1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Joe Grande, and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: world's number one source for everything cannabis. My name is Blue. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Alongside me is Joe Brande. Thank you Blue, and thank 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: you guys for listening to our podcast, Cannabis Talk one 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: oh one. We're still hanging out at cam Med and 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: beautiful Pasadena, California. 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I feel 32 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: like we're hanging out. I feel like there are friends 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: at this point in the game. It's just that they 34 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: are Joe, right. I mean, I feel like we've known 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: him for years and we just met him here. I 36 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: I just met him. Herror in Passing a Boo, got 37 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Cody Peterson, who's the chief science officer, and Lauren Rebel Rebel, 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: Yes Rabel, Lauren Rabel the scientific Advisor and pharmaceuticals from 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: the Enigma and Enigma exactly. And you guys, what that 40 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: is just to give you guys a real good insight. 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: It's it's a website, right and this website blue is 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: just to give it your quick High Times whatever. It's 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: cannabis talk one on one. It's like whatever, it's the 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: connigmas c A n n I g m A c 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: A n n I g M A the Yeah, I'd 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: like to chime in and say that I think that 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: we're a little bit more than High Times now we 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: we we problase. I just want to explain to him. 49 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, right now, I got come on, we're talking 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: to the same people. These are cannabis, interested in cannabis, 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: curious folks, right. But but High Times has been focused 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: a lot more on culture, and what we're really focused 53 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: on is how we can use cannabis as medicine and 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: how we can leverage the existing science and translate it 55 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: into a digestible way for the average reader. Well, said Cody, 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: because you're right, a lot of that is culture. And 57 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: you know what, everything that you that's been going on 58 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: here is that and we and not a factory for 59 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: this I want to do more of our page, more 60 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: science too, because our page culture. We need. We need 61 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: to colla you guys on our website seriously, like maybe 62 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: we do like half articles that come from you pay 63 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: them back. I don't even lived to her like all 64 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: bullsh It's like because everything on your I was just 65 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: looking at it. That's why I gave up the website. 66 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: And we're not the guys are show that likes to 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: hide good stuff like, No, we want to share. We're 68 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: not the only one where the world's number one source. 69 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: Here's a great source for cannabis information. Yeah, I love that. 70 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: So we're we're in Israeli based startup too, so we're 71 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: talking to the world. We're not just a guy from 72 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: We are not so the CEO and the company's founded 73 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: in Israel. I'm in southern California. In fact, folks, you 74 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: know this is the reason we feel so close. Joe 75 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: and I learned that we are neighbors yesterday were down 76 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: the stream. Yeah, I swear to guy, I didn't realize 77 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: that was you and I was talking to somebody early. 78 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: But dude, there's a guy that looks at the Starbucks. 79 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: The Starbucks, I go to the right there that story 80 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: yesterday to somebody. Wonder we feel so connected? No, wonder 81 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: why I felt such a good left. That's why I 82 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, that was you. I didn't even realize 83 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: that was you. My neighbor is here on the show, 84 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: was little literally. I know I actually heard him saying 85 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: that earlier, but I forgot that that was him. But 86 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: I heard that that somebody said that to me, and 87 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: I remember having a deep conversation with you because I 88 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: was all excited, but it was also a pain of 89 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: my equal going and I was like, how funny, that's 90 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: even so much cooler that you're here. Where are you 91 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: at then, Lauren, I live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and that's 92 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: where I'm from, and actually where Cody and I first met. 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: We went to pharmacy school together at Duquesne University, so 94 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: young pharmaceutical children back into the early days, and you 95 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: guys were friends there, and then you guys grow older. 96 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: You guys both become science this scientific that adviser. Lauren, 97 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: you're here, Cody, you're a chief science officer there. You're 98 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: both basically pharmaceutical geniuses, so to speak, Canada cannabis pharmacy geniuses. 99 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: But here's he Hanna, where did the cannabis? Did you 100 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: guys both talk cannabis there in college? To Actually, that's 101 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: really really hilarious and Cody finds us hilarious too, share 102 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: as well with everyone. I was actually a naysayer, square bear, 103 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: I goat and you know what what really convinced me 104 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: was reading research and really seeing that this is a 105 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: powerful medicine and it is something that we need to 106 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: be teaching in our schools. Uh. And Cody was so 107 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: surprised to see that I took the jump in Pennsylvania 108 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: to be a cannabis pharmacist on our medical program, became enacted. Yeah. Yeah, 109 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: he reached out to me out of nowhere and we 110 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: connected and have been kind of collaborating working together of 111 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: course at the Cannigmah. And so wonderful to have someone 112 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: who's not just like a friend from college, but you know, 113 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: somebody I trust with this information as well, that we 114 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: can bounce these ideas off of each other and learn 115 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: as well. And do you guys write or what do 116 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: you guys do? We both written for the Canigma. You know, 117 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: it's it's a multi dynamic role. So we'll do webinars 118 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: and we'll feature the the you know, something like this 119 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: with our