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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health. All Right,

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Speaker 1: welcome into a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you as always, Thanks for making us

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Speaker 1: a part of your afternoon. Plenty to get to today,

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Speaker 1: another day on the practice field for the players. As

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Speaker 1: we well know, we're all ringing out our clothes because

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Speaker 1: it has not stopped raining for approximately thirty six hours. Right,

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Speaker 1: players are back inside in the field house, practicing indoors

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Speaker 1: because outside it is a mess. It is another good

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Speaker 1: day to be a duck here in western New York. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not raining in the north towns. It's basically South

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Speaker 1: towns and down to the southern tier is where the

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Speaker 1: rain is persisting. It's the Lake Effect rain, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's why it's still going, which I suppose

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Speaker 1: is better than snow this time of year. But what

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Speaker 1: do I know.

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Speaker 2: As much as me, Well, I'm so there's that. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's we got off easy in September. Let's all face it.

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Speaker 1: It was September.

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable, spectacular month.

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Speaker 1: The same we're playing with house money.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, So you know I can live with a

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Speaker 2: little bit of precipitation here in the third week of October.

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Speaker 1: Right, Uh. I cannot wrap my head around the gambling NBA.

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Speaker 1: I wake up this morning, I you know, I scroll up,

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Speaker 1: you know, I hop up X with my phone and

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Speaker 1: I do follow two or three NBA reporters, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what now, whoa what? What? One of the players is

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Speaker 1: getting arrested. I mean and Steve you know as well

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Speaker 1: as I do. It's one thing to get arrested by

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Speaker 1: the police. But when you see people getting arrested by

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Speaker 1: the Feds, they're going to jail down, They're going, right.

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Speaker 1: You don't usually escape the federal authorities because they have

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Speaker 1: gone the extra mile with the investigation.

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Speaker 2: They they don't move until they got you. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: and at least in stuff like this that is yeah that.

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Speaker 1: It's reportedly a four year investigation by the FBI into

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Speaker 1: an illegal gambling probe that involves the mafia NBA players.

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Speaker 1: It's just it is something and I'm not passing judgment

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Speaker 1: on anybody. I just know when the Feds show up,

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Speaker 1: it's usually not a good ending. Like you could have

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Speaker 1: the best attorney in the universe, and it does not

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Speaker 1: matter when federal authorities are the ones arresting you. You

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Speaker 1: are done like dinner.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's and you know a head coach and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah Portland Trailblazes, you're in Chauncey Billips.

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Speaker 2: So it's not a I guess, and I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 2: I just listened to rich Eyesen pontificate about this and

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Speaker 2: a clip from his show. It doesn't appeal. It appears

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Speaker 2: that it's not like these guys just going to a

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Speaker 2: sports book and betting, right, It's something other than that.

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Speaker 1: Although celebrity sounds like it was used as leverage to

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Speaker 1: create a high stakes poker ring that was fixed. That

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Speaker 1: was fixed as well, which is just so beautiful. Here's Steve.

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Speaker 1: This is this is where my mind goes. This is

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Speaker 1: where my head goes when I think about these things.

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Speaker 1: I see this story. It's a bombshell for the NBA,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking of poor Adam Silver, the commissioner of

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Guys all over the place the last four days,

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Speaker 1: right this kickoff of the season. You know, we're back

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Speaker 1: on NBC for NBA games. We're bringing the John Tesh

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Speaker 1: song back, you like the whole thing, and he's pumping

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Speaker 1: the league up like Charles Berkley dropped wait for the opening. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so all of this is going on. The league kicks

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Speaker 1: off Tuesday night. Here we are Thursday morning.

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Speaker 2: It's two days later and wait, wait, wait, and boom,

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Speaker 2: the FBI's banging.

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Speaker 1: Let's go on the floor. Can you imagine Adam Silver

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Speaker 1: waking up this morning checking his phone and he's sitting

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Speaker 1: there going, oh my god, are you kidding me? Seriously,

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Speaker 1: like you can't even get past Thanksgiving? You can't get

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Speaker 1: pass He's Halloween. You got this dropped in your lap.

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Speaker 1: I feel so bad for that guy. He's just he's

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Speaker 1: got to be sitting there going, what kind of idiots

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Speaker 1: for Adam Silvertoy. Oh he's trying to, you know, elevate

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Speaker 1: the league. He's got a collective bargaining agreement he's got

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Speaker 1: to renegotiate. It's just, oh my god, now this yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's something I tell you. So that one

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Speaker 2: Kind of don't kind of puts Cooper Flag's debut on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had so he had his first game last

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Speaker 1: night and he struggled and I actually saw him last March.

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Speaker 1: of what you would expect in a number one draft pick.

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Speaker 1: Struggles last night. So that's all the headlines, you know,

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Speaker 1: last night into the overnight hours until about six am. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: till the Flag's game is forgotten. A happy guy today.

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Speaker 3: VJ.

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Speaker 2: Edgecomb, who you know, set a Sixers record with thirty

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Speaker 2: four points in a rookie debut, most since Wilt Chamberlain

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Speaker 2: yea in nineteen fifty.

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Speaker 1: And no one's gonna no one cares, no one's gonna remember,

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Speaker 1: no one care for the next week. Oh that was

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Speaker 1: a bombshell, a bombshell. But we're not here to talk

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Speaker 1: NBA as as you know, as luck would have, as

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Speaker 1: tabloid headline grabbing as that might be. We are here

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Speaker 1: obviously to talk football.

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Speaker 2: They arrested thirty four people, Brownie, I'm telling you thirty there.

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Speaker 1: They the Feds do not arrest people unless they have

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Speaker 1: you dead to rights, dead to rightline.

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Speaker 2: The over under on how many of those thirty four

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Speaker 2: de jail time thirty three, let's set the odds thirty three.

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Speaker 1: I don't know because the Feds don't because that is.

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Speaker 2: Billups and Rosier and those guys will say I didn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and look maybe they do. Maybe they do

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Speaker 1: have an innocent role in the whole thing. I think

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Speaker 1: their celebrity was leveraged against gamblers to look them to

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Speaker 1: play in a high stakes poker game. Hey, sit down

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Speaker 1: with Chauncey Billups, head coach of the Blazers. You know,

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Speaker 1: but you gotta pay. It's a fifty thousand dollars buy

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Speaker 1: in though. Yeah, like that's probably how they leverage billups celebrity.

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Speaker 1: Now what was he getting because I'm assuming he's getting

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Speaker 1: some kickbacks for his celebrity, but we'll find it.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it wasn't a sanction whatever way you slice it. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: it sounds like.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty dirty money. But in any event, absolutely so.

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Speaker 1: Let the legal system take its course.

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Speaker 2: There's a there's a gonna be a coaching opening here

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Speaker 1: I think there could be very soon.

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Speaker 2: His name is off the list for that probably. How

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Speaker 2: fast do the Portland Trailblazers cut ties with Chauncey Bills? Well,

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Speaker 2: if they haven't.

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Speaker 1: Already, it'll start today with you know, he's either on

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Speaker 1: administrative leave because you know, you gotta have come up

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Speaker 1: with an immediate answer. Then you got to huddle up

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Speaker 1: But the immediate answer is.

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Speaker 2: It's not been It's not let me say, it's not

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Speaker 2: an organizational decision. It's the got top guy ownership. And

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Speaker 2: he comes in and says, hey, you're fired.

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Speaker 1: That could happen.

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Speaker 2: You got arrested by the FBI. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: it's for parking unpaid parking tickets. You're fired. You're fired.

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Speaker 2: That's that would have that would have been done when

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Speaker 2: the doors bust open at six oh one, by before.

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Speaker 1: They put the guy in the cop car, He's fired. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: could be swift, could be swift, dude. I am four

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Speaker 1: year investigation covering eleven states. Here's the thing and involving

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Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing most people don't have. I was

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Speaker 2: part of the NFL for a long time, and even

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Speaker 2: back thirty years ago, before gambling was sports gambling was

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Speaker 2: legal the way it is now. We would have police

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Speaker 2: a formal meeting. They would come in and present to us.

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Speaker 4: Why it's illegal, why it's a bad idea, how you're

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Speaker 4: not gonna get away with it, how.

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Speaker 2: They look out for it, they will find out about it.

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Speaker 2: There's no you know, the whole thing year after year

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Speaker 2: gets ingrained. And now that sports betting is so widespread.

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Speaker 1: And legal states.

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Speaker 2: Brownie and I too, Chris and I are both and

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Speaker 2: all the employee, the coaches, the players, the trainers, the equipment,

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Speaker 2: the sports science. Everybody in the room is it.

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Speaker 1: Is forbidden campaign.

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Speaker 2: It's forbidden to bet on anything. You can't. You can't

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Speaker 1: We can't even sit in a sports book.

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Speaker 2: You can't go into sportsbook. I don't care if you're

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Speaker 2: gonn to bet on the dogs, you can't.

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Speaker 1: No, no animal betting either you no.

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Speaker 2: None of that. It's forbidden.

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Speaker 1: So to say you are allowed to play fantasy football

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Speaker 1: provided you don't win more than two hundred.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred bucks. You can win two hundred bucks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can only win two undred bucks. Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: So I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know how you have an out like, oh, I didn't know, right,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was okay, I wasn't betting on basketball.

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Speaker 1: No, you can't pull a Pete Rose here.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: You're going to get off.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get off. It is absolutely forbidden

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Speaker 2: and everybody knows it. Yeah, you can't even Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: so there you go. Bad day, bad day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was a bombshell. So that was something else.

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Speaker 2: How long has it been legalized, like ten years? I

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Speaker 2: don't know because it was at the end of my career.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that long. When the when the

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Speaker 2: NFL started having draft kings and fan duel and all

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Speaker 2: the all the you know, the legitimate sports books that

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Speaker 2: come in and advertising and all that that started.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think they were sponsors of the league

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Speaker 1: until about seven seventeen eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's been pushed between five and ten years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhere in there.

