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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: What up y'all? It's like yeah, And this week we

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Speaker 2: are traveling back back back back to June of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: when we finally caught up with se Lo Green. Yep,

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Speaker 2: se Lo Green. He talks about finding his voice, Goodie Mob, Lawls,

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Speaker 2: Barkley and all the good stuff. It's so good that

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Speaker 2: it's a two parter. We know you love those as

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Speaker 2: we queue that up for you, don't forget to make

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Speaker 2: sure you check out our whole Dungeon Family series of interviews.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, y'all, from Organized Noise to My Girl Joy

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Speaker 2: to even Quest one on one with Andre three thousand. Yep,

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Speaker 2: it happened. So here is part one of se Lo

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Speaker 2: on Questlove Supreme.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 1: I'm us Love here with Laiah Sugar, Steve Payville and Fontakeolo.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how how bad do we miss our theme song?

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Speaker 3: It's just playing. Just play it in your just comment

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's killing me inside that we're doing all

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Speaker 1: these these great episodes. Yeah, with no roll call, it's

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Speaker 1: killing me inside. We asked, we got we gotta think

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Speaker 1: of a way to do a social distance social distance

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Speaker 1: roll call exactly. Uh, Ladies and gentlemen, please uh welcome

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Speaker 1: our guest today, legendary gentlemen. I know this is kind

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Speaker 1: of always get weird when I'm like, I have to

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Speaker 1: introduce people that I really really really know, not like

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Speaker 1: people that just myro on television or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but Grammy Winner, the most transformative MC in

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, our guest take that, yes, our yeah,

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Speaker 1: multiple Grammys, I will say, even more like one of

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Speaker 1: my really one of my favorite singers living today. I

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Speaker 1: mean I could I could name maybe like for them

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Speaker 1: that I really like, not even people that are able

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Speaker 1: to sing, but people that are able to move you

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Speaker 1: when they sing, not to mention very effective in see

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Speaker 1: most people forget that. As one fourth of the legendary

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Speaker 1: Goodie Mob Atlanta, what more can I say? Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: please welcome to coest Love Supreme, the one and only

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Speaker 1: Thomas de Carlo Callaway aka.

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Speaker 3: Celo Green. I did not know your middle name was Carlo.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, greetings, Kings and queens. How are you?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Brother? How you feel? Were you right now?

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Speaker 4: I'm in Atlanta. I'm technically I'm an hour outside of Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: I'm out in Peachtree City. I live out in the

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Speaker 4: country out here.

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Speaker 5: So you never left Atlanta always? Did you ever live

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Speaker 5: in l A for a little while or were you

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Speaker 5: always Atlanta?

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Speaker 4: I did when I was when I was out there

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Speaker 4: doing the Boys, I was there for about five years,

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Speaker 4: and then I left l A. And I went and

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Speaker 4: lived in Las Vegas for two years, okay, then Miami

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Speaker 4: for two years, and now I'm back in Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: Okay, gotcha. I think the last time I saw you,

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Speaker 5: it was a minute ago. Me and Pool we ran

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Speaker 5: into you outside of BOSTONOVA.

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Speaker 4: In l A. Yeah, it was after show, and I recognized,

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Speaker 4: like I was surprised that I recognized.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, I seen you. I said,

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Speaker 6: look at the home Boys.

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Speaker 5: I know, yeah, I you know. I mean, I never

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Speaker 5: assumed that you know, cats will know who we were. So,

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Speaker 5: but I guess if you see us together, that's when

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Speaker 5: you can kind of do the math.

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, man.

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Speaker 4: Quest would be able to affirm that, you know, I'm

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Speaker 4: a real head, you know, so, so yeah, you could

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Speaker 4: pop quiz me and just about just about any topic

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Speaker 4: I should, I should, I should pan out pretty good.

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Speaker 5: That's what's up every question?

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Speaker 4: What you're doing chilling.

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Speaker 3: Here on a on a ranch?

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Speaker 1: A little sad now because uh just got news today

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Speaker 1: that my four of my uh poultry friends have have

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Speaker 1: the hen see now Steve laughing? Right now, those don't

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Speaker 1: know I'm quarantining. I quarantine upstate New York. You know,

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Speaker 1: when I started, there was five chickens and six baby ducks. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the baby ducks are now as big as Debo on Friday.

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Speaker 3: So now they bully the chickens, while.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, raccoons and foxes have found inventive ways to come

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Speaker 1: and eat the chickens.

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Speaker 7: So how do we know that it's foxes and raccoons

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Speaker 7: that are murdering the chickens.

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Speaker 3: Because we can clearly see who it is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well I'm just saying, ever since you show up

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Speaker 3: Whatever, Steve AnyWho?

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Speaker 4: So that's dope question. I'm on a ranch too. We

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Speaker 4: have a ranch property out here in Atlanta. No, because

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Speaker 4: vacation vernal property in Airbnb because I haven't been. I

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Speaker 4: haven't been living in Atlanta primarily.

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Speaker 6: So no.

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Speaker 4: When we first got this property about twelve years ago,

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Speaker 4: they kind of they threw a couple of horses in,

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Speaker 4: you know, as a package. But you know me, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: but I didn't you know, I had to, you know,

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Speaker 4: decline because you know, first then then I did my

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Speaker 4: diligence or not. And I found out that the horses

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Speaker 4: course I just I just didn't have I didn't have

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Speaker 4: was like, nah, thank you. I appreciate the gesture, but no,

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Speaker 4: no thanks. So no, no animals.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely taking care of animals on a farm is

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Speaker 1: a full time job.

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Speaker 8: How about that?

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Speaker 2: A little circle moment moment though, talking to South Philly

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Speaker 2: and Atlanta over here, Now y'all both got y'all both

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Speaker 3: You never thought the hip hop would take it this far?

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Speaker 3: What part what part of Atlanta were you born in? See?

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Speaker 4: Southwest Atlanta swats swats the south.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so explain to me what'swats is Southwest Atlanta to star.

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Speaker 3: One place? Don't start claiming everything.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So Southwest Atlanta is.

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Speaker 4: It's it's like a a a four street kind of conglomerate.

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Speaker 4: I mean that that starts at Campbelton Road, which is

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Speaker 4: where Tyler Perry's first television studio was based, right around

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Speaker 4: the corner from Greenbury Mall. I grew up on that street.

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Speaker 4: It was it was a vacant Delta building that he

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Speaker 4: on to buy Fort McPherson, which was an uh an

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Speaker 6: But anyway, so yeah, no, it's it's that it's cambell

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Speaker 4: So like it's just like a four street parallel. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I mean East Point is one street over,

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Speaker 4: you know where Big Gip is from from Goodie Mob,

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Speaker 4: and then you know, you keep going on that then

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Speaker 4: being College Park is another few miles over. That's that's ludicrous.

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Speaker 4: That's two chains and those guys.

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Speaker 3: Isn't didn't Diallo said that he went to school with Silo.

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Speaker 3: He went there.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if he went to now Diallo riddle

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Speaker 5: his uh? I think he said he went to Benjamin Mays. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he went there. He went to Benjamin Mays. He me

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Speaker 5: and him work on the show together, A Sherman Showcase, Showcase.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I know.

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Speaker 6: I know they'll know since since we were kids.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah yeah, yeah, I was trying to figure out.

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Speaker 1: I knew that Dalla went to school was someone notable,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't know if it was you or Big Boy.

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Speaker 4: It was you, that's a fact, that's a fan. We

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Speaker 4: went to Amazing Big Boy and Dre they went to

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Speaker 4: Try Cities High School. Okay, yeah, so Candy from Escape

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Speaker 1: So, and you're in growing up. First of all, are

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Speaker 1: you the only child or you you have other siblings?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I have I have one of the siblings. I

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Speaker 4: still because she didn't like she did not like me

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Speaker 4: when we were kids, I couldn't. I was locked out

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Speaker 3: You know how much older was she?

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Speaker 4: Two years older? Okay, She's like, yeah, no, we're really

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Speaker 4: close now she's like she's my realtor. She's my property manager,

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Speaker 6: She's a she's a diag woman, Yes she is.

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Speaker 8: He saw her beautiful.

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Speaker 1: So in growing up, what was the musical environment like

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Speaker 1: someone in that house had to been singing or was that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, well both both my mother and father were ministers.

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Speaker 4: But but I wasn't just completely like sheltered, you know

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Speaker 4: even though I spent a considerable amount of time in

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's you know I'm real.

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Speaker 4: That's how you know I'm real. And of course the Whinings,

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Speaker 3: So that means Christian radio was on in your house

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Speaker 6: It was, it was.

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Speaker 4: they were friends of my mother's when I was young.

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Speaker 4: So I would go to the radio station and he

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Speaker 4: I would listen to stuff like, you know, Johnny Taylor

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Speaker 4: So like I love the blues growing up too, the

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Speaker 4: you know that there was a parallel that that you

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Speaker 4: know that connected to two.

