WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 22 0:00:01.230 --> 0:00:05.189 Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst, 0:00:05.390 --> 0:00:08.690 where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest 0:00:08.730 --> 0:00:12.610 sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst. 0:00:13.490 --> 0:00:14.610 Not So Fast, my friends. 0:00:16.950 --> 0:00:18.090 Welcome to Not So Fast. 0:00:18.150 --> 0:00:18.910 I'm Andrew Perloff. 0:00:18.970 --> 0:00:19.970 He's Paul Pabst. 0:00:20.090 --> 0:00:23.750 We are still in the baseball portion of the Man Cave, 0:00:24.090 --> 0:00:25.090 and it's October 1st. 0:00:25.820 --> 0:00:28.220 The greatest month in sports, Paul. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:29.920 Yeah, it's not really up for debate. And let me 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:31.680 give you some bonus coverage before we get to the 0:00:31.700 --> 0:00:36.430 MLB playoffs. Starting tonight, 61 straight days of college football 0:00:36.510 --> 0:00:38.470 or NFL. And it ends December 3rd. I don't know 0:00:38.490 --> 0:00:40.330 what's going on there. We've got to find a game 0:00:40.350 --> 0:00:43.290 to put December 3rd. But 61 straight days of college 0:00:43.310 --> 0:00:44.010 or pro football. 0:00:44.050 --> 0:00:44.290 Love it. 0:00:44.310 --> 0:00:44.630 Wow. 0:00:45.030 --> 0:00:49.100 Okay, well, obviously, yesterday we had baseball. Let's start with 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.440 the Yankees-Red Sox. Yankees blow out the Red Sox two 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.560 straight games. Who are these guys on the Yankees are hitting? 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:56.970 I did not expect this at all. 0:00:57.010 --> 0:00:59.990 Yeah, two rookies, George Lombard, Spencer Jones. I think what 0:01:00.330 --> 0:01:02.430 the vibe is when you go into that Yankees series, 0:01:02.730 --> 0:01:05.390 I think the national coverage was about Aaron Judge being gone. 0:01:05.750 --> 0:01:08.160 But then I looked at the local coverage. They were 0:01:08.230 --> 0:01:10.100 much more confident going into the game. And if you 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.390 look at what they did, You allowed Aaron Judge to 0:01:12.430 --> 0:01:14.010 get a couple more days rest and be ready for 0:01:14.030 --> 0:01:14.610 the next series. 0:01:14.790 --> 0:01:16.789 I wonder, though, are they getting a little too confident 0:01:16.830 --> 0:01:19.010 about some of these bottom of the lineup guys? You know, 0:01:19.030 --> 0:01:21.350 they're facing the Rays a much deeper rotation than the 0:01:21.410 --> 0:01:21.850 Red Sox. 0:01:21.890 --> 0:01:22.810 Is this going to continue? 0:01:22.830 --> 0:01:24.919 But you know the theory. Rookies don't know any better. 0:01:25.030 --> 0:01:26.600 They don't know that they're rookies. They don't know that 0:01:26.620 --> 0:01:28.140 they're on the Yankees and not supposed to be this 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.840 good this early. Like the catcher for the Padres is 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.960 20 years old. But I think that the Yankees have 0:01:32.980 --> 0:01:35.020 to be obviously in great shape. But not just great 0:01:35.060 --> 0:01:37.959 shape is that you can win without your star. And 0:01:38.140 --> 0:01:39.980 a team like the Dodgers can win without their star. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:41.880 But the Red Sox, that was a no-show. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.820 Yeah, again, you can beat one team in the wild card. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:45.559 We'll see. We'll see. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.820 Okay, I think the game of the day, down in Atlanta, 0:01:48.900 --> 0:01:52.470 the Phillies beat the Braves. It was harrowing. Of course, 0:01:52.510 --> 0:01:55.190 I'm a Phillies fan. Tough day, but I got through it. 0:01:55.330 --> 0:01:58.490 That was almost awful. Bryce Harper had that misjudged fly 0:01:58.530 --> 0:02:00.770 ball in the middle innings. And when that went over 0:02:00.810 --> 0:02:02.720 his head, Phillies fans were like, that's it. 0:02:02.890 --> 0:02:03.250 It's over. 0:02:03.270 --> 0:02:05.230 It's not going to work out. If you watch his play, 0:02:05.790 --> 0:02:08.260 he just took one step in, one step out, and 0:02:08.300 --> 0:02:10.760 got frozen. And after that, you're like, this is how 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.440 it's going to end. This is how his offseason is 0:02:12.460 --> 0:02:12.840 going to be. 0:02:13.340 --> 0:02:13.980 Oh, absolutely. 0:02:14.060 --> 0:02:16.579 But every Phillies fan knows Bryce Harper should not be 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.520 in right field because he should be at first base, 0:02:19.580 --> 0:02:20.940 but he moved to help the team. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.750 Bryce Harper has his detractors, but he is a team guy. 0:02:25.270 --> 0:02:26.730 So I don't think people are going to kill him 0:02:26.770 --> 0:02:29.490 as much as nationally they might because it did look ridiculous. 0:02:29.510 --> 0:02:31.250 It's one of those plays that if the game ends 0:02:31.310 --> 0:02:33.450 there or they don't make the comeback with his home 0:02:33.490 --> 0:02:36.590 run and Schwarber's home run, that play is the entire offseason. 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:39.220 I think so, but with Bryce Harper and the Phillies, 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.640 they just want him healthy and out there. There was 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.000 a lot of sort of backroom and a little bit 0:02:44.100 --> 0:02:46.600 on-air discussion today, Paul, about Bryce Harper. 0:02:46.620 --> 0:02:48.680 You want to clue people in what was going on? 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:50.760 Yeah, Dylan earlier on the Dan Patrick Show said, is 0:02:50.820 --> 0:02:52.989 Bryce Harper a Hall of Famer? And he threw it 0:02:53.010 --> 0:02:55.190 out there kind of out of nowhere. And Bryce Harper, 0:02:55.210 --> 0:02:57.350 I think, is 33. He's got at least five years 0:02:57.389 --> 0:02:59.829 left on his contract. But I guess if you stopped 0:02:59.850 --> 0:03:02.430 what he did today, I think we're in year 15, 0:03:02.430 --> 0:03:04.380 is he a Hall of Famer? I think I know 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.040 your answer, but go ahead. The floor is yours. 0:03:06.419 --> 0:03:06.880 Well, you know what? 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.280 I don't know if they could pull it up. Forget 0:03:08.340 --> 0:03:11.260 my answer. Let's talk about, I don't know, Harold Reynolds, 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.280 who is a great baseball player. He weighed in on 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.869 this after Dan asked him, is Bryce Harper a Hall 0:03:16.889 --> 0:03:17.310 of Famer? 0:03:19.669 --> 0:03:23.030 No doubt about it. No doubt. No doubt. 0:03:25.910 --> 0:03:29.540 That was pretty succinct, and I agree completely. First ballot, 0:03:29.580 --> 0:03:29.919 Hall of Fame. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.100 Okay, a couple nuances here. I think he's going to 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:33.840 go to the Hall of Fame some day. But if 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.480 you look at his rise to become a phenom, I 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.400 don't think it matches what he did on the field. 0:03:39.460 --> 0:03:41.320 I think he had three great years, a bunch of 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.260 good years, and then he had some seasons where he 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:46.470 hit like 248 and 22 home runs. And he was 0:03:46.510 --> 0:03:49.550 a top five MVP candidate twice. Now, he won both 0:03:49.590 --> 0:03:52.010 those years, but he had too many average years. And 0:03:52.030 --> 0:03:54.130 it's almost like a running back running for 1,000 yards. 