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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans. Welcome to the show, and a big weekend

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Speaker 1: awaits Texans at Baltimore. Mark vandermar and John Harris with you.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. John McClain, the General, the Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: joins us tonight as he does on most Thursday nights

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Speaker 1: on your schedule. In general, let's start right here. This

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Speaker 1: is a chance to reignite the entire campaign. If they

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Speaker 1: beat Baltimore on Sunday? Can they do it? Do you

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Speaker 1: expect any Lamar Jackson out of a phone booth situation

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Speaker 1: to crop up here? He's missed the first couple of

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Speaker 1: days of practice this week. What are you thinking, good evening.

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Speaker 2: I do not expect Lamar Jackson to play. The reports

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Speaker 2: by the people cover the team say he could miss

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Speaker 2: a few weeks. And you guys know, if a guy

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Speaker 2: goes out of a game with a hamstring injury, he

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Speaker 2: never comes back the next game, even if he is superman,

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Speaker 2: because you can't take a chance on it not being

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent because then you can aggravate it. Megan

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Speaker 2: war and he's out for a longer period of time.

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Speaker 2: Cooper Rush, their first year backup, knows the Texans very

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Speaker 2: well from playing against them. With the Cowboys. He had

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Speaker 2: a good game statistically last year, but the Texans creamed

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys in primetime. I think it was thirty four

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Speaker 2: to ten, something like that. And so if the Texans

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Speaker 2: are going to win in Baltimore, this would be the

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Speaker 2: time to do it. And yes, it would jump start

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Speaker 2: their season because then they have the bye week and

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Speaker 2: then they got the Seattle game, then the Niners come in.

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Speaker 2: So it is a chance for this team to get

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Speaker 2: going the way Demiko Ryans and all the players believe

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Speaker 2: they should be going.

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Speaker 3: General, would you take out of the win against the

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Speaker 3: Titans offensively? Was there anything that stood out to you

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Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the ball? I know they

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Speaker 3: scored three times in the fourth quarter, finally got that

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Speaker 3: in the end zone, which is kind of nice. They

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Speaker 3: got three touchdowns for the first time at home since

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Speaker 3: the Jack Wars Week four of twenty twenty four. Would

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Speaker 3: you take out of the game offensively in the winn

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Speaker 3: against the Titans.

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Speaker 2: Well, they had one good quarter fourth quarter and they

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Speaker 2: moved the ball on the ground. Woody Marks was a revelation.

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Speaker 2: You know. He sent fantasy players scurrying to check out

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Speaker 2: his bio and take him in drafts this week, and

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Speaker 2: you know many have done that, and I thought he

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Speaker 2: looked really good, especially on the touchdown run in which

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Speaker 2: he was making people miss with big time moves and

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Speaker 2: dondo field start over Nick Chubb. I'm guessing he won't

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Speaker 2: and then it's just like will Ju Scruggs play at

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Speaker 2: left guard. He got more snaps than Lake and Dominson,

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Speaker 2: who started every game for like his last five years.

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Speaker 2: But I thought CJ. Stroud, who's the most important player

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Speaker 2: on this team, the fact that he did he didn't throw

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Speaker 2: an interception at a one twenty five rating, had multiple

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Speaker 2: touchdown passes for the first time in seven or eight

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Speaker 2: games counting the playoffs, and I thought it was a

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Speaker 2: good game by him. He looked more comfortable and it

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Speaker 2: was amazing because we all know Jeffrey Simmons is a

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Speaker 2: great defensive tackle. He had that one play in which

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Speaker 2: Ingram and Andrews got their signals crossed and he had

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Speaker 2: stradleg he lined up in the backfield, but they did

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Speaker 2: a great job against him after that two sacks only

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Speaker 2: nine yards. And according to Next Gen Stats, every game

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Speaker 2: the pressures had been for pressure percentage has gone down,

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Speaker 2: and at that because of that Stroud's confidence should go up.

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Speaker 2: So the way he looked in a fourth quarter to me,

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Speaker 2: was the best thing about that offensive game.

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Speaker 1: General, the Texans are number one in defense in the

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Speaker 1: league in points per game allowed by four points over

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Speaker 1: the second place team. Now, I know the shutout helps,

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Speaker 1: but the teams lost to are all three and one each,

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Speaker 1: you tell me. And it was great to see Derek

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Speaker 1: Stingley Junior and Will Anderson Junior back at practice today.

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Speaker 1: Will missed yesterday because of res sting Hopefully he can

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Speaker 1: play just fine on Sunday. But your thoughts on this defense?

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Speaker 1: Could this be the best defense the Texans have ever

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Speaker 2: I believe it can. Whether it is or not, you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll have to wait to see. Because that first win

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Speaker 2: and Wade Phillips said in twenty eleven in which they

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Speaker 2: went from mike thirtieth to second and won their first

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Speaker 2: division title and playoff game watch rookie year, that was

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Speaker 2: a pretty good defense. But this one, it's also number

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Speaker 2: one and points allowed for play and they're not getting

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Speaker 2: a lot of turnovers like last year, and they're not

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Speaker 2: getting a lot of sacks. But they're getting it at

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Speaker 2: the right time. Now, if Baltimore is going to win

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Speaker 2: this game, it's going to be because of Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 2: And the Texans know Derrick Henry very well. I saw

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Speaker 2: an unbelievable stat this morning. Dan Orrovsky had this in

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Speaker 2: an online video because he said ESPN's stat people looked

