atlanta, they can they can.
Speaker 2: Do that thing.
Speaker 1: It's competing, right, It's competing with D One, it's competing
Speaker 1: with Exos, And actually an NFL actually gives us benefits
Speaker 1: through EXOS. But I don't even go to EXOS because
Speaker 1: we have Barbara Orthopedic and their therapy people right in
Speaker 1: our space. So I can go there and get PRP
Speaker 1: in my own gym and be in my the seven
Speaker 1: Light signer, the cryo therapy, get all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: it kind of keeps my body young too, because I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about doing some more things with my body
Speaker 1: as well. I just got off the phone with my
Speaker 1: buddy Russell Okung and he just he just partnered with Abby. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pay me in bitcoin, and so he's gonna pay me
Speaker 1: in bitcoin and go out to the Abby Dobby and
Speaker 1: run around in the seven H seven flag game and
Speaker 1: maybe grow the game a little bit more there.
Speaker 2: So it's exciting.
Speaker 1: It's exciting to give back also for my buddies to
Speaker 1: be in town that are still playing and I can
Speaker 1: send there to my place, you know, and the first
Speaker 1: time I just say, man, y'all go sign their waver.
Speaker 2: Now, got some expensive legs, got some expensive needs.
Speaker 4: Indeed, what is the vision for you guys like you
Speaker 4: had like, Okay, what is the end zone?
Speaker 2: What is the touchdown? What does the super Bowl like?
Speaker 2: What does that look like?
Speaker 1: I can't say that for everybody, but I can say
Speaker 1: that for me. I think the the end zone for
Speaker 1: me is to just know that you know, the name
Speaker 1: is called legacy. That's one thing that really stood out
Speaker 1: for me. I want my kids to be in an
Speaker 1: environment where they have all the opportunities to do everything
Speaker 1: they want to do athletically, and I'm going to facilitate
Speaker 1: everything they're going to do educationally and then teach them
Speaker 1: how to be humans. So that's that's all I want,
Speaker 1: good humans. That's all I want to do. I think
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if I take care
Speaker 1: of that part, just doing my part, then everything else
Speaker 1: it's going to be somebody cut a check at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, and I don't even care about that.
Speaker 1: That'd be great because you know what you're able to
Speaker 1: do with that. But at the same time, ultimately I
Speaker 1: want to do something good while I'm here.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's my that's my vision. Yeah, now are you?
Speaker 2: Are you training the kids sometimes?
Speaker 1: Sometimes like today, you know, I'm not I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be on the turf today because my son, he
Speaker 1: is a wild boy.
Speaker 2: He's eight years old.
Speaker 1: He's in UFA Metro Soccer, he's in fall baseball, he's
Speaker 1: in spring baseball, he's in basketball, he's in football. We
Speaker 1: have a seven on seventeen through Legacy as well, and
Speaker 1: we were actually ranked in Pylon. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know. PILAND is kind of like the biggest governing body.
Speaker 1: They put on the biggest you know, kind of seven
Speaker 1: on seven camps. That's where cam was out there, you know,
Speaker 1: whooping them up and nobody tries pulling.
Speaker 4: Out, but they was trying camp out there.
Speaker 2: I guess when you get.
Speaker 1: Older, they always try and camp, you know, you know
Speaker 1: how it is, It's that jealousy man, and Cam is flamboyant,
Speaker 1: it is, and so you know he has an a
Speaker 1: way too big to do.
Speaker 2: What do y'all doing? What do you think? What do
Speaker 2: you think is bigger than you think? Yeah? So were you?
Speaker 2: I agree? I agree? Yeah, you ain't no regular cornerback.
Speaker 2: You know. It's some big guys.
Speaker 1: That's one thing that kind of shocked me when I
Speaker 1: got to the pros to see how big guys are
Speaker 1: that are athletic and can move, because I always always
Speaker 1: knew how I was different.
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, yeah, I can run.
