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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: A gorgeous young twenty five year old girl seemingly vanishes

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Speaker 2: into thin air, the family getting no answers. We've got

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Speaker 2: to help find Arelie. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us here at Crime Stories

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Speaker 2: and Serious xem one eleven. Listen to this a rally.

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Speaker 3: Garcia was seen leaving her apartment around six thirty in

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Speaker 3: the morning, headed to work. Garcia never made it to work. Instead,

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Speaker 3: police found her red Honda Accord in Big Sir near

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Speaker 3: the Little Sir River. Her car was locked, and phone

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Speaker 3: and car keys were found inside the vehicle, but no

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Speaker 3: sign of a rally Garcia. Brian Johnson of the Sealina's

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Speaker 3: Police Department told KSBW Action News eight that they had

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Speaker 3: help from Monterey County Sheriff's departments Search and Rescue Team,

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Speaker 3: as well as helicopters, airplanes and drones in the sky

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Speaker 3: and search and Rescue team dogs on the ground, but

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Speaker 3: nothing came up after two days of searching. Since then,

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Speaker 3: police have checked Orelli Garcia's bank account activity, phone records,

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Speaker 3: contacted area hospitals and police departments, but they have no

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Speaker 3: leads or any evidence of foul play.

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Speaker 2: No leads? How can that be? You know, in my

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Speaker 2: experience after helping to search for hundreds and hundreds of

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Speaker 2: missing people, they don't just disappear into thin air. There

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Speaker 2: are leads, they just haven't been found. With me an

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Speaker 2: all star panel to make sense of what we know

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Speaker 2: right now, the first to Mike Hassel, President founder, Peace

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Speaker 2: River Canine Search and Rescue. You can find them online

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Speaker 2: at p r SAR dot org. Peace River Canine Search

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Speaker 2: and Rescue. Mike Castle. Nobody disappears into thin air. That

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Speaker 2: doesn't happen. There are clues, there is evidence left behind,

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Speaker 2: apparently nobody's finding it. Do you agree or disagree with that?

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Speaker 4: No, I totally agree with that. Somebody probably saw something.

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Speaker 4: They just haven't found that person yet, and hopefully they

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Speaker 4: will and maybe with enough attention they'll come forward and

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Speaker 4: say what they saw. It's a really unusual case that

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Speaker 4: two days of searching around the car that they found

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Speaker 4: her personal items in the car and no trace of

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Speaker 4: or whatsoever. Montress is a good search team. And I'm

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Speaker 4: going back to my old stopping grounds because that's where

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Speaker 4: I started back in Malibu, so I know this area

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Speaker 4: really well and very surprised they didn't find anything at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm very surprised too, and Mike Hass I think that

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Speaker 2: there is evidence that has not been found or as

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Speaker 2: you say, has it been let me say relayed. Someone

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Speaker 2: sees knows heards something, but they don't know what they heard,

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Speaker 2: saw or learned. In order to hand it over, We're

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Speaker 2: looking for a beautiful twenty five year old girl, her

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Speaker 2: family beside themselves. But what more do we know about

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Speaker 2: this young girl? Alrellie, take a listen to our friends

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Speaker 2: at crimeonline dot com.

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Speaker 3: Really Garcia is the youngest of six children. After her parents'

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Speaker 3: marriage broke up, Garcia lived with her mother, Blanca Sanchez,

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Speaker 3: in Selinas, California. After high school, Garcia began training in

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Speaker 3: the Automotive Mechanics Technology program at the Center for Employment Training.

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Speaker 3: She found a job at my Chevrolet and Selenas as

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Speaker 3: a service advisor. Co workers described to Really Garcia as

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Speaker 3: the quote happy one of the group.

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Speaker 2: To Dan Corsantino, joining me, former police chief, former sheriff,

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Speaker 2: also with US Homeland Security on the senior advisory board,

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Speaker 2: now private eye at Dan Coorsantino dot com. Dan Corsantino,

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Speaker 2: did you hear that that she was the quote happy

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Speaker 2: one of the group. Now this is a young woman

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Speaker 2: that has broken into a male dominated industry, you know, service,

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Speaker 2: car service. I will never forget when I worked at

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Speaker 2: Sears when I was in high school. Normally I was

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Speaker 2: in the girls junior clothing department or the candy shop.

