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Speaker 1: Welcome in.

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Speaker 2: Kamala has made her VP pick. Yesterday I was nervous,

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Speaker 2: I was a bit afraid. Today I am joyful because

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Speaker 2: she has made an awful pick. I thought, surely she's

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Speaker 2: gonna pick Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro. It is the logical

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Speaker 2: choice to pick the most popular man in the most popular,

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Speaker 2: most important state in the twenty twenty four presidential election.

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Speaker 2: There is no pathway to the presidency for Kamala that

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Speaker 2: does not include winning Pennsylvania, so picking the most popular

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Speaker 2: man in that state was a no brainer. The problem

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Speaker 2: he's Jewish. Kamala Harris had a chance to stand up

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Speaker 2: to the anti Semites in her party and pick the

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Speaker 2: best man for the job. Instead buck she picked Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Governor Tim Waltz.

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Speaker 1: And I woke up this morning, rolled over to check.

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Speaker 2: My phone, and last night I was following, and yesterday

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Speaker 2: I was following the gambling markets.

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Speaker 1: When I went to.

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Speaker 2: Bed, it was basically fifty to fifteen money had been

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Speaker 2: coming in on Waltz, and then this morning he was

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Speaker 2: the pick. And I think it is an incredible unforced

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Speaker 2: error by Kamala Harris. But importantly, I think it goes

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Speaker 2: to the toxic core of the left of the Democrat

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Speaker 2: Party hates Jewish people, and I can't believe this is

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Speaker 2: the world that we live in now. But you've seen

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Speaker 2: it in the wake of October seventh, as all of

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Speaker 2: this has been playing out, we have seen the Democrat

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Speaker 2: Party unable and unwilling to stand up to the squad,

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Speaker 2: the Elon Omars, the Aocs, the Jamal Bowmans, the Rashida Salibs,

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Speaker 2: the Cory Bushes of the party that believe that Jewish

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Speaker 2: people should wouldn't have the right to live in Israel,

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Speaker 2: that Jewish people are the oppressors, the colonizers, that Arabs

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Speaker 2: are the victims. And that is what Kamala Harris has

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Speaker 2: now acknowledged by picking Tim Waltz, the guy that the

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Speaker 2: squad wanted, picked the guy on the far left. Trump

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Speaker 2: has reacted and said thank you. Even on the left.

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Speaker 2: Van Jones on CNN said, this is a pick that

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Speaker 2: demonstrates that Kamala Harris is afraid of the anti Jewish

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Speaker 2: contingent of her party. Listen to what was just said

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Speaker 2: on CNN Cut twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: Here's the challenge you've gotten this party, and people don't

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Speaker 3: want to talk about we got to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: On the one hand, you have a lot of young

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Speaker 3: people who concerned about Gaza. You have a lot of

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Speaker 3: Muslims and Arabs and others they had not felt seen

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Speaker 3: by the Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: You started starting in that genocide.

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Speaker 3: Joe, that was building building, and so those folks needed

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Speaker 3: to have a candidate that they could feel comfortable with.

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Speaker 1: This helps them in that regard.

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Speaker 3: But you also have anti Semitism that has gotten marbled

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Speaker 3: into this party. You can be for the Palestinians without

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Speaker 3: being an anti Jewish bigot, but there are some anti

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Speaker 3: Jewish bigots out there, and there's some disquiet now, and

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Speaker 3: there has to be how much of what just happened

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Speaker 3: is caving into some of these darker parts in the party?

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Speaker 2: Buck And you combine that the anti semitism with two

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Speaker 2: other things that I think are really significant. One Waltz

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Speaker 2: allowed Minnesota, Minneapolis in particular, to burn during the BLM protest.

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris raised money to bail out those protesters too.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to get into this a little bit

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Speaker 2: because I know it's going to fire you up. Waltz

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Speaker 2: set up a phone line for people to turn in

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Speaker 2: violators of his COVID rules. If you saw someone with

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Speaker 2: too many people at their house, if you saw someone

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Speaker 2: playing basketball in a park, you were supposed to call

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Speaker 2: in and turn in your fellow Minnesota citizens. That hotline

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Speaker 2: existed for months. This guy's a disaster.

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Speaker 4: This is a reminder of it.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, the birthplace of the intellectual progressive movement in america's Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: Really it's Madison, right next door to Minnesota. You get

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Speaker 5: some of these Midwestern progressives who are very familiar to

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Speaker 5: people like me who grew up in New York City

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Speaker 5: or people who grew up in the Bay Area. But

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Speaker 5: for them to be in the middle of the country

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Speaker 5: is a little bit of a woe moment for people

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Speaker 5: who grew up on the Eastern Seaboard or grew up

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Speaker 5: in the South. It's like, hold on a second. There

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Speaker 5: are people in Minnesota who are as left wing as

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Speaker 5: the staunchest progressive in the environs of Boston or Washington, DC.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and this is who who Tim Waltz is.

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Speaker 5: And what I have to say, I find that this

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Speaker 5: is a I'm actually a little surprised, and I'm so

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Speaker 5: rarely surprised by Democrats, but there must the anti Semitism

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Speaker 5: is so strong that they would rather take the hit

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Speaker 5: and they can argue about whether this is fair or

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Speaker 5: not as much as they want. There is a perception.

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Speaker 5: Even Van Jones had to address it, who he is

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Speaker 5: one of the more astute Democrats about Democrat mindset and

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Speaker 5: Democrat you know, views on things. For him to have

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Speaker 5: to address it as just a strong indicator of the

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Speaker 5: fact that yeah, they've got a lot of anti Semites

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Speaker 5: and they would rather be known as a party that

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Speaker 5: has to placate anti Semites than roll the dice on

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Speaker 5: Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania. And we are all I have.

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Speaker 5: I have not heard a single you know, in all

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Speaker 5: the side chats with all the conservatives. I know, I've

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Speaker 5: got all these different side chats. You know, I got

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Speaker 5: my I got my crazy right wing people, I got

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Speaker 5: my Florida people, I got my New York behind enemy

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Speaker 5: lines conservatives. Like I talked to everybody right and on

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Speaker 5: all the side chats play not a single person I

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Speaker 5: have talked to. And these are people all follow politics

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Speaker 5: for a living. I mean, this is all they do.

