Speaker 1: Y'all. Tonight, we are joined by Steph Watts, the true
Speaker 1: crime O g Honey. Steph launched his career at Court TV,
Speaker 1: producing live and tape national trial coverage. Steph and I
Speaker 1: now we first met on Nancy Gracie's show when she
Speaker 1: was on hl N in about twenty ten. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you he was out of the gate, just a
Speaker 1: bronco every night. And you know when he left there,
Speaker 1: he went over and was a field producer with Fox
Speaker 1: News The On the Record with Greta Vancestram. Y'all know,
Speaker 1: he's worked as an investigative journalist and he's been on
Speaker 1: Investigation Discovery, CNN, Fox News, CBS, and Ox Jim. He
Speaker 1: has done things like a special correspondent for the syndicated
Speaker 1: crime TV show Crime Watch Daily. He has been an
Speaker 1: executive producer. He's developed multi hour specials for ABC twenty
Speaker 1: twenty and Oxygen. Y'all know his work on Scott Peterson,
Speaker 1: Drew Peterson, Ted Bundy. He even produced Dead Again with
Speaker 1: executive producer Dick Woolf for A and E. He is
Speaker 1: all over the place. He's been all over the place.
Speaker 1: That's why we call him the OG. He is also
Speaker 1: a fierce advocate for murdered and missing victims. I have
Speaker 1: worked with him personally on this case and I cannot
Speaker 1: tell you how just honored I am he is with us.
Speaker 1: Steph Watts, welcome to his own seven.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, show. That was a hell of
Speaker 2: an introduction. I'm going to get you to pick up
Speaker 2: my funeral. That was a wonderful thanks. Thanks for that introduction. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you and I go go way back. And actually I
Speaker 2: just got a nice call from Nancy last week. We
Speaker 2: just spoke, so it's uh uh, we're getting old, Cheryl,
Speaker 2: but's getting old.
Speaker 1: He Let me tell you something. I much prefer that,
Speaker 1: don't you?
Speaker 2: Old and wise? That's why I'm the og. Thank you
Speaker 2: for having me on tonight. You know, we're talking about
Speaker 2: the Britney Drexel case, and it's a case that's near
Speaker 2: and dear to my heart. You know, I've worked on
Speaker 2: this case since twenty eleven when I first met Don Drexel.
Speaker 2: You know, I was, I don't know, can I jump
Speaker 2: right in on this, Cheryl, or honey, you can jump
Speaker 2: right in right well? I mean twenty eleven, I was
Speaker 2: speaking at a missing person's conference actually in South South Carolina.
Speaker 2: It was for q Missing Person's Uh Foundation.
Speaker 1: That's where we first met.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and John was there and my was I
Speaker 2: was sort of talking to the family members about navigating
Speaker 2: the antiquated justice system and how to get you know,
Speaker 2: your story to producers and television reporters like myself and
Speaker 2: you know, managing the media. And Don came up and said,
Speaker 2: you know, and I'll be honest show. I had heard
Speaker 2: the story, but I hadn't really followed it that much,
Speaker 2: just because I'd been on other things. And Don said,
Speaker 2: you know, can you can you help me with my story?
Speaker 2: No one's helping me. The police aren't helping me. And
Speaker 2: that night we always choke about this. We went to
Speaker 2: Hooters because it was the only place to eat wings
Speaker 2: and I just, you know, I just fell in love
Speaker 2: with Don. And you've met her. You know, she's just
Speaker 2: you know, this kind you know, sort of naive mom
Speaker 2: from from you know, upstate New York that's been thrust
Speaker 2: into this horrific situation, and she's just you know, we
Speaker 2: we've plowed through twists and turns and you know, Cheryl, really,
Speaker 2: when I jumped in, it's never imagining in a million
Speaker 2: years that I would be sitting here today when the
Speaker 2: place that we're at that you know, Raymond Moody came
Speaker 2: forward and you know, we got the news that there
Speaker 2: was a confession and you know, he was taking us
Speaker 2: to the body and there was going to wave his
Speaker 2: right to a trial. And you're just like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I cannot believe this is happening, and you want to
Speaker 2: be joyous, but it was so overwhelmed. Anyways, I jumped ahead,
Speaker 2: but yeah, here we are. It's and there's still so
Speaker 2: much more going on in this case. I think everybody
Speaker 2: thought it ended right twenty twenty two when Raymond Moody
Speaker 2: you know, confessed and took them to the body and
Speaker 2: waved his right to a trial and was sentenced. But
Speaker 2: the interesting part in all that, Cheryl was there. There
Speaker 2: was a little something that happened that all of us
Speaker 2: were like, wait, and that was he asked for immunity
Speaker 2: in a sense we'll use the term community. It was
Speaker 2: he asked for immunity for his girl, then girlfriend, Angel Ross, right,
Speaker 2: And we always said the story was that you know, Raymond,
Speaker 2: you know, picked her up and took her out there,
Speaker 2: kidnapped her, and it was never an Angel was never
Speaker 2: really involved. Well we've learned now, Cheryl, that that is
Speaker 2: not the case.
Speaker 1: And you know, step I want to go back just
Speaker 1: a little bit. For people that aren't familiar with the
Speaker 1: Brittany Drexel case, let me tell y'all something. Brittany did
Speaker 1: what thousands of students do. She went on spring break.
Speaker 1: She was gonna head down to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina
Speaker 1: with her friends from New York. They were having a ball.
Speaker 1: They went all that eight hundred miles just playing music,
Speaker 1: having the time of their life. But there was a twist,
Speaker 1: and the twist was her mama didn't know where she
Speaker 1: was us. She lied and said she was going to
Speaker 1: be staying with a friend. She called home and checked
Speaker 1: in a couple of times, you know how you do.
Speaker 1: Her mom just thought she was down the road with
Speaker 1: her buddies until she got a call. So April twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, is the last time she's seen
Speaker 1: alive on Myrtle Beach. So when all this went down,
Speaker 1: it was fast. Brittany and her girlfriends were staying at
Speaker 1: one hotel. There were a group of boys from the
Speaker 1: high school that were another hotel, So they walked back
Speaker 1: and forth again. Kids do it all the time every
Speaker 1: spring break. But Britney was hanging out with some of
Speaker 1: the guys. She decided, I'm going to go back to
Speaker 1: my hotel and she walked alone. Even though somebody said, hey,
Speaker 1: I'll walk with you one of the guys, she said, no,
Speaker 1: I'll be fine, it's just right there. Good Lord Nobidal.