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Speaker 2: it up that the Ravens, and this is hard to fathom,

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Speaker 2: have run the ball on first to second down fewer

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Speaker 2: than any team in the league. Wow. But when they

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Speaker 2: have run it, their second in the league in their

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Speaker 2: done a really bad job offensive play calling. And you know,

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the Texans, they're going to give

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Speaker 2: that ball to Derrick Henry. But the Texans play good

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Speaker 2: run defense, and their first order of business is going

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Speaker 2: to be to contain Henry. Now, that's what it's been

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Speaker 2: in the past. Usually Henry's gotten the best of them,

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Speaker 2: but there have been games of which the Texans have

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Speaker 2: corralled Derrick Henry. And they're going to have to do

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Speaker 2: it Sunday, and I think if they do, they'll be

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Speaker 3: General, it looks as if and it appears as if

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Speaker 3: Rokwan Smith is out of this game. There's a report

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Speaker 4: Now we've not gotten that I know.

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Speaker 3: Of a rap sheet update on Kyle Hamilton other than

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Speaker 3: the fact that on Thursday he went from being Wednesday

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Speaker 3: a limited participant to a DNP. What happens to that

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Speaker 3: Ravens defense if they are without Rokwan Smith, Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 3: and nom Dae Matabik has already been on ir What

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Speaker 3: does that defense for the Ravens turn into if they're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too bad about Mattabek. The Aggie's out for

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Speaker 2: the season with a neck injury. They have Zach Gore

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Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator today. Okay, who gets the community the

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Speaker 2: green dot?

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: If you've got Hamilton out and you've got Rokwan out

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Speaker 2: and I don't know what he's said because I didn't

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Speaker 2: listen to it. I just saw what it said. But

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Speaker 2: those would be like if you think taking out Mattibka,

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Speaker 2: one of the defensive backs that's what they're missing, and think, well,

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Speaker 2: how difficult that would be for the Texans. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know if it means they'll be able to run

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Speaker 2: on them pass on them. But you know, they have

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Speaker 2: a great coaching and they have great game plans, and

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Speaker 2: they've scored a lot of points because of Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: They will come come into that game at M and

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Speaker 2: T Banks Stadium with a good plan playing hard. Zach Orr,

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Speaker 2: they ask him, why have you not what do you

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Speaker 2: got to do to forrest Moore turnovers? He said, hit harder.

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Speaker 2: That's what they're emphasizing on defense. Doesn't matter who's playing,

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Speaker 2: hit harder. And I think this is going to be

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Speaker 2: a physical game, and I think it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a close game, and I think it'll come down to

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Speaker 2: the kickers.

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel about the Ravens the way I

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Speaker 1: do about the Colts, or the way I did in

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Speaker 1: the earlier days of the Houston Texans pre twenty ten,

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Speaker 1: because they are so hard to beat. You've only beaten

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Speaker 1: them twice, You've never beaten them there. It's been a

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Speaker 1: lot of meetings, right It's what fifteen meetings with the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. It's going to be very tough to win there. General,

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Speaker 1: I want to go here. Special teams going crazy around

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Speaker 1: the league. It's a special team's palooza every weekend, as

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Speaker 1: far as block kicks, returns, all of it. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of it? And I visited with Frank Ross

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Speaker 1: with Johnny and I said, is this a golden era

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Speaker 1: like it is. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a joke, of course, But the joke is

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Speaker 2: if they can't where they keep blocking kicks and stuff,

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Speaker 2: people say, okay, like the tush push, we need to

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Speaker 2: ally it because they can't stop it. And when you

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Speaker 2: get stop stuff like the tush push, I've never been

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Speaker 2: against outlawing it. I think you should stop it. And

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Speaker 2: then we find out officials are missing the off sides

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Speaker 2: special teams coaching Frank Ross is as good as there

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Speaker 2: see it. Texans have gotten a lot of big plays

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Speaker 2: the special teams are. They've got a really good kicker

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Speaker 2: and Jamie Fairbarn. They've got a good punter, Tommy Townsend.

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Speaker 2: You know, they let the greatest snapper in the NFL

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Speaker 2: history go and it hasn't showed in their performance so far.

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Speaker 2: And so I think this if they're gonna win in

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Speaker 2: Baltimore for the first time, haven't beaten Baltimore since Gary

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Speaker 2: Kubiak was the offensive coordinator in twenty fourteen. And I

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Speaker 2: believe they're er to five against Lamar Jackson. Have been

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Speaker 2: gonna do it, special teams will have to play a

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Speaker 2: big role. And I think there's if you go into

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Speaker 2: the Texan's going to have a big special teams player too,

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Speaker 2: And most of the time you'd say those odds are

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Speaker 2: good because they got a great coach and Frank Ross

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Speaker 2: and they and every year players come and go, but

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Speaker 2: Frank Ross, who has had turnover on special teams every year,

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Speaker 2: they still make the kind of big plays you need

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Speaker 3: After last week the Texans beat the Titans twenty six

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Speaker 3: to nothing. There was a little bit of discussion we

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Speaker 3: talked about this last week about Brian Callahan's future there

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Speaker 3: with the Titans. Nothing happened. He's still the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Do you foresee something happening in the next few weeks?

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Speaker 3: If the Titans have a forty one to two kind

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Speaker 3: of output, it just looks bad. How long do you

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Speaker 3: think Brian Callahan remains a Titans head coach?