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Speaker 5: No one is saying, oh man, this Waltz pick, this

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Speaker 5: has got me worried, not one person.

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Speaker 1: So it's a gift.

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Speaker 5: When you look at that calculation, you have to come

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Speaker 5: away with it saying that, yeah, they really they thought

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Speaker 5: Michigan was done.

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Speaker 4: They're giving up Michigan if they go with Shapiro.

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Speaker 5: And I think that they also were looking at Michigan

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Speaker 5: and Wisconsin as almost a tandem, right, Michigan, so go

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Speaker 5: with one, so go with the other. Likely it's not

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Speaker 5: necessarily the case, but I think that there's perception that

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Speaker 5: you'll have some crossover in terms of the voting, you know,

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Speaker 5: voting patterns in both places. But I mean, this is

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Speaker 5: great because now we get to run. You have Kamala

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Speaker 5: Harris who wanted BLM rioters bailed out, raised money to

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Speaker 5: do it. I just shared the tweet. It's still up raise.

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Speaker 4: Money to do it.

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Speaker 6: And you have Tim Waltz who let the rampaging hordes

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Speaker 6: destroy parts of Minneapolis, loot and burn and riot, I

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Speaker 6: mean arsonists and assaulters and people doing all kinds of

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Speaker 6: horrible stuff. A police station burned down. He let it

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Speaker 6: happen and was happy that there.

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Speaker 4: Was a racial justice reckoning going on in.

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Speaker 5: His state, or whatever garbage he was peddling at the time.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is honestly, I'm at the point now

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Speaker 5: where I'm like, if the country elects these two, these

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Speaker 5: two clowns, the country almost deserves to suffer.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what. I know that we're not going

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Speaker 4: to vote for them.

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Speaker 5: But if these two can win, if these two together

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Speaker 5: on a Democrat ticket with ninety days before the election,

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Speaker 5: can beat Donald Trump, I don't know. Man, It's time

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Speaker 5: to start looking for land in Costa Rica or somewhere.

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Speaker 2: I think that this is a sign of Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: having no spine. We've been talking about what does Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris actually believe in? And I think that's important because ultimately,

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Speaker 2: when you elect someone, you strip down everything else. You're saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: I want someone who has the following values making the

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Speaker 2: toughest decisions for the country. And that's the idea of

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Speaker 2: electing a president. What does Kamala Harris believe in? Yes, look, economy,

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Speaker 2: she's wrong on it, Border, she's wrong on it, crime,

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Speaker 2: she's wrong on it ECB. We know that, right, What

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Speaker 2: does she actually believe in?

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Speaker 7: Though?

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Speaker 2: Because to me, Buck this is more of her doing

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Speaker 2: whatever is politically expedient. Because Josh Shapiro is the best

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Speaker 2: candidate for her to have picked. She was afraid to

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Speaker 2: do it because of who he upset, and instead she

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Speaker 2: allowed herself to be bullied into taking Tim Waltz, who

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Speaker 2: really hasn't accomplished very much if you look at the

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Speaker 2: data buck and this was from Harry Inton, who's the

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Speaker 2: data guy they're going to try to say, well, Tim

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Speaker 2: Waltz appeals to the big ten voter that I talk

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Speaker 2: about a lot, right, the blue collar football fan in

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Speaker 2: all of those Midwestern states. He actually underperforms in the

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Speaker 2: red areas of Minnesota relative to the liberal areas. So

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Speaker 2: this is not a guy who's going to suddenly go

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Speaker 2: out to State College, PA area right where Penn State

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Speaker 2: is and suddenly be drawing in a ton of people.

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Speaker 2: He's not a rural connector in that way. We know

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris isn't like this is a big whiff in

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Speaker 2: terms of even the argument you're trying to make for him,

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Speaker 2: even leaving aside the anti Semitism and cowardice of Kamala

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Speaker 2: in refusing to stand up to that element of her party.

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Speaker 5: I also think that we've seen this phenomenon. You know,

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Speaker 5: we're at the RNC in Wisconsin, and this was a

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Speaker 5: very apparent a lot of the people who were there

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Speaker 5: who were true Wisconsin ight. Politico has made this clear

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Speaker 5: that the way Democrats get elected in Wisconsin is to

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Speaker 5: be Wisconsin nice and you know, be the home state

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Speaker 5: guy who isn't going to sell out to Washington, d C.

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Speaker 5: And this is that's specifically on the Senate, you know,

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Speaker 5: Senate and congressional races. I mean, the governor is a

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Speaker 5: little bit different. But the idea is you tell all

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Speaker 5: the people in your home, it's like Martin Basher, it's

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Speaker 5: beer is the same. Not sorry, not Martin, sorry, Andy.

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Speaker 5: Martin Basher is a different situation.

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Speaker 2: And I was going to say, like this is how

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Speaker 2: that's the guy who interviewed all the British people back.

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Speaker 5: Is back in the day for the Royal family's chief interviewer.

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Speaker 4: No, no, not that guy, the other guy, Andy Bsher.

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Speaker 4: But you know he We've this phenomenon.

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Speaker 5: Kentuckians liked that guy enough for whatever reason, that they'll

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Speaker 5: vote for him. I think that with somebody like a Waltz,

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Speaker 5: Minnesotans know him, like him, and I know it's a

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Speaker 5: pretty blue state, but part of it is that he doesn't.

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Speaker 5: He pretends like he's different from those like the Pelosi

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Speaker 4: And he's not. He's not.

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Speaker 5: And this is the more that this can be exposed,

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Speaker 5: the better, the more that he is just shown to

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Speaker 5: be a part of that Democrat system and what happened

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Speaker 5: with BLM. You know, for me, the COVID thing is

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Speaker 5: just that will never be I will never forgive people

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Speaker 5: like him for what they did. I will never let

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Speaker 5: that go. But you know, maybe we're zelots on this issue.

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Speaker 5: But on the BLM side of things, Clay I forget.

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Speaker 5: I think it was a verad meta on x Twitter

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Speaker 5: who put out they should just have people whose stores

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Speaker 5: were looted and burned out on campaign commercials for Trump

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Speaker 5: just being like the governor, the police. They didn't do

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Speaker 5: anything that didn't care ensure doesn't just cover it by

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Speaker 5: the way people say that don't know anything. That's not

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Speaker 5: how it works. They ruin people's livelihoods over Saint George Floyd.