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Speaker 3: If you ask me, I want to know what age

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Speaker 4: I I can remember.

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Speaker 6: Man who sings gene Chandler.

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Speaker 4: It's a song called the Rainbow, and we used to

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Speaker 4: we used to uh sing this uh you know in

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Speaker 4: the family talent shows in front of the big floor

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Speaker 6: So it was this song.

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Speaker 4: And then it was Jackie Wilson's dog can be around.

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Speaker 4: So I knew that. I knew that.

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Speaker 3: Right right, So so.

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Speaker 4: So if you notice I can imitate I can imitate him.

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Speaker 4: So like that's how I learned how to sing, because

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Speaker 4: what I mean. And then and then you filter it

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Speaker 4: into you know, what's to become your own living experience

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Speaker 4: in the way that you know, you interpret life, you know,

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Speaker 4: Well, I lived just moments from the the community park,

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Speaker 3: What you think of?

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Speaker 6: That's right, that because Williams.

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Speaker 3: It was the glasses.

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Speaker 4: They actually they resembled each other. Damn, you're right. It's

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Speaker 6: She's that's that's her uncle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, wow, what that was true?

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Speaker 4: True story?

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Speaker 1: Was Goodie Mob your first musical venture or like did

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I had one other group before Goodie Mob.

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Speaker 4: I had a I was in a in a crew

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Speaker 6: So uh, you know, I owe a lot.

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Speaker 4: I did a gratitude to them because they really gave

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Speaker 3: How deep was or how strong was the first wave?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I consider the Leaface era the second wave

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Speaker 3: But for the.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Bobby moved there in I think in

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Speaker 1: So right, I mean, but you know, I knew, like

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Speaker 3: The music industry in Atlanta in your teen years?

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Speaker 4: Well, we definitely knew of Brick. Jimmy Brown from Brick.

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Speaker 4: So we knew about Brick, and we knew about Cameo,

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Speaker 4: ends up being Miss Deborah Killings, who's who's ended up

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Speaker 3: That's right, she is playing based on elevators. I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe maybe he came to atlnt of the

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Speaker 3: Lives doing. Man, he's still cool. How's he doing.

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Speaker 4: He's good, man, He's really easy going, just like a

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Speaker 4: I mean? And you know he at at one point

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Speaker 4: ownership and their masters back and stuff like that. You know,

440
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 4: but you know, we befriended each other throughout that that time. Uh,

441
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 4: he's just he's just a great all around guy. Talented,

442
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 4: just this an unsound individual, so talented. Man.

443
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 8: I still touched the stage this cameo.

444
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 6: Still, Yeah, I think I think they still tour.

445
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how I said to me now, but

446
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 4: I know, like a few years back, they were still

447
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 4: moving around and they actually, you know, so this would

448
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 4: be five years ago because at my fortieth birthday they

449
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 4: were surprised guest performance for me at my fortieth birthday,

450
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 4: So everybody came out, you know, did all did all

451
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 4: of the greats? I used to I used to love

452
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 4: Alligator Woman.

453
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 5: Ye know, they're yeah, there's all vanity on the cover.

454
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 6: You know, I didn't really know what that was. What

455
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 6: kind of music is this?

456
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: When we you and D'Angelo love that song? Man was

457
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: my doing, but they also how I got them. It's

458
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: like a little sort of a new wave nod. They're

459
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: nons a new wave. Yeah, I think it definitely was

460
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: a nod to new wave. I mean, like, you know,

461
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: because I end up over hearing some conversations. Maybe I

462
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: watched the interview with James and he was basically saying

463
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: that super Freak was inspired by Devo's whip It. I mean, like,

464
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: so I think everybody was trying to trying to cash

465
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: in on Yeah. Yeah, what can you put together or

466
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: or properly put in context, how the Dungeon family gets built,

467
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: like instead of just asking like how did Goodie Mob form?

468
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: How did the entire collective become that? Or was it

469
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: just a mythical marketing thing or like no, were you

470
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: guys teenagers in the beginning and then had a plan

471
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: to well?

472
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 4: At the time, Rico Wade and Sleepy Brown were part

473
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 4: of a dance troupe called Guests and the dance Troops

474
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: were the superstars in the city at that time, because

475
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 4: you know, all of the you know, all of the

476
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: high schools had different tenant shows, so it's basically going

477
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 4: around like on a promo tour, you know what I mean,

478
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: in the city. So they were kind of, you know,

479
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: locally celebrated, you know, because you know they were you know,

480
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 4: they were one of the more famous ones. It's them

481
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 4: the stray Cats, you know what I mean, Like, which

482
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 4: was a gang I was a part of. I was

483
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: part of the Straight Cats, like a gang. You guys

484
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 4: for me were young drove from Atlanta? Yes, okay, okay,

485
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 4: So y'all know how Joe dressed dress. Joe dress is

486
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: like he's he grew up in you know, like he's

487
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 4: a part of a golf community on the back, like

488
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 4: he's basically like super prep, super prep. So like it's

489
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 4: like the Atlanta version of the low Lights in New.

490
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 5: York met Chers and howell on them boys, you know

491
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

492
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we was on it real hard like that

493
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: in Atlanta too, so like three tons and Bennetton bags

494
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: and tennis rackets and stuff like that.

495
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 6: You know, I just had on the fair Tree to

496
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 6: the other day.

497
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: Man, Like anyway, they.

498
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: Still du dre he had his online years ago.

499
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did align with them. I got I got

500
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 4: a couple of boxes, you know, courtesy of the homide.

501
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

502
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: But but no, okay, So to answer the question, So yeah,

503
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: so everybody knew them. And then they were also a

504
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: part of R and B crew called the You Boys.

505
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 4: So it was Sleeping Brown, Rico Way, mister DJ who

506
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: ended up being the DJ for Outcasting He's Rico's cousin,

507
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: and Marquez Elf who ended up writing water. Yeah.

508
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 6: So they were a group called the You Boys.

509
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: And I remember I had gotten I had gotten expelled

510
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 4: from the Atlanta public school system, so I couldn't even

511
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 4: go to school in Atlanta, so I had to be uh,

512
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 4: I had to be taken away to Gainesville Georgia, and

513
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 4: I went to Riverside Military Riverside Military Academy.

514
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 6: I was, I was, I was, I was something else

515
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 6: as a kid.

516
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: I'm just just troublesome, man. I don't know, bro, I

517
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: was just getting so much trouble. I don't know what

518
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: was wrong with me at that time. But yeah, so

519
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 4: so I came back. I came back, and I had

520
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 4: to go to Frank McLaren Alternative School, which was a

521
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 4: school for dropouts. And so me and D three thousand

522
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 4: were classmates, uh in the third grade. So we went

523
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: to elementary school together and we were like we were

524
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 4: play cousins, so we were really we were really close.

525
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: It was like my brother when we when we were babies,

526
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: pretty much. And so I ended up coming back to

527
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 4: Atlanta enrolling in Frank McLaren Alternative School, which was across

528
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: the railroad tracks from Tri Cities, so, which is where

529
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 4: he had dropped out of school. So we both would

530
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 4: dropouts and we were going trying to get that ged

531
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: and that's when we reconnected that after having not having

532
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 4: seen each other for years. Okay, so I saw a

533
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 4: you boys picture there. It was like, you know, how

534
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: you might see something they may have been passing out

535
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: those those black and white you know groups, you know

536
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: where they got the managerial So it was that, but

537
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: it was on the ground and I just recognized, you know,

538
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: I had I recognized Steepe Brown from from dancing in

539
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 4: the talent shows because they were they were famous, they

540
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 4: were they like the hottest ones around for a long time.

541
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 4: So he always had a look about himself. I'm like,

542
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 4: I recognized him, and I recognized my quiz elfemish too,

543
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: So I saw that me and Drake hooked back up.

544
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: That's that. I introduced him to DJ Win and DJ

545
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 4: Li and I tried to get them to be a

546
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: part of the GA style and we went over with

547
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: just some little you know. They they did their first

548
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: demo with DJ Win that you know, that didn't work,

549
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: did I remember? One day they came back up to

550
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: school with some look and then he introduced me to

551
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 4: Oh the day he introduced me to Big Boy is

552
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: when I took them to meet DJ Win. So they

553
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: took the train over there, they came up to the school,

554
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: we all rode the train, the DJ Wins and and

555
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 4: that that's that. But like shortly after that they came

556
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: back and it was like, Yo, we met these we

557
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: met these dudes, and he was talking about organized noise.

558
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: He's like yo, He's like yo, he said, yo, dude,

559
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: this is cool. But man, these dudes, but they got

560
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 4: some fucking you know what I mean, they got some

561
00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: you know. So then you know, this is like ninety

562
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: ninety nine.

563
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know.

