1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Sean Weatherspoon aka Spoon Jones, part owner of Legacy Sports 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Complex here in Atlanta, Georgia, and I'm really enjoying myself 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: being with the NFL Player Second Acts Podcast. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: Check them out. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 3: Welcome to the NFL Player Second Acts Podcast. 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm Peanut Tillman. This is my guy, Roman Harbor. What's up? 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: What's up? Baby? 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 4: Appreciate it man, No no nicknames, no nothing, getting straight 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 4: to it. Got a great guest here, a former enemy 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 4: of mind that I would always say it has always 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 4: been a really good friend Lowki, just because he's a 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 4: great person. But first and foremost, let me thank all 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 4: of our listeners for always tuning in, and also iHeartRadio 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: for allowing us to be in their studios right here 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: in Atlanta Midtown or for all of us booshes want 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: that out. 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: There northwest at length. That don't even sound right, It doesn't. 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: It sounds really weird. I like that they said this 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 3: is where we're at Midtown. Sounds pretty good. 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so let me introduce our guests. Guys. 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: He's a first round picked out Missouri, played linebacker for 22 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: seven seasons for the Cardinals and the Falcons. He's the 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: co owner of Legacy Sports Complex and it's not just 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: a gym. It's a training ground for champions. Ladies and Jim, 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: please walk up to the pod Sean. 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for having me. Yeah, I like that. 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 3: I like that it's not just a gymsus chap. 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: I'ma I'm gonna go ahead and kick it off with 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: the heat. 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: Okay, Now, don't be getting mad because it's not about everybody, 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: but others want to know. Well, okay, okay, because like 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: and we go, it's even deeper, right, it does go 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: deeper because we can go to sec. 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: Two. 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: But anyways, you go by Sean, but that's not your 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: real government name, Franklin DeShawn Weathers. 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: So why do you not go by it Franklin or 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: frank when no one called me Franklin in my household? 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm from a small towns called Jasper, Texas, 40 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: where it's like eight thousand people. So you know, we 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: probably had like eight or nine teachers per grade, you know, 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: so eight or nine different classes, and none of my 43 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: teachers called me Franklin as well, So it was always 44 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: the black teachers called me Deshaun and the white teachers 45 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: called me Sean that's as it was growing up. 46 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 47 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: That's kind of like the whole Charles thing, Like Peanut. 48 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: No one in my my first my government name is Charles, 49 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: but no one in my family like mom, dad, Auntie, 50 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: mom and l like everybody, it's this is Peanut, right, 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: It ain't none of that, Hey Charles. If my Charles 52 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 3: Anthony I was in trouble, I probably I probably did 53 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: something wrong. So yeah, I definitely feel you on that. 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: That's uh yeah. 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: And for somebody that's only been called his government name 56 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: his whole life, I guess I'm not envious of that either, 57 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: because I've only been called Roman. 58 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: No mommy, had no nicknames, no nothing, nothing, Hey Salt 59 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: and Pepper, Hey, hey Gray, Hey, none of that nothing. 60 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: I always thought you were older than what you I 61 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: saw you when I saw you, know, you show everybody 62 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: you were one of the players from the Saints that 63 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, the Falcons had to find out where this 64 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: guy was going to be, so they would show you 65 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: a picture and I'm like, he's do it. And then 66 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: I look at your age, I'm like, oh, he's not 67 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: that much older than me. But it always kind of 68 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: threw me off. But that's a good joke. 69 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: Everyone thinks he's old man. Everyone think he had throw 70 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: back player. He's been he's been on since his rookie 71 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 3: year he got to the league, was og like his 72 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: rookie year. 73 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: How that happened? 74 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 4: I do not, Well, it's funny, just because my vets 75 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: that were in the room literally like, dude, did he 76 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: go on like a mission trip? Did he like serving 77 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: the armed forces for like four or five years? Where 78 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 4: does dude coming from? 79 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: It's just kind of it's been that way since I 80 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: was in high school. 81 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: So ho. 82 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: But I'm just glad you guys actually noticed me a 83 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: little bit, so it was all good. 84 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: It ain't a blessing all that dot. Don't look at 85 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: it like that. It's not a blessing. 86 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: It's weird. And you know, likes to always joke like 87 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: it's weird. 88 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 4: What did you think the first time you saw roaming 89 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: like in a program or the first time because everybody's like, dude, 90 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: how old is that guy? 91 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: So you've been dealing with that for a while. It 92 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: gives you like a little secret sauce, like a little 93 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: ass right there. The young guys might be like, oh 94 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: he oh, but when you get out there in the 95 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: post and you and you're strapping up, coming up with 96 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: a pick or getting some sacks like he's been buying. 97 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: Rome has been buying cigarette and booze for everybody since 98 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: he was like fifteen years old. 99 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: Making a little money on making little money on the side. 100 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: That's literally what he was doing. 101 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: So is it is it true that you were the 102 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: first linebacker drafting the first round Atamazoo? 103 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: I think so. I think so. 104 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I actually followed that stat to know that, 105 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: but every time I go there, the way they treat me, 106 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: it kind of always. 107 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, comes for most definitely, most definitely. 108 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: And one thing I was proud of is I graduated 109 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: early and each year I was a starter. I was 110 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: an All Conference first team So that's something that a 111 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: lot of people didn't do that as well. 112 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: So, yeah, how often do you get to go back 113 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: to m I z It's tough. It's hard to get there. 114 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: Too, I mean not easy. 115 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, once you fly into Kansas City or Saint Louis. 116 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: He got a nice little trek down seventy or upsetn 117 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: which way you're coming from. 118 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: But I'll go once a year, maybe, you know. 119 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: I like to get my kids back on the ground 120 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: and let them kind of see the stomping grounds. 