0:03:54.510 --> 0:03:56.830 It's not greatness. And I'm going to compare him to 0:03:57.150 --> 0:04:00.030 Paul Goldschmidt. Paul Goldschmidt is a player you're like, oh, yeah, 0:04:00.050 --> 0:04:00.570 he was a good hitter. 0:04:00.590 --> 0:04:00.670 Yeah. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.140 But Paul Goldschmidt has no name recognition, no household name, 0:04:04.180 --> 0:04:06.660 no juice, no buzz. He was not a phenom. Their 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.600 stats for their first 15 years are almost identical. Paul 0:04:09.620 --> 0:04:11.440 Goldschmidt's not a first ballot Hall of Famer, and he 0:04:11.490 --> 0:04:14.450 shouldn't be. He'll probably sneak in someday. Bryce Harper's getting 0:04:14.510 --> 0:04:17.089 in because of the aura around him and a very 0:04:17.130 --> 0:04:17.589 good career. 0:04:18.270 --> 0:04:21.230 I completely disagree. I mean, first of all, he's much 0:04:21.270 --> 0:04:23.650 younger than Paul Goldschmidt. He's already got as many more 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:24.260 home runs. 0:04:24.070 --> 0:04:26.320 Than Paul Goldschmidt. And Paul Goldschmidt, that's kind of all 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:27.300 he does is hit home runs. 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.540 Okay, his batting average is better. There are a lot 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:31.020 of stats. 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.630 Again, I'm going to have to nerd out here. Bryce 0:04:33.670 --> 0:04:36.969 Harper is a get-walks guy. He led the entire league. 0:04:36.790 --> 0:04:37.609 In walks this year, Paul. 0:04:37.630 --> 0:04:38.990 You can't walk your way into the Hall of Fame. 0:04:39.029 --> 0:04:39.710 He's walking his way. 0:04:39.770 --> 0:04:44.150 He's probably Juan Soto's great at, too. Bryce Harper, he 0:04:44.170 --> 0:04:46.760 had the 10th highest OBP in the whole league, and. 0:04:46.710 --> 0:04:47.400 He had an off year. 0:04:47.620 --> 0:04:49.779 He had a better on-base percentage than Shohei Otani. He 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.160 gets on base because he walks. 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.880 Paul Goldschmidt. I can't believe we're discussing Goldschmidt versus Harper, 0:04:53.900 --> 0:04:59.130 but 390 home runs to Harper's 392. 286 to Harper's, 279. 0:04:59.130 --> 0:05:02.799 Four gold gloves, zero for Harper. Silver slugger, five for Goldschmidt, 0:05:02.940 --> 0:05:05.700 four for Bryce Harper. War, which I don't understand, but 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:09.490 smart people like you do. War for Paul Goldschmidt, 65, 0:05:09.490 --> 0:05:11.030 56 for Bryce Harper. 0:05:11.050 --> 0:05:13.409 Yeah, but by the time Bryce Harper's his age, he'll 0:05:13.430 --> 0:05:14.010 be way above that. 0:05:14.130 --> 0:05:16.790 So here's the other question. The graphic up there said 0:05:16.850 --> 0:05:17.930 first ballot Hall of Fame. 0:05:17.930 --> 0:05:19.510 100%. 0:05:19.510 --> 0:05:21.350 All right, that's where it actually bothers me a little 0:05:21.370 --> 0:05:23.290 bit because Bryce Harper is, I don't think, even close 0:05:23.710 --> 0:05:23.970 to that. 0:05:23.990 --> 0:05:24.589 He's 33. 0:05:24.589 --> 0:05:27.469 Paul, he's at 392. He's definitely going to get 500. 0:05:27.470 --> 0:05:29.060 Do you think he's going to get better in the 0:05:29.070 --> 0:05:29.620 next five years? 0:05:29.650 --> 0:05:32.159 Do you think Bryce Harper's not? 500 home runs and 0:05:32.260 --> 0:05:35.299 two MVPs and tons. You know, I have a stat. 0:05:35.500 --> 0:05:37.760 He has the highest OPS for one team in the 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.480 postseason of any current player. The only two players historically 0:05:41.540 --> 0:05:43.440 above him are Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig. 0:05:43.730 --> 0:05:45.599 He's an incredible. Incredible playoff player. 