advisors. But Lauren writes articles I articals and 120 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: we both review articles. So instead of getting your typical 121 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: SEO content written by sort of a cannabis insider and 122 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: that get published the cannigmas sort of secret sauces, we're 123 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: providing you an expert review on every article. We're providing 124 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: an expert review on every article where we actually go 125 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: ahead and have a pharmacist or or a geneticist or 126 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: a cultivation expert review the article and put in scientific 127 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: resources and make sure that it's accurate. So that's why 128 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: we're different than high times, way differ than any other side. Actually, 129 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: you're calling people and now hold on, do you go 130 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: as extreme as saying that is not true? If it's 131 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: not true, absolutely, there's plenty of myths that we could 132 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: get to that that are not what you speak on, Cody. 133 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: What so So for me, the biggest one and the 134 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: elephant in the room is always the mangoes before smoking, 135 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: we will get you higher. It's not true, gentlemen, don't 136 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: try to tell me you believe it, because I'm gonna 137 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: go at Actually not at all. Yeah, it's not even 138 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: half but it's but I love that that's what you think, 139 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: But for me, it's not even happen. Yeah, come on, 140 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: well look it's like saying and maybe this is true. 141 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: Maybe you guys know, if you I think it is 142 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: it acid? If you take orange juice with acid or 143 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: something like that makes you psilocybin, that is that a 144 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: true thing too? Or is that maybe not? Yeah? You know, 145 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: you gotta get into the science of drugs. This is 146 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: why pharmacists the best person in this profession. Pharmaco kinetics 147 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: and pharmacodynamics. That's the breakdown of what the study of drugs, pharmacology, 148 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: kinetics is what happens to the drug once you take 149 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: it and put it into your body. And in the 150 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: case of psilocybin, it has to be dephosphorylated, It has 151 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: to be activated by the stomach acid before it actually 152 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: gets turned into the psychoactive trip molecule. And so this 153 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: is actually part of it. So this is the idea 154 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: of taking on an empty stomach with orange juice, activating 155 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: it faster and making it essentially hit harder. Well well, well, well, 156 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: hold on actually does work at a science conference is 157 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: different than there is a plausible mechanism too, So we 158 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: don't know if it works, but that's the thought the 159 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: thought process. How much how much orange juice are you drinking? 160 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: Do you take a pp I for your stomach acid? Like? 161 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: All these matter? Right, It's crazy, like because it's so true. 162 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: There's so many different elements that really partake into doing 163 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: what it is we're trying to do here, right, And 164 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: what is it that you guys are just on the 165 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: site doing that. There's gotta be other things that you 166 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: guys do that on the site. You guys are doing it. 167 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: And let me just jump into this because this is broad. 168 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean I was here and then I ended up 169 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: hitting onto this different the th hc UH University, Right, 170 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: So is this part of your guys thing? And this 171 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: is the I mean the the the zooms or the lives, 172 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, things that you are teaching on here or 173 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: is this not have nothing to do with your guys site? 174 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: So we we make partnerships in the industry and we 175 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: try to elevate their message. So th h c University 176 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: is one of our affiliate partners and so that's where 177 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: you can access a discount code and you can go 178 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: to t c u UH you know, through the Canigma. Essentially, 179 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: we have a lot of partnerships. We do do some 180 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: of our own education. We we have all sorts of 181 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: different avenues where you can learn, whether that's through us 182 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: or through our partners. Are you guys ever been on 183 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: with Ali on clubhouse with us? Oh yeah, that's actually 184 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: what tell us here, because everything you guys are describing 185 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: on like, okay, you guys need to message out too, 186 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: this is perf me right up are alley and I'm 187 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: so finally happy that we're getting the chance to talk 188 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: to you guys as well. And come on this platform. 189 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: And you're down the street. You're gonna be at the house. 190 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: You'll be at our campus very soon. What do you 191 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: mean he's gonna be We have a campus like we 192 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: call it study. Yeah, if you're gonna learn today, Boulevard 193 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: in thirty minutes from the house, little pool bro done 194 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: deal right with the Starbucks? All better yet? Let's go 195 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: me that Earth bowl? Oh yeah, blue, one of these 196 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: are the best right next to Starbucks? Right? You know 197 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: what it is, though, I get I struggle with too 198 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: much choice. You know. It's kind of like when I 199 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: go to a spensery, I'm like, Okay, too many options. 200 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: What do I say that? And I have my go 201 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: choose now and I'm like, no, I want that that 202 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: that that that I just kind of put the same 203 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: thing in the bowl. Oh, you're a brand guy. You 204 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: stick to what you know what I mean. Although I 205 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: have these a few different ones, like I used the 206 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: oats in the strawberry mix together where like it looks 207 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: like soup, but it's so good. I'm like, I've never 208 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: tried that. I want to try a little bit of that, 209 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, the all earthy things that's right there by 210 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: our house. Anyways, that I'll being said. Pharmaceuticals. What got 211 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: you guys in? Both youngsters in college? You guys meet 212 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: there two different stories. I'm sure let's start with ladies first, Lauren, 213 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: what got you to go to pharmaceutical school? And so 214 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: I want to learn this. We're gonna hear your story 215 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: right when we come back. It's Cannabis Talk one oh one. 216 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: Keep it locked. We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk 217 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one. 218 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Kelly Effects. You heard of him, you've seen him. Do 219 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: you want to feel it? 