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Speaker 3: I'm good man, I'm good. We uh, we're finally here, guys.

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Speaker 3: We made it to Game two of the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, this series is really gonna drag out.

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Speaker 2: They don't have Game three until Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So yeah they are. And I believe, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 2: if this series, by a miracle, would actually go seven games.

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Speaker 2: I believe it ends on the eighteenth. Wow. Yeah. So

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Speaker 2: the NBA is desperately trying to stretch this thing out.

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Speaker 2: But the only way they're gonna get people to actually

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Speaker 2: continue to watch is if we get competitive games. So

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have plenty on what's going on. As far

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Speaker 2: as Game two of the NBA Finals, which is gonna

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Speaker 2: be later on tonight in Denver. But before we get

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Speaker 2: starty here, Richie, I want to welcome a brand new affiliate, Peoria, Illinois,

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Speaker 2: Peoria's Sports Radio one oh one point one. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: network affiliate, and their program directors Scott hecka thorn. He

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. Yeah, spent a lot of time in Illinois

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Speaker 3: during the course of my playing career, both at Penn State,

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Speaker 3: the very least. But nonetheless, welcome Peoria one on one

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're gonna have John Palm. Morosi's gonna be joining

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Speaker 2: us coming up. Well, talk about Game one of the

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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Final. Is Las Vegas jumped all over Game one,

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Speaker 2: a lot about this NBA Finals series here, Rich And

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Speaker 2: you know, the one thing I've been talking about all

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Speaker 2: weekend long in watching Nicola Jokic is always talk about

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Speaker 2: copycats in all sports. Right, Suddenly a team wins a championship,

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Speaker 2: All right, what are they doing? And this is how

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Speaker 2: three point shooting became such a main cog and the

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Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors winning all those championships. And I'm watching

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Speaker 2: Jokich and for so many people, this is really the

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Speaker 2: first time they've gotten to see this guy, right. I

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Speaker 2: mean with Denver doesn't get a lot of coverage. We

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Speaker 2: see the stats, you hear about the MVPs. But if

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Speaker 2: you haven't really watched Jokic, you're seeing him for the

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Speaker 2: why he's good is the fact that he understood his

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Speaker 2: when he's around the basket because he's not a big

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Speaker 2: He wasn't athletic. He's just another big guy. And there's

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Speaker 2: He developed his game, and what they've done over these

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Speaker 3: I mean, it speaks a lot to how the the

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Speaker 3: But now if you have a dominant big man, the

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Speaker 3: straight away from this formula. They they've they've trusted Jokic

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Speaker 2: Well, and they're both these teams are reaping the benefits

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Speaker 2: I mean, pat Riley runs that organization. Spolster was his

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's I think it's a big piece

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Speaker 3: You can catch a team. You can catch a team

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Speaker 3: We haven't even mentioned Jamal Murray, who's also a killer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are amazing basketball players and they

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Speaker 2: All Right, we'll have much more on Game two of

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Speaker 5: How are you today, Good afternoon, Good morning to you

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Speaker 5: on the West coast. What a great weekend of sports.

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Speaker 5: We got the Stanley Cup Final going on in some

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Speaker 5: tremendous baseball matchups. Anytime that we get the Dodgers and

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Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, so I want to jump on the

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Speaker 2: Stanley Cuff Final because it mirrors what's going on in

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. You have a team that was the

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Speaker 2: in the Florida Panthers. Very similar to the Denver Nuggets

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Speaker 2: Miami Heat matchups. So Game one, and both these series

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Speaker 2: what the Miami Heat can do to try to get

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Speaker 5: Well, I think we saw last night that the Panthers

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Speaker 5: The Vegas Golden Knights have a lot more forward depth.