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Speaker 2: Really no, and I think a lot of these ads

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Speaker 2: right themselves. This is why I didn't think she'd picked

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Speaker 2: him Waltz And you can say, okay, well she didn't

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Speaker 2: pick Josh Shapiro. Who would you have picked. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're not gonna pick Josh Shapiro, I think you

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Speaker 2: go with your boy, the astronaut Mark Kelly in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: He's in a toss up state. He could make a

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Speaker 2: difference there. Maybe he adds fifty one hundred thousand votes.

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Speaker 2: And to your point, when you have almost universal exhalations

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Speaker 2: I feel like we all got a massive early Christmas

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Speaker 8: Saving America one thought at a time. Clay, Travis and

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Speaker 5: I've been talking about the big news of Kamala Harris's

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Speaker 4: Still don't know what kent talk.

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Speaker 5: The mass Democrat? It's just it's it's silly, It's just silly.

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Speaker 5: But jd Vance is now the the opponent of Tim Waltz.

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Speaker 5: We've never seen this before. Everything is different now. What

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Speaker 4: That we rail against regularly on this show.

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Speaker 5: I think it's fair to say Tim Waltz is a

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Speaker 5: I mean, you go down the list. I can't think

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Speaker 5: I don't agree with Federman a lot, but I think

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Speaker 9: Here's the thing about Tim falls Look, Tim Walls is

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Speaker 7: This is a guy who, when rioters were burning down

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Speaker 9: It just highlights how radical Kamala Harris says. This is

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Speaker 4: I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 9: Actually they make an interesting tag team because, of course

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Speaker 2: I think that's a great line. I think it connects.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying like this is that there.

436
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Speaker 5: Is no moderate argument for the The media is just

437
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 5: gonna have to lie and lie and lie and lie.

438
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Speaker 5: It is impossible to claim this is a moderate Democrat

439
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Speaker 5: ticket in any stretch of the imagination, which is.

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Speaker 6: Again why Shapiro would Shapiro is less communist?

441
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Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, I mean, this was a disaster pick. Yesterday.

442
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Speaker 2: I was not optimistic because I thought Kamala is gonna

443
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Speaker 2: get a VP bounce, She's gonna pick Shapiro, and then

444
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna roll into the convention and by September she's

445
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: going to buy Labor Day, She's gonna have the lead.

446
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's true now. I think that this

447
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: is if anything actually gonna hurt her. It's the opposite

448
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: of a bounce, whatever recession, whatever the opposite of a

449
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: VP bounce would be. And I gotta tell you, they

450
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: got to clip this. The Trump team does that line.

451
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: They make an interesting tag team because Tim Waltz allowed

452
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Speaker 2: rioters to burn down Minneapolis in the summer of twenty twenty,

453
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Speaker 2: and the few that got caught, Kamala Harris helped bail

454
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Speaker 2: them out of jail. Jd Vance Scott Wagner, smart guy,

455
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 2: texted me earlier today that they should have ads saying

456
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: make America burn again, Kamala Waltz because to me, again

457
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Speaker 2: leaving aside my maybe a bit unfair attack on Minneapolis

458
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: never winning anything in sports, When I think about Minnesota,

459
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Speaker 2: I think about the failure of people to be protected

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Speaker 2: in that state during twenty twenty. I think a lot

461
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Speaker 2: of people out there think the same thing. This is

462
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Speaker 2: something to lean in on.

463
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Speaker 5: I mean, next time you're going to go fishing for

464
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Speaker 5: some muskies and some walleye, you better stay out of

465
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 5: the land of ten thousand lakes.

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Speaker 4: Mister Clay Travis, I think.

467
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Speaker 2: There's a huge percentage of Minnesota's listening to us right now.

468
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 2: When I said that they dropped their head in silent

469
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Speaker 2: and they don't even put up a fight on it. Well,

470
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Speaker 2: they're just like basketball fans in New York. You're just

471
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Speaker 2: you just had to be like the worst just got

472
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Speaker 2: a franchise of the last thirty years.

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Speaker 4: It's just true.

474
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Speaker 1: You just got to take it. I mean the Twins.

475
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: The Twins lost like seven hundred and sixty four consecutive games,

476
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Speaker 2: and Captain.

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Speaker 4: Wampwomp over here with the sports now too.

478
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Speaker 2: I just know the vi is inevitably shank a field

479
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Speaker 2: goal anytime they have a chance to win something that matters. Buck,

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Speaker 2: That's a great stat you know. I'm sorry for Martin

481
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: Anderson out there. I believe it was Morton Anderson. Guy

482
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: didn't miss a field goal the whole season, had a

483
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Speaker 2: chance to put the Vikings in the Super Bowl, miss

484
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Speaker 2: the field goal.

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Speaker 5: Clay, you were just joy riding in the wreckage of

486
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Speaker 5: Vikings fans dreams right now, Okay. You know, we were

487
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 5: trying to get them all motivated to go to the

488
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Speaker 5: polls and defeat this communist that their governor is now

489
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Speaker 5: going to be vice president.

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Speaker 2: I I just I cannot believe this is a gift.

491
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: I don't know who's advising Kamala Harris, but she made

492
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Speaker 2: the worst VP pick. Trying to think of a VP

493
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Speaker 2: pick that I would look at and I would say, oh,

494
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Speaker 2: my goodness, like this.

495
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Speaker 5: Is I think Tim Kaine for Hillary was really weak.

496
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Speaker 5: And I do think people are already making this comparison

497
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 5: between Waltz and Cain. They're both just kind.

498
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: Of land old white guys, lumpin proletariat, old white guy socialists,

499
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: nothing impressive, nothing, no charisma. I think with Hillary, at

500
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: least you could say that choice was a I'm winning,

501
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to rock the boat and make a

502
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: choice that hurts me. It was sort of a blandly

503
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: inoffensive choice to me. If you're behind, and I think

504
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: Kamala is, the last thing you want to do with

505
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: your VP is make it harder for you and reinforce

506
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: the things that people didn't like about the choices you've made.