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That 228 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: all means where before we went to break, we're talking 229 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: to the lovely, lovely beautiful Lauren Scientific Advisor Pharmaceuticals. She's 230 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: over there on the conigma. What made you decide to 231 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: dedicate your life when you were such a young great 232 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: square bear, as the chief science officer Cody likes to 233 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: say it, in college over there, going I want to 234 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: be a pharmaceutical Yeah, I knew really early on. I 235 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: loved chemistry. I loved science in high school. So it's 236 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: kind of something I really really wanted to do. And 237 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: at the time, the industry was really begging for pharmacists. Um, 238 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: so you know, you go into pharmacuy school and you 239 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: have to kind of figure out what kind of a 240 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: pharmacist do you want to be? This wasn't an option 241 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: back then, so nothing, right, Oh no, nothing like we 242 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: really weren't even taught in pharmacy school at all. We 243 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: did go over some brief brain chemistry with how all 244 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: of the illicit substances or drugs of abuse interact with 245 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: your brain. We had an optional um drugs of abuse category, 246 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: but nothing that really really talked about this at all. 247 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: And so I went into retail and worked for a 248 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: community pharmacy for about five years until Pennsylvania had their 249 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: cannabis program. You know, and in Pennsylvania it is law 250 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: that every dispensary, because it's only medical, has a pharmacist 251 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: on staff. It is a pharmacy, right, Like, did you 252 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: go dispensary after that? Then? Yeah, I currently work in 253 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: a dispensary in Pennsylvania, So you're the pharmacist on staff. Correct, 254 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: That's a legitimate it should be everywhere. I'm with you 255 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, you know, let me. Actually, it has 256 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: a lot changed since you guys have been you know, 257 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: in school. I mean obviously you know, you guys have 258 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: seen a lot evolved from cannabis. So can you can 259 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about that, guys? So 260 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: I'll let Lauren kind of go first. But I guess 261 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: I just want to point out, like it depends on 262 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: what state you're at, how much has has sort of changed. 263 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: You know, California went adult US, but California has had 264 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: a cannabis market for a long time as opposed to 265 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: you know when we graduated, let her go first, bro, 266 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: you know what, Wow, I appreciate that. I feel like 267 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: never happened. Well, dude, he was doing such a good 268 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: job and then he just kept going and I was like, damn, 269 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: he couldn't control himself. Pretty well he does, but I 270 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: don't know if he's entirely answering the question either. Maybe 271 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't. Yeah, good backup, help him out. How pharmacy 272 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: schools have evolved over the year. Yeah, Like you said, 273 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: you were against the grain, right, You didn't believe in 274 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: the whole movement of cannabis. You just didn't think it 275 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: was something. So maybe that's because it hadn't evolved enough 276 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: or just well we weren't hearing about it enough to 277 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: be honestly honest with you. When I first found out 278 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: that California first had their program in nineties six, I 279 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: was like, how did I not know that I've been 280 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: to California, didn't even notice the dispense series. So it's 281 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: so strange to me that like this is a common thing. 282 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: But I went to pharmacy school and graduated in two 283 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen, and I was not educated about the 284 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: endocannabinoid system or anything like that at all. They are 285 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: slowly updating their curriculums like they are evolving and adapting, 286 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: but more so for the other new drugs and things 287 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: that have come about since, not necessarily about cannabis, but 288 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: so still not as as taught the way it should be. No, 289 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: but Cody and I actually are both stepping our foots 290 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: in and teaching in the universities near to where we live. 291 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: Nice Nice just lectured at the University of California, San Diego, 292 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: So I just I just spend time. And there's a 293 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: cannabis elected for pharmacy students and physicians at the University California, 294 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: San Diego. So this is changing and we're sort of 295 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: part of that pushing that forward. If you guys are 296 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: working at the Spencers, not you guys, Lauren, are you 297 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: titled as a pharmaceutical therapist there? Do the other bud 298 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: tenders refer to you. How does it go? Do I 299 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: have to go in and check in with you first? 