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Speaker 2: I think it's on a week to week basis. And

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Speaker 2: you know, Amy Adams Trunk, the owner getting beat twenty

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Speaker 2: six to oh getting shut out for the first time

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Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen, knowing that the Texans said their first

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Speaker 2: shutout since two and ten, just drove for crazy. And

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Speaker 2: you know, Hannah McNair loved it. To McNair family loved it,

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Speaker 2: and the Texans fans loved it because that is a

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Speaker 2: team they want to beat and they humiliated them with

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Speaker 2: a shutout. And so I think Callahan could be fired

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Speaker 2: any week. Maybe the reason they didn't do it this

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Speaker 2: week is because everybody said they were still going to

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Speaker 2: do it, and he's a dead man walking as they

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Speaker 2: had coach, and everybody knows it.

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Speaker 1: General you buying into the Jags three and one. They

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Speaker 1: just beat the forty nine ers. They're number one in

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Speaker 1: the league in turnover margin, So good for them. Can

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Speaker 1: it last? They have the Chiefs on Monday Night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so. I think the Chiefs are

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Speaker 2: going to bring them back to reality. The Texans should

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Speaker 4: One of the teams that Jaguars beat is won last week.

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Speaker 3: That was the San Francisco forty nine Ers in a

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Speaker 3: Night Football General, Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 4: Who you got Niners or Rams?

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Speaker 2: Tell the Rams ought to win this game? Handle a

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers are not very good. They got a

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's a long season. We say all

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Speaker 2: But if he throws those interceptions like he did, they're

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Speaker 4: General.

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Speaker 3: After the Michael Parsons trade, everybody circled that Week four

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Speaker 4: Yet Parsons was fantastic. What do you think? What do

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Speaker 2: I think Jerry's feeling we put up forty points. Dak

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Speaker 2: I remember when they announced at the league meeting in

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Speaker 2: mean if you got an extra five minutes overtime. It's

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Speaker 2: need to go back. What needs to happen to get

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. I can't imagine anybody who doesn't want them

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Speaker 2: to go back to fifteen because everybody hates ties.

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Speaker 1: How about this, You play the fifteen you're still tied, right,

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Speaker 2: Though I'm for any of that. I think that'd be great.

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Speaker 2: They may say, well, it's too much like college. Nobody

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Speaker 1: I like that. General, Micah Parsons, just and both of

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Speaker 1: you really straighten me out on this. How many Defensive

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Speaker 2: Zero?

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Speaker 4: Zero? Right?

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Speaker 1: Do we make not we? Media? The hot take shows, whoever,

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Speaker 1: He's a great player, I get it, but this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: They treat it like he's Reggie White, like he's Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I know the Cowboys mistreated or mishandled the situation, but

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Speaker 1: This is like a bickering argument between two bitter members

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Miles Garrett, I mean, see what Miles Garrett's best

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Speaker 2: a great player, we all know that, but Miles Garrett

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Speaker 2: When you're looking at the NFL, only the quarterback is

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Speaker 2: the only one player who's guaranteed that you can win

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Speaker 2: more games. If you make a deal for a guy

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Speaker 3: Do?

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Speaker 2: You got to be so careful before you give a

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Speaker 1: Johnny, you want to comment on Parsons?

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Speaker 4: Are you good? Parsons? Is damn good? Y'all?

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Speaker 1: This guy can That wasn't the question. That wasn't the question.

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Speaker 1: Have they get too big a deal out of this?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, it's the Cowboys and it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, nobody care. Josh Hans Allen gets traded to Arizona.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a one. There'll be a one segment block

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Speaker 3: It's Jerry Jones. You guys all know it's Jerry. This

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Speaker 3: It's like a balloon, like balloon, violleball. We should play

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Speaker 4: And it was just like, are it just tep it?

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Speaker 1: Just?

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Speaker 3: The game can go on forever? And that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: General, I got another one for you, Travis Hunter. I

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Speaker 2: Truthfully, I didn't even realize he was on the field.

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Speaker 2: He made one play. He needs to focus on one

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Speaker 3: General Joe Flacco ousted as the starting quarterback in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do with all the shouty shows, do pass

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't Shador Sanders become the starter in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing to me how many people in media think

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Speaker 2: why is that? And that was somebody I can't remember

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Speaker 2: You know, he did a pantomime yesterday where he mouthed

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Speaker 2: about Shadar Sanders. And at some point in his career

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Speaker 2: he'll get a chance to play. And for all of

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, first of all, why would they do that.

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Speaker 2: And the Cleveland Browns no more about him than anybody else.

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Speaker 2: And I'd be glad when he finally gets to play,

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Speaker 2: and then we can praise him or say, yep, the

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Speaker 1: Once the third round passed and he wasn't picked, and

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Speaker 1: Gabriel went well, he didn't know where he was going

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Speaker 1: to call it a tremendous career, but in terms of

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Speaker 1: longevity it is. I mean, he's still in the freaking

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Speaker 1: league and he got drafted in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: He's getting what he deserves. I'll just say it that way,

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Speaker 3: getting what he deserves. They tried to handle that whole

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Speaker 3: thing and manipulate the whole thing, and did a third

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Speaker 3: string quarterback in Cleveland. Quit acting like a bad teammate

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Speaker 3: and do what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: I'm be people tired of him.