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Speaker 5: Stone was not very effective at all, Chandler Stevenson was injured,

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Speaker 5: And now it's a very different forward picture for the

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Speaker 3: Right, well we have you JP. We got to talk

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Speaker 5: I think it is. And the reason why, and this

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Speaker 5: And I think that's that's where Judge is that there's

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Speaker 5: There are not many players as talented as Judge who

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Speaker 2: So we are talking a little bit earlier JP Rich

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Speaker 2: But I look at the Arizona Diamondbacks bounce back season

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Speaker 5: Well, that's some point. And I'm glad you mentioned Leavelo

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Speaker 5: And it's amazing to say it. It's true. I think

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Speaker 5: my biggest pet peeves in sports, and again this goes

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Speaker 5: It's not as though when he lost a hundred games

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Speaker 5: That's just not fair. And I think it is important

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think that was perfectly said JP. I

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Speaker 3: They can afford to bring an analyst, but trusting the

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Speaker 5: Well, you're right not And here's one of the key points.

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Speaker 5: most concerned about? Are we most concerned about the ultimate goal?

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Speaker 5: The organization of the team, of our group and doing

432
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Speaker 5: right by what our mission statement is for us or

433
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Speaker 5: does it? Is my foremost concern that in the first article,

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Speaker 5: the first paragraph, they say, what a great job by

435
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Speaker 5: X person, this guy, and have that be me. That's

436
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Speaker 5: there's a lot of that that goes on in sports,

437
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Speaker 5: a lot of it that goes on in American life

438
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Speaker 5: written large about who's going to get the credit look

439
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Speaker 5: at the teams. And I love this point because it's

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Speaker 5: just it's so important to think about the twenty twenty

441
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Speaker 5: one World Series. Okay, those two teams that met in

442
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Speaker 5: that World Series, the Atlanta Braves the Houston Astros, were

443
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Speaker 5: led by the two oldest managers in the sports. And

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Speaker 5: then guess what, Brian Snicker won it with Atlanta in

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Speaker 5: twenty one, and who won it last year, Dusty Baker.

446
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Speaker 5: And so this old notion that if you're an order manager,

447
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Speaker 5: that all we've got a rush to get the new,

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Speaker 5: more age guy in and we've got to get this

449
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Speaker 5: new generation in that wants to do it by the

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Speaker 5: computers or whatever it is. And again, not all young

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Speaker 5: guys are like that. I should make clear on that.

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Speaker 5: But but what's the problem with the results of the

453
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Speaker 5: older managers? All I know is the last two World

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Speaker 5: series were won by those guys, so clearly they help.

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Speaker 5: Clearly there's value in what Brian Zicker does for the

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Speaker 5: experienced players and for the young players. Clearly there's value

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Speaker 5: in Dusty Baker. Okay, So I always push back whenever

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Speaker 5: anybody wants to suggest, and I think we're on the

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Speaker 5: same patre obviously that that there's that there's this need

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Speaker 5: to do the entire organizational work by by the computers.

461
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Speaker 5: In my in my opinion, there's enough of the data

462
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Speaker 5: and the analytics out there in the ether. Anyway, it's

463
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Speaker 5: on every iPad that's in every clubhouse, in every every

464
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Speaker 5: place in Major League Baseball. The manager, I think has

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Speaker 5: the greatest value off of the iPad. Close the door,

466
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Speaker 5: let's sit down and have a conversation, and let's have

467
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Speaker 5: let's talk about how you can be at your best

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Speaker 5: at seven ten pm when there's no computer in your

469
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Speaker 5: back pocket. Okay, because when you're standing in the batter's box,

470
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Speaker 5: you're not gonna have your high pad with you. You

471
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Speaker 5: got to get out there and perform. And I think

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Speaker 5: that there's enough technology around in technology is helpful. I

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Speaker 5: love it, Okay, it's part of part of our world.

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Speaker 5: But when it comes time to execute, the computer is

475
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Speaker 5: not going to help you. You need to do it

476
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Speaker 5: on your own, and you can be helped in that

477
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Speaker 5: endeavor by the wisdom of the person sitting across from

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Speaker 5: you in the manager's office. Period.