564
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 4: I guess what year? What year the DOS Effects come out?

565
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: Like ninety two, ninety one?

566
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, ninety one. That was dead serious ninety one.

567
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: All right, So that was that your marketing level, because

568
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: because that's what we was on. I mean, like you

569
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 4: know that would I mean it was it was it

570
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: was DOS Effects for me and Dre, it was Doc Effects.

571
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 6: It was leaders of the New School. I forgot who.

572
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 4: Else may have been rocking at that time.

573
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: So Sol was a big influence. I definitely influenced Outcast.

574
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 4: Yes, a mister, come on, tj Oko, you know what

575
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, no, you know, Domino Casual.

576
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: So there was definitely an openness to well, I guess

577
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: there wasn't territorial markings until ninety three ninety.

578
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: Four, but yeah, we ain't look at it like then.

579
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: When you were open to anything in the South.

580
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 5: We had to study everything, man, That's why we had

581
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 5: to study.

582
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we loved it, and I'm saying we loved it.

583
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: Uh so, So basically I'm trying to narrow the story down. Okay,

584
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: So a good friend of mine, pretty Ken, Pretty Ken,

585
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: ended up being a good friend of mine, and he

586
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: ended up you know, so.

587
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: I always who he was because you shouted him out

588
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: the good I was like, who.

589
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 4: So pretty Kid and my cousin floating they ended up

590
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: creating the Addict Crew. Now, me and Kidd were like Kendricks,

591
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: Kendrick Spirits, and when when I was introduced to Overnight's Noise,

592
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: you know, he was he was like my role dog.

593
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: I was living with Ken at the time, so like

594
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: we went over there together. But our tones of voice, personalities,

595
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: you know, swagging the whole thing. We were like we

596
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: were bulls and buddies. So like they just you know,

597
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: they took to me a little bit more and wanted

598
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 4: to work with me, and they just felt like me

599
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 4: and Kid were two similar. So you know, he ended

600
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 4: up out of the Attic Crew, which would give you

601
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: Jim pro prolo to.

602
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 6: Don the young Blood and in that whole movement.

603
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: So that's pretty cad.

604
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 6: But his cousin, Fat Keith, was a friend of mine.

605
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: That's name I'll too. I'm giving you all these nighbors.

606
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: Me and Fat Keith were a green brow mall right.

607
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: So we're walking past, you know, the door, about to

608
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: leave out. There's like ten payphones in a row. There's

609
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: this dude standing there with his back to us. Keith

610
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 4: recognizes him and he taped it on the shoulder, this

611
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 4: Marquez Inflix. And then I recognized him from the picture.

612
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 4: I said, because you know, I got like a photographic

613
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: memory down there. So I'm like, okay, that's the homework

614
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 4: for that picture. I saw, like you know or whatever.

615
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 4: So he said, Yo, my homeboy singing and he could rapt.

616
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: He should check him out, you know what I'm saying.

617
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: So I stood, I went outside with him and I

618
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: sang for him, I rap form and he said, well,

619
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: I was actually on the phone trying to call over

620
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: to the dungeon. He said, I know that they're there,

621
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: but you know, maybe the music is up two louds

622
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: or something. And Keith was like, we'll take you over there.

623
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: What is it?

624
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 4: And he was like, yo, it's like you know one

625
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: sixty six you know what I mean, like, which is

626
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: the expressway, you know over by the fair grounds. I said,

627
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 4: we know it's you know, it's like ten minutes up

628
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: the road. So he jumps in the truck with us.

629
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: I go over to the dungeon and I'm leaving at

630
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: one part one time. So after after drean bing introducing it,

631
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: and the thing didn't work out with DJ when they

632
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: came back when they said man were about to do

633
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: a showcase full of face records, they had on the

634
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 4: face Records t shirts and they both had blonde hair

635
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: They had blunt, short blonde haircuts, and they were calling

636
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: themselves two Shades DJ at the time.

637
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 6: So Dre's original.

638
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: Rap name was Jazz j A h Z Jazz and

639
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 4: big Boy Big big Boys, big boys, you know, given

640
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 4: the names.

641
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 6: Antoine, so it was Jazz and twin.

642
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: So so you know, they haven't even know what that

643
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 4: vibe was. That sound like a do y'all remember do

644
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 4: you remember Dallas Austin's first group of Highland placed monsters.

645
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 6: Just get okay, let's get niggad. So you remember Tip Maniac?

646
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: Yes, okay.

647
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 4: Me and Tip were like play brothers too, so people

648
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 4: thought we looked alike, you know what I mean. But

649
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 4: like Tip is like he was just like me. He

650
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 4: like a real food and that's why he got his

651
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: nickname maniac, you know what I'm saying.

652
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 9: Like, so he's really talented to guy, just just you know,

653
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 9: just one of those over the you know, over the top,

654
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 9: you know, you know, one of those one of those torture.

655
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 4: Soul type type, you know, tragedy cats man, you know,

656
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: like a good guy though loving her death. But anyway,

657
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 4: so a small community in Atlanta, So I gotta say

658
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 4: this part so fact. He takes us over to the dungeon.

659
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: I remember, I'm recalling conversation from Dre and Big the

660
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: day that they said they were gonna get signed to

661
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 4: the face.

662
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 6: So we go to the dungeon, Sleepy Brown sitting there.

663
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: I recognized him from a You Boys picture. I sang

664
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 4: for him and he's like, okay, cool, I like it.

665
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 4: Then he comes Rico walking in the door with Dry

666
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: and Big. They had just stepped out to go and

667
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: get something to eat. Drace, you know, with excitement saying

668
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: that's my dude, That's what I was telling you about

669
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 4: this Sea Low. He's the one that does all of

670
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 4: the story raps because at that time, you know, our

671
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: rhyme like that, like I was on some you know

672
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 4: slick Rick. That was like saying, you know, so anyway,

673
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 4: that's it. So I sang again for Rico and then

674
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: you know we ended up you know, reconnecting and blah

675
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 4: blah blah left that night.

676
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 6: And then two other homeboys of mine.

677
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: This is like months later, Big j D and Killer Bee,

678
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 4: two of the homie hustlers from high school.

679
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 6: You could tell they was getting money in high school.

680
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: You know, he had to. He had that. He had

681
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: that black grand jeep Cherokee with the gold package.

682
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 6: And the BBS is you know what I mean, like

683
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 6: in high school.

684
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: In high school, like you remember the one Heavy It's

685
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 4: the one Heavy D pulled up in in the self

686
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 4: destruction video. He had a red one call that. So anyway,

687
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 4: so that so they was managing me at the time,

688
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: you know, because they met they even though I knew them,

689
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: they didn't know. Nobody knew I did music. Everybody knew

690
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 4: me for getting into getting into ship and like you

691
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: go get go, get Carlo, He'll he'll do it. That

692
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: was that kind of guy, you know. So we were

693
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: at we were at my homeboy Glenn Cook's house. I'm sorry.

694
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 4: Let me tell you.

695
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: We're keep going keep I'm more amazed that you were

696
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: debo in this situation.

697
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like that prince b out this mother then

698
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: from the.

699
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: District. I was school the whole district. Plus I was

700
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 4: bowl like that whole you know, rabbing motherfuckers for starting

701
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: jackets and stuff like that. That was me. That's what

702
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 4: I say.

703
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 8: Now it's coming. All right, thank you, thank you.

704
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: Here we go.

705
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 4: It's true. No music.

706
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 6: Music, music totally saved my life.

707
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 4: Man.

708
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: All right, wait, I just gotta, I gotta, I gotta

709
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: preface because the thing is my favorite verse you ever

710
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: did on on uh still standing the.

711
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: Gutta but always yeah, he gave up the gut a butter.

712
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 3: And in my mind, I'm like, you look an tell

713
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: a tall tale, like.

714
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Can't about that life, But damn you play it well, motherfucker.

715
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 3: You really is living.

716
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 4: No dude, I'm telling you a question. If you just

717
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 4: probably do just an interview with anybody else from Atlanta,

718
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 4: they'll take you. I don't really like to talk about it, man,

719
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 4: but because I don't know, it's it's it's weird.

720
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 3: I know, Jesus.

721
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: Definitely, most definitely. So listen, I don't want to I

722
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 4: don't want to lose it. So so okay, they I

723
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: battled Koo Joe, Kujo and Big Gip pulled up to

724
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: our homie Glenn Cook's house. He was he was like,

725
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 4: who's the guy from American Pie? Uh Stiffler.

726
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 6: So Cook was like Stiffler.

727
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: He had He's the black stiffler the other neighborhood. Like

728
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 4: you know, if there was he was the one that

729
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 4: had to cut parties at his house. He could always

730
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: go at any point today, somebody was there, you know,

731
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 4: just bring some beer and and you know that's when

732
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: that's when we were still we were still going in

733
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 4: dollars a piece.