121 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: And that's where I met their mom. So she's from 122 00:04:59,240 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: Kansas City. 123 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: My wife, Christine, So we tend to get back to 124 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: Missouri at least a few times a year. My best 125 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: friend Jeremy Macklin is coaching Kirkwood Pioneers, his high school 126 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis. They're in the playoffs, so we'll try 127 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: to link up a little bit. 128 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: How you know, you and Jeremy mack was like that. 129 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: And roommates and the same pick consecutive draft. I didn't 130 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: know that crazy. He was the four star recruit and 131 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: I was the two star recruit, you know, so I 132 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: always had him to look at and kind of strive 133 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: for something, you know. Gary Pinkle didn't come to my house. Yeah, 134 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: he went to a lot of the other guy's house, 135 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: but Mattie Refluse came to my house. And flux is 136 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: my guy who recruited me. 137 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: And yeah, and so I've been on campus like once, 138 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 4: so I haven't been there a lot. 139 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: So I would love to go back. 140 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: And you guys really do really really good things, and 141 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: the program's going tremendously. 142 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: It's an exciting town. 143 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: You know, when the kids are in school, that's when 144 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's sad as best. You know, we're 145 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: in summer, you know, it's kind of chill. You got 146 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: the football players, you got the other athletes in town, 147 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: but not so much going on. 148 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: But when it's. 149 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: Going down in Columbia and you have a good football team, 150 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of Atlanta. Like the stadium, it's 151 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: always going to be popping when the team is popping. 152 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: When the team isn't popping, it's not gonna you know, 153 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: it ain't gonna like that. So you kind of got 154 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: to earn it. And I respect that because you know, 155 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: people work hard with their money and what they do 156 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: with it is up to them, right absolutely. I went 157 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: there back in oh six. I was a two star 158 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: recruit man. Came in and just kind of had that 159 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: chip on my shoulder and wanted to, you know, leave 160 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: a legacy there. Got a chance to be around a 161 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: lot of great people. And you know, that's the reason 162 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: for success, I think, is being around great people in 163 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: the time and of things. And Gary Pinkel the way 164 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: he kind of called it to me, he was like, 165 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: you're a big twelve guy, and now you know, drink 166 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: will be saying you're yeah, sec. That's what he's telling 167 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: the kids coming in to Missoo now. But it's a 168 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: place that you know, I always try to get back to. 169 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: I want to go there more often than I actually 170 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: am able to get there because my roots are here now. 171 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: But it's a great town, got some great food. The 172 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: people are really nice. Everybody who I meet that are 173 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: you know around this area. You got people that have 174 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: allegiances with Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, Georgia. When they take that 175 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: trip to Como, they always say, man, that's a good place. Man. 176 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: The fans treat us with respect. For sure. 177 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: It's a place where you can go and feel like 178 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about no baby cussing you 179 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: out at ten am in the morning or eleven o'clock 180 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: kick off. 181 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: You want, you won't have to worry about that. 182 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: Now, some places in the SEC that brown liquor gets 183 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: going pretty early. So Columbia is a place where they 184 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: treat you with class and you really feel welcome there. 185 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure Alabama's one of those. 186 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: No, no, no, he's talking about Lut's not talking about were 187 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: not like that. 188 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: Completely that's LSU. But what I will say is that 189 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: I went on. 190 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: What I want to know is, so you had a 191 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: great career at Missouri, you get to the NFL, you 192 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: draft the first route. 193 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: What was your first welcome to the NFL moment? Oh? 194 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: Man, there was a guy by the name of Tony 195 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Gonzalez here, Oh yeah, and hated guard man. I bet 196 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: you did, because his leverage was just something that was special. So, 197 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, I thought the older guys, you know, they 198 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: would struggle with my my youth, you know, my athleticism, 199 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: with me being able to run, and you know, I 200 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: never really got in a hurry when I was guarding 201 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: these guys. But I noticed that at the top of 202 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: the route, Tony had the secret sauce. The secret sauce, right, 203 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: So it was kind of cool. A lot of people 204 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: get drafted and you go into your rookie minute camp. 205 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: It was the opposite. I got drafted and in that 206 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: Mother's Day weekend, I was out here with all the 207 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: vets because our camp was a veteran camp. Right away, 208 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: the whole team was boomed, so I'd have to make 209 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: no calls or nothing. So being out there with Eric 210 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Coleman and Thomas day Cool, William Moore, Curtis Lofton, John Abraham, 211 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of guys on our defense that he. 212 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: Knew what was going on. 213 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: Coy Wire was one of those guys, Mike Peterson, guys 214 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: that really helped raise me. And so it was a 215 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: different time in the league when I came in. I'm 216 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: sure you guys probably was in two of days with 217 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: past both practices. I was in two of days, but 218 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: you know we didn't have passed in that second practice. 219 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: But the older guys they did a good job of 220 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: just bringing me along and not really having resentment towards 221 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: me from me being the first round pick, who essentially 222 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: is you know, coming here to play and maybe cut 223 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: into your time. So I got a shout out Mike Peterson. 224 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: He was the one that he called me the baby lion. 225 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: He gave me a chance to really, you know, watch 226 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: what a professional is and to kind of see, you know, 227 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: how it should be done in that leadership role from 228 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, from being a linebacker. The team is always 229 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: looking at you, right, and so my I think it 230 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: was my third year, I was the will linebacker, but 231 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: here I am with the headset. So I think that's 232 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: a testament to the guys that I was around. 233 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: But it was. 234 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: Definitely Tony routing everybody up. He was routing everybody. I 235 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: don't care who you were, you get to the top 236 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: of the route. He doing some little, some little stuff 237 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: to just get him open. And there was a guy 238 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: by the name Coach Selfo, who was his tight end coach. 239 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: He's from He's from Louisiana. I think, not too far 240 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: from New Orleans actually, he I mean just bonafide that. 241 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: You know. You come in as a young linebacker, you 242 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: ready to go. I see Tony. I'm like, okay, I 243 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: gotta go out here. I gotta get it. I can 244 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: make my mark. I can show everybody. You know what 245 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: I can do. Because when I was drafted, I was 246 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: drafted to cover Reggie Bush and so that was what 247 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: they told me. 248 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: Right then, Bone, this is what you're gonna do. 249 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna day one, you're gonna be the dim linebacker. 