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I'm 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: John Schmelk and joining us right now for a game 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: preview of the Giants and Eagles, which of course takes 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: place on Fox on Saturday night at eight fifteen, is 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: Darryl Moose Johnston former Dallas Cowboy, very familiar with both 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: the Giants and the Eagles. Moose should be a heck 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: of a game coming on Monday night and you have 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: the call on Fox. Yeah, we're we're really excited about 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: this one. Um. Yeah, I agreed that. I think it's 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a heck of the game. Um, you know, 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. I think we'll get a really 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: really good feel right as that game starts of what 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: it's going to be like. Uh, you know, a couple 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: of questions, you know, probably right at the forefront of 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: everybody's mine. Um, Number one, how is Jalen Hurts. We've 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: heard he's been totally cleared. Uh, you know, head coach 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni says, no limitations, but you've got that in 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: the back of your head. So we'll get an idea 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: how Jalen feels, uh, you know as that game starts. 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: And then for me, the big one is, boy, can 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: the Giants follow up just an outstanding performance against Minnesota 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: from last week's playoff game and carry that over into 28 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: into the divisional round? Um had him a couple of 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: times this year, and I've never seen the Giants play 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: as well as they did against Minnesota. Yeah, and I 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: want to kind of deconstruct everything you touched on there. 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Let's star with Hurts first, moose the shoulder. Is this 33 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: more an issue with him being able to run the 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: ball like he wants to? And I really think that's 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: a lynch ban of what the Eagles do. Do you 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: think it's going to affect his ability to throw down 37 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: the field? Is it both? Is it one or the other? 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: What are you specifically going to be watching what Hurts 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: early in the game that will give you a clue 40 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: as to whether or not he's really m V p level, 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: Jalen hurts. We did the game where he actually sustained 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: the injury, and and right after he did it, he 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: came out and he threw two passes back to back 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: and didn't seem to show, you know, any any type 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: of limitation there. So I think it was going to 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: be kind of a pain management thing, you know, through 47 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: the whole process. Um. But he's done such a good job, 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: you know, this season throwing from the pocket. Um. You know, 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: I think that that's become a really important part of 50 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: his game. But but what really sets him apart from 51 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: everything is his running ability. And I think that that 52 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: was where you saw the difference in the Week eight 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: team game. You know, I think he was he was 54 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: throwing the football, um, you know, on the move from 55 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: the pocket. But the one thing you could see was 56 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: not the called quarterback runs, the design runs a draw, 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback power, um, you know, the zone read was 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: not a big component of what they did from the 59 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: run game. Um. You know, That's where you know, Jalen 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: really makes this offense for the Philadelphia Eagles unique is 61 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: when he's a part of that that run game. So 62 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: that that that will be the biggest thing for us is. 63 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: I think that's what shows you, you know, where they're 64 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: going to be from an offensive group Saturday night, is 65 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: how much he's involved in the run game. Mos on 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: with you a thousand percent. And I think what people 67 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: don't realize, you know, if he doesn't run it as much, 68 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: it will reflect on his numbers in the box score 69 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: with the rushing yards and everything. But if he's not 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: a threat, I think it really changes the Eagles traditional 71 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: run game too, because the defense that doesn't have to 72 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: assign someone to watch out for hurts on that back side, 73 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: which and I think reduces the effectiveness of Miles Sanders 74 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: and everything else that Eagles try to do run in 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: the football. Yeah, you get away from that true eleven 76 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: verses eleven run game and now all of a sudden 77 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: you're kind of stuck. You know, ten verses eleven and 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: it's a completely different thing. And you know it's it's 79 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: one of those offenses where a lot of it is 80 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: built off you know, that that action, that threat of 81 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback run and what he's able to do. So 82 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see the response from WENK Martindale 83 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: once he kind of gets to read on, Okay, what 84 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: do we what do we have to defend him that 85 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: where's that priority? Is it going to shift? Is Jalen 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: not going to be, you know, a threat in that 87 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: run game, or or is he is he truly all 88 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: the way back and playing without limitations. And I think 89 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: once he kind of becomes comfortable with what his assessment 90 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: is of that and what we'll see him either continue 91 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: to to play the way that he's going to approach 92 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: the game, because you have to start out assuming that 93 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: that Jalen Hurts is and then if he's not, you 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: can make that adjustment at that point. And I'll be 95 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: interested to see if if coach Martin Dale ever does that. 96 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: Have you gotten a feel talking to the Eagles this 97 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: week what you think he's gonna look like? Is