0:05:45.700 --> 0:05:47.680 Maybe this is wrong of me, but I say first 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.740 ballot for Albert Pujols, for Mike Trout, for maybe Otani. 0:05:52.100 --> 0:05:54.230 The guys where it's like there is zero doubt. There's 0:05:54.250 --> 0:05:55.790 not even a discussion. Stamp it. 0:05:55.930 --> 0:05:56.330 Move on. 0:05:56.610 --> 0:05:59.550 Like if you look at Pujols' first 10 years, he 0:05:59.630 --> 0:06:02.490 was top five for MVP nine out of his first 0:06:02.490 --> 0:06:04.890 10 years. It's galactic. Same with Trout. Same with Griffey. 0:06:05.290 --> 0:06:07.030 And it's nothing against Bryce Harper. And I think I'm 0:06:07.110 --> 0:06:10.450 skewed by the expectations with the cover of SI. It's 0:06:10.470 --> 0:06:11.800 just it was a very good career. 0:06:12.339 --> 0:06:13.100 Oh, my God. 0:06:13.100 --> 0:06:16.830 500 home runs and two MVPs. If that's not first ballot, 0:06:16.850 --> 0:06:18.330 you're not going to have a lot of first ballots. 0:06:18.410 --> 0:06:19.690 I mean, two MVPs is hard to win. 0:06:19.730 --> 0:06:19.930 I know. 0:06:20.250 --> 0:06:22.290 I think Dale Murphy did not get in with two MVPs. 0:06:22.330 --> 0:06:24.270 I was shocked by that. I still don't understand that. 0:06:24.290 --> 0:06:26.670 I think it's one of the dumbest omissions of all time. 0:06:27.010 --> 0:06:30.529 But Harper also incredible. Does popularity play into it? Because 0:06:31.190 --> 0:06:32.229 the jersey still sells. 0:06:32.370 --> 0:06:34.940 Image star power. He feels like a superstar. He feels 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:35.660 like a Hall of Famer. 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.260 By the way, he would have won a third MVP, 0:06:37.300 --> 0:06:38.719 but he got hurt halfway through the season. 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.060 He was having a great year. We're going to get 0:06:40.100 --> 0:06:42.370 back to this. Hit us up not so fast on 0:06:42.410 --> 0:06:44.790 Twitter with your opinion on this because clearly we don't agree. 0:06:45.370 --> 0:06:48.250 Cubs no-showed versus the Padres. The Padres and their fans 0:06:48.290 --> 0:06:51.620 showed up. The Cubs hit 129 in the series. Pete 0:06:51.660 --> 0:06:53.460 Crowe Armstrong, he's not going to be in a good 0:06:53.500 --> 0:06:55.719 mood the day he gets his MVP award. He was 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.200 0 for 7. And what makes it even worse for 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.980 a Cub fan is that hours before the White Sox 0:07:02.100 --> 0:07:04.640 advance in the playoffs. The White Sox, who had zero 0:07:04.690 --> 0:07:07.229 expectations this year, are in the playoffs, and the Cubs 0:07:07.270 --> 0:07:08.250 are sitting at home this week. 0:07:08.270 --> 0:07:09.830 Well, break it down for me. You're from Chicago. 0:07:10.350 --> 0:07:12.350 Do they get mad when one team is doing better 0:07:12.370 --> 0:07:14.510 than the other? Because in New York, for example, nobody 0:07:14.570 --> 0:07:18.110 cares what the Nets do. The Knicks fans are completely oblivious. 0:07:18.350 --> 0:07:20.190 I think a Cubs fan, or I should say a 0:07:20.210 --> 0:07:22.110 White Sox fan, always in that town feels like a 0:07:22.150 --> 0:07:25.860 second-class citizen. They don't get the coverage nationally, especially locally, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.380 even more so. And now White Sox fans are like, scoreboard, 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.220 we're playing next week. We're going to have a home 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:31.580 game next week. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:32.820 So they do compete with the Cubs fans. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:33.200 Totally. 0:07:33.460 --> 0:07:36.700 And I'd say it's more for relevancy than wins-losses. But 0:07:36.740 --> 0:07:38.700 the White Sox advance, the last time they were this 0:07:38.750 --> 0:07:40.750 deep was... 05 World Series. 0:07:41.020 --> 0:07:42.730 I feel like the Clippers could be in game six 0:07:42.770 --> 0:07:45.290 of the NBA Finals and the radio calls would be 0:07:45.350 --> 0:07:46.070 about the Lakers. 0:07:46.210 --> 0:07:47.870 And the White Sox, the one thing about the White Sox, 0:07:47.950 --> 0:07:50.370 they have very little star power on their roster. There's 0:07:50.390 --> 0:07:52.050 not a lot of household names where a comedy is 0:07:52.090 --> 0:07:54.450 really getting there, but they're like two most famous fans 0:07:54.530 --> 0:07:56.190 is a former president and a sitting pope. 0:07:56.930 --> 0:07:57.570 That's pretty cool. 0:07:57.650 --> 0:07:59.670 That's not bad. All right, let's turn to football. 0:07:59.850 --> 0:08:03.830 Last night in the wee hours, Steelers trade Joey Porter Jr. 0:08:03.850 --> 0:08:07.350 To Dallas. Now, Joey Porter Jr. had been injured or 0:08:07.410 --> 0:08:08.410 holding out or something. 0:08:08.590 --> 0:08:09.170 Yeah, combo. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.300 And now he's traded Dallas, second round pick in two years. 0:08:14.020 --> 0:08:15.620 Let's look at it from a Dallas standpoint. What was 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:16.800 your reaction for the Cowboys? 0:08:16.820 --> 0:08:18.560 I love this for the Cowboys. You add a guy 0:08:18.620 --> 0:08:20.860 who's a quality starter, if he's not the best player 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.300 in the world, but you didn't give up a lot 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.940 for him. A second round draft pick, you're getting a 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.160 guy who's better than that draft pick. And their defensive 0:08:28.180 --> 0:08:31.510 backs aren't that good. Their run defense is better. All 0:08:31.550 --> 0:08:33.470 hands on deck. And I think this is also about, 0:08:33.910 --> 0:08:35.710 it's almost like you see the state of their division change. 0:08:36.290 --> 0:08:38.120 The Eagles don't seem like a Super Bowl team, a 0:08:38.150 --> 0:08:42.300 good team. And Washington's middling around, and the Giants are bad. 0:08:42.500 --> 0:08:44.500 Why not go all in, as Jerry Jones likes to say? 0:08:44.620 --> 0:08:46.700 That point is true. And also, Jerry Jones is not 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.440 a young man. It's time to go all in. 0:08:48.500 --> 0:08:50.179 Yeah, he's not building for the future. 0:08:50.420 --> 0:08:52.959 But I have a question. So they trade Micah Parsons, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.740 and they said, we're going to do things differently. We're 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.520 going to build a foundational defense, and we're going to 0:08:57.540 --> 0:08:58.420 have a lot of good guys. 0:08:58.440 --> 0:08:58.560 Right. 0:08:58.900 --> 0:09:00.730 And now they get Joey Porter Jr. 0:09:00.750 --> 0:09:03.729 They're probably going to pay him $ 35 million. 0:09:03.290 --> 0:09:04.490 A year after the season. 0:09:04.590 --> 0:09:05.090 After the season. 0:09:05.130 --> 0:09:07.510 Their entire team is free agents. They have all these 0:09:07.730 --> 0:09:10.420 named free agents, Quinn and Williams, that are paying. I 0:09:10.460 --> 0:09:12.580 don't understand what Dallas is doing in the sense that 0:09:12.660 --> 0:09:14.340 the entire team is going to be a free agent 0:09:14.380 --> 0:09:14.840 after this year. 0:09:14.860 --> 0:09:16.360 They're going to have some tough choices. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.119 And if you gave up a second-round pick for a 0:09:19.140 --> 0:09:21.680 player that they're not going to re-sign, then it becomes 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:22.500 a questionable deal. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.140 Yeah, if it doesn't work out on the field, it 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.540 becomes a loss. If he plays well, you're glad to 0:09:26.580 --> 0:09:28.120 give him the contract. Are you, though? 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.540 I mean, how many contracts are Dallas going to give out? 0:09:30.580 --> 0:09:33.470 They already paid Dak. They paid Quentin Williams. They're going 0:09:33.490 --> 0:09:36.350 to pay C.D., George Pickens. I don't think they're going 0:09:36.370 --> 0:09:37.510 to be able to afford Joey Porter long-term. 0:09:37.530 --> 0:09:39.189 I don't know that they're going to pay George Pickens 0:09:39.210 --> 0:09:41.490 the big money. Why not? I think he's a very 0:09:41.530 --> 0:09:43.530 good player, but I think they think they got his 0:09:43.610 --> 0:09:45.250 best work and they're not going to invest in this 0:09:45.290 --> 0:09:47.490 guy's future. Mark this one down. in the control room. 0:09:47.510 --> 0:09:48.740 I don't think they will sign big deal. 0:09:48.940 --> 0:09:51.420 George Pickens is still a young man. I mean, I'd 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.080 rather Pickens and Porter any day. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.059 Yeah, both are a little bit of head cases. I 0:09:55.100 --> 0:09:57.170 will say this. It really goes back to who the 0:09:57.190 --> 0:09:59.260 general manager is. It's your owner, and he's in his 80s. 0:09:59.250 --> 0:10:02.880 He doesn't make traditional football decisions. He makes reactionary football decisions. 0:10:02.980 --> 0:10:03.260 I know. 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:03.939 That's my point. 0:10:03.980 --> 0:10:06.000 It seems like same old cowboys in many ways. 0:10:06.059 --> 0:10:08.920 But he got bared out. His decision to let Micah 0:10:08.970 --> 0:10:12.370 Parsons go because Parsons is injured makes it look like 0:10:12.410 --> 0:10:14.429 a fantastic trade, which is happenstance. 0:10:14.590 --> 0:10:16.270 Well, you say that. We came into this year saying 0:10:16.330 --> 0:10:18.630 finally they fixed their defense. Guess what's awful right now? 0:10:19.070 --> 0:10:20.069 Their defense. 0:10:20.090 --> 0:10:22.679 So, yeah, I don't know where that narrative came that 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.179 they fixed their defense because they absolutely have not. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:25.900 We'll see. 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:27.760 The other thing is he's a press man coverage. He's 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.610 going to play a lot of zone in Dallas. We'll 0:10:29.630 --> 0:10:31.530 see how that works out. I think this looks like 0:10:31.550 --> 0:10:35.949 a headline win for Dallas, but not necessarily an on-the-field win. 0:10:36.110 --> 0:10:38.189 Why do the Steelers let Porter go? You have a 0:10:38.230 --> 0:10:41.120 good player in your building. You can just pay him. 0:10:41.179 --> 0:10:44.200 He seems like a quality defensive player. Look at the Steelers' 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.739 angle of this. Is this waving the white flag or 0:10:46.780 --> 0:10:48.880 just financially, fiscally conscious? 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.940 Well, actually, I'm saving that for my warm takes. 0:10:51.980 --> 0:10:54.069 I have a lot of thoughts on the Steelers because 0:10:54.390 --> 0:10:56.020 You look at Joey Porter, you can say, this guy 0:10:56.059 --> 0:10:59.260 is awesome. You know, he basically never let up a touchdown. 