250 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: You might not play in the run game. That's gonna 251 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: be something you're gonna have to earn, but you're gonna 252 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: get a chance. That's to cover and show the skills 253 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: I exemplified playing in the Big twelve because We threw 254 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: the ball a lot, a lot of great tight ends 255 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: in that conference that I and backs that I played 256 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: against as well. So when I got here, you know, 257 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna get Tony. So I went 258 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: out there. He put it on the clinic on all 259 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: the linebackers. Tom Brady came in town for training camp. 260 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: He brought Gronk, he brought and Hernandez. They put on 261 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: the clinic as well. So Hernandez saw, I mean, bro, 262 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: whatever they want to say, one of the best football 263 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: players I've ever seen. We signed with the same agent 264 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: and Zach Robinson, the coordinator for the Foulers right now. 265 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: We all lived in the same apartment complex, and the 266 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: way that we would work and compete against each other. 267 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: The only person to tell me he was going to 268 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: hit me with a move and then actually hit me 269 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: with the move. You know what I mean, man. He 270 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: told me this in January, and we played in the 271 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: fall and. 272 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: He hit me with the same move. 273 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: And I just got a chance to see the way 274 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: that the veterans worked, you know, when I got here, 275 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: and so Foe he was saying, he says, see that's 276 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: bum don't touch eighty eight. You see that my kids 277 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: going to college. He's in the weight room, just Tony 278 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: out there do his work. Man. 279 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 2: It's just excited. We all we all had a good 280 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: time here. 281 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: But that welcome to the League moment was definitely Tony Gonzalez. 282 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: And it was kind of how everybody was talking about 283 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: Rookie night coming up, Rookie dinner, Rookie dinner. The guys 284 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: kept talking about it, you know, but I didn't get 285 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: too you know, up or two down about it. I 286 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: just kind of, I know I'm gonna have to, you know, 287 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: take care of this night. But they took it a 288 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: little easy on me. So, Yeah, I got. 289 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: Rookie bringing the podcast. 290 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: What you need me to do, I'm run down to 291 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: your car at the hotel. You need me to whatever. 292 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: I just did my part. 293 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: I like that. I like that. 294 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 4: That's universal too, Peanut that that Popeye is chicken, bro. 295 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: Everyone did. 296 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you had to before the games before you get 297 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: on that play grease sweating all say no excuses. 298 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: We got uber eats and changing terminals and stuff at 299 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: the at the airport. You call in the airport, y'all 300 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: got it because we actually had Pop's in the airport. 301 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: That's love here, right, so all he had do is 302 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of just make sure that we're in the right place, right, 303 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: and they would make it happen for us. 304 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's lucky. 305 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: That's so much love. 306 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: So Rome played for the Saints. 307 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: Then you went to Carolina for two years, and then 308 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 3: you went back to the Saints. Something similar happened with you. 309 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: You went to Atlanta for a few years, and you 310 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: go to Arizona. What made you want to go back 311 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,239 Speaker 3: to the Falcons. 312 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: Well, I think it. 313 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: Was a place I'm familiar with, a place that showed 314 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: me a lot of love. And once the business side 315 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: of things started to happen, that's where the discrepancy started 316 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: to come. And that's what ended up, you know, sending 317 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: me out to Arizona. And so it was it was 318 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: a few teams that called Flush was actually in he 319 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: was down in Dallas, Okay. He was a linebackers coach there. 320 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: So he's called, man, let's do it like we did 321 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: it at Missoo. Because when I was at Missou we 322 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: balled out here. We won like almost forty games. I 323 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: mean it was we're gonna roll out the ball and 324 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: we're gonna score some points and we're gonna get a 325 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities on defense to make some plays. And 326 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: I happened to be one of those guys, playing the 327 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: will linebacker in a four to three system where the 328 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: scheme was run through track and hammer, and I was 329 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: a guy that was normally always tracking the ball inside out. 330 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: That afforded me to make a lot of plays. And so, 331 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, I talked to Flus, He's like, spoom, come down. 332 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, I grew up a Cowboys fan, so you know, 333 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: my parents threw some nice, you know, nineteen nineties parties 334 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys was doing their things. None of the 335 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys stuff was involved, just just King of Beers, you know, 336 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: Budweiser and a little brown maybe. But the family had 337 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: a good time celebrating during those times. And so I 338 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: kind of had a nostalgic connection with that. And it's 339 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: coach coach Flux who coached me at Missou. 340 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It was like, ah, that 341 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: was tough. 342 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: And then Steve Kahan was the guy who I was 343 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: close with during the process who was the GM for 344 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and he kind of always was a good 345 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: friend of mine, and so we spoke a lot and 346 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: he was like, bring me a nose tack, Bring me 347 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: a nose tack, and I'm like, I got one. So 348 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: one of my best friends, Corey jelly Bean Peters, played 349 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: for a long time here in Atlanta, played his first 350 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: I think five seasons. We went out to Arizona together, 351 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: ended up staying out there playing six or seven more years, 352 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: and then going to Jacksonville and now I think he's 353 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: working with them. But so and then at the actual 354 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: Saints called me too man soon. Sean Payton was a 355 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: guy who I got a chance to speak with for 356 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: a while and really kind of understand his philosophy. And 357 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: the Saints were going through a lot of things defensively 358 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: at that time to where he was calling Falcon players 359 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: to come to come down there, you know, so I 360 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: had a chance to speak with him. He had ties 361 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: to Dallas as well, kind of you know, had a 362 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: lot of respect for him in the way he did 363 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: his thing down in New Orleans, and you know, it 364 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: came down to those three teams and then staying in Atlanta. 