Speaker 1: I could be two fifty in still run for six
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm like, man, seeing like cornerback six
Speaker 1: foot three six two ten, two fifteen and moving and
Speaker 1: you know, being functional in.
Speaker 2: Space and things like that, that was different from me.
Speaker 1: And then to see the small guys do their thing
Speaker 1: as well, like the water bugs.
Speaker 2: Still find a way. Those ones, I hate it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: those are the worst ones. Like FROs he was on
Speaker 2: your team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, that's why I mean I would leave the
Speaker 1: game feeling like I give up forty yards and I
Speaker 1: feel like I got work, And I'm like, bro, that's
Speaker 1: good against him, you know, like he was serious, bro,
Speaker 1: But I mean the amount of exertion that you would
Speaker 1: have playing against some of these guys in the league.
Speaker 2: Your energy, Bro, you just be pooped after the game. Bro. Yeah, crazy.
Speaker 4: I want to know this because this is probably that'll
Speaker 4: be a one hundred percent honest I don't I didn't
Speaker 4: love a lot of things about Atlanta or you guys
Speaker 4: as teams.
Speaker 2: But y'all was beefing. Bro. You why was y'all beefing
Speaker 2: so much?
Speaker 1: Like remember jay Z saying, like people larguet over the
Speaker 1: over the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: They know, you know what I'm saying. I like, b
Speaker 2: it was me and Roddy was so bad at times.
Speaker 4: It was so bad, and it just like infused everybody
Speaker 4: on offense just got They were just hated me and
Speaker 4: I hated them. It was bad. It was mutual, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I know, it was very mutual. My favorite thing though,
Speaker 4: was you and your celebration the spoon. Yeah, I should
Speaker 4: have pattened that thing. You should have patten that. That
Speaker 4: was like and I didn't understand it the first three
Speaker 4: or four times I saw you do it.
Speaker 2: And then when.
Speaker 4: Curtis Lofton came to us and everything, he really like
Speaker 4: broke it down.
Speaker 2: I was like, can you gotta explained? They explained it's
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go ahead and talk about it.
Speaker 1: So it kind of started back at Missou okay, But
Speaker 1: like I told you, Gary Pinkle kind of comes from
Speaker 1: Don James, the Nick Saban Tree, like they don't let
Speaker 1: you do nothing fun.
Speaker 2: Socks black and my socks white.
Speaker 1: Somebody in trouble, you're gonna get everybody gonna look alike,
Speaker 1: you're gonna say the right thing.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be on you know.
Speaker 1: So at practice I would kind of first it started
Speaker 1: with me like this, Hey, I'm eating out here, you know,
Speaker 1: And then I was.
Speaker 2: Like, man, I'm really eating. So I did it, and
Speaker 2: then he like showed us on film. Now we're not
Speaker 2: gonna do that.
Speaker 1: That's how Coach Pinker's like, we're not gonna have any
Speaker 1: of his knee stuff. I remember a guy by the
Speaker 1: name of Alden Smith was counting his sacks one game
Speaker 1: and great, great player.
Speaker 2: He was counting the sacks and we didn't spill no
Speaker 2: way about it. Get some more count the more.
Speaker 1: But he had to apologize to the team for counting
Speaker 1: his sacks in the game and he had three sacks.
Speaker 1: I mean, he ultimately won the game for us, but
Speaker 1: who cares, bro It's gonna be about doing it the
Speaker 1: right way, and it's gonna be about the name on
Speaker 1: the front more than it was about the name on
Speaker 1: the back.
Speaker 2: And so Coach Pinkle wouldn't let me do it at Missou.
Speaker 2: So I never did it in.
Speaker 1: Any of the games. I never did it in practice
Speaker 1: after the one time he told me not to do it.