0:10:59.300 --> 0:11:01.160 This is his first game in 2023. Save it for 0:11:01.179 --> 0:11:03.600 the take. All right, yeah, I'm getting into it. We 0:11:03.620 --> 0:11:04.660 have a lot to get to. 0:11:05.540 --> 0:11:06.380 Joey Porter Jr. 0:11:06.740 --> 0:11:10.189 however, in 2024, did lead the league in interceptions. We'll 0:11:10.210 --> 0:11:15.290 get into all of that. Okay, next segment, warm takes. Paul, 0:11:15.610 --> 0:11:18.110 I am so excited about the Cleveland Browns. You're going 0:11:18.130 --> 0:11:21.300 to have to just contain me. Not only are they 2-1, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.600 they're 3-1. Oh, my God, am I on that bandwagon. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.870 We'll dive into that and much more next Not So Fast. 0:11:36.950 --> 0:11:40.790 We're going to have a challenge. 0:11:46.500 --> 0:11:49.400 Could the Phillies keep their season alive with an ABS 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.020 challenge this afternoon? 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:54.870 The answer is yes. 0:11:55.390 --> 0:11:55.730 Wow. 0:11:56.290 --> 0:11:57.840 Oh my God. 0:12:00.510 --> 0:12:02.690 Back on Not So Fast with Paps and Perloff. That's 0:12:02.730 --> 0:12:05.209 a midday pick-me-up. That's for you, Perloff. You bailed on 0:12:05.230 --> 0:12:08.410 your Phillies. You said they would win last night and 0:12:08.429 --> 0:12:11.250 then rip your hearts out tonight. That was Phillies reliever 0:12:11.470 --> 0:12:16.580 Andrew Painter with the first-ever playoff challenge-off. There's walk-offs. Now 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.460 we have a challenge-off, a delayed reaction and celebration. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:23.020 That is the most mild reaction to a game-winning strikeout 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:24.740 I've ever seen in my life, and that's. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:25.040 Where we are. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.640 It was like a 10-second delay. There's this long pause 0:12:27.700 --> 0:12:30.790 and like a... But you know what? That system is working. 0:12:30.910 --> 0:12:31.750 It worked last night. 0:12:31.970 --> 0:12:32.510 No, that's true. 0:12:32.550 --> 0:12:34.330 The same thing's happening in the NFL, by the way. 0:12:34.370 --> 0:12:37.620 They're emphasizing holding. So I've seen at least 25 touchdowns 0:12:37.660 --> 0:12:39.959 get called back. So every time the guy starts dancing 0:12:40.020 --> 0:12:41.860 or something and the other guy's tapping on his shoulder, no, 0:12:41.900 --> 0:12:42.400 it's a holding. 0:12:42.540 --> 0:12:42.719 Yeah. 0:12:42.980 --> 0:12:45.230 It happened at least 15 times last weekend. 0:12:45.250 --> 0:12:47.190 We should start doing this in this show. When we 0:12:47.210 --> 0:12:49.290 do something wrong, we just... Can we get a review? 0:12:49.330 --> 0:12:50.330 Can we get a review just now? 0:12:50.429 --> 0:12:53.309 I know people who are so bothered by replay killing 0:12:53.370 --> 0:12:56.460 the excitement of the moment. Are you one of those 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.319 more replay, less replay guys? Because you do lose some 0:12:59.360 --> 0:12:59.939 of those moments. 0:13:00.020 --> 0:13:03.060 I'm usually less, but what MLB did this year with 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.650 the review, there's strategy involved. You can't use it too 0:13:05.710 --> 0:13:08.120 early if you burn one. So it's become part of 0:13:08.150 --> 0:13:10.740 the game quickly, and the delay is weird, but the 0:13:10.780 --> 0:13:11.680 review is really fast. 0:13:11.740 --> 0:13:13.800 What if it was Game 7 of the World Series, 0:13:13.820 --> 0:13:17.140 full count, bases loaded, and you have to wait? 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.240 You're a Phillies guy. Tug McGraw throwing the thing up 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.000 in the air, and he, wait, wait, just give me 0:13:21.020 --> 0:13:21.870 a 20, and we celebrate. 0:13:21.990 --> 0:13:22.970 And they're just sort. 0:13:22.790 --> 0:13:23.449 Of standing around. 