507
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I would have taken Waltz off the board,

508
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: and I thought surely she would have just based off

509
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: the fact that she raised money for the rioters, Buck,

510
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: I would have said, the last thing I want to

511
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: do is reinforce my defund the police screw up and

512
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Speaker 2: the fact that I raised money. I mean, think about

513
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: how critical people are of Trump for simply saying he

514
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: would pardon the January sixth, some of them rioters that

515
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: have been that had been convicted, Kamala bailed them out.

516
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 2: She was raising money to never hold them accountable in

517
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Speaker 2: any way for the crimes that they committed.

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Speaker 4: And they really, you know, they really were hurt. I

519
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: mean physically.

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Speaker 5: First of all, they a lot of those rioters hurt cops.

521
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 5: They hit them with rocks, they threw bottles, they threw

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00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 5: bottles of urine at them. I talked about this a

523
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Speaker 5: lot of the time, Clay. Some of these BLM rioters

524
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: at a federal courthouse in Portland were trying to shine

525
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 5: lasers in the eyes of officers, hoping that they would

526
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Speaker 5: they would damage their sight and blind them. I said,

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Speaker 5: if someone told me I'm trying to blind you, I

528
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 5: mean I think you're allowed to use I think you're

529
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Speaker 5: allowed to use extreme.

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Speaker 1: Physical force to stop that from happening. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 5: If someone's like, oh, I'm just gonna blind you, I

533
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Speaker 5: think I should be allowed to shoot at you. I'm

534
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 5: just gonna say it's true if someone really thinks that

535
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 5: they can blind me. I mean those lasers can you

536
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 5: damage your eyes. It's harder for them to actually blind you,

537
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: from what I understand. But just think about the mentality

538
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: I'm going to blind these cops. And these people are psychopaths,

539
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 5: and they're all Democrat based voters.

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Speaker 4: What us up prize to absolutely nobody.

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Speaker 5: I think that they were doing horrible things and when

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00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 5: they destroy these businesses. Ask somebody who has had a

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Speaker 5: house burned down or a business burned down what it's

544
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 5: like dealing with insurance. I actually just went through this

545
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 5: with a friend of mine recently. Was explaining it is

546
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 5: a nightmare. Insurance company doesn't want to write you a check,

547
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 5: and they want to write you the smallest check possible,

548
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 5: and they're going to deduct any kind of expenses they can.

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00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 5: I mean, it's you know, if you think that your

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Speaker 5: business is worth two million.

551
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 4: Dollars, you're lucky. If you get a check at the

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Speaker 4: end for.

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00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 5: Eight hundred grand, you know it's and you know then

554
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 5: you've got expenses that you have to pay and all

555
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 5: kinds of things.

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00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: So they ruin people's lives and for what? For what

557
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: because of George Floyd?

558
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 5: Because a drug addict died if a combination of physical

559
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: compression and heart attack because it was high on fentanyl. Really,

560
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 5: that means you burned down a neighborhood. Where was the

561
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: stern speech from Waltz about that one. Where was the Hey,

562
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: this is not who we are as a people, as Americans.

563
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 5: We don't burn down neighborhoods. The cop ended up going

564
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Speaker 5: to prison for twenty five years, his life is destroyed.

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Speaker 5: We could have a whole other conversation as to whether

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Speaker 5: that's fair. By the way, I don't believe it is.

567
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 5: But still Tim Waltz is in favor of all this stuff,

568
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 5: and now we're going to make Vice President Kamalo is

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Speaker 5: bailing them out of me Clay unforgivable stuff, unforgivable stuff.

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Speaker 2: I just can't believe that they reinforced this, which is

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Speaker 2: why I'm stunned, beyond belief that they made this choice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's it's absolute utter madness, and it's

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Speaker 5: got a lot to talk to about today.

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Speaker 4: Welcome as zoways. Clay and I love getting a chance

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Speaker 4: to talk to you. Haven't seen you since Florida.

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Speaker 5: Clay was Clay was enjoying all that Florida freedom, although

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Speaker 5: it's free in Tennessee too, but he knows Florida's got

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Speaker 5: something special going on. He won't admit that, but it's

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Speaker 5: just true now, although he owns a house in Florida,

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Speaker 5: so he does admit it.

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Speaker 4: It's fine. Let's start with this.

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Speaker 5: Is it really just pure anti semitism that kept Shapiro

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00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 5: off the VP ticket and made it Walls?

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Speaker 4: Is that really what's going on? Or are we missing something?

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Speaker 10: So I think it is, and I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 10: I was very worried that she would pick Joshapiro, and

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Speaker 10: that would be a strong pick. He seems like he's

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Speaker 10: got it all going on in the Democratic Party right now,

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Speaker 10: and she needs to win Pennsylvania. Donald trumpet win Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 10: It's a very competitive state. Having a popular governor who

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Speaker 10: doesn't say crazy things, doesn't do crazy things would have

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Speaker 10: been a plus for a ticket. So I was very

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Speaker 10: worried that she was going to pick him. But the

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Speaker 10: anti Semitic left made that easy for me because they

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Speaker 10: basically pressured the Kamala Harris campaign into not choosing him,

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Speaker 10: and so instead she went with Tim Walls, who was

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Speaker 10: an absent governor during the BLM riots. He let his

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Speaker 10: city burn, His daughter let the protesters know when the

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Speaker 10: National Guard was going to be on duty based on

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Speaker 10: what information she had from within her dad's office. I mean,

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Speaker 10: this is a radical left pick. So yeah, a lot

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Speaker 10: of Jews are feeling uncomfortable with where the Democrats are.

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Speaker 10: But it shouldn't be just Jews. The American should be uncomfortable.

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Speaker 10: She picks someone far left, and this is the ticket

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Speaker 10: that they're going to ride into November. This is the

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Speaker 10: next president and vice president.

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Speaker 1: We're all in trouble, Carol.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking for months now about whether this rising

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Speaker 2: tide of anti semitism on the left, characterized by college

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Speaker 2: campus protests by the squad inside of the Democrat Party itself,

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Speaker 2: would force some Jewish voters to recalibrate their election decisions. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm curious how you would analyze this. But one data

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Speaker 2: point that's out today in the New New York Times

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Speaker 2: poll of the state of New York, which has Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris winning New York by fourteen points, which would be

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Speaker 2: nine points less than Biden wanted in twenty twenty, Trump

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Speaker 2: is actually winning Jewish voters by one point of I

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Speaker 2: believe it's fifty to forty nine, if I'm not mistaken

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Speaker 2: or something along that.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious if you saw that.

