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Speaker 1: A is Shagart Ebiney, and in part two of this

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Speaker 1: week's episode, my guest and I Kikey on how she

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Speaker 1: got started in the world of paranormal. She also talks

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Speaker 1: about the common misconceptions about being a ghost hunter, and

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Speaker 1: of course, it wouldn't be a ghost Hunter episode if

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Speaker 1: she didn't share some spine tingling ghost stories. But that's

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Speaker 1: not all, child. We got a few surprise guests joining us,

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Speaker 1: So go on ahead, turned on all the lights because

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Speaker 1: I am a ghost hunter. Part two is starting now. Now,

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Speaker 1: how did your experiences living in a hunting house influence

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Speaker 1: your interest in becoming a ghost hunter?

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Speaker 2: I think what it did was leave me with a.

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Speaker 1: Period you gonna be I know it hasn't been for

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Speaker 1: a while too, like it's been a why hello.

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Speaker 2: You can come over here?

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Speaker 1: But I think, oh, they into this part, this part?

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Speaker 2: They yet, they.

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Speaker 3: Really into this part.

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Speaker 2: Lord. I think my reasoning as to why I got

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Speaker 2: into the paranormal as an adult is because of the

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Speaker 2: fact that when I was younger, I didn't know what

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Speaker 2: was happening. I was worried about certain things or scared

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Speaker 2: and I couldn't make sense of it. So now, as

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Speaker 2: an adult and seeing things in the media of people

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Speaker 2: I decided that I wanted to figure out the answer

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Speaker 2: for myself. Nobody answer my question better than me, yep,

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Speaker 2: So I decided I was going to go find the answers,

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Speaker 2: and so far I've been able to do that. I've

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Speaker 2: been able to kind of satisfy that hunger that I've

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Speaker 2: had since I was younger. But at the same time

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Speaker 2: it has become so much fun to me and so

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Speaker 2: interesting to me to be I can, yes, yes, I do, honestly.

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Speaker 2: If I and I always say this on a constant

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Speaker 2: just something that I love the history.

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Speaker 1: I love to be able to find out new things.

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Speaker 2: And be in a realm where I feel comfortable.

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Speaker 1: And how long you been doing this?

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Speaker 2: I've been doing this since twenty seventeen, but I've been

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Speaker 2: interested in the paranormal since I was really young. Like

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Speaker 2: I said, it's my mother's fault, shout out to my mama.

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Speaker 2: But I've been into it since I was really young.

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Speaker 2: It's just now that I'm an adult, I can make

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Speaker 2: sense of it. So twenty seventeen is when I first

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Speaker 1: Now, is this the reason why you moved to Ohio?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm like, how does she get to Ohio from Brooklyn?

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Speaker 2: The main my husband. Let's just put a point in

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Speaker 2: that there. My husband is from here, and he actually

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Speaker 2: moved to New York to try to make it there.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you can make it here, you can

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Speaker 2: make it anywhere, right, Yeah, But obviously he didn't make

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Speaker 2: that's posted and you got ten thousand people applying for

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Speaker 2: and it was really hard. So we decided, Okay, let's

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Speaker 3: Where you're from, and maybe it might actually be a

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Speaker 1: Okay, so did you get your first job there into

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, Oh my gosh. Every time you ask the

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Speaker 1: Because they know we about to start talking about the

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Speaker 2: So exactly exactly, but I started working at firstly, I

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Speaker 1: They're like, this, don't lie, this tell the truth, because

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Speaker 2: I know, I know. It's a constant for me. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: that's fine. But I started working at the Lafayette Hotel

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Speaker 2: A Marietta with came to the Lafayette Hotel to do

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Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, I volunteer's tribute basically. So

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Speaker 2: I volunteered to be the liaison with this ghost hunt basically.

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Speaker 2: And it was just so everything was so specific and

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Speaker 2: I've known about the history of the hotel for really

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Speaker 2: long time. Damn right, Like okay, I get it. Stop

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Speaker 1: Oh now, stop?

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Speaker 3: Please thank you now stop let me let me, let

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Speaker 1: My guess is sitting down the machine is probably what

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Speaker 1: how many feet.

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Speaker 2: From you, like ten twenty fifteen, ten to fifteen feet right?

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Speaker 1: And stop? Yeah, can you stop? Please?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I want to freak my listeners out.

