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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to a Friday Nation of Texans All

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Speaker 1: Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: John Harris, as I have been every single Friday in

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Speaker 1: football season now in the eighth year, and boy do

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Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about. We are going

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Speaker 1: to have one of my good friends on the show

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Speaker 1: who caught up with Drew Doherty, David Anderson. We're also

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Speaker 1: going to have a couple of running backs. Philip Lindsay

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Speaker 1: did a little deep slant which was very, very fun.

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Speaker 1: We'll also have a little Drew's Dozen with David Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Got my predictions straight up and against the spread. It's

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Speaker 1: always one of my favorite segments. And we don't have

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Speaker 1: to pick a Texans game because they played last night

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Speaker 1: twenty four to nine loss to the Carolina Panthers, and

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Speaker 1: that brings in my friend, my pal, my partner on

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Speaker 1: the radio, Mark Vanderbert, Mark the night after. We're about

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Speaker 1: less than twenty four hours removed from the Finnish last

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Speaker 1: night to Carolina Panthers. I ask you this, at your

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Speaker 1: gut reaction. We got a lot to get into, right,

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Speaker 1: but your gut reaction just thirty thousand foot view of

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Speaker 1: what took place the Energy Stadium last night. Look at

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Speaker 1: the NFL, so a lot of these games are super close, right,

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Speaker 1: and you're supposed to be in them. That's the way

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Speaker 1: the league is designed. And with the Cleveland game, in

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Speaker 1: this game, you're right there in the fourth quarter, make

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Speaker 1: some plays, make a stop, and you get the ball

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Speaker 1: back and you have a chance to in the case

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Speaker 1: of the Cleveland game, take the lead. In the case

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Speaker 1: of last night, touching a two ties it up. I

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Speaker 1: know it's a lot to ask, especially the way moving

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Speaker 1: the ball was difficult last night against that number one defense,

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Speaker 1: but you know, there were some good things I saw.

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Speaker 1: It's just frustrating. Johnny, you mentioned the running backs. Will

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Speaker 1: have them on the show tonight, and I think these

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Speaker 1: guys are talented, but for whatever reason, I'm going over

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Speaker 1: the names on the old line. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: name them all right now. But these are talented players too,

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Speaker 1: and they're just not running the ball. They're not able

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Speaker 1: to run the ball. And I got thrown questions this

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Speaker 1: morning from a San Antonio station the ticket seven to sixty,

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Speaker 1: that's one of our affiliates. They were asking me and

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Speaker 1: Davis Mills possibly steal this quarterback job, and I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, look, he's got an opportunity to play well here,

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Speaker 1: he's got two more starts minimum. We'll see how they go.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing about this team. That running ability

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Speaker 1: of to Rod Taylor is key to being able to

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Speaker 1: move the football in general for this particular team. And

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Speaker 1: I think with even with Watson playing for the Texans

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Speaker 1: the last few years, his running ability was key to

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Speaker 1: being able to move the football because that's an extra threat.

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Speaker 1: You know, Andre always talks about it, you know, defending

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Speaker 1: eleven or whatever it is, that's an extra threat. Now

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Speaker 1: Mills might be capable of that, but he's not that

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Speaker 1: kind of quarterback. He's a pocket passer who has some mobility.

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Speaker 1: He can move around in the pocket and out of

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Speaker 1: the pocket. But Taylor, you know, can take off and

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Speaker 1: really do something special with his legs, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's missing. So my gut reaction is you're right there

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Speaker 1: and you're just so close to getting over the hump,

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Speaker 1: but you're not. You need players back, and for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: it's just tough to run the ball. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's even a bigger factor than what ails them defensively

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Speaker 1: right now. The lack of a ground attack. You're right,

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Speaker 1: I think, and I've thought about this a lot. My

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Speaker 1: last year coaching was two thousand and I remember as

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Speaker 1: I would look at the various things that I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do offensively, and I had a quarterback who was

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Speaker 1: a dual threat quarterback. Now there's a difference between a

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Speaker 1: dual threat quarterback and a mobile quarterbacks. The two quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: you saw last night, and Sam Darnold and Davis Mills

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Speaker 1: their mobile quarterbacks, and the difference is with a dual

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Speaker 1: threat quarterback, you'll scheme up some runs for that quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tyrod, there was some schemed up runs for him.

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Speaker 1: I think Darnald pulled it on his zone read at

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Speaker 1: one point, but that's baked into the office. Davis could

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Speaker 1: pull it on his own read if it came to.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are athletic enough. They're mobile quarterbacks. You saw

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Speaker 1: them get out of trouble a couple of times. But

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Speaker 1: the dual threat quarterback now put so much pressure and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna see one next week in Josh Allen. They

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Speaker 1: put so much pressure on a defense to mind their

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Speaker 1: thinking about the game at Jacksonville, they kind of at

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Speaker 1: So the answer to that is, okay, so you gotta

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Speaker 1: you got a pocket passer, right, That's what'll called Davis

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Speaker 1: mills ad. He's you got a pocket passer? So okay,

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Speaker 1: how do you keep guys honest such that you can

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Speaker 1: run the ball. How do you end up doing that?

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the question that's facing Tim Kelly

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Speaker 1: in this offensive staff this weekend. Yeah, and that is

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Speaker 1: guys are sitting and they're just gonna take. Now, look

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Speaker 1: this Panthers defense, it's ridiculously good, I mean ridiculously good.

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Speaker 1: And the way that the Panthers went about putting it together.

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Speaker 1: They're twenty twenty draft. You gonna look at it it's

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Speaker 1: all defense. It's Derek Brown to pick seven or eight,

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Speaker 1: it's Jeremy Chin in the second round, and those two

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Speaker 1: into a player. Then they draft JC Horn in this

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Speaker 1: But the additions they made through free agency with Hassan

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Speaker 1: Reddick and Morgan Fox really gave that defense a fast,

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Speaker 1: aggressive mentality. And Phil Snow's the perfect defense coordinate for that.

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Speaker 1: And so with Davis, I think they just said, look,

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Speaker 1: as a defense, you can't stop everything. It just felt

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Speaker 1: like the Panthers could stop everything, but you can't stop everything.

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Speaker 1: And so he felt like, you know what, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: roll the dice, see if we can get them behind

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Speaker 1: third down. He's sitting there going, all right, you're about

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Speaker 1: to see some stuff. What they say, when this thing

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Speaker 1: some serious stuff. And we saw it last night. There

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Speaker 1: were times where they would show six or seven guys

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Speaker 1: and the Texans would set their pass protection and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden they would they would split the protection,

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Speaker 1: they did what they wanted to. So they just said, look,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna sell out because they they banked on the

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Speaker 1: fact you don't have Tyrod Taylor, you don't have those RPOs.

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Speaker 1: We're not really gonna get caught in conflict tire, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna challenge you to beat us with some play

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Speaker 1: action before we respect the fact that we gotta back

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Speaker 1: up a little bit because your play action is good enough.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's one thing. The other thing is quite simply,

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta block the right guy. You got

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Speaker 1: the holes. And when there is a hole there, they

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Speaker 1: gotta hit the hole. And when you're struggling just with anything,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it. You play golf, you

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Speaker 1: I should go to the left, but I gotta make

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Speaker 1: something happen. So you're precious, so you go back to

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Speaker 1: So everybody's just now panicking and trying to look for things.

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Speaker 1: But that's got to be the charge I think of

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Speaker 1: this offensive staff over the weekend is how do you

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Speaker 1: get that thing going? Now? Look Like I said that

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Speaker 1: that was less than fifty. But here's the thing that

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Speaker 1: make things happen. But they had difficulty. Look, I can't

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Speaker 1: blame Kelly. You know, why are you Why are you

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Speaker 1: running on first and second down? They're trying to get

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Speaker 1: something going on the ground and they got a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Never mind who the quarterback is. You're trying to have

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Speaker 1: And if you don't pick up third dams they were

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Mills. He didn't throw it for

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Speaker 1: the running game, you gotta be ready, you gotta be

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Speaker 1: better at defense. Yes, it's all true. It's all true.

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Speaker 1: And you could make the case maybe they should be

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Speaker 1: But you know then you're gonna say, all right, we

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Speaker 1: gave up two touchdowns doing this and that the other thing,

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Speaker 1: and now we're completely out of it. They're right there,

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Speaker 1: they're just not making those critical fourth quarter plays. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a great point. You go down and

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Speaker 1: score the touchdown in Cleveland in the fourth quarter, he

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Speaker 1: hits Cooks the fourth Yeah, the fourth quarter. You make

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Speaker 1: got a rookie quarterback on the field, you lost a

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Speaker 1: couple of receivers already, and he leads you down there

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Speaker 1: for a touchdown to make it twenty four twenty one

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Speaker 1: people think is a top five team in the league

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland, on the road, in their building, the first

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Speaker 1: time they plays in front of a full crowd since

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. And your rookie leads you down there to

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Speaker 1: get you within three, you need to stop. You can't

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Speaker 1: get to stop. Even at that point, you don't get

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Speaker 1: later that a fuel goal gets you within a touchdown

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Speaker 1: on site kick and you know what I mean, Now,

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Speaker 1: what happens, Well, last night in the fourth quarter, you

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Speaker 1: kicked the fuel goal. Now, Joey slide, No, he did

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Speaker 1: I think Davis played with some guts. I think he

427
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Speaker 1: showed a lot of toughness. I think he played his

428
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: guts out. I think he made some throws and showed

429
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Speaker 1: some promise. I'm with you, I've been I've been saying

430
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: that from the time he was drafted. It ain't gonna

431
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 1: be perfect, especially with the rookie quarterback. But under fire

432
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Speaker 1: from some of the things he saw last night against

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00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: the Panthers and some of the throws he made, I

434
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: am really encouraged about Davis Mills. However, I wonder if

435
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Speaker 1: Tyrod had stay healthy. How does the Cleveland game finish?

436
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: And then how does that one go? If Tyrod's movement

437
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Speaker 1: ability gives them the issues that you think you could

438
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Speaker 1: have given them. Well, here's the good news. The good

439
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: news is Taylor's coming back. Yeah, Amon Dola's coming back,

440
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: Nico's coming back, Read and Common are coming They're all

441
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: coming back. Right. You got out of the game healthy.

442
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: David Culley said it this morning. You got out of

443
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: this one relatively healthy. I say relatively because you weren't

444
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: healthy going in. But at least they survived this one.