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Speaker 2: People didn't. If you pay close attention to Rex Ryan,

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Speaker 2: somebody was telling him what's going on mind the scenes,

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Speaker 2: because he said, we're on the front row, in other words,

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Speaker 2: in the quarterback meeting room, he's sitting in the back

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Speaker 2: and I don't uh. They shouldn't be telling people like

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Speaker 2: that to use it against him, but it is just amazing.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll be in Cleveland when he gets

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Speaker 2: to start. They're playing is next year. They got two

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Speaker 2: ones to try to get a franchise quarterback and Blacko

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Speaker 2: being benched. Placo hadn't played well since. Last time he

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Speaker 2: played well was when he played the Texans at the

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Speaker 2: end of the twenty three season and they won before

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Speaker 2: the Texans embarrassed them in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: General, I was having a debate with some friends and

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Speaker 1: you can settle it so you get to go on

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Speaker 1: the way back machine old school quarterback debate, Class of

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Speaker 1: eighty three. You're starting up a franchise and you get

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Speaker 1: to pick Elway, Marino or Kelly.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's not a fun one. You gotta go the

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Speaker 3: other way. You gotta go with. You gotta pick black Lie,

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Speaker 3: Ken O'Brien.

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Speaker 4: Ton.

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Speaker 1: I'll take well, I think I'll take Ken.

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Speaker 2: O'Brien went to Super Bowl, so take Tony.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Steve Groget started a lot of games that year. Now,

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Speaker 1: he said to the playoffs, you just scratched off the gas, General,

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Speaker 1: don't do this to me. Don't do this to me.

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Speaker 2: I would take John Elway over Marino and Kelly because

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Speaker 2: he won two Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah he did. I think what's more impressive about

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Speaker 1: Elway is getting to those three that he lost because

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Speaker 1: he didn't have as much help, Like yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: Marinos so good man. The numbers still kind of hold

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Speaker 1: up over time, whereas Elway and Jim Kelly the numbers

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Speaker 1: don't hold up as much.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine Elway was never about big numbers throwing

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Speaker 2: the ball?

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine Elway in an r PO system works,

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Speaker 3: you know, with some zone read where he could use

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Speaker 3: his legs.

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Speaker 1: You know, he can run. He could run.

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Speaker 2: If Terrell Davis had been playing for Marina with Marina,

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't have been throwing the ball as much as

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Speaker 2: he did.

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Speaker 1: All right, General, Since we last got together, the Astros

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Speaker 1: waved goodbye to twenty twenty five and give us a comment.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think they're headed? What's going to happen

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Speaker 1: with this franchise?

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Speaker 2: I think they've had I think Christian Walker. They're leading

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Speaker 2: on run hit or an RBI guy who struck out

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy seven times will be traded, so

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Speaker 2: they move each parade's first base. If they've never lost

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Speaker 2: Josh Hater their closer, they'd been in the playoffs. They

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Speaker 2: were two and eleven in one run games after he

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Speaker 2: went down in August. I think there will be changes,

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Speaker 2: maybe in the hitting, maybe in the medical and rehab,

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Speaker 2: but Jim Crane will not take this season in stride

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Speaker 2: and go. Oh. It was just about the injuries.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, general, thanks so much for joining us as always, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You guys very much for having me as always.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, Who's Better? We got a lot of good

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Speaker 1: ones with quarterbacks, with the ravens, with stadiums, bunch of

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Speaker 1: stuff coming up, some college football. Johnny's gonna wagh and

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Speaker 1: it's all happening here on Texans Radio Back and studio

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Speaker 1: here the Hundai Texans Radio Studio at NRG Stadium for

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you

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Speaker 1: team getting ready to face Baltimore on Sunday on the road.

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Speaker 1: Noon kickoff live right here, nine am. Texans Countdown presented

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Speaker 1: by Medelo Especial. Johnny You ready for Who's Better?

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Who's Better? Let's go number one here more important to

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Speaker 1: his team? Who's better for their team? Josh Allen or

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Who's more important to his team?

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Speaker 4: That is? Holy smokes, Hey, that's tough.

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Speaker 1: Huh tough? Because Buffalo actually made the playoffs without Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen with Tyrod Taylor in the Sean McDermott era that

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Speaker 1: direct all right, so he's got that program. But of

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Speaker 1: course John Harbaugh with Joe flackobat all those years of

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Speaker 1: success of offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 3: But so is McDermott really The Ravens took stew Puntley

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Speaker 3: into the playoffs one year, Lamar was hurt every good

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Speaker 3: I don't remember what year though, twenty two games yep,

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Speaker 3: so twenty one, twenty two whatever.

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Speaker 1: That was good. Point.

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Speaker 3: So I still think that if Josh Allen is not

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Speaker 3: playing for the Bills, I think that team is six

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Speaker 3: and eleven.

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Speaker 1: That bad for the Bills.

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Speaker 4: That bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they figure it out. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: different long term versus short term.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, okay, I mean seven and ten.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I think if the now, you think.

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Speaker 1: They don't win the AFC East without Josh Allen.

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Speaker 4: Who wins it?

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Speaker 1: The two and two pounds.

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Speaker 4: That's that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: The one and three Dolphins, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think they probably would win it, maybe with eight

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Speaker 3: to nine, maybe.

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Speaker 4: But it would I would love to play that division,

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Speaker 4: not take show.

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Speaker 3: But I think with Lamar, the Ravens still stay in it.

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Speaker 4: They still stay in that mix.

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Speaker 3: I think the Ravens would probably not be better than

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Speaker 3: nine to eight, But if everybody were healthy defensively, that's

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Speaker 3: still a really tough defense to.

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Speaker 1: Have to go against.