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Speaker 2: How is it? Are we ever going to got it?

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Speaker 2: We're going to see this, right, So there's going to

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Speaker 2: be some hammerhead out there that's going to do something stupid.

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Speaker 1: Well the first couple of years, like Jamison Williams was

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Speaker 1: betting inside the Detroit Lions facility on some games a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, had to serve a six game suspension.

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Speaker 1: I think there were a couple other Lions playing.

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Speaker 2: Guys did something similar stuff things. Yeah, so yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: not even allowed to get on the and.

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Speaker 1: Alvin Ridley lost a whole year of playing. That's right

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Speaker 1: with the Falcons, that's right for a bet non game,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah he missed a whole season, which woke

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Speaker 1: a lot of other people up, like, oh, maybe I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be doing this because that guy just cost himself

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Speaker 1: eight million dollars. They don't even do it like in

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Speaker 1: their off time. Yeah. Right, So what do you do

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Speaker 1: if you forget and leave the app open on your phone?

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Speaker 1: You're done? Yeah, because the the app can trace not

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Speaker 1: In other Bills news, the Seniors Committee Liz for the

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Speaker 1: I think it's eighty. I think it's eighty percent.

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Speaker 1: But well, they're the guys that are going to meet

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Speaker 1: so you got an ally in that room, we think, right.

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Speaker 2: I should slip him a couple of bucks man, come on,

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Speaker 2: firm pump me up, bud. No, don't do that.

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Speaker 1: The FBI could be listening.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's rights break in.

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Speaker 1: We interrupt one. Bills live for a Yeah, don't do that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's go around the NFL, which is presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 1: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Steelers quarterback

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers doesn't view Sunday Nights meeting against the Green

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Speaker 1: just excited to see some of those guys and be

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Speaker 2: There is exactly the word I was gonna use. Cynical.

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Speaker 1: Just say bull dinkies on that one. He wants to

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Speaker 2: He wants it. He wants it to be the Steelers

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Speaker 2: I think that's the way it is, man. I he's right.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, you know, Aaron Rodgers not my

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Speaker 2: You've heard me say this a gazillion times, Brian, So

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Speaker 1: family members, that has not gone well. Everybody's got problems

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Speaker 1: with family, we know that, but that's a very public

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Speaker 1: thing for a very public figure. But to hear his teammate,

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Speaker 1: his former teammate talk that way about him, I thought.

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Speaker 2: That was very It was very id to me. It's

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Speaker 2: very tell it will tell you all you need to

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Speaker 2: know about the guy. If there if the guys he

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Speaker 2: was in that environment with have good things to say

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Speaker 2: about him. I mean, because nobody's one hundred percent good,

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Speaker 2: they'll there'll always be somebody in the locker room or

443
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Speaker 2: whatever they go he's just okay, or I didn't know

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Speaker 2: him that well, or whatever whatever, or there was one

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Speaker 2: time when he could have done something good and he didn't,

446
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Speaker 2: or you know, everybody has a bad moment. But when

447
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Speaker 2: you get the consensus from guys like that around him,

448
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Speaker 2: who lived and work with him, who say no, no,

449
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Speaker 2: he's a great dude. I you know, I owe him something.

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Speaker 2: You know, I learned something from him. He helped me.

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Speaker 2: That's that tells you the core of who these guys are,

452
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Speaker 2: because I'll say it again, you cannot hide your who

453
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Speaker 2: you are and what you are in an NFL locker

454
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Speaker 2: room when you live and work there.

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Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are still licking their wounds, as

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Speaker 1: most of their injuries are the key skilled position players

457
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Speaker 1: on offense. Wide receiver Mike Evans formally placed on ir

458
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Speaker 1: as he will undergo surgery this week for his broken

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Speaker 1: collar bone. They're hoping he gets back at the end

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Speaker 1: of the regular season. Outside linebacker Hassan Reddick also injured

461
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Speaker 1: last Monday night and is going to miss some time.

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Speaker 1: According to head coach Todd Bowles, Tampa will be without

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Speaker 1: running back Bucky Irving and wide receiver Chris Godwin again

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Speaker 1: this week when they take on the Saints. They've also

465
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Speaker 1: been without wide receiver Jalen McMillan since the preseason with

466
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Speaker 1: a neck injury. And I have to check and see

467
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Speaker 1: if a Mecca Abuka comes back from his hamstring. They're

468
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Speaker 1: basically down their top four receivers. It's insane and they're

469
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Speaker 1: still what five and two? I think? So, Yeah, they

470
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Speaker 1: to putting it together with duct tape and staples.

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Speaker 2: But took it on the chin. The Niners gave him

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Speaker 2: a big haymaker. Yeah last weekend and they couldn't survive

473
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Speaker 2: as they lost that game. But yeah, they're still hanging

474
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Speaker 2: tough and Baker has been the glue that has got

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Speaker 2: him through it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was Atlanta that lost to sanfran sucks lost

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Speaker 1: to the Lion. The Lions.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, I'm sorry the Lions.

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Speaker 1: And according to NFL reporters, the Miami Dolphins could be

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Speaker 1: ready to trade a couple of their veteran edge rushers.

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Speaker 1: Both Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips could be on the

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Speaker 1: trade block. The Dolphins reportedly have no plans to trade

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Jalen Waddle, though they've been taking a lot

484
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Speaker 1: of calls for him. Another player on other team's radar

485
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Speaker 1: on the Dolphins roster safety Minca Fitzpatrick. So keep an

486
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Speaker 1: ear to the ground as the trade deadline fast approaches.

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Speaker 1: It's November fourth, a couple of weeks away, so we'll

488
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Speaker 1: see what happens between now and then. Around the league.

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Speaker 1: Some teams will be wheeling and dealing, both the teams

490
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Speaker 1: that don't have as many wins and their season is

491
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Speaker 1: just about over, and teams looking to go for it.

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Speaker 2: We are seeing in this day and age, way more

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Speaker 2: activity on the trade front than we have we saw

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Speaker 2: in decades past.

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Speaker 1: It's getting more and more active. As they oh, ten

496
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Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, there were no true none, Nobody remember

497
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Speaker 1: when the Kelvin Shephard Jerry Hughes trade happened. We're like, wow,

498
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Speaker 1: what right, what the heck? Calvin Shepherd and Jerry U Wow,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was a huge thing.

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Speaker 2: That's because trades rarely happening now, I'm very common now

501
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: it is, and I like it better this way.

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Speaker 1: It's more fun. It is more fun because I'm on

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Speaker 1: this side of it. Well, right, we got to take

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Speaker 1: a break here, but when we come back, the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Thurman Thomas is gonna join us in studio.

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Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts on where the bills are headed

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Speaker 1: here post by when we return on One Bill's Line

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Speaker 1: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Back here

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live Chris Brown, Steve Tasker and joining

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Speaker 1: studio now by the Hall of Famer Therm and Thomas

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Speaker 1: making his weekly visit here at One Bills Drive. How

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Speaker 1: are we doing, Therm? You dance between the rain drops

513
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Speaker 1: to get here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much been dancing, says yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Right, oh yeah, oh yeah. Well the bills are eight

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Speaker 1: and no off the bye under Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Are you feeling bullish about this week? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm feeling tell me why? Really good?

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00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: We got to start a plan better. Yeah, we have

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Speaker 3: to start a plan beat.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't reach my microphone.

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Speaker 2: That's just the way it is if they'd stop getting

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Speaker 2: penalties and turning over, they wouldn't look so sloppy and

525
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Speaker 2: they play a lot better and they's score more points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they haven't done things that they usually do.

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Speaker 5: They usually do penalties, and penalties has been one of them.

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Speaker 2: Thirty penalties over the last three games. That's that's an expand,

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Speaker 2: Marv from an undisciplined.

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Speaker 3: Pillar like you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, had ties my career. I mean two, wow, two,

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Speaker 5: that's the kind of stuff you kind.

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Speaker 1: Of had one. I got thrown out for it and

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Speaker 1: I stopped.

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Speaker 3: That was That was the best penalty ever though.

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Speaker 1: Probably saved me a busted leg.

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Speaker 3: I looked at Chris.

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Speaker 5: Somebody said, we're Steve Gord to see he got kicked

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Speaker 5: out of the game.

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Speaker 3: This is his last game.

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Speaker 2: I left early.

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Speaker 1: I apologize Mike, carry I go Mike.

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Speaker 2: Did I get thrown out? He goes Steve and the

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Speaker 2: right then, and he said that. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: he goes Steve. I know you didn't mean to do it,

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Speaker 2: but my guy threw the flag and I got a

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Speaker 2: call on it and I and I didn't even ask

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Speaker 2: why I got thrown out because I just I didn't

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Speaker 2: realize how he you know, even and I barely touched

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Speaker 2: the guy. But that's why I got thrown out. And

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Speaker 2: I said, Mike, man, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to

552
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Speaker 2: put you in that.

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Speaker 1: I felt bad because he had to.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was the only team captain, you know, Bruce,

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Speaker 2: and you got you guys sent me out there. It's

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Speaker 2: like me Brett fav Reggie White, Travis Jervy, the three

557
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: Green Bay can They're all like, hey, Steve, great career.

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Speaker 2: You're all seven officials come up and shake my head.

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Speaker 2: Like five minutes later, you're being like, donkey, get out,

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Speaker 2: get out.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm sorry. So then they had some uh.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, why not forget that?

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Speaker 1: Then Sarah called wait think she was.

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Speaker 2: What do you think my wife thought at home when

565
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Speaker 2: she got all the all the wives at her house

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Speaker 2: and her husband gets thrown out.

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Speaker 1: Man, I had to deal with that fire storm. You

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Speaker 1: did have a nice lunch though, up in the tunnel. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's walking up the tunnel and one of the security

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Speaker 1: guys in the tunnel, it was like it was a

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Speaker 1: locker room room attendant.