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Speaker 2: Do you think New York is emblematic of how Jewish

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Speaker 2: voters might vote nationwide or is it a bit of

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Speaker 2: a different animal.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'll tell you. If they're getting that those kinds

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Speaker 10: of numbers in New York, I think it'll be higher elsewhere.

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Speaker 10: So Trump got thirty percent of the Jewish vote nationally

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Speaker 10: in twenty twenty, but he got like thirty four percent

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Speaker 10: in places like Florida. And really, what we're looking at,

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Speaker 10: and it's not enough data points from twenty twenty, is

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Speaker 10: the Pennsylvania Jewish vote, because that could really move the needle.

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Speaker 7: A lot of.

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Speaker 10: People are very concerned about the Pennsylvania Jewish vote, you know,

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Speaker 10: on the left, and they should be because look what

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Speaker 10: just happened. Look how she rejected the Jewish governor. But

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Speaker 10: that's really where the numbers are going to be. I

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Speaker 10: think New York is a more left leaning Jewish voter,

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Speaker 10: even considering the large Orthodox population. So if he's winning

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Speaker 10: in New York, I think that that number will be

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Speaker 10: higher in places like, for example, Florida. And so we'll see.

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Speaker 10: My thing was, these things happen slowly. I think the

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Speaker 10: Jewish vote is moving rightward, and it has been for

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Speaker 10: the last few years. I think the Jewish vote on

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Speaker 10: Long Island made a difference in the midterm elections. I

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Speaker 10: think that the Republicans picked up seats because of that

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Speaker 10: Jewish vote. It's happening, it's happening slowly. I set the

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Speaker 10: number at thirty eight percent. My good friend Josh Hammer

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Speaker 10: thinks is maybe about forty Nationally. If you go above that,

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Speaker 10: that'll be a real sea change, and it won't just

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Speaker 10: be for one election.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if you're right, that would be roughly

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Speaker 2: an eight point improvement or ten point improvement. That's a

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Speaker 2: pretty seismic difference in terms of how the Jewish vote

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Speaker 2: would break. If you're right that it goes from seventy

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Speaker 2: thirty to sixty forty exactly.

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Speaker 10: And the thing is that, you know, if that happened,

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Speaker 10: then you do count on things like the Pennsylvania Jewish

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Speaker 10: vote winning Pennsylvania for Donald Trump. Even though it's a

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Speaker 10: small percentage, it's enough to move the needle. And so

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Speaker 10: you have that in certain places where that could really

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Speaker 10: make a difference. It can make or break the campaign

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Speaker 10: for him. So I obviously I am a lifelong conservative.

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Speaker 10: I have always hoped that Jews wake up and vote

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Speaker 10: Republican because that's clearly what benefits them. Now forget about Israel.

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Speaker 10: If it benefits us in America, the Republican Party is

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Speaker 10: more apt to protect us and more app to let

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Speaker 10: us protect ourselves, which is really important to me. So

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Speaker 10: I hope that Jews wake up and do the right

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Speaker 10: thing in November.

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Speaker 5: Now, Carol, we're speaking of Carol Markwitz. Just reminding you

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Speaker 5: so that you can go subscribe to the Clay and

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Speaker 5: Buck podcast network. Click on Carol Show you listen to it.

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Speaker 5: She does great stuff, also a fantastic columnist. And my

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Speaker 5: mom gets excited every time I get to hang out

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Speaker 5: with Carol because she's a huge Carol fan. So, Clay,

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Speaker 5: do you have this too. We're like family members in

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Speaker 5: our business. They're never you know, they're family. They're ever

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Speaker 5: excited to like hang out with us because whatever. But

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Speaker 5: it's like, oh, you hang out with like Carol Markwitz

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Speaker 5: or like, oh Jesse Kelly's so funny, and you're.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I'm okay too, right Anyway? True story, true

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Speaker 4: story from mar A Lago.

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Speaker 5: By the way, since I'm going to this digression, Trump

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Speaker 5: Trump sees me, sees Carol, he brings us over are

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Speaker 5: he's sitting at his table.

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Speaker 4: He wants Childlis a little bit and he's like, he's like,

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Speaker 4: he's like Buck, He's like, you're doing great work. You're

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Speaker 4: doing great Carol, better than you, but you're still doing

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Speaker 4: great work. Just like that. So anyway, it was fun.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, but Carol jd Vance, all the women commentary

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Speaker 5: around jd Vance?

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Speaker 4: Is it a problem? Is it? Is it fair to him?

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Speaker 4: Is it just noise? Where do you come down on that?

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Speaker 10: I think that most of the people who had a

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Speaker 10: problem with what he was saying, we're never going to

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Speaker 10: vote for the Trump Vance ticket, and they shouldn't spend

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Speaker 10: too much time trying to, you know, recoup those people.

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Speaker 10: But look, it hurt some feelings of women on the

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Speaker 10: right who maybe want to be married but aren't and

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Speaker 10: don't enjoy being called, you know, childless cat ladies. And

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Speaker 10: I get that. I really do understand that, and I

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Speaker 10: feel for those people. So what I would say is

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Speaker 10: that Trump Vance campaign should focus on women's issues, and

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Speaker 10: that are the same issues men's issues we care about.

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Speaker 10: The border. We care about crime, We care about affording groceries,

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Speaker 10: you know, at the store. So these are all issues

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Speaker 10: that cater to men and women, and that's what they

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Speaker 10: should focus on. Was Advance wrong in saying that a

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Speaker 10: society that's not having children doesn't care about the future. No,

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Speaker 10: I worry about that, for example with Britain. Britain seems

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Speaker 10: kind of a drift and not really focused on the future.

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Speaker 10: And I blame a lot of that on the fact

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Speaker 10: that so many people don't have kids and therefore don't

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Speaker 10: have this eye on what the future of the country

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Speaker 10: will look like, because why would it really matter? So

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Speaker 10: I get what he was saying in the macro. He

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Speaker 10: should have been kinder and maybe gentler about it in

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Speaker 10: the micro That's really the point here that when you

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Speaker 10: talk to women you kind of have to use a

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Speaker 10: little bit of a different tone. But was he wrong though?