734
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 6: On nickel, bands of weed and you know, just broke

735
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 6: and stuff, broke hood ship, you know what I'm saying.

736
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 4: By you know, we couldn't even afford to buy the

737
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 4: whole pack of newports. Just go get four newports like

738
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: Loucy's and Duce Duce cold forty five old drinking forty ounces.

739
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 6: It was that era. It was that era.

740
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: Man, Okay, I battled, I battled Kujo because killer be

741
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 4: you know he I'll just say it, because he was

742
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: a wee guy at that time, but he was. He

743
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 4: ended up being my manager because they you know, and

744
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: so he played me Kujo and Timo's demo. So originally

745
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: they they were the goodie mob Lumberjacks, you know.

746
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 6: And so I heard their demo and I was like, damn.

747
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: You know.

748
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 4: I knew Timo because he grew up a street over

749
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: from me. His family's house is a street over from

750
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 4: my grandmother's house that I grew up. So I've known

751
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: him my whole life too. He's like the second person

752
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: I've known the longest, him Dre and then Backbone I've known.

753
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: I've known them all my life, you know. So anyway,

754
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: I used to hear about Willie. I heard about his legend.

755
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 4: Let will Kujo. The girls called him. He was voted

756
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: most attractive. And you know, my sister that would come

757
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: home because she she graduated in their class. So Kujo, Timo,

758
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: and Gilt graduated with my sister. So I'm three, I'm

759
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: three years older than them, but I knew so. But

760
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: WILLI was just kind of like hunk of a dude,

761
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, you know. But he was like a brawler,

762
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 4: like Patrick Swayzee and Roadhouse so like you know, so

763
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 4: around so around that time, it was about it wasn't

764
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 4: about games. It's most certainly about games in Atlanta now,

765
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 4: but it wasn't about games. It was about rival high schools.

766
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: So we grew up how like the movie Outsiders was,

767
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, you know we we we

768
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: fought in that same part that that was at the

769
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 4: at the end of my street. All of the high

770
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 4: school fights would take it to the wreck, that's what

771
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 4: they call it. It was short for recreation center. Let's

772
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 4: take it to the wreck. So I stepped there and

773
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: I witnessed a handful of high school all battle royals.

774
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 4: And you know, but I was an underclassman, you know,

775
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 4: I was really looking for my turn. So I was

776
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: really making noise in my in my grade. And then

777
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 4: I eventually started hanging with the older dudes and started

778
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: going over there and getting into those fights and stuff

779
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: like that, you know what I'm saying. So so with

780
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 4: that cook, I battled so uh, killer B was selling

781
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: us the weed. But the end of the end up being

782
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: my manager. He witnessed He became my manager because he

783
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 4: witnessed me battle Kujo, you know what I mean.

784
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 6: Like and I'll say that it was a draw, you

785
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 6: know what I mean?

786
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 4: Like, you know it was it was friendly, you know

787
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like, but you know I had the

788
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 4: secret weapon.

789
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 6: I started singing on him and all kinds of ship

790
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

791
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 4: It was like that. But you know, a lot of

792
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: people like to give me the credit for being maybe

793
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: one of the first to do that, them to let

794
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: myself Lawrence Hill. But I'm like, nah, I'm going all

795
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 4: the way back to force some d's and UTR phone,

796
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 4: you know, cold crushing and all of those routines they

797
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 4: used to do with the harmony.

798
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: So anyway, I was gonna say the one promo thing

799
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: that I've ever missed in the history of roots was

800
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: when they rent to a radio station.

801
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 3: Do you remember this night?

802
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: Yes, we freestyted, you know, I remember all y'all freestyle together.

803
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, comal.

804
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was on YouTube.

805
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll admit it now.

806
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: I met I met, I met a bad shorty in Atlanta,

807
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: and I I feigned sickness with the record label like,

808
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: oh man, I really got aheadache, I can't make this,

809
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: And they went to radio like normally I would. I'll

810
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: be the first to hide up good for you a

811
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: radio station, So.

812
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: Question, can I can I can I get on another

813
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 4: one for a second.

814
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 6: I used to love distortion to Static. Do you know that?

815
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: I mean like I got that that maybe right before that,

816
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 4: I think I got maybe like the promo copy.

817
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 6: Of do You Want More?

818
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And I remember telling Tyreek

819
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 4: and you know, no you know him, like I say, like, yo,

820
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 4: I really liked the album, bro. He said, oh, yeah,

821
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: what song do you like? You know what I'm saying,

822
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: you feel me like?

823
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 6: He was kind of like.

824
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: Always stop asking people that, so and so you.

825
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: Know, I'm not making it up because I remember, like

826
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 4: it was yesterday, and I said, oh, I like you

827
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 4: know the social static obviously you know what I mean,

828
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: like proceed and I said, like, and then I love

829
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: Lazy Afternoon.

830
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 6: He was like, oh shit, I'm saying you.

831
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 4: And I think I think that was kind of like

832
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 4: the beginning of a bond because then we ultimately didnt

833
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: end up doing one of our first our first tour together.

834
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all made y'all made such an impression.

835
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: I remember we we had spent we had spent a

836
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: good three years just in isolation living in Europe. So

837
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: when we finally came back to the state till ninety five,

838
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: like we didn't we didn't have friends yet, like there

839
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: was there was no common d'angela, Like there was none

840
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: of that like the click that we had. So we

841
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: were just kind of out there in the open. And

842
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 1: y'all were really the first people that we befriended, and

843
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: like that that shipment a lot, like y'all.

844
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: Y'all came to that show.

845
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: I think there was a show that we did with

846
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: the Far Side, and I think that you guys came

847
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: as like an outdoor show at one of those spots.

848
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: But the map, Yeah, but yeah, no, you you were

849
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: always That's how I know you're a hip hop ped

850
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 1: and and and into that. So how once you guys

851
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: got together, Like how especially now, like I can't even

852
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: imagine how it is to navigate in a group, Like

853
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: how do you determine who does what and concepts and

854
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: what you guys are?

855
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'll cap it off by saying kill it be.

856
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 4: And j D started to manage me after they witnessed

857
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 4: that battle, and then some months and then they were

858
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: trying to kind of show me that they were, you know, credible.

859
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: You know. They came and picked me up one night,

860
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: you know, and then they took me to Jermaine Dupree's house.

861
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 4: And this is when they were shooting the video for Crisscross. Uh,

862
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 4: everything's all right, it's the record they had. Yeah, so

863
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: that was at Jermaine's house and I.

864
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 6: Remember that and I said, okay, so it's.

865
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: Like they were showing you things. We're introducing you exposed,

866
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 4: and we're like all right, you know, cool whatever, you know.

867
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 4: So then they ended up taking me to the Dungeon again.

868
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 4: And when we were pulling up on the dungeon, you know,

869
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 4: you know, I said, this place looks familiar. So long

870
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: story short, they brought me back to the dungeon and

871
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 4: everybody was there. So I said, I've been here before.

872
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: I go in the door, dre, big, sleepy ring, everybody

873
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: who I just met months prior because of Fat Keith

874
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 4: and Markquz they were all there, in addition to Gip

875
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 4: and t MO and everybody just pulling up and it

876
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 4: was just traffic over there.

877
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 6: And I was like, wow, like this like my whole

878
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 6: neighborhood in this little bitty house, you know what I'm saying.

879
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 6: So that's how the Dungeon family came together. Now, as

880
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 6: far as the song structure, I'll be I'll be totally

881
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 6: and how we and what the system is. Man, what

882
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 6: happened was with the success of outcasts. You know, everybody

883
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 6: came in as individuals.

884
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 4: Let's say, for example, Big Gip and Cool Breeze were

885
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 4: in a group called the East Point Chain Gang. So

886
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: Gip came over as a solo artist. Now, if you notice,

887
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 4: Gip had always had everybody was. Gip was poised to

888
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 4: be the next superstar, you know what I mean, Because

889
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: you know Dirty South, which which was the third single

890
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: off of Soul Food. You know, it featured him in

891
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 4: Cool Breeze. He was just paying a respect to his og.

892
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: Cool Breeze is his og, and Cool bree came up

893
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 4: with the key coin the phrase dirty South. But technically

894
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 4: otherwise that would have been a gift solo song because

895
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 4: it's Ghip, Koobre's and Big Boy.

896
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 6: And then the second.

897
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: Album, Black Ice, which was a second single because I

898
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: well know nobody, nobody was on it. It was just

899
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 4: get big and get big and dre you know what

900
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So they were really looking for him to

901
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 4: really be the next the next big thing. So with

902
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 4: that being said, goodie mom. You know, the Soul Food

903
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: album was essentially meant to be intended to be a

904
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 4: compilation album to get everybody out at the same time.

905
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 6: So we weren't even formally a group.

906
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: So if you'll just put together.

907
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 6: So yeah, if you basically, but it's it's kind.