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Speaker 2: I know. I'm so sorry everybody. I'm so full. It's

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Speaker 2: But I thought it was really cool the way that

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Speaker 2: blah blah. It wasn't like that at all.

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Speaker 1: It was like, Okay, this light switch is given off

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Speaker 1: because there's certain pieces of equipment that used that can

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Speaker 2: Faulty wiring and walls. So if it gives off something called.

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Speaker 3: A high EMF, which is electromagnetic field, then it can

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Speaker 2: So they swept the room, is what they call it.

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Speaker 2: They made sure that they checked for anything that might

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Speaker 2: be giving off a high EMF. They made sure that

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Speaker 2: was very much engrossed in something that I had been

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Speaker 2: just pretty much as soon as I finished that ghost

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Speaker 2: I've literally been with Hit and Marietta ever since because

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Speaker 1: Right, do you feel like there's any misconceptions about ghost

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Not everything is demons, Not everything is bad. Not

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Speaker 2: A lot of times the paranormal things that might be

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Speaker 2: that's still pretty terrifying for most people, but you kind

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Speaker 2: of have to look at it in a sort of

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Speaker 2: human kind of way. Once again, these people were here

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Speaker 2: obviously we kind of just have to share the space

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Speaker 1: Right, right, yes, is that right?

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Speaker 1: Now, as a co owner of a tour and events

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Speaker 1: company with a focus on Marietta, Ohio's eerie historical aspects,

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Speaker 1: could you provide some background about the area where your

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Speaker 1: this is really history.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, this is very much, very much history. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We are the very first settlement in Ohio. It was

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Speaker 2: United States. There were several different pioneers in this area

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Speaker 2: But of course, before the pioneers were here, this area

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Speaker 2: this land itself has actually been seen as something that

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Speaker 2: was very spiritual, very spiritual land, and there's still remnants

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Speaker 2: of several different Native American tribes. It was a burial mountain.

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Speaker 2: And of course when the pioneers came here, they were

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Speaker 2: not listen. So Marietta itself is actually built on the

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Speaker 2: said in many different cultures, many different aspects of history,

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Speaker 4: It's it's really, it's it's true that water.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't realize that water is such

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Speaker 2: is seen as something that's spiritual. It's constantly given energy.

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Speaker 2: A lot of places like still use like the water

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Speaker 2: Water is something that is resilient. Everybody knows this to

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Speaker 2: be true. Tsunamis obviously are very very devastating, so water

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Speaker 2: can be very very harsh in many many ways. But

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Speaker 2: it is also seen in this particular area by the

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Speaker 2: Native Americans as something that was very spiritual to them. Now,

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Speaker 2: there have been several different deaths over the years in

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Speaker 2: several different locations, several deaths here inside of this building.

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Speaker 2: The anchorage and the town itself has seen definitely seen

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Speaker 2: several different tragedies over the years. With it being on

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Speaker 2: nineteen thirteen flood is actually the worst national disaster in

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Speaker 2: in this particular area. It's it's it's definitely a lot

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Speaker 2: a lot of people passed away. There have been several

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Speaker 3: And realistically that's kind of commonplace for a lot of different.

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Speaker 5: That's why we're heading Marietta.

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Speaker 1: And not to have a blond moment. Correct me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. But it wasn't gonna stop for the underground railroad.

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Speaker 1: Yo, what would you do if you saw Harry and Tullman?

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Speaker 2: And the cool thing about this house too is we

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Speaker 2: We're not sure exactly why she is here, but she,

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Speaker 3: More comfortable here. No, the equipment like was beeping. Oh see, go.

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Speaker 2: Ahead, you saw right?

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Speaker 1: No, I sup. I'm like, did you see something?

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Speaker 3: No, the equipment was, uh was beeping. And that's why

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Speaker 3: I was just kind of like, oh, okay, hi.

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Speaker 1: Now, what are some of the key stories you shared

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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, Ohio is like my goodness, yes, it's

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Speaker 1: like where you at the fact, I feel like where

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Speaker 2: Stand out so much. Marietta, like I said, was the

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Speaker 1: In Yeah, I see it flashing. Go ahead, did you

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Speaker 1: got something to say?