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Speaker 3: I think, and I've said this all year now, if

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Speaker 3: the Bills have been playing with Ed Oliver, and that's

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Speaker 3: a big one for them. However, I just don't know

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Speaker 3: that the Bills are constructed defensively at the level the

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Speaker 3: Ravens are. So I think the defense for the Ravens

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Speaker 3: could carry them a little bit without Lamar, plus Henry

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Speaker 3: and Hill and all the guys were gonna see Sunday

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Speaker 3: that can go catch a football. I don't know that

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Speaker 3: the Bills matched that exactly. But Bills have a really

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Speaker 3: good offensive line. Whoever is that quarterback can turn around

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Speaker 3: handed James Cook, any of those running backs throw it

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Speaker 3: a little bit to those tight ends. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: that this is a slam dunk. It is Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: no questions asked. It's like fifty one forty nine.

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Speaker 4: It would be that close.

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Speaker 3: But I just would give you at the edge in

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Speaker 3: that question to Without Josh, the Bills would struggle more

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Speaker 3: than the Ravens would without Lamarck boy.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are taking a lot of heat in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: one and three start Jackson healthy or not. They don't

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Speaker 1: like losing to these big name teams Detroit, Buffalo, and

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. They put up a lot of points, especially

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Speaker 1: against Buffalo, yep, and Detroit they scored thirty. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they put up a lot of points against Cleveland. We

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Speaker 1: talked about that last night. A lot of that was

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Speaker 1: turnover driven. But so what. That's a team thing. It

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Speaker 1: is a rough start for them, and we hope to

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Speaker 1: make it rougher on Sunday at noon. All right, who's better?

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Speaker 1: Let's continue Who's better? As far as the best back

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Speaker 1: you've ever seen live, not necessarily on the sideline, but

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Speaker 1: you had to be at least in the stands watching

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Speaker 1: I assume professional football. But you can tell me best

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Speaker 1: back you've ever seen live, Derrick Henry or anyone else.

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Speaker 1: You can pick anyone else, Or is it Derrick Henry

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Speaker 1: as the best back you've seen live in your history.

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry is the running back I was always scared of.

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Speaker 4: Always always scared. Wait was I have been? I always

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Speaker 4: have this, I tell you, I always have been scared

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Speaker 4: of Derek Henry.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's well, he's slowing up, he's fumbling a little bit,

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Speaker 3: until Derek Henry says he's done and he's hanging up

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Speaker 3: the cleats. I will worry about Derek Henry any time that.

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Speaker 4: He is on a field.

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Speaker 3: When I think about running backs that I've seen in person,

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Speaker 3: but guys I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I never saw Marshall Falk, I never saw.

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Speaker 3: Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, those guys would would be in

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Speaker 3: the mix.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know that I.

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Speaker 3: Saw Earl in a you know, up close. I always

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Speaker 3: saw my TV, but I don't know if I ever

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Speaker 3: saw him close. And I was always a big Earl

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Speaker 3: Campbell fan. I I think it's I think it's Henry. Look,

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Speaker 3: Adrian Peterson was tremendousness prime. I saw Adrian Peterson at

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Speaker 3: the end of it, and you saw.

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Speaker 1: Twenty two. He was good.

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Speaker 4: He was really good. Twenty twenty two Saquon was really good.

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Speaker 3: However, I want to make sure I say this because

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Speaker 3: I don't want to disrespect Saquon, because I'm a big

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Speaker 3: Saquon fan.

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Speaker 4: Saquon is dangerous, There's no question about it.

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Speaker 3: But when twenty two stands at backfield, I said, there, Oh,

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Speaker 3: what did you just say?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we got.

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Speaker 4: Him down up to two yards.

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Speaker 3: And I think some of that has to do with

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Speaker 3: the PTSD of the two hundred yard games he had

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Speaker 3: against us, where he just went, you know, apoplectic. You know,

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Speaker 3: it started in twenty seventeen. People forget that because it

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Speaker 3: really clicked for him that night against the Jaguars in

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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 4: I think it was where he went ninety nine yards

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Speaker 4: against them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he.

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Speaker 3: Was an eleague prior to that, and the Texans shut

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Speaker 3: him down for the most part, and we went and

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Speaker 3: played them in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget.

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Speaker 3: It was a third and one and they ran that

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Speaker 3: counterflip play where you kind of get all action to

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Speaker 3: the right and then Henry goes to the left and

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Speaker 3: they flipped it kind of behind him to him and

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Speaker 3: he went seventy five yards to the house and I

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Speaker 3: just remember that it is a fast moving dude, and

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Speaker 3: then from that point on just seeing him up close

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Speaker 3: and how dangerous.

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Speaker 4: Even I remember the.

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Speaker 3: Game in twenty twenty, if they got twenty twenty or

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, we were playing him here and he

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Speaker 3: burst through the line. I'm like, he's taking that to

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Speaker 3: the house, and Zach Cunningham somehow just tapped the ball

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Speaker 3: and it came out weird.

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Speaker 4: It was like, holy cow, he was taking that to

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Speaker 4: the house.

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Speaker 3: Every single time Henry has the ball in his hands,

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Speaker 3: I just told my breath.

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Speaker 4: So I think, even though it's.

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Speaker 3: Probably there are probably somebody, I'm forgetting him out. I

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Speaker 3: just he scared the hell out of me every time

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Speaker 3: he touches it.

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Speaker 4: He scares the hell at me. Every time he touched it.