300 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: Do I go to a bud tender first? How does 301 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: that work? Yeah, that's a great question, and actually there's 302 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: not a whole strict way about that in our rules 303 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: and regulations. Every dispensary kind of operates a little bit 304 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: differently for what the pharmacist does. But there are two 305 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: main things that we have to do whenever patients come 306 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: into the dispensary. It's that check their certification, see if 307 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: there's any restrictions or limitations that the certifying doctor may 308 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: have placed. And I understand that's quite different from other 309 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: states where any doctor concertifications, but our physicians have to 310 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: go through a four hour education course just like the 311 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: pharmacists do. So I'm required to check the certification and 312 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: make sure that we're following what the doctor wants to 313 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: guide you towards, and then if you want, you can 314 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: have a consultation with me. But the other does Some 315 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: dispensaries don't operate that way where I currently work. You know, 316 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: we do require every brand new patient who's never been 317 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: to a dispensary in Pennsylvania must meet with me. Is 318 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: what she just said, sound like should be an all 319 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: fifty stations and mandatory for every dispenser you walking into 320 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: because of what she just said. If you don't want me, yeah, 321 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: no loss what you want, but you might not need 322 00:15:52,240 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: meoul you get the advice, right, you take Why wouldn't 323 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: you just talk because you just want to get high? 324 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: But but but but the thought behind this, though, is 325 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: that is that you know, why do you think that 326 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: California just gave out these licenses? Because I was part 327 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: of that movement, you know, and even at one point 328 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: I'll even say that I'll go as far as I 329 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: exploited it, meaning that you know, because we know radio. Yeah, 330 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, you like you know, and I 331 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: didn't know you know what I know now, right And 332 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: so again for me, and when I first started this 333 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: in ninety six, you know, you're talking to somebody that 334 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: had a had a license in Los Angeles, like I 335 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: had a script here in Los Angeles. I was one 336 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: of the first license holders in the United States. So 337 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: so and and then I, like I said, I used 338 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: it as a uh money grab, you know, it wasn't 339 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: about anything else until I was having you know, patients 340 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: come in and I started realizing that, oh there's ill 341 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: patients like you guys are really sick, Like this isn't 342 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: a joke. And then all of a sudden, I'm crying 343 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: with people that have AIDS and cancer and then my 344 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: dad ends up dying to cancer and I'm going, holy 345 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: sh it, and it's that seed me and it's changed 346 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: my whole scope of everything that I believe in. Right, 347 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: And so this is when I built this show so 348 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: that I could share my passion with other people. So 349 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: because I knew there was a message that had to 350 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: be out that would help me be more responsible to 351 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: get the word out. So why California, In my opinion, 352 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm asking you, guys from you know, more professional, why 353 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: did they just hand out the licenses and allow us 354 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: to do that? Because, uh, you know, because I don't 355 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: understand that part totally. So so you got a little 356 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: emotional there. No, that was beautiful, and thank you for 357 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: sharing and it it's beautiful to see you sort of 358 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: come around. And no one's gonna blame you for capitalizing 359 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: on the market that there's clear demand. Whether you were 360 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: growing that way or not, somebody was going to grow 361 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: that way to tell don't worry and he was doing 362 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: the right thing on all aspects and the right thing 363 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: in business, and then he did the right thing emotionally 364 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: and for the role cause and he had a license, 365 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean, even though the market was kind of weird. Yeah, 366 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: So so let me just point this out. All the 367 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: tax certificate back then. But yeah, that's all it does 368 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: paying taxes. So listen, cannabis is medicine, right, That's why 369 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: that's where I'm coming from. That's why pharmacists to be involved. 370 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: And I can tell that's the way you feel, right, 371 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: And and if cannabis is medicine, it will be the 372 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: only medicine that you don't get through a pharmacist. All 373 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: other medicines you're legally entitled in the United States of 374 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: America to counseling from a pharmacist. It was passing and 375 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: it is the law of the land. So this is 376 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: the only medicine you're not getting a pharmacist involved. And 377 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: in addition, it's the only medicine you're not going to 378 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: a pharmacy to procure. So the government can't reschedule to 379 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: schedule two three, four five because then it must go 380 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: to a pharmacist. So what we need to do is 381 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: we need to fully deschedule the plant. We need to 382 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: allow both the adult use market to grow and we 383 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: need to create a market for medical patients so that 384 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: we can allow both of these these two prosptus to 385 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: be restructured. Basically, yeah, we need a restructure and we 386 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: have the opportunity. It's not legal yet. Yeah, right, it's 387 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: so crazy, Cody. You're point that it's medicine, right, and 388 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: but it can be fun and if not for everyone, 389 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: and if you want the medical grade and doesn't mean 390 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: the medical grade, which I loved hearing here, doesn't mean 391 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: it's higher potency, not at all. That's the crazier part 392 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: that I don't know if it's just me thinking that way, 393 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: that everyone needs that way because of again being responsible 394 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: right in in a position where you know, we have 395 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: people listening every day and we can come out here 396 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: and just go, let's get high. Guys who want to 397 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: go smoke weed and blah blah blah. You know, you 398 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: should smoke every morning, every day, all the time, and 399 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: just and there's so many people that do you know, 400 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: use their voice for that and and and fortunately for them, 401 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: there's a huge market for it, you know, And and 402 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: it's fun. It's normalization. So I'm not I'm not opposed 403 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: to that, but there's so much more to this conversation. 