WEBVTT - Conversations About The Lakers 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.360 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.520 Seillers podcast with your host Now funk that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:17.360 low glasses, Malone. So, I was just on the phone 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.040 right and I was ordering the same card from my phone, 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.560 right Tom, and they had like I'm not gonna lie. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:27.560 My phone be doing all kind of crazy ship like 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:31.640 it always say extended, like if I called somebody regular number, 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.400 you know what I mean, Like if I cast somebody 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:37.000 regular number, it'll just go to like a weird T 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:39.600 mobile message or like I'm calling out of the country. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.640 Feel me when people call it go straight to voicemail 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.120 like it's fucked up. You mean it's it's extended. They 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.479 don't even say like you know five or you know 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.159 you know, uh, you know what what is all the 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:57.440 towers and ship my g is like they don't say 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.000 none of that. It'd be you still got that three 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:06.280 G right, it's during that verse a O dirty. So 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.440 I was I was hitting him. I'm like they had 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.720 been trying to send me a SIM car since last year, 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.280 and I'm like, yeah, I've been chipping off that SIM card, 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.440 so fine, like let me get the same card. So 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.800 I'm on a little text app, right, you know, you're 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.600 texting them back and forth. So I'm hitting him. I'm like, yeah, 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.360 you know, I'm ready for the same card. So I said, 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.119 m here's the address, and he's like, what's phone are 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:29.920 you using. I'm like, yeah, I got the iPhone eight. 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:35.840 It was like the iPhone eight. He said, you can 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.760 tell what somebody they texted? You know, we're on thirteen. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.040 Like that was funked up right. I was like, it's 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.440 just a bit like you just you're trying to phone 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.240 shame me, because like you're trying to phone sham me. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.040 He's like, look, let let me calculate the discount. Like 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.640 he read ready the upgrade. He said, I got the 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:57.880 iPhone A pro, the big I phone eight plus. So 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.960 they don't even say plus the words like pro max 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.680 is it so he' said. So he's like, hold on 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.440 one second, he said, are you thinking about up grad 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:05.800 And that's what I thought, a let me see what 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.519 the price I can give you. So he comes back, 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.880 he's like, yeah, we can give it to you for 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.839 six d and twenty five dollars out the door. Now 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.919 mind you. I just grabbed joker phone because Joker broke 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.000 his phone arguing with his ex wife, and so I 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.080 just gave him like seventeen d dollars to give him 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:26.880 a new phone. Right, So I'm like, yeah, I'm not 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.160 paying no payments though with the six I'm not giving 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.160 y'all know names, Like, no, that's out the door. Just 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:35.840 hefically text, just please get the new phone. He's like, 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.240 I know your phone have to not be working correctly. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.240 I'm like, it's working fine, No it's not. He's taking 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.200 me back. So imagine reading the texas as they come through. 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.240 It's impossible for it to be working right, Yes, it 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.640 is working fine. He was like, no, it's not working fine. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.760 He's like six hundred twenty five out the door. There's 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.800 no taxes, nothing, He said, this is just take the 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:59.840 just get a new phone, and then literally just logged 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:04.960 out of the text now, bro, please get you a 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.359 new phone. Bro. I Phone eight is outrageous. Bro. Wait, 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.240 year did that come out? I don't know, like two thousand, 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.359 I don't don't act like, don't act like it came 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:15.560 out twenty years. I Phone come out with three new 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.440 phones every year. Probably came out two twenty. No, they 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:27.480 come out it probably came I Phone eight, not fourteen. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.560 We year did I Phone A Plus come out. I'm 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:42.360 gonna google it. Google that. That's funny. Oh Trusty came 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:51.000 out seventeen seventeen. Yeah, it's funny. Right. So in computer world, 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:57.320 glasses come on, in computer world, I'm making a phone. No, no, 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.840 think about No, it is a computer. Know how old 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.400 is the computer you got in front of you right now? Now? 