the 98 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: way he sounded publicly talking at press conferences, It sounds 99 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: like Jalen Hurts is going to try to play like 100 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. I just wonder how long his body will 101 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: allow him to play like Jalen Hurts. That's the indication 102 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: that we're getting. I mean, when when you hear you 103 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: know he's not on the he's not an injury list. Um, 104 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: everything you're hearing from the organization has him, Um, you know, 105 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: not limitations on what we're going to do. No, this 106 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: is not going to be like Week A team versus 107 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: the Giants when um, you know he was not at 108 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: but we needed to win that game. So I think 109 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: you're going to see them approach the game that this 110 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: is a healthy m VP candidate quality. Jalen hurts, but 111 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: it's going to be in the lineup Saturday night, all right, 112 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: So how do the Giants then assuming Jalen's Jalen and 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: I think I agree. I think the Giants have to 114 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: go and assuming that's the case, and then adjust if 115 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: he's not. We saw them adjust what they do defensively 116 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: against the Vikings last week. Wink only blitz like tent 117 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: of the time. It's more than half of less than 118 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: half rather of their normal blitz rate. They played a 119 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: lot more two team zone. They bracted justin Jefferson. Now, 120 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't think, given the differences in the way the 121 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: Vikings and Eagles play, you can just duplicate that and 122 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: play that again. So what do you think the best 123 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: way is Wink kind of approaches against Philly? Will it 124 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: be a blitz heavy scheme? Are they gonna try and 125 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: take one of the receivers at will a b man, 126 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: will it be zone? What do you think Wink is 127 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: gonna try to do to slow down this Eagles offense. 128 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a mix of a lot 129 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: of different things. I think the one thing he wants 130 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: to do is is try to keep Jalen Hurts guessing 131 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: as as much as he can. Um. You know last 132 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: week against Minnesota, UM, you can generate pressure with force. 133 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: So there's an opportunity to kind of sit back and 134 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: play some of that cover to show, UM, you're really 135 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: worried more about Justin Jefferson and a feeling is a 136 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: very good receiver. UM. You know, obviously Hockinson had a 137 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: nice afternoon there. Um. So there's some things that you 138 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: may give up. But the one thing you don't want 139 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: to do is but Justin Jefferson, you know, win that game. 140 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: And he had a great game earlier in the season, 141 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: so you know, fresh in your mind is how well 142 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: he plays the game and how he can take it over. 143 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: So you know, if we're gonna lose today, we're not 144 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: gonna get beat by the one threat that that can 145 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: turn this game around. So you play it that way. 146 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: But I think there were other things that played into 147 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: that that that helped the Giants defense go with that route, 148 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, having a Doory Jackson back and up the 149 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: full speed um. You know, just you know, getting everybody 150 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: healthy has been the big thing defensively. To have the 151 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Xavier McKenny, a Doory Jackson, Nard Williams, all those guys playing, 152 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: which which Philip if he's going to see for the 153 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: first time, I think that that's something that's going to 154 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: be interesting as well. Um, there were matchups in that 155 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota game that enabled them to play that style of defense. 156 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: I don't think those exist where you can play it 157 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: at that that frequency this week against Philly. UM. So 158 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: when you talk about Davante Smith and A. J. Brown 159 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: on the outside, Dallas Goddard at tight ends, Watkins is 160 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: a is a good third receiver, and then you've got 161 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders and Jalen Hurts Um you know who who 162 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: posed a problem running the football. And then you've got 163 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: Boston Scott who always seems to play well against the Giants. 164 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: So there's a there's a number of different things, and 165 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think when you talk about his own 166 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: that that's a lot of weapons to allow to have 167 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, some easy catching runs afterwards. So I think 168 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: what we'll see from from Wink Martin dell Is is 169 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: a number of different things to try and throw at 170 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. He had success last time they played getting 171 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 1: to him. They had three sacks and that two lost 172 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: when he did pressure m you know, more like we 173 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: would see the Giants defense at the pressure levels. So 174 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: you know he's he's had success there. And I just 175 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: think with with the way that he's going to approach this, 176 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: we'll we'll see a good mix of things. It will 177 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: probably be based on position on the field, downing distance. 178 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a reason why coach Martindale is drawing 179 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: up that type of defensive approach um and and it 180 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: probably will be based on specific things that he's discovered. 181 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: Osel Yeah, and look, and I think if you play 182 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: as much too, safety is deep asited against Minnesota, you know, 183 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: the Vikings do don't want to run the ball, they 184 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: want to throw it. I think the Eagles would just 185 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: pound you to death until you bring somebody up to 186 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. To to to be honest with you, Um, 187 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: one matchup Moose that intrigues me in this game is 188 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence against Jason Kelsey, and I'm sure he'll get 189 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: some help from his friends to his left and right 190 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: as well. You know, Dexter Lawrence has frankly probably been 191 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: the best player on the Giants this year. He's been dominant. 