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Speaker 2: And he said, you know, hey, come on, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: have a sandwich.

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Speaker 1: You think of it? They watched the game on TV. Together. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was this. The TV was like twelve minutes. So

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Speaker 1: that's a classic.

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Speaker 3: That's a classic.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, Therm, I want to know what your thoughts

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Speaker 1: are en Rico Dowdell, because the guy steps in for

580
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Speaker 1: an injured Chuba Hubbard and he's ripping off two hundred

581
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Speaker 1: yard games from scrimmage and making it look easy. I

582
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Speaker 1: mean two of his last three starts two hundred yards

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Speaker 1: from scrimmage now. One of them's against Miami, who couldn't

584
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Speaker 1: stop a clock right now, and the other ones against

585
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Speaker 1: Dallas who has a porous defense. But Chuba Hubbard comes

586
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Speaker 1: back last week and he's more of the grinder guy

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Speaker 1: between the tackles. Dawdell's got wiggle and shake and breakaway speed.

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Speaker 1: I am stunned that they're even playing Hubbard as much

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Speaker 1: as they are, Thuram. Why is how does Dowdell have

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Speaker 1: two two hundred yard games and he's sharing the ball.

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Speaker 5: I was watching that last week and I was like, man,

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Speaker 5: Hubbard is in the game a lot and coming off

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Speaker 5: of injury, and I'm like, oh my god, you got

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Speaker 5: this guy who's been over two hundred yards past two games.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, he's a starter, he's catching.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you go.

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Speaker 3: I think if you do that, the locker room will

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Speaker 3: be like, okay, no problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and off the line would be like I get

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Speaker 1: it too, let's go.

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Speaker 2: And that's important to you. He kind of kind of

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Speaker 2: you gotta kind of And we don't know, but the

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Speaker 2: locker room does have a kind of a voice in

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Speaker 2: that you've got because the coaches are trying to think,

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Speaker 2: what are they gonna think, you know, trying to anticipate

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Speaker 2: the reaction of not playing doubt when he's so when

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Speaker 2: he's like crushing.

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Speaker 5: And the other day, I can say what that is

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Speaker 5: at because Shower got a nice contract last year.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say this. I

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Speaker 1: tried to drill down on it a little to get

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Speaker 1: to try to figure out why Hubbard got as much

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Speaker 1: time as he did last week against the Jets. So

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Speaker 1: first of all, he was a thousand yard rusher last year.

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Speaker 6: YEP.

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Speaker 1: I think it's clear we can all see he is

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Speaker 1: not the same athlete as Rico Dudell, but he is

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Speaker 1: a veteran in that room, and he's a respected player

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Speaker 1: in that room, and so I think Dave Canalis is

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Speaker 1: trying to walk a line here where he doesn't just

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Speaker 1: say you lose your job outright to injury. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you ignore the production. This guy's helping

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Speaker 1: you win football games.

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Speaker 3: Tom Braden and Drew Bletzel. You're out there, Rico, and

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Speaker 3: you're on a bitch and you're still going to remember.

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Speaker 1: And one more thing, I think if Hubbard plays that

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Speaker 1: much this week, you're helping the Bills because Dowdell's not

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Speaker 1: on the field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got to remember too, Dowdell is a

630
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Speaker 2: Carolina Panther because he expected to get paid by the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys and they and Jerry didn't want to do it

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Speaker 2: for whatever reason, but he had earned it with the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys and was said, well forget it, then I'm out.

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00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: And now that's how the Carolina Panthers got him. So

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Speaker 2: he was a quality back last year with Dallas and

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Speaker 2: now he's showing exactly the same thing with Carolina and

637
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: now and you're right, we had on uh Niece shrab

638
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Speaker 2: Trough last yesterday the play by play of the Panthers

639
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: and they said, you know, these are first world problems.

640
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: They got two guys that are killing it and they

641
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Speaker 2: got to decide on one in.

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Speaker 1: The league and rushing that team. I mean, the Bills

643
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: are first, Carolina's third, though they can run the ball,

644
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Speaker 1: and we're having this is just the kind of game

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Speaker 1: you'd like to watch there. Yeah, yeah it is.

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Speaker 2: I would kick it off of one oh seven.

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Speaker 1: It will be over at two twenty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. So this is uh, you know, I mean

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Speaker 5: it's and look, I love Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 3: Better veteran guy, probably gonna be, probably.

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Speaker 5: Gonna sort And it was like when we talked about

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Speaker 5: with the Jets, you would want fields to throw the

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Speaker 5: ball forty times. Yeah, Andy Dalton doesn't want.

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Speaker 3: To throw it forty times. He wants to hand it off.

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Speaker 2: And I think, and what do you think though, you

656
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Speaker 2: and I'm not I'm not disparaging. I don't know. I

657
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: almost am more afraid of Andy Dalton than I am

658
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Speaker 2: Bryce Young because Andy just nothing's gonna surprise him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not going to extend plays either, exactly.

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Speaker 3: And I think Bryce was and I think Bryce was

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Speaker 3: coming into for.

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Speaker 2: Bryce while Bryce is running around and he's already thrown

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Speaker 2: it for completion in the.

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Speaker 1: Bills six touchdown, six picks. I get all that he

665
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Speaker 1: might give us a couple.

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Speaker 3: I get all of that, and we need a couple,

667
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: and we need a couple of two. If so, ill

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Speaker 3: you look, he can probably win.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young and Andy Dalton, we're both ten year vets on

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Speaker 2: the team.

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Speaker 1: Who's playing. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I don't know Bryce ten. Yeah,

673
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: we don't know what he's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: He's the same guy this now if he said.

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Speaker 3: No, he's not gonna be the same game can't now

676
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: because he's gonna they're gonna get better players. I mean,

677
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: they're gonna get better as a team. Right now. They're

678
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: in the ball game every single week. They're winning game.

679
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Speaker 3: They're running a football.

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Speaker 5: You don't think that offensive line is looking at like, okay,

681
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Speaker 5: these guys.

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Speaker 3: They can't stop the run.

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Speaker 2: They're a half game behind the Bills.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're four and three three Yeah, at home, which

685
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Speaker 5: is gonna be probably guy.

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Speaker 2: I just say this, The veteran guy scares me because

687
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: he's gonna get the ball out of his hands, get it.

688
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: And now Bryce Young has got to you know, obviously

689
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Speaker 2: he's got a bigger upside and he can't extend plays.

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Speaker 2: But I think one of the reasons he extends plays

691
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: because he's not seeing it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's all.

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Speaker 2: I'm that's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's as much as you want to. Let me.

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Speaker 3: Let me call the Hall of Fame back and take

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Speaker 3: my vote away.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, let me just let's rehash task for one

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Speaker 2: more time before we exclude him.

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Speaker 1: So them, what part of the Atlanta performance was most

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Speaker 1: alarming to you? Was it? I'm gonna give you a

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00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: few choices here, multiple choice answer. Was it the persistence

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Speaker 1: of mistackles? Was it the penalties? Was it the past

703
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Speaker 1: protection or was it a lot of long down and

704
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: distant situations for the offense? What what kind of troubled

705
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Speaker 1: you the most watching it live?

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Speaker 3: I think for me it was it was probably past protection.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Josh usually has that buttoned up like he's

708
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Speaker 1: a sharp player, and he usually has the protections buttoned up.

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Speaker 3: He usually does have the protections button up, like you said.

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Speaker 5: And uh, it was just something about the Atlanta front

711
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 5: four man that they came after you, and it just

712
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 5: seemed like Josh didn't see like, Okay, you got three

713
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: over here, but you got two of us guys, so

714
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Speaker 5: they might blitz. But and it just seemed like he

715
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 5: didn't pick that up right away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it was the confines of the

718
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Speaker 5: Mercedes Ben's dorm or whatever, but it just didn't see.

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Speaker 3: And these guys are I mean they got after us.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the highest blitzery team in the league. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's over forty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we didn't. We just didn't make plays when

723
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Speaker 5: we had to. But I think past protection was huge.

724
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Speaker 3: I mean we didn't what did we see maybe a

725
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Speaker 3: scrambler two.

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Speaker 5: From Josh he ran for over forty yards for forty yards, right,

727
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: but it just seems like, you know, even with that blitz,

728
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Speaker 5: like he could have had more. It just seemed like

729
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Speaker 5: he just didn't see where it was coming from. I mean,

730
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Speaker 5: they disguised it very very well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a couple of high.

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Speaker 5: And it was and it was like when the ball

733
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 5: would snap, his feet were already moving like they were

734
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Speaker 5: getting a push in the middle.

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Speaker 3: All those Yeah, they had a great game. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how many sacks they got or whatever,

737
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Speaker 5: but they sure they sacked as soon as they snapped

738
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Speaker 5: the ball.

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Speaker 3: I mean the guards were you know, they were backpedder.

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Speaker 1: And upted the run game. The Bill's run game a

741
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: little bit too.

742
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what got him behind the sticks in

743
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: the in the first place, that the Bills were struggling

744
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: to get positive yards on early downs. And there was

745
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: a couple of highlights, even the ones we just were

746
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: looking at a minute ago, where you know, the ball

747
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: snapped and he drops back and you got you know,

748
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: Spencer Brown's over here on the right side and he

749
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: has nobody to b and somebody's running free up the

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00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: up the you know, the sea gap over here. They

751
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 2: just missed it a couple of times. And then there's

752
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: a couple of times when there was Josh wanted to

753
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: rip the ball out of there, and there was nobody

754
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: to rip it to. So I think it was a

755
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: wide ranging set of problems that they had that they

756
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: all manifest when you score fourteen points in NFL game

757
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: this team something's going on.

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Speaker 5: And then do you think, and I've said this and

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Speaker 5: I'll continue to see it, do you think because of

760
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 5: all the blitz packages that they had, is why ty.

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00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: Was in the game.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think all of the third down, I think

763
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 5: they wanted a fourth down.