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.560 It ain't five years old. You can't run them pro 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:13.440 tools on those on that on the fucking pro tools 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.680 from eight years ago. Man, get you a new phone. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.479 I couldn't see this a giant phone. You're a big person, 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:23.640 you got big hands. But get you another important important 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:26.800 But it wasn't that, man. I don't pay payments on 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.159 my phone, right, So then it's like then I have 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.560 to decide it's a new phone worth two thousand dollars 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:37.240 for me to make phone calls on? Yes, no it 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:44.000 will now, bro. I got laptops, iPads, I Max, Mac pros, 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.600 bit Max, I got all kinds of computers. Why am 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.320 I old? Why is Apple always making me update stuff? 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:57.080 You're not making it better worse? And you know the 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:00.240 main thing and the main thing I'm holding to know 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.680 my phone? You know what I'm holding on the mind phone. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:08.839 They too. It has the home button. I have grown 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.800 comfortable with the home button. I like the home Look. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.479 I hate having to touch my screen. Look, look, look, 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.120 I have never in my life been affiliated with the game. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:22.839 Because please stop tripping right now. All right, I've never 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.560 been affiliated with the game. But you are tripping right now. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:34.680 You're tripping. G two child at the motherfucker. That's probably 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.800 why you never had no service your phone over hill. 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.440 It's true. She keeps tripping out. I'm trying to get 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.840 the new tip card. I'm trying to get the new 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.440 sim card right there. I'm like, sive me the new 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:51.000 sim card. They like sim card this and you are maniacal, 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.359 by the way, because I know where you're going with this. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.000 Your maniacal. But go ahead and continue because I know 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.720 exactly where you're going with this. But you know, simp friend. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:05.640 All right, phone brother, man, my brother, no cling a 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:10.919 square brother. It's telling you my brother, my non square brother, 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:18.000 get another phone. Please, thank you. No sailings glasses, Malone 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.440 Peters in the route. I got my brothers from my 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.360 favorite podcast and all the podcasts, which is Hoops and Bruised. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.000 Some of the most accurate and funniest takes in all 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:33.880 of basketball world. And and you're write time because if 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:41.160 we're talking about old things and old phones, and I'm 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.560 pressured to get a new phone, why should I get 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.160 a new phone? If my phone was an all time great? 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:50.720 Why should I get a new phone that my my 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.600 iPhone eight is an all time great? Your phone is 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.839 not Lebron James stopped playing games. My phone is definitely Lebron. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:04.040 Her phone is Anthony Day. My phone is definitely years 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:11.320 and years, years and years of impressive certain What the 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:17.800 fuck this is the Lebron James of iPhones, iPhone eight, trusty, reliable, 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.560 It ran well, years and years. The screen broke that 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.360 I put the screen back together. It took all the 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:28.200 new programming. It was awesome, but you know what happened. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:35.119 What happened is eventually it stops functioning properly. And even 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:39.040 though I can't tell all the time right that it 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:45.320 is not functioning properly, it still isn't functioning properly, like right, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.640 just like you're telling me, you like, I just want 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.600 to make phone calls, Lebron Jack, want to just get buckets. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.040 But that don't mean that the new models don't have 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.080 more things. You could use the actual phone for it. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.480 It makes perfect sense. It's no, it's not the same thing. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:11.400 It's the same. It's the same. Lebron is more like, uh, 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.760 like an old school Chevy than he is an iPhone eight. Bro. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.640 He is definitely got an old Yes he is, because 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.800 sometimes the motherfucker's don't still work. Yes, Frank, the key 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.440 in that bitch and you're like, it just parts hard 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:31.560 to find. It's Chevy. It's not an old school Chevy 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.560 because you can always make I got old school Chevies 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.840 that run great right now. You can always fix them 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.480 and they run great. But like technology, no it's not, 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:44.960 it's over. Eventually you cannot download the radio technology. Yeah, 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.080 hell yess a radio on my joint. They got radio. 