192 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: Without him the last week, they probably don't beat Minnesota, 193 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: they don't get those final two stops on those drives. 194 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: Kelsey's great, he's a Hall of Famer, but he's all 195 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: under side. So when you look at that matchup, what 196 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: are you going to keep an eye as a guy 197 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: who made his living in the trenches. Yeah, it's gonna 198 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: be fun. Um. And then you add the fact that 199 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams will be playing with Dexter Lawrence for the 200 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: first time against still at ELV. That's a that's another 201 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: thing that that Jason is going to have to worry about. 202 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: But we had a great conversation with him today and 203 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of respect for for Dexter Lawrence and 204 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: the season that he's had. Um. You know, he mentioned 205 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: Brandon Brooks as a guy that was on the Eagles 206 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: that that he would play against, you know, in training 207 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: camp and things like that, and saying that that he 208 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: was one of the biggest guys he'd ever gone against, 209 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: and he puts Dexter Lawrence into that class. Is just 210 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, one of those interior players that that's got 211 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: great size, great quickness, UM, smart player. I mean, just 212 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of respect from Jason Kelsey to Dexter Lawrence, 213 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: and I think a little bit vice versa. You know, 214 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: I saw some comments from from Dexter Lawrence this week 215 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: talking about you know, Jason Kelsey's a little bit undersized, 216 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: but he uses great body control. He's a great leverage player. 217 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, he gets a little bit of help from 218 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: the guards. But UM, you know, I think that there's 219 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: mutual respect between the two. I think things are one 220 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: in these types of games. I really feel like the 221 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: offensive defensive lines kind of dictate how the the game 222 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: flow is going to go. UM. So it's gonna be 223 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: a great battle to watch inside. UM. But the guard center, 224 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: guard area for Philly, UM, you know, it's kind of 225 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: that area that's going to have to play well. Their 226 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: tackles are going to be good on the outside edges. UM. 227 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: You know, especially if it's Lane Johnson's able to play 228 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: the entire game. But yeah, our focus is going to 229 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: be down there inside we're Leonard and dexter On. Is 230 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: your sense Lane Johnson's gonna be okay? It is? It is? Um. 231 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: You know, he was actually uh, you know, through the 232 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: bye week, you know, getting some reps in there. Um. 233 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if anybody knows, you know, 234 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: what the health will be during the course of the game, 235 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: because he's got an injury that he's trying to play through. Um. 236 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: And when you're talking about anchoring and taking pass sets 237 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: on on on large athletic men. Uh, you know, how 238 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: is that injured gonna hold up? Nobody knows. I don't 239 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: even think Lane Johnson knows, you know, how that's gonna 240 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, work out through the course of the game. 241 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: But but he's gonna go out there and and his 242 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: full motivation has been to get to this point. Um. 243 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's been talking about, you know, maybe 244 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: howing a surgery recommended, but not wanting to do it 245 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: at that time. So obviously there is there is a 246 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: significant injury there that he's gonna have to address in 247 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: the off season. The question is can you manage it 248 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the playoffs? Here to finish this season. 249 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's flip the script. Now we've talked a 250 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: lot about Eagles offense. Mo's about their defense. That's a 251 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: ridiculous number two off the NFL record set by the 252 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: eight four Bears. You're the Giants offense. You see that front, 253 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: it looks like, Josh, what's gonna be good to go 254 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: in this game? How do you approach that? And just 255 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: trying to just operate your offense knowing that pass rushing 256 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: and how good it is. The big thing is it 257 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: has to come out quickly. The football has to come 258 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: out quickly. Um, you know it's gonna be hard for 259 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: anybody to hold up. The most important thing though, is 260 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: to stay out of the obvious passing situations. So you know, 261 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: how productive can they be on first down and second down? Um? 262 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing wrong with a four yard game, 263 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: six yard game that keeps you ahead of the change. 264 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: So I think that that's one of the big thing. 