1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. Josh here, Chuck here, 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: that's it, and this is short stuff. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 3: I kept thinking we had covered this, but I don't 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 3: think we covered it this specifically. And what made me 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 3: think of this was the other day I saw a 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: video that was a drone flying over North Sentinel Island. Yeah, 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: and these you know, this uncontacted tribe looking up obviously, 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 3: and they were pretty high up. They weren't buzzing them, 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: I will say that. But I was also like, and 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: I was heartened to find the Instagram comments were mainly 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: like please leave them alone largely, but North Sentinel Island 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 3: is part of a larger island chain called the Andaman 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: and Nicobar Islands and the Bay of Bengal, about seven 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: hundred miles off of India. And it is noteworthy because 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: anywhere between fifty and five hundred of these Sentinel Theese 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: people live there completely uncontacted, even though they're like maybe 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: twenty miles away from islands that are have incorporated some 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 3: modern spoils. 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they live essentially in the same manner as 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: Neolithic cunter gatherers. Don't wear clothes, They walk around naked 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: as the day they were born, They spearfish, they use 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: dugout canoes that aren't particularly seaworthy, and they don't like 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: visitors at all. Essentially, there's been one one event of 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: contact with them that you could even remotely consider peaceful. 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: I guess it would definitely be a piece. Yeah, Yeah, 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: But every other contact with them has either been repelled 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: by a volley of arrows or has resulted in the 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: person's death, I should say, and or resulted in the 30 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: person's death from that volley of arrows. And that's why, 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: like those Instagram comments were saying, like, leave these people alone. 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: They've clearly told the modern world leave us alone. 33 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. In other words, these people are your heroes. 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like the naked part especially. Yeah. 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: I really think a lot of these folks. I got 36 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 2: to get me a bow and arrow. 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: In the eighteenth century is when they were first discovered 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: with Dutch, Austrian and British merchant ships looking for better 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: trade routes, and the first European settlers arrived there in 40 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: the eighteen fifties, when Britain built a penal colony on 41 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: an island about thirty miles from North Sentinel Island and 42 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: kind of not too long after that, I guess it 43 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: was about forty years or so, there was a prisoner 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: who tried to escape on a raft from that penal 45 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 3: colony washed up on shore of North Sentinel and they 46 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: found him dead by arrow or arrows rather. 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: Yes, And that confirmed those sightings from the seventeen seventies 48 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: that there were definitely people living on this island. You don't, like, 49 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: there's no natural arrows that you can fall on top of. 50 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: That's just how it goes. I'm sorry, I don't know 51 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: the roard. 52 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: Everyone knows that you don't fall on an arrow. 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: Right, but even still, if you do fall on an arrow, 54 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: somebody made that arrow. So it definitely suggested human in 55 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: human habitation of the island. And it also showed, yeah, 56 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: they probably don't want people showing up even accidentally like 57 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: that prisoner did. 58 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like I got out of there, I 60 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: washed up on this island, so amazing. 61 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, ooh, that's a really good arrow sound. 62 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: Message for you, sir. 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: In nineteen sixty seven, the Anthropological Survey of India sent 64 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: a team of twenty people to try and make peaceful 65 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: contact with them. And you know, they were well known 66 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: at this point for like any ship that comes by, 67 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: they're going to get arrowed at at least as a warning, 68 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: you know, probably not killing anyone from the shore to 69 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: a ship, but that message again saying please don't come here. 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: And they went ashore, and. 71 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: They basically had gone into hiding. They saw their huts, 72 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: they saw that they had fires going, and abandoned their meals. 73 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: I am quite sure that they were, you know, the 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: sentinel knees were sitting there watching them from wherever they 75 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: had perched. 76 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: Sure, kind of. 77 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: Going through their stuff, and so they left them some gifts. 78 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: They left them coconuts because they didn't have coconuts. They 79 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: left them iron rods and. 80 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: Sporks. 81 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, plastic utensils, which is so bizarre. 82 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't get that part. 83 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, why don't you learn how to litter? 84 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: That'll make you modern? 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, is this the best thing we can offer 86 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: you that you haven't seen yet. 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: You mentioned that they had fires going. I read somewhere 88 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: that they are thought to not actually know how to 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: make fire, and that they keep embers tended from lightning 90 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: strikes or fires created naturally from lightning strikes. 91 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: Quest for fire, remember that one. 92 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good one. Should we take a break, Yeah, 93 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: and let's go watch Quests for Fire, right, be right back. 94 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: Right on Chong. 95 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, what was the guy's name? 96 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 97 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: Uhh, yeah, the guy Sonny Bono. 98 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: Wasn't it a question fire? 99 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: What's his face? 100 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: Uh? 101 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: The hell boy? 102 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: Hell boy? 103 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 104 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: Ron, No, oh, I can't think people are screaming at 105 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: us right now. 106 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: He's a feisty guy. 107 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: In real life. 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 109 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: He was great in Drive. You remember that movie? 110 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: Uh? 111 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Drive, great movie. I think I've told 112 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: you before. I did a double feature of Drive and 113 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: Neon Demon in my brain was melting. 