445
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 1: They took the loss, and now they get a little

446
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: chance to mend up. Mills can watch some tape. You

447
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,439
Speaker 1: go to Buffalo, you give it your best shot, but

448
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 1: eventually those guys are coming back and you'll have a

449
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: chance to do some damage here. Want to know in

450
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: the division, Colts and the Titans hook up this week?

451
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: Who we shared for? Oh that's a good one, all right.

452
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: I mean, if I can't win here for any question,

453
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: I can't even watch it. I'm gonna have red zone on. Okay,

454
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 1: But here's a good point. What here's a good point.

455
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: Colts have to win it. If the Colts win after

456
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: a time still be a top Yeah, Jacksonville. If Jacksonville wins,

457
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: it could be a four way tie, four way tie

458
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Speaker 1: for first. Let's start to seize it over. I'm here

459
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Speaker 1: for it, Johnny. I am definitely here for starting to

460
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: seize it over with healthy players. But yeah, you know what,

461
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: when I watched the Colts and the Tipans play, it's

462
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: always so difficult, you know, and I have to if

463
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: the game is on, I can't watch the game. I

464
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: gotta watch Red Zone. Just show me. You know. The

465
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: Red Zone is great because it's it's highlights before they happen,

466
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's real time highlights. Just show me that stuff.

467
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the rest of it. Man.

468
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 1: I uh, it's just too difficult to watch because I

469
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: hate them both so much. It's like it's like two

470
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: xes fighting and arguing. You you're like, you don't really,

471
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: you just you hate them both, and you're just like, no,

472
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: but it's it's two Xes fighting and arguing and they're

473
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Speaker 1: married to really rich guys, see or something like that.

474
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Speaker 1: Because when the Texans are doing really well historically and

475
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: you have the Titans and Cults playing and it doesn't

476
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: matter to you, that's the two xes and you're like,

477
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: not my problem, Okay, not my problem. Okay, You've got

478
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: ten seconds. Panthers v Browns on a neutral field. Who

479
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: wins it? I think, Oh, that's a crazy all healthy.

480
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: Give him McCaffrey, give him jac Horne, all fully healthy.

481
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: If they have McCaffrey, I think the Panthers have a

482
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: really great shot to win that game. Yeah. I would

483
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: think so too. I you know, I would love to

484
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: see that defense match up against you get some ferocious

485
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 1: pass rushing after Darnold in a close game late. You

486
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: know he could he could Darnold the game up. But

487
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, credit to him, Johnny. You know, I want

488
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 1: to see this continue. He's the kind of guy that

489
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: you kind of root for in that way that look

490
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 1: you I hate when you give up on people just

491
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 1: because they played in New York or whatever. He and

492
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: nevill Hewett had a moment after the game like, hey,

493
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Speaker 1: we're not in New York anymore. I don't know what

494
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: they were saying. I just imagine that to be that way.

495
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Speaker 1: All right, Mark, appreciate we get back. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: and also the souther Reporter and so glad to be

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Speaker 1: with you on this Friday evening. And it's time for

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Speaker 1: our weekly deep slant Interview of the Week with our

513
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Speaker 1: good friend dep Citu And this week it's a guy

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Speaker 1: the players absolutely love. He goes by the nickname Filthy Phil.

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Speaker 1: It's Philip Lindsay with Dpcitu Depe take it away. It's

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Speaker 1: a deep slant one on one presented by Xfinity. I'm

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Speaker 1: chatting with running back Philip Lindsay. You're for Phil. How's

518
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: it been for you. I know you've never played outside

519
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: of Colorado, but you've got some games under your belt.

520
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: How have you adjusted to the locker room and just

521
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: this team and just getting back on the field healthy again. Yeah,

522
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: thanks for having me today. The locker room is great.

523
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: You know, this is the first year that I've ever

524
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: been around as many veterans as as we have here

525
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: in Houston, So it's great to see a different perspective

526
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: of things and how people go about their business and

527
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: learning from them, and just the atmosphere is just, you know, different,

528
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: which is which is a great thing because you come

529
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: in here, you handle your business, and you kind of

530
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: go home, and a majority of us have a family

531
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: at the house, you know, kids, a wife, so it's

532
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: really good. We're all in the same situation, so we

533
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: kind of understand each other a little bit different than

534
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: a locker room that's kind of young and new to

535
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: the game and happy, go lucky in a way. But

536
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: here it's kind of everybody knows what they have to

537
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: do and handling business up front and at home. So

538
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a great atmosphere, all right. So you

539
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: caught a twenty two yard touchdown pass against the Browns

540
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: and that was your first receiving touchdown since twenty eighteen,

541
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Speaker 1: your rookie year. I mean, how close to you feel

542
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: to that twenty eighteen version of yourself. I know you

543
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 1: dealt with some injuries last year, but we've seen you

544
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: throughout OTAs and training camping and you look healthy. I mean,

545
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: how do you feel? Yeah, I feel healthy and h it,

546
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: it feels good to get in the open space. Feels good.

547
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: I think that that's where my game is really good,

548
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: is when I can get open space and do some

549
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 1: explosive running and stuff, you know. So it was it

550
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: was good to feel that way again and see it,

551
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully I can build off of that.

552
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I do feel I feel a lot

553
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: healthier and stuff like that. So I'm looking forward to

554
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: It's a long season, so I'm looking forward to to

555
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: stacking stacking games and building momentum as the season goals,

556
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: you kind of you don't want to peak too fast,

557
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, and if you can peak more so towards

558
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: the middle of the season, where you know, playoff time,

559
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: that's where you want to go as a team, as

560
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: a player. So as long as we're stacking stuff and

561
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: and for myself is making little goals and little strides,

562
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: things will add up as time goes on. You've been

563
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: a part of some really fun plays this year. We

564
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: the one that we called the wildcat Ingram. Yeah, they

565
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: handoff and then the touchdown run that you had in

566
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Speaker 1: the first week. You know, what have you thought about

567
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: the creativity And I know you've talked about Tim Kelly

568
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: and the play calling he's done, but what have you

569
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: thought about some of the stuff that you are asked

570
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: to do on the field. Oh, it's definitely it makes

571
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: things fun. But also that's that's what you need to have,

572
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: those explosive plays to keep people on their toes, to

573
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: get those those touchdowns that light up the bench, things

574
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: that things that bring momentum your way. And uh and

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00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: I think that, like I've been able to be a

576
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: part of things like that now and it makes you

577
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: feel good, you know, it makes you feel good that

578
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: you're being used in more creative ways to get in

579
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: the open space to do stuff that makes you who

580
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: you are. And for me as as explosive player. So, um,

581
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see going forward what we what we

582
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: do as as as time goes on, and we got

583
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: to continue to establish things kind of kind of get

584
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: our groove and what we can do that we're going

585
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: to be rolling. So we gotta stay healthy. All right.

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00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: So I've I've heard you refer to yourself as Filthy

587
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: phil Am. I allowed to ask who gave you that nickname? Yeah? Actually,

588
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: so I was in college and uh, my my best

589
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: friend who actually plays for Cincinnati Bengals, Cheeto Bear Woozier. Uh,

590
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: that's like my right hand man, and uh, you know,

591
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: he kind of gave me that name, and it was

592
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: just more because of doing well on the field and

593
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and it's kind of stuck and ever

594
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: since the name kind of you know, just ran with it,

595
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: and you know it's something that you know, he calls

596
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: me every day, so it's something that yeah. Yeah, so

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00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: he definitely gets the credit for that. Okay. So one

598
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: of the first things I saw about you was this

599
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: ESPN feature after the work of year you were living

600
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: in your parents' basement. Correct, you were undrafted signed by

601
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: the Everyone Knows Your Story, Signed by Denver and then

602
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: you made it to the Pro Bowl, so, uh, they

603
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: you gave a tour of your parents' house and the basement.

604
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: We bet your family. Now you've got a family of

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Speaker 1: your own. So I have to I have to know,

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Speaker 1: what do you miss most about living at home? Yeah? Yeah,

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00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's just just being comfortable. I

608
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: think being comfortable knowing that you're gonna get a meal cooked,

609
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: in your laundry done every day, every single day, you know,

610
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: and then on top of that, you know, just going

611
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: home like it was high school, you know. Now you know,

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00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: it's it's nether part of my life, which you know

613
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: I love, and you know, it's about growing up now,

614
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: you know. And and for me it was you know,

615
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: it was a great for me. It was great doing

616
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: that because it got it kept me grounded at that time,

617
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: especially going into going in as undrafted because you don't

618
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: know if you're going to meet the team at that time,

619
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: and being able to be for your home state and

620
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: just know it ends and outs of the state and everything.

621
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Speaker 1: It's just it was just easy, you know, it was

622
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: easy just to to live life over there. So but

623
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Speaker 1: now it's it's uh, it's fun and being a dad

624
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: is fun and and having having your own family and responsibilities.

625
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Speaker 1: That that's that's what it is about. Yeah, I read somewhere,

626
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: I heard somewhere that your mom is a great baker. Yeah,

627
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: and she makes a lot of desserts. H Is it

628
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Speaker 1: true that she used to have to hide deserts from you? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a big I'm a big candy person. I'm a

630
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: big chocolate person, but desserts in general. So if you

631
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Speaker 1: go to my house, I got bags of candy. And

632
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: but in my son's kind of picking up on my habits, yeah,

633
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: I gotta chill chill on. You gotta hide the candy. No, definitely,

634
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: definitely so, but yeah, I could find canny anytime. And

635
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: when my mother made desserts, you know, I was the

636
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Speaker 1: first one they're eating, have to have the cookies or

637
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Speaker 1: anything else. So yeah, I heard she made something called

638
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: a magic cookie. What's what's a magic cookie? No? She

639
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: she she would make things like uh like for she hue,

640
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: like Christmas time, she made turtles fudge, and she does

641
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: cookies with oatmeal and chocolate chip and those are those

642
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: are really you know, really good. And so I haven't

643
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: had had any of her her homemade cookies and stuff

644
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: a long time actually thinking about it, that might. Yeah.

645
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: I was like, it's hard to stay a slim and

646
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: trim when you're living with mom. Yeah. Yeah, but you know,

647
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm little anyway, so it doesn't it doesn't at this time.