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Speaker 2: Well, as a guy they grew up with Dodger baseball,

480
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Speaker 2: back to the Walter Alston day. He's went through Tommylosorda.

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Speaker 2: That old school mentality works for me and I love it. JP.

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Speaker 2: As always, you're the best of the best. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: your time on a Sunday, and we'll do it again

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 5: There you go, went in doubt, you know, call the

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Speaker 5: oldest millennial in the world. That would be me, someone

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Speaker 5: who likes to read the newspaper in print and send

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Speaker 5: via handwritten notes. That's I mean. I'm I'm an old guy.

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Speaker 5: I'm the oldest millennial in the world. There you go,

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Speaker 5: I'm out of it.

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Speaker 2: You're talking the same language. JP, are the best. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you next week. That's John Paul Morosi. All right,

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Speaker 2: we'll get much more into that. We got one hundred

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Speaker 2: things to take care of today. But first let's find

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Speaker 2: out what is trendy right now. Nick Cope finds himself

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Speaker 2: here on a Sunday, Nick, How did this happen?

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Speaker 6: Well, Monsey usually works this shift with you guys. I

498
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Speaker 6: know she's got a full day over at Dodgers Stadium.

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Speaker 6: We got the Yankees in town, lots of fans taking

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Speaker 6: in these games this week, and so she's got a

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Speaker 6: lot of tours to give before the game. Tours, yes, switched.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is amazing stuff. So she does this often. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: obviously with the Yankees in town, it's huge. I think

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Speaker 2: she said like six tours over three.

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Speaker 6: Years, and normally they they've added more tours than they.

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Speaker 2: Usually do all these days.

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Speaker 6: So she was here this morning and so but I'm

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Speaker 6: happy to hang out with you guys over the day.

509
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Speaker 6: And in terms of baseball, we got just one game

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Speaker 6: going on right now, a bunch that are about to start,

511
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Speaker 6: but Pirates currently leading the Cardinals two to one, that

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Speaker 6: one all the way into the eighth inning. We'll get

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Speaker 6: you updated throughout the show as these other games get going.

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Speaker 6: We've got Game two of the NBA Finals Heat Nuggets

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Speaker 6: tonight eight Eastern, slightly earlier than Game one. Nuggets with

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Speaker 6: the one zero series lead. Caleb Martin for Miami listed

517
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Speaker 6: as questionable due to illness. A report from ESPN says

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Speaker 6: the Suns are retaining associate head coach Kevin Young for

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Speaker 6: Frank Vogel staff. He's said to earn now more than

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Speaker 6: two million a year. That makes him the highest paid

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Speaker 6: assistant in the league. Guy was talking about the Stanley

522
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Speaker 6: Cup final five to two Golden Knights over the Panthers

523
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Speaker 6: in game one, Game two coming up on Monday night

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Speaker 6: French Open, Novak Djokovic won in straight sets. He's into

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Speaker 6: the quarterfinals at Roland Garros for a record seventeenth time.

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Speaker 6: There's one record that Rofenadal doesn't have. In Paris, top

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Speaker 6: seeded Carlos al KaAZ also won in straight sets into

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Speaker 6: the quarterfinals as well. Golf got the Memorial Tournament. Rory

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Speaker 6: mccroy part of a three way tie for first. He

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Speaker 6: and the rest of the leaders are teeing off right now.

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Speaker 6: Ricky Fowler Scotty Scheffler have had big days to move

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Speaker 6: up the leaderboard and into the top ten. Max for

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Speaker 6: Stapping won the Spanish Grand Prix in Formula one.

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Speaker 2: And that's all we got going on right now. Guys.