365 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: So I knew I would I would have to do 366 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: a one year deal because I ruptured my achilles the 367 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: off season before my last year on my rookie contract, 368 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: and so I didn't get a chance to be a 369 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: part of you know, the fourteen team where I think 370 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: you was in in Carolina, y'all came up. I think 371 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: you guys might have been the last the last strawf 372 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: of Mike Smith. It was the last game I've never seen. 373 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: I've never seen this ever, Mike Smith. You know, I 374 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: love Mike. He drafted me, changed my life. Him and 375 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Thomas the Metro, great guys. I love their scheme. You know, 376 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: I had a good time in their scheme, some fun playet. 377 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: But man, he was walking on fans and needles around here. Man, 378 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: he's coming out of his office like he can't cut 379 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: the music down because I'm not playing. But I'm the 380 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: ultimate hype man to make sure these guys ready to go. 381 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: So I'm playing the tunes. 382 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: You know. 383 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: We we bumping, We got it rocking, and we're trying 384 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, the division was kind 385 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: of in the state that is in now. 386 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: It was all over place like the Saints. 387 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 4: Then they like lost the last six games of the year, 388 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: and then Atlanta was ahead of us. 389 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: We were like. 390 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: And it was like next year we looked up Saints 391 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: lost again and it was down between the Falcons and US. 392 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: So we still had a chance to make the playoffs. 393 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: And here goes a news report the Falcons have hired 394 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: some outside firm to help them find their new coach. 395 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: And that's why I could see why wasn't it wasn't 396 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: even fire. We can still make the playoffs, So I 397 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: see why. He was kind of, you know, smitty, we 398 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: call them the silver Fox. He kind of you know, 399 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: I got some, but he was. He was a little, 400 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, kind of on edge man, and so we 401 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: ended up getting our butt kicked, our butts kicked in 402 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: that game. 403 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: It was a rough day, man. 404 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: And so Dan Quinn comes in, he brings in his regime, 405 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: right and they're talking about the Cover three that Seattle 406 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: was running, which is the Cover three. 407 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: I do not like, but I get it. And Quinn, 408 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: you know, he was solid dude. Man. 409 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: We talked beforehand. My wife at the time, she's just 410 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: my lady. We're pregnant, you know, we're kind of trying 411 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: to figure out life and what we're gonna do. And 412 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: of course my daughter's on the way, and right as 413 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: free agency starts, you know, we're in the hospital, and 414 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: so we leave Atlanta to go to Arizona with a 415 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: two week old baby. Man, So, I mean, it's a 416 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: lot of things going on in my life at the time. 417 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: I was twenty seven, I want to say. And Arizona 418 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: they gave me The Falcons said they paid me good 419 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: enough for me to just say, hey, I want to 420 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: be here at all cops, right, So that's kind of 421 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: the contract they offered me. 422 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: And I'm like, na, we're not gonna rock like that. 423 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: So dan Quinn was like, spowned, I respect it, I understand, 424 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. The Saints gave me a 425 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: nice little offer and then Arizona matched it, and then 426 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: I could take my best friend with me to go 427 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: play nose tackle and he get his deal, and everything 428 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: kind of just made since their team was a good team. 429 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: Collais Campbell a beast of a human, a great human. 430 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: He's still a player, got still getting sacks. It was 431 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: a great place for me to go and just kind 432 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 1: of just you know, learn to be an adult. You know, 433 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: Atlanta is a little it's a little wild out here 434 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. You get out here, you twenty two years old, 435 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: it's a lot of things that can distract you, but 436 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: ultimately the first three years we win in football games. 437 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: We won thirty six games in the regular season my 438 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: first two years. I'm thinking that's just what you do, right, 439 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: And so that that fourth year, I was a little 440 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: banged up, miss some games. That was the first year 441 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: you could be on IR and be designated to return. 442 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: So I was one of the players that did that, 443 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: and it just didn't bowl well for me. And then 444 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: I'm really working hard that off season looking forward to 445 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: that that last year on my contract, and then bone 446 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: the Achilles went so Falcons, you know, they treated me 447 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: the business side of things, pushed me to Arizona. Yeah, 448 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: went out to a z and Ba. I don't know 449 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: if you guys know Ba, but he's a wild boy. 450 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: He's a wild boy, so Bruce, he gonna he he 451 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: likened me to Dan. He's a spoon trying to hit 452 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: us with the dance. But he don't want to practice. 453 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, Bro, I ain't played since twenty twelve in 454 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: the way I want to play. I haven't played since 455 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen where I started a game. Here it is 456 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. I don't want to miss practice. I want 457 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: to go out and do all I can. So I 458 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: can you know, prove to myself that I can still 459 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: do this. Also put myself in a position to where financially, 460 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: I'll have an opportunity to, you know, drop some roots 461 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: in Arizona if I like to, or go see what 462 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: other team I might you know, like, and so pull 463 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: my hamsteing in training camp, miss some time. God by 464 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: the name of Kevin Minter, God by the name of 465 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: day On Buchanan. Both of these guys are think first 466 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: and second round picks by Steve Kahan. They had a 467 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: chance to really, you know, show what they could do. 468 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: They brought Dayon in the box and he was able 469 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: to play linebacker, and so they play well. And I 470 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: was like, okay, they want to pay me almost five 471 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: million dollars for you know, to cover the running back 472 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: and the tight end. I'll just get healthy, you know. 473 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: So got a chance to get healthy, contributed as much 474 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: as I could. We made the championship game, and then 475 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: we went to Carolina. We threw six picks in that game. 476 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: You're not gonna win that game on the road. And 477 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: I think that was a year you were you got 478 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: to call yeah, We're yeah. 479 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 480 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: So you guys that joined up, y'all teamed up and 481 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: I made the super Bowl and then Atlanta. You know, 482 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: they were in a position where the guys they wanted, 483 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: you know, to play the linebacker in fifteen, it was 484 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: an eight and eight season, so they wanted to get better, 485 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: but ultimately they wanted to bring me back to kind 486 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: of be you know, the vet, the face, the smile, 487 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: get everybody going. 