404 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: And that's the point of the conference, I agree. Yeah, 405 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: and even this conference like like for us and you know, um, 406 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, I maybe heard of the conference, but never 407 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: was really invited or never really thought to come. And 408 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of a lot of conferences 409 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: in the last you know, twenty years, if you will, 410 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: And and you know, what I've recognized is that there's 411 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: a lot of evolvement like that we've grown from just 412 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: the high times festivals to the trade shows to the 413 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: business you know, summits to this and that the speaker 414 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: panels and then smoke and yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's 415 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: it's about to happen. Yeah, And so so I'm just 416 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm so interested, you know, to to watch 417 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: where we're at. I guess you know, when we're in 418 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: our eighties and nineties and we're looking back going wow, 419 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: we help pay that, you know, And and it's so 420 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: important that we put that proper message together. So you 421 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: guys having such a education and and and using your 422 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: abilities to I guess share with the world is so important. 423 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: How can we help you guys get that message out more? 424 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean you got to follow us on the Enigma. 425 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: You have to go to the website of course and 426 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: read our content. Uh, Cody and I both have Instagram accounts, 427 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: follow those as well. Are they mine? Is um lv 428 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: farm with an F F A R M D you 429 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: know what about you? So? So definitely the Canigma right 430 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: right now, the Canigma. What we do is we search 431 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: engine optimized where you can find all of your questions answered. 432 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: So if you have a question about cannabis, google that 433 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: plus the word Canigma C A N N I G 434 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: M A and you will find an answer reviewed by 435 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: an expert that you can get your question answered in 436 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: the most scientific way possible and in a trustworthy way. 437 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Because it's hard to know what Google? How can we 438 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: get you do that? On Cannabis Talk one on one guy, 439 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: you guys own this side or just as our partners 440 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: on the site. How do you guys fall into this? 441 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: They just hired you so so Laurens our advisor. I 442 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: I sort of recruited her right, I was like, Hey, 443 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: you're in cannabis here, pharmacists, you'd be really great. I 444 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: got linked in, recruited right, So they're an Israeli based company. 445 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: They're looking for US based experts. I got the tap 446 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: and sort of worked my way up from advisor to 447 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: then reviewer and then now chief science officer. This is awesome. 448 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: Now you get to validate all the crap that people 449 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: are safe stating with that ain't true, this is true, 450 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: this is not true quite literally, and and also sometimes 451 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: saying we don't know, so stop saying we do right, 452 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: like like sometimes we just tell facts we can't prove 453 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: or deny this. Yeah. Look, there's some things that's responsible, 454 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: that's being responsible. There's some things that are almost impossible 455 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: to test. They'll give you an example right now on 456 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: the condigma. We're publishing an article right now. The best 457 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: way to put out a half lit joint. Okay, I 458 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: can try to give you science horror content. I can 459 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: tell you how things degrade in that joint, but no 460 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: one has studied a half smoked joint to tell you 461 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: what's actually happened. So I can only speculate, right, and 462 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: I to old school, flick it out the window and 463 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: it tastes, and then when you re light it, they'll 464 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: like to tell you a secret if you blow it 465 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: out and then you relight it, you'll get a fresher hit. 466 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: You don't taste the taste of it, yeah, just it 467 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: just tastes better. I don't know, just that first hit, 468 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: just that first hit, you know how you hit it again, 469 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: like when you restarted again, it kind of taste burnt. Yeah. 470 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: So those burning those are the tars that are forming 471 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: when that super hot cherry starts to degrade the plant material. 472 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: That sticky tar catches on the the rolling paper behind 473 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: that cherry, and it stinks. It's smoke, right, and so 474 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: that's that's what you're tasting on that second one. And 475 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: it's dryer right because it dried out while. But look, 476 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of science here. There's no science 477 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: behind the way. It was like my fun fact for 478 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: the day, but it was just for me. But it 479 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: makes it was but it was it's not you know, 480 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: there's no science or facts behind the air blows out 481 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: those things that was just talking about. So it tasted 482 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: different on that first hit. Is it healthier? No, you 483 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: probably don't have evidence for that. There's the proof there, 484 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: but you do have proof that he just talked about things. 