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Speaker 2: During a conversation with JP, Richie brought up Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 2: I guess we found out the answer of when a

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Speaker 2: guy who's six foot seven two and eighty two pounds

543
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Speaker 2: runs full speed into a wall, who's gonna win? Yeah, Judge,

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Speaker 2: Yeah he wins that. Do you see the surprise behind

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Speaker 2: the lay the like we've never seen that like open

546
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Speaker 2: unless some he actually opens it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there were two. It looked like pitching coaches just

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Speaker 3: watching the game beyond the outfield walls in the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: And when Judge caught that baseball, he crashed through the gate.

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Speaker 3: And it's not supposed to open inwards. It's supposed to

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Speaker 3: open outward. So yeah, there was there were some faces

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Speaker 3: of surprise and shock. He nearly took the one guy out.

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Speaker 3: I mean the gate swung into his lap practically. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'll say this about Aaron Judge. Outside of that unbelievable moment,

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Speaker 3: just the play that he has now replicated this year.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to I don't want to speak

557
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Speaker 3: too soon because look, it's the beginning of June. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of baseball season last left. But if he

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Speaker 3: continues on this tear and we get toward the All

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Speaker 3: Star break, even missing ten games this season with the

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Speaker 3: the hip soreness, uh, he's on pace to equal or

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Speaker 3: or or better the not only the home runs, but

563
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Speaker 3: just the numbers, just the insane numbers he put up

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Speaker 3: last year during an MVP season. And look there, there's

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Speaker 3: there's something admirable about replicable success, right you know, you

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Speaker 3: just think about, Okay, there's a guy who just shows

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Speaker 3: up to work every day. He's he or she is

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Speaker 3: doing the job to the best of their ability, better

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Speaker 3: than most people, and you know, you tip your cap

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Speaker 3: to them. But when somebody can replicate like things that

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Speaker 3: we've never seen ever, ever before, that's when you start

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Speaker 3: pumping the brakes and saying, whoa like, what is what

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Speaker 3: is going on? And Aaron Judge, he's he's doing something

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Speaker 3: differently like and and when I watch when I watch him,

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Speaker 3: and I watch his swing, I watch his approach. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he is clabbering the baseball. But it's because he took

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Speaker 3: the whole conversation about launch angle very seriously. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he has basically now adopted a full uppercut swing. There

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Speaker 3: are times where he's swinging out of ball low in

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Speaker 3: the strike zone and I'm talking about a knee high

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Speaker 3: fastball something like that, and it legitimately looks like he's

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Speaker 3: completely inverted his bat and it looks like a golf swing.

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Speaker 3: It is one of the more sudden swings in baseball.

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Speaker 3: If I were if I were a hitting coach, or

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Speaker 3: if I were somebody who is training baseball and I

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Speaker 3: wanted to get a player to be able to hit

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Speaker 3: the ball opposite, be able to hit the ball out

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Speaker 3: of the park, be able to hit the ball for

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Speaker 3: extra base hits, I would turn on that tape and

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Speaker 3: I would try to teach any player just I mean,

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Speaker 3: the exact mechanics of Aaron Judge, because, to be honest

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Speaker 3: with you, the only person on the planet who I

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Speaker 3: think has done it similar And you know exactly where

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna turn to is Barry Bonds. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: just talking about the numbers. I'm talking about the way

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Speaker 3: they swing the bat. It is so eerily similar, the

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Speaker 3: same bat speed, the same bat path, the same mechanics.

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Speaker 3: It just looks identical. I don't understand why more coaches

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Speaker 3: or hitting coaches don't turn on that film and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: just do it like this guy does it, because it

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Speaker 3: appears to be the exact same formula.

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Speaker 2: Well, and there was another guy that actually did that,

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Speaker 2: and that was Mark maguire.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Of course, a little ladded juice. Well, yeah, makes the

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Speaker 2: ball travel a little further, but it's six seven and

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Speaker 2: eighty two pounds. I don't think Judge needs any help.