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Speaker 2: Once in a great while that throw me into automotive.

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Speaker 2: I would basically want to go hide in the back

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Speaker 2: no answers. This girl plows into it, makes her way

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Speaker 2: at my Chevrolet and Selina's as a service advisor, telling

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Speaker 2: So she's a success. She's doing really well, and she's

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Speaker 2: known as quote the happy one day Corsentino. Why is

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Speaker 2: it that we see the best, the sweetest, the most

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Speaker 5: Well, you said it, Nancy, it's really difficulty. Here's a

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Speaker 2: She loved cars. You know, my nephews like that. We

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Speaker 2: a car mechanic. He worked at what is it Autos

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Speaker 5: And she was part of a Miso Fresh car club

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Speaker 5: So she had a passion. But your question the victimization

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Speaker 5: can't explain that there's no explanation in regards to this

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Speaker 5: cruel world that we live in, but we see that

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Speaker 5: all too often. Well, other things this does suggest, though,

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Speaker 5: in a male dominated vocation, is she had the respect

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Speaker 5: of her fellow mechanics and she was successful in that environment.

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Speaker 2: Joining me right now is a very special guest, Ellie Mendoza.

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Speaker 2: This is Aureli's sister and you can find her online

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Speaker 2: at Aurelli Garcia spelled r e l i E Arelli

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Speaker 2: Garcia dot com, gofund me dot com, Help find Arelli Garcia,

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Speaker 2: and at Bring Aurelli Home Underscore. We really need your help.

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Speaker 2: Arelli is not a celebrity, she is not a high

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Speaker 2: profile case. She's not a fashion model that walks the

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Speaker 2: runways of New York at fashion Week. This is a beautiful, young,

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Speaker 2: loving girl coming from a big family that loved her

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Speaker 2: more than anything. This is a girl who loved cars.

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Speaker 2: She has a red wrapped Honda that she worked on incessantly.

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Speaker 2: This is a great girl, and she's not getting the

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Speaker 2: attention and the effort that she needs. Ellie, thank you

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Speaker 2: for being with us. I just can't say enough about

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Speaker 2: your sister, but I won't. I mean, I've researched Herbert.

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Speaker 2: I want you to tell me about Arelli.

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Speaker 6: Yes, of course, thank you for having me. I'm glad

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Speaker 6: that you pointed out that point. Obviously, we're just a

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Speaker 6: simple family. We are not rich, we are not somewhat important.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're important to us, You're important to us. Just

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it because a lot of people still don't

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Speaker 6: know about her story. They still don't know, and it's

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Speaker 6: just really frustrating because we've been asking for it, o

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Speaker 6: Inness since the beginning, and we're not getting back.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about her, tell me about her personality. Dan

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Speaker 2: Corsentino with formerly with the US Homeland Security. He certainly

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Speaker 2: knows slouch. He knows what he's talking about. He said

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Speaker 2: something that really caught my attention, and it was kindhearted

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Speaker 2: people that are loving and happy and kind hearted. I mean, Ellie,

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Speaker 2: when we see a homeless person, we go buy them

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Speaker 2: David my son got out of the car to go

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Speaker 2: give someone money. I'm like, no, don't. I pulled the

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Speaker 2: didn't know if he was mainly unstable. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: to John David. My point is a good heart. My

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Speaker 2: somebody else. And it makes me think up already and

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Speaker 2: did that somehow put her in harm's way? Her own

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Speaker 6: At least a really funny person. She loves to help people.

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Speaker 6: Always they put other people before her. It's a very

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Speaker 6: hard working girl. See in what point she hadn't almost

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Speaker 6: She loves shopping for chinks stuff. She's at addicted to

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Speaker 6: always be working on it, buy new things, you know,

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Speaker 6: either inside or yes, making it look cute and shiny

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Speaker 6: like whenever she's driving around. You could tell that suddly

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Speaker 6: because her car was special.