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Speaker 1: Well, we usually see Tye out there. He's the he's

765
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Speaker 1: the third down back and we usually see him in

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Speaker 1: two minutes. Drill and fans have been upset about this

767
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: because you just paid James got forty eight million dollars

768
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Speaker 1: and you're down in the game. He's your best at

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Speaker 1: lead on offense along with josh Allen and he's not

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Speaker 1: on the field. And on top of that, you don't

771
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Speaker 1: have Kincaid and you don't have Joshua Palmer, who out

772
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Speaker 1: of the game already. So we know that James Cook

773
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Speaker 1: is a more than capable pass catcher. Yeah, so what

774
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Speaker 1: do you say to you like Ty Johnson as your

775
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: best pass protect your fine, leave him in the backfield?

776
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: Can you split out James Cook? Can you go pony backfield? Like,

777
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: what do you say to that? Having you need your

778
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: best players on the field where you're down right.

779
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Speaker 3: You have to try it? Yeah, put tie it wide receiver,

780
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 3: just put him somewhere.

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Speaker 5: But I think, James, you have to have this guy

782
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Speaker 5: on the field.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get into it, but he needs

784
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Speaker 3: to be on a field.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we talked about it early in the season,

786
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Speaker 5: talking about, oh, we're using him too much.

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Speaker 3: That Yeah, well.

788
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Speaker 1: The Falcons weren't worried about using too much.

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Speaker 3: You know they were, not know they were. And I

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00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: can see why. I actually sat down and watched an

791
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Speaker 3: entire football game for.

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Speaker 5: One Yeah, the Bills, you know, I just I just

793
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 5: stayed there for three and four hours and just he's

794
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 5: good and they they're good, and they use him. Now

795
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 5: he's been in the league, this is third, third year. Now,

796
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 5: if he continued this trend, he's gonna take some pounding.

797
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: Like when they talk about the running back getting to thirty,

798
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: he get to thirty, he's gonna beat up if they

799
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 5: keep using him like this and don't get better players

800
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 5: to spread this around. Because passing game, running game, he's

801
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 5: out there all the time. He probably eighty eighty to

802
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 5: eighty five percent of their offense. He's doing it a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's the leading receiver.

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00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's leading Russia. Yeah. So I mean, but but

805
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 3: I do. I do tell you this though. I'm so

806
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: happy to see the running backs back in this league.

807
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Speaker 2: Baby, I have back in this and lick with Avenger

808
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: with a vengeance.

809
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: Public that kid in Detroit, Gibsie.

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00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: Last last two years ago, you were just an old

811
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: man yelling at the cloud. Now you're saying something. Now

812
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: you're saying there are touch at twenty times. Two years ago,

813
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: you were just an old man. Now you know what

814
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: you're talking.

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Speaker 1: I'm back, baby, Thanks for coming in. As always, we'll

816
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: catch up with you next week when they got another

817
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: big one on the horizon. Chiefs coming up in week nine.

818
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: We'll worry about Carolina first here, and I hope the

819
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: Bills get back on the winning track. That's the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Thurman Thomas joining us here as he does

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Speaker 1: every week on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's defensive line as both Larry Ogan Joby and Michael

826
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: Hoyt returned to the roster off suspension, and they are

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Speaker 1: much needed ring enforcements with some of the injuries up front,

828
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Speaker 1: particularly at defensive tackle. Daikwon Jones unlikely to play this

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Speaker 1: week with a calf injury that he suffered in pregame

830
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: warmups prior to the Atlanta game in Week six. Probably

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Speaker 1: not going to play this week, So Ogunjobi, you'll slide

832
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: right into his role. And right now Buffalo has counting

833
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: Ogunjobe three healthy defensive tackles on the roster. It's basically

834
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Speaker 1: him at Oliver and Dion Walker because TJ. Sanders and

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Carter are on I.

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Speaker 2: Now they could bring Jordan Phillips back up.

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Speaker 1: Zion log I think has been brought up the maximum

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00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: of three times already. After if they brought him up,

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Speaker 1: they'd have to sign him to the roster. They do

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Speaker 1: have an open roster spot, so that is an option,

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00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: and we'll have to see what they.

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00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: Ultimately may not Yeah, and it'll depend on what they

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00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: think if if they bring him up again, then they

844
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 2: have to sign him to the roster. They have to

845
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: leave him up for three weeks, which give Dayque enough

846
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: time to get back if they want to, you know,

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00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: take it easy and just go with Ogen Joby and

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00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: then yeah, or.

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Speaker 1: And then you haven't the riches at defensive end because

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00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: Hoyt joins the crew that already has Epenesa, Rousseau, Bosa Solomon,

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00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: and Landon Jackson, So he is the sixth defensive end.

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00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: Now Hoyt can play a couple other places. They can

853
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: line him up off the ball the second level as well.

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00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: He has done that.

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Speaker 2: I think it'll depend on Yeah, I don't know what

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00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: they will do at defensive end inactivate.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a couple of inactives, I would think.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know whether it's as easy as land

859
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: In Jackson, Javon Solomon or not, but they've both been

860
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: playing and they and Solomon and Jackson both play a

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00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 2: ton of special teams when they're up.

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00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: So hopefully the addition of Ogun, Joby and Hoyt will

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00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: have the D line heating up cooling down at least

864
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: based on the l performance pass protection. Getting the protections

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Speaker 1: lined up for that. Falcons pass rush was a bit

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00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: of a problem in the last game, and Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: who's been the least sacked quarterback each of the last

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Speaker 1: two seasons, has been hit a lot the last two games,

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Speaker 1: sacked three times by the Patriots, four times by the Falcons,

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00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: and pass protection has not been as buttoned up as

871
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: it has been for the better part of the last

872
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: two seasons. You usually don't see as many leaks in

873
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo's pass protection as we have seen the last couple

874
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: of games, so hopefully that gets rectified with the extra

875
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: time to pay it, you know, pay it some attention

876
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: during the bye. So there's that. Yeah, I expect it

877
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: to be better.

878
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: You've got to really tip your hat to Atlanta. They

879
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: brought it, and the Bills had didn't have enough answers

880
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: and didn't have the right answers. Even with Josh being

881
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: you know who he is and you know, having a

882
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: great season up to that point, they just could not

883
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: They could not get those guys blocked up front. And

884
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: you can bet that other teams are looking at.

885
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: That going, I don't know, we should do that.

886
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Caroline has got some defensive tackles that.

887
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: Can really go. Derek Brown is really Derek Brown is caliber. Yes,

888
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: he's a top five pick.

889
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: He's an elite talent, and he played like a last week.

890
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: Against the Jets. Let's not forget that's true. Yes, they

891
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: had two sacks, seven tackles, two passes batted at the

892
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I think he had five quarterback hits. Yeah, granted,

893
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: the Jets offense as a joke these days, but yeah,

894
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: he was in the backfield a lot. He was. Yeah,

895
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: he was a menace. Gotta have two guys on that.

896
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: Dude is he's not a guy to be blocked one

897
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: on one. Yeah, so he will need some extra attention

898
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: for sure.

899
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 2: So it's not going to get any easier for the Bills,

900
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: is the than it.

901
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: Was, although statistically the Panthers are thirty second in the

902
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: league pressure rate even after last week, which is shocking.

903
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah so yeah, but make it the Bills were scoring

904
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: thirty points up until two weeks ago.

905
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: Now they're not correct.

906
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 2: So it's a week to week league, and it's gonna

907
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: be two teams who don't see each other that often

908
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: trying to figure out on the fly.

909
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: We are almost an hour into the show and we've

910
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: neglected to tell you the topic of discussion today, which

911
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: is what do you expect from the Bill Sunday against

912
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: the Panthers coming off the bye. We know they have

913
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: a great record of success. As a matter of fact,

914
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: they're ten to zero coming off the bye in their

915
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: last ten seasons, so it's the longest active streak in

916
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: the league, and I think it's the second longest all

917
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: time post by since the bye week was introduced in

918
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety so even the last two years of Rex

919
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: they want after the bye week. So wow. And then

920
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: all eight of the post buys under McDermott, although only

921
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: one of those eight wins was on the road, was

922
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: at Kansas City in twenty twenty three when they won

923
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen. That was the game. Taron Johnson with

924
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: the pick at the end, passed pressure from von Miller

925
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: off the edge, and right after the interception, they cut

926
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: to coach McDermott on the sideline and he's got his

927
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: hands on his knees, you know, like one of those

928
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: coaching positions where they got their hands on their knees

929
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: and they're looking intently at the action on the field.

930
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: And let's not forget this is this is six and

931
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: six Buffalo coming off the by at Kansas City, and

932
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: after the interception they have a tight shot a coach

933
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: McDermott on the sideline and he's just giving the biggest

934
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: exhale you have ever seen in your life, Like show yeah,

935
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: because they could just kneel it out after that and

936
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: win the game. So huge win, wow for that one.

937
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: And the Bills are favored by a little I think

938
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: it's seven and a half maybe eight.

939
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: I saw it a couple of days ago. Was seven

940
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: and a half. It might have changed since then, But yeah.

941
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: And the average margin of victory for the Bills under

942
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott post buy nine point eight points per game,

943
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: so almost ten points. There have been some tighter ones

944
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: like that Chiefs game twenty to seventeen, but even the

945
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: odds makers thinks the Bills should win this thing by

946
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Gotta take a break here, But the phone

947
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: lines are open for you at ado three oh five

948
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty. What

949
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: do you expect from the Bill Sunday against the Panthers.

950
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: You let us know, open lines for you at three

951
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 1: oh five fifty and we're taking your phone calls. Next.

952
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live presented by Coliuda Health. It's

953
00:49:35,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. This One Bill's Live presented by Calida.