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Speaker 2: Thank you you sa right now? I saw it. Yes,

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Speaker 2: this is this is just normal for me. But honestly, though,

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Speaker 2: though it is kind of uh in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: Just went off and then it came back on. Wow,

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Speaker 1: oh oh ship y'all the license went off where she

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Speaker 1: is nah, like it just got completely dark where she's at, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just want you to know, Okay, I'm using

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Speaker 2: completely off. Oh h oh goodness. Okay, y'all really showing

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Speaker 1: If this was in person, I would have hauled as

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, honestly believe me. I have had

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Speaker 2: It's pretty well normal.

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Speaker 1: No, I would like, come on girl, yep. But I

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Speaker 1: guess I guess I'm just sitting here like this now. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean if they if that is that's what you

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Speaker 1: It's all right, right, wow, all right, Well let's get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. But yeah, Marriott, Ohio was definitely

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Speaker 1: And we just kind of want to uh kind of

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Speaker 1: one of the stories that you share was about a

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Speaker 1: and they actually have a scene. Yeah, tell us about that.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was so cool.

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Speaker 2: Yes, mister, I always I always confused mister Shay or

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Speaker 2: There was a murder that happened because there was an

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Speaker 1: Because the audio is messing up really bad. Now audio

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Apparently they are very impatient right now and

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Speaker 1: Headphones out, guys, but you still sound good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, great. But not only are the theaters haunted.

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Speaker 3: There are several different businesses that have stated that they've

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Speaker 2: There's a story. I don't know necessarily if they haven't

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Speaker 1: There was just so many I thought that was an

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that is the well once previously known as

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Speaker 1: Wow, And he didn't go to jail for it because

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was considered a justice killing if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 2: basically meaning like it was a dishonor to his family,

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Speaker 2: Of course, the family did end up having to move

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Speaker 1: Now, when it comes to your investigations, do you always

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Speaker 1: and tools do you use? Because I see two of

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Speaker 2: We do use the same pieces of equipment. We have

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Speaker 2: that has been consistently going off is called a rimpod.

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Speaker 2: What it does it emits a an electromagnetic field that

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Speaker 2: of like just to show that somebody is walking there.

438
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: So far, that hasn't gone off at all. It's mostly

439
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 2: just been the rim pot over there.

440
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: If we here's the music, I know, I know, I know,

441
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: I'm I'm used to it.

442
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: For me, I'm just like, oh, hey, come all right.

443
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: But then over here, I just have like a little

444
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: K two meter which it has a green light on it.

445
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: But I can't really see it on camera, so you

446
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: probably can't see it either. But we also have dowsing rods,

447
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: which are just two copper wires, pretty stiff wires that

448
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: are able to cross and be manipulated by spirits. What

449
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: they used to be used for was to find water

450
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: like well water and stuff. They would cross when you

451
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: get over to it because it has a natural magnetic

452
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: pull to it, so it would cross for you or

453
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: open up wide if you're getting further away from it,

454
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: and a lot of Victorian spirits are used to using that,

455
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: so that's something that we utilized. We also have like

456
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: little motion detecting cat balls. It's like a little literally

457
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: a cat toy, but they work really well with the

458
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: paranormal because as soon as you move it, it starts

459
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 2: lighting up and going off. So so we have a

460
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 2: bunch of different stuff. And then of course we have

461
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: a few people in our team that are sensitive, so

462
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: we also use those sensitive people as kind of like

463
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 2: bait in a way, white meat basically exactly. So have

464
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: you ever encountered encounter any like challenging or dangerous situations

465
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: while investigating? Because I do feel like you have this

466
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: type of energy where I can see why the spirits

467
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 2: fuck with you. Yeah, I am. I've never been in

468
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: a situation where I have felt like I was in

469
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: danger or felt like I was like I needed to

470
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: get out of there right then and there. For the

471
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: most part, every experience that I have had has been

472
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: pretty pretty jarring for a lot of people, jarring for

473
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: me sometimes, But because of how I keep myself for

474
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: lack of better words, how I keep myself protected, it

475
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: makes it to where I am. Like you said, I'm

476
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: just a vibe. Honestly, I definitely passed the vibe check

477
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: when it comes to a lot of the spirits because

478
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: they fuck with me.

479
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

480
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: I just got a.

481
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: Vibe, and he's the reason why everything's going off and

482
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: the light don't.

483
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: Work no more, and the audio don't work no more.

484
00:29:52,200 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: I'm just chilling dog. So how do you prepare?