488 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 2: But I'm coming back. I'm like, man, I'm ready to go. 489 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to eat. I hit the ground running. 490 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 1: They drafted Devondre Campbell, Deon Jones, some guys who can 491 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: really play some ball. In Deon, I'm like, man, def 492 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Andre was actually all pro to. So both of those 493 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: guys really, you know, we raised Philip Wheeler was here. 494 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Warlow, I'm sorry, remember Pat, Paul. I'm sorry, Paul. 495 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: Don't get me for that peed up. He did a 496 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: good job of filling in and making plays. I never 497 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: seen a guy get back to back games with you know, 498 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: nineteen tackles in the NFL, and he's a that's did 499 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: that and knock them down against Carolina too, I think 500 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: one year. But came back here and we had the 501 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. So it was a heck of a 502 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: year man, I hit the ground running. I didn't start 503 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: the first game. But one thing about dan Quinn, they 504 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: they kind of they'll they'll do some things in practice 505 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: to really show who's who's getting after it, right, So 506 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: they're telling me they don't want me to do the 507 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: same things I did here in Atlanta. We kind of 508 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: bringing you in a different role. I shook his hand, 509 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: I said, thanks. I'm gonna go out every day and 510 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: just try to be me. Make it hard on you guys. 511 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: That's my job, right. So every so often my picture 512 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: would go up in the in the practice in the 513 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: film room for being, you know, the most productive player 514 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: at practice. You get to sign your name. Boom, picture 515 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 1: go up, Picture go up. Might be a couple of pictures. Spoons, Spoon, Campbell, Spoons, Spoon, Jones, Spoon, Renolds, 516 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Leroy Reynolds, another special team Demon, really good linebacker two 517 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: who played on that team, Philip Willi pop up their warlow. 518 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: And so everybody got an opportunity to play, you know, 519 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: because we were a young team. But Campbell ended up 520 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: spraining his ankle pretty good and I got a chance 521 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: to start. So I hadn't started for the Falcons since 522 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, and then I started the next three games, 523 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: and in the first four games, I think we were 524 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: three on one, and in the games I started, we 525 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: won all those games. So here I am twenty eight, 526 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: feeling good back, you know, great to be back in 527 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: the city, playing some really good ball. 528 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: And then the other Achilles went. 529 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: So then I just kind of went into a role 530 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: where I was helping those guys be you know, kind 531 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: of trying to do what Mike Peterson and. 532 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: Corey Wire and I really enjoyed that. 533 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: And I think Andy Reid came in here and whooped 534 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: up on us, and then all of a sudden, that 535 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: team just said, boom, we figured it out. And those 536 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: young guys, man, they beat Green Bay late in the game. 537 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: Mohamed Sanu, my business partner and former teammate, my brother, 538 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: he happened to win that game against Aaron Rodgers with 539 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: the last touchdown, and man, we had a heck of 540 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: the year. 541 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: And then Tom Brady ruined it, you know, and. 542 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: Then and then next year, I'm Brady. 543 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Next year, you know, I'm rehabbing, and you know, I 544 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: didn't get an opportunity to get you know, off the 545 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: ground for real. But that ended up being my last 546 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: year twenty seventeen, and so the last time my dress 547 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: was against the later in the season that year. Man 548 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: and been in Atlanta every since, man, raising my kids 549 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: and you know, just trying to figure things out, pulling 550 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: out my golf swing here and there, and I. 551 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: Just get it. Just enjoying life. We'll be back in 552 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 2: a minute. 553 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: Let's talk about your your your second act, what you're 554 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: doing now. And you mentioned earlier Mohammed Sanu, your business partner, yep. 555 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: I want you to tell us how you even got 556 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: into that, the Legacy Sports Complex. How did you even 557 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: get into this? 558 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: Well, I've always been the guy who kind of get 559 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: the other guys going, kind of get them in the 560 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: right place, you know. I always I always took that 561 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: to be something I really wanted to do, like not 562 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: just know what I'm doing, but why I'm doing it, 563 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: and then trying to share the knowledge with the other 564 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: guys as well. And so that comes from my mom. 565 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: She was a teacher in Jasper for like thirty thirty 566 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: two years, you know, so she kind of instilled that 567 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: in me. And so my son and Mohammed's son are 568 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: about thirteen months apart, maybe twelve, about a year apart. 569 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: So these guys hang out a lot, right because you know, 570 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: me and Moe become teammates, obviously, the ladies come become friends, 571 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: and then we're having kids, we're growing and so MJ. 572 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: That's Mold's son, he's nine, and then my son, baby Sean, 573 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: he's eight. They ended up just just really locking in. 574 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: And so they live in Gwinnett. I'm in the cab, 575 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: so every so often my son would be out staying 576 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: at their place, and most started taking MJ to a 577 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: gym not too far from their house, and he's just 578 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: kind of sitting back watching what's going on at the gym. 579 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: And first of all, you see a sense of community 580 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: and the kids in Gwinnett. 581 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a different place, man. 582 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: It reminds me of how I grew up in Texas, 583 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: because like when you rolled out of football, then everybody's 584 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, wide eyed, trying to figure out, you know, 585 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: what they need to do in order to be out 586 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: there so they don't lose like their brothers did. 587 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: When they were young. 588 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: Right, Like that's I remember being in the car telling 589 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: my mom, we ain't gonna lose when it's my turnout, 590 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Like and we didn't win state either, but anyway, it's 591 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: just that DNA, that DNA, like you're gonna love ball, 592 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna hit, you're gonna run, you're gonna talk some 593 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: smack and have a good time. 594 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: And so I saw that in the gym, yeah, with 595 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: the kids. 596 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Moe was telling me about it and then he ended 597 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: up going on board with them, and so once he 598 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: got on board, he ended up bringing me to the gym. 599 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: And I'm watching the kids work out and seeing kind 600 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: of how it's going in our partner, Dustin Chavannik, and 601 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: also Christian Blake, who's another wide receiver played with the 602 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: Falcons out of n IU. He's another partner in the 603 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: gym too, so he's in his second act as well. 604 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: And so I just got a chance to be around 605 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: these people and see the community and what it's doing 606 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: for the youth there. And you got all kinds of 607 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: sports in there. It's not just a football gym. It's 608 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: a baseball gym, it's a mma gym, it's a wrestling gym, 609 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: it's a you know, the moms are in there the 610 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: boot camp. I see the Falcons wives, the coaches wives 611 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: are in there doing boot camps. In the morning. And 612 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's just trying to get better and better themselves. 