Speaker 1: She never made it back to her hotel. The guys
Speaker 1: never saw her again, her girlfriend never saw her again,
Speaker 1: her mom never heard from her again. As she's walking
Speaker 1: from the boys hotel back to her hotel, she calls
Speaker 1: her boyfriend. That's the last person that ever heard from her.
Speaker 1: So Steph take us from when down got the call
Speaker 1: that Brittany was missing and then the realization that she's
Speaker 1: missing in South Carolina.
Speaker 2: You know, Don and family and friends immediately pack up
Speaker 2: and head down, you know, to Myrtle Beach area, and
Speaker 2: you know, you can imagine what it must have been
Speaker 2: like for them. Where do we start looking? You know,
Speaker 2: they questioned Britney's friends, and Dawn was smart, you know,
Speaker 2: Daun did everything great. She went immediately, Cheryl to the media,
Speaker 2: and you know, the local media knew that this was
Speaker 2: going to be a big story, there was a girl
Speaker 2: that was missing, and again, but instantly Cheryl Don was fighting,
Speaker 2: you know, the battles of oh she's a runaway, you know.
Speaker 2: And the problem with Myrtle Beach is they do get
Speaker 2: a lot of missing persons reports, and I've had conversations
Speaker 2: with the police officers and FBI down there, and they
Speaker 2: turn up within twenty four hours. Sometimes they take off
Speaker 2: with a group of people, or you know, they just
Speaker 2: go off and they come back. So you know, there
Speaker 2: is you know, it must it's frustrating for pre parentes.
Speaker 2: But Don was adamant that that that was not the
Speaker 2: case with Brittany, and to exasperate her point, she had
Speaker 2: to be somewhere. Brittany was to meet her friends to
Speaker 2: return some clothing, you know what I mean, cherylle. So
Speaker 2: it wasn't like, hey, Brittany went to the beach and
Speaker 2: whenever saw again. She was at one hotel going back
Speaker 2: to another hotel. She needed to be back there to
Speaker 2: return clothes, and Brittany was a responsible young girls. So
Speaker 2: the fact that she had a place to be within
Speaker 2: a time period was something that Dawn knew that something
Speaker 2: terrible was happening. I think in retrospect, Cheryl. Now we
Speaker 2: look back at the footage and we see the family
Speaker 2: searching and the police you know, searching and horseback and
Speaker 2: you know, you and I were involved in We see
Speaker 2: every agency available was searching. To know that all that
Speaker 2: time that Brittany was already dead, it's just heartbreaking when
Speaker 2: you put it back into perspective. And you know, for years, Cheryl,
Speaker 2: this went on. You know, we knew nothing about what
Speaker 2: happened to Brittany Drexel nothing, you know. Then you know,
Speaker 2: there were stories of you know, she was seen taking
Speaker 2: a bus and that turned out to be a false lead.
Speaker 2: And then Cheryl a huge break in the case in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen when the FBI hold a press conference and
Speaker 2: name a young man, Deshaun Taylor, as a suspects last
Speaker 2: person of interest. That's when I sat down with the
Speaker 2: FBI for the first time, and I sat down with
Speaker 2: Deshan Taylor for my show Crime Watch Daily, and I
Speaker 2: just felt like the story wasn't right. You know, first
Speaker 2: of all, the kid had had one arm. I mean,
Speaker 2: he had lost an arm in an accident, Okay, but
Speaker 2: it was you know, all of this information was coming
Speaker 2: off of a jailhouse snitch who claimed that Brittany was
Speaker 2: taken to mcclellanville and you know, gang raped in a
Speaker 2: crackhouse or whatever you want to call it. Cheryl, that
Speaker 2: wasn't the exact and then you know, rolled up in
Speaker 2: a carpet, shot and fed to the alligators. Can you
Speaker 2: imagine that this is the story that John Jackson not
Speaker 2: only has to process and began to think that these
Speaker 2: are the last moments of her daughter's life, she also
Speaker 2: has to get out in front of the media. And
Speaker 2: they really positioned her to kind of put her out
Speaker 2: there and like almost like they were fishing for more questions.
Speaker 2: And that's when Cheryl I knew that there was a
Speaker 2: problem with the story.
Speaker 1: Well I knew it, and I called on and I said, Don,
Speaker 1: there's zero evidence that your child was gang rape. There's
Speaker 1: zero evidence she was fed to an alligator. There's zero
Speaker 1: evidence that she was holed up in a stash house.
Speaker 1: They provided zero evidence. But here they are publicly saying
Speaker 1: all these things. And I said, don are they trying
Speaker 1: to pull somebody out? Are they trying to make somebody
Speaker 1: where they're just crazy and they are going to contact
Speaker 1: the FBI? Is that what they think is happening. You know,
Speaker 1: is this a ploy? Because there's no way they should
Speaker 1: believe this is true. I mean, these are fact based people.
Speaker 1: So the only thing that I told Don at the
Speaker 1: time that I could fathom is going on is somebody
Speaker 1: from the BAU has told them do this, say this
Speaker 1: and it'll draw somebody out.
Speaker 2: Well that's one theory. That's and it's plausible. But I
Speaker 2: truly believe, and I've said this several times and I've
Speaker 2: said it to the FBI, it's good old fashioned systemic
Speaker 2: racism pinted on the black guys. These guys had. This
Speaker 2: family was not clean, okay, Cheryl. You know they had
Speaker 2: a history of objections in the family of another girl.
Speaker 2: One of the uncles, you know, Dashaun, had a record
Speaker 2: armed robbery of a restaurant. So to me, it's like,
Speaker 2: we're in a high profile case. Let's it's sloppy police work.
Speaker 2: Let's pin it on these guys. And you know what,
Speaker 2: that's that my theory is a good theory because we
Speaker 2: now know that they're suing the FBI for I think
Speaker 2: ten million dollars because of this this situation. Now, let
Speaker 2: me be clear that they're not suing I call them
Speaker 2: my FBI guys, my team, my new team of guys
Speaker 2: that I've been working closely with.