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Speaker 3: Even this, no matter who's playing where Lamar or Cooper

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Speaker 3: Rush or you're at that quarterback for that Mark, I

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Speaker 3: will worry because twenty two he still got it. He

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Speaker 3: is the He is the biggest freak I've ever seen.

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00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: And being from just outside Jacksonville, I had known about

658
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: him since he was in eighth grade and then you

659
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: would see him in games and you're like this is weird,

660
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: Like why is the varsity player playing against all the

661
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: jv like he was six.

662
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: 't four and two forty in high school.

663
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and as Nick Saban likes to say, there were

664
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: a lot of teams looking at him to play different position.

665
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: I saw him, who was gonna put him in front

666
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 4: of back?

667
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: Right?

668
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: It was a smart move. It was a smart move.

669
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: He's he's in credit. It was Derrick Henry to me.

670
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I mean when I think about the

671
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: past years of Texans history, I mean the Texans have

672
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: actually played against Enmitt Smith. Yeah, it was late in

673
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: his career. Fred Taylor not that late in his career.

674
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean he was really good.

675
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: It was good, right, Fred Vady George.

676
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: I mean the Texans played against all these guys in

677
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: the early years, right. Adrian Peterson saw him a few times.

678
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: But Derrick Henry is the most frightening back I've ever seen.

679
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: And by frightening, I mean I'm the play by play guy.

680
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: I need my team to make a stop and I'm

681
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: just terrified if Derrick Henry just cannot stop him. We've

682
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: had so many days where the Texans were seemingly helpless.

683
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: That's what made twenty twenty three so gratifying when you

684
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: held him to those historic lows up there down here,

685
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: it was tremendous to be able to get those wins.

686
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: Was like you finally got the bully on the ground

687
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: and gave him some noogies.

688
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

689
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: I'll give you one that a lot of people won't

690
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: think about. Okay, but you'll remember this. I was gonna

691
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: say the other gay, go ahead, there's one other guy.

692
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: I didn't see him live.

693
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: I remember seeing in college and I thought it was

694
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 3: one of the great college games of all time. And

695
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: I was actually listening on the way home to a

696
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 3: documentary about Saturday night lights in the SEC and as

697
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: a true freshman, Shawn Alexander went into a game and

698
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: ran for two ninety one and four touchdowns and it

699
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 3: was like, holy cow, two thousand and five Seattle, Shawn Alexander.

700
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was That was right. I think

701
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 4: I blocked that out.

702
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: That was an emotionally difficult evening. That was rubble year.

703
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to look that up to see

704
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: what the numbers were of that, because it was just terrible.

705
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: It was a terrible night.

706
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 4: And let me give you another one. Okay, give you

707
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 4: another one. That we've seen and and I don't.

708
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: I can't put him in front of Henry okay, but

709
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: for the game that he played against us, he will

710
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: always have my respect.

711
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey.

712
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: Now in nineteen he played them, Oh yeah, he was

713
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 3: with the pam amazing. He was unfreaking believable in that game.

714
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: He ended up like forty touches in that game. And

715
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: I'll never forget he has a run.

716
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: Was a runner at catch.

717
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: I can't remember what it was, but a play that

718
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: kind of ended the game where he wasn't supposed.

719
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 4: To I think it was a catch. He wasn't supposed

720
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: to catch.

721
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: The boy go caught the ball, got a first down,

722
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: and we're like, we're losing the freaking Panthers.

723
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, with Kyle Allen lose to the Panthers, we lost

724
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 5: to him. Christian mccaffy that he was terrifying. Ooh that

725
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: night you referenced. It was October sixteenth, two thousand and five.

726
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 5: Sean Alexander one hundred and forty one yards, only one

727
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 5: hundred and forty yards, but he had four touchdowns.

728
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: He had four touchdowns in that game, and the Seahawks

729
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: ran for I'm gonna pull it up here because it's

730
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of yard. It it just makes me

731
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: want to vomit and thinking about it. Let's see, right,

732
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: it was hundred three hundred and twenty yards surrendered on

733
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: the ground. That was rough. And the reason why I'm

734
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: bringing this up the question was the terrifying back. I'm

735
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna give you another one is terrifying. Darren Sprolls in

736
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: his own way is as terrifying as anybody because third down,

737
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: oh no, he's gonna get to me, and he's gonna

738
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: get it hisity for the Saints, for the Eagles, that

739
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: was traumatizing. All right, let's continue with the segment of

740
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: who's better because we're getting a little off track, but

741
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: it was fun. Who's better as far as tougher environment?

742
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: What's better Arrowhead Stadium or Baltimore? What's tougher, Johnny? And

743
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: I'll let you throw in another one if you want.

744
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: You can throw in Seattle or whatever you want. But

745
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: Arrowhead is ridiculously difficult.

746
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 4: We all know that.

747
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: But the Texans have won at Arrowhead Stadium several times, actually,

748
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: but is it several? They won in two thousand.

749
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 4: And four, one in two thousand and nineteen nineteen. That's two.

750
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: I don't think there was another time the Texans won

751
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: at Arrowhead. They've beaten the Chiefs many times, but not

752
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: always there anyway, haven't been there that many times or

753
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: weren't there that many times until this Mahomes era. But

754
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: Baltimore or Arrowhead never have won in Baltimore. You like

755
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: a stat, You a Statnah, give me a stat.

756
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna like this.

757
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 4: This is nineteen eighty that's what forty five years ago.

758
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Houston professional football teams have won in Baltimore?