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Speaker 2: You know that munds me so much of my nephew Sam,

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Speaker 2: ever since he was a teen boy, like thirteen, obsessed

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Speaker 2: mean he went on to major in chemistry and became

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Speaker 2: we know about Arelli? What kiss should lie on? What

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Speaker 3: Even though she's the youngest, Arelly Garcia is very close

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Speaker 3: to two of her married sisters, Veronica and Elisette. Still

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Speaker 3: living at home with her mother, Garcia texted sister Veronica

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Speaker 3: almost daily. On September twenty second, Arelly Garcia sent Veronica

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Speaker 3: a message at six am, a simple message of good morning,

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Speaker 3: I love you. At six thirty am, Garcia is seen

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Speaker 3: on surveillance video leaving her apartment headed for work a rally.

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Speaker 3: Garcia is scheduled to be on the job by seven

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Speaker 3: this day Arelly Garcia wasn't.

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Speaker 1: She didn't show up at all.

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Speaker 2: So in just thirty minutes, everything changes.

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Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grease.

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Speaker 2: Let me go to another special guest joining us, Ricardo

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Speaker 2: two var journalist, digital content manager at KIO N forty

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Speaker 2: six that, by the way, was the very first station

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Speaker 2: to pick up on Aurelli's case and has followed it extensively.

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Speaker 2: One of the few, and I'm not sure why others

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Speaker 2: being with us. Let me just ask you a couple

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Speaker 2: of very quick questions. Ricardo did already have a boyfriend.

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Speaker 7: As far as I'm concerned, not at the time.

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Speaker 2: No, Okay, that's important, Ellie. Do you know of a

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Speaker 6: Well, we did find out after ye find out what

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Speaker 6: that she was on a relationship.

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Speaker 2: Okay, important? Who? What? Where?

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Speaker 8: Why?

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Speaker 2: When who is the boyfriend? Why was it a secret

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Speaker 2: and what did you find out about it? And has

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Speaker 2: the ex the boyfriend been clear?

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Speaker 6: Not sure how long they were dating. They were barely starting.

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Speaker 6: So that's why, you know, on typical static families, we

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Speaker 6: don't normally like to bring a guy too soon because

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Speaker 6: you know, well, my family starts, you know, assuming, Okay,

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Speaker 6: this is a guy, you're gonna marry him whatever.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can understand that. The minute you bring

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and like you don't even know if that's you know,

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Speaker 6: if they're gonna last or not. So I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 6: that was the main reason, other than that his name

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Speaker 6: is Marcello. He what Marcello?

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Speaker 2: Marcello? Question regarding Marcello. Yeah, did police get his alibi

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Speaker 2: for those thirty minutes.

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Speaker 6: According to what they told us, they did interview him

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Speaker 6: and other people, which names are unknown till this day.

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Speaker 2: But they interviewed the boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he could really even they called

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Speaker 6: No, I'm not, like I said, they don't really have

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Speaker 2: don't have any cases at all where after just a

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Speaker 9: I've never seen that. And what we normally see is

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Speaker 2: I believe I've reason to believe, Ricardo Tovar, that police

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Speaker 2: What do you know, Ricardo, Oh, absolutely da.

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Speaker 7: In the course of this investigation, we heard Rin Johnson

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Speaker 7: They interviewed over sixty two people extensively, and they've gone

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Speaker 2: Guys, we are on the search for Aurelli Garcia H

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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, Todd Shipley joining us. Todd G. Shipley, certified

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Speaker 8: About where we've been and what we've done. And I

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Speaker 2: It's the very latest in a search for ourl Garcia

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Speaker 3: The search for a rally Garcia began with a phone

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Speaker 2: Oh yes they did. Here's more.

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Speaker 3: Elis Mendoza and her husband drove to Big Sir, finding

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Speaker 2: That's telling me a lot. To Ricardo Tovar, who's been

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Speaker 7: Yeah, of course. So Highway one is a huge stretch

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Speaker 2: Why would she be there?