0:13:23.470 --> 0:13:25.550 A guy looked at his watch. Yeah, I have an 0:13:25.610 --> 0:13:27.109 issue with it. I think you need to keep it 0:13:27.150 --> 0:13:28.610 a little more in the moment. But didn't that. 0:13:28.550 --> 0:13:31.530 Happen in the Super Bowl with James White and Tom Brady, 0:13:31.570 --> 0:13:34.300 his pass to James White for the two-point conversion? Didn't 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.219 that get reviewed, and then they had to celebrate or re-celebrate? 0:13:37.540 --> 0:13:39.340 Could be. Yeah, I don't remember. 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:40.199 That was a long time ago. 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.540 All right, it's time for warm takes here on Not 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.250 So Fast. We are fired up. We're shot out of 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.690 a cannon. I'm going to go first. So I'm going 0:13:46.710 --> 0:13:49.469 to stay with baseball. In sports, when your team is 0:13:49.510 --> 0:13:51.730 knocked out, whatever sport it is, it's depressing. It bums 0:13:51.750 --> 0:13:53.750 you out. You get sports depressed. And I think this 0:13:53.790 --> 0:13:57.319 has an acute effect on hardcore baseball fans. Not everybody 0:13:57.410 --> 0:14:00.520 is hardcore, but people who are. If you're a Cub fan, 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.640 if you're an Astros fan, if you're a Red Sox fan, 0:14:04.330 --> 0:14:07.410 You watch all 162. It's part of your daily routine. 0:14:07.450 --> 0:14:10.050 You get up, you listen to sports radio, you get 0:14:10.090 --> 0:14:11.730 ready for the day game or night game, and you 0:14:11.770 --> 0:14:14.819 listen or watch to all 162 games. And there's not 0:14:15.020 --> 0:14:16.819 like football where it's like a game and then a 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.180 week to chop it up. It's day by day by day, 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.620 and you watch all 162. And when your team has 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.250 the rug pulled out from under them, like the Red 0:14:23.310 --> 0:14:25.090 Sox or the Cubs who thought they could do some 0:14:25.110 --> 0:14:27.710 damage this year, You're kind of like an untethered boat. 0:14:28.170 --> 0:14:29.750 What do I do now? I'm like, look at that guy. 0:14:29.790 --> 0:14:31.230 He had to put this dummy hat on. He was 0:14:31.250 --> 0:14:33.170 so upset. I don't know what that hat does, but 0:14:33.210 --> 0:14:36.190 it's not making things any better. And if you're a 0:14:37.050 --> 0:14:38.550 White Sox fan, you're in a great mood. But an 0:14:38.630 --> 0:14:41.350 Astros fan, you're like, what do we do? And you 0:14:41.370 --> 0:14:43.290 have a daily schedule as a baseball fan. Look at 0:14:43.310 --> 0:14:48.130 that guy. That's the look. The thousand-yard stare of the offseason. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.620 Now you feel like, what do I do with my life? 0:14:52.140 --> 0:14:53.860 I know you have football. I know you have hockey 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.150 coming up. But baseball fans, and I'm talking to the 0:14:56.190 --> 0:14:59.780 hardcore ones, they have a lifestyle that they live April 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:01.960 through the end of September, and now they don't know 0:15:01.980 --> 0:15:02.240 what to do. 0:15:02.620 --> 0:15:04.060 I was looking at some math here, Paul. 0:15:04.100 --> 0:15:07.280 There's 162 games, and then your season can be over 0:15:07.300 --> 0:15:10.960 in two games. So it's the longest regular season, shortest 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.220 playoff exit. Because in basketball or hockey, there's usually a five- 0:15:14.260 --> 0:15:17.240 or seven-game series. In football, you only have 17 games. 0:15:17.260 --> 0:15:19.480 If you go out on the wild card in football, 0:15:19.500 --> 0:15:21.590