954
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: Help all right, second hour here on a Thursday. Chris Brown,

955
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. First, a correction, we had our

956
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: Chiefs games mixed up. It was not twenty twenty three

957
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: when tarn made the interception at the end. That was

958
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, which was also a close victory. The

959
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three game was the Travis Kelcey to Cadarius

960
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: Tony lateral that got nullified because Tony lined up off sides.

961
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: Bass kicked the go ahead field goal with one fifty

962
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: four left. Chiefs come down, looks like they score, but

963
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 1: it's nullified on the off sides penalty as he lined

964
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: up off sides before the snap. So that was that

965
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: game twenty twenty three, right. I think coach McDermott was

966
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: still breathing a sigh of relief. Though. There've been some

967
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: tight ones down there in the regular season. So that

968
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: was a post by victory and the only one on

969
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: the road under Sean McDermott post by eight. No, that

970
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: was the only road win post by. Yeah, they'll have

971
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: a road game this Sunday.

972
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: This is uh, this is the one where pat and

973
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: was so mad at the game.

974
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she was living one of the few

975
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: calls the Chiefs did not get in their favor And

976
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: why wouldn't that make you angry?

977
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: Right?

978
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: Well, there you go. Did you see the UTEP study

979
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: the University of Texas passes. I saw it seemed a

980
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: little flimsy. Yes, they were arguing, you know, beneficial for

981
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: money and everything else, ratings and whatnot.

982
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: But nah, I've seen too much to think they're going to.

983
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well you know he was, Wow, he was.

984
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 2: We're quiet because you know, we're watching the highlight of

985
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes just ripping in a fish and he is,

986
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: he is.

987
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: I've been there, man, I have been there.

988
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Hey you're offside here, you're not? Yeah,

989
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: I have been there. You're just absolutely positive that they

990
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: that they, you know, is an injustice and you just

991
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: can't let it go. You can't let it go.

992
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all there is to it. Yeah, something else.

993
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a topic of discussion for you today.

994
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: What do you expect from the Bills Sunday against the

995
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: Panthers post By? You think they're going to come out

996
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: like a house on fire? Are you going to go

997
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: in cautiously optimistic? What are you expecting off the buy?

998
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: And does the eight no record under coach McDermott post

999
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: By give you any greater confidence about how they will

1000
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: perform on Sunday? Open lines for you at eight oh

1001
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: three oh five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

1002
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: five fifty the number to get on board. We go

1003
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: to Ron in Buffalo. What's up? Ron?

1004
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1005
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 6: You don't, uh, I think we're gonna come out Yeah.

1006
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 6: I think we'll come out pretty good. Yeah. We've got

1007
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 6: a pretty good record under McDermott coming out of a bias,

1008
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 6: So I think we're gonna come out smoking. So I

1009
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 6: got a comment on that push, Yeah, go ahead.

1010
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, why don't they say you can only use it

1011
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 7: once a game, but you're not allowed to use it

1012
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 7: at the goal line.

1013
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an option they may. They probably talked about

1014
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: it ron and it'll continue to get.

1015
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 8: More and more.

1016
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: Attention.

1017
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: I think I think they're going to be really hesitant

1018
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: to change it. I think they're going to ask their

1019
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: officials to call it closer and it'll make it more

1020
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 2: and more difficult to execute. And once that happens, it'll

1021
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: go away. And not everybody and certainly the Eagles have

1022
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: had a lot of success with it, no question about it.

1023
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: But if it starts to not work and teams will

1024
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: figure out some way not to let it work, then

1025
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: it'll go away on its own. I kind of I

1026
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: kind of feel like they're very hesitant to do away

1027
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: with it, but they might, and they'll.

1028
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: Have pretty close to getting voted out. I mean it

1029
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: was only a few vote shy of a three quarters

1030
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: majority when the owners voted back in the spring. Yeah,

1031
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: So will it get enough momentum to oust it from

1032
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: the league. I don't know. I think the trickle down

1033
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: effect is the problem here because you can't get you

1034
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: can't just get rid of the tush push for assisting

1035
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: the ball carrier, because if you do that, then you

1036
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: have to look at all plays in which a player

1037
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: is assisted and you have to outlaw that as well.

1038
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: You know, there are sometimes you've got a receiver on

1039
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: a tunnel screen and his forward momentum is initially stopped,

1040
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: and then three linemen show up and start shoving him

1041
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: down the field another three or four yards. Well, those

1042
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: are going to be gone too, because right, you can't

1043
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: just take the tush push out for a ball carrier assistance.

1044
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: You got to take all the other plays out too,

1045
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 1: or just ban assisting and pushing a player so that's

1046
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: carrying the.

1047
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: Ball now they could. They'll have verbiage that describes what

1048
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: is exactly being outlawed, and it will it'll leave holes

1049
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: in it, you know. I mean, you're gonna be able

1050
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: to like offensive linemen like outside the tackle box, you

1051
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: can do that, or or a yard down the line,

1052
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: a scrimmage or whatever whatever, whatever, they'll allow these guys

1053
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: to you know, you know, push the runner. Now it's

1054
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: still illegal to pull him, yes, And we saw I

1055
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: saw a borderline hall where they didn't call a guy

1056
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: pulling the running back or the guy with the ball.

1057
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: That's illegal. You can push, but you can't pull. So

1058
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 2: they have verbiage like that already in the rule book,

1059
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: and they will further specify what it's going to look like.

1060
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be the most if it

1061
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: does get banned, The language surrounding that will be the

1062
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: most interesting part about it of what is exactly what

1063
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: are they telling you can't do, because they can't they

1064
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 2: can't outlaw the quarterback sneak.

1065
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: No, but they can outlaw assisting him, assisting any ballcarrier

1066
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: for that matter. So I think it would be more

1067
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: wide ranging if they decide to bounce that they're going

1068
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: to just eliminate all ball carrier assistance via a push.

1069
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: Let's check out the tweetsheet, which is brought to you

1070
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Speaker 1: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

1071
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. What do you expect from the bill

1072
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Panthers. Bill says, I expect their best

1073
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: all around game offense, on fire and d making stops.

1074
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: I expect everyone saying Carolina is tough and Buffalo will lose.

1075
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: We'll all say that the Bill's won because Carolina stinks

1076
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: after the game. So he already has his postgame commentary

1077
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: ready to go here as far as how it's gonna

1078
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: play out, he's already talking about what our Monday show

1079
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: is gonna sound like.

1080
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: We're at a point in history where even the casual

1081
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: like I'm not saying Bills is a casual fan, but

1082
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: we know what the narrative means. Right, there's gonna be

1083
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: a story that follows the game, Right, Carolina stinks they

1084
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Speaker 2: should have lost to Buffalo. Buffalo's obviously obviously the superior

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00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 2: team they were favored to win. They should have won

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00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 2: all of that stuff, and that it's funny how we

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00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: look for that and try and anticipate what people will

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00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 2: say when the game goes the way we think it's

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00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 2: gonna go. Bill died that just there. And I don't

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00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: know if they're gonna get their best all round on

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00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: game offense, on fire, defense and making stops, but yeah,

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00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: Buffalo is favored or has been favored during this week

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: by more than a touchdown and an extra point, and

1094
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: if they win by that or thereabouts or a little more,

1095
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 2: depending on what the game looks like, that's going to

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Speaker 2: be the narrative. That's the way it should have been.

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00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: Buffalo seems to be back on track, depending on how

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00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: it looks, and I think they will. Probably the narrative

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00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: that's going to follow Buffalo is going to be.

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Speaker 6: A.

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Speaker 2: Is their offense back on schedule scoring thirty points a

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00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: game and all of that?

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Speaker 1: And B.

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Speaker 2: Is their defense any better with the additions?

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Speaker 1: Frank on the sweetsheet says the offensive line has to

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Speaker 1: come out swinging. They're playing with fire. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: we are expecting the protections to be more short up

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: than we saw last game in Week six at Atlanta,

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00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: And this is another road environment, although based on the

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00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: amount of Bills fans that are supposed to be showing up,

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00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: it may not be a tremendous road environment, but we'll

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Speaker 1: see when we get down there. But yeah, they've got

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00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: some corrections to make, and it's a bye week. I

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: think they will make a majority of those. Let's jump

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Speaker 1: back on the phone lines, go to Dave and Orchard Park.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Dave?

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Speaker 9: Oh, good ahead for you and gentlemen. As far as

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00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 9: takeaways for this game, I could care less about mcdermot's

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00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 9: record coming off the by I mean, let's face it,

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Speaker 9: he's got the best quarterback in the AFC. We're in

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Speaker 9: the weakest division in the AFC, and look where we've

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Speaker 9: gotten so far. It's the same old, same old every year.

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Speaker 9: As far as takeaways, if we can't get to Andy

1124
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Speaker 9: Dalton the statue with at least three or four sacks,

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Speaker 9: we got a major problem with that defensive line. And

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Speaker 9: if we keep on making the same penalties thirty before

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Speaker 9: the bye week. If I'm not mistaken in three games,

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Speaker 9: if we can't cut down in mistakes and penalties in

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Speaker 9: this game, you know, take it for what it's worth.

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Speaker 9: I don't see us coming out smoking. I don't see

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00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 9: us bombing this team, but we should be able to

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Speaker 9: at least eke out a victory, you would think against Carolina?

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Speaker 1: All right? Fair enough, Dave, I mean, I will say

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01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: Steve isn't of the opinion that Dalton playing is an

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Speaker 1: advantage for Buffalo. I think it is for Buffalo's pass rush,

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Speaker 1: provided the Bills can get them in long down and

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01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: distant situations, which is a big if because they're playing

1138
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Speaker 1: against the third best rushing attack in football. I think

1139
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: the advantage of having Dalton in the game is you

1140
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: know where he's going to be when he drops back

1141
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Speaker 1: to pass. He's not the kind of player that's going

1142
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,479
Speaker 1: to be making off script plays like Bryce Young has

1143
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: so far this season, and because of that, I think

1144
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: there will be more opportunities to get the quarterback on

1145
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: the ground this week with Dalton starting. That's just my thought.