908
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 4: Of like the practicality of a Rico Wade and the

909
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 4: vision of a Rico Wad because you know, let's say

910
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 4: I was featured on Get Up, Get Out, you know,

911
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: which was another outcast song off of their album, and

912
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: Kujo t won't call it a while me and Big

913
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: Gibble on get Up, Get Out.

914
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 6: Get Up get Out ended up being a single, but

915
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 6: us being so totally ignorant and naive about radio format

916
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 6: that song.

917
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: Lyph this minutes. Yeah, we didn't know. We really didn't know, right,

918
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: So they had to put out an outcast version of

919
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 4: a goodie my version. So anyway, there was some interest

920
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: in me as a solo artist, but I was kind

921
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 4: of new over over to the dungeon, so.

922
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 6: You know, if it would it would have been wrong.

923
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: And to be totally honest, I can, I can I

924
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: can say that I wasn't prepared to be a solo artist,

925
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 4: but they wanted to give me a solo.

926
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 6: Deal, you know what I mean.

927
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: So I was all up to get in a group

928
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: with the Homeboys that I had known from the neighborhood,

929
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, like, so that's what goody mother

930
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: I said.

931
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 6: You know, you know this is easy enough.

932
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 4: I know the.

933
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 6: Homeboys, so but you know, I'm the baby that group.

934
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 4: I'm a lot. I tend to be more vocal than

935
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: just about everybody, so people kind of like misconstrue that.

936
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 6: But like now everybody's older than me, you know what

937
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 6: I mean, and.

938
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: Like three years.

939
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: Okay, well that could be ship and that's a lot

940
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: make a difference to me too.

941
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: Now it makes sense when I because I went to

942
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: Clark By the time all this was happening, I was

943
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: at CEU, and I used to see Selo on Spelman

944
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: campus and stuff all the time, just like chilling, because

945
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: that's what people did.

946
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 4: You used to see me down there in the in Pola.

947
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, like sitting on the.

948
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 4: Wall, that's it.

949
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was down there.

950
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 2: Because I was like, I wanted you to talk about

951
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: like so you talked about the beginnings of how y'all

952
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: all got together?

953
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 8: But by the time I got.

954
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: To Atlanta, it was a scene that was being set

955
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: that was like no other pre like black black, Black Lily,

956
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: like with you guys, funk.

957
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 4: Jet are you telling y'all? Because like you know, Spike

958
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: Lee filmed school days there, so it's like, you know,

959
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 4: the au that was popping, It's like that was like

960
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: the strip. I mean, like if you had a nice

961
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: whip or something like that, you ride through that, you know,

962
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 4: hollering at the college girls and this that and the

963
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: third so like it was just this little vicinity, you

964
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like you know of just like socialization,

965
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And it's like right next

966
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: to the hood. So it's like, so whatever you want.

967
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 8: We don't have Morris Brown at the time.

968
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 4: But so look, no, no, your question, answer your question.

969
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 4: I want to make sure that I'm clear, all right.

970
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: So with that being said, I just me. You know,

971
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 4: I'm like I write songs like playwrights, like screenplays, you

972
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 4: know what I mean, So like I have to have

973
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 4: a visual, I mean, like something to anchor me down,

974
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like you know, okay, like

975
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: we're talking about this, we're talking about that, and then

976
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 4: I know how to summarize, and I know how to paraphrase.

977
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: But you then you got artists like you know Kujo

978
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 4: who you know this, and I mean this with the

979
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 4: utmost respect. He's like fucking Hannibal Lecter, you know, man,

980
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 4: where he could he could, he could take his When

981
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 4: I first met Kujo, he was we would go to

982
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: the liquor store, have a forty yars old English. He

983
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 4: would finish the forty and take the brown paper bag

984
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 4: and write a rhyme on the paper bag. Or I

985
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 4: saw him write rhymes on a roll of toilet tissue.

986
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: So he would do really cool you know, you know,

987
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 4: swageristic eccentric shit like that, which made everybody be like

988
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: taking a notice to you know, like this big Kujo,

989
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So you know, so you know,

990
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 4: you know, I thought that kind of stuff was amazing,

991
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

992
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 3: And you remember, know what their role was in the

993
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 3: group or how they were perceived.

994
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 4: Well, I'm kind of like that. I was kind of

995
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: like project manager, you know what I mean, Like you know,

996
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 4: I you know, I came up with the the concept

997
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: of the soul food, uh you know, I came up

998
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 4: with that title. I came up with the concept of

999
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: know Kujo being the meat because things that he was

1000
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 4: saying was kind of tough to chew, you know what

1001
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, you know, uh t. Timo was the

1002
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 4: bread because Timo was just kind of like independent dude,

1003
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 4: you know, I'm saying, like, but man, can I live

1004
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 4: off bread alone? And Get was the vegetables because Gip

1005
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: is like, you know, this politician. He knows how to

1006
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 4: you know, wrangle and galvanize and get people together and like,

1007
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 4: you know, and I'm like the water because I'm there

1008
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: to be the transparency and the clarification because everybody was

1009
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: trying to you know, interject with new slang and you know,

1010
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: it was a whole new identity and even I, even

1011
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 4: I didn't understand what some some of what was being said.

1012
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 4: So I kind of like assumed the position to just

1013
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 4: make sure that we were translating, you know, the right way,

1014
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 4: because I knew what we were doing was important, you

1015
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, you feel me, And it was

1016
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 4: imperative that you know, like we were received, you know,

1017
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 4: and seeing in the right light. I mean, so that's

1018
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 4: kind of like me. I'm still like that to this day.

1019
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 4: But you know, you know, it's it's hard to know

1020
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: a lot without being seen as a know it all?

1021
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 4: Can you dig it? And I can be I can't.

1022
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 4: I can be a little controlling, but it's but it's

1023
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 4: always about the quality control, you know what I mean,

1024
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 4: as long as you know yeah, I know, I know,

1025
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 4: And it ends up being a louisence a little bit,

1026
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: but like it's for the greater good, you know what

1027
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: I mean, like just trying to make sure that we're good,

1028
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 4: appreciate product, see question, That's what you gotta be for

1029
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: the you know what I mean.

1030
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 6: I know that I know you can relate to that.

1031
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: I would say.

1032
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 5: So I kind of caught hell, uh a little hell

1033
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 5: on the on the on the internet. Couple out of

1034
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 5: a month or so ago. I did an interview me

1035
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 5: and Phoo, We did an interview with my man Piso

1036
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 5: h out of hip hop site out of Vegas.

1037
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

1038
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 5: Well, we just were naming our favorite records and they

1039
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 5: would play the records, you know what I'm saying. We

1040
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 5: talked about it, and so one of the records that

1041
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 5: Phoo named was at Lings, and so he brought up

1042
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 5: at Alings and we were talking about it what ever,

1043
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 5: and they got on me because I said, well, now

1044
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 5: is it time to admit And you don't have to

1045
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 5: weigh in on this, se Lop, but this was just

1046
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 5: my thought. Can we admit now that Soul Food was

1047
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 5: a better album than at Aliens?

1048
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: Oh my gods was hot?

1049
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 4: Okay?

1050
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: Right, you know what he was?

1051
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: And what I want to tell you, man, like specifically

1052
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: just to you as an MC, you know, And let

1053
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: me be clear, I love atl I mean that's a

1054
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: classic fucking record.

1055
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: Like I love that album. But for me the way

1056
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 3: I came into Goodie Mob when I bought that album.

1057
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 5: First off, and I've told this story show before, Like

1058
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 5: I actually broke the law to like get y'all's album.

1059
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 5: Like I drove, I ain't have no license, I'm driving

1060
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 5: to the Rex store to buy Soul Food.

1061
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 6: So I bought it.

1062
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 5: So so I bought it, you know, man. So like

1063
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 5: when I first heard Cell Therapy, it was that was

1064
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 5: kind of weird. I was like, Okay, I like this

1065
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 5: this is is kind of weird. And then the B

1066
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 5: sides I had the we had to single first and

1067
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 5: the B side was Soul Food on like the CD,

1068
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 5: you know, and so you had like Soul Food and

1069
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 5: I was like okay, like they say, I was like okay.

1070
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 5: But then when I heard when that ship opened up

1071
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 5: with you singing and then going into thought Process, I

1072
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 5: just thought that was just such a crazy like to

1073
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 5: open an album on such like, because most rap albums

1074
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 5: always started with like the hype that just hitting you

1075
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 5: over the head. To just go into something just so

1076
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 5: like slow and meditate like that ship was fucking haunting.

1077
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 4: Bro.

1078
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, this record, these niggas has got

1079
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: it and.

1080
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: So down I would throw it down and say that

1081
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: the day I got the CS Free, I'm sorry you

1082
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: was so Free was so to me.

1083
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: It was I was so jealous that we didn't create

1084
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 3: some ship like that.