Speaker 1: Conley and Kevanaugh and Anderson absolutely know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, you know, day one, when I was
Speaker 1: listening live to the you know, press conference, that's what
Speaker 1: I thought that it's got to be. I could not
Speaker 1: even make myself go to what you're saying. They just said, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's blame it on the black guy and move on
Speaker 1: and everybody will just accept it.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, I've had you know, I've worked
Speaker 2: closely with Mike, and I'll get to that. That's why
Speaker 2: that I have that close relationship. You heard me on
Speaker 2: the phone with them prior to this recording. I was
Speaker 2: getting an update from Mike. We really created a circle
Speaker 2: of trust over the years. But you know, Mike and
Speaker 2: a new team, they were handed a mess. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, and I've said this to Donn and Everybody's
Speaker 2: where this Britney Drexel's case was a perfect example of
Speaker 2: a failure of multi jurisdictional investigations. Okay, we had all
Speaker 2: these different departments. We had the SLED, we had the
Speaker 2: Georgetown Police Department, we had the Myrtle Beach Police Department,
Speaker 2: we had the FBI. There was five jurisdictions, right, so
Speaker 2: Mike and the team and they, you know, everybody wants
Speaker 2: to get across the finish line, but they weren't cooperating.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting, Cheryl, because when I did my Ted
Speaker 2: Bundy special I had investigators and the Ted Bundy on
Speaker 2: and Ted Bundy case was in a perfect example. And
Speaker 2: the police admitted that this was a epic failure of
Speaker 2: multi jurisdictional investigation. And we want everybody to use this
Speaker 2: as an example of what to not do and hope
Speaker 2: this never happens again. And Cheryl, here we are again
Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine to twenty twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: I'll use that date because that's when things change with
Speaker 2: the same problem. Every one of those those jurisdictions had
Speaker 2: little pieces of evidence, and everyone always says to me, Steph,
Speaker 2: what was the new evidence that brought this cheryld. There
Speaker 2: was no new evidence. There was new information and there
Speaker 2: was no new evidence, and people get confused on that.
Speaker 2: What I mean by that is they had all the
Speaker 2: pieces of the puzzle. Those guys took the new team
Speaker 2: took all those and started to look ats up. The
Speaker 2: new information was the truck that Raymond Moody was driving. Okay,
Speaker 2: so now they could go back and look at those
Speaker 2: tapes of Brittany walking down this and detail them and
Speaker 2: see Okay, then they saw Raymond's truck. Now they put
Speaker 2: Raymond Moody and Angel Voss at the same location as
Speaker 2: Brittany Drexel and then they matched it up with the side.
Speaker 2: So they did incredible, incredible police work. But Cheryl the
Speaker 2: elephant in the room on this and the biggest problem
Speaker 2: with this story is they had Raymond Moody on the radar.
Speaker 2: The day after Britney Drexel disappeared, Raymond Moody was pulled over. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is what this is the most frustrating part of
Speaker 2: the store. He was pulled over on his motorcycle for speeding. Okay.
Speaker 2: He was wearing one of those smaller motorcycle caps, the
Speaker 2: old style, Like it's more like a cat, like it
Speaker 2: sits on top of your head, right, like it just
Speaker 2: covers your brain. It doesn't. And he's covered in scratches. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna play Devil's advocate on this. The guy
Speaker 2: pulls him over. Raymond Moody is a registered sex offender.
Speaker 2: There's a missing girl in the neighborhood. He's covered in scratches,
Speaker 2: he's pulled over for speeding, and nobody connects the dots. Nowadays, Cheryl,
Speaker 2: you know that that information is all inside those officers'
Speaker 2: cars at that time, they would have to phone that
Speaker 2: back in to the station, right be Like I pulled
Speaker 2: over this particular individual, the person that received the call
Speaker 2: wouldn't have physically seen the scratches on his face. So again,
Speaker 2: it was sort of a failure of the system. But
Speaker 2: nobody's Cheryl, and we're all in the same line of work.
Speaker 2: I'm an investigative journalist, you're an investigator. Those are braces
Speaker 2: we need to be more tuned in, Like, Cheryl, that
Speaker 2: guy's got scratches on his face. Hey, he's a registered
Speaker 2: sex offender, Sir, where were you last night? Like they
Speaker 2: didn't connect the dots. And I've got Moody on tape, Cheryl,
Speaker 2: And one of the most shocking statements that says, he says,
Speaker 2: I wish those black kids had gone down for this crime.
Speaker 2: He was watching all of this happen all these years
Speaker 2: and never say a word.
Speaker 1: When I teach at the Academy. One thing I tell
Speaker 1: young investigators when they have a murder or a missing person,
Speaker 1: pull traffic tickets. Chances are that name may be in there.
Speaker 1: Because you want to talk historical. You covered Ted Bundy,
Speaker 1: he got a traffic ticket. So did Dennis Raider BTK,
Speaker 1: so did David Burker with son of Sam. It's common
Speaker 1: because when they're in that zone, they're concentrating on their hunting,
Speaker 1: they're looking for a victim, they're concentrating on what they did,
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. They're concentrating on anything but driving.
Speaker 1: So it's not uncommon that they're going to speed or
Speaker 1: go through a stop sign or on a traffic light.
Speaker 1: You pull those tickets. Absolutely, you're one hundred percent right, step.
Speaker 2: Brian, don't forget.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, got.
Speaker 2: Stopped, you know.
Speaker 1: And it tells you the time of day they hunt,
Speaker 1: and it tells you the area that's where they are.
Speaker 2: Right and exactly. And it's interesting that you use the
Speaker 2: word hunt because if we can jump ahead to this
Speaker 2: recent FBI document that was released, it's Mike's statement that
Speaker 2: they're using at angels sentencing. Raymond Moody says in there
Speaker 2: and I quote you that that night they were hunting
Speaker 2: a girl. They were hunting h for a victim, and
Speaker 2: unfortunately that victim was vic Brittany Jrexel. I think you
Speaker 2: heard me say to Mike on the phone, you know,
Speaker 2: and I hate to use this term, Cheryl, but you've
Speaker 2: heard it over and over again. Britney Drexel was the
Speaker 2: perfect victim. She was alone, she was beautiful, she was petite,
Speaker 2: she was vulnerable, you know. And I think what's really important,
Speaker 2: and I hope I'm not jumping too far ahead, is
Speaker 2: there was a lot of mystery about how Raymond Moody
Speaker 2: got her into the car. And when I went out
Speaker 2: to the Polliard with the FBI, with investigators in the
Speaker 2: family cho the place was horrific. I was like, how
Speaker 2: did they get her down this path, over this fence
Speaker 2: into this bush? And it was bugs bugs. We were
Speaker 2: like we dawn. In fact, we couldn't even stand to
Speaker 2: be there. Well, he had a tent set up, he
Speaker 2: had a whole camp, he had it all pre arranged,
Speaker 2: and you know, Angel Voss was the one who had
Speaker 2: gotten out of the car approached Britney Drexel and said, oh, hi,
Speaker 2: you know, do you how you doing. Do you know
Speaker 2: we're tourists too, do She single handedly lured Britney Drexel
Speaker 2: into that car under the guys that they were tourists
Speaker 2: and that they were going to drive her back to
Speaker 2: the hotel. Now what's always bothered a show, and we
Speaker 2: talked about this before, is how did they restrain her?