648
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: What about your dad? Your dad used to be a

649
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: running back in college, So did your was your dad's

650
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: running style like yours? Would you say? You guys are similar? Yeah,

651
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: very similar, very similar body types, little, we're slimmer, um,

652
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's kind of how I

653
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: got my my my running style. My uncle was the

654
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: same way. We all kind of have the same round

655
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: of body built. So uh yeah, he kind of started

656
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: it off from me. All right. So with Tim Kelly

657
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: running the offense, he talks about the hot hand. Yeah,

658
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I want to know, like, as a

659
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: running back, is it how do you look at that?

660
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: Because is it easier to get into rhythm when you've

661
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: got when you're getting all those reps? Or is it

662
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: kind of nice to sit back and watch someone else

663
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: and then you can kind of go in and see

664
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: them feel a little bit different. No, it's a it's

665
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: a two two hited sword with that, you know, it's

666
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: it's always good when you can get the reps because

667
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: over time you start to develop and get comfortable, you

668
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: start to to to see tendencies in the game, and

669
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: then you can start you can make the moves and

670
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: make a couple of risks because you're gonna get uh,

671
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: those opportunities and sometimes sitting back and and watching them,

672
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: observing and stuff and letting things play out, it's good

673
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: as well, you know, I think it's how you take it.

674
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: And uh, it's a long season. It's a long season.

675
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: And you know, when you do have talented run backs

676
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: like like we do, um, you definitely want that person

677
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: who does have a high hand to get his opportunity,

678
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: you know. And and so you just kind of you

679
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: have to be their eyes and you have to to

680
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: to do your part. And when you go in there,

681
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: try to make the best of your your your rips

682
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: and go from there because you know, everybody's gonna have

683
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: their time, and so when it's not your time, you know,

684
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: it's it's it's about observing and taking those mental reps

685
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: and doing what you can to help the team. And

686
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: when it is your time, you need to be ready.

687
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: You need to be ready, and you need to go

688
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: out there and be able to get that high hand too,

689
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: So hopefully I can get you know, start sparking that

690
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: up a little bit, you know when it's time, when

691
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: the time comes, uh, and try to get some wins,

692
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, try to try to try to be on

693
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: top of the division. So you know, that's that's our goal.

694
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: You're definitely the hot hand when it comes to scoring touchdown.

695
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: So your group is fun. I mean the running backs room.

696
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said if it wasn't just

697
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: the most entertaining, one of the most entertaining groups. So

698
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: before I let you go, I want to play a

699
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: little word association. I'm gonna say one of the running backs,

700
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: and you're gonna say the first word that comes to

701
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: mind when I say her name. Cool. Yeah, all right,

702
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: David Johnson. I'm gonna say funny because he is. He's

703
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: funny proper. You know, I would say funny and properly.

704
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: He's funny and proper. He's a proper sense of humor. Yeah,

705
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: he does that, he does that properly. Hum Okay. Scottie Phillips,

706
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: quiet like a mouse, real quiet. I know we were

707
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: doing an interview with him and Mark Ingram walked by

708
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: and called him Scotty too haughty. He started laughing, Yeah, giggles.

709
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: He likes to giggle a lot. But he is really

710
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: really quiet, all right, Rex Burkhead smooth like he's calm smooth. Uh,

711
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: really really uh, in tune with himself, in tune with

712
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: with different things, really cool to talk to, really cool. Yeah, yeah,

713
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: I can see that, um mark Ingram, I would say, goofy.

714
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: He had at a lot of energy, a lot of energy. Um.

715
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: You know, he's been around for a while, he's seen

716
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: a lot and it's you know, really good to learn

717
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: certain things things uh that you know I didn't know.

718
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: You know, he's taught me in really good to have

719
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: in the in the locker room. Energetic is a great

720
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: word for him because even after energy to two or

721
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: three hours of training camp practice, he was still smiling.

722
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he was just so himself. There's no

723
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: reason not to smile. You know, we're in a great situation,

724
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: no matter good or bad. We're in a great situation.

725
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: Um to take care of our families and to learn

726
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: about each other and just how the opportunity to be

727
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: around each other is. It's definitely a blessing, you know,

728
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: to be able to do that all right, and yourself,

729
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: I think on while I think that, I think that, like,

730
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, I can start stuff with Mark. Like me,

731
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm an instigator, so I like, I like to instigate

732
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 1: a lot of things, and I can get under mark skin.

733
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: So that's the funny thing. You know, we're like we're

734
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: like brothers, you know what I mean. Like that's the

735
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: first thing Coach DV or run back coach ass was like,

736
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: how long did we know about each you know, know

737
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: each other? And you know what's funny is we never

738
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: really knew knew each other like that other than the

739
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: football world, you know, because he was all across to

740
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: the countries why you know, I was in Denver. So

741
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: but like it's like like when we got together, it's

742
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: like we knew each other from the start. Yeah, you know,

743
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: and that's that's a great bond to have. Yeah, you

744
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: guys do certainly go along. I feel like we've known

745
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: you for a long time too. You get fun to

746
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: get to know. Always a pleasure. Philip hay stop by

747
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: any time. I appreciate you guys, haven't. I know? Mark

748
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: and I talked a lot about the running game and

749
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: the first segment and if there's something that this coaching

750
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: staff over the next few days, over the weekend, and look,

751
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: you never know when you're going to find the secret sauce.

752
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: If you will, I know. And this goes back to

753
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: my coaching days a long long time ago. I always

754
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: wanted to be a guy through the ball because as

755
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: I was a young coach, I was spending a lot

756
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: of time with coaches. One in particular, good friend of mine,

757
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: Brady Ackerman, who is now the head coach at Belleville

758
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: High School Bellevue High School in Florida, and he played

759
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: for coach Spurrier and he also then became a coach

760
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: with how Mummy, So they were we were always throwing

761
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: the ball and I just love to look at it.

762
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: I loved everything about it, and so I wanted to

763
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: do it. And then I tried to do it with

764
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: my guys when I was coaching. It just didn't happen.

765
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: And I remember we got absolutely skull drug and it

766
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 1: was bad, and I just was miserable the whole weekend.

767
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I got to find

768
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: something to do, find something to do. And as I

769
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: was just kind of looking around my office, I happened

770
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: to see Oklahoma a picture of Okahoma sooners and I

771
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: thought option, maybe this will work. Went put it in

772
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: a little bit by a little bit, but just enough

773
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: to kind of get it going. And the next week

774
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: we ran for about one hundred and seventy five yards

775
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: and the option accounted for a lot of it kept

776
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: adding more and more, and over the next couple of

777
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: years we were averaging about two hundred and eighty five

778
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: yards per game on the ground, just running it. And

779
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: it was just something. Over the weekend, you know, I

780
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: thought maybe we got something different, and something came to

781
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: mind and we went with it. Now is it that

782
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: drastic for the Texans? No, but things have got to

783
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: be fixed. So whether it's new scheme, new something, I

784
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: don't know, but they got to figure it out and

785
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: hopefully Phil Flynn is going to be a factor in

786
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: getting that thing turned around. All right, we get back.

787
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: We got some Houston Methodist minutes. It's about shoulder injuries. Man,

788
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: I know about shoulder injuries. We'll have that next right

789
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: here in Texans All acxis Exans all Axis. We got

790
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: one final short segment of this first hour of Texans

791
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: All Access. I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter,

792
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: and a guy who over the years has had shoulder issues.

793
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: Go loore. Well, that's where our Houston Methodist Minutes come

794
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: in because Mark Vannimir each and every week sits down

795
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: with one of the great doctors from Houston Methodist and

796
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: they hit on a particular topic. And today it's shoulder injuries,

797
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: sort of like the one Nico Collins suffered in Cleveland.

798
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: Let's hear Mark and one of the great doctors from

799
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: Houston Methodists right about now, it's Houston Methodist Minutes. And

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00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: joining us right now is doctor Mark la Bay from

801
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Houston Methodist. Doctor. How's it going going? Well, thanks for

802
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: having me on. Well, it's great to have you on.

803
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Let's talk shoulder injuries here. I want to start here

804
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: because they gave me some notes. Rotator cuff is the

805
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: first thing I see. But let's talk about this shoulder

806
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: separation or the shoulder popping out. We have a lot

807
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: of football vernacular here, Oh, shoulder popped out. Let's just

808
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: pop it back in. What happens when that happens? Normally,

809
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: when people are talking about the shoulder popping at you're

810
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: talking about a dislocation that means the ball actually pops

811
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: out of the sockets. And in football it's not an

812
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: uncommon thing obviously, a violent collision sports and in football

813
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: actually we get something that's relatively rare and other activities,

814
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: and that's a shoulder popping out the back. We see

815
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: that often offensive and defensive lineman. Not common to see otherwise. Now,

816
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: when that happens, did he surgery eventually to correct that perhaps?

817
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Or is it just a matter of healing whatever occurred

818
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: when the shoulder popped out? Most of the time, Actually,

819
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: that's surgical if you're going to continue to play a

820
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: collision sport like football, because the tissue that gets damaged

821
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: to wind it does pop out, doesn't generally heal itself

822
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: very well. And if you're going to continue to do

823
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: those kinds of activities, that's that's very often something surgical,

824
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: all right. Now, the rotator cuff muscles. We hear about

825
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: this for pictures for quarterbacks. What occurs when you hurt

826
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: your rotator cuff. Well, the rotator cuff is actually a

827
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: group of four muscles and tendons that help stabilize the

828
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: ball in the socket. So when those tendons get too

829
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: much strain, and it's it's not a common thing in football,

830
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: but it can be with prolonged throwing. I think Drew

831
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: Brees when he had his shoulder dislocated and tours rotator

832
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: cuff at the same time, the tendon actually tears from

833
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: the bone or gets a hole in it, and so

834
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: we're structurally trying to repair that the hole in that tendon.

835
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: That's a that's a big recovery for a for a thrower.

836
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: So for some rotator cuff injuries maybe don't need surgery.

837
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: Others you do, How does that work well? If you

838
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: don't necessarily tear the tendon from the bone and you

839
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: just strain the muscle or you get some irritation of

840
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: the tendons or tendonitis, And a lot of times that's rehab.

841
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: You know, perhaps a quarter zone shot to get it

842
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: to calm down, a lot of strengthening those muscles to

843
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: get to get to shoulder to work well and for

844
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: the pain to go away all right, and prevention of

845
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: shoulder injuries, specifically rotator cuff. Doctor yea, the biggest thing

846
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: in our throwing athletes is doing exercises ahead of time.