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.000 That's my whole point. Yeah, my rider worked with my phone. 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.720 My Chevy work with my phone. Blue too, over got 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:04.720 the new HAIRPI over. Lebron James is like a phone 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:09.920 like basketball players are like technology, Like eventually it's just over. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:16.200 There's no updating. You can't put the new ls in there. Lebron, though, 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.800 there's no but but but the difference between Lebron and 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:21.680 the iPhone eight is like there is no better version 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:25.800 of Lebron than Lebron. Of course, the is over version 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.920 of Steph Curry. That's Steph Curry. But when the old 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.280 model of n over, he's not the old he's not 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.720 the old model. The new models of the new model 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:41.640 is not as is the old model. Lebron is still Lebron. No, 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:47.000 he's not none of these. Lebron shot the board twenty 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.760 two times a game. Last year we won thirty five games. 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.600 He played fourty minute But but I don't like that though, 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.280 because that's that's kind of hypocritically, because you're the main 0:09:58.360 --> 0:09:59.920 one in let to talk about it's a team game. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.520 He was out that playing with G leaguers. He was 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:10.640 played after was played. Russell Westbrood played sixty eight games. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:16.800 That's an m v P and and they had a 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:23.880 rookie from Alabama starting. They had three Hall of famers starting, 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:30.599 had three Hall of famers starting. Actually, actually, you you 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.600 have the right thinking, wrong person. Russell Westbrook is who 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.079 you're thinking about. Russell Westbrook didn't even play as many 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.480 minutes as Lebron James. You missed my point. Russell Westbrook 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.120 is who you're thinking about. Because all those cards in 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.760 the league I've caught up to Russell Westbrook. They're now 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.480 bat than him, they're smarter than him. They can go 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.400 out and get and give you ten rebounds the game 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.160 they wanted to intend, assist if they want, if they 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.720 really wanted to, could do that. How many guys Russell 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.400 Westbrook when last year tell me that can't get you? 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:02.640 No ten every No, he can't get, No, he can't, can't, No, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:11.520 he can he cannot, No, he can't heed. He gonna 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.400 want to have a real question that he gonna do it. 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.760 Remember I said he's not gonna have a real question 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.439 is to hit me up when he retired. I don't 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:23.079 think it took. It took Russe until he was in 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.680 like his a fear to do that. Though, Let's be realistic, 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.800 like Russell Westbrook is an outdated model of Russell Westbrook. 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:35.360 There's no one else James in the NBA. Nobody is 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.439 lebron noo is over Russell ten years to run the 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.599 rest of the players off all of his rosters so 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.439 that he can demand the ball for forty seven and 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:48.120 a half minutes a game. Exactly, how can you play 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:52.200 with the like? This is my point, and I don't 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.480 know how did Lebron's media machine get so good at this? 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.840 But y'all will blame everybody, like, how is this consist? 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.120 I didn't blame you can hear me blame Russ. I 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.319 just said, you're an example of calling Lebron and the 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.839 iPhone ate your iPhone, which you need to get rid of. 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:10.200 It is wrong. Russell Westbrook is the iPhone you need 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.400 to get rid of. Russell Westbrook is a forty seven 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.240 million dollar iPhone. And don't wrong. I love Russ. There's 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.680 no disrespect to us. Russ is one of my favorite 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.439 players of all time. He shouldn't be in this for 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.000 the past. No, no, he is. He should be. Russ 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.280 is one of the most exhilarated basketball players to ever watch, 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.160 but he's also one of the most painful basketball players 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.480 to ever watch, because he doesn't slow down, and even 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.640 as he's gotten older, he still plays as fast as 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.160 he did when he was twenty two, and he ain't relaxed. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.640 I disagree with that, though, because he can stand around 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.200 the rim and get rebounds, he can pass the ball 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.240 in the pick and roll and get assists. But if 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.040 he's not making smart basketball players, he's taken away from 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.560 you and if he's not making threes shooting an all 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.080 time NBA works from three point percentage, then yeah, it's terrible. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:13:01.400 Lebron is just know guy, that's a better version of 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:08.599 Lebron than Lebron is better version of Janice is a 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.840 better version of Lebron. Let me ask your question, how 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.719 do you blame the person with the highest so so 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.400 Russell Westbrook who has the highest usage rate on the 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:24.679 Lakers team, it's Lebron who shoots the most shot on 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:29.080 the Lakers team. That that has nothing to do with anything. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.960 Who shoots this the most shot on the Lakers team? 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.120 That has nothing to do with anything. Just the question. 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:44.400 It's go ahead continued, Oh plays the most minutes on 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:50.120 the Lakers team. Okay, go ahead continue. It's literally him, 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:54.880 He's the nucleus of the universe. There's never First off, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.439 he won more games with players nowhere near as good 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.680 as Russell Westbrooks. He won as he won more games 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.319 with more Williams, who is not as good as Russell 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:10.520 Westbrook now or ever in life. That did happen. But 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.439 you're not gonna like he's a better player, but you 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.080 can't win order. It's not you're not going to win 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.120 with Russell Westbrook. You're not going to win with Lebron 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:25.840 James any longer. That part of the game. There, there, there, there, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.720 There are two things. Lebron has probably seen his best 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.120 not probably Lebron has seen his best days. I don't 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.760 know if Lebron can be the focal point on the 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.200 champions now. I don't know. I don't know. Lebron cannot 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:40.680 be the focal point of championship team anymore. Also, also, also, 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.200 they can't win with Russell Westbrook playing the way that 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.120 they've been playing with Russell Westbrook. I don't think the 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.760 team hold on. I don't think as bad as the 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.960 team was, but the way they was playing the game 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:57.600 of basketball is what made the team bad. As bad 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:00.120 as it was, I didn't think Russell would be like, Look, 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:01.600 I didn't think they were gonna win a championship. I 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.440 thought they would be a playoff team, you know, a 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.560 good team, maybe you know the second round be okay. 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.320 But when I saw Russell Westbrook in the corner all year, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:14.520 what you want him to do just before teen years? 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.880 I don't Russell. Russell Westbrook is the least winnable All 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:26.440 Star point guard in the history of this league period talking. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.880 You know, it's not name an All Star point guard 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:30.880 that is harder to win around in the history of 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.680 this league than Russell Westbrook. Every other one except Russell 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:41.840 west Real Brandon, everybody with me, everybody naming naming every 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:46.760 point every all star point guard, step Far, very step Far, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.280 mar Bury, Steve Francis. We can keep going. Come down 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:50.760 on your mic, a little come down on your mic 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:56.120 a little bit, ste Not not everybody's pet Pete Peas, Mike, Superlie, 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:06.480 hot So Westboden. It's harder year and the culture of 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.720 the year in order to get to the finals with 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:17.360 Russell Westbrook. The Thunder went to the finals, okay, in 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:21.560 the carter finals, I think in the conference from Russell 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.040 Westbrook is one of the most successful point guards in 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.000 this in the history of the league. This is just ridiculous. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.280 The problem is when you don't allow him to be 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.920 the one thing in the NBA he's an all time 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.680 grade at It's simple, it's not deep. He took a 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:40.320 team last year to the playoffs. This year he's not 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.840 in the playoffs. So you're gonna blame the second guy 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.760 with the highest usage rate on the team. Second minutes 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:52.520 the second most shots on the team by far. You're 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:58.400 gonna blame Anthony Davis. Technically a Davis average thirty five minutes. Okay, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.160 you're gonna blame. So you're gonna play the third guy 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.320 with the third amount of minutes. And this is what 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.840 kills me. People talked about injuries for us last season, right, 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:14.440 Katie played less games in lebron Kyrie played less games, 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.120 and Anthony Davis, yet the Nets were in the playoffs. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.040 What we like to do here in laker Land ever 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:24.560 since the arrival of Your Highness is we're like, we're 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.240 gonna blame the third guy. We're gonna blame the fourth guy. 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.560 We're gonna blame the fifth guy. We're gonna blame the 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.000 fifth guys. We're not gonna blame the two guys we're 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.920 giving eighty million dollars to. When in the history of 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.200 basketball has that ever, to not make the playoffs, to 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:43.320 not make a plan. It's really Malik's fault. It's really 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:47.440 the fact Kendrick Nunn is hurt. It's really Austin Reid 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.760 thought we didn't make a play in. It's really injuries fault. 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:57.480 We didn't make a play in. It's really Russell. We 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:04.080 didn't make a play in play, it's over. Time, it's over, 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.920 it's over. It's oh and it's okay, that's over. But 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.879 we have to stop doing the same thing we have 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:16.080 done for this man's whole career. We have to stop. 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:24.560 We all know, we all have we all know the 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:29.000 King compromises talent. We notice we all have agreed on 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:33.760 multiple different platforms that literally he compromised Antoine Jamison his 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.399 lack of perimeter skills as a scorer, right, his he 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.320 has to go to the cup or he's this really 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:44.800 inefficient three point shooter. Inefficient for a perimeter guard. Right. 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.000 You have to think the kind of guards that's winning 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.280 with that is Steph Curry. That's the only point guard 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.240 that's winning with that. Chris Paul is not winning with that. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.000 Steph Curry the only point guard that has has the 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.720 focal point of offense that's winning. And it just happened 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.720 to be that he time to shoot fifty from three, 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:07.760 which is crazy. So again we're having simple conversations, yet 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.359 we constantly keep brushing the blame for every other player. 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:16.560 It went from Lebron carries players too. It's everybody else fault. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:20.359 You're not making a play in. He played more minutes, 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:24.840 score more points, took more shots at highest use in rates, 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:29.160 and we're losing games. It's nobody else's fault but Lebron James. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:33.000 It's not injuries. Because the Nets made the play in, 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.280 they won more games. We want to blame Russell Westbrook 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.920 because we're compromising him. We're saying, hey, don't be a 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:42.200 point guard on this team, Russell, because we have Lebron James, 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.040 and Lebron James is one of the best point guards 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.080 in the history, which is ridiculous. He's never been a 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.200 point guard. He's always been a playmaking small forward that 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.240 plays from the top of the perimeter. But when you 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.200 slow down, simple, when you slow down, you lose a step. 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.000 When you are designated, when they're when the defense because 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.800 in front of you and you're shooting more threes than 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:03.800 you ever having your career. You're about eight to nine, 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:09.880 you're thirty four three point shooter. Your offense is inefficient 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.040 and it lacks consistency. Not to mention, if you take 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.639 the best probably one of the better point Russell Westbrook 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:25.359 over the last fifteen years is probably Russell Westbrook is 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.080 a top five point guard. In his last Now, now 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:33.680 you're about to lie. Mean, yeah, I'm talking yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.159 obviously Russell's top five all time. Like, what are we 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:43.080 talking about? No, No, he's not. No, yes, yes, you 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.760 can't name five point guards with better arrestumes depends on 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:47.840 what you want. Do you want to win? You want 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:53.080 to you can't. You know you're a liar. That's not lying. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:58.080 Now now you're lying, you're telling a lie. I'm not 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.560 talking about Magic Johnson and you know good and guy 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:07.679 didn't want too Magic Johnson. Somebody names name name somebody 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:12.560 else than Steph Curry and Magic Johnson, Oscar Robinson. Okay, 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.159 I'm fine with that. Cool. Now keep going, mob Couzy, 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.080 they're the same guy. What's goal? Do you want to win? 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:22.719 Do you want to win? Or do you want stats? 