485
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: Like do you have any like rituals that you do

486
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: before during after? Like is there a prayer that you say?

487
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: No, I just kind of go into it completely in

488
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: the zone of it. Really. Obviously, I like to know,

489
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: like I like to do a tour beforehand. I like

490
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: to know the history of a place and stuff. But

491
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: for the most part, I come to them as open

492
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: as and as humble as any visitor to your domain

493
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: with b I don't go in. They're all like top

494
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: diesel gung ho, like this is my place and this

495
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: is my property, and this is my because I'm just

496
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: visiting dogle like I I'm just visiting. I'm here for

497
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: a good time.

498
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: Right. So when you encounter these spaces and you share

499
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: your stories on the things that you that you witness,

500
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: how do you respond to those who don't believe you?

501
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: I just say, okay, right, honestly, because at the end

502
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: of the day, they don't have to believe me.

503
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: They don't have to believe it the paranormal. I'm not

504
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: gonna lose any sleep whatsoever. If you turn around and

505
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: be like this girl child she over be here playing games.

506
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: She ain't This ain't real. So I got remote, so

507
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: she got people doing shit, and she got that. My

508
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: job is not to make somebody believe in anything. My

509
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: job is just to tell you what the facts are,

510
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: show you what has happened in my experiences, and then

511
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: you take it how you like it.

512
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Right, It's fun. Now, have you ever had any situations

513
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: that made you question your own belief?

514
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: Not really I am. I don't know the best way

515
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: to kind of say it. I've never had anything that

516
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: made me question anything, because I the same as everybody else.

517
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: Even though I believe in this, I still also look

518
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: at things in a very logical sort of sense. So

519
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: I always tell people whenever I do tours, whenever I

520
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: do ghost hunts, not everything is going to be paranormal.

521
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 2: Some things can be debunked and completely explained away. You

522
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: can kind of find the logic and a lot of things.

523
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: So I never really had anything that really just kind

524
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: of made me be like interesting.

525
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And how has your understanding of the supernatural evolved

526
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: over the course of your career.

527
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: It's evolved in a very.

528
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: Because you've seen that. I can only imagine how many

529
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: ghosts you've seen in your lifetime, because it's normal.

530
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: For years, I've seen a lot of spirits, just from

531
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: when I was younger to now, I've seen so many spirits,

532
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: and it's just it's very much second nature for me.

533
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it is. It's not. It's definitely

534
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 2: not going away. Spirits are going to be there no

535
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: matter what, whether they be somebody that you know or

536
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: some that you don't know. People have their like grandparents

537
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: come and visit them, people have their ancestors come and

538
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: speak to them, and different spirits and what have you,

539
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: and it's just it's just a normal It's very normal.

540
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: And I think the matter of the whole matter of

541
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: the fact is you just have to kind of come

542
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: to terms that we're not alone. But in any way,

543
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: shape or form, we are not alone. There's always somebody's

544
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: always going to have a guardian angel.

545
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: Clearly I'm not you know, somebody's going to have a

546
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: guardian angel with them. Somebody's going to have a spirit

547
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: with them in some way, shape or form to help

548
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 1: them guide them through their life. A lot of people

549
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: feel like they have Christ as a spirit with them,

550
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: and that's something that can be considered paranormal. So a

551
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: lot of people don't realize this, but almost every single

552
00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: aspect of your life, your day to day, is something spooky.

553
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

554
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. And last, but not least, can you share any

555
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: tips or advice for individuals who are interested in getting

556
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: started in ghost hunting as a hobby or a profession,

557
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: because I do see the increase of people that look

558
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: like us in this industry, and I think that's fucking amazing.

559
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 2: Yes, it's honestly, it's so beautiful to see that I'm

560
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: not the only fucking weirder. But anymore, I.

561
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: Don't even think you weird though, because I think it's

562
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people who likes this stuff like I

563
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: love this stuff, and maybe in another lifetime I would

564
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: probably do the same profession because I think it's so

565
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: cool to know that you know, this place or this

566
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: thing has history and this is the reason why it's

567
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: the way it is. But I also think that they

568
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: was killing niggas in the movies first, right, yes, shout.

569
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: Out Tolo coolj and bust the rhymes for right and

570
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: what's his name?

571
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Kelly Rowland, but Freddy killed her. No,

572
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: Freddie killed her as it was Jason that killed her

573
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: because she was roasting him and Jason smashter shit.