847
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: We see this all the times in little league baseball

848
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: players where they kind of hang around and they don't

849
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: do a lot of shoulder exercises. Then they get out

850
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: and they throw a whole bunch. Those muscles and the

851
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: muscles that stabilize the shoulder blade need time to get ready,

852
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: to get stronger, and so you're doing some you know,

853
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: rotator cuff exercises a lot of pulling exercises to strengthen

854
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: everything so that when you go, when you do all

855
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: that throwing, your shoulders ready to go. So rehab or

856
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: I should say, prehaving is the way to go to

857
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: avoid those prehabbing I like that. Doctor, thanks so much

858
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: all the time. We appreciate it. Thank you, sir, Doctor

859
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: Mark Labey of Houston Met, the official healthcare provider of

860
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, Houston Methodist leading medicine. Over the years, Man,

861
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: I have had shoulder issues. I guess it's all those

862
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: years of playing ball. But it goes to the territory.

863
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: I would think, all right, in our final hour, we're

864
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: gonna have a visit with David Johnson. I got my predictions.

865
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: But coming up next is one of my great friends

866
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: from the Houston Texans. Actually spending time with Drew he's

867
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: cheating on me. That's my good friend David Anderson with

868
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: little Where Are They Now? That's next on Texans All Access.

869
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: We got one o the books of this two hour

870
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio.

871
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, Football in a sidelwon reporter

872
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: and one of my favorite players of all time with

873
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: the Texans as a man by the name of David Anderson.

874
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: I see Danny Amadola Waring number eighty nine. They're about

875
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: the same height and build, So I always think of

876
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: DA when I think and see Danny Amon solo again. DA.

877
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: Interesting that said, David Anston was one of my favorites.

878
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: We met him in two thousand and seven when I

879
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: was working at a different radio station along with Sean Pendergas,

880
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: and he became a go to for us on so

881
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: many different levels. And if anybody ever heard that radio,

882
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: you know it was great radio. When David Anderson joined

883
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: us on the air, and he joined us on the

884
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: air tonight doing it with Drew Doherty in a where

885
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: Are They Now? Segment? Former Texans David Anderson wide receiver

886
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL for six years, five and change of

887
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: those or with the Texans, joins me, Now, where are

888
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: they now? David? You're in front of you, You're in

889
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: front of a blue shed. What's going on? Man? Where

890
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: are you now? And what are you I'm in elsagun To, California.

891
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: I live in man Beach, California, not too far from

892
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: my hometown Thousand Oaks. I run a company called Breakaway Data,

893
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: which helps athletes collect and utilize their data in performance.

894
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm a moneyball dork now, which is great.

895
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: Finished ball went to school and I've been doing this

896
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: ever since. And I think some people who just maybe

897
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: don't know you would say, oh, that's that's kind of

898
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: a weird transition. For people who have been around you,

899
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: That's not an odd transition at all. You always had

900
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: something going on upstairs in between your ears. You were

901
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: always kind of a I don't know, curious player. When

902
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: you were in the league, you kind of took an

903
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: interest in a lot of different things and did a

904
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: lot of different How did you, though, segue from the

905
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: NFL into that? Yeah, so I was always taking advantage

906
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: of the NFL. We're called BM and E programs Business

907
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: management entrepreneur programs at different graduate schools, So I did

908
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: they want to kell Og, Wharton and Stanford. And then

909
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: when I finished ball, went back to school. Uh. You know,

910
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: my mom was a little disappointed, disappointed in me that

911
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: I picked Colorado stayed over some better schools. I won't

912
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: say which ones, um, but uh so I'm back to

913
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: graduate school. Got my MBAUM focused on data science. My

914
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: dad was an engineer, UM, so I had that side

915
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: going on. I was always good at math in high school.

916
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: I was kind of the dork that was in the

917
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: math mod coped titians and whatnot. I just took a

918
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: liking to it. And then I think, more than anything,

919
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to be involved in sports. I

920
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: wanted to be involved in ball. I didn't have enough

921
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: stones to go back into the coaching world and kind

922
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: of do that whole thing. As much as I admired him,

923
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: jealous to those guys, that's always something I wasn't willing

924
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: to do to myself for my family. And then I

925
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: knew I wanted to do some form of media. So

926
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Speaker 1: I've been I've always dabbled in kind of that stuff,

927
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: but I feel like data gives me interesting kind of

928
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: storytelling aspect of the media. Media play instead of just

929
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: being a pundit and kind of saying my opinion kind

930
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: of gives me a little more based on my opinion.

931
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: So I've been doing that for a while and it's

932
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: been a success and it's been a lot of fun.

933
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: Although you might think every now and then when Danny

934
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: Amandola runs around in eighty nine that that's me, you know,

935
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: here was a roommate of mine back kind of day. No, Okay,

936
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: So that's interesting you bring that up, because my first

937
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: year working for the Texans was two thousand and nine.

938
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: It was one of your best years with the Texans.

939
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: And before you guys played the Rams in Saint Louis,

940
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: I was down on the fields some photos for a

941
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: pregame photo slide show, and I had come from Luddock.

942
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: I'd worked there for four years, so I'd covered Danny

943
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: and I covered him in the kind of the pre

944
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: draft process he was hoping he'd get drafted. I don't

945
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: know that he was necessarily thinking, hey, I'm definitely, but

946
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 1: I covered it and I covered him, gave him a

947
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: bro hug, and you were actually warmed up and you're

948
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: like those two you guys talking about and you came

949
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: over and started chit chatting with them, and it was

950
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: kind of cool to see, I think, an appreciation because

951
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: you were sort of an undersized receiver. We have a

952
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: we have a bond, you know, it's like when two

953
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: deers recognize each other in the wild. Um. Uh, we

954
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: had seen each other. I mean, I I was in

955
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: year when I met Danny for uh, it was it

956
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: was really the lockout year twenty eleven. Yeah. Um, Julian Ellman,

957
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: Danny and myself were kind of roommates or living all

958
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: in the same city. June were roommates. Um. I just

959
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: saw the work, work, work ethic of those guys, the determination. Um,

960
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: they were all about ball, you know what I mean.

961
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: I knew they had a chance. You always got to

962
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: have a little bit of luck on your side, and

963
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: they took advantage of every opportunity to given to them.

964
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: And more they earned everything that those guys got because

965
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: they certainly, you know, Danny and Julian not to prepare

966
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: those guys together, but Danny has certainly earned everything that's

967
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: come his way. So the hats off to him. He's

968
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: had a still having a great career. You know, comes

969
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: in shows up with on Tuesday scores a touchdown on Sunday.

970
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: So I'm proud of him, sitting happy to say I

971
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: know him. Yeah, it was awesome to see, and I

972
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: mean it was it was not surprising. If you know

973
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: that guy, it was not surprising. It's funny not to

974
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: make this all aout Dany Mdul because we wouldn't pay

975
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: about you. But my last little add on to it was,

976
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: I was talking with him last week and he said,

977
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: the first snap I was in the game, I knew

978
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: the ball was coming to me. And it wasn't a touchdown.

979
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: It was on the first drive and he he caught

980
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: like an eight or nine yarder, But he said he

981
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: knew the ball was coming to him just because of

982
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: what he'd seen in all that that in the background.

983
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: So I'm sure he's got a little bit of the

984
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: matrix going on in there. He's been an amazing time.

985
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: He sees what's going on. Yeah, I mean it happens

986
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: for every athlete at some point in their career. When

987
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: you've got there long enough where um, the speed of

988
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: your legs is fast enough, which where Danny is, and

989
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: the speed of game is slow, so you can take

990
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: advantage of a situation it's gotta hope that those don't

991
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: those don't foot flop. Ever. Yeah, hey, analytics, that's a

992
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: very wide ranging word. It covers a lot of different things.

993
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: What exactly are you doing analytics wise? What what does

994
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: your company do? Yeah? So um, our focus is is

995
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: helping the athlete bet first, better understand and collect their

996
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: own data. Right. I think a simple way to describe

997
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: it as mint dot com for athletes performance data. Right,

998
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: there's Apple health Kit and there's other things that that

999
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: collect your data and information. What we do is we

1000
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: help an athlete better understand how their off field performance

1001
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: affects their on field performance. Right now, Apple health Kit

1002
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: doesn't tell you about your yards, your targets, your catching percentage,

1003
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, what you value from an athlete perspective.

1004
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: So we bring that moneyball aspect to to an athlete. Right.

1005
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: For forever, it's been sold to teams, and they certainly

1006
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: take advantage of that situation, and we've helped a lot

1007
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: of teams along the way. But now I want to

1008
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: kind of pivot and focus to athletes helping them better

1009
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: understand and get more use out of their data. Because

1010
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: I think when you know, kind of like the rising

1011
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: tide raises all ships. If we can increase the data

1012
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: literacy and competency of athletes, help them use their data

1013
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: for more information, help them with their performance. And we've

1014
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: all seen like with GDPR and all this stuff, like

1015
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: your data is yours. How can we help an athlete

1016
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: get more of it and maximize it? That's our whole thesis.

1017
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, that's really cool to hear. Congratulations on

1018
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: the success and best of luck to more success down

1019
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: the line. Let's rewind it though, back to when you're

1020
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: coming out of Colorado State, highly productive receiver for the Rams.

1021
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: You get picked by the Texans. You're in one of

1022
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: the best drafts, probably the best draft in franchise history.

1023
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: What was that day like when you got selected. Did

1024
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: you think, hey, I got a chance of going there

1025
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: because of kind of the sort of Colorado State mafia

1026
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: that was happening here in Houston at the time, or

1027
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 1: what was that day like for you? So I started

1028
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: the mafia, you can call me the term soprano of

1029
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: the car Out Saint mafia that was at CSU Fort

1030
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: or on the Texans for a while, you know what,

1031
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Like you go through the process in your mind during

1032
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: draft day, and now I was picked two fifty one,

1033
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: so I had a lot of time to think and

1034
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: go through a lot of kind of things. I wasn't

1035
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: like Mario picked number one. So I remember the different

1036
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: coaches talking to me. I remember the different teams, I

1037
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: remember the different what agents had told me, what my

1038
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: agent had told me, all these different things. I'm trying

1039
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: to weigh this as draft picks, you know, come and

1040
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: go as guys that I thought or knew that I

1041
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: was much better than got picked ahead of me. You

1042
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: just I just felt this. You know, that chip on

1043
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: your shoulder grow and grow and grow, and you know,

1044
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: I was getting more frustrated, and then I remembered. So

1045
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: sixth round comes along, and the Denver Broncos called me

1046
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: and they say, hey, if you don't get picked up

1047
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: in the seventh, we're gonna bring you on as a

1048
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: free agent. And they had just taken Brandon Marshall, and

1049
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't know if that's a

1050
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: good fit for me. And then I was kind of

1051
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: looking and my agent and I got on a phone

1052
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: call and he's like, hey, here's all right. I think

1053
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: if three teams are if you don't get picked up.