1085
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: I think I spent a day listen to Free on

1086
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: loop before I even got pat.

1087
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 3: By day two, then I went to Thought Process like

1088
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: the whole rest of the record.

1089
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 5: But to me, oh man, that nah, that album, that shit,

1090
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 5: the setting it off like that was amazing.

1091
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 3: And so the thing for me was when I heard

1092
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: Soul Food, that was for me just as an MC.

1093
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 5: I never heard anybody be that honest, Betimes, I don't

1094
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 5: even know how I'm gonna eat by twenty dollars away

1095
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 5: from being on the street. I'm like, Damn, these niggas

1096
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 5: is really spitting that shit. And then like your verse

1097
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 5: on guests who like talking about your mom, Yeah, and

1098
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 5: just you know what I mean. So when I heard

1099
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 5: soul Food, I mean, by the time Atlings came around,

1100
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I liked at Aliens, but the initial punch,

1101
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 5: it kind of felt like y'all had beat them to

1102
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 5: the punch in terms of what I was looking for

1103
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 5: in the next Outcast album.

1104
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 3: Just the soul, the honesty, just every thing.

1105
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 4: For me to be, to be totally honest, I will

1106
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 4: say this, Our Cast has always been our flagship as

1107
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: far as Dungeon family is concerned, you know, but we

1108
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: had always been fundamentalist, you know, and an even more effective.

1109
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 6: Uh hypothetic.

1110
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: Well example is I've described it as this if if

1111
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 4: Dre and Big were Chuck and Flave, we were the

1112
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: s one w's yes, yes, you know what I'm saying.

1113
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 6: That that's that's the relationship, you know what I mean?

1114
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 4: Like even though me being and Dre are the same age,

1115
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 4: you know, and I was supposed to be an outcast originally,

1116
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 4: how hard.

1117
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: Is it to to sell this concept and this idea

1118
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: in your own hometown because image wise, you guys aren't

1119
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: aren't what an outsiders view would think of as traditional

1120
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: Atlanta hip hop, and yet you are, I mean, you're

1121
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: actually establishing it. Like how how open was the Atlanta

1122
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: natives into this concept?

1123
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 3: Was it like you guys are weirdos? Or was it

1124
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 3: like yeah, I feel that shit.

1125
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 4: Too, or like I'll say this, we were like the

1126
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: Zulu nation, you know what I mean, Like let's say

1127
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 4: when you know that Africa Bambada, you know what I

1128
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 4: mean that the souls on the forest were the black

1129
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 4: spades just prior you know what I mean? You feel

1130
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 4: me it was kind of like that. It's like, you know,

1131
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 4: everybody realized that we were using the opportunity for a

1132
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 4: greater good, were not relishing in you know, any of.

1133
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,959
Speaker 6: The wrongs that we were you know that we had done,

1134
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 6: you know.

1135
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: And that people knew it could have could have attested

1136
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 4: to like you know what I mean, you know, it's

1137
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 4: like damn, like you know, like if anything, we caught

1138
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: people by surprise because we were addressing uh, certain issues

1139
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 4: topically trivially, you know, I mean, like you know just

1140
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: trying to expound upon who we were, you know, like

1141
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 4: as artists and as individuals, as men, as black men,

1142
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 4: as as activists because I always say that we were

1143
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: fighting for the civil rights of southern hip hop at

1144
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 4: that time, you know what I mean? And you know,

1145
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 4: we recorded Soul Food in Curtis Mayfield's home studio, so

1146
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 4: our icons, you know, I mean, like they were alive

1147
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 4: and well, and we knew that they were watching, and

1148
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 4: we knew that we needed to do something with some

1149
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 4: reverence and some respects.

1150
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 5: On uh on the did you say Mayfield on the

1151
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 5: New World Order album? The one did you co write?

1152
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 5: One of those records?

1153
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 4: That? No, I didn't, but some of the stuff that

1154
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: I wrote it didn't really make it. But I was

1155
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 4: working at the time with with the O G.

1156
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 6: Cool Ace, you know what I mean?

1157
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 4: You feel me? Yeah?

1158
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 6: You so for those I gotta shout out kool Aids Man,

1159
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 6: kool Aids.

1160
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, cool as cool as was Gibbs lieutenant in the

1161
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 4: in the Nation of Islam early so, but then he

1162
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,959
Speaker 4: digressed and he became a bona fide pimp.

1163
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, how are you so that you just like?

1164
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: And then he said it makes sense.

1165
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 8: I was, you know, ordinary to see. I just wanted

1166
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 8: you know, that's normal.

1167
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 6: So so, but he's super duper, duper talented and I love. Hey,

1168
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 6: he's a good guy, you know what I mean.

1169
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: He's still around, He's still alive.

1170
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 4: He's still he's still around. He's like he's one of

1171
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 4: those dudes, like you know, he holds the amateur knights

1172
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 4: at the strip clubs and stuff like that.

1173
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 6: That's his state. But that's you know, that's not that's

1174
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 6: not even be condescended.

1175
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 4: That's where he wanted to be.

1176
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 6: That's his community.

1177
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 4: You know. It's like that's that's that's what he loved,

1178
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 4: That's what he loved to love, and that's what he

1179
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 4: want to be.

1180
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: You think that since you guys came out and such well,

1181
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: because Atlanta also is such like a large college town,

1182
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: not just in a sense of like the AUC but

1183
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: all the colleges there, do you think that that attributed

1184
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: to to some of the extra fantage that you had

1185
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: at home?

1186
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 4: It did, It did, and and everybody was at that

1187
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 4: time because I'll cast struck a chord because it had

1188
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 4: given Atlanta an identity, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1189
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 4: you know, kingos and you know guess gene shorts and

1190
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 4: pump Pum footies and Stan Smith. I don't know if

1191
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 4: y'all know what I'm saying. So it was that's how

1192
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 4: we dressed in Atlanta, you know what I mean. So

1193
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 4: they hit the nail on the head with the imaging.

1194
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 4: But you know, we we represented like an underbelly, you

1195
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like you know, you know, and

1196
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 4: an attitude, you know what I mean, Like an aggression

1197
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 4: I mean, and a progression you know, because again we

1198
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 4: felt like we needed to. We knew that we were

1199
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 4: in some regard like front lining. I mean, like you know,

1200
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 4: for for Southern hip hop to be counted, to be

1201
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 4: heard and to be respected. And so you know, I

1202
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 4: believe that Cell Therapy it won with with Atlanta because

1203
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 4: it won with New York first, you know what I mean.

1204
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 4: That's the record that got us into the tunnel and

1205
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 4: stuff like that, you know what I mean, Like and

1206
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: we out there, you know, freestyle and with the boot

1207
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 4: camp click and you know, as I got to get

1208
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 4: to meet all of them early, you know, Rock and

1209
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 4: Shine Price and you know the strange wonder, you know

1210
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 4: what I mean.

1211
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: Like I was going to ask if you had any

1212
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: opinion or reservations about New York Post that source moment

1213
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: for Outcast where the South had something to say.

1214
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 6: To be totally honest, can I tell you what I

1215
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 6: was distracted by.

1216
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,919
Speaker 4: I heard the booze, but I wasn't really tripping off

1217
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 4: of it, man, Like it was like suspended animation on

1218
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 4: that evening. You know, there was a lot of tension

1219
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 4: because of the East coast West coast thing, but US

1220
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 4: being neutral and us being acknowledged, you know enough to

1221
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 4: even have been there and been in the building. I

1222
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 4: was trying to riding high on that. I had gotten

1223
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 4: some outfit tailor made for it, and I'm saying that

1224
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna take something else that's really cool. Big

1225
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 4: Biggie Smalls was on our was one of our first supporters,

1226
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like he championed us, you

1227
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 4: know from the inception and off the top. Biggie Small's

1228
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 4: first shows were opening up for us in Atlanta, you

1229
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Puffy Puffy shot and directed players

1230
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 4: ball for Outcast. So we all started together almost signed

1231
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 4: a bad boy. Andre Horal was my mentor, and I

1232
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 4: mean like it has been like, you know, so resting

1233
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 4: soul so with that. I still remember vividly when we

1234
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 4: were walking up on that stage. I heard the boos

1235
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 4: in my perihew kind of hearing, but I got distracted

1236
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 4: by the sound of BIG's voice sitting right there on

1237
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 4: the front road saying yo, yo, see lo. You know

1238
01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, holl hollering at me, you know, and

1239
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 4: showing us love and letting us know that he that

1240
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 4: he rocking with us. And I remember outcast first show

1241
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 4: in New York. We all went together as a crew

1242
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 4: and we were performing. I think it was do you

1243
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 4: remember somebody named called Grandma Funk.

1244
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Grandma. I think, okay, you pulled the

1245
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: glass from the past, Grandma.