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.640 That's the question. I'll give you Couzy even though he's 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.680 not on my list. But I got three, you got four? 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:31.240 Go ahead, keep going, Zeke, and I want to say 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.960 Isaiah Thomas is a far better point guard than No 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.880 he is not. No, he is not. Do you want 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.120 to win or do you want stats? With the greatest 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.560 defensive player to ever play the game of basketball? True, 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:46.240 the only time that that Russell was ever any good, 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:48.200 was like one of the most loaded rosters of his 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:52.920 error with Harden us at six, with third, third or 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:56.919 fourth behind behind. That's the same thing you can say 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:01.240 about Isaiah Thomas. What not that Thomas couldn't win without 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:06.320 without Dennis Rodman. What are you saying? You're talking about 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:11.080 the Katie argument for Russ. Russ couldn't win with Katie 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.440 and Harden and everybody else on the right was a 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.879 loaded roster. He couldn't win with that already had the 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:21.800 worst series at all of them in whatever get filed 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:25.320 by Lebron James at the end, they were loaded for 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.200 several years. They were loaded for several years, and he 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:33.720 got nothing accomplished. So let's not like I don't like 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:35.800 that phrase saying he got nothing to accomplished when Chris 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:37.960 Paul only been the one finals in his entire career 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:39.960 and never win the m v P. But Christ Paul's 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:46.840 not great all time? I agree with guards greater than 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:50.600 Russell Westbrook. Okay, you got so, I'll give you z 0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:54.800 that's four for me. Keep going, Chris Paul is it's 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:58.600 about ten guys better Russell west Lying, Jon Stockton is 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:00.719 better than Russell Westbrook. He was the first team All 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.680 NBA are all all in all defense. He went to 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:10.160 two finals. He's a he's gonna win with him nothing. 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.119 Gary Payton, he went to two finals. That's more than 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.800 Westbrook ever did. Hold up, hold up, hold up, ja 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:24.760 Z Kidd, Steve mash Yes, okay, j Z Kid, he's 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:28.639 about team gon Okay, you gott you gotta look at 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:37.840 regardless of Russell, regardless when you say that, right, because 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.560 you're looking at the one first point guard play the 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:45.880 game basketball. Ever, here's for sure a top twenty point 0:23:45.880 --> 0:23:48.120 guard of all time. And it's been hundreds of point 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:51.800 guards in this league. He's for sure in the top 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:55.520 top five. No, he's not. I wouldn't go that point. 0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:56.640 But if you know what, if you want to get 0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:58.280 to hold me that much credit, cool, I ain't gonna 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.479 fight you. The point I'm saving he is tame. How 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:07.159 much do you listen? It takes Lebron James playing with 0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:11.359 Lebron James going to be a parody. You turned him 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:15.280 into a parody. I'm not mad at that. So then 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.400 can we actually get to the point of where can 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.359 we actually get to the point of where the Lakers 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:24.440 are and why they are there. It's the nucleus. You 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:28.919 have to alter the nucleus. Can I ask you a question? 0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:31.960 And I'm gonna ask this to Peter actually because Peter 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:36.840 you follow basketball, right, Not really, but I'm familiar enough. Well, basically, 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:39.800 once Frank Vogel got fired, they were all doing their 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.720 exit conferences and stuff, and Russ basically was like, when 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.600 I first got signed to the Lakers, Basically, I think 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:49.040 he said, he brought like um, like Frank Vogel, like 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:51.400 a bottle of like wine or something like that. It's 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.520 like kind of like a you know, like you know 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:55.800 I'm on the team now, It's like a gift, and 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.000 gave it to him. And basically he said, like ever 0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.639 since like the first day, in the first interaction he 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:05.200 had with Frank Vogel, Frank never liked him, so even offensively. 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:09.280 It wasn't necessarily it was Lebron that basically Frank never 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.160 wanted to like put him in the spots he wanted 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.760 to be in. So you can go to the corner. No, 0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:17.680 you don't do what I'm saying, So you don't hold 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:19.520 So this is what I'm saying. So we come out 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.040