1054
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: They're all offering good deals. Da da da da. I

1055
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: was like all right, so um so then the phone

1056
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: rings and I thought it was going to be an

1057
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: agent and who who was going to be And it

1058
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: was coach Kubiak and he's like, hey, this is Kob's

1059
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: You're gonna pick you up here in seventh round. I

1060
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: was like, all right, And I remember when I finished

1061
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 1: my forty, like at that time, I like it clicked

1062
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: for me. At that time I finished my forty, Kobe

1063
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: told me, hey, if you're available light in the draft,

1064
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick you up. Now. They didn't have a

1065
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: sixth round. They either didn't have a fifth round pick

1066
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: or a sixth round pick. I don't remember which one

1067
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: it was because Wally Lundie I think, I don't know

1068
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: if Wally Willing was fifth or sixth um but we

1069
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: went Mario Williams, Damiko Ryan's, Eric Winston, Chester Pitts, um

1070
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,959
Speaker 1: Owen Daniels, Wally Lundi and myself and Chester was Chester

1071
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: was as he was good. He was a good boy.

1072
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,479
Speaker 1: He was off to a great start and broke broke

1073
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: his leg. But yeah, um but anyway, so like I

1074
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: remember getting picked up and then immediately thinking like, all right,

1075
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: here we go. And then the phone hung up. And

1076
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: then the next phone call I got was Joe. Joe

1077
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: Marcian was like, you're ready to play special teams. You're here,

1078
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: run now, I'm kicking off and cost however, and I

1079
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: was like, no, I want to catch passes, touchdowns. But

1080
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: of course when you're drafted, you're like, yeah, I'll do

1081
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: whatever it needs, coach and uh. And you quickly learn

1082
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: when you get to the NFL, you know what I mean,

1083
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: I think what's crazy is but you get drafted. At

1084
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: least that's how it was back then. The dates were

1085
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: a little different. Now you get drafted and then like

1086
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: two weeks later your helmets on practicing. Yeah, and you

1087
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: quickly realize how little you know about football, right, and

1088
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: that like you're in you're with a group of grown

1089
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: men who've been doing this for a profession, and like

1090
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: you are just following what the script says or whatever,

1091
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: and it doesn't look like that once, you know, once,

1092
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: once the humans are actually running around and you're like, well,

1093
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: all the dots on the page are the same size,

1094
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: except that guy's six seven, two ninety pounds and this

1095
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: guy's like the fastest human I've ever seen in my life.

1096
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: His dot moost after than mine. So, um, you got

1097
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: to find out who you are and find your fit

1098
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: pretty quickly, otherwise you'll find your way out of locker room. Yeah,

1099
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: and a lot of noble guys, thousands of them over

1100
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: the years, have not survived that may you know, like

1101
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: they're they're gone or that summer. Yeah, you stuck around

1102
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: in the end and you were an active on the

1103
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: active roster through six years. I mean you were there

1104
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: at a time too that was very very It was

1105
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: a turning point in franchise history because they never won.

1106
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: You get there that first year is tough, but then

1107
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: next year or the year after you get to five hundred,

1108
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: which that was a big deal. Year after that, you

1109
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: guys win the chance and had a chance. Yeah, when

1110
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: you walk off the field that day, you still are

1111
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt, depending on what happened later in

1112
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: the day. That didn't happen, but yeah, you were. You

1113
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: were part of a transition there, Texans wise. What was

1114
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: that like seeing them kind of turn a little bit

1115
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: of a corner so to speak. You know what it was?

1116
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: Looking back at it, it's, uh, hindsight, you know you

1117
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: wish you had a little more of that when you're

1118
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: you're playing in and whatnot. Like, I don't think any

1119
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: of us knew we were part of that, right, You

1120
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: train your and your oute and you always think you

1121
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: got a chance. Um, you put better players on your team,

1122
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: and you fee you're like, you know, this might be

1123
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: another winner too, but you know everyone does that, so um,

1124
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: you quickly realize when you step out there that every

1125
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: Sunday it's it's gonna be tough. I think what really

1126
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: was really hard for us was to win those really

1127
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: close games. When you follow the NFL, and it doesn't

1128
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: matter who it is, you either consistently win or consistently

1129
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: lose those games that come down to a field goal

1130
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter or possession here or there. And

1131
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: for a while, we couldn't get over that hump. And

1132
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: we got over to enough to be eight in eight,

1133
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: nine to seven, I think, you know, like you mentioned,

1134
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: I think we went eight and eight like two two

1135
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: of those years, right, but we weren't getting over that

1136
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: hump of of of winning those really close games consistently.

1137
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: You look at the elite teams when you roll off,

1138
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, six seven, eight wins in a row. They're

1139
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: they're winning three of those games where a touchdown or

1140
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: less and it's probably coming down to the last drive. Yeah,

1141
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: And so I think it took us a while to

1142
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: get over that and figure that out and just how

1143
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: meaningful every possession is in the NFL. And you know,

1144
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: that took some maturity, and it took it took the

1145
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room growing up and growing up

1146
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: with each other and realizing that the guy next year

1147
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: has been through this situation and that was just something

1148
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,479
Speaker 1: it took us a while to do. I also didn't

1149
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: realize how knew the Texans were until I came back

1150
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: to California my first and second year, you know, like

1151
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: even my second year in the NFL, which would have

1152
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: been two thousand and eight, and the Texans would have

1153
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: run around for six years at that point. I'd tell,

1154
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, friends or whatever. I'd be at a restaurant

1155
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: to be like, what team do you play for? I

1156
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: be like that, oh, the Texans and they'd be like, oh, yeah,

1157
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: you guys beat USC and the Rose Bowl. I'm like, no,

1158
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: that's University of Texas and then like and they'd be like,

1159
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: because are a real NFL team. I'd be like, oh, wow,

1160
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: like we have you know. I mean, it's different when

1161
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I go to play for the Steelers

1162
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: and the teams had this tradition for you know, fifty

1163
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: sixty years. The Texans are getting there, you know what

1164
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean, but they're no longer a team that people

1165
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: don't know of a recognize were we were. You're right,

1166
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: going through that kind of like team you almost like

1167
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't team because we're around that long yet. But

1168
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: it is those teenager years where you're trying to find

1169
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: your identity who saw as an organization and at a

1170
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: personal level, you just discussed how you get out there

1171
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: for the first time, and you're you've kind of got

1172
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: wide eyes. When did you think, hey, I belonged here

1173
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: or I can hang there? Did you ever not think that?

1174
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: What was that like for you? Was there a moment

1175
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: that made that happen? I tell you I was confused

1176
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: my second year. I got cut my second year. I

1177
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: thought I thought I knew my second year, and I

1178
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: got cut and then I immediately got brought back uh

1179
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: that that second year. Um, and so that's when that

1180
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: set me back about a year. Even my third year

1181
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: in training camp, I was announced as the third receiver

1182
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: and that I was going to be taking all the

1183
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: slot roles. It felt like it was something that I

1184
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: was constantly fighting to hold on too. And I think that, um,

1185
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: that just reminded me how tough it was to stay

1186
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I can't say only in games

1187
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: that I feel comfortable, right Like, I felt like every practice,

1188
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: every every training camp, I was fighting for a spot.

1189
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: And I don't think that that's not everyone, you know

1190
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's but that is for about forty

1191
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: three of the fifty three guys on a roster, right

1192
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: everyone's you know, there's about ten, maybe fifteen guys that

1193
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: are confident enough that even if they have a decent

1194
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: training camp, they're going to be starting. That was never

1195
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: an option for me. I had to have a lights

1196
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: out training camp. I had to be there every day.

1197
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: I had to show up at practice and perform. And

1198
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: I think that's something that has definitely helped me out

1199
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: as I transition out of sports, because I didn't have

1200
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: to be like that at Colorade of State. I certainly

1201
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: didn't have to be like that at high school. I

1202
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: could not practice four out of five days in high

1203
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: school and show up and have four touchdowns same probably

1204
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: a colorade of state. But that wasn't That wasn't who

1205
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: I was in the NFL. I wasn't Andre Johnson who

1206
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: could take, you know, Wednesday Thursday off practice, go through

1207
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: the walkthrough and then still come out and have an

1208
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: amazing catch against the Dolphins and beat them in overtime

1209
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: or something like that. So um, kind of like what

1210
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: I mentioned, you quickly learned who you are in the NFL,

1211
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: and that wasn't who I was. I did get comfortable

1212
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: in games I can't remember like a kind of like

1213
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: like I was mentioned about Amendola Matrix moment against the Seahawks,

1214
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: um that in two thousand and nine year where I

1215
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: had a choice route. I knew he was inside leverage,

1216
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: but he would fall for the southside move. Matt and

1217
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: I Matt show when I were on the same page.

1218
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: I was patient he fell for the move. Boom got inside,

1219
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: had like a nice thirty five yard game and I

1220
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: was like, ah, there it is and I kind of

1221
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: felt my felt my feet get under me a little bit.

1222
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: So it happens, but it certainly wasn't like, you know,

1223
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: not never got to Tom Brady status where it's uh,

1224
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: just walking around standing in the pocket laugh out there. Yeah,

1225
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: you just bring up that matrix play that you had.

1226
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: Was that that's not? Also your highlight is like, what's

1227
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: the your most favorite memory you know, on the field

1228
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: in a game with the Texans? Is it? Ah, you

1229
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: have one or they many? Or you know, I think

1230
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: I had many. I didn't really have. Um, you know,

1231
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: I had some pretty memorable touchdowns. Obviously, I have some

1232
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: silly Conan dance and stuff like that was gonna come up. Yeah,

1233
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask about that. It always comes up.

1234
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: I always tell people I was planning on scoring a

1235
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: lot more touchdown so I would have been drowned out

1236
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: and YouTube was just coming around. Sure, I wasn't sure

1237
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: it ended up on the YouTube, but I'm fine with that.