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Speaker 2: Dave obviously doesn't think the Bills are going to play well.

1147
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: Obviously the eight to noe record in years past does

1148
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: not have an effect on this one. It's an indicator

1149
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: of how prepared that you should expect them to be, though,

1150
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: and he Yeah, the penalties and turnovers are absolutely what

1151
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: you got to clean up. If the Bills clean those up,

1152
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: that's what you got to think about. What it's going

1153
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: to look like if they do. If they don't, it's

1154
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: going to look a lot like the same. It's going

1155
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: to look the same, Yeah, And it'll depend on what

1156
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: Carolina does to take advantage of the mistakes and penalties.

1157
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: We don't know that, so, yeah, obviously there's some pessimism

1158
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: in some court from daven Orchard Park. There's some pessimism

1159
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: around Bill's mafia that you know, they just don't know

1160
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: if this team is going to bounce back like it

1161
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: should or like they've seen him.

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Speaker 1: I looked up some stats on Buffalo's big pass plays

1163
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: because this has been a point of consternation for fans,

1164
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: saying we're not airing it out down the field anymore,

1165
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: We're not getting any big pass plays, and I realize

1166
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: via air yards that's probably true, although oh Josh Palmer

1167
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: had a forty yard catch in the game against Atlanta

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01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: and Dawson Knox had a touchdown for over twenty yards

1169
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Speaker 1: on the first scoring drive of the game. That aside,

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Speaker 1: I will say that I looked all the way back

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty for pass plays of twenty yards or more,

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Speaker 1: and this does not mean air yards. This is yards gained,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a short catch and an eighteen yard run

1174
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: or a twenty pass play through the air. So here

1175
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Speaker 1: are the numbers. Twenty twenty, when their offense took off

1176
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Speaker 1: like a rocket, Bills were fourth in the league in

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01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: twenty yard pass plays with sixty six. The next year

1178
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, sixteenth in the league with fifty one.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two, same number, fifty one, thirteenth in the league.

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Speaker 1: I mean this is when they were airing it out. Okay,

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01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three only forty nine, and they were nineteenth

1182
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: in the league with twenty plus yard pass plays. Last season,

1183
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: when throwing down the field was absent from Buffalo's passing

1184
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: game to a large degree, they had fifty six, the

1185
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: second highest total in the last five seasons, and finished

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01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: sixth in the league in pass plays of twenty yards

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01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: or more. Now, there may have been a healthy number

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01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: of those that were five yard passes and yards after

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Speaker 1: catch happened because the Bills did rank high in yards

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Speaker 1: after catch last year. So far this season, after six

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: games played, the Bills have twenty pass plays of twenty

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01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: yards or more. They are on pace for fifty six,

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01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: the exact same number they had last year when they

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Speaker 1: were sixth in the league. Who the hell cares how

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Speaker 1: you get the yards as long as you're getting the yards. Yeah,

1196
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: what is the obsession with air yards?

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Speaker 2: Well, because it's the one thing that is not at

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Speaker 2: that when this offense is clicking like it was. First

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Speaker 2: four weeks of the season, they're scoring thirty points. Of

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Speaker 2: week one, they score forty two and nobody cares, uh

1201
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: and every and all the people talk about was, well,

1202
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: we're not throwing it down the field, we're dinking and

1203
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: dunking it, and well, yeah, that's where they're at, and

1204
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: they're they had one they did. They hit the long

1205
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: ball to Palmer last week out of the gate. Then

1206
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: Palmer goes down with an injury, and then they struggle

1207
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: the rest of the way for whatever reason. But this

1208
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: is you know, this is a club where that the

1209
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: offense operates its best when the ball's out of Josh's hands,

1210
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 2: getting to somebody who can catch it and run with it.

1211
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: That's Joe Brady's I think that's what Joe Brady has

1212
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 2: envision for this. Everybody eats because at least everybody gets

1213
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: targeted and everybody can. You know, you can pick the

1214
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: matchup you want. I've I have up until the last

1215
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. And granted these last couple of weeks

1216
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: have been sloppy, at least you call it what you want.

1217
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Speaker 2: Last two weeks they've lost both games. It has not

1218
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 2: been the same offense that we saw early on, but

1219
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: early on, when they're in the first month of the

1220
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: season and all of last season, there's nothing to fix,

1221
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: nothing to fix, and even this year, in these last

1222
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: two games, if you fix the penalties and the turnovers,

1223
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 2: there's still nothing to fix. So I'm not getting caught

1224
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: up and not throwing the ball down the field or whatever.

1225
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: Just do what you're doing and do it better and

1226
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 2: don't make mistakes, don't drop the ball, and don't you know,

1227
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: get a penalty, don't line up off sides. That would

1228
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: be awesome. So, yeah, I'm this offense. If it continues

1229
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: to struggle, yeah we got we got issues because this

1230
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: team needs this offense and Josh Allen to be at

1231
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 2: its best all the time because their defense is still

1232
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: trying to find itself and if they're not churning out turnovers,

1233
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: you're going to be in a shootout every week. So

1234
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: you need this offense to show up and show up

1235
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 2: big every week. And I know that seems like a

1236
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: lot of pressure and all that, but they're up to it.

1237
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 2: Their offensive line is talented enough, they got James Cook

1238
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: in the backfield, the running game is good enough, and

1239
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: Josh makes the passing game good enough under any circumstances.

1240
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 2: So this offense is really if they can play mistake free,

1241
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 2: they're good enough to beat anybody. And when their defense

1242
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 2: gives them anything, they're too tough. Usually for any team

1243
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: to beat, only an elite team is gonna get it done.

1244
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: So that's where they're at right now in my mind.

1245
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people were making a

1246
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: big deal on social media because ESPN put the stat

1247
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Speaker 1: up on NFL Live on how. From twenty twenty to

1248
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, the Bills had like fifteen touchdowns of

1249
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: twenty yards or more. Last year they only had one.

1250
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like, who the hell cares? They were the

1251
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: highest scoring team in football, And if it matters to

1252
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: you that much, I'll tell you they already have two

1253
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: this year. Twenty eight yard of Kincaid and the forty

1254
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: three yard is Shakir and those were mostly run after catch.

1255
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Speaker 2: Also, yeah, that shakierz was the one against Uh who

1256
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: was it a week two? Week one? No, it was

1257
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: Dolphins game. It was a Dolphins game when he broke

1258
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: down the near sideline. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, brownie.

1259
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Speaker 2: They scored, and when it's all said and done, and

1260
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Speaker 2: Josh is sixty years old. You're gonna look back on

1261
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: his career and say, the one thing that he did

1262
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 2: and this whole team did while he was quarterback, they

1263
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Speaker 2: scored a ton, no matter what it looked like, whether

1264
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 2: he was jumping over running, you know, in a fourth

1265
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Speaker 2: and two against Kansas City, whether he was thrown at

1266
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: the Dalton Kincaid in the end zone or Gabe Davis

1267
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: or the four touchdowns in Kansas that this offense when

1268
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is pulling the trigger, matter what it looks like, I.

1269
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Speaker 1: Say it all the time on the broadcast, He's a

1270
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: scoring machine. No one scores Josh Allen.

1271
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Speaker 2: That's right, he is gifted.

1272
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Speaker 1: We do have to pause this discussion because it's time

1273
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: now for Saints game. Saints time now for excuse me,

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Speaker 1: get yours. Question this week comes from Rick, who says, hey, Steve,

1284
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Speaker 1: considering you're from Kansas, have you ever seen or maybe

1285
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,520
Speaker 1: even encountered a tornado?

1286
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Speaker 9: Yes?

1287
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: I have. I would have guessed you're in tornado Alley

1288
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: right multiple times.

1289
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: Now here's what you gotta know. If you take a

1290
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 2: big blank wall and you take a dart and you

1291
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Speaker 2: throw it, that's that's how much is affected by a tornado,

1292
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: that little point pinpoint it. Tornators are very localized. And

1293
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Speaker 2: the state that I came from, in Kansas is very

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Speaker 2: rural and very wide open. It's like think think Fargo,

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01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: the movie park. That's kind of where the wide open

1296
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: space exactly. I was. However, when I was a kid,

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Speaker 2: I was outside playing in the rain with one of

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01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: those bubble those umbrellas that come way fat. Yeah, yeah,

1299
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 2: you've seen. Everybody has them, just an umbrella. I was

1300
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 2: out there playing around with it. It was raining a

1301
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 2: little bit, and I got hit with what I can

1302
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: only describe as a wall of wind.

1303
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean all of it.

1304
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 2: It went from zero wind to an absolute ninety mile

1305
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,799
Speaker 2: an hour wind before you could even take a breath.

1306
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: And that umbrella. I was out in my backyard. The umbrella.

1307
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: Everything was like. I had it around my wrisk like

1308
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 2: a kid, because you know, you have your the thing's there,

1309
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 2: so you put your hand through the loop and the

1310
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: and that thing snapped my arm out straight and pushed

1311
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 2: and dragged me. It didn't drag me. I kept my

1312
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: feet because I'm an athlete, so it.

1313
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: Kept my feet.

1314
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: And it got me across the across the across the road,

1315
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: and you know that. Finally I shook the umbrella. By

1316
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: that time, I can't stop. And across the street was

1317
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 2: a vacant lot.

1318
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: So the wind's still blowing you even without the umbrella.

1319
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and it's it's a tornado. And

1320
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: across the street there was a station wagon sitting in

1321
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 2: this lot and it had been they'd loaded the back

1322
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:49,480
Speaker 2: end with bricks. I get under the front, under the engine,

1323
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 2: between the two front wheels, right in front.

1324
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: Under the engine block.

1325
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: Well not not way under. I'm under the front bumper,

1326
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 2: right as far back as I can tuck before the

1327
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 2: front wheels are so I'm tuck there, laying across.

1328
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: And how old are we here?