265 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: Can can the Giants stay out of the the obvious 266 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: passing situation? And and then the biggest thing when you 267 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: look big picture for the game, can they start the 268 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: game better than they have the previous two times? You 269 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: know you fall behind twenty one nothing, you know, that 270 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: terrible stretch in the second quarter of the Week four 271 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: team game, and all of a sudden, it's twenty one nothing, 272 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: and now you're chasing it, and now those those defensive 273 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: linemen are really going to be coming after Daniel Jones 274 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: and and in even in Week eighteen it was nineteen 275 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: to nothing, So you know, you're kind of out of 276 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: it at that point. So you're gonna have to play 277 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: a certain style. It's it's really tough to kind of 278 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: hanging there with your traditional game point once you get 279 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: to that point. So the biggest thing for the Giants 280 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: can they stay out of the known passing situations and 281 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: can they stay close? Can they push this game, you know, 282 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: late their early fourth quarter and hopefully the ball bounces 283 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: their way and they can get some momentum. But you've 284 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: got to be competitive at halftime. But when when you 285 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: go into the locker room at halftime, it has to 286 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: be a competitive game. So most the Giants have done 287 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot more passing the last few weeks. And I think, 288 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: and please correct me if you disagree, I'm guessing that's 289 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: probably just because of the matchup against the Vikings and 290 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: the struggles they have in the secondary. Do you expect 291 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: a heavier dose of s Quan and Daniel Jones frankly 292 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: in the run game in this game that we maybe 293 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: saw the last couple of weeks will be more balanced. 294 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Do you think we're going to see another pass heavy attack. Well, 295 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: it's it's the number one past defense in the NFL 296 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: and seven sacks, so you know it's not a great 297 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: matchup to be sitting us on the ball all over 298 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: the place. Um. I think that the growth of the 299 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver position. Um. You know, when you look at 300 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: how that group you know has matured over the last 301 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, five to eight weeks and really starting to 302 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: hit their stride, I think they've they've brought the ability 303 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: for it to be a little bit more balanced and 304 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: and be a little bit more selective than what they 305 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: want to do from a play calling standpoint. So, uh, 306 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: that will be you know, the big thing for my 307 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: calf guys is as the play caller, you know, just okay, 308 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: what is our best opportunity right here? We can be 309 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more balanced than what we want to do. 310 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: We don't have to to to throw the football because 311 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: we've still that's our best thing. Um, you know, let's 312 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: let's do it because we feel that gives us the 313 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: most chance for for success. So I do think it 314 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: should still be a part of it. I like the 315 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: fact that they threw on the first day, and I 316 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: think first down you have a much better feel for 317 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: what the defense is going to do. I think they 318 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: dictate to you a little bit on second and third down, 319 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: but you know, you can get an idea of how 320 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: they're choosing to play you. There should be some consistency 321 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: on first down UM, and that gives Daniel Jones a 322 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: little bit more of an opportunity to have some success UM. 323 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: And and then really what I like from him last 324 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: week was just the really quick decisions maybe one two 325 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: in this progression it's not there on and pull the 326 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: ball down and to take advantage of of the green 327 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: grass in front of me and gets some positive yards. 328 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: The one the one area where the Eagles have struggled 329 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: is quarterback scrambles. They've given up over nine yards for 330 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: scramble in the NFL. I think that's the most during 331 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: the course of the season. So with their upfield defensive 332 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: line and the defense that drops back all of a sudden, 333 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: you've got that big void in between your defensive line 334 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: and your your first line of coverage. So, um, you know, 335 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: can Neil Jones exploit that like he did last week? 336 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: But but I think they are going to have to 337 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: be successful running the football. You know that that's something 338 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: they're going to have to do, say Kuon Barkley, it 339 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: was going to have to be somebody that the Eagles 340 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: defense has to be concerned about in situations funding with football. 341 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: So you know, how productive can they be with just 342 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: that traditional run game? Was final question? When the Giants 343 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: do have to throw it and they have to give 344 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: her a big third and seven or something like that, 345 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: how do you attack this? This Eagle secondary got a 346 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: couple of really good corners. Jon C. Gardner Johnson is 347 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: now kind of their slot, right. You know, do you 348 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: think they're gonna play a lot of man a lot 349 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: of his own? What do you think the best way 350 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: is to attack that Eagle secondary which has been so 351 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: good this year? Yeah? I think the one thing that 352 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: you saw with Dallas in that second go around, um 353 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: was was moving Ceedee Lamb into the slot and taking 354 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: advantage of Josiah Scott Um. You know, Avonte Maddix was 355 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: out of the lineup. When he's in there, it's it's 356 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: it's really a challenging secondary to throw the ball against. 357 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: And he got Darius Slay and got James Bradburry, and 358 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: then you've got Vonte matt in the slot. Would see C. J. 359 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson now back in the line. I've been kind 360 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: of manning that Vante Maddock's slot pocisition. Um, you know, 361 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: that makes it a little tougher, But I think it's 362 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: gonna be intriguing interesting to see if if Mike Kafka 363 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: tries to do something in the slot, you know, Desaiah 364 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens get into the slot a little bit more 365 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: um and and try to take advantage of that matchup. 