574
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: But no. I love the fact that there are more

575
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: people in this than when I first started, because honestly,

576
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: like people were looking at me like what are you

577
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: doing here? Another thing that kind of gave me the

578
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: inspiration to kind of keep going. The Ghost Brothers, I

579
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: don't know if you're familiar with them, I fucking love them.

580
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: Dayalen is my guy, Like, I'm so thankful to have him.

581
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: I call him my ghost brother, Like me and him

582
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: are like ghost brother and sister from another mother and mister.

583
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: They're like, honestly, the ghost Brothers are hilarious. I've met

584
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: all of them. They are fantastic, and they kind of

585
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: just pushed me to just keep going and keep being

586
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: who I am because me myself, I never thought that

587
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: I was a weirdo. I never thought that I was

588
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: weird for the stuff that I liked. But it's so

589
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: nice to see people that are just like me, or

590
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: even the opposite of me, being comfortable in this sort

591
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: of space. I've had people message me and come up

592
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: to me and say, like I've gone to like paranormal

593
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: conventions and stuff, and they're like, I'm so happy you're

594
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: doing this. You are doing a fantastic job.

595
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: And I always get kind of taken back by that

596
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: because I don't see myself as like an inspiration to

597
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: anybody but myself.

598
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: You know.

599
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I'm my biggest fan because I

600
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: just should.

601
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't feel like anybody needs to be on

602
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: my team. Anybody needs to be a fan of mine

603
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: or want to take pictures with me and stuff I don't.

604
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: I'm in my head, I'm like, I don't even have

605
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: a bunch of followers. I don't have that much of

606
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 2: social media sort of like content creator presence.

607
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: But you have impact though, because I feel like now

608
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: it makes sense why because when we was, when I

609
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: was dming you, you asked me how did you find me?

610
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you mean? Like you're a

611
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: mad fucking dope. It wasn't hard to find you because

612
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: there isn't a lot of women that look like us

613
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: in this industry. But when I was doing my research,

614
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, she's fucking fire, Like you know your

615
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: history and not for nothing. I feel like, like I

616
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: really believe in what you're doing.

617
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: I wholeheartedly appreciate that.

618
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, because like I said, I just do this

619
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: because it's fun for me. I have such a good

620
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: time and it doesn't seem like it's work. It just

621
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: seems like it's just it's just fun. It looks like

622
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: it's fun. Yeah it is.

623
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: There's nothing is ever the same. It's never the same.

624
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: You get to meet different people, you get to go

625
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: to all these really cool historical places, like a couple

626
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: of weekends ago, I was just at the Moundsville Penitentiary

627
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: and Moundsville, West Virginia. That place is massive, and they

628
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: had a convention there and I had people like, oh

629
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: my gosh, yeah with you, and like people that have bigger,

630
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: like social media presences than me. We're like, oh, you're

631
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: I've heard of you, I've seen you, like you're dope,

632
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: and and it's just always takes me back because it's like,

633
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: I don't I know that I'm cool. I know that

634
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm that bitch, but I'm.

635
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: I know I have I very much have main character energy.

636
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie about that. I'm not going to hide that.

637
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: But I never think.

638
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: That anybody knows who I am in that sort of

639
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: community and that in the paranormal community. I just do

640
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: it for me. I don't do it for anybody else.

641
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: I just do it to make me happy. And just

642
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: the fact that there are people that are bigger than

643
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: me or people in general that I can make happy

644
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: in this or like give inspiration to. It's definitely very

645
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: much humbling and makes my heart sing.

646
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I always say,

647
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm my biggest fan, and I'm also your fan. And

648
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: two more good questions because it just came to my mind,

649
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: now again, in your business, is this industry lucrative or

650
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: does it depends on exactly what you're doing, which space

651
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: you're doing in that And.

652
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: Yes, it depends on what you're doing and the space

653
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: you're doing it in. Luckily, I have been very not

654
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: so much lucrative in that sort of way, but I

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Speaker 2: have been able to make money off of doing this.