1246
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 4: So who's up there for Grandma Funk? Brod damn? So

1247
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 4: Big out. He showed me love because Big was right

1248
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 4: there in front of the stage, wrapping every word to

1249
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 4: get up, get out with me. You know what I'm saying.

1250
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 6: He showed me a lot of love.

1251
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 4: He showed me a lot of love. I was even

1252
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 4: invited me to be all ready to die. I don't

1253
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 4: really know what ever happened with that, what I'm saying, like,

1254
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 4: but I was completely naive and new to the game.

1255
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 4: I didn't even know what he was talking about because

1256
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 4: I didn't really know how to receive a don't even

1257
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 4: appreciate the invite because big wasn't big at that time,

1258
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 4: right you know what I mean? Yeah, this was, but

1259
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 4: he was just ready to die. Yeah, it's like Party

1260
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 4: in Bush and Who's the Who's the Man? Soundtrack?

1261
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 3: That was a slow burn man.

1262
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 5: It wasn't like a record that just did big numbers

1263
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 5: out the gate, like absolutely minute.

1264
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're absolutely right, you know what I mean, Like

1265
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 4: because I didn't even really like partying bullshit all of

1266
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: the way, like I liked, uh the house Opainian record

1267
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 4: off that soundtrack? Right, Uh?

1268
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 3: He was Who's the band Who?

1269
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 4: Because I was I was still.

1270
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 6: Around that time.

1271
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 3: DJ Muggs.

1272
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, DJ Muggs, So thats what's up? It's safe?

1273
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah that Joints. Y'all got a record on the

1274
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: I love that record, y'all did joint?

1275
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 4: I see them the first homies that took us in

1276
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 4: when we went to l A. So we all got

1277
01:06:54,720 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 4: tagged from cartoon you know. So you know that that's

1278
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 4: why we be really down with the brown and black,

1279
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like making sure we keep

1280
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 4: the peace and we advocates of that because they they

1281
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 4: showed us nothing. Beloved. Man be Real just did a

1282
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 4: song recently with Kujo on one of his independent projects,

1283
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 4: So the love is still there. It's for main man

1284
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 4: almost thirty years. Man.

1285
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 3: It was a producer y'all had on Soul Food that

1286
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 3: I never saw on anything else.

1287
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 4: Mix Well, you know, we're in the process of doing

1288
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 4: another Goodie Marvel album right now as we speak, actually,

1289
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 4: and it's funny that quest even asked that that question

1290
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 4: of how we get songs done, and it's you know,

1291
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 4: it's tedious, and I'm saying, you know, because like you know,

1292
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 4: we're older sing like you know, like you know, everybody's entitled,

1293
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like you feel me. But

1294
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 4: it's always been that kind of combustible kind of thing,

1295
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 4: you know what i mean, Like you know, but Mixo

1296
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 4: mix so was he was Kujo and Timo's original producer.

1297
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 4: So he was producing the Lumberjacks, okay, and you know,

1298
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 4: they had a other couple of dope songs that it

1299
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 4: was supposed to make the album, but they were in

1300
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 4: in a legal suit with their former management and they

1301
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 4: couldn't use that material. So you know, everybody just wanted

1302
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 4: to honor mient So because of that sound. And I

1303
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 4: just spoke to him the other day. I said, man, dude,

1304
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 4: you're the only other producer besides Organized Noise who made

1305
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,919
Speaker 4: that original one the o G I said, So therefore,

1306
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 4: you know, because I bumped into him and I was like, yo, man,

1307
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 4: we gotta we got to get on the same page.

1308
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 4: I got to get you back in the mix, man, like,

1309
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 4: it's only right that we acknowledge you. And he was dope,

1310
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 4: I mean, like he reminds his stuff will remind you

1311
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 4: of Rizza, all dark and dusty and like just dope.

1312
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 4: I mean, like, you know, so you know big Wu

1313
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 4: Tang fan over here too, and people liking us, to

1314
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 4: the people liking us to the Southern Wu Tang and

1315
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 4: all of that.

1316
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: Ps I just thought something, y'all, we need to put

1317
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: a bookmark on when the Goodie Mob album comes out,

1318
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: because Feo, you don't know this, but we had been

1319
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 2: planning a trip to Atlanta to just grab everybody for

1320
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: question free, like we was gonna Rico, we was gonna

1321
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 2: see Drama.

1322
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 8: We was just gonna see everybody. But you know, considering

1323
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 8: the time I'm like, well, maybe when that.

1324
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: Album comes out, we'll all be able to come out

1325
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,799
Speaker 2: the house and get the whole goodie help.

1326
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: And touring with that record, which is the first time

1327
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: that we uh toured together, explain that process because.

1328
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 3: You guys used the band.

1329
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: You guys used, Uh, I'm enjoyed with singing with y'all

1330
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: at that point, Like, yep, you guys have a Little

1331
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: John in the Chronicle as as your band, Like were

1332
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: you guys always presented in kind of like I saw

1333
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: y'all as almost like new p funk yall put it together.

1334
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 4: That's funny that you said that. Well, we we got

1335
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 4: introduced to Little John in the Chronicle because we did.

1336
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 4: I think we did like maybe like a listing party

1337
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 4: or once or a release party at a club called

1338
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 4: Kaya back then.

1339
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 8: As Frank Ski. Sorry, you know what I'm.

1340
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 4: Saying, shouts out to Frank Ski and and the Chronicle

1341
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 4: was the band and it just kind of went over

1342
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 4: so well, you know, it just I'm sure that there

1343
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 4: was management that suggested it at that time. You know

1344
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 4: that we kind of go in the live direction and

1345
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 4: you know, and you know that was all good. And

1346
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 4: then you know, George Clinton speaking of Parliament. He was

1347
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 4: one of our earlier mentors and supporters too. He's the

1348
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 4: one that christened the Dungeon family as the young Parliament

1349
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 4: for Padelics. So when you start seeing us breaking out

1350
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 4: with all of the outfits and stuff like that, it

1351
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 4: came from him, you know what I'm saying, Because he

1352
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 4: because he said, you can't just say you're to an exceptional.

1353
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 4: You have to be exceptional. That's why they call it

1354
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 4: a fashion statement. If you if you can speak there,

1355
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 4: then you can say less. You know what I'm saying. Ship, Yeah,

1356
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 4: and we went, we went, and obviously we went wild

1357
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 4: with that. Yeah.

1358
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, for your the second album for

1359
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 5: Still Standing, what happened with what?

1360
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 3: I got ques by that album?

1361
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 5: So they don't dance no more? I love that fucking song,

1362
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 5: What what Happened with Little Will?

1363
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 4: Okay? So uh, they don't dance? The version that you

1364
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 4: hear is a replay, but the original version was done

1365
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 4: with the sample of Aaron Smith's dream On, So that's

1366
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 4: what that is. It's really dream On right. So Little

1367
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 4: Will was a hoodster, you know what I mean, Like

1368
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 4: you know around Atlanta, super duper talented, you know what

1369
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 4: I mean like great voice, and he was signed to

1370
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 4: Organized Noise's label, Imprint at Interscope Organized Noise Records, and

1371
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 4: you know it was just it was just circumstance and

1372
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 4: inexperience that kind of overshadowed. I mean, like all of

1373
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 4: the promise and potential that he had as an artist.

1374
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 4: But like I just saw him recently, maybe like a

1375
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 4: year ago. I had a birthday uh party out here,

1376
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 4: and he'll still hit my line every now and again.

1377
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 4: But like he's just a real one, you know what

1378
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Like you know, you know because he's he's

1379
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 4: that's him singing so you know Gucci Man and and

1380
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 4: and Jez's first breakout record together, so Icy, that's Little

1381
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 4: Will singing the record, singing the hook. So you know,

1382
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 4: we we're responsible for a lot of careers man, you know,

1383
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 4: like and you know he's forever done.

1384
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 5: Your family on the record on still Standing just about over?

1385
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,480
Speaker 5: Was that U was that David Wild that Wild Peach.

1386
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 6: David and Wild Peach rest in peace to this Peach.

1387
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 3: Yeah is still.

1388
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah Dave David still whenever Big go while and he

1389
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 4: take the band, he takes he takes uh, he take

1390
01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 4: Peach and he take Deborah killers with him.

1391
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 5: He's always kept them, That's what's up.

1392
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's so solent for that.

1393
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 3: Well you answered my gutter butter question. But also.

1394
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: I remember like up in Philly, like Beautiful Skin was

1395
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: also it for for every coffee shop joint I knew.

1396
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wound up on their mixtapes for World Party.

1397
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: Was what was the chemistry with you guys in the

1398
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: making of that album that was different from the first

1399
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: two records.

1400
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 6: Well, I tell you this, you know what I mean,

1401
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 6: Like it's never a problem.

