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Speaker 1: What's up? Everyone? Welcome into another episode of the Two

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Speaker 1: Minute Drill podcast, presented by Nerd walat Play Smart Finance Harder.

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Speaker 1: I'm JJ Sankabit's joined today by my friend Casey Valier.

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Speaker 1: Case we're talking to Colts at Giants in week seventeen

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Speaker 1: and without further ado. The news of Friday is actually

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Speaker 1: that there is no news right regarding Anthony Richardson, who

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Speaker 1: did not practice at all this week as he's dealing

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Speaker 1: with back and foot injuries. However, the Colts on Friday

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Speaker 1: did not rule out Richardson for Sunday's game. Case Shane

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Speaker 1: Stiken said Anthony Richardson could play even though he is

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Speaker 1: not practiced this week. It sounds like the next forty

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Speaker 1: eight hours are going to be big for determining if

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Speaker 1: Richardson is ready to go and able to play against

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Speaker 1: the Giants on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to me because I think you could

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Speaker 2: tell me if you've got the similar vibe. What I

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Speaker 2: got from what Shane said today was we are being,

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Speaker 2: you know, cautious about his injury. It's not that the

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Speaker 2: injury is making it so that he cannot participate. It

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Speaker 2: is kind of you know, playing more on the making

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Speaker 2: sure that he is good to go instead of rushing

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Speaker 2: him out there. So I'll be very anxious to see what,

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Speaker 2: you know, what Saturday looks like, because we're I think

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Speaker 2: we're going to have a good idea, you know, twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours from now, right, it's going to look.

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Speaker 1: Like that's usually when in case the Colts, if they

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Speaker 1: do have an update to the injury report, it will

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Speaker 1: come out Saturday, probably around one o'clock or so, between

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Speaker 1: noon and one. So that's a good point to keep

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Speaker 1: an eye out from that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, ultimately, you know, Joe Flacco is

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Speaker 2: a veteran quarterback, so if you have to go that route,

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Speaker 2: you know, Joe Flacco has been in these situations. He's

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Speaker 2: played inside MetLife Stadium numerous times. He was a quarterback

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Speaker 2: for the Jets back in the day. So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: and all the weather and all of that that's going

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Speaker 2: be very similar to actually what they practiced in today

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Speaker 2: here in Indianapolis. Kind of a rainy, mid forties day.

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Speaker 2: So all of that will we'll have to you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of see with the next forty eight hours look like.

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Speaker 2: But I think it is a good sign that he

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Speaker 2: didn't rule anybody out.

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Speaker 1: Today right that I would agree with that. So here's

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Speaker 1: what Shane Stiken said about Anthony Richardson today. He said,

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Speaker 1: he's quote really sore coming off of the game last

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Speaker 1: weekend against the Titans. He ran at nine times in

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Speaker 1: that game. He gained seventy yards. You know, he only

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Speaker 1: threw eleven passes. He scrambled a couple of times in there.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't a specific moment, Shane said, where Anthony got hurt.

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Speaker 1: It was just he kind of came in he was

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Speaker 1: really sore. Right now. I want to I do want

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Speaker 1: to kind of dispel this for all for our listeners,

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Speaker 1: is that this is the cults are saying, Anthony, you're

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Speaker 1: not practicing today. This is not Anthony Richardson saying I'm

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Speaker 1: too sort of practice. This is the team saying it

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Speaker 1: is not in your best interest or the best interest

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Speaker 1: of our team for you to practice today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I want to dispel this because I've seen some chatter

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Speaker 1: on social media that Anthony's the one who's kinda that

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Speaker 1: that's not the case on this at all. And I

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Speaker 1: will hand up say if Anthony Richardson could play, he will,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's why he's not ruled out today. Correct.

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Speaker 1: He and the Colts still believe there is a chance

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Speaker 2: And I thought we we kind of got that when

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Speaker 2: I'm glad that you brought that up, because I think

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Speaker 2: it definitely is more on the Colts end being hey,

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Speaker 2: let's make sure that everything is good because sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 2: we said this, you know a while back about Michael Pittman. Luckily,

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Speaker 2: nothing has you know, transpired in the back with Pittman.

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Speaker 2: But it's like he's going to continue to play because

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Speaker 2: I would say Anthony falls into the similar mold, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: not at all saying, hey, I just want to take

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Speaker 1: Especially in the game that matters like that that probably

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Speaker 1: So all right, if Anthony Richardson cannot play, though, it

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Speaker 1: will be Joe Flacco case. You and I just had

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Speaker 1: in these moments, but you know, he talked about kind

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Speaker 1: how during most of his career it's been hey, you're

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Speaker 1: So I thought, you know, his approach is good, his

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Speaker 1: who they.

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Speaker 2: Could be in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Legit that that could be a Super Bowl preview, that

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Speaker 1: could absolutely the New York Giants are in line to

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Speaker 1: get the number one overall. Correct this is a different

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Speaker 1: So look, I think he's a guy who if you

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Speaker 1: you should win. Like, let's be honest, correct, especially if

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Speaker 1: I like that Flacco would be the guy in this game.

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Speaker 2: And that's we all know. That's why you bring him

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Speaker 2: in here, right, this is this is the situation.

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Speaker 1: You didn't bring him in to bench Anthony Richardson and

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Speaker 1: have him start against two of the best teams in

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. And that's that's so true, because this is

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Speaker 2: it has been just a carousel, revolving door, whatever you

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter with Joe Flacco. It still matters. It

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Speaker 1: Like quarterback record is usually kind of this like a

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Speaker 1: comes to a starter. For me, when it's a backup quarterback,

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Speaker 1: so important to what Joe Flacco can bring you. Again,

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Speaker 1: the games that Joe Flacco started for the Colts or

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Speaker 1: And then the Titans game was one of those where okay,

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Speaker 1: made that one play to Pittman, that's all that they needed.

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Speaker 1: They came out with win that That game against Tennessee

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Speaker 1: how it looks? Exactly if you're playing for something in

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Speaker 1: week eighteen, because Joe Flacco got you there, that's all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's and that's all you're looking for. I

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Speaker 2: mean that that is it. If you were to talk

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco is going to start on Sunday and you're

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Speaker 2: gonna win by six. He's gonna go perfect, right because

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Speaker 1: Yep a couple other injury updates here case Alec Pierce

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Speaker 2: And there's a part of me that says, for let's

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Speaker 2: He can do all that stuff, and he's just a

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Speaker 1: fifty three for him to play, but maybe a chance

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Speaker 1: So, like, the point is, the Giants still have really

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Speaker 2: Both of those teams to lose. I'm really looking forward to,

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Speaker 2: you know what Week eighteen would mean at home against

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Speaker 1: Give me a game that matters in Week eighteen. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: still again, we will know a lot more over the

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Speaker 1: next twenty four to forty eight hours about several things,

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Speaker 1: yes involving the Colts. Thanks for listening to this episode

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Speaker 1: of the Two Minute Drill podcast presented by Nerd Wallet

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Speaker 1: here on the Colts Audio Network four Casey Valley, IM

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Speaker 1: JJ Stankobittz talk to you next week before the Colts

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Speaker 1: regular season finale against the jacksonvill Jaguars. So long,