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Speaker 2: Strange just thinking this whole thing through her car has

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Speaker 9: Nancy, this is Wendy. The very first thing I thought

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm guessing, just an educated guess, and Ricardo Tovar,

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Speaker 2: Okay, that leads me to a lot of questions. Ricardo

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Speaker 2: Are there any toll booths between her home and where

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Speaker 7: There are no tolls whatever you get on what is

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Speaker 7: It's a straight shot down there no toll booths, but

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Speaker 2: Well, there had to be red red light camp. There

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Speaker 2: After Who gave it to you?

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Speaker 6: The detective pretty much. But we were asking for it

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Speaker 6: According to them, there is no other videos.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yes I do. This is a city of Selenas

435
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 7: has a partnership they lock they're a type of license

436
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 7: plate readers in the city, So yes, if there are

437
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 7: license plate readers in the.

438
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: Celinas area, Okay, I'm just not understanding what if anything

439
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: has been done on the case. Maybe they've done it

440
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: and we don't know, but it's impossible for her car

441
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: to have gone from mom's apartment all the way to

442
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: Big Sir and not be caught by one license grabber

443
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 2: or one red light cam or one business cam. I

444
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: mean that route. Let me ask you, Ricardo. Ellie helped

445
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: me out on the route from the apartment she shared

446
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: with her mom to where her car was found A

447
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: big stir. Are there any businesses do you pass by?

448
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: Strip centers or a mall because they've all got security cam.

449
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 6: Business there's like a liquor store kind of in the

450
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 6: corner if she went through the Aliso Street. But basically

451
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 6: there's camera on every light stock, so there has to

452
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 6: be a trace. I just don't understand why there's not none.

453
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: Nancy, this is Todd, gohead, go ahead, Todd place.

454
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 8: Well, that's why I'm so concerned about the phone. The

455
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 8: phone tracks so much information, and we have little or

456
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 8: no information about what's on that phone, and because it'll

457
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 8: track you from that house to that location and so,

458
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 8: and we have no information so far that I've seen

459
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 8: that will detail exactly what's happened. And it should all

460
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 8: be there. The technology recorded it.

461
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: Ricardo Tovar joining is k Io in forty six. What

462
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 2: was the make of arel Honda?

463
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 7: It was somewhere Sat two twelve ish Honda.

464
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: Chord, Honda a chord and to you talked Shipley. When

465
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 2: did Honda start NAV systems in the accord?

466
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 8: Well, they've had them for a long time, I mean

467
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 8: probably you know, a couple of decades of variations. You

468
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 8: really started it? How much that version actually recorded, It's

469
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 8: going to be something we've got to research. But the

470
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 8: point is there's another location that this potential data that

471
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 8: might be an indication of what happened, and we haven't

472
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 8: seen it now.

473
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: I was just told that the NAV system as we

474
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: know it today in the hand Accord was commenced in

475
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: twenty eleven to twenty twelve. I'm also getting information that

476
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: NAV system, a rudimentary elementary NAV system has been in

477
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: place for two decades now. I think the twenty eleven

478
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: is a more reliable NAV system day as far as

479
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: forensically analyzing where the car has been. And I want

480
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: to direct everyone's attention. And you know this well. Dane Corsantino,

481
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: for instance, in the Alex Murdog trial, and I use

482
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: that because he's such an example his double murders of

483
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: so many forensic intricacies. For instance, in that case, we

484
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 2: looked at his I believe he was driving a suburban,

485
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 2: a big honkin suburban, and we learned when he would

486
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: turn the car on at the time of admission, when

487
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: he put it in drive, reverse, neutral park, what time

488
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: the location, when he would let his electric windows up

489
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: and down, when he would slow down, how fast he

490
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: was driving, where he went. The NAV system tells a lot.