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Speaker 2: All right. On the other side, let's stay with baseball

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Speaker 2: for a moment. Here. It's decision time concerning the only

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Speaker 2: player that we can actually mention in the same breath. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, only one of the few players that

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Speaker 2: we can mention in the same breath as Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 2: Who is it? You'll find out. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and Rich Hornberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We're live

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Speaker 2: from the tai Iraq dot Com Studios show Hey Otani, Show,

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Speaker 2: Hey Otani. The Angels Right now, Rich are right at

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Speaker 2: the five hundred mark, thirty and thirty. It would appear

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Speaker 2: that even with Otani and Trout that once again there

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Speaker 2: are not in a position to seriously threaten for I mean,

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Speaker 2: maybe a wild card, but you know, not really doing

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Speaker 2: much damage beyond that. The trade deadline in baseball is

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Speaker 2: August first, so we still got a couple of months

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Speaker 2: to go here. But if you're the Angels, think about

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Speaker 2: this for a second. So if you were to trade

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Speaker 2: show hey Otani, I can't imagine the boatload of talent

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Speaker 2: you're going to get in return. And theoretically, unless he

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Speaker 2: were to immediately sign a contra I get extension with

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Speaker 2: the team he got traded too, he would still be

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Speaker 2: a free agent at the end of the year, and

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Speaker 2: if he really likes to be an Angel, he could

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Speaker 2: essentially rejoin the team. But the one thing the Angels

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Speaker 2: can't do is let this kind of talent walk away.

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Speaker 2: And we don't know, I mean, he may decide I

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Speaker 2: don't want to be an Angel anymore. I want to

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Speaker 2: you know, grow, Maybe I'll be a Dodger or Yank

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Speaker 2: and wherever he wants to be. So I think this

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00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: is going to be an interesting couple of months for

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Speaker 2: the Angels in terms of do we just hang on

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Speaker 2: to the hope that Otani wants to stay here even

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Speaker 2: though we haven't had a winning season since he's been here,

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Speaker 2: or do we unload him and just you know, can

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Speaker 2: you imagine what the bids would be for a talent

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Speaker 2: like Show Hey Otani? What would you do if you're

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Speaker 2: the Angels?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, every every organization has their price.

646
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: I unfortunately think for anybody who's looking to trade for

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Speaker 3: a Show Hey, you would run the risk of the

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Speaker 3: reset taking too long for Show Heyotani to be interested

649
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Speaker 3: in re signing with you. That's what I would think

650
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Speaker 3: is the biggest problem here. I don't think sho Heotani

651
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Speaker 3: is tradable because I think you would have to strip

652
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: a team to its bear studs in order to get him.

653
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: And he's a twenty eight year old ballplayer, So what

654
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 3: sense does this make to show Heotani. I would refuse

655
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: the trade if I were him. I don't want to

656
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Speaker 3: go to a rebuild. I don't want to go to

657
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: a place where I'm the only star. That's what I'm

658
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: leaving if I'm leaving Anaheim. So I don't think it

659
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 3: makes any sense to me. Shoe Heotani is twenty eight

660
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,479
Speaker 3: people forget this because he just got here a couple

661
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: of years ago and there were a couple of injuries

662
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: at first, so he's relatively anonymous before he exploded these

663
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: past two seasons. Shoe Heotani is a once in a

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Speaker 3: generation talent, not only as a hitter but a pitcher

665
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Speaker 3: as well, and as a result, he's going to when

666
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: he hits free agency, make a tremendous amount of money,

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00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: all of it deservedly so, but he's gonna make that money.

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00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: My guess with a franchise that as a future. The

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00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: Angels don't have a future the Angels. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: the star power they've had, for whatever reason, culturally or

671
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: from a player personnel complexion, they can't get out of

672
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: their own way. So very similar to I don't know,

673
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: name an American ballplayer like a Manny Machado who was

674
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: with the Baltimore Orioles for years and years and years

675
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: and was tired of losing and was interested in getting paid.