Speaker 1: And so when I got here, my first sack was
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. We played the second game, I sacked
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson. I started eating right, Kurt slapped me on
Speaker 1: the head, and it just kind of evolved like throughout
Speaker 1: the year. I remember there was a guy by the
Speaker 1: name a Little Bee who was like a rapper, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And he thinks to call him
Speaker 1: the base guy.
Speaker 2: His dance was eating or he'd be cooking or something,
Speaker 2: but always he do that.
Speaker 1: So it kind of evolved to where I might have
Speaker 1: pulled something out, you know, and ate a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit more deliberate with my choice of food.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's so like when you when you kiss the rookie
Speaker 1: years just so, but when you unsheathe it. It becomes
Speaker 1: a weapon, you know, you gotta do every time I
Speaker 1: do it, and when you pull it out and then
Speaker 1: you let him know you like this, this what's going
Speaker 1: down there. So I got a chance to pull that
Speaker 1: thing out a little bit down there in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Sometimes and sometimes you make a play that doesn't need that,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't need that, Like it has to
Speaker 1: be like okay, you letting him know, like okay, I'm
Speaker 1: really I'm I'm on you right now.
Speaker 4: Even my funnest one, the funnest ones I enjoyed you
Speaker 4: do was even when you wouldn't eat, you just show
Speaker 4: us this.
Speaker 2: I might just put it. I might put it back
Speaker 2: and then cool.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool because like you make a play and
Speaker 1: you look in the stands are you look at the
Speaker 1: sideline for your teammates.
Speaker 2: So it became something that was fun.
Speaker 1: Man, there was actually a spoon man in Atlanta bro
Speaker 1: He had spoons all over his jacket is his blazer,
Speaker 1: and they would come with the big foil spoons in
Speaker 1: the prime time games. And man, one time I ran
Speaker 1: through on Peyton Manning and they got knocked the ball
Speaker 1: down or something, and I pulled out both of them
Speaker 1: and yeah, we got to eat double against this guy
Speaker 1: right here right. He was disgusted man, and we won
Speaker 1: the game of Monday Night. It was pretty cool. And
Speaker 1: then guy by the name of Zeke he kind of
Speaker 1: took it and further. And then there was another guy
Speaker 1: by the name he was a safety. I'm a swag.
Speaker 1: What's his name though, I'm drawing a blank right now.
Speaker 1: Gratis are some safety smaller swaringer DJ. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: a part of that. He was a part of the
Speaker 1: Arizona team too. Had so much town in Arizona. It
Speaker 1: was crazy as no way we should lose to y'all
Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. I mean to go to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That team was so much more talent than
Speaker 1: your team. But you guys, you guys got it. But
Speaker 1: thank you, Sweat and he pulled out too. I've never
Speaker 1: seen nobody love football like him though. He walk around
Speaker 1: football like it looked like how you're learning, Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: the other not how you're learning the program? Darnell Jefferson
Speaker 1: walking around with the ball. That was DJ Swaaron. Just
Speaker 1: once I met him, I was like, all right, but
Speaker 1: you can eat, bro, It's cool you like to eat.
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. Well, I got a
Speaker 2: question for you.
Speaker 4: And we try and ask this the majority of our
Speaker 4: guess and it usually brings out a little bit of
Speaker 4: a mindset. And all right, Mount Rushmore, get four people,
Speaker 4: four people of the biggest influence to make you, Seawan
Speaker 4: Wetherspoon to who you are and get you to where
Speaker 4: you are right now?
Speaker 2: Who those four people be, Man, it gotta be my
Speaker 2: mom and put my mom there.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my dad there because you know, I
Speaker 1: saw my dad go to work his whole life.
Speaker 2: So my mom go to work her whole life.