Speaker 2: How did Britney stay calm? What she dead in the car?
Speaker 2: The answer to those questions is now we now know
Speaker 2: they told so what happened is Ray was in the front,
Speaker 2: Angel was driving. They pretended to get I'm sorry. Ray
Speaker 2: was driving. Angel got in the passenger seat. Brittany got
Speaker 2: in the backseat. Ray pretended to get lost, pulled over Angel,
Speaker 2: They switched drivers. Raymond tried to get into the back
Speaker 2: of the car okay, but the car was locked. He
Speaker 2: then got into the drivers to the front seat. Passenger
Speaker 2: jumped into the backseat, restrained Britney Drexel and said, I
Speaker 2: need you to calm down. We're just going to kidnap you.
Speaker 2: We're going to call they forgot whoever it was. We're
Speaker 2: going to get five thousand dollars for you. We've done
Speaker 2: this before. So the entire time Britney is very calm
Speaker 2: because she's like, Okay, they're just going to take me
Speaker 2: to this place, they're going to get the money, and
Speaker 2: they're gonna let me go. They've done this before. So
Speaker 2: it's as crazy as that sounds, we can at least
Speaker 2: understand now, Cheryl, why she was calm, cool and collective
Speaker 2: during that time. Isn't that a crazy story?
Speaker 1: That is so frightening on every level? And you know,
Speaker 1: you think you know, Brittany was a soccer star, she
Speaker 1: was a popular kid. She was smart, she was beautiful,
Speaker 1: she was fatigue. I guarantee you on some level, she's thinking,
Speaker 1: if I just go along, it's gonna be fine. They're
Speaker 1: telling me it's gonna be fine. They're not hurting me
Speaker 1: right right.
Speaker 2: And Cheryl, if I can read a little bit of
Speaker 2: this document, this is an FBI document that will be presented.
Speaker 2: Actually these are Raymond Moody's words. Angel Voss exited the
Speaker 2: explorer to talk to Brittany to kind of soften her
Speaker 2: up a little bit, maybe trust us. Voss succeeded and
Speaker 2: led Brittany back to the car. They used a ruse
Speaker 2: that they were tourists from out of town and learned
Speaker 2: that Brittany was also a tourist. Brittany told him the
Speaker 2: name of a hotel and they offered to drop her off. However,
Speaker 2: as they drove north on the boulevard her hotel towards
Speaker 2: her hotel, talking casually, Moody turned off the boulevard, acting
Speaker 2: like he was lost. Brittany did not say anything. At
Speaker 2: that point, Moody drove across King's Highway and then stopped,
Speaker 2: claiming he was lost and needed to change drivers. This
Speaker 2: was part of the abduction plan, and Moody quickly initiated
Speaker 2: the next step. When they walked around the car to
Speaker 2: get outside, Moody into the back seat to restrain Brittany.
Speaker 2: The back door was locked from the outside. Moody insisted
Speaker 2: entering the passenger side front door, and before Voss put
Speaker 2: the vehicle into reverse, Moody dove through the seat and
Speaker 2: immediately physically restrained Brittany with his arms and hands. He
Speaker 2: told her not to panic because he kidnapped girls, demanded
Speaker 2: a five thousand dollars ransom from the city Chamber of Comments,
Speaker 2: then returned the girls safely. Moody told Brittany that the
Speaker 2: city usually bade the ransom without question because they didn't
Speaker 2: want negative media attention. Moody recalls handcuffing Brittany at that
Speaker 2: point either in the car at the Polyard landing and
Speaker 2: stayed with her in the backseat. Brittany did not say
Speaker 2: much during her trans transport. I mean, this document, Cheryl,
Speaker 2: is shocking. It's the details in here are horrific. And
Speaker 2: one thing I wanted to point out, this is an
Speaker 2: FBI document of Moody's detailed confession to Mike Conley. This
Speaker 2: is the first of fifteen interviews. Okay, Cheryl, So there's
Speaker 2: still a lot of holes in this. But what Mike's
Speaker 2: spanning on doing is on February thirteenth, at two thirty pm,
Speaker 2: at Angel Voss's sentencing, and the reason that this document
Speaker 2: came out, in these details came out, we were sort
Speaker 2: of trying to keep them quiet. And that's why I
Speaker 2: texted us, said, Cheryl, look, let's get ahead of this.
Speaker 2: It's coming out. Let's let's talk about this. Is they
Speaker 2: can't change the charges, Okay. Angel Voss is only charged
Speaker 2: with lying to fat It's line the federal investigators. Okay,
Speaker 2: But what this document can be can show the judge
Speaker 2: and Mike can prove as her lives were very, very extraordinary. Right,
Speaker 2: she was the one who convinced Brittany to get in
Speaker 2: the car.
