1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Now. Joining us is John Lee, 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: president and CEO at m k S Instruments. It's a 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: nasdack listed company. He's here to discuss earnings as well 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: as that acquisition of Carlile's Atto Tech. Uh. John, good morning, 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: good evening to you. We want to talk about that acquisition, 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: of course, but of course we're Bloomberg. We need to 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: dig into some of the uh, the issues in the 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: in the supply chain, in the chip industry and the like. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: On that second quarter earnings call, m KS said it's 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: still going to be supply constrained throughout the year. Can 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: you give us kind of an update on the supply 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: and backlog situation? How long your chip equipment customers have 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: to wait to get your products now, et cetera. Yeah, sure, 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: and thanks for having us on. We still remain supply 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: chain constrained, um. You know, some of the components that 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: we've seen in the past, electronic components remain constrained. Um. 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: But I think things are getting a little better. Uh. 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: The industry and a m CAST themselves are handling better 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: with much more collaboration between us and our plot and 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: our customers. So things are gradually getting better, but it 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: still remains a constrained environment. The acquisition of auto Tech, 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious about um why and what it brings to you? 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: And then also how what are you expecting from the 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: integration process? Yes, well, you know, m CASS is a 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: strategy of being a provider of foundational technologies for advanced electronics, 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: next generation electronics. And the best example is your smartphone. 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: And in that smartphone, of course is semic connectors, which 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: are always getting better. But inside as well are all 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: these other components. And these other components require packaging. And 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: the packaging is where at a Tech plays, So they're 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: the leader in putting the metal interconnects in these packages 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: that allows all these chips to work together. And so 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: with at a Tech and with the legacy m CAST, 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: we believe we are now the broadest supplier enabling the 35 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: next generation electronics. John, with the US efforts to reshore 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: chip production, how beneficial will that be for your business? 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: How will your company benefit from the Chips Act? But 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: we certainly will benefit as more fabs get built. But 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, in in the way MCAST looks at it 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: is the fabs that get built no matter where they're built, 41 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna need advanced equipment to make those chips, and 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: m CAST provides of the various components that go into 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: that equipment. So we're really looking at really overall demand 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: of the semi country industry and the fabs that get built. 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: Certainly having it built in the United States is beneficial, 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: but we really look at where the total number of 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: fabs are being built, regardless of where the geography is. 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: One positive note, I know you spoke to this a 49 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: little bit, but I wanted to get to this note 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: from Susquehanna Financial Group that chip delivery time so shrank 51 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: again in August and that that could be a sign 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: that the global shortage of semiconductors is easing further. Can 53 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: you shed any light on that, Yeah, that's certainly. You know, 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: we read the same things and we've seen some some 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: of that in our own supply chain. Um, you know, 56 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: in the semi country industry does go through cycles. Uh 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: In many companys have looked at d RAM being the 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: next area of memory being the next area that might 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: go through kind of a dip. But you know, we've 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: been through this many times in our sixty year history 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: and semic connectors we have a playbook. We know how 62 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: to react to it. And actually downturns are great, great 63 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: times to continue investing in R and D and come 64 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: out even stronger. A John, your your major customer. Land 65 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: Research mentioned in its latest learnings called that the US 66 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: is now forbidding American equipment suppliers to ship equipment that 67 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: can make fourteen or more advanced chips to China. Do 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: you do you see a big impact from the new 69 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: US restrictions? Yeah, it's hard to tell. Uh, Certainly, we're 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: going to be abiding by any kind of laws that 71 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: the United States puts there. But as I said before, 72 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, if the equipment doesn't go to China to 73 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: have the chips built in China, they'll go somewhere else. 74 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: And as I said, we are going to be the 75 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: provider for some of that critical technology no matter where 76 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: that that chip is built. And I'd like to hear 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: a comment just about overall demand. A lot of people 78 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: are worried about because of what we've seen from semiconductors 79 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: that it's a kind of a leading indicator on perhaps 80 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: the economy turning lower. Do you do you see that? 81 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: How is your business? Our business remains really strong, actually, 82 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: and you know, the bookings and the backlob remain very strong. 83 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: As I said earlier, we're still supply chain constrained. Um, 84 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: you know, things can change. We read the same things 85 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: where you know chip demand could be going down. But 86 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: as I said, we really look at chip demand in 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: the long term and long term semicunter chip demand, I 88 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: think we could all agree it's a great place to be. 89 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: It's it's ubiquitous in all of our lives, and so 90 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: we're really bullish about the long term transfer semic counter demand. Well, 91 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: in the next six months or so, we're gonna likely 92 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: have even higher interest rates and a possible recession. How 93 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: are you factoring those in? Well, certainly. Uh, you know, 94 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 1: we have a playbook if if things do turn down 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. We have a variable cost structure. We've 96 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: done this many times. We watch costs, we uh, we 97 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: watch our bookings and very quickly react to that. And 98 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: so we've done that pretty well over the last sixty years. 99 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: So the biggest challenge at the moment, then, our biggest 100 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: challenge is getting parts so we can ship. As I said, yeah, 101 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: we still supply and constraint all right, John, thanks very 102 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: much for being with this best of Luck, John Lee, 103 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: President and CEO at m k S Instruments, discussing m 104 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: KS earnings and also the acquisition of out of Tech