613 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: And that makes me feel good to see people, you know, 614 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: trying to be better. And so I watched it for 615 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: a while and then trying to figure out ways that 616 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: it could make sense for me, and so I ended 617 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: up coming on board. And now here we are on 618 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: third location, looking at our fourth location here in this 619 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: metro area. 620 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 4: Man, so you guys are almost expanding like franchises, Yes, 621 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 4: because like explain this whole business model, because you see 622 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: it at one place and you said, it's the community 623 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 4: there that you know, that's what attracted you to. It 624 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 4: was the space and the people inside of Yes, So 625 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 4: you take that put it in another building somewhere else. 626 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 4: You don't have the same people, yeah, but you do 627 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 4: have the same people. But you do you do because 628 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 4: we're running all over Georgia. 629 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm from Hoshton where the new gym is, to Lawrenceville, 630 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: to Swanee and even checking out the new spot and 631 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: ken that we're looking at, you know, so it's a 632 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: lot of hey, bro, what you got today? Yeah, And 633 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: so everybody's kind of we all got the secret sauce 634 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: because we've done it right. 635 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 4: And it's the emotion too, that's what you're saying. Like, dude, 636 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 4: I've been a hype man since right, because I've been 637 00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 4: a hype right. 638 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: So we're bringing we're bringing other people on and just 639 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: trying to instill our values in them. If that's just 640 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: the way we live our lives and the way we 641 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: are on the turf with the kids, and just how 642 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: we respect people. And I think that's something that's drawn 643 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: a lot of people to come to the facility. And 644 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: I think Moe was late today because he's meeting with 645 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: North Side Hospital and so I wasn't able to get 646 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: out there this morning. 647 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: But they're looking to come in, come in on board, 648 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: and you. 649 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: Know, facilitate you know, the fees so other kids can 650 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: even come into this gym. 651 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, specifically, I want to talk about the business side. 652 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: You guys just focused on the youth, like young kids. No, No, 653 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 3: you don't, not at all, not at all. So the 654 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: youth is kind of where my heart is. 655 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: But I think some of my business partners they're kind 656 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: of looking at it to be one of those places 657 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: where guys can have their combine training there, where they 658 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: can actually rent out the space. I mean, because the 659 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: youth don't need the seven like sauna. The youth is 660 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: not doing cryo therapy, the youth is not using the 661 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: hot Cat. But all these gems have all of these 662 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: amenities there, and so we would definitely like to grow 663 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: it to the fact to where, like I said, like 664 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: an act, like an agency like athletes. First, my agency 665 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: could have their guys come in Boom and they know 666 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: if they're in Atlanta, they can they can. 667 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: Do that thing. 668 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: It's competing, right, It's competing with D One, it's competing 669 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: with Exos, And actually an NFL actually gives us benefits 670 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: through EXOS. But I don't even go to EXOS because 671 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: we have Barbara Orthopedic and their therapy people right in 672 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: our space. So I can go there and get PRP 673 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: in my own gym and be in my the seven 674 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: Light signer, the cryo therapy, get all that stuff. So 675 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: it kind of keeps my body young too, because I've 676 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: been thinking about doing some more things with my body 677 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: as well. I just got off the phone with my 678 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: buddy Russell Okung and he just he just partnered with Abby. Yeah, 679 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: pay me in bitcoin, and so he's gonna pay me 680 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: in bitcoin and go out to the Abby Dobby and 681 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: run around in the seven H seven flag game and 682 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: maybe grow the game a little bit more there. 683 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: So it's exciting. 684 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: It's exciting to give back also for my buddies to 685 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: be in town that are still playing and I can 686 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: send there to my place, you know, and the first 687 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: time I just say, man, y'all go sign their waver. 688 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: Now, got some expensive legs, got some expensive needs. 689 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: Indeed, what is the vision for you guys like you 690 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 4: had like, Okay, what is the end zone? 691 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: What is the touchdown? What does the super Bowl like? 692 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: What does that look like? 693 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: I can't say that for everybody, but I can say 694 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: that for me. I think the the end zone for 695 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: me is to just know that you know, the name 696 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: is called legacy. That's one thing that really stood out 697 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: for me. I want my kids to be in an 698 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: environment where they have all the opportunities to do everything 699 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: they want to do athletically, and I'm going to facilitate 700 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: everything they're going to do educationally and then teach them 701 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: how to be humans. So that's that's all I want, 702 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: good humans. That's all I want to do. I think 703 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if I take care 704 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: of that part, just doing my part, then everything else 705 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be somebody cut a check at the 706 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: end of the day, and I don't even care about that. 707 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: That'd be great because you know what you're able to 708 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: do with that. But at the same time, ultimately I 709 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: want to do something good while I'm here. 710 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: That's it. That's my that's my vision. Yeah, now are you? 711 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: Are you training the kids sometimes? 712 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes like today, you know, I'm not I'm not going 713 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: to be on the turf today because my son, he 714 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: is a wild boy. 715 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: He's eight years old. 716 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: He's in UFA Metro Soccer, he's in fall baseball, he's 717 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: in spring baseball, he's in basketball, he's in football. We 718 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: have a seven on seventeen through Legacy as well, and 719 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: we were actually ranked in Pylon. I don't know if 720 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: you know. PILAND is kind of like the biggest governing body. 721 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: They put on the biggest you know, kind of seven 722 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: on seven camps. That's where cam was out there, you know, 723 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: whooping them up and nobody tries pulling. 724 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 4: Out, but they was trying camp out there. 