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Speaker 10: He wasn't wrong, And I don't think they should spend

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Speaker 10: another minute talking about this.

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Speaker 2: Carol, we're sitting here on I got to make sure

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Speaker 2: I get the date right, August sixth. If you were

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Speaker 2: setting odds, how confident are you that Trump wins?

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Speaker 10: I am such a doomsday person. I don't know. You know,

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Speaker 10: I was. I was somebody that worried a lot that

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Speaker 10: they were going to drag Joe Biden across that finish line.

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Speaker 10: And I feel better with Kamala.

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Speaker 1: Harris to cut you off.

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Speaker 10: But I was so right for so long. It's like,

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Speaker 10: you know, somebody, somebody said it's like taking me under

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Speaker 10: and in a sport game, and I was, I was

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Speaker 10: right right up until I wasn't. But you know, I

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Speaker 10: think that it's I think we don't live in a

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Speaker 10: country that elects Kamala Harris far leftist with her far

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Speaker 10: left VP nominee. I really believe in US, so I

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Speaker 10: imagine that Trump has to pull it out. I think

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Speaker 10: some things need to break his way. I think that

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Speaker 10: his trials kind of need to be in the background,

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Speaker 10: and I know the Democrats will push him to the foreground.

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Speaker 10: But do we live in a country where President Kamala

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Speaker 10: Harris is inaugurated in January? I just I hope not.

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Speaker 5: I'm with Carol on this one, man. It's just at

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Speaker 5: that point, what is America if.

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Speaker 4: The Harris wall walls walls apparently we've been told not walls.

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Speaker 2: Whatever his name is, whatever his name is, I saw somebody,

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Speaker 2: you'll appreciate this, Carrol, Communists, go ahead. I was saying,

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Speaker 2: I saw some people saying this is the most difficult

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Speaker 2: apostrophe combo in presidential ticket history, with Harris and Waltz Walls,

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Speaker 2: whatever the guy's name is, this is I agree. I

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Speaker 2: think it's an unmitigated disaster. If it's possible that they

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Speaker 2: can get elected, they are legitimately, I think, the farthest

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Speaker 2: left wing ticket in American political history.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's nuperbole.

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Speaker 10: That's right. And look, you know we buckled down in Florida.

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Speaker 10: If that, if that happens and we start a revolution

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Speaker 10: of our own right.

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Speaker 2: Red states, I would say, well, I'm in a red

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Speaker 2: state now in Tennessee. But I would say that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people would respond by moving to red states

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Speaker 2: because I do think there are people fed up with

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Speaker 2: the federal level who say, Okay, I want to move

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Speaker 2: to a red state and make sure that at least

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Speaker 2: i'm protected there. Ron de Santis actually shared on X

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Speaker 2: Carol that you probably saw this that when it comes

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Speaker 2: to Minnesota and Florida, a Minnesota is five times as

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Speaker 2: likely to permanently move to Florida as a Floridian is

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Speaker 2: to move to Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: Not surprising, but still, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, that's a tough move to go Florida into Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know very many people are like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give up warm weather all year round.

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Speaker 2: I want to freeze my ass off.

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Speaker 5: It would take a while to sell all your flip

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Speaker 4: It's not great.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So that's a tough transition. So much.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, Thanks Carol, great to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Hirsh's mom from Jerusalem, and Rachel, we appreciate you joining

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Speaker 2: us and sharing your story. How did it happen that

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Speaker 2: Hirsh was taken captive by Hamas and how did you

871
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Speaker 2: come to find out about it? Take me back to

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Speaker 2: that day on October seventh, if you would and share

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Speaker 2: with our audience what you experienced.

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Speaker 11: Okay, thank you, so much for the opportunity to tell

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Speaker 11: you about my only son, Hirsh, who had just turned

876
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Speaker 11: twenty three on October third, and so for his birthday,

877
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Speaker 11: he and his best friend whose name was Honor, they

878
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 11: both went to this Nova music festival that was happening

879
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Speaker 11: in the south of Israel on October sixth, and early

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Speaker 11: in the morning on October seventh, very early, the festival

881
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Speaker 11: came under attack by Hamas and other militant terrorists and

882
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Speaker 11: they ended up killing just at the festival itself three

883
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Speaker 11: hundred and sixty seven people. Now Hersh and Honor managed

884
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Speaker 11: to escape to a roadside bomb shelter that they ran to. First,

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Speaker 11: they tried to escape in a car with some other

886
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Speaker 11: kids from the festival, and they ended up coming under

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Speaker 11: great rocket fire. So they were hiding in a roadside

888
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Speaker 11: bomb shelter. Hamas gunman came to the doorway and were

889
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Speaker 11: throwing in hand grenades, which Honor was standing in the doorway,

890
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Speaker 11: picking them up and throwing them out, picking them up

891
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 11: and throwing them out, And there were twenty nine young

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Speaker 11: people who were smashed into this tiny five foot by

893
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Speaker 11: eight foot bomb shelter. So you can imagine the you know,

894
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Speaker 11: density of human beings who were in that tiny space.

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Speaker 11: Honor managed to repel seven of those hand grenades. The

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Speaker 11: eighth one, while it was in his hand, it exploded

897
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Speaker 11: and killed him. Then Hamas threw in three more hand grenades,

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Speaker 11: which caused a lot of carnage right away. And then

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Speaker 11: they just stood in the doorway with all these kids

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Speaker 11: smashed inside. These gunmen just were machine gun firing into

901
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Speaker 11: this tiny little space. So most of those young people

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Speaker 11: were dead right away. What we heard from some of

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Speaker 11: the quote unquote lucky ones who were trapped under the

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Speaker 11: dead bodies. And I call them lucky because they were

905
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Speaker 11: covered in so much blood and gore that they could

906
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Speaker 11: pretend to be dead. And it is from those eyewitnesses

907
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Speaker 11: that we heard what happened next, which is that.

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Speaker 12: Gunmen came in.

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Speaker 11: There were four I call them boys because I'm old,

910
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Speaker 11: but you know, hirsh was twenty is twenty three. I

911
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Speaker 11: mean that's not you know, a boy, that's a young man.