Speaker 1: Didn't he leave? And she had the ability to let
Speaker 1: her go and did not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Raymond has a mister Moody has a ritual before
Speaker 2: he performs his hideous sexual acts, and one of them
Speaker 2: is that he needs to take a shower. So he
Speaker 2: returned to his hotel, which was seven miles away, to
Speaker 2: get as graphic as his drugs and sex toys, shower
Speaker 2: and return. So there's Angel Voss, okay, picture of this
Speaker 2: Cheryl sitting in a campsite, and then like I've been
Speaker 2: out there. I mean it's I mean I wouldn't stay
Speaker 2: there in a tent with Brittany Drexel, Okay, And I
Speaker 2: said to Mike, what I want to know is what
Speaker 2: they do talked about during that time. She had all
Speaker 2: that time to let her go, to release her, and
Speaker 2: she didn't. This act, this hideous act committed against Brittany Drexel,
Speaker 2: was Angel Voss's fantasy. Let me elaborate a little bit
Speaker 2: on that. Angel Voss knew that Raymond Moody had a
Speaker 2: fantasy of abducting and raping young girls. Angel, in her
Speaker 2: desperate attempt to maintain her presence with Moody, texted him
Speaker 2: one day and said, I also want to abduct and
Speaker 2: rape a young girl. I want to do it with you,
Speaker 2: And Raymond said, that's all you need to say. So
Speaker 2: it's you know, how does one monster meet another monster, Cheryl.
Speaker 2: I'll never understand that. But you know, this is the
Speaker 2: beginning of what happened. And this is just the tip
Speaker 2: of the iceberg. Like I said, this document that and
Speaker 2: you'll hear Mike testify at the sentencing is the first
Speaker 2: of fifteen recordings with Raymond Moody. But there's a much
Speaker 2: more interesting story that I have told you that I'd
Speaker 2: like to talk to you, but I'm sure you've got
Speaker 2: some questions.
Speaker 1: I do have some questions, but first I've got a statement.
Speaker 1: The thing that is the most disturbing to me is
Speaker 1: that in nineteen eighty three, Steph they had him. They
Speaker 1: had him in prison. He was sentenced to forty freaking
Speaker 1: years after being convicted of violent sex crimes, kidnapping and
Speaker 1: sexual assault of young girls. So this wasn't just a
Speaker 1: fantasy he had. He had already flip and done.
Speaker 2: It right, Cherylyn he served. He only served twenty years
Speaker 2: of that forty year sentence and was released on probation
Speaker 2: and returned back to South Carolina. And now remember that
Speaker 2: was in He was released in two thousand four. Okay,
Speaker 2: he was admitted in nineteen ninety. So let's TikTok okay.
Speaker 2: Shell towards the abduction of murder Britney Drexel. Now we're what,
Speaker 2: we're five six and five years away, two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: raised pro, raised pro, that gets his paros over. That's
Speaker 2: when everything's changed. That's when he met Angel Voss. Now
Speaker 2: we're only two years before the rape and abduction of
Speaker 2: Britney Druxel. One thing I want to ask you, and
Speaker 2: it's a hypothetical question, and you know I know the
Speaker 2: answer to this question, but I want your viewers to
Speaker 2: think about this because we know he committed crimes prior
Speaker 2: to Britney Drexel. You can't tell me that Raymond Moody
Speaker 2: did not commit any crimes after Britney Druxel after two
Speaker 2: thousand and one.
Speaker 1: Look, his parole ends in two thousand and seven, two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, he's charged with indecent exposure. YEP, I
Speaker 1: mean there's no way this guy is not going to
Speaker 1: reoffend at the age that he was, at the level
Speaker 1: that he was. There's no telling how many victims are
Speaker 1: in his past, but I can guarantee after Brittany, it
Speaker 1: only heightened what he wanted to do over and over
Speaker 1: and over.
Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you this, Cheryl, and I mean,
Speaker 2: this is going to come out, so you might as
Speaker 2: well hear it here. First, Mike and the FBI team
Speaker 2: are looking at other crimes in one particular police department
Speaker 2: where Raymond Moody has admitted to other crimes. I don't
Speaker 2: want to say murdered because we don't know it or
Speaker 2: believe it to be murdered, but he has committed other crimes.
Speaker 2: He's confessed to them, and the FBI is currently looking
Speaker 2: at a singular particular police department, any singular particular jurisdiction
Speaker 2: where all these alleged crimes happen. So yeah, we do
Speaker 2: have that. Now. I want to tell you how all
Speaker 2: this came to be. So I think that this is
Speaker 2: an addressing store. I don't know if you know the
Speaker 2: story because we haven't had she had to catch up
Speaker 2: with each other. I think the audience is getting a
Speaker 2: real like earful tonight. But you know, in while he
Speaker 2: was in prison, Raymond Moody met a guy named Ernie Merchant. Okay,
Speaker 2: Ernie Merchant and Raymond Moody began a relationship. They were
Speaker 2: jail house husbands or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: Raymond Moody took very good care of Ernie Merchant. Ernie
Speaker 2: was in for drug charges at the time. Ernie was
Speaker 2: an addict in and got caught dealing, and it was
Speaker 2: Ernie was I think he was released in two thousand.
Speaker 2: He had turned his life around and returned to South Carolina,
Speaker 2: built to life and became a very very successful hairdresser,
Speaker 2: which he is to this day. While you know, back
Speaker 2: then show and this is where people struggled with the story.
Speaker 2: You didn't talk about what you were in for, and
Speaker 2: prisoners didn't have, you know, cell phones and tablets and
Speaker 2: internet and all that stuff like they do now. So
Speaker 2: Earnie knew what ray was in for. But when Ernie left,
Speaker 2: Raymond told him about the crimes he committed. Obviously, Ernie
Speaker 2: was Petrick was horrified, but Ernie had turned his life around.
Speaker 2: This is what I want people to understand completely. So
Speaker 2: Ernie said to Raymond, when you get out, you know,
Speaker 2: come to me and we'll figure this out. Ernie had
Speaker 2: a sense of Raymond took care of me and protected
Speaker 2: me when I was in prison. I turned my life around.
Speaker 2: He's telling me he's changed. Why can't I extend that
Speaker 2: same courtesy to another individual, because I think people really
Speaker 2: struggled with the story. Raymond got out, Ernie and ray
Speaker 2: lived together in South Carolina. Ernie was a successful hairdresser.
Speaker 2: Ray was a cabinet maker, and then things changed, well,
Speaker 2: you know the incident that you talked about, and then
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, when ray was paroled, that's
Speaker 2: when Raymond met Angel Voss and there was sort of
Speaker 2: this Jerry Springer love triangle came out and Ernie warned Raymond.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm leaving you, but that woman is going
Speaker 2: to be the death of you. And Ernie was certainly right.