725 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: I guess when you get. 726 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Older, they always try and camp, you know, you know 727 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: how it is, It's that jealousy man, and Cam is flamboyant, 728 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: it is, and so you know he has an a 729 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: way too big to do. 730 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: What do y'all doing? What do you think? What do 731 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: you think is bigger than you think? Yeah? So were you? 732 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: I agree? I agree? Yeah, you ain't no regular cornerback. 733 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: You know. It's some big guys. 734 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: That's one thing that kind of shocked me when I 735 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: got to the pros to see how big guys are 736 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: that are athletic and can move, because I always always 737 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: knew how I was different. 738 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,479 Speaker 2: Like I'm like, yeah, I can run. 739 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: I could be two fifty in still run for six 740 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, but I'm like, man, seeing like cornerback six 741 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: foot three six two ten, two fifteen and moving and 742 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, being functional in. 743 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: Space and things like that, that was different from me. 744 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: And then to see the small guys do their thing 745 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: as well, like the water bugs. 746 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: Still find a way. Those ones, I hate it. Yeah, 747 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 2: those are the worst ones. Like FROs he was on 748 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: your team. 749 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, that's why I mean I would leave the 750 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: game feeling like I give up forty yards and I 751 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: feel like I got work, And I'm like, bro, that's 752 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: good against him, you know, like he was serious, bro, 753 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: But I mean the amount of exertion that you would 754 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: have playing against some of these guys in the league. 755 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: Your energy, Bro, you just be pooped after the game. Bro. Yeah, crazy. 756 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: I want to know this because this is probably that'll 757 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: be a one hundred percent honest I don't I didn't 758 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: love a lot of things about Atlanta or you guys 759 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: as teams. 760 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: But y'all was beefing. Bro. You why was y'all beefing 761 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: so much? 762 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: Like remember jay Z saying, like people larguet over the 763 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: over the neighborhood. 764 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: They know, you know what I'm saying. I like, b 765 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: it was me and Roddy was so bad at times. 766 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 4: It was so bad, and it just like infused everybody 767 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 4: on offense just got They were just hated me and 768 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 4: I hated them. It was bad. It was mutual, Yeah, 769 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 4: I know, it was very mutual. My favorite thing though, 770 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 4: was you and your celebration the spoon. Yeah, I should 771 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 4: have pattened that thing. You should have patten that. That 772 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 4: was like and I didn't understand it the first three 773 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: or four times I saw you do it. 774 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 2: And then when. 775 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: Curtis Lofton came to us and everything, he really like 776 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 4: broke it down. 777 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: I was like, can you gotta explained? They explained it's 778 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go ahead and talk about it. 779 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: So it kind of started back at Missou okay, But 780 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: like I told you, Gary Pinkle kind of comes from 781 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: Don James, the Nick Saban Tree, like they don't let 782 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: you do nothing fun. 783 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: Socks black and my socks white. 784 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: Somebody in trouble, you're gonna get everybody gonna look alike, 785 00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna say the right thing. 786 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: You're gonna be on you know. 787 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: So at practice I would kind of first it started 788 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: with me like this, Hey, I'm eating out here, you know, 789 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: And then I was. 790 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: Like, man, I'm really eating. So I did it, and 791 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: then he like showed us on film. Now we're not 792 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: gonna do that. 793 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: That's how Coach Pinker's like, we're not gonna have any 794 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: of his knee stuff. I remember a guy by the 795 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: name of Alden Smith was counting his sacks one game 796 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: and great, great player. 797 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: He was counting the sacks and we didn't spill no 798 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: way about it. Get some more count the more. 799 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: But he had to apologize to the team for counting 800 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: his sacks in the game and he had three sacks. 801 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he ultimately won the game for us, but 802 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: who cares, bro It's gonna be about doing it the 803 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: right way, and it's gonna be about the name on 804 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: the front more than it was about the name on 805 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: the back. 806 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,719 Speaker 2: And so Coach Pinkle wouldn't let me do it at Missou. 807 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: So I never did it in. 808 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: Any of the games. I never did it in practice 809 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: after the one time he told me not to do it. 810 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: And so when I got here, my first sack was 811 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. We played the second game, I sacked 812 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: Derek Anderson. I started eating right, Kurt slapped me on 813 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: the head, and it just kind of evolved like throughout 814 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: the year. I remember there was a guy by the 815 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: name a Little Bee who was like a rapper, you 816 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And he thinks to call him 817 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: the base guy. 818 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: His dance was eating or he'd be cooking or something, 819 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: but always he do that. 820 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: So it kind of evolved to where I might have 821 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: pulled something out, you know, and ate a little bit, 822 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more deliberate with my choice of food. 823 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: Right. 824 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: It's so like when you when you kiss the rookie 825 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: years just so, but when you unsheathe it. It becomes 826 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: a weapon, you know, you gotta do every time I 827 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,479 Speaker 1: do it, and when you pull it out and then 828 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: you let him know you like this, this what's going 829 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: down there. So I got a chance to pull that 830 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: thing out a little bit down there in New Orleans. 831 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes and sometimes you make a play that doesn't need that, 832 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, you don't need that, Like it has to 833 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: be like okay, you letting him know, like okay, I'm 834 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: really I'm I'm on you right now. 835 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 4: Even my funnest one, the funnest ones I enjoyed you 836 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 4: do was even when you wouldn't eat, you just show 837 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 4: us this. 838 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 2: I might just put it. I might put it back 839 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: and then cool. 840 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool because like you make a play and 841 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: you look in the stands are you look at the 842 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: sideline for your teammates. 