114 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: Wow, Ron Perlman, everybody. 115 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yeah, Ria Perlman. 116 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: Oh, wonder if they're related. 117 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: Maybe they look very similar. 118 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: All right, so where did we leave off? 119 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: They came back after their their one semi successful you know, 120 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: offering of coconuts and things like that, and in the 121 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: early nineteen nineties they said, hey, let's take another stab 122 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: at this and let's bring a woman this time, which 123 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: turned out to be a really good idea. 124 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, because this was the one encounter 125 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: that you could truly call peaceful, because they actually did 126 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: encounter the Sentineleese this time, and it totally makes sense 127 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: that the presence of a woman would have made it 128 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: a peaceful encounter, because I could see that if the 129 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: Sentinelese followed typical patriarchal structures, they don't take women on 130 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: raiding parties. So the presence of a woman would suggest 131 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: that this wasn't a rating party. And they let their 132 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: guard down for one reason, or I think that's the 133 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: likeliest reason. They let their guard down. And the way 134 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: that the Anthropological Society got them to basically interact with 135 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: them was to float coconuts to them from the boat. 136 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: And I guess from that first gift of coconuts in 137 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: the sixties, the Sentinel'ese were very happy to see those 138 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: things again. 139 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: Oh man, it's been decades. You tease this with coconuts. 140 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: These things are amazing. 141 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: My grandfather told me about these. 142 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 143 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: Basically, so they did not fire any arrows. They floated 144 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: the coconuts. Some of the Sentineliese came into the water, 145 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: collected those things up, and they waded out to the boat, 146 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: even examined the boat, and allowed some of the outsiders 147 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: even to walk around on the beach and interact with 148 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 3: the women teenagers and children who they brought out, which 149 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: was I mean, this was a rousing success that just 150 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: should have stopped there. 151 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it should have. I guess, well it kind of did, 152 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: didn't it. I mean that after that, India passed the 153 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: law that said no one to contact the Sentinel, least. 154 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: As far as the official Indian government goes. But that 155 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 3: didn't stop a certain someone from going. 156 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: No. Oh, actually no it didn't. In two thousand and six, 157 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: some fishermen from me and mar had to make an 158 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: emergency landing and they were killed. Their bodies were buried 159 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: in the sand of North Sentinel Island. But the more 160 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: famous death on North Sentinel Island came much more recently. 161 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: I think it was in twenty eighteen that a twenty 162 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: six year old missionary and adventurer named John Allan Chow 163 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: died from arrow wounds on North Sentinel Island. And this 164 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: was not the first time he showed up on North 165 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: Sentinel Island. 166 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: No, he was trying to spread the word of God. 167 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: He was chronicling all of this in his diary, and 168 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: he knew what he was in for. He you know, 169 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: to his credit, he got all the vaccinations to make 170 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 3: sure that he didn't get them sick and stuff like that, 171 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: and he brought dental forceps apparently in case he got arrowed, 172 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: because he knew that was a possibility. He made a 173 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: few different trips. He had this you know, local fisherman 174 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: kind of take him out and back. The first time 175 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: he waited up, he brought a fish as a gift 176 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: and said, my name is John, I love you and 177 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 3: Jesus loves you, and it was harrows. 178 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: They did not get him. 179 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: He came back, they arrowed at him again, did not 180 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: get him again. And I guess fool me twice wasn't 181 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: in John Allen Chowles's repertoire because he came back a 182 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: third time and was arrowed for good. 183 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. The fisherman he bribed to take him out there, 184 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: and bribed as the word because they were knowingly breaking 185 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: the law by helping him. Contact the North Sentinelese they 186 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: reported that they saw his body being dragged along the 187 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: sand by the sentinelsee, and that they buried it. And 188 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: they buried all these guys, yeah, which I find interesting because. 189 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: It's respect, you know. 190 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, But John Allen chows remains are still there today, 191 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: as are the two fishermen who had to make an 192 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: emergency landing the fishermen from me and mar because part 193 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: of not contacting the Sentinellees is not raiding nor Sentinel Island, 194 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: trying to bring the people who killed those guys to 195 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: justice and or even recover the remains. So they're there 196 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: for well, who knows how long. 197 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: Probably for good. I also failed to mention that in 198 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: his second of the three trips, when he is arrowed at, 199 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: and I believe this was in his diaries, a young 200 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: boy actually shot an arrow through his waterproof bible that 201 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: he was holding up. And if that sort of symbolic 202 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 3: message wasn't enough to keep them away, then nothing would happen. 203 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, because he came back. But yeah, he's on 204 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: one side, especially among evangelicals, he's viewed as literally a martyr. 205 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: On other sides, probably people on Instagram, he's viewed as 206 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: an interloper who should not have been where he was, Julie. 207 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And of course I don't think any loss of 208 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: life like that is okay. But I just think people 209 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: should heed the warnings like they don't want to be contacted. 210 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so just don't contact. 211 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: Them, leave the North sent and the leaves alone. Yeah, 212 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: short Stuff is out. 213 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: Stuff you Should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. 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