759
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 4: How many times?

760
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

761
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 4: Is it zero? One?

762
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: One?

763
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: In the last year of the Houston Oiler, they beat

764
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: the Ravens when they were then.

765
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: In Baltimore twenty four to twenty one.

766
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 4: Mark, that's it since nineteen eighty.

767
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: Well, the cool they moved in eighty four and then

768
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 3: the Ravens moved in in ninety six.

769
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 4: So there's a gap.

770
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: There's a gap.

771
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 4: There's a gap. So you come of play it. They

772
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: won one time.

773
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 3: Houston professional football teams that won one time against Baltimore

774
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: professional football team.

775
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: We gotta start changing that.

776
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: I it's funny because M ANDT Bank really when you

777
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: walk in the stadium you're like, this is a cool stadium.

778
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 3: I love it, and but it doesn't feel intimidating when

779
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: you walk in. Then the fans get in there, and

780
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: it feels different. It feels way different when you walk in.

781
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 3: You just I don't know if it's just mental games

782
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: or whatever.

783
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 4: Air ahead.

784
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: You just know, okay, it's the Chief's like, oh this red.

785
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: It's just but we've gone era ahead and won before.

786
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Amity Bank, because we just have never

787
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: we never even played well other than the playoff game. Really,

788
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: the playoff game was probably the best we.

789
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: Ever played well. Both playoff game, the.

790
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: Twenty eleven playoff game, the twenty eleven playoff game. Yeah,

791
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: but you turned it over for tight, right, right, But

792
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 3: at least you were in that game and that defense

793
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: was keeping you around.

794
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you watched that game.

795
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: I remember watch that game thinking that Jakobe Jones doesn't

796
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: head about that punt, all right, peach Kobe, then maybe

797
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: the Texans get a little bit of lead. The defense

798
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: can hold it. But yeah, you didn't play well. You

799
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: didn't play clean. You didn't play clean.

800
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: If TJ sees Kevin Walter opened on the opening drive

801
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: and hits him for a touchdown. Bundy hit Andre Johnson

802
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: for a first down, So that was pretty good. Yeah, anyway,

803
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: I got another one for it, Baltimore. Okay, who's better

804
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: better chance to win in college football this weekend? Vanderbilt

805
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: otherwise known as vand at Alabama or Florida State hosting Miami.

806
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: Who's got a better chance to win? It's got to

807
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: be Florida State. I would think. What Florida State just

808
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: lost to Virginia last week Friday night lights Miami. Look,

809
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: they got a lot of firepower. I mean, you have

810
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: to be Florida State. But Vandy.

811
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 4: Hold on.

812
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: Now, that little dude playing quarterback for Vandy takes no

813
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: bleep off of anybody.

814
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 4: He thinks they should win that game at Alabama by

815
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: three touchdowns.

816
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: He honestly believes that. He's like we did last year.

817
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 3: He played game was too close last year. They're hot

818
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: and Vandy is Vandy is. I can't say what I

819
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: want to say. Vandy sneaky hot. Those skilled players, they've

820
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: got really really good last hours.

821
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: How are they doing this in the nil era van

822
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: He's got money.

823
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 4: New Mexico State.

824
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: It sounds like I'm talking about myself, Like Jimmy's got

825
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: money like Seinfeld. Hey, he's got money.

826
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 3: This actually isn't about that. At New Mexico State, Jerry

827
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: Kill was the head coach. Oh yeah, he had Diego

828
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: Pavia as his quarterback. He had Eli Stowers as his

829
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: tight end, and he had a couple other players. When

830
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: Jerry Kill went to Vanderbilt to be on staff with

831
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 3: Clark Lee, he got all those guys to come from

832
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 3: New Mexico State to go.

833
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 4: With him, mainly Pavia.

834
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: Now, Pavia has been fighting the courts because he went

835
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 3: to Junior collt for two years, so they gave.

836
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 4: Him an extra year. There was this whole thing that

837
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 4: came up last year.

838
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: So Pavia ends up going back to Vanderbilt for another

839
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 3: year and he's even better, and Vandy's good and fast.

840
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: So Alabama wins at Georgia, comes home game days on

841
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: campus and now here comes this dude like Johnny Manziel.

842
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: Johnny Manziel thought he could beat anybody. And oh, by

843
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: the way, guess who is unofficial counselor for Diego Pavia

844
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: Johnny Manziel, No, yes on Pavia. In Manziel Talk every week,

845
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: Manzel is like on his podcast, I tell him to

846
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: do these things, but don't look at what I did

847
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: off the field.

848
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 4: Look at what I did on the field. Don't look

849
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: at what I did off the field.

850
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, Diego Paba and maybe one of the best

851
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: stories ever Diego Pavia and Diovonn Diego Pavia's mom with

852
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: THEO Vonn.

853
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 4: It's a great story. I'll tell it later.

854
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: That sounds like something for a late night program. Area

855
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: forty five is not on tonight because it's Thursday night Football.

856
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: But next up injury information and some other stuff on

857
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: the way out of Texans All Access. Final segment here

858
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: on the program tonight. Injury information. Great to see Will

859
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: Anderson Junior and Derek Stingley Junior back at practice today.

860
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: Now Will had a day of rest, sting was limited,

861
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: and let's just hope for the best there. Stingley so

862
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: important to what the team is trying to do. And

863
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: I know you might be thinking, well, if Lamar Jackson

864
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: can't go for the Ravens and he was DNP again

865
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: today along with Kyle Hamilton's a groin problem, Ronnie Stanley

866
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: left tackle back at practice, we'll see how it all

867
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: shakes out. In the final injury report of the week tomorrow.