491
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: What about it, Corzantino, Absolutely, I requate that to a

492
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 5: black box as an airplane. It gives you all the

493
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 5: intelligence that you need from speed, as you stated, in

494
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 5: every turn that was made in relationship to accelerations, stopping

495
00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 5: everything so clearly the fifty six to six steam minute

496
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 5: south to Sir would be recorded and they would be

497
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 5: able to journal every aspect of this travel that she

498
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 5: was involved in. Which also is interesting, which Ali had

499
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 5: stated at one point, was how she parked the vehicle.

500
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: And I don't want to get ahead of myself, but

501
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 5: it was very interesting as a clue that when she

502
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 5: normally backed in and lowers or air bank suspension when

503
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: they came upon the car. When Ali came upon the car,

504
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 5: the vehicles pulled forward and the hydraulics were not lowered

505
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 5: in that vehicle, and that also suggests that there was

506
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 5: the potential for suspicious activities.

507
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: Okay, you got to slow down. You know what I

508
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: did not teach me that in law school. Who's jumping

509
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: in this is Minny Patrick.

510
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 9: You know what that suggests to me is that she's

511
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 9: not the one that parked the car. You know, when

512
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 9: you look at the way somebody has have it in custom,

513
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 9: the way they park, the way they drive, the way

514
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 9: they position their personal belongings within the car when they

515
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 9: leave it. You got to wonder who was that to

516
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 9: part that. You know, the one thing I have found

517
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 9: from detective crews just kind of looking online is apparently

518
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 9: a vehicle matching hers past. What it says is the

519
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 9: Carmel Highlands General Store, which is forty minutes from her apartment.

520
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 9: So it seems like she's not taking you know, some

521
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 9: roundabout rogue. Nobody's going to see her. But in fact,

522
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 9: as we're talking about going right through main thoroughfares where

523
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 9: there should have been other camera footage besides the Carmel

524
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 9: Highlands General Store.

525
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: Was she driving it? Wendy at that time?

526
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 9: That was what I was just going to say, who's

527
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 9: behind the wheel.

528
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: Can't tell who's behind the wheel. So there is Ricardo

529
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: Tovar and Ellie Mendoza. There is cam footage from businesses.

530
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: We have to get the cam footage, and I want

531
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: to follow up on what we're saying about how she parked.

532
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: It reminds me of the case of Tara Grinstad, a

533
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: high school teacher that goes missing. We find out years later,

534
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: of course, that she was murdered and her body destroyed, burned,

535
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: But I remember going to her home with her mother

536
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: and the home was off, like there was something. A

537
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: necklace had been broken on the floor, and she would

538
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: never have left it like that. The mom told me

539
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: the driver's seat had been pushed back, and Tara was

540
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: very small and petite, and there was mud all over

541
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: her car, and she was a neat neck. She would

542
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: never have parked the car like that, covered in mud

543
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: and with a seat out of space, out of place,

544
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: which means, as Wendy Patrick just said, somebody else was

545
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 2: driving it. What are we learning about the investigation. We

546
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: know that her purse, her keys, her private items, her

547
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: personal items were still in the car. Her phone was

548
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: still in the car, So I guarantee you, I mean, Ellie,

549
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: she would never go anywhere without her.

550
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 6: Phone, right, definitely, especially nowadays, everything's in your phone, So

551
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 6: there's no way she was like behind definitely.

552
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: Jumping go ahead place.

553
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: I'm on.

554
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: The one News reporter said that she left at five

555
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 4: thirty in the morning, which is two hours earlier than

556
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 4: her normal departure. Is that correct?

557
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: I thought she left at six thirty. Ricardo Tovar, what

558
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: do we know?

559
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 7: Yeah? Absolutely. If you look at the we have an

560
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 7: article on it on the timestamp of the video has

561
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 7: a time stamp a five thirty and the text message

562
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 7: comes in at six fifty six from her sister.

563
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on just a moment. So she did not

564
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: leave at six thirty. She left at five thirty in

565
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: the morning.

566
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 6: Oh no, the thing isn't a Brillian video. It's like

567
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 6: an hour behind, but it's original at six thirty.

568
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: So question, Ellie, did she leave at five thirty or

569
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: six thirty six?