843 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 2: So it became something that was fun. 844 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: Man, there was actually a spoon man in Atlanta bro 845 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: He had spoons all over his jacket is his blazer, 846 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: and they would come with the big foil spoons in 847 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: the prime time games. And man, one time I ran 848 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: through on Peyton Manning and they got knocked the ball 849 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: down or something, and I pulled out both of them 850 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: and yeah, we got to eat double against this guy 851 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: right here right. He was disgusted man, and we won 852 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: the game of Monday Night. It was pretty cool. And 853 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: then guy by the name of Zeke he kind of 854 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: took it and further. And then there was another guy 855 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 1: by the name he was a safety. I'm a swag. 856 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: What's his name though, I'm drawing a blank right now. 857 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: Gratis are some safety smaller swaringer DJ. Yeah, he was 858 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: a part of that. He was a part of the 859 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: Arizona team too. Had so much town in Arizona. It 860 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: was crazy as no way we should lose to y'all 861 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. I mean to go to the 862 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That team was so much more talent than 863 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: your team. But you guys, you guys got it. But 864 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: thank you, Sweat and he pulled out too. I've never 865 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: seen nobody love football like him though. He walk around 866 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: football like it looked like how you're learning, Yeah, what's 867 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: the other not how you're learning the program? Darnell Jefferson 868 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: walking around with the ball. That was DJ Swaaron. Just 869 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: once I met him, I was like, all right, but 870 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: you can eat, bro, It's cool you like to eat. 871 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. Well, I got a 872 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: question for you. 873 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 4: And we try and ask this the majority of our 874 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 4: guess and it usually brings out a little bit of 875 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 4: a mindset. And all right, Mount Rushmore, get four people, 876 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 4: four people of the biggest influence to make you, Seawan 877 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 4: Wetherspoon to who you are and get you to where 878 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 4: you are right now? 879 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: Who those four people be, Man, it gotta be my 880 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 2: mom and put my mom there. 881 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my dad there because you know, I 882 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: saw my dad go to work his whole life. 883 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: So my mom go to work her whole life. 884 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: And they instilled in me to be somebody to get 885 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: up off your butt and go do something and also 886 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: be a respectful person. So I gotta just the way 887 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: I think about, you know, dealing with people, it comes 888 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: from them. And then my dad, he showed me the ball, 889 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: you know, So I gotta I gotta put them up 890 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: there now. If anything else, it's it's gonna be. This's 891 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a family thing for me. Bro I'm not looking. 892 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: And that's why I think, you know, the dynamic, the 893 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: family dynamic is kind of a little weird now, But 894 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm that kid that's the baby of four and so 895 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my big bro. My big bro. He 896 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 1: the first one to go make sure my parents didn't 897 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: have to pay for school. He went to Stephen F. 898 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: Boston University. Started started as a truck. He's heat Nachadoches, 899 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: which is the brother of nackat Is, those two Indian chiefs. 900 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: But he spurned Northwestern State to go to Stephen F. Austin. 901 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: And Jeremy Trotter is his big bro. And so trot 902 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: was like two sixty like just sitting in the middle 903 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: back in the nineties, just coming through just like he 904 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: did in the league, just coming through and yeah, man, 905 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: and he was that acts on his was pretty his 906 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: was pretty dope too. But big bro, I got a 907 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: shout out, big bro Te that's my oldest brother play 908 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: linebacker as well. And then after that, mmm, that the 909 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: fourth one, Who's I looking at? Man? Who's I looking at? 910 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: It would have to be when it comes to football, 911 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: it was Barry Sanders, Barry Man. So it's Barry Sanders. 912 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: That's what made me like just really love the game. 913 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: My big brother who exemplified, like this, how you do it? Yeah, 914 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: and then my dad and my mom for creating me 915 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: and treating you know, teaching me how to be an adult, 916 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: how to be a human, a good human. Now that 917 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 1: I'm an adult. It's really showing off. But yeah, that's 918 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: my that's my Mount Rushmore. I don't look outside to 919 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: the other things. 920 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 2: Man. 921 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: I respect the outside, but I take what I need 922 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: to take, you know, and not use my discernment. 923 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, your Mount Rushmore and you can put whoever you 924 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 3: are man's that's a beautiful mount Mount Rushmore. 925 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: That's a good one. I've heard great things about you, bro, 926 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: and you didn't let me down today. Appreciate it. Man. 927 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: I'm glad you guys, you know, had me in here. 928 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 2: You guys doing a great job with it. 929 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: I got a shout out my pot while I'm here too, 930 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: True the True Signs Podcast with myself, Jeremy Macklin my 931 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: college you know, buddy. So it's me Jay mack and 932 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: then my buddy Kevin Rutland. So Kevin played corner for 933 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: the Jags. He came in in the lockout year and 934 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: Kevin's he's kind of he's a Missouri legend to me. Yeah, 935 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: but like Max the Missou legend on offense, I'm one 936 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: of the Missou legends on defense and so Kevin's in 937 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: the middle. He's kind of like doing what you guys doing, 938 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: kind of directing it, and me and Mack kind of 939 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 1: just talking. You know, we're talking ball talking about Missou 940 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: because right now it's going down. 941 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: So let him do the heavy lifting. Dog you come 942 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 2: in there and put the swag on exactly. 943 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: Aaron Murray is actually the guy who partnered with us 944 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: at TPL, which is called The Players Lounge. Chase Daniel 945 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: kind of hooked us up with Aaron, and so Aaron's 946 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: producing our show and it's called The True Sons Podcast. 947 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 2: You guys can check it out on all the platforms. 948 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 2: Awesome there it is, y'all. Go check that out, figure 949 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: it out. You're gonna get us out of you want 950 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: me to do it? Think you do it? 951 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 4: Man, You can flow to you right now. You know 952 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 4: I am filling that flow. It's because Atlanta falcons around us. 953 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 4: Man naturally perk up and defenders. Anyways, man, thank you 954 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 4: for our viewers and listeners out there. Wherever you pick 955 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 4: up your podcast, make sure you give us a five 956 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 4: star rating, a review, give us a follow, could subscribe, uh, 957 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 4: and you comment, comment and what we're gonna do? Tell 958 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 4: where we're going, Peanut, check us out. 959 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 3: On our NFL YouTube channel. 960 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah that thing, and uh you. 961 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 4: Know, make sure you give us five star rating Apple 962 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 4: Podcasts a radio app Thank you as always appreciated, Man Spoon. 963 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 2: You were blessing brother. Thank you. 964 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: Thank you man dude, you did not disappointment, not at 965 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 4: all much. Appreciate that. 966 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 3: Appreciate Peanut, Roman Spoon. This is the NFL Second Player's podcast, 967 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 3: Lea Thank y'all 968 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 2: By VAT by one Bump by Bup