912
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Speaker 11: There were four young men who were wounded, slumped again

913
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Speaker 11: the against the opposite wall, and they were clearly alive.

914
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Speaker 11: They couldn't pretend to be dead. They were ordered to

915
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Speaker 11: stand up. They were marched outside they were put on

916
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Speaker 11: a Hamas pickup truck. They headed into the direction of Gaza.

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Speaker 11: Hersh's last phone cell signal was at ten twenty five

918
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Speaker 11: in the morning from inside of Gaza.

919
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Speaker 12: Now at eight eleven in the morning. We normally I.

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Speaker 11: Observed the Jewish Sabbath in a very religious way, so

921
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Speaker 11: I don't use technology. I didn't have my phone on.

922
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Speaker 11: I didn't have a computer, TV, radio, nothing. But we

923
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Speaker 11: in Jerusalem were hearing bomb sirens going off, and so

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Speaker 11: we got into our safe room and after ten minutes

925
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Speaker 11: it was just my daughters and I who were home.

926
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Speaker 11: My husband was already at synagogue.

927
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Speaker 12: We were going to him in a little bit.

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Speaker 11: When I got out of the safe room at eight eleven,

929
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Speaker 11: I said to the girls, I'm going to turn on

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Speaker 11: my phone, even though I don't normally use my phone

931
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Speaker 11: on the Jewish Sabbath, because I need to make sure

932
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Speaker 11: that Hersh and Honor are okay. And when I turned

933
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Speaker 11: on my phone was when I saw that there were

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Speaker 11: two I'm.

935
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Speaker 12: Actually I'd like to correct myself.

936
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Speaker 11: I turned on my phone at around I think it

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Speaker 11: was eight twenty three. I had received at eight eleven

938
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Speaker 11: two text messages from Hirsh the first one said I

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Speaker 11: love you and the second one said I'm sorry. And

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Speaker 11: that's how I came to know something terrible was unfolding.

941
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Speaker 11: And what was horrible was I knew that Hirsh knew

942
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Speaker 11: something terrible was unfolding, And of course what we came

943
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Speaker 11: to find out is that he as this whole attack

944
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Speaker 11: was happening. One of the things that happened is Hirsh's

945
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Speaker 11: dominant arm. He and I are both left handed. His

946
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Speaker 11: left arm from the elbow down had been blown off,

947
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Speaker 11: and he was texting us. I think because he thought

948
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Speaker 11: he was dying. He had just seen Honor get killed.

949
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Speaker 11: He had just watched eighteen people get killed in front

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Speaker 11: of him in this tiny room of as I mentioned,

951
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Speaker 11: eight feet by five feet. And since then we've really

952
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Speaker 11: lived on another planet. As you you know, if either

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Speaker 11: of you are parents or you can imagine your own

954
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Speaker 11: mother and father what they would be going through if

955
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Speaker 11: something like this you can even try to imagine, you know,

956
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Speaker 11: what they would be going through.

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Speaker 12: And for the last three hundred.

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Speaker 11: And five days, we have had one moment of proof

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Speaker 11: of life, when six months in Hamas released a propaganda

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Speaker 11: video of Hirsh clearly alive he's reading a script in Hebrew,

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Speaker 11: which we don't speak Hebrew at home, so it was

962
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Speaker 11: unusual for me to hear him doing that.

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Speaker 10: But he.

964
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Speaker 11: Looks gone, he looks very pale. He has bruising on

965
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Speaker 11: his forehead. He is missing his left forearm, but it

966
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Speaker 11: is healed.

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Speaker 12: And that's it. That's all we've had.

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Speaker 11: So imagine any of your loved ones for three hundred

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Speaker 11: and five days being held in an active war zone

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Speaker 11: by people who did this to these young people into

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Speaker 11: so many people who were caught up in the in

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Speaker 11: the atrocity of October seventh. There are still one hundred

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Speaker 11: and fifteen hostages being held. They represent twenty four different nations. Hirsh,

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Speaker 11: as you mentioned, Hirsh as an American and in Israeli

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Speaker 11: he's a civilian. There are eight US citizens who are

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Speaker 11: still being held in Gaza right now as I'm speaking

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Speaker 11: to you. And there are Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and

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Speaker 11: Buddhists in that group of one hundred and fifteen people

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Speaker 11: who are still being held.

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Speaker 12: And you very rarely hear that.

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Speaker 11: You kind of hear the media representing them as a

982
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Speaker 11: they are a monolithic, homogeneous clump of people, which is

983
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Speaker 11: an injustice because they're a very diverse group of people.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of Rachel Goldberg, Poland, she's the mother of Hirsh,

985
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Speaker 5: who was a hostage taken from the Nova Music Festival

986
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Speaker 5: on October seventh during the Hamas mass terror attack. Rachel,

987
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Speaker 5: what kind of updates do you get? You mentioned that

988
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Speaker 5: your son, Hirsh is a duel Israeli an US citizen.

989
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 5: What kind of upgates updates can you can you tell

990
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 5: us about in terms of where the negotiations stand.

991
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 12: Oh, I wish I knew.

992
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 11: I think that because of the nature of this crazy

993
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Speaker 11: situation and there are so many hostages, and I think

994
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Speaker 11: what I didn't mention is it's also a very diverse

995
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 11: group of ages. You know, yesterday was Ariel's birthday. Ariel

996
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 11: is one of the youngest hostages. He turned five yesterday.

997
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Speaker 11: There is a five year old being held hostage for three.

998
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 12: Hundred and five days.

999
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 11: His brother, Fear is one and a half. He's actually

1000
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 11: lived in captivity longer than he lived in freedom, and

1001
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Speaker 11: the oldest hostage being held is eighty six. Now, because

1002
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Speaker 11: of so many people, I think the nature of any

1003
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 11: negotiations or conversations that are happening both, you know, in

1004
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Speaker 11: normal channels and quieter channels. They're not discussing the details

1005
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Speaker 11: of that with the families. I think it's so sensitive

1006
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 11: that they know that it is something that they can't

1007
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 11: talk about with us, which is tremendously painful. I mean,

1008
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Speaker 11: we are living in an ambiguous trauma, a slow motion

1009
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 11: misery of trauma that is just it is so exquisitely

1010
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 11: painful that it's impossible for me to find words to

1011
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 11: describe it.