570
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: Around six thirty?

571
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: And your mother confirms that, Ellie.

572
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 6: My mom normally leaves to work before her, but she

573
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 6: always checks on her before leaving.

574
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: So was she still at home when your mom left?

575
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, she was sleeping before she left.

576
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: What time did your mom leave?

577
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 6: She normally leaves around fuck thirty US twenty five.

578
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that time Arelli was still asleep. That corroborates

579
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: to six thirty depart time. And you're right, that's really important.

580
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: If she had left a whole two hours before she's

581
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: due it work, that would have raised a red flag

582
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: that did not happen. Somebody else was jumping in, who

583
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: was it?

584
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was jumping in. This is in again, and yes,

585
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 5: when we were getting to the parking of the vehicle.

586
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 5: Another concern that I had in regards to the crime

587
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 5: scene investigation that was conducted, which we don't know or

588
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 5: I don't know, is whether or not. Really's driver's seat

589
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 5: was in a position for a five five inch person

590
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 5: if there was someone else driving, was the investigation able

591
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 5: to document where that seat was upon the exit of

592
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 5: that vehicle. If there was a larger person driving, obviously

593
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 5: they would push the seat back. And it's just a

594
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 5: tipping point to tell you who was actually drying. In

595
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 5: relationship to the forensic evidence of the DNA and everything else, bodies, fluids,

596
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 5: anything that may have been left behind which warn't found.

597
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 2: An extensive search goes down. Take a listen to Dave mac.

598
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: An extensive search was conducted by the Monterey County Sheriff's

599
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: Search and Rescue teams, which used drones, canine units including canaverdogs,

600
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: and aircraft around Big Serve, but did not find Garcia.

601
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: Video surrounding Garcia's home, according to Detective Oo and Cruise

602
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: with the Selena's Police Department, showed that Arelli left home

603
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: alone in her red Honda. Cruz says no one approached

604
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: her and there is no indication that her vehicle was followed.

605
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: Police found footage of a vehicle matching Garcia's passing at

606
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: the Carmel Highlands General Store about forty minutes away from

607
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: her apartment. It's on a route consistent with the drive

608
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: to Big Serve. There were no obvious indications of foul play,

609
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: and police executed multiple search warrants for Garcia's electronic devices

610
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: and bank accounts, but there's been no activity. Sixty two

611
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: people have been interviewed, including family, friends and coworkers. No

612
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: leads have fanned out.

613
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make sense of what we know right now.

614
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: The family, of course, is not giving up the search.

615
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: To Ellie Mendoza, this is Aureli's older sister. Tell me

616
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: what your mother has gone through since Arelli went missing.

617
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 6: It isn't doing horrible iously. She already has you know, diabetes,

618
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 6: She's she's always lie on a pression now and she's

619
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 6: not doing well. She's been really depressed, you could tell

620
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 6: by looking at her, and her face just looks devastating.

621
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 6: In we're not losing hope that she's going to return home.

622
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: Guys, if you know or think you know anything about

623
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: Aurelli Garcia's disappearance, please contact This is the detective. Selena's detective,

624
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: Edwyn Cruz cru Z at eight three one seven five

625
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: eight seven three nine three repeat Edwin Cruz eight three, one, seven, five, eight, seven, three,

626
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: nine three, and we have his email because I'd really

627
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 2: like to know if they've gotten all of that surveillance video,

628
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: if they've gotten the tag grabbers, who have they interviewed,

629
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: what's the status of the case. Why is the mother

630
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: and the family having to go in front of the

631
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: SELENASPD and protests for answers. I'd like to hear that answer.

632
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: Here's the email, Edwin c As in California, edwinc at

633
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: c I dot selenas dot c A dot us. Edwinc

634
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: at Ci dot Selenas dot c A dot U s.

635
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: We continue our search for Aurelli. There is a ten

636
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: thousand dollars reward. A ten thousand dollars reward again tipline

637
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: eight three one seven five, eight, seven, three, nine three.

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00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: We continue our search for a rally. Goodbye friend,