1329
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: I am nine, okay, And I look across kid the

1330
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 2: street and I see my dad who had come out

1331
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: of the back of the other side of the house

1332
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 2: because he and my mom, I find out we're in there,

1333
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 2: and they were they saw they saw it.

1334
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 1: Oh, they saw you blow across My mom like a twig,

1335
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: like a mom does.

1336
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 2: She pushes her husband out and said, go get it,

1337
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: because he's you know, they see me.

1338
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: You know, I weighed like sixty.

1339
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 2: I was a kid. I was a skinny, little wiry kid.

1340
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, go get him.

1341
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: So I look out and hear some of My dad

1342
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 2: comes around the back and I by this time, I

1343
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: guy them myself and I could run. I kind of

1344
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: ran at like a forty five degree angle at the wind,

1345
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 2: you know, and I reach it. My dad grabbed me

1346
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 2: by the arm. We went inside. And this is the

1347
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 2: way it happens in tornadoes. So I go inside. When

1348
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: I go, we go to the basement. Five minutes passed,

1349
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: literally five minutes pass. You come out of the basement

1350
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: sunshine and calm as a church. Yeah, And but the

1351
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: devastations everywhere. I mean, I remember I was what In

1352
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 2: the moment that I was underneath the front of that car,

1353
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: there was a guy building a building, you know, like

1354
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 2: a little outhouse, like a little hut, like a garden hut.

1355
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: But he's using that corrugated tin, like two and a

1356
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: half yep by six foot sections of corgate that.

1357
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: It's not good in a tornado.

1358
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: He had it stacked and it looked like a copy

1359
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: machine going.

1360
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: It was like.

1361
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: Every sheet of that tin wasp off, flipped the top,

1362
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 2: one was just gone, the next one gone, next one gone.

1363
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: It was like a copy machine just.

1364
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: And they were you know, dangerous, is all.

1365
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: Couldn't sever your head right off your shoulders.

1366
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it couldn't have been more dangerous. And it

1367
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 2: was like off. It was downwind to me, so I

1368
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: was safe. Stuff like that was happening. There was building

1369
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: downtown lost, a big pieces of brick were coming out,

1370
01:12:55,640 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: and uh, five minutes later people emerged from their homes.

1371
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: We're like, wow, that was a bad one.

1372
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 1: Did you have like one of those shelters underground or

1373
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 1: just you did house.

1374
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 2: My house was a little more modern house. We lived

1375
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: in a parsonage next to the and when they built it,

1376
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 2: they put a fallout shelter in it. Yeah, they fallout shelter.

1377
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 2: It's a tornado thing.

1378
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh.

1379
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we had one of those. And I remember

1380
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 2: another time we were coming out of the back of

1381
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 2: my high school going to I was a freshman in

1382
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 2: high school and we're walking just you know, you know,

1383
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: high school kids, you know, freshmen. We're like nang nack,

1384
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 2: nang nag, you know. And our coach was with us,

1385
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: and he was a young coach and he goes, hey, hey,

1386
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 2: what he goes is that is that a tornado? And

1387
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: all of you know, our heads are all on the string.

1388
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: We swing up and sure enough there was a funnel.

1389
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: Cloud touching down.

1390
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could see, I mean it was like

1391
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: a picture. And we were like, oh and you kind

1392
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 2: of just have that moment like are we what are

1393
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: we doing?

1394
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 1: Are we in the path? Which way is it going?

1395
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 2: And come to find out, and this is the country

1396
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: we lived in. It was twelve miles north, twelve miles

1397
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 2: So we sat there and stood there and watched it

1398
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 2: for you know, three minutes, and before it dissipated, was gone.

1399
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: And that's so yeah, it's it is a real thing

1400
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: out there.

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01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,839
Speaker 1: I've last thing is we got to go to break.

1402
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: I've heard that the roar of these things is unmistakable, like, oh, it's.

1403
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: A freight train in your head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

1404
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 2: a freight train in your head. It's yeah. When you're

1405
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 2: in it, yeah, it's it's bad. It's loud. And plus

1406
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 2: there's the intensity of it. So the velocity of all

1407
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 2: the stuff flying around, banging into each other, bending, breaking,

1408
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 2: coming apart, trees coming down, yeah, roofs are getting ripped off,

1409
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: is deafening, deafening. Yeah, it's it's really scary.

1410
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: Did the brick station wagons stay in place? Yeah? Never moved,

1411
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: all right, that would have been a good choice. Got

1412
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: stuck there?

1413
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Hay, it was pointing the right way,

1414
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: so it was aerodynamic, right. I'll tell you this too.

1415
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 2: It was all I could do is to change my

1416
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: course because I had to go like a sideways to

1417
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 2: the wind to get to it.

1418
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how little I weighed back then.

1419
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 6: I was.

1420
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: I was like a dixie cup. All right. That was

1421
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: a good. Excuse me, mister tasker. I liked that one.

1422
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: We got to take a break, but we are taking

1423
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: your phone calls when we come back. Debbie in Lockport,

1424
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Miami. We'll get to you when we return

1425
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Can Out of Health,

1426
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1427
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: This week's game at the Panthers is presented by the

1428
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: Bflo Store, official retailer of the Buffalo Bills. Got to

1429
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: get back to the phones where we've been asking you today.

1430
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: What do you expect from the Bill Sunday against the Panthers.

1431
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: What kind of post buy performance are you anticipating To

1432
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 1: Debbie and Lockport, we go, what's up, Debbie, Hi Christy.

1433
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 10: I'm expecting a big win Sunday. I've been looking forward

1434
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 10: to this game. It's also my birthday, so I'm hoping

1435
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 10: for a nice presence. I'm also hoping for a big

1436
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 10: game from Kean. I really really like Kean. Jim Kelly

1437
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 10: is my number one favorite, but I'd like to see

1438
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 10: a standout performance from Kean. Also, just a little message

1439
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 10: to mister Tasker. You've got big fans here Lockport, Western

1440
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 10: New York, and everybody is hoping that this time you

1441
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 10: get into the Hall of Fame. You are more than deserving.

1442
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 10: You belong there with Jim Andre Thurman, Bruce. So we're

1443
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 10: just praying you get in there this time. That's all.

1444
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mavy.

1445
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: That's very nice of you to say. I'm telling I

1446
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,560
Speaker 2: was telling Jay Harris, our producer in Brownie today in

1447
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: the office. I was like, listen, if I get in,

1448
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 2: we have to invite everybody, every Bills fans from all

1449
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: over the world. Has I can't help you with tickets.

1450
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: Now you're on your own, but you're all invited, right, Yeah.

1451
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll even get those uh those Milan Bills fans

1452
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: that helped you out there, you go and put you

1453
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: up for a few days over there, get them to yeah. Yeah,

1454
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: and then the gang.

1455
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely the Milan Rhinos can come.

1456
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: That's right.

1457
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

1458
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: They can play in the Hall of Fame game. You

1459
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: never know. Let's go to Jimmy in Miami.

1460
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 8: What's up, Jimmy, Hey, guys, Hey, I'm okay looking for

1461
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 8: this uh coming game. I'm hoping that Coleman comes up big,

1462
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 8: and he's really got to start coming up big the

1463
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 8: rest of the year. But you know, when we drafted Coleman,

1464
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 8: we knew he didn't have that breakaway speed. Uh, but

1465
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 8: you know, uh, Mike Evans never had breakaway speed. He's

1466
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 8: in the four fives when he ran a forty, and

1467
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 8: Poka Naku is in the four fives. Uh Cooper Cup

1468
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 8: when he went to the combine, I think at forty

1469
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 8: times was four point six two. But the thing is,

1470
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 8: these guys knew how to run routes. They knew how

1471
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 8: to create leverage against the defensive back. There's got to

1472
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 8: be and I'm sure Steve knows, and you know, Chris,

1473
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 8: there's got to be an offensive receiver coach that can

1474
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 8: coach Coleman how to get leverage, how to break off

1475
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 8: these routes. He's very athletic, we know that, and he

1476
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 8: can jump. I think there's a really great receiver inside

1477
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 8: of him. But the way it's going now, defensive backs

1478
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 8: are just draped all over him. And I'm just hoping

1479
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 8: that the rest of the year something happens and he

1480
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 8: there's a switch that turns and he can really turn

1481
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 8: into that receiver that they thought he was going to be.

1482
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 8: And also Kincaid. I'm hoping Kinkaid plays. But that's pretty

1483
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 8: much all I had. I got one little rumor, well

1484
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 8: kind of not rumor, but prediction. I think the Dolphins,

1485
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 8: the owner Steve Ross. Of course, I don't have any

1486
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 8: inside information on this, just what I hear in Miami,

1487
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:11,799
Speaker 8: but I think he's doing the self inflicted tank where

1488
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 8: he's not going to fire McDaniel. He knows the team

1489
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 8: is not going to make the playoffs, and I think

1490
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 8: he's just figures will let him lose as many games

1491
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 8: as they as they're going to. They lost the team,

1492
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 8: McDaniels lost the team pretty much in the second half

1493
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 8: of the game against Cleveland. They got totally embarrassed, and

1494
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 8: the team, he's pretty much lost them. And I think

1495
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 8: they're shopping Wattle. They're going to start having a fire

1496
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 8: sale and they're going to probably strip it right down

1497
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 8: to the studs, and they might keep Tua and you know,

1498
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 8: because they're stuck with him. But that that was about it.

1499
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 8: That's my rumor for the day.

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01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: A guys, thanks Jammy, appreciate the call. As I mentioned

1501
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 1: in around the NFL, some NFL insiders maintained that Waddle

1502
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: is not going to be moved. They see him as

1503
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: part of the solution in the future. I think of

1504
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: anything they move on from Tyreek, who's on ir right now,

1505
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: and probably Bradley Chubb, who's a high priced, expensive veteran player.