1238
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: The you know what. It was funny I got cut

1239
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: before we actually made the playoffs. I wasn't in the

1240
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: locker room. We made that playoff team. But the most

1241
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: memorable game and team, whoever part of it, was when

1242
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: we went into Green Bay. It was December, it was

1243
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: probably negative three and I was part of that last

1244
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: drive where Chris Brown hit the game winning field goal

1245
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: and never forget walking into the huddle and everyone was

1246
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of wide eyed, and I look at Owen Daniels

1247
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, who wants to be a hero,

1248
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: And it was like, I'm like, dude, we have a

1249
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: chance to like beat Green Bay at Green Bay and

1250
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: minus two degree weather, like this hasn't happened before, and

1251
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: we did it, and that locker room was special. It

1252
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: felt like I felt like we'd actually accomplished something that

1253
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: hadn't been done in franchise history before. Yeah. All right,

1254
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: you're back in southern California. You're in one of the

1255
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: greatest spots in the world, Manhattan Beach. It's an awesome

1256
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: place to visit, also place to live, I'm sure if

1257
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: you're living there. Um, what do you miss most though

1258
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: about the city of Houston from your time here because

1259
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: you were here for a bit? Yeah, um, well I

1260
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: can start with the restaurants. Um, Los Angeles has good restaurants,

1261
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: but not in the kind of like spacing that that

1262
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: Houston has. Um, I missed the space. Yeah. Yeah, there's

1263
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: a lot of beach towns are great. But my neighbor

1264
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: lives about this far away from more I do. Um,

1265
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: and the the traffic is way worse out here than

1266
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: it is out there. Um, the weather is way better

1267
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: here than it is out there. So I don't miss

1268
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: the weather, I'll tell you. Like the the people of Houston,

1269
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: I think, Um, when I was there, it seemed like

1270
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: there was this kind of transition, Katrina transition. There was

1271
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: a lot of more Southern kind of New Orleans flavor

1272
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: that came into Houston, and it was fun to see

1273
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: that city kind of evolved into the flavor that it

1274
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: is because it's a lot different than any other city

1275
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: in Texas, and that like it's it's nothing like Dallas.

1276
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of got a little bit of Austin in there.

1277
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: And because it's got the got the uniqueness, and it's

1278
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: got the people have their own, their own colorful behavior.

1279
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: But it has a lot more of kind of that

1280
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: Southern kind of draw that comes into people's kind of

1281
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: language and whatnot. And so I do miss that. You know,

1282
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: in Californians, we have our own It's not something I

1283
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: hear because I probably sound like that, but I do miss.

1284
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: I do miss Texans in general, and I do think

1285
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: what was fun about Texans is that, like they have

1286
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: a natural love and hate relationships with Californians, right, We're

1287
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: like the only them in New York maybe Florida people too,

1288
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: are the only states that will just argue in terms

1289
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: of a state which is better. It's not like anyone

1290
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: from Colorado's arguing with Texas and who's better. But Californians

1291
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: can argue with Texas. And I always enjoyed that kind

1292
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: of conversation and whatnot. And so yeah, i'd say those

1293
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: are up there as the things I miss the most. Yeah. Well,

1294
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I love Texas. I'm from here. I'm a Houstonian.

1295
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: But when the Texans played the chart here was a

1296
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, I went and hung out with

1297
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: a buddy who's now living in California, and we met

1298
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: in the middle in Manhattan Beach, and I was like,

1299
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: I could live here, So uh yeah, I see why

1300
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: you're there. Makes it easy. No stunner there. Hey, how

1301
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: about former Texans teammates you keep I imagine you still

1302
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: keep in touch with a few of them, don't you. Yeah,

1303
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: bunch Um still really close with Eric Winston, really close

1304
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: to Loan Daniels. Um talked pretty frequently with Andre Aaron

1305
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: Foster keep up with him obviously. Joel Jeson, Mike Brizel

1306
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: from my college. Joel Jason just made it into the

1307
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: Colorado State Hall of Fame. So for Joel, Um, that

1308
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: was that was a big accomplishment for him. Um on

1309
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. Demiko, you know what, Okay,

1310
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: So I always tell this funny story about my first year.

1311
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell it really fast. Um my rookie year. Uh.

1312
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: We were sitting around July twenty eight. We're sitting around

1313
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: it's like this after the second day at camp, and

1314
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: Coach Kubiak says, hey, you guys, we got an announcement

1315
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: at someone's birthday here. We're really excited about him. He's

1316
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: been really contributing. We brought him in this year. We

1317
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: know he's gonna kick in. And I was like thinking, like,

1318
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: brought me in this year. It's my birthday, July twenty eighth.

1319
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: I guess he's talking about me really gonna kill He's

1320
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna kill it, blah blah blah. He's gonna start for us,

1321
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna dominate blah blah. Everybody give it up for

1322
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver and so Weaver. Everyone claps for Weaver and

1323
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: then someone I think it was Cooper or you know,

1324
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Cooper comes up, or maybe it was Wiley comes up,

1325
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: whispers in Kubiak's ear, and he goes, oh, helld on,

1326
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: we got one more birthday. And I was like, okay,

1327
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna get to me. And he's like, uh, we

1328
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: drafted this guy, you know, we we think the world

1329
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: of him. And I was like, oh, he's giving me

1330
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: all these compliments. You know he's out here, you know,

1331
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: killing it, blah blah blah. I think he's gonna be

1332
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: a starter, he's gonna be a leader for this team.

1333
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: Data everyone give it up for Demiko Ryans. And so

1334
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: to me that everyone, I'm like, holy crap, Anthony Weaver,

1335
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans. And then they didn't didn't shout out for

1336
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: my birthday. The seventh round pick gets no love. But

1337
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: it was a big bonding moment. So every year I

1338
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: text Weaver and Demiko happy birthday and then they wait

1339
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: like a day to send it back to me, because

1340
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: it was always a joke that like Kubiak forgot the

1341
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: seventh rounder's birthday. But um so about with Weaver, um Damiko.

1342
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: Um you know Tanovic who played for US, who's now

1343
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: offensive line coach in Green Bay. I talked to him

1344
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: every now and then. Um, remember Von Hutchins played for

1345
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: US for quarterback out from the Raiders. I talked with

1346
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: Van here and there. Um let's see, I don't know,

1347
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, sprinkled in and out there and then you mingled.

1348
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: You always mingled well, at least as a as an observe.

1349
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: He always mingled well with just about everybody in the

1350
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: locker room. You're you kind of talked with, because it's

1351
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: not always like that, you know, you're no kind of

1352
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: Some people are more to themselves, and you, uh, you

1353
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: were good about that. I always remember it seemed like

1354
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: you always had a really good relationship too with Jacobe Jones,

1355
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: who I contend is a is a genius in the

1356
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: sense of he could go into a party that you're throwing.

1357
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: He'd go into a party that I'm throwing. He'd go

1358
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: into a party that this guy off to the side

1359
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: is he's working on the computer right here, that he's throwing,

1360
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: and he would be the life of those any of

1361
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: those parties matter, if your grandmother's party, he would be

1362
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: the life of any party he walked into that t

1363
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: Isn't that an accurate statement when you say we were

1364
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: both chameleons. I think he is definitely more of a

1365
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: life for a party as well as well as I will.

1366
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: I will make him the life of the party. I'm

1367
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: a promoter, um, but I could I fit in those situations.

1368
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: I think that's why we both had a lot of

1369
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: friends throughout the locker room and hung out and got

1370
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: along well, even though we were oftentimes competing for you know,

1371
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: competing for passes and competing for a spot on the roster. Um. He's, yeah,

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01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: I talked with Jacoby here and there. I'd spoken with

1373
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: him in a while, but yeah, he is uh in

1374
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: a similar way. I'll never forget. So he came and

1375
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: he was the only black guy at a party one time,

1376
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: and he was like, I'm perfectly fine, blah blah blah,

1377
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,479
Speaker 1: and we went and he killed it. Just like you mentioned,

1378
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: he was the life of the party. And then I

1379
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: went to like a receiver defensive line party and I

1380
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: was only white, only white dude, and Jacoby and Andre

1381
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: like he'll be fine, don't leave him, he'll be He'll mingle,

1382
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: and so like I you know, I mean, there was

1383
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: always yea worry about your teammates kind of every now

1384
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: and then, because the real world is not like a

1385
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: locker room, where like it's a safe place to communicate.

1386
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: The locker room is a safe place to communicate, to

1387
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: be yourself, to say things you wouldn't otherwise say. And

1388
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: some people are scared of that when they get in

1389
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: the real world. But Jacoby and I and there's certainly

1390
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: a lot of others that can kind of socialize in

1391
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: any situation. But yeah, I agree with Jacoby. Jacoby couldn't

1392
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: be invited to my grandmother grandmother's ninety seven birthday and

1393
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: he'd kill it. Yep, he sure would. Man, that was

1394
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: a great walk down memory lay with our where Are

1395
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: They Now? Segment with David Anderson. Oh miss that guy, Man,

1396
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: I miss that guy, But I appreciate Drew for catching

1397
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: up with him. All Right, we get back. We're gonna

1398
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: have my predictions straight up and against the spread and

1399
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: maybe mix in a couple of college ones as well.

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01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: Next on Texans All Access, Sin's All Access, Sin's All Access.

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01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: All right, All right, here we go. It's my favorite

1402
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: segment of the week. It's time to get my prediction

1403
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: straight up against the spread on the board, and when

1404
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: I throw on a couple of college predictions because there's

1405
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: a massive game in Arlington between former Southwest Conference foes

1406
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: and two ranked teams, the Hogs and the Aggies. We'll

1407
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: do that in a little bit. So let's do this.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm John Harris football on a sideline

1409
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: reporter for your Houston Texans and also owner and proprietor

1410
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: of football takeover dot Com. I say it this way.

1411
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Speaker 1: Left brain Texans, right brain college football, left brain Texans,

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01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: Houston Texas dot Com, right brain football takeover dot Com

1413
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: for all my college stuff. That's they We all got

1414
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: left and right brain. It's just football and football. It's

1415
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: basically how it goes. Okay, let's do these predictions. But

1416
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Speaker 1: I need my music and there it is. All right.