1402
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 4: You know, I could, I can rhyme cat and hat,

1403
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, you know, so like I

1404
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 4: can I can just still be you know, I could

1405
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,759
Speaker 4: just still come in and just do you know whatever

1406
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 4: we're doing what I'm saying, you know, but let me try,

1407
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 4: let me try, let me try to, let me try

1408
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 4: to give it some poetic justice, you know. I you know,

1409
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 4: it's it's documented that I had a great disdain for

1410
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 4: that project because you know, you know, even though we

1411
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 4: were we were marginally you know, successful, you know at

1412
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 4: that point, you know, two consecutive gold records, you know it,

1413
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 4: It's it's only right, I mean, like that you want

1414
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 4: to go to the next natural progression and you know,

1415
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 4: like you know, and shoot for high and mark you

1416
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1417
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 6: Like so like you know, I think you know, and

1418
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 6: I know that that was the ambition for the label, which.

1419
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 4: Is why for that for that third and you know

1420
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 4: project with them and final project with them, it's the

1421
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 4: one where they wanted to come in and interject with

1422
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 4: their opinion about direction, you know, and things.

1423
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: Can I get rich to this the last song recorded

1424
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: for that record?

1425
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, thank you.

1426
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 4: I it was. It definitely wasn't And I'm gonna tell

1427
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 4: you why because it wasn't even our record.

1428
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 3: It was bad.

1429
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 4: It was a what why That's what. That's why Backbones

1430
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 4: versus first and he's doing the hook. It was his record.

1431
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 4: It should have it would have been a hit for

1432
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 4: him because Backboners, you know, the Dungeon family was comprised

1433
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 4: of you know, you know, teachers and philosophers and you know,

1434
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 4: the hustlers and killer every everybody, you know, all that

1435
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 4: shit came with it them saying, you know, but you

1436
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 4: know he was you know, Backboners. When I on our

1437
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 4: real live bone offire hustlers that come out that come

1438
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 4: out of the out of the crew that really represent

1439
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 4: on the street side, you know, I mean like and

1440
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 4: we needed that to make sure that all of the

1441
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 4: all of the bases were covered, you know what I'm saying.

1442
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 4: So that would have been that would have been a

1443
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 4: great record for him, this as a solo record. But

1444
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 4: it was so hot or so we thought, you know

1445
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 4: what I mean that, you know, it was organized noise

1446
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 4: is you know, decision to say, hey, we're gonna go

1447
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 4: take that record if they use the platform, you know,

1448
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 4: a goodie mob, you know, to propel you or your

1449
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 4: solo effort.

1450
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 6: Shortly thereafter, I'm saying, you feel me?

1451
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, you know I didn't fit like fitde.

1452
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 4: It wasn't people. People were so disappointed and I knew it.

1453
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 4: I mean, like, if you want to go back and

1454
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 4: dig up any of those bones, you'll see I said

1455
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 4: it out loud. I was very playing, very I was

1456
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 4: very frank, you know, I mean about my disconnect with it.

1457
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 4: And Mom was like, man, that's not what the what

1458
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 4: the people want. And hey man, you know like, but hey,

1459
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 4: if we win, then we win. I say, you feel me.

1460
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 6: Like if we don't, I'm gonna move on.

1461
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 4: I say, you feel me.

1462
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 3: Technically. I mean the album went cold, it did better.

1463
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 4: It's so it's so more represented than any other other ones,

1464
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 4: than the other joints.

1465
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 3: Okay, so, and it still didn't feel like a win

1466
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 3: to you.

1467
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 4: Well, but see, like I guess at that time, quest

1468
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 4: Man real, really bro I wasn't.

1469
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 6: Even really money conscious and none of that I wouldn't.

1470
01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 4: I wasn't.

1471
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 6: I wasn't chipping off under that.

1472
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 4: I was just about trying to make history, and everything

1473
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 4: I was doing was for the glory, you know what

1474
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1475
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 6: That's how I saw it.

1476
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 4: I consider myself a real, live revolutionary, you know what

1477
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 4: I mean? Like, you know, that's what I wanted to

1478
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 4: live and die for. What I'm saying, you feel me

1479
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 4: it would have been an honor. I mean like, so

1480
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 4: that was my my logic. And and now in retrospect,

1481
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 4: you know, you know, I sometimes I feel disappointed. I

1482
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 4: feel like I don't know, I'm.

1483
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 6: Forty five years old. I survived.

1484
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 4: I mean maybe maybe I didn't, Maybe I didn't cause

1485
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 4: enough damage or something, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1486
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 4: I feel like that, you know what I'm saying. Is

1487
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 4: that real? For me to say?

1488
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 8: No, that was something when your career started with like

1489
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 8: self therapy.

1490
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1491
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 4: So, like I look around at what we're living through

1492
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 4: right now, I'm like, God, damn, you don't think that.

1493
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 2: You make you you a influenced and especially some of

1494
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 2: these these young you know, protests and revolutionaries coming up.

1495
01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 8: You don't think you the soundtrack today?

1496
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 6: Oh most most certainly, most certainly, I raised over a

1497
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 6: thousand sons.

1498
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure that.

1499
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 8: That's all I'm saying, you know, And I'm proud of that.

1500
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 4: And now I'm a declarated soldier, you know, and higher

1501
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 4: ranking officer, like you mean, like you know, so like

1502
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 4: I'm gracious, I'm gracious and very humble, you know what

1503
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 4: i mean. But I'm just saying like it's just a passion,

1504
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But and and you know,

1505
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 4: of course I mean it on an on an artistic front.

1506
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 4: I mean, like you know that's how I mean it,

1507
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I just want to do that

1508
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 4: ship that last I mean, like you know, you know,

1509
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to do I don't want

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Speaker 4: to do anything disposable or forgettable or whatever.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, records, I like the dip I thought like

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Speaker 3: you as a producer. That was the one.

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Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, this is I thought, And I

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01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 4: tell you the truth about the broke. Tim Mo produced

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01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 4: the dip and he was starting to he was starting

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Speaker 4: to ventru but no, like I came in and I

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01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 4: did all those string arrangements and stuff like that, and uh,

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01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 4: you know, and you know, so we were growing and

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01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 4: so like, you know, I wanted all of that exuberant

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like over the top stuff

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Speaker 4: that I ultimately went on to do. You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, You feel me, But like you know, it's

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Speaker 4: it's almost like people that that that start with you.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: I hate to say it like this, but it's like

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01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,839
Speaker 6: people either almost either want you to be or expect

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01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 6: you to be like poor righteous teachers. And I'm not

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01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 6: just talking about the group. I mean literally, it's like

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Speaker 6: it's like no, but I'm like but in my mind,

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Speaker 6: I'm like, nah, like I'm too, I'm too, I'm too

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01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 6: intelligent about music and about industry. It's like I know

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Speaker 6: better what I'm saying, Like if you guys and at

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01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 6: that time, you know, Cash Money and No Limit records.

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Speaker 4: They were coming in and then they were showing how

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01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 4: to they were just they were they outworked everybody. Their output,

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01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like was just immense, Like

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01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 4: you know, you couldn't really compete. The motherfuckers was dropping

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01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,440
Speaker 4: so much music, you know what I'm saying, Like they dropped.

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Speaker 3: With all the albums coming out.

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Speaker 4: That that changed the lexicon to where you know, they

1541
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 4: dropped so much material that you could even call it

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01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 4: music in the morning, you have to call it content.

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01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 3: It was product. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So we couldn't you know, we were still trying to

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01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 4: make opuses and stuff like that, So we were taking

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01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 4: two and three years to make an.

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Speaker 6: Album and shit like that.

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Speaker 4: But like no, no, no, So we really couldn't compete,

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01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 4: and so I think everybody just felt a certain kind

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01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 4: of way. It really just wanted to be competitive at

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01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 4: the end of the day, and showed that we want

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01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 4: this straight laced button up you know, like quartette of

1553
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 4: squares or you know what I mean. Like you know,

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01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 4: like that we were cool and we liked women, and

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01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 4: we you know, we liked the party.

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Speaker 6: And other and other kind of stuff, which was true,

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01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 6: like like some of the biggest parties out there.

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Speaker 2: At the time the earth the earthy label was on

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01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 2: folks too. It was like, either yeah you shiny, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep. Sorry, you knew it was coming. You

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01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:54,759
Speaker 3: guys knew it was coming.

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Speaker 1: You knew I was going to interrupt this moment to say.

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Speaker 1: That's the conclusion of part one of our interview with

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Speaker 1: Celo Green. We'll come back next week for part two

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Speaker 1: of our interview with Celo Green, and trust me, Part two,

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Speaker 1: we really get into it.

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01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 3: We get into everything. Whereas life has.

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Speaker 1: Been lessons, he's learned, journeys he's going to make, and basically,

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01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, we get into it. So please join us

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Speaker 1: next week, ladies and gentlemen for part two of our

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Speaker 1: interview I Want to Know me Legendary Celo Green.

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Speaker 3: See you next week.

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