Speaker 2: Let's jump ahead to last year. Cheryl I was conducting
Speaker 2: an interview with Erne Emergent in his home for a
Speaker 2: Crime Nation, which is out now. I was one of
Speaker 2: the only people to get with Ernie other than the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty interview, which I facilitated. When the interview ended,
Speaker 2: Ernie's phone rings and he on the other end of
Speaker 2: the phone. Here's trick or treat. It was Halloween, Cheryl, Halloween,
Speaker 2: it was Raymond Moody. Ernie was visibly shaken. They didn't
Speaker 2: have a lot of time to talk. And that's when
Speaker 2: I sat Ernie down and I said, Ernie, listen, you
Speaker 2: need to establish a re establish a relationship with him.
Speaker 2: I'm going to show you how to set up a camera.
Speaker 2: I'm going to show you how to record him, and
Speaker 2: you need to get out of him what he did
Speaker 2: to Angel Voss. Ernie was incredibly lucked in at first,
Speaker 2: but I got him going and Cheryl, he took off
Speaker 2: like a dream. Ernie's excellent at what he does. Things
Speaker 2: started to go get really interesting, that's Cheryl. That's when
Speaker 2: I called Mike Connolly and said, Mike, you need to
Speaker 2: be listening to these calls. I said. He said, Steph,
Speaker 2: what's going on? I said, Ernie is going to get
Speaker 2: a confession from ray as to what Angel did to
Speaker 2: Angel's involvement in the Britney Druxel case, and he's also
Speaker 2: going to tell you about other crimes. So now myself
Speaker 2: an Ernie Merchant and the FBI are all working together
Speaker 2: to get these statements. So what you're seeing, Cheryl, is
Speaker 2: a tiny portion this sentencing statement which came out. And
Speaker 2: I was a little bit panicked because obviously I'm working
Speaker 2: on a documentary on this, and I'm like, the information
Speaker 2: is getting out. But this is one little piece of
Speaker 2: the puzzle. This is a tiny, like ten percent of
Speaker 2: the ninety percent of these conversations. So Raymond Ernie convinced
Speaker 2: Raymond to talk to Mike. So Ernie facilitated that. Now
Speaker 2: Ernie's burnt out and he's got PTSD and after Angel sentencing,
Speaker 2: with Mike's wish, I'm going to begin talking to Raymond
Speaker 2: Moody myself to continue the conversations and to continue to
Speaker 2: talk to him about additional crimes. So there's your breaking news.
Speaker 1: I am gobsmacked. I mean I am. That is incredible
Speaker 1: work on your part. And the fact that you can
Speaker 1: bring in Conley, who you also trust, Ernie, who trust
Speaker 1: you Ray who trusts Ernie. That, Sir, is how you
Speaker 1: get this dagone thing done. And to have that confession
Speaker 1: not just Angel's involvement, which everybody believed, but now you
Speaker 1: have been able to prove thanks to Ernie, but the
Speaker 1: other crimes, which again none of us would have ever
Speaker 1: believed he was, you know, in a can until Britney Drexel.
Speaker 1: Not possible. But this is tremendous and I applaud what
Speaker 1: you have done.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I mean, you know, it's it's it was
Speaker 2: a very fine line that we needed to walk, I would,
Speaker 2: like I said, I informed Mike. Ernie and Mike have
Speaker 2: had conversations that I'm not privy to. Mike's very forthcoming
Speaker 2: with me, but we've never and I need to make
Speaker 2: this very very clear, we have never broken protocol. You know,
Speaker 2: Mike has never told Ernie what to say or what
Speaker 2: to do. I have absolutely. I'm a journalist and I
Speaker 2: was guiding him on what to say, what questions to ask.
Speaker 2: But you know, we had a very unprecedented circle of trust.
Speaker 2: I met Mike, like I said back, and it's interesting.
Speaker 2: We we're laughing tonight our phone call. If you look
Speaker 2: back on my Crime Watch Daily interview back into I
Speaker 2: think it was twenty fifteen or sixteen, I sat with
Speaker 2: Mike and he says to me in the interview, and
Speaker 2: we always joke about it because he was Steph. I
Speaker 2: almost canceled that interview with you. He said, we have
Speaker 2: information on people who know what happened to Britney Drexel.
Speaker 2: Of course, everybody thought they were talking about you know,
Speaker 2: the you know the tailors. Well it wasn't the tailors.
Speaker 2: It was Raymond Moody and Angel Oss.
Speaker 1: You know it's crazy, Steph. I always tell young detectives
Speaker 1: you better find a media expert that you can trust,
Speaker 1: because you never know when you're going to need them
Speaker 1: to put your story out or give information that they
Speaker 1: can put out there to draw people to come to you,
Speaker 1: whether it's witnesses or other victims. One of the questions
Speaker 1: I literally have on my list to ask you was
Speaker 1: how did the FBI get detailed information at array to
Speaker 1: get him to essentially turn on angel And it was you.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, you know what, listen. I was a piece
Speaker 2: of the puzzle, okay, I you know, I was the
Speaker 2: one that convinced Ernie to talk. I was the one
Speaker 2: when once Ernie was going and I you know, look,
Speaker 2: I have I have all the tapes, so I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie. The FBI knows, you know, Ernie. I set
Speaker 2: him up with an iPad and we recorded all the
Speaker 2: calls and we I have them all. And as things
Speaker 2: got to the point where I thought that there was
Speaker 2: information that the FBI did, I did what, you know,
Speaker 2: I think what I would hope any good journalists would
Speaker 2: do who had an established relationship with law enforcement, which is,
Speaker 2: you know, Mike, you go get these tapes. Listen. I
Speaker 2: would start on this date. And that's exactly what happened,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you know, I had what else
Speaker 2: was I to do? Cheryl? I mean, what am I
Speaker 2: going to air the tapes and make a sensationalistic story?
Speaker 2: And I have my friends at the FBI like, dude,
Speaker 2: what the f you know, why didn't you tell us
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I've been in this business for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five years.
Speaker 1: But you're ethical, you're smart, and you did this for Dawn.
Speaker 1: You did this for Britney. You know this is the
Speaker 1: right thing. And Honey, let me just say, you're more
Speaker 1: than a piece of the puzzle. You were the whole border,
Speaker 1: you were the middle, you were the final piece. Because again,
Speaker 1: without you, Ernie wouldn't have done this. He wouldn't have
Speaker 1: had an iPad, he wouldn't have known how to set up
Speaker 1: a camera, he wouldn't know how to weave this confession
Speaker 1: and what to ask and what not to say. This
Speaker 1: was a beautifully orchestrated, expert way to get this information,
Speaker 1: and again by you handing it off to the person
Speaker 1: that you knew, you could trust the FBI to do
Speaker 1: the right thing with it.