485 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: He's like, come back, we're here some more facts, some 486 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: more things that are facts right here on can for 487 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: no one real quick. If you blow it out too much, 488 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: you could blow the whole, the whole thing up, you 489 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: lose it all. Yeah, we'll be right back with Cannabis 490 00:23:52,000 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Talk one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one 491 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: oh one. Turn your typical and to some special folks 492 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: like this show right here over here at Cannon mid 493 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you right now, when it comes to 494 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: inf use products, the flavor you taste should be just 495 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: as enjoyable as the feeling you experienced. Visit the website 496 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: laurent Oils dot com and I love the folks at 497 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: Loran Oils. I was just out here and somebody asked 498 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: me for some loran oils and I didn't have any 499 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: on but thank you for asking about it. Out Here 500 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: at cand in Pasadena, were with the wonderful pharmacists Lauren Rabbel, 501 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: science rebel. Excuse me, I should have asked, uh, Solar 502 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: because we do have Laurent oils here, do I? And 503 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: I knew he did. My point is somebody asked me 504 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: and I didn't. Solar wasn't around me. Nobody was around me. 505 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: As my bad ankle. And it was randomly when I 506 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: was walking through the hotel and somebody randomly brought up 507 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: loran oils and randomly asked. It was really weird, but 508 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: shout out to lorn Oils there that even somebody asked 509 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: me for. And Lauren, And of course we've been talking 510 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: to Cody as well. Every you think you guys are 511 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: describing that you guys are doing over there on this 512 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: website phenomenal. I love how you made your way up Cody. 513 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: I love hearing how they went after you on linked 514 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: In and just got you an Israeli based company. The 515 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: thing that we love about an Israeli based company that 516 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys can attest to as well, is 517 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: that Israel is ahead of the game when it goes 518 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: to studying, looking research, to papers, everything else. The first 519 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: place is Israel as a pharmacist and you're looking at 520 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: that information. How much does it just piss you off 521 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: that we can't just grab it and say look at this, 522 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: Why can't we do that here in the States? Well, 523 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: you know what, it is frustrating because you see a 524 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: lot of times, um, we're hearing that we don't have 525 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: any research in this industry. That it's not there, it 526 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: doesn't exist, and a lot of times the legislation is 527 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: waiting on that because we don't have it in the 528 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 1: United States then either. And it's like, hello, can you 529 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: wake up? There is so much out there. Israel is 530 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: number one place for it. I mean, Canada is starting 531 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: to pump a little bit up to but Cody reads 532 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: a lot more of it than I do. I think. 533 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I I covered the whole camut, right, Lauren 534 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: gets assigned articles. I look at all of them. Uh. 535 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: And so what it comes down to is is Israel 536 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: led the way right, going all the way back fifty 537 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: even sixty years to Raphael Schulem, who first identified the 538 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: chemical structure of THHC then went on to identify the 539 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: endocannabinoid system in the nine nineties. So it has been 540 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: a hub. They also have a better medical program. They're 541 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: using medical cannabis for more reasons. It's available you. They 542 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: issue you your dry herb vaporizer from Stuarts and Bickle. 543 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: Your volcano comes from the government in Israel, Okay, because 544 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 1: we recognize the value of cannabis. However, you know, the 545 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: US is pushing forward and slowly becoming one of these 546 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: leading in these researchers, and and it's in conferences like 547 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: this where we highlight that research and we also get 548 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: the people together that can start to plan for the 549 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: next layer of that. So Israel has led the way, 550 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: but I'm excited to see North America and actually Italy 551 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: really drive ahead this the science side of this. I 552 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: got some you know, I got something for you. I mean, 553 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: you know how I'm always talking about, like that that 554 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: morning news segment of just something that someone wanted to 555 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: do something. Dude, we could drop him. He could do it. 556 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: You're the man. That's just what do you think you see? 557 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: I speak blue, so right now you don't speak blues. 558 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what hap right now? Well, you 559 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: were just talking about something that he went to a 560 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 1: total different story in his head and a total different thing, 561 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: but utilizing you because you're so dope. And he didn't 562 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: say any of this, but I know exactly what he's thinking. 563 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: I beat around me because I don't want to sit 564 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: like just appreciate the kind words. Man. Look, this is 565 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: my favorite topic, so well versed on it. And what 566 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: do you guys have here? Pamplets? Teach you guys passed? 567 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: How did you guys have a booth here or something 568 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: or what do you guys do? No booth, he no booth. 569 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: We just want to give people some free information because 570 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: that's the whole premise of the site, right, it's free 571 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: information for the masses about cannabis and everything you need 572 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: to know. And hopefully you like to site enough to 573 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: you know, click on the bond on the side and 574 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: buy that by that piece you were gonna buy anyway. 575 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: Th h c V is on there by the way, 576 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: which is what you said you needed to study. And 577 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: I'm sure he can either one of them. Probably CBDV 578 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: is what I've been told. I need to take more 579 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: pH c V, h t V. You said CBDV. He's right, 580 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: that's different, and you did says I need the CBD 581 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: with the V and it it sounds like CV, alright, 582 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: So so the best way to look at this, right, 583 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: so you can put different letters at the end of 584 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: the cannabinoid and it and it means something. Right. So 585 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: th hc normally has let's call it five fingers. Okay, 586 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: let's make it simple. Th h c V only has 587 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: three fingers and only three things. Now that changes the 588 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: way it activates your receptors. So the the idea is 589 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: at low doses anyway, At low doses, th h c 590 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: V will actually blunt appetite rather than stimulated, so it's 591 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: the anti munchiese at low doses. At higher doses you 592 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: still get munches with the V. Even with the V 593 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: the three fingered about three armed three go together, so 594 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: so now it's eight no, no, So what it is 595 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: is normally it's got an arm that's five fingers long. 596 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: Th HCS five fingers up and t a c V 597 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: is only three fingers long, so that the three go 598 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: a little further. You got shorter. But those are I 599 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: love your analogy though, point like, thank you wells great. 