1012
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Speaker 9: To you.

1013
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 2: Rachel, we appreciate you sharing your family's struggle here with

1014
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: all of us, because I think one of the great

1015
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Speaker 2: failures of all of this, as you mentioned, there're still

1016
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen hostages from twenty four countries. Obviously,

1017
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Speaker 2: we have a monster audience here in the United States.

1018
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: They're eight United States citizens. How would you assess Joe Biden,

1019
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris and also other Republicans as well Democrats in

1020
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 2: terms of if I go back in time based on

1021
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: what I remember when there were hostages taken in Iran

1022
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 2: and Jimmy Carter was in office, it was a massive

1023
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 2: story about we got to get the Americans home, We

1024
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Speaker 2: got to get the Americans home. I understand there are

1025
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Speaker 2: one hundred and seven other hostages that don't have American citizenship,

1026
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Speaker 2: but I'm stunned that the eight United States citizens that

1027
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: have been there for over three hundred days isn't a

1028
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: bigger story in the United States and in our political discourse.

1029
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Speaker 4: Are you?

1030
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: Is that frustrating to you? How would you analyze the

1031
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: American side of this to allow eight US citizens to

1032
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Speaker 2: still be held hostage for this long?

1033
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Speaker 11: Well, I think it's a real failure on the part, frankly,

1034
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Speaker 11: of the media deciding not to cover this the way

1035
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 11: that I remember as a child you mentioned it. I

1036
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 11: remember being eight years old and wandering into the living

1037
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Speaker 11: room one night because I couldn't sleep, and my father

1038
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 11: was watching TV, and I said, what's that number on

1039
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Speaker 11: the screen? And who's that man with that huge head

1040
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Speaker 11: of hair? And it was Ted Copple on Nightline ABC.

1041
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Speaker 11: Every single night he would have in the corner the

1042
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Speaker 11: number of days that it.

1043
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Speaker 12: Was that hostages US hostages.

1044
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 11: Were being held in Iran, and it was the top story,

1045
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 11: and there was tie a yellow ribbon around trees, around lampposts,

1046
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 11: around telephone polls, and it was a passionate topic for

1047
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 11: all Americans, all freedom loving Americans, and that has not

1048
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 11: been the case with this and it is a tremendous

1049
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 11: slap and failure.

1050
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Speaker 12: Now when you ask.

1051
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Speaker 11: About specifically about the President, the administration, Congress, I do

1052
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 11: have to give kudos that they have been very supportive

1053
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 11: across the aisle. This has been a real bipartisan issue.

1054
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 11: I have to say that Senator Lindsay Graham has been

1055
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Speaker 11: very supportive.

1056
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 12: He came to Israel three times. He always brings.

1057
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Speaker 11: A congressional delegation that is spanning the isles, you know,

1058
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 11: and he stood up in October, he came here and

1059
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 11: he stood up with Senator Blumenthal, who is a Democrat,

1060
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Speaker 11: and he said, we are here because this is a

1061
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 11: human issue, and this is an American issue. This is

1062
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Speaker 11: not a Republican or Democrat issue. And that will remain

1063
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Speaker 11: the case. And every time we go to Washington, which

1064
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 11: is about every three weeks or so, we see people

1065
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Speaker 11: from both sides of the aisle, which.

1066
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Speaker 12: Is very heartening for us.

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Speaker 11: And look, I think that this is a very tricky situation.

1068
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Speaker 11: We've never in the history of war ever had a

1069
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Speaker 11: situation where people drag two hundred and fifty one hostages

1070
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Speaker 11: ranging in age originally from nine months to eighty seven

1071
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 11: years old, originally from over forty countries, and have them

1072
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Speaker 11: hiding in a labyrinth of hundreds of miles of tunnels

1073
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Speaker 11: underneath the city, with the people who drag them using

1074
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Speaker 11: them as human shields.

1075
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Speaker 12: So it's a very tricky.

1076
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Speaker 11: Without me being a military tactician, it is a very

1077
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Speaker 11: challenging situation, and that's why diplomacy is critical right now.

1078
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Speaker 12: Happy the deal is critical.

1079
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Speaker 11: Because we are not going to be able to save

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Speaker 11: these people by military going in without losing tons of

1081
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Speaker 11: life and probably losing the hostages along the way, as

1082
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Speaker 11: well as kind, brave soldiers who are trying to save them.

1083
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Speaker 5: Rachel, the prayers of this audience are with you and

1084
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Speaker 5: with your son, and we hope he's returned to you soon,

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Speaker 5: and we hope the rest of the hostages are returned

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Speaker 5: to their families as well. I know it's a very difficult,

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Speaker 5: gut wrenching story. Thank you for sharing with this audience.

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Speaker 5: People need to know a man.

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Speaker 11: appreciate your kindness.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sharing that story. And many

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Speaker 2: refer to October seventh as Israel's nine to eleven. You

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Speaker 2: just heard from Rachel Goldberg, Poland that is the mother

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Speaker 2: of Hirsh, one of the hostages that is being held

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Speaker 2: still by Hamas one of our sponsors. Tunneled to Towers

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Speaker 2: a foundation set up by a brother of one of

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Speaker 2: the three hundred and forty three firefighters lost on nine

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Speaker 2: to eleven. We're still losing firefighters to this day, including

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Speaker 2: Daniel Foley. Daniel assisted in rescue and recovery efforts Ground Zero,

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Speaker 2: but he couldn't have known his heroism would cost him

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Speaker 2: his life more than eighteen years later. His death, like

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Speaker 2: so many others, resulted from nine to eleven related illnesses

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Speaker 2: caused by the toxic dust that formed when the twin

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Speaker 2: towers collapsed. He's just one of many first responders still

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Speaker 2: suffering and dying from nine to eleven. It's been twenty

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Speaker 2: three years, and we have a generation of children unaware

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Speaker 2: of America's darkest day. The Tunnel to Towers nine to

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Speaker 2: eleven institutes helping educators teach children about nine to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Tunnel the Towers nine to eleven Curriculum units have scripted lessons,

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Speaker 2: background for teachers, activities for students, and they're based on

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Speaker 2: first person accounts that designed to meet many academic standards.

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Speaker 2: Help our nation keep its promise to never forget. Donate

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton.

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