Speaker 2: Here we are, and Cheryl, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: You're the first person that I've told the story to.
Speaker 2: So when I texted you and said I got something
Speaker 2: for you, I felt comfortable talking to you. You know,
Speaker 2: we're going to obviously do things with this. I think
Speaker 2: that this is a good platform because I think your
Speaker 2: viewers really understand it. Now, I want to tell you
Speaker 2: a couple other things. The information and the details of
Speaker 2: what they did to Britney drugs are horrific. Unfortunately, they
Speaker 2: came out and I talked to Mike, and Mike was
Speaker 2: aware that I knew, and I was struggling Cheryl because
Speaker 2: I always told Don I'll always be honest with you,
Speaker 2: I'll never lie to you. But I didn't tell her
Speaker 2: about this, Cheryl. I couldn't. It was just too graphic,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't It wasn't my place. You can tell
Speaker 2: I get upset about this. It wasn't my place to
Speaker 2: tell her, and Mike said, step, I'll tell her. And
Speaker 2: we needed to tell her before it came out because
Speaker 2: it was going to come out as sentencing. So that
Speaker 2: was my only you know, thing that I struggled with
Speaker 2: was I didn't tell Dawn. You know, the details, the
Speaker 2: horrific details, and as you know, you know Britney Draft
Speaker 2: Brexel was raped, strangled, stabbed in the heart with an
Speaker 2: ice pick, and drowned in the river, you know, and
Speaker 2: those are the general that's the general overview of what
Speaker 2: those two monsters did to her. Angel says, she didn't participate.
Speaker 2: You mean to tell you mean to I'm supposed to
Speaker 2: believe that she stood there and watched. I have a
Speaker 2: hard time grasping that. Now, Cheryl, where this is going
Speaker 2: to get complicated and people need to understand they can't
Speaker 2: change the charges, okay right now, but don Drexel has
Speaker 2: a nub fight in her. She needs to go to
Speaker 2: Jimmy Richardson and say I want Angel additionally charged for
Speaker 2: the abduction, the kidnapping, rape and murder of my daughter.
Speaker 2: Now whether or not that's gonna Cheryl, I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's a stay tuned dot dot dot. We don't know
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts, you know, because they're going to
Speaker 2: try to give her twenty four years. Jimmy may say
Speaker 2: that's enough. I'm not going to do it, but John's
Speaker 2: going to raise bloody ol and she needs to fight
Speaker 2: for additional charges to be brought against Angel, so there
Speaker 2: could potentially be another trial.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you my thoughts. She's in
Speaker 1: a van that she chose to get out of to
Speaker 1: walk up to Brittany. At that point, she could have
Speaker 1: told her run. She didn't. She convinced that child to
Speaker 1: get into the van because she thought she could trust her.
Speaker 1: Then she changed places. She drove. She drove while Brittany
Speaker 1: was attacked. She could have taken that day into the
Speaker 1: police department. She could have run it into a tree.
Speaker 1: She could have pulled over and got out and started
Speaker 1: screaming for help herself. She didn't. She drove that child
Speaker 1: to that undisclosed location with a and I can tell
Speaker 1: you right now, hadn't seen the photographs, don't know the
Speaker 1: inside of that tent, and I can tell you right
Speaker 1: now what it looked like, just like the inside of
Speaker 1: that van. It was gross. It was disgusting. It had
Speaker 1: drugs and probably beer and liquor and god knows what
Speaker 1: sexual toys and leftover was all over the place. And
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you when he left and drove
Speaker 1: fifteen miles back to his hotel, took a shower, and
Speaker 1: drove fifteen miles back. You're talking about forty five minutes conservatively.
Speaker 1: For forty five minutes, she watched that child, she talked
Speaker 1: to that child, and she held her captive by herself.
Speaker 1: She should spend the rest of her days in prison
Speaker 1: for just that. When you add what she stood by
Speaker 1: and what happened, there's not a punishment that's good enough
Speaker 1: for her.
Speaker 2: And now another twist to the story is in an
Speaker 2: undercover sting operation, and people are going to be a
Speaker 2: little bit upset about this. They got Angel. We have
Speaker 2: the recordings admitting to in a sting operation to someone
Speaker 2: from the Murtle Beach Police Department. That's exact story, minus
Speaker 2: some of the graphic details. Now everyone's going to say,
Speaker 2: why didn't they go in and arrest her, because at
Speaker 2: that time they were still looking at the tailors, and
Speaker 2: the original FBI team just didn't think that the story
Speaker 2: was credible. It wasn't until Raymond Moody detailed the story
Speaker 2: to Ernie Merchant. And to remember, he's told the story twice.
Speaker 2: He's told it to Ernie on the tapes. Okay, then
Speaker 2: Ernie set him up with Mike and he's told the
Speaker 2: story to Mike. So now we got the story twice
Speaker 2: and it aligns with what Angel said back in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: Now what the judge is going to do is say
Speaker 2: to Mike, well, how do we know Raymond Moody's not lying?
Speaker 2: And Cheryl, the answer to that is, Mike said, Steph,
Speaker 2: it lines up with the science, the science being cell
Speaker 2: phone triangulation, you know, locations of cars, time frames. Mike's
Speaker 2: got the science, Cheryl, to back up his testimony on
Speaker 2: July I'm sorry, on February thirteenth, at two thirty pm
Speaker 2: of this year. So you know they're still again, Cheryl,
Speaker 2: this story isn't over. You know, poor Dawn, she's got
Speaker 2: to go through, you know, more more details and what
Speaker 2: happened to her daughter, and she's got to continue to
Speaker 2: fight because she told me, she said, Steph, I will
Speaker 2: pick it outside Jimmy Richardson's office too, and she will, right,
Speaker 2: So it's interesting because no one knows, even Mike, you know,
Speaker 2: Mike Collin, I said, Mike, you know she needs to
Speaker 2: Mike's like Steff because they can't change the charges. People
Speaker 2: need to understand that the charges are lying to federal investigators.
Speaker 2: Now they released this portion of the recordings. So Mike,
Speaker 2: take the stand and show the judge the severity of that.