600 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: That's not the only by phasic effect too, though, so 601 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: there's more than one, not just with stimulation. Well, stimulation 602 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: is the next one. You set appetite at first, correct? Correct, 603 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: you did say it was stimulate the appetite of bit. Yes, 604 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: we also intoxication levels as well, and so same with stimulation. 605 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: So at lower levels you know not so much, but 606 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: at the higher levels it is in fact, so you 607 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: won't get high on a low dose of THHC, but 608 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: if you take enough of it you will get high 609 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: pasive cannabinoids. Yeah, sorry, Yeah, And I just got some TCV. 610 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: Somebody get that guy that was just here. They gave 611 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: me a bottle of TCV and he said it's low dose, 612 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that helps me a lot because I 613 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: just had ancle surgery. I don't know if you guys 614 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: go acle surgery. I have. Oh I thought you were 615 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: just comfy. He's got a scar like that. My book 616 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: just came off last Thursday. Yeah, literally last Thursday. That's 617 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: why I'm literally finally got washed. Oh major seriously, guy 618 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: split the bone over to It's a major surgery. So 619 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: hearing all this stuff, I hear it's up. I feel 620 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: like it's perfect timing for me because the nurses that 621 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: we've seen walking around the song, just like you guys 622 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: who are a real pharmaceutical specialists. Hearing all this stuff, 623 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: I feel like it's gospel to me right now. I 624 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: feel like God has me here at can Med and 625 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: you guys being a part of this to literally speak 626 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: to me for sure, and I feel like it's been 627 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: preaching to me and everybody else gets to listen that 628 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: God willingness is helping everybody out there like it's doing 629 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: me because and if it is, you know, the feeling 630 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: that I'm feeling and the overwhelmness that I feel about 631 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: can med and about people like you doing what you're doing, 632 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: because it's it's what we need, right. People who care 633 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: that are intelligent, people who like you said, we weren't 634 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: even taught this because when you were in school, Lauren, 635 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: you didn't learn minimal And to top it off, you 636 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: were against it. You weren't a stoner like Cody growing 637 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: up and he wanted to get into pharma studicles, going 638 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: why do you want to get in? Because it is 639 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: to be a stoner? He parady beat the men in college. 640 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: I guarantee you were smoking wing to the dorms and 641 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: she wasn't exactly what is one of our greatest accomplishments though, 642 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: Uh well we were beer punk champions freshman eleven rounds. 643 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: But that's big, that's you. The two of you guys 644 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: want eleven rounds as a team. This is one of 645 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: our earliest memories together. Or you probably had a better 646 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: run at that than you're gonna at the connectment because 647 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: they're doing eleven there is harder than doing a good story. 648 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: Here go check out their work there everything. You guys 649 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: are doing a great I can't wait to do more 650 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: things with you guys. You're neighbors, so we're gonna connect. 651 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna connect with us because you're his old friends, 652 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: so your family were family. Anything we left out that 653 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: you guys want to mention about the connigma or anything 654 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: else that misconceptions that are out there a better off. 655 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: Let's go there first before we let you go close 656 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: to it. Start with you, because you're right next to me. 657 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: What is that biggest misconception as a pharmaceutical specialist, as 658 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: the chief science officer that you love to give not people? 659 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: Are you ready for this? Your personal friends that you 660 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: grew up smoking with, that you know who have knowledge 661 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: of cannabis, and you go, yo dog, let me tell 662 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: you this, know this, What does that knowledge give them? 663 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: So that even for those people who think they're used 664 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: to smoking cannabis, that there's three major types of cannabis 665 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: and only one of them is um even overtly intoxicating. 666 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: There are balanced ratios and there's even beautiful crystalline hemp 667 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: flower that is non intoxicating but smells and tastes just 668 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: like cannabis. Yeah, absolutely, and there's so us benefit from that. 669 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: Can I get some of that? Well, it would be 670 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: great in a situation where you know you're trying to 671 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: avoid that psychoactivity. You've gotta get things done, but you're 672 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: having some ankle pain. Yeah, and you still want it 673 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: to work, but you don't need to get psychoactively. Yeah, 674 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: there's still a little bit of th HC and CBD. 675 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: You can find this on the website. Modifies your high 676 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Go check out the story on the connecting down. It 677 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: puts a ceiling effect on ye anything you give information 678 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: out well, I mean working in the dispensary every day, 679 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: I want to just kind of sort of shake every 680 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: single patient that doesn't come to speak to me that 681 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: it's just there for the high th HC and that's 682 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: all they're looking for, the th HC chasers. And I'd 683 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: love to, you know, wish and hope that all the 684 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: grower processors would stop just shooting for those high THC percentages. 