1506
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: They have Chob Robinson, he's the young pass rusher. They

1507
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: hold on to the former first round pick and Jalen Philip. Yeah,

1508
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: but he's had a couple of major injuries. He's had

1509
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: an acl and an achilles. It's kind of the back

1510
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: to back injuries we saw Trey suffer. And he's a

1511
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: younger player, but he does not look the same at

1512
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: least this year. So they may toss him overboard too

1513
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: because he just signed an extension. So we'll see where

1514
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: it goes. But I don't think Waddle's a player that's

1515
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: going to get moved, even by a team as inept

1516
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: personnel wise as the Dolphins. I think they're smart enough

1517
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: to know he's a solution to their future. Whether it's

1518
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 1: two at quarterback ers. Well, they're kind of tied to

1519
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: two fifty three million dollars a year, so make of

1520
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: it what you will.

1521
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1522
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: Well, if you go back in history and remember the

1523
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 2: Brian Flores saga, that was when he was the head coach,

1524
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: he alleged that that's what Stephen Ross was was going

1525
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: to try and do with him make him lose, so

1526
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: they him to pay him to lose. So it is

1527
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 2: not out of the realm of if if you accept

1528
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 2: that at face values, not out of the realm of

1529
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 2: possibility to have him do it legitimately and just keep

1530
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 2: guys who can't get it done in order to position

1531
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: themselves in the draft to get some guys who can

1532
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 2: get it done and then make major changes after that.

1533
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: Do you So, here's the question. Right now, the Jets

1534
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: have the number one pick in the draft, their own

1535
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: division opponent would be picking ahead of them. They do

1536
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: face each other one more time. Who won that game

1537
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: the first time?

1538
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 6: Oh?

1539
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Dolphins beat him. Yeah, it's their only victory.

1540
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: So might want to pay attention to that game a

1541
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: little closer to just see how it unfolds. Wow, that's

1542
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: just saying nefarious. It is nefarious. But we've been all

1543
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: about the nefarious today right from the start of the show.

1544
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 2: Yes we have the Feds, don't bust in our doors.

1545
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: We're fine. Yeah, the it.

1546
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 2: It's an interesting call from Jimmy from Miami what the

1547
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: Dolphins are doing down there. There hasn't been a move made. No,

1548
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 2: and when you don't make a move, that everybody seems

1549
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 2: that seems inevitable to everybody, meaning in this case, Mike

1550
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: McDaniel being fired as head coach of the Dolphins mid

1551
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 2: season after a one in seven, one and sixth start,

1552
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 2: because in the Jets are ozero and seven, but they

1553
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 2: got a brand new head coach already he's still trying

1554
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 2: to build something, and their owner has come out and said, hey,

1555
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: you got to give it a give it a minute,

1556
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: you know, which is prudent and correct. Miami, it's circling

1557
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 2: the drain after being there for was this fourth year,

1558
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: fifth year, fourth from Mike McDaniel. So it's not working

1559
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 2: and you gave him plenty of rope to make it work.

1560
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 2: So not making the move in Miami's case kind of

1561
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: points to what Jimmy is alleging, and maybe that's what's

1562
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: spurring the conversation down in South Florida. Said, well, if

1563
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 2: they're not making a move, here's what their plans got

1564
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 2: to be, and it's get the first pick of the draft.

1565
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: And as for Coleman, yeah, I think everybody wants to

1566
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 1: see that production from him. Not for nothing. Last year,

1567
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: right around this time, Coleman had a breakout game at

1568
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 1: Seattle on the road one hundred and twenty five yards

1569
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. Maybe that's in there somewhere and they

1570
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 1: can unlock him. We talked with dean Orlobski earlier in

1571
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: the week about putting him in the slot where he

1572
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 1: had a lot of success in college at Florida State.

1573
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: If you don't have Kincaid, all the more reason to

1574
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: move him inside, put a big target in there.

1575
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: I'll say this too, it's frustrating not only for the

1576
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 2: players and the coaches, but obviously, as we've heard from

1577
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 2: our callers, it's really frustrating for the fans to see

1578
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: Keon the bulk of Keon's attention beat those back shoulder,

1579
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 2: low percentage jump balls. It's hard. It's hard to complete

1580
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 2: those passes under the best of circumstances, let alone when

1581
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 2: that's kind of the only thing you're getting thrown at you.

1582
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 2: That's frustrating for everybody. And you'd like to see Keon

1583
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: widen his spectrum of possible targets from six inches left

1584
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 2: on the sideline with a high ball coming over the top, yep.

1585
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: I think people like to see some more from him,

1586
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 2: and some more variety from him, and opportunities more variety

1587
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 2: of opportunities for him and maybe we'll see that.

1588
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: Let's go to Chris on a sale here before the break.

1589
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 11: What's up, Chris, Hey Brownie, Hi Casker, how you doing good.

1590
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 11: We've been Bills fans, my husband and I for almost

1591
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 11: forty years, and I used to have season tickets. And

1592
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 11: what I'm hoping for on Sunday is Josh to be Josh.

1593
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 11: He hasn't been Josh lately. I don't know why they

1594
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 11: don't let the offense coordinator and Sean McDermott let him

1595
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 11: be Josh, let him, let him loose, let him go

1596
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 11: like he used to be. He's just not playing like

1597
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 11: hes like he's been playing the past couple of games.

1598
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 11: And he doesn't belong under center.

1599
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: Well doesn't belong under center. I understand that, But I

1600
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: would say one of the things that has worked uncommonly well,

1601
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: and thanks for the call, Chris, is play action, because

1602
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 1: the run game has to be respected under center. Play

1603
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: action has worked very well, and Josh even mentioned it

1604
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 1: in his press conference this week, getting back to the

1605
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 1: success they've had with play action with him under center.

1606
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: And if you look around the league, a lot more

1607
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: teams that have reincorporated the run game, are using more

1608
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: under center play action. So just something to keep in mind. Yes,

1609
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: Josh works right out of the shotgun and I think

1610
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: you'll see him in that shotgun mode a fair amount

1611
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: of the time in games. But a lot of their

1612
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: biggest plays have come off of play afts.

1613
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 2: There's a lot in this because here's the thing. Their offense,

1614
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 2: when it's working, the run game is a big part

1615
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 2: of it. They hand the ball off almost fifty percent

1616
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 2: of the time, and that means the defense has to

1617
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 2: respect that and they have to get on they have

1618
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 2: to bear up and stop it. And then if the

1619
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 2: ball is out of Josh's hands, on those little underneath

1620
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 2: routes and Khalil Shakers catching it and running and Coleman

1621
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 2: catches a target, and Palmer and of course King Kaid

1622
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 2: and Knocks and all these guys and they all catch.

1623
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: They're all catching balls and the and the offense is

1624
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 2: clicking and clicking then when you need it, and the

1625
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 2: defense is trying to stop all these guys. All this

1626
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 2: everybody eats all these targets that you've got coming at you.

1627
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 2: This offensive line in the run game, you got all

1628
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 2: in all of a sudden, Josh does something there that

1629
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 2: you can't expect. That's when Josh is at his best.

1630
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 2: I think the Atlanta Falcons stop Josh from doing what

1631
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: he wanted to do first, and then nobody stepped up

1632
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 2: to help him. Josh's back there. He's got no answer

1633
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: for the blitz because they either he didn't see it

1634
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: coming they were prepared for it, or they didn't call

1635
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 2: the right play and he thought his answer was someplace

1636
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 2: where it wasn't, or they snapped his answer off for

1637
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: whatever reason. The rest of the whole offense was second

1638
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: and ten and then third and twelve. You can't win

1639
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 2: like that, and Josh is never gonna be himself when

1640
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 2: you're not functioning properly every place else. And some of

1641
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: that has to do with Josh as well, no question.

1642
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 2: But the run game's gotta work, and you've got to

1643
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 2: have targets on the field that are getting open. And

1644
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 2: I can missing Kincaid hurt, Khalil Shakir was non existent

1645
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 2: to me in that last game against the Falcons, and

1646
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: you've got to have all that functioning for Josh to

1647
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 2: really show up. Shakir had five targets, three receptions. That's

1648
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 2: not enough to me so, and when you're missing Kinkaid

1649
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 2: and you know you got to kind of try and

1650
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: beat him left with left handed, without older guys on

1651
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 2: the field, that changes the where they're the way they

1652
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 2: are allowed to defend Josh, because when everything else is working,

1653
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 2: then Josh puts on the cape and the defense has

1654
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 2: got oh my gosh, now we got the atomic bomb

1655
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 2: we got to defend. So that's that's what you're looking at.

1656
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: Break time for us here one final segment to go,

1657
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet. Next here on

1658
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live. Stay with us, Some final thoughts on

1659
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: the tweets sheet here on One Bill's Live, where we've

1660
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: been asking you today, what do you expect from the

1661
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: bill Sunday post by against the Panthers. Herb says, I

1662
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: honestly expect the Bills to play their most complete game

1663
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 1: of the season. Chris says, a victory to get them

1664
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: back on track. Tired of hearing about how great the

1665
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,919
Speaker 1: Chiefs are, I don't get used to that, Joseph says, honestly,

1666
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: no idea. What I'm hoping for is a refreshed group

1667
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 1: looking to write the ship, nailing down schematic details, fixing

1668
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,919
Speaker 1: issues with penalties and just doing well with basics like tackling.

1669
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 1: Higgins says, expect to see better fundamental football, some joy,

1670
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,839
Speaker 1: and to win Go Bills. Josh talked about that yesterday

1671
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: in his press conference about getting back to smiling again.

1672
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I mean, how much I love the joy.

1673
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 2: We all love joy, but do you like, don't you

1674
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 2: need angst before you appreciate it?

1675
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I have some time. People just want to

1676
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: see juice from this team, like a team that's charged

1677
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: up and ready to roll. All right, that's it for

1678
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: us today, as we're ready to roll out of here,

1679
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 1: but we'll be on here tomorrow. OBL Friday fan Mail band,

1680
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: get your questions in and Greg Cosel