1417
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: Let's go to Buffalo, the next opponent of your Texans

1418
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: taking on the Washington football team. Buffalo is a seven

1419
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: point favorite. We're gonna go with the Bills here, maybe

1420
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: getting on a little bit of a roll before the

1421
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: Texans hit up there on October second. I think Buffalo

1422
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: is gonna win that thing by ten. I don't think

1423
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: Washington scores much. Taylor Heineke runs into a little bit

1424
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: of resistance even though they're coming off the mini by

1425
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: and a longer rest. I think the Bills got the

1426
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: win last week down in Miami. They'll get to win

1427
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: against Washington. The Bears and the Browns both teams one

1428
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: and one. Cleveland at home is a seven and a

1429
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: half point favorite. Justin Fields will start for the Bears

1430
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: and that will get the Bears inside the seven and

1431
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: a half the Browns win. Let's go twenty four and

1432
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: nineteen as the Browns get to win, move to two

1433
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 1: and one, but the Bears get to cover with Justin

1434
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: Fields as the starting quarterback. The Ravens coming off in

1435
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: a huge Sunday night win over the Kansas City Chiefs.

1436
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: We're taking out the Detroit Lions in Detroit Baltimore Favored

1437
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: by seven and a half. I don't love the hook.

1438
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: The Lions have shown some moments. There have been some

1439
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: moments where the Lions have played very, very well. They're

1440
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: Benson moments where the Lions are. If you could combine

1441
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: their good moments in one game and bad moments in

1442
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: the other, they would have an upset win over the

1443
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: Niners or the Packers, and they would have a loss

1444
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: to the Niners and the Packers. But they didn't do

1445
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,879
Speaker 1: it all one game, so they're oh and two, Ravens

1446
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: win and the Lions cover. I think this is gonna

1447
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: get inside the seven and a half. Let's take the

1448
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: Ravens win by seven over the Lions in Detroit. The

1449
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: Colts and the Titans AFC South. Baby don't know if

1450
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is gonna play. He's back at practice. He's

1451
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: questionable for this game. I don't think it matters. I

1452
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: think the Titans win over Seattle will kind of get

1453
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: them kickstarted. The Titans our favorite at five and a half.

1454
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: Titans are gonna win this thing, buy a touchdown and

1455
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: beat the Indianapolis Colts regardless of who plays quarterback. And

1456
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: then I'll protect me because I think it ultimately could

1457
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: be Bret Hunley or Jacobison. So let's go with Titans

1458
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 1: to win by more than five and a half. The

1459
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: Chargers taking on the Chiefs one and one versus one

1460
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: and one. It's in Kansas City, justin Herbert versus Patrick Mahomes.

1461
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs bounce back at home. This is

1462
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: gonna be more than seven. It's gonna take the o over.

1463
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: I think it charges. The Chiefs will put up some points,

1464
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: but in the end, I'm guessing like forty two thirty

1465
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: one Chiefs. That's definitely hitting you over and it's a

1466
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: cover for the Chiefs. The Saints and the Patriots Mac

1467
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: Jones v. Jamis Winston. The Patriots are favored by three

1468
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: only because they're at home. This is sort of that's

1469
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: sort of. It is a pick them, basically, but I'm

1470
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Patriots at home. The defense is

1471
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: playing pretty well. I think the defense will stey me

1472
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: anything the Saints trying to do offensively, although the Saints

1473
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: can't be worse offensively than they were against the Panthers

1474
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 1: a week before that said Patriots low scoring twenty one, No, no,

1475
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: not even seventeen thirteen. They'll cover the three and win

1476
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: out right. Two and two teams, the Falcons and the

1477
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: Giants are playing in the Meadowlands. The Giants a gut

1478
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: punch on Thursday night last Thursday. The Giants are favored

1479
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: by three. I'm gonna take the Giants to win this thing.

1480
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: Three seems about right, But because I'm feeling sessay, I'm

1481
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: going with the Giants to win that thing by more

1482
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: than three. Giants at home moved to one to two

1483
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: Falcons fall to oh and three as Arthur Smith, still

1484
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: looking for his first win in the nfl AFC North Battle.

1485
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: Bengals taken on Steelers. Steelers are only favored by three

1486
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: in this one, which a little odd. Maybe there's a

1487
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: little bit of a movement in relation to last week's

1488
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 1: loss to the Raiders, but I think of Steelers bounce back.

1489
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: They moved to two and one. They win this thing

1490
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: by a touchdown or more. Steelers cover the three, beat

1491
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals outright. The Codinals at two and oh go

1492
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: to take on the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now this is the

1493
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 1: East Coast game. Negative body clock. Arizona's favored by seven

1494
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: and a half. I think they worked at Jaguars. This

1495
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: feels thirty one twenty one at a minimum, could be

1496
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: thirty eight fourteen sort of thing. But I think the

1497
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to score all day long. De Hop's questionable,

1498
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 1: but that's not surprising. I think he'll play. He always plays.

1499
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: So Cardinals to win and win big. Another in two

1500
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: verses two and oh, this time the other two no

1501
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: teams at home. The Denver Broncos take on the New

1502
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 1: York Jets. Denver's favored by ten and a half. I

1503
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: believe this is Denver's first home game and they're coming

1504
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: back with a two no record. They're gonna be geeked

1505
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: ups afternoon game. I think the Broncos win this thing

1506
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,560
Speaker 1: by a couple of touchdowns. They frustrate Zach Wilson. I

1507
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: do think in the second half Zach Wilson will make

1508
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: a few plays. But in the end, the Broncos too rich,

1509
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: too good. They get to win, and they're gonna get

1510
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: that cover of the ten and a half Raiders Dolphins

1511
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. It's a rematch of last year's late

1512
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: season game where Fitz team made that great throw to

1513
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 1: get the Dolphins a crazy win. This thing gona happened,

1514
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: not this time. Las Vegas favored by three and a

1515
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 1: half to win this by touchdown. Dolphins will fall to

1516
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: one to two and the Raiders will move to three

1517
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: and oh the Bucks taking on the Ramps. It's the

1518
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: game of the day. Bucks only favored by one. I

1519
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: think got some mistake. I think the Bucks are the

1520
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: better team. Sorry, this is in La. The Bucks only

1521
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: favorite one. It doesn't matter in La or not. I'm

1522
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: taking the Bucks to win that thing out right and

1523
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: they'll cover that one in doing it. Seahawks go to

1524
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Seahawks was struggled last week in the second

1525
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: half to the Titans. Vikings had just struggled period sales.

1526
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: Favor by two. I'm taking the Seahawks to win the

1527
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: Vikings to move to Owen three. And then at Sunday

1528
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: night the Packers the Niners Stamps just go favored by three.

1529
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: The Packers make it close, but the forty nine Ers

1530
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: are going to get the win and cover the three

1531
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers is stymied yet again. And then the

1532
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 1: world of college football, the Hogs the Aggies in Jerry

1533
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: World and favored by five and a half. And I

1534
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: think it's time for the Aggies to hit their stride

1535
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: and get a big w over a very physical and

1536
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: athletic Arkansas team. This will be A and M's best

1537
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: win to date when they get it. On Saturday games

1538
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: at two thirty in Arlington. All right, we get back.

1539
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: How about a little David Johnson doing Jews dozen right

1540
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: here in Texas All Access. I am calling all my

1541
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: Houston area teachers out there. You want to bring a

1542
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: little Texas football to your classroom? That sign up for

1543
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Speaker 1: Toros Matris presented by Conago Phillips. Toros Matris is a

1544
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,240
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1545
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,080
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1546
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: Texas dot com slash Toros Matros to learn more. And

1547
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: one of Toro's really good friends is our next guest

1548
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: and our last guest of the week, and that is

1549
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 1: David Johnson. And each every Friday, I give Drew Dorty

1550
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: the final word, and this case I'm given the final

1551
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: word through his own dozen. It's Jews dozen with David Johnson.

1552
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: Drew take it away. First things first, you're a triplet. Yes.

1553
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: How often do you keep in touch with your other

1554
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: two siblings? Oh? Quite often? You know, during the season,

1555
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: it's a lot tougher, but an offseason a lot more

1556
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: daily basis, weekly basis, We're probably weekly, yeah, because you know,

1557
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: like I said, I give they're busy working and taking

1558
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: care of their family. And you were never able to

1559
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: pull off the like the twin gags on people. It's

1560
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: a little tough because they're girls. Yeah, they're girls. So

1561
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: did they ever try and pull that the sort of

1562
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: not too much. They were the same clothes, like they

1563
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: both were matching clothes, but not too much. Yeah, you know,

1564
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: justin mccraie's offensive Lineman, he has a twin brother, and

1565
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: he said he and his twin brother would pull that

1566
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, but then their mom found out about

1567
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: it when they were in fourth grade, and from then

1568
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: on they had to be in the same classroom because

1569
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: they had been switching classroom. So I thought that was

1570
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: kind of funny, and I asked you this. I have twins.

1571
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: My wife and I had twins, or you know, a

1572
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: boy and a girl, and they're eight years old now,

1573
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: so it's it always interests me in multiples, so very

1574
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 1: cool to hear. What are your favorite nicknames for me

1575
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: that people give me? Yes, I don't have too many.

1576
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: Um DJ is obviously a common one as an elementary kid.

1577
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't even want to say one was like D

1578
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: smiles smile a lot because you're a happy young guy. Right. Yeah,

1579
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: I had rolling runner. I was fast. I was pretty fast. Yeah,

1580
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: I think I still am. Uh so growing up I

1581
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: had that one. Other than that, I didn't have too many.

1582
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: How much did you like track and field? I know

1583
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 1: you ran it, but how much would you like being

1584
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: at a track meet when you're not running, then you're

1585
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: just kind of hanging out. I'm talking like in high

1586
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: school college. Yeah, in high school, that's that was probably

1587
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: the best part of track. You only run four due

1588
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: four events and they not they might not all be

1589
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: running at some field events. So that was the best part.

1590
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 1: Is just being able to socialize with friends, um and

1591
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: hanging out. And honestly, like a hundred meters is like

1592
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: eleven seconds ten seconds, so you do all that warming

1593
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 1: up and stuff for eleven seconds. And I loved the

1594
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: four hundred, so, uh, four by four and open four

1595
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: hundred was my favorite race. But track, honestly was probably

1596
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: one of my favorite sports just for that reason. We

1597
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: got to socialize and hang out with friends a lot more.