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Speaker 2: Paranormal investigating is a very expensive hobby. I always stress

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Speaker 2: that to people. These pieces of equipment back here, probably

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Speaker 2: they're not cheap. Probably between the two of them that's

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Speaker 2: five hundred dollars. So it's it's not a cheap hobby

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Speaker 2: to have. It's not a cheap profession to have. Which

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Speaker 2: is why if you see YouTubers and stuff YouTubers and

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Speaker 2: TV shows and stuff like that, they have these big,

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Speaker 2: like kind of bigger productions and they have the lighting

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Speaker 2: and they have this because they're trying to kind of

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Speaker 2: make a name for themselves. They're trying to get the

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Speaker 2: word out there about all the spooky stuff that they do.

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Speaker 2: But also obviously if you have followers and people that

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Speaker 2: like and subscribe and stuff, that kind of upshare revenue. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it helps financially, it does. But luckily with this business

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Speaker 2: with HIT and Marietta, I have been able to not

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Speaker 2: only do public ghost hunts for people here in this building,

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Speaker 2: but also a few other places. We do private investigations

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Speaker 2: as well, which people pay a little bit more for that.

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Speaker 2: We also have a shop here in the building too,

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Speaker 2: where we sell clothing. We sell like goddess candles, like

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Speaker 2: little like body like hew like persons, clothing, we sell

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00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 2: terror cards, we sell spiritual things. We do all sorts

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Speaker 2: of stuff. So it is lucrative. It well, it makes

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Speaker 2: you money. It makes you money. It helps me sustain

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Speaker 2: like my life and stuff like that. But it's lucrative

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Speaker 2: and the connections that I'm able to make not only

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Speaker 2: with the customers that come in and the people that

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Speaker 2: do investigations with us, but also with my team in general.

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Speaker 2: Like if you look up like reviews of Hitting Marietta online,

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Speaker 2: like thankfully, people have been very kind to us, and

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Speaker 2: we're very good at what we do and we take

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Speaker 2: pride in that. And if we do get a person

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Speaker 2: that's like a one star and they're like, oh, they

689
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: did a horrible job, then we'll reach out to them

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00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: we'll reach out to them, and you're like, well, what

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Speaker 2: can we do to change the experience of like either

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Speaker 2: you if you want to return to us or come in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to.

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Speaker 2: We're always striving to do better and be better, and

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Speaker 2: we just don't have a ceiling. We're just going to

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Speaker 2: keep going up, honestly.

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Speaker 1: And my last question, where do you see yourself in

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Speaker 1: this industry within the next five or ten years? Because

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00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: I see you a TV show, maybe a book. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm serious, I'm serious, Like, I really do believe in

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. Like, I'm so happy that I was

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00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: able to find you. And you know, obviously after this

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00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: we will continue to grow foster our relationship. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: really I really think you got you you got some potential.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I also have potential. I do feel

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Speaker 2: as though this could be my every day and my

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Speaker 2: in some way, shape or form. Of course, I like

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00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: to sort of manifest things in my life to kind

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00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: of be prosperous and be just taking care of all around.

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00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, whatever happens happens, and

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00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 2: I am just going to leave it in the hands

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00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: of a higher power. I have my own dreams and

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00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: aspirations that I typically like to keep to myself because

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00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: sometimes if you tell your ops what you planning on doing,

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00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna try to they're gonna try to take down.

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Speaker 2: But when you protected and when you want to, God's

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00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: favorite exactly. So I definitely have dreams and aspirations for myself,

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Speaker 2: and I do you see myself on those levels, which

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Speaker 2: would be fantastic, But ultimately it's it's not my decision.

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Speaker 2: I Am just gonna let whatever happens happen and just

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Speaker 2: be happy with what I get. At the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, if this ends up not working out, I

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Speaker 2: still have my husband, I still have my kids, I

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Speaker 2: still have my family, i still have a roof over

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Speaker 2: my head, and I'm still happy. I'm going to be

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00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: happy no matter what. And if my happiness means that

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00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: this becomes something bigger than me, then so be it.

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00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: If my happiness is just working a nine to five

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00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: and or being a stay at home mom, and so

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Speaker 2: be it.

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Speaker 1: This ain't nothing like being to stay at home mom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I got time today, and I know I know, girl,

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Speaker 1: Listen well, I am so appreciative of you. I'm so

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Speaker 1: thankful that we were able to connect. I wish y'all

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Speaker 1: could see this, because like, it is so bright where

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Speaker 1: I'm met and it is so dark where she's at.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I appreciate you. I think

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Speaker 1: this was an excellent conversation and I'm so excited for

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