868
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: But some of you might be thinking if Lamar Jackson

869
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: can't play, then staying you know, if he's a little

870
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: banged up, maybe he doesn't go because Cooper Rush. Hey, hey,

871
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: hey hey, this defense. They're coming off a shutout. They're

872
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: number one in the league in points per game allowed.

873
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Texans d They want to expand

874
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: on that, and they got to shut down the run

875
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: this week. I mean, this is really important around the edges,

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Speaker 1: up the middle, wherever you want to take it, because

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Speaker 1: you got Derek Henry of Justice Hill, and you know

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Speaker 1: they're going to try to pound the ball if Cooper

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Speaker 1: Rush is the quarterback. And you still have to worry

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Speaker 1: about those pass catchers because they're real good. When you

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Speaker 1: talk about Zay Flowers for Sean Bateman, Mark Andrews the

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Speaker 1: tight end. They still have the weapons they need to

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Speaker 1: beat a lot of teams in this league. And it's

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Speaker 1: a circle the wagons game for the Baltimore Ravens. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into this Houston Methodist Minutes, yet another part

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Speaker 1: of our conversation with doctor Pidell. Doctor Kenneth Podell of

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Speaker 1: the Houston Methodists Concussion Center and we are talking about

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Speaker 1: the Guardian caps this week. Let's get into that with

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Speaker 1: doctor Padell.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Guardian cap is relatively notes in about its third

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Speaker 6: or fourth year mandatory in preseason for most of the

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Speaker 6: positions being played, and this is the second year it's

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Speaker 6: optional in gameplay for the players. A few players are

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Speaker 6: starting to use them, and the NFL has tested them

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Speaker 6: and they've been tested by some independent researchers as well,

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Speaker 6: and the data is very strong that the Guardian caps

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Speaker 6: will reduce the amount of energy and torque or twist

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Speaker 6: that goes into the head, thus reducing concussions in professional

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Speaker 6: football players. It works very well in collegiate and professional players. However,

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Speaker 6: the Guardian cap for high school and adolescents is different

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Speaker 6: than the professional ones, so the data for our younger

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Speaker 6: kids quite isn't there yet, and there is some pause

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Speaker 6: that we need to take to make sure that those

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Speaker 6: Guardian caps are safe for our younger players. It adds

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Speaker 6: a little bit weight and a little bit circumference. So

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Speaker 6: my one concern is the next strength of some of

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Speaker 6: our younger players. Is it strong enough to support the

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Speaker 6: Guardian cap. But at the professional level it seems to

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Speaker 6: be very effective in reducing concussions. The NFL data indicates

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Speaker 6: about a fifty percent reduction at least in pre season concussions.

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Speaker 1: I was moving some things around the house and came

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Speaker 1: across a helmet from the first year of Texans football

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two, and I thought, my goodness, how

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Speaker 1: the helmet has evolved. And it continues too. Right, this

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Speaker 1: is an ongoing process to continue to look at the

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Speaker 1: helmet and how it can improve to reduce concussion.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the NFL has actually put a lot of money

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Speaker 6: and time in having various companies and individuals research helmets.

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Speaker 6: There's been an explosion in the different materials being used

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Speaker 6: in helmets. They now have three D custom fits for

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Speaker 6: helmets that really helps with mitigating the energy. And what

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Speaker 6: you'll see now is position specific helmets that are designed

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Speaker 6: for different positions like football quarterback. The helmets have more

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Speaker 6: protective abilities in the back of the head because that's

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Speaker 6: where most of the quarterbacks land up hitting their head.

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Speaker 6: Linemen have more protection in the front of the helmet

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Speaker 6: because they're hitting their front of their heads. Both the

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Speaker 6: NFL and the NFL Players Association combined the helmets evaluated

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Speaker 6: for concussion risk and they constantly update the really good

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Speaker 6: helmets and banned helmets, and what's interesting, helmets that used

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Speaker 6: to be top rated five years ago are not so

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Speaker 6: good anymore. So their technology's really expanded.

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Speaker 1: There's doctor Keidith Pidell of the Houston Methodist Concussion Set,

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Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Houston Texans, Houston Methodist

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Speaker 1: Leading Medicine. All right, that's gonna do it. For tonight's show.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night, We're gonna have Frank Ross, special teams coordinator

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Speaker 1: on the program. Always a great visit with him as

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Speaker 1: we talk about the craze, the mania for block kicks

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Speaker 1: in this league and special teams going nuts with all

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Speaker 1: the returns and everything like that. So who better to

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Speaker 1: get on to talk about league wide stuff and the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans going up to Baltimore and what it takes

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Speaker 1: from that third phase to get the victory on Sunday

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Speaker 1: in a place where you have never won. I keep

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Speaker 1: harping on that, because yeah, you are trying to make

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Speaker 1: history on Sunday against Baltimore. Also on the show tomorrow

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Speaker 1: to Meeko Ryan's with the pregame interview and a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff. So stay tuned for that six

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Speaker 1: o'clock and Texans Playbook Saturday Night ten thirty five, ABC thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Check it out Sunday's game nine o'clock in the morning

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Speaker 1: with Texans Countdown presented by Medelo Especial twelve Noon Kick.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait. Thursday Night football coming your way next. Have

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Speaker 1: a great evening, Go Texans.