1598
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: There's something and if there's something about a big trap meet,

1599
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 1: track me too. In that downtime at a track meet, Like,

1600
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: what's the best part of it besides socializing You say,

1601
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: socializing with friends, but there's a lot of different ways

1602
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: to do that. I ran a track I was a

1603
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 1: distance guy, but knowing what went down, like there's always

1604
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: some weird thing going on a track meet when you're

1605
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: not running, right, Oh yeah, there's always usually we go

1606
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: eat someone's eating some weird because that's their superstition. So, like,

1607
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: Drake Relays is huge, and yeah, yeah, it's one of

1608
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: the biggest track meets in the nation exactly. So when

1609
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,839
Speaker 1: we got when we did that, one of the coolest

1610
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: things is seeing obviously a professional in college athletes and

1611
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: then seeing how they warm up and seeing how fast

1612
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: they are in person. Yeah, and then another thing we

1613
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: always like to do is get outside the stadium and

1614
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: go and like get shirts and Drake Relays shirts. But

1615
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: probably the funniest thing is just what people would eat.

1616
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 1: Like we had one guy he would go to subway.

1617
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: We go to subway and instead of ordering a normal stub,

1618
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 1: he would get a basically a cheese, a grilled cheese.

1619
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 1: But then they would charge him as a normal subway

1620
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: Why would you do that? Why don't you just go

1621
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: like somewhere else and get a grilled cheese. But he

1622
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 1: would literally just get cheese and bread. Did it pay

1623
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: off for this guy? He was He was pretty good.

1624
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: He was he was more of a mid distance guy.

1625
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 1: And uh, we just never understood why he didn't eat

1626
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 1: any you have any other child choices because they're gonna

1627
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: charge the same Yeah, And so he would do that.

1628
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: But we always you know, did jokes. We had a

1629
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: lot of like hiding people's you know, spikes until right before,

1630
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: or hiding the warm ups if it was a cold

1631
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: meat and there's lots of them in Iowa. Oh yeah, yeah,

1632
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: oh it's cold by I mean it's called the first

1633
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: half of the track track meat track season. So we

1634
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: did a lot of, you know, just funny stuff, just

1635
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 1: trying to entertain ourselves in between verses. Who So was

1636
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: your all time favorite track athlete Jeremy Warner. I probably

1637
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: say Jeremy Warning just because, like I said, I was

1638
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: a four hundred guy and he was kind of when

1639
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: he was huge. I was about my age range when

1640
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: I was a kid and watching him. Michael Johnson obviously

1641
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: was huge, but he was like, yeah, I was too

1642
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: young probably kind of for him. So I would probably

1643
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 1: say Jeremy Warrener him with the shades and the chain

1644
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: running and stuff was pretty cool. Jeremy Warner could have

1645
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: been a hell of a football player. Hell of a

1646
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: football I covered he played high school football and I

1647
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: covered high a playoff game. Is he played at Arlington

1648
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: Lamar and I used to work up in Dallas and

1649
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: it was two thousand. So the follow two thousand I

1650
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: covered a game and they had like a I don't

1651
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: know what offense it was, but they ran the ball

1652
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: and they had a good quarterbacker ran the ball. But

1653
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: two times three times that game he pulled up and

1654
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: he threw it to a guy who was faster than

1655
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: everybody on the field, and it was Jeremy Warren. But

1656
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: he went and ran a Baylor. But he could have

1657
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 1: played some football, man like he was good to see that,

1658
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: yeah and stuff. Absolutely, yeah, he could, I think, and

1659
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: I think there probably was interest. But I think fairly

1660
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: early on he said I'm gonna I'm running track. I

1661
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 1: want to go to the Olympics, and he did and

1662
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: he paid off for him. I think he had their

1663
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: record for quite a minute of time until. Yeah, it's

1664
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: amazing that Jeremy Warren that I always yeah, whenever his

1665
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: name comes up, and it doesn't come up often, I

1666
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: was like, I'm like, I covered that guy, I saw

1667
01:19:55,720 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: him play, yeah football, Tell me about a food that

1668
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: is overrated. Ooh, I'm a lot of people are gonna

1669
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 1: hate me for this. No, this is your opinion. This

1670
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: is your opinion. You can not a big Mexican eating

1671
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: Mexican category. Yeah, I'm not a big I don't know

1672
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: if it's the spices that don't say well with me,

1673
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: but I don't eat you know, a lot of like

1674
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people love Chipotle. I just I'm not

1675
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: a big not for you big. But oh, I mean

1676
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: we're in Iowa, and you know, there's only like one

1677
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: good restaurant in the whole state of Iya. So Chipole

1678
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: was like two hours away, and guys would literally drive, yeah,

1679
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: two hours to go to Chipotle really for that meal,

1680
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: and then drive two hours back to our college town.

1681
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: So I was I was like, what what the point?

1682
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: And then I tried it when I got into the

1683
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 1: pros in Arizona, and I was like, I don't see it,

1684
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 1: but and everyone will. We're gonna kill me for it. Yeah, yeah,

1685
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: that's interesting, you say Mexican food. Dannie Amdola was sitting

1686
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 1: where you're sitting right now. Last week he said, shrimp,

1687
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: what do you think about? Seafood is the best? But

1688
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: it's his opinion, see opinion, Well, coming from Iowa, I

1689
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: guess I didn't eat a lot of seafood. And then

1690
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: when I first had it, I kind of like binged it.

1691
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: And so I love seafood. That's like one of the things.

1692
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: And now I'm used on oysters right now. I'm telling

1693
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: you like raw oysters, no cooked cooked, ok yeah, chargrills,

1694
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: I would. We went to an away game and we

1695
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 1: went to Maryland, and after we played the Baltimore we

1696
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: had they gave us charboyd oysters, and I swear I

1697
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 1: ate probably like thirty of them. Sure, and they're so small,

1698
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, they're small, and they're exactly perfect. So see, Danny,

1699
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: he's wrong for that one. That was that's a terrible

1700
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: overrated food. What's the best meal that you were able

1701
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: to cook? Oh, then I'm able to I'm I'm a

1702
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: good grill. So I go gril. I'll grow burgers, grilled chicken.

1703
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: I would say it's probably cheating because of the grill

1704
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: I have. Um, yeah, it's okay, good, Yeah, I have

1705
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: the uh the pellet grill kind of just throw it

1706
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: in there. It's all on your phone, tell you when

1707
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: it's warm. It's like an overrated oven, you know, and

1708
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: so if it tastes good, there's no cheating in all, Okay,

1709
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the end result. The means justify

1710
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: the end food. I think the means justify the end.

1711
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna say. Yeah, I had a brag

1712
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: about yourself, David. Okay, cool, cool. I don't care what

1713
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: people say because people have told me that's cheating. Yeah,

1714
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: I will tell them. The food is great, so you

1715
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: can't complain too much. And I grilled or smoking our

1716
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: first turkey last Thing'sgiving and it was amazing. Yeah, all

1717
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 1: it was amazing. I did it. I mean it took

1718
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: me probably like two two days. You got it all

1719
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: set Yeah, it all set up, had marinated and everything right.

1720
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: And when it was done, Oh, I thought I could

1721
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 1: have been on a chef show. I should have joined,

1722
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, one of those chef shows. That's how good

1723
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: it was. That's awesome. So you've got a lot of

1724
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 1: teammates who are also excellent grill masters. And we heard

1725
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 1: about a lot of these new guys that came in

1726
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: this year. You know, they get together and they grill.

1727
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: So of your teammates, do you know, is there one

1728
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: guy that a rise above the rest as far as

1729
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: just he's a great cook, admit, whether it's not, whether

1730
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: it's on the grill or not. I mean, does anybody

1731
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: what have you heard so last year obviously, Duke Johnson

1732
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 1: was a huge cook, shoot, huge chef. This year, I

1733
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: haven't heard too many guys. Um, we all mostly talk

1734
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: about going places, best restaurants and stuff because yeah, exactly,

1735
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 1: and not just that, but we have so many new players,

1736
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: so they all want to see the new restaurants as

1737
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,560
Speaker 1: in Texas, and everyone says how great Texas barbecue and

1738
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: everything is. So I absolutely most guys come to me

1739
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: more for restaurants to go to. Okay, are you a

1740
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: barbecue guy? Oh yeah, what's your perfect barbecue plate? What's

1741
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: on it? Oh? Oh got obviously ribs, got to have

1742
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: burnt ends. Okay, barbecue beans, mac and cheese, uh, coleslaw ooh,

1743
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 1: that's really the main that's that's about it. I can't

1744
01:23:55,680 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: eat turkey. What's the drink? Drink is spire sweet tea? Okay? Yeah?

1745
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: Maybe mashed potatoes? Yeah, okay, you don't see too many

1746
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: mashed potatoes with barbecue. That's a good. That's good. Maybe

1747
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: broccoli supreme. Try to be a little healthier. I told

1748
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 1: someone that. So they had a question for us the

1749
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: other day during camp during camp, and it was the

1750
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: cookout question. Yeah yeah, and I got so much heat

1751
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: because I was the only one who said to have

1752
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 1: it veggie spread the cookout. But that wasn't your that

1753
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: wasn't your number one choice. To to back you up here,

1754
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: You're you're saying a lot of things and this you

1755
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: aren't saying just yeah, like top it off, you know,

1756
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 1: be a little healthier. I remember this. Yeah, I felt

1757
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 1: bad for you. Actually, Yeah, I was like, come on, guys,

1758
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: you can't. You gotta have a little bit of healthy

1759
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: know some you know, carrots, it's some ranch, it's in ranch.

1760
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's not absolutely health Yeah. Yeah, but yeah,

1761
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: a lot of guys are looking at me kind of sideways. Yeah,

1762
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: our video department kind of did you dirty? I'm gonna

1763
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: I'll call them out. That was one of them. Is

1764
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: off camera. I can say that to him. But yeah,

1765
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: for the record, that was not his first always, No,

1766
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,799
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was. Yeah. The barbecue one of many choices,

1767
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 1: like variety. Okay, some days for me it's ribs, some

1768
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: days it's brisket, some days it's sausage. But the best

1769
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,759
Speaker 1: day is when I could get all three. It's that simple.

1770
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 1: And what's also simple saying thanks to everybody that participated

1771
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 1: on the show today to Mark Vandermer, Philip Lindsay, Deep City,

1772
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 1: David Anderson, Drew Doherty and of course David Johnson and

1773
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: all of you for listening. Thank you so much. Have

1774
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:30,839
Speaker 1: a great and safe weekend everybody. We'll see you on Monday.

1775
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 1: And let's always go Texans. Let's go Texans, Let's go