Speaker 1: And they instilled in me to be somebody to get
Speaker 1: up off your butt and go do something and also
Speaker 1: be a respectful person. So I gotta just the way
Speaker 1: I think about, you know, dealing with people, it comes
Speaker 1: from them. And then my dad, he showed me the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, So I gotta I gotta put them up
Speaker 1: there now. If anything else, it's it's gonna be. This's
Speaker 1: gonna be a family thing for me. Bro I'm not looking.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think, you know, the dynamic, the
Speaker 1: family dynamic is kind of a little weird now, But
Speaker 1: I'm that kid that's the baby of four and so
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my big bro. My big bro. He
Speaker 1: the first one to go make sure my parents didn't
Speaker 1: have to pay for school. He went to Stephen F.
Speaker 1: Boston University. Started started as a truck. He's heat Nachadoches,
Speaker 1: which is the brother of nackat Is, those two Indian chiefs.
Speaker 2: But he spurned Northwestern State to go to Stephen F. Austin.
Speaker 1: And Jeremy Trotter is his big bro. And so trot
Speaker 1: was like two sixty like just sitting in the middle
Speaker 1: back in the nineties, just coming through just like he
Speaker 1: did in the league, just coming through and yeah, man,
Speaker 1: and he was that acts on his was pretty his
Speaker 1: was pretty dope too. But big bro, I got a
Speaker 1: shout out, big bro Te that's my oldest brother play
Speaker 1: linebacker as well. And then after that, mmm, that the
Speaker 1: fourth one, Who's I looking at? Man? Who's I looking at?
Speaker 1: It would have to be when it comes to football,
Speaker 1: it was Barry Sanders, Barry Man. So it's Barry Sanders.
Speaker 1: That's what made me like just really love the game.
Speaker 1: My big brother who exemplified, like this, how you do it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then my dad and my mom for creating me
Speaker 1: and treating you know, teaching me how to be an adult,
Speaker 1: how to be a human, a good human. Now that
Speaker 1: I'm an adult. It's really showing off. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: my that's my Mount Rushmore. I don't look outside to
Speaker 1: the other things.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I respect the outside, but I take what I need
Speaker 1: to take, you know, and not use my discernment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your Mount Rushmore and you can put whoever you
Speaker 3: are man's that's a beautiful mount Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. I've heard great things about you, bro,
Speaker 2: and you didn't let me down today. Appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you guys, you know, had me in here.
Speaker 2: You guys doing a great job with it.
Speaker 1: I got a shout out my pot while I'm here too,
Speaker 1: True the True Signs Podcast with myself, Jeremy Macklin my
Speaker 1: college you know, buddy. So it's me Jay mack and
Speaker 1: then my buddy Kevin Rutland. So Kevin played corner for
Speaker 1: the Jags. He came in in the lockout year and
Speaker 1: Kevin's he's kind of he's a Missouri legend to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like Max the Missou legend on offense, I'm one
Speaker 1: of the Missou legends on defense and so Kevin's in
Speaker 1: the middle. He's kind of like doing what you guys doing,
Speaker 1: kind of directing it, and me and Mack kind of
Speaker 1: just talking. You know, we're talking ball talking about Missou
Speaker 1: because right now it's going down.
Speaker 2: So let him do the heavy lifting. Dog you come
Speaker 2: in there and put the swag on exactly.
Speaker 1: Aaron Murray is actually the guy who partnered with us
Speaker 1: at TPL, which is called The Players Lounge. Chase Daniel
Speaker 1: kind of hooked us up with Aaron, and so Aaron's
Speaker 1: producing our show and it's called The True Sons Podcast.
Speaker 2: You guys can check it out on all the platforms.
Speaker 2: Awesome there it is, y'all. Go check that out, figure
Speaker 2: it out. You're gonna get us out of you want
Speaker 2: me to do it? Think you do it?
Speaker 4: Man, You can flow to you right now. You know
Speaker 4: I am filling that flow. It's because Atlanta falcons around us.
Speaker 4: Man naturally perk up and defenders. Anyways, man, thank you
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Speaker 2: You were blessing brother. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Thank you man dude, you did not disappointment, not at
Speaker 4: all much. Appreciate that.
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