Speaker 2: With the maximum sentence being twenty four years, I believe
Speaker 2: and we can revisit this Cheryl after sentencing that he's
Speaker 2: going to give her the maximum sentence and that's and
Speaker 2: then Jimmy's going to say, well, Chary got the maximum sentence.
Speaker 2: But I think with the media pressure, I think Jimmy's
Speaker 2: gonna have to be because Don's going to force his hand.
Speaker 2: He's going to have to bring additional charges against her.
Speaker 2: So stay tuned, Cheryl. I don't know how this is
Speaker 2: going to play out.
Speaker 1: We will stay tuned. But she deserves to face every
Speaker 1: single charge for every single crome she allegedly participated in period.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you something else. Every single place that
Speaker 1: Raymond Moody lived, they need to search in a thirty
Speaker 1: mile radius he drove while he hunted. So that gives
Speaker 1: you extra areas that you need to check. But listen,
Speaker 1: before we hang up, I got to say something. This
Speaker 1: is not video, but I did get a chance to
Speaker 1: see you in person today and I got to tell
Speaker 1: you something. You look good, honey, you look fabulous, And
Speaker 1: I just want to say to you. Cancer did not
Speaker 1: stand a chance with you, baby. Yeah, right, yeah, you
Speaker 1: have just done amazing and through all of it, even
Speaker 1: when you were so sick, you were still looking out
Speaker 1: for other people. And I just found that extraordinary.
Speaker 2: Thank you that means the world to me. I didn't
Speaker 2: have time for cancer. I was in the middle of
Speaker 2: all this. That's three and you know, I never told
Speaker 2: anybody it was in the middle of this, and I
Speaker 2: was shooting I'm Nation season one, in season two and
Speaker 2: doing twenty twenty, you know, and I'm just like, you
Speaker 2: know what, I've fought worse battles, and you know, not
Speaker 2: to go down the rabbit hole of this, but there's
Speaker 2: people that have way worse cancer than I do, you know.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm happy to tell you I've had stage
Speaker 2: four po I said, cancer that moved to my bones.
Speaker 2: I did radiation. I'm currently on hormone and steroid daily treatments.
Speaker 2: Of tablets. So I'm a miserable bitch movie. I get
Speaker 2: Holt flashes everyone. It's like going through menopositive Hell does
Speaker 2: that mean? But the one thing, that one statement I
Speaker 2: wanted to share with you that I thought was really
Speaker 2: interesting share before we go is Raymond Moody and these
Speaker 2: tapes and we're gonna, you know, we're It's no surprise
Speaker 2: that I'm currently working on a documentary. We're still trying
Speaker 2: to find a home with these tapes through Ernie's lens
Speaker 2: and Ernie's fight for justice. But one thing Raymond Moody
Speaker 2: said was I wished I had a killed Angel. I'm
Speaker 2: just like this fuckings because she she it was her
Speaker 2: big mouth that you know.
Speaker 1: That's right, you know her, you know, so we call
Speaker 1: that justice. Yeah, that's what you deserve, Raymond is for
Speaker 1: Angel to run her.
Speaker 2: My health, Raymond confessed to you know, Ernie used his
Speaker 2: relationship with ray his Raymond's love for Ernie. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's a really interesting story to trust him. And
Speaker 2: Raymond Moody is dying by the way, he's got a
Speaker 2: uh you know, he's in a wheelchair. He's currently wearing diapers.
Speaker 2: I mean, if there's any justice. The guy is not
Speaker 2: in good health, and Ernie convinced him to tell this
Speaker 2: story and tell the truth and do this for Don Drexel. Uh,
Speaker 2: he owed it to her. I think he spared a
Speaker 2: lot of graphic details. I think there's stuff we still
Speaker 2: don't know. I think he even said on the tapes,
Speaker 2: why to Don need to know all of this stuff?
Speaker 2: It's doesn't matter, but Don Stun wants to know, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean she wants to know everything is the good,
Speaker 2: the bad, and the ugly. So anyway, Cheryl, again, the
Speaker 2: story's not over. Sentencing is coming up, and let's pick
Speaker 2: this up when we find out what happens with Angel Voss.
Speaker 1: Oh honey, you're coming back and listen, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: Don as well. I've talked to her. She's gonna join us,
Speaker 1: but we are gonna reconvene when we've got some things
Speaker 1: we can bring back up. And yeah, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: You wait, I know she's traumatized, and she is. And
Speaker 2: I said, don just don't do anything till after sentencing.
Speaker 2: Like she's you know, sheil she's just not understandably, she's
Speaker 2: not in a good headspace.
Speaker 1: Understandably, I talk to her every day.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you reached out to her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I told her. We'll just wait
Speaker 1: because I adore her too.
Speaker 2: Let's get through sentencing, and I think she'll have a
Speaker 2: you know, give you her perspective of being in court.
Speaker 2: And I've already reviewed her victim impacts, David, which is
Speaker 2: so powerful. Unfortunately, so that you're viewing audience or your
Speaker 2: listening audiences where this is federal court. So unlike Raymond
Speaker 2: Moody's case, where we did have cameras in the courtroom,
Speaker 2: there is no cameras in the courtroom. There will be
Speaker 2: no audio of that, so you will be relying on
Speaker 2: play by play from people like myself and things like
Speaker 2: you know that who and Dawn Who and others who
Speaker 2: were in the in the courtroom. So that's why I said,
Speaker 2: let's wait, because you know you won't be getting you know,
Speaker 2: the live feed out as the sentencing.
Speaker 1: No understood, And that's another reason I wanted her to
Speaker 1: know you and I were going to be together, we
Speaker 1: were going to be talking, and you know, she of
Speaker 1: course was thrilled with that and that we would be
Speaker 1: with her whenever she was good and ready I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Call her right as soon as we're hanging out from
Speaker 2: here and check out.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, just tell her I love her and
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I appreciate you coming on Zone seven,
Speaker 1: but more importantly being a part of my Zone seven step.
Speaker 2: Thank you, I feel, Cheryl. I can't believe we haven't
Speaker 2: done this before. What the hell's wrong with us?
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna be doing it more often, so y'all
Speaker 1: just get ready. But y'all, I'm gonna end Zone seven
Speaker 1: the way that I always do with a quote I
Speaker 1: was a monster Raymond Moody. I'm Cheryl McCollum, and this
Speaker 1: is Zone seven.