685 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: Only there's so much more that matters. I mean, first, 686 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: quality first, and foremost what you're putting it into any 687 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: of the products that you're making is so important, So 688 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: please grow it appropriately. I mean, there are so many 689 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: talks today about just like the testing parameters and how 690 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: they're important soil effects the growth of the plant in general. 691 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: But not only that, but you need to know the 692 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: turpeans percentages. You need to know the other cannabinoids because 693 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: you know, uh, the entourage a fact we are all 694 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: seeing in the research that when other cannabinoids are present, 695 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: there is a greater effect. It's not just only th 696 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: HC that you need, and it's not only the high percentages. 697 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: I've tried some fift th h C A stuff that 698 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: does really kind of rocked my world. And tell me 699 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: why because the Trapian profiles because of the or what 700 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: is it? What do you tell us why I do? 701 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: I think it's the unique blend of all of the 702 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: different components of the flower that reach you than differently 703 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: in someone else. And then my brain is different from 704 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: your brain, and the uneducated mind is just going I 705 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: just need to get the most level and the bang 706 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: for the buck is what the consumers is always looking for. 707 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: That's how we learned to shop and it can't be 708 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: about that. As we learn more about minor cannabination, easier 709 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: to not have to do that actually, to just find it, 710 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: like what's really good for you? And learn and I 711 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: and I value that the education you guys bring to us. 712 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep always connotatis. Yeah. I mean you're not 713 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: going for moonshine to have a good time. Yeah, yeah, 714 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: that you're just going to Yeah, you go to crazy 715 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: because I have a glass of wine instead of But 716 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: I feel like before this conference it hasn't stamped my 717 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: brain to really go. It doesn't matter the potency, it 718 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be sent which is unheard of. But 719 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, oh my god, I want to get the 720 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: forties and heard great, very high, stid high. We're just 721 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: still high and eighteens and twenties and a lot of 722 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: these unfortunately, there's going to be you know, a collusion 723 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: or delusion inside of the even the testing facilities, you know, 724 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: because a lot of these testing facilities are taking payola, 725 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: which is the shame on all of them for allowing 726 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: us to put ship in our systems, you know when 727 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: they know it's bad us today. Yeah, oh is there? 728 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: Yeah and I missed. Everyone loses. Yeah, everybody loses. Everyone loses. Yeah. 729 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't help, no, not worth it. Yeah. And what 730 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: I would point out is, you know, you can buy 731 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: a thirty percent flower smoke a gram of it, that's 732 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: three hundred milligrams of th HC. You can buy flour 733 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: and smoke one and a half grams of it and 734 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: that's three hundred milligrams of t HC. So you don't 735 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: need to go buy and pay extra for it. You 736 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: can just smoke a little bit more of the other flower. 737 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: And some people would argue that's different. We don't have 738 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: studies comparing them, but I'm gonna tell you from a 739 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: pharmaceutical perspective and all other medicines, we would absolutely consider it. Yeah, 740 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: if you're hold on a secret, Cody, simple because am 741 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: I hearing this right? Cody? And please advise me as 742 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: I heard this. I'm taking what you just said, Cody, 743 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: is this Folks don't spend for the top shelf unless 744 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: you really got the money and you wanted to write. 745 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: But when you're looking at putting it into yeah, exactly 746 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: doesn't need to make it just doesn't even make a 747 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: top shelf because I was high. Because just because the 748 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: levels doesn't mean that it's gonna taste. It's it's gonna 749 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna smoke, it's good. Most expect it's gonna look 750 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: as good. It just means that it has a higher 751 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: t at C level. That's it. I'm show though that price, 752 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: that high th HC product is going for the highest price. 753 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: That's just that's the way it is. And this is 754 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: the reason growers are targeting it because it's more profitable, 755 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: and it's not against the growers. They're trying to make 756 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: a freaking living. But but in some cases it might 757 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: not because if the th HC level you're saying, if 758 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: the TC level is super high, they still wouldn't be 759 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: didn't look right? Yeah, yeah, I think that's part of it. 760 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 1: I think you should. You should find a farmer who's 761 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: who's using best growing practices. Ideally is using some sort 762 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: of organic high but hopefully they can. You can find 763 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: some outdoor stuff that has really good aromatics, but there 764 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: is no number on that that label that should make 765 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: you feel like this is exceptionally better. It's all about 766 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: the quality of what's inside of there. It doesn't matter 767 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: how high that THC percentages. Well, thank you guys so 768 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: much for you guys are awesome. I can't let you 769 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: guys go. Well, thank you so much for having us 770 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: Nigma dot com ask all your questions to Google Plus 771 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: Conigma man and with us. You guys gonna be with 772 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: us one day, I could. We're gonna chat, Bro, We're 773 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: gonna have a barbecue. Well you'll be there. Student than that, 774 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: Well there it is guys as Cannabis Talk one on 775 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: one and remember this if no one else loves you. 776 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one 777 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever 778 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.