366 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: The two guys on the outside are tough, um, you know, 367 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna be that's gonna be a challenge on the outside. 368 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: I'd like to see them try to win the middle 369 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: of the field with with Bellinger and maybe Hodgens in 370 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: the slot, I think that that gives them the best opportunity. 371 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: So we'll we'll see if they can work that middle 372 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: of the field. But I think it's something that that 373 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: Dallas showed a little bit of vulnerability there. But They've 374 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: made an adjustment with the personnel, bringing c Jake Gardner 375 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Johnson down air, the band that that slot corner position, 376 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: and then his big picture of Moose. When you see 377 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: this Giant's team and where they've gotten, I mean, I'm 378 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: sitting here in the building, I still kind of pinch 379 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: myself sometimes that, Yeah, they're in the second round of 380 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs and you saw them roll in the year. 381 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: You've seen Now where has the growth come from? Why 382 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: have they been able to develop into the scene that's 383 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: been able to get to the divisional round and have 384 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: a chance to go to the NFC title game. Yeah, 385 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: I think it's It's one of those things that a 386 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: lot of people probably feel as cliche when coach Table 387 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: talks about the process, but that to me is the 388 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: big thing. Um, I think the impressive thing is is 389 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: they were going through the process in the beginning of 390 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: the year that they were able to get out to 391 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: the start that they did. Um, you know, that's when 392 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: you would have thought they had the bump in the road, 393 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: not not later in the season, but you know, to 394 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: kind of be able to come through that first half 395 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: of the season with the record they had, with you know, 396 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: a lot of injuries carried over from some training camp, 397 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty, and a lot of change at 398 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: the wide receiver position through the first half of the season. Um, 399 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: and yet they were still able to put themselves in 400 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: a position to manage a little bit of a lull there, 401 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, after that midway point. So since that time, 402 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, you've gotten sen stability and consistency in your 403 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: offensive line. They're playing as well as they have all 404 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: season long. You've got consistency and chemistry with your quarterback 405 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: and your wide receiver group because they've been able to 406 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: play for for several weeks now. So there's the group 407 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: going through that process of developing that that team weren't components. 408 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: So the other part on the defensive side of the ball, 409 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: it was, you know, the same thing. The secondary had 410 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: a ton of injuries. And whether it's a storm there, 411 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: you get Xavier McKinney back, you get a Story Jackson back. 412 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: But now Cordell Flood is a little bit better. Um, 413 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, Donne Holmes is a little bit better. So 414 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: you know, people have gotten experience and you've created depth 415 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: and now you've got fresh bodies rolling through. Uh. You know, 416 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: Cavon Thibodeaux has really grown. So this is actually a 417 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: team in their first year that has done everything you 418 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: would hope they would do. They get in, they they 419 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: learned from their mistakes, you know, early in the season, 420 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: learning a new offense, learning a new defense. And then 421 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: you get to the tail end of the season and 422 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: to the old cliche, we're playing our best football as 423 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: we go into the playoffs. And and for all the 424 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: Giants fans to be able to watch that game last 425 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: week and undoubtedly say might have the best game we 426 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: played all season long was wild card weekend and what 427 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: can we do the next week? Um, and now you've 428 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: got that, you know that mojo out there where every 429 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: time the Giants have won a wild card round, they've 430 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: gone to the super Bowl and one two of those three. 431 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: So I'm sure the Giant stands are pretty excited about 432 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: what they accomplished last week. If you're if you're a 433 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: fan of history, most great stuff. We appreciate the time 434 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: so much. And make sure, folks, if if you're if 435 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: you're watching on TV, and make sure you tune into 436 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: Fox on Saturday night. Darryl has the call right there 437 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: on Fox. Moose good stuff man. Hopefully I'll see it 438 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: then Affilly on Saturday night. All right, sounds good. Good 439 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: luck to you guys. That's Darren Moose Johnston. Just remember 440 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: go check out the previous episodes of the John Suttle Podcast. 441 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: This week Mike Mayock a couple episodes ago. Uh. The 442 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: last one is the one with the Dory Jackson, A 443 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: great interview with him about last week's matchup with Justin 444 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: Jefferson and the challenges of the Eagles wide receivers. And 445 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: then our Wednesday night w fan show as well. Those 446 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: are the last three episodes. Go check him out of 447 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: the John Suttle Podcast, brought to you by PSC and 448 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: G Energy Efficiency for game time and anytime, visit p 449 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: s e G dot com slash Giants for discounts, rebates 450 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: and home energy assessments. I'm John Schmilk, thanks to Darrell 451 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: Johnston from Fox Sports. We'll see you next time on 452 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: the Giants Huddle Podcast.