676
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: A huge amount of money was traded at the end

677
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: of his time there, not the same level of talent

678
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Speaker 3: as Sho heo Tani, and then spent you know, a

679
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 3: half season in LA before signing his Giant three hundred

680
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: million dollar contract with the San Diego Padres. He wanted

681
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: to join a team with the future.

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00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: That's what I.

683
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: Think show Heo Tani is going to be interested in doing,

684
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: because that is certain point. After you've proven to everybody

685
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 3: you can play at this level, after you've proven to

686
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 3: everybody that you're one of the greats of the game,

687
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: you start thinking about your legacy. When you're getting closer

688
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 3: to thirty, you start thinking about the World Series championships

689
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: and the playoff runs that you have. Zero. You've had

690
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: zero of those since playing in the major leagues with Anaheim.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let me ask you this though, because

692
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: the Dodgers right now, along with the Arizona Diamondbacks, had

693
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: the best recon in the National League, but their pitching

694
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: staff is in shambles. You know, I don't know how

695
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: else to put it. I mean, they've been able to

696
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: do it really with smoking mirrors. It's been crazy how

697
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: the Dodgers have maintained. But if you're the Dodgers and

698
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to make a deal to get

699
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Speaker 2: Sho hey O Tani and maybe give up a boatload

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Speaker 2: of prospect talent in order to get him, he could

701
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: help you in the right now. In other words, you

702
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: need that arm in that rotation that takes the Dodgers

703
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: to a whole different level. So I agree with you.

704
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: He's not going to go to some team that you

705
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: know is not in contention. But if the Yankees come calling,

706
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: or the Dodgers come calling, or a team of that level, uh,

707
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: saying we're interested in making a blockbuster deal for the

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Speaker 2: now and hopefully the future. I put it this way,

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Speaker 2: if I were the Dodgers, I would do it even

710
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: if he were to sign elsewhere after the season, because

711
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Speaker 2: this is a Dodger team desert of winning a World Series.

712
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he can help him get there,

713
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Speaker 2: but to me, it would be worth the roll of

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Speaker 2: the dice.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the thing you better be You better be

716
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: sure you are Shohei o Tani away from winning a

717
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Speaker 3: World Series if you trade for him, because if you

718
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: misjudge that and you end up signing away basically your

719
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: franchise to get this guy, or the future of your

720
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 3: franchise to get this guy, and then he doesn't enter

721
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: contract negotiations, or you can't find a fair price for

722
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 3: his talents to stick around with the club that he's

723
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Speaker 3: only played for what weeks months before free agency. I mean,

724
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Speaker 3: it's just not a good equation. It's not a good plan.

725
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Speaker 3: So I don't see it happening. I don't think he's tradable.

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00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: I think he's too talented to be traded because whoever

727
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: trades for him, it's a hope and a prayer that

728
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: he's gonna sign long term and you're gonna have to

729
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: give up way too much for him. I mean, just

730
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Speaker 3: think about the amount of capital it took for the

731
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Speaker 3: Padres to get Sodo. It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, they said Soda wasn't gonna get traded. He was

733
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Speaker 2: one thing we do know. Game two of the NBA

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Speaker 2: That's Peoria Sports Radio one to one point one. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Fox Sports Radio family. There are Chicago White

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Speaker 2: Sox Radio Network affiliate program directors. Scott Heca Thorn said, yeah,

746
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Speaker 2: That's a big win for them, big win for us.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the FSR family, Peoria Sports Radio one oh

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Speaker 2: one point one. By the way, Sam says that he

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Speaker 2: is a veteran of Peoria. You know, Peoria, Illinois.

751
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Speaker 7: Been there a few times, driven through it. It's a

752
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Speaker 7: it's a nice town. It's got some nice bridges, it's

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Speaker 7: got a good look to it.

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Speaker 2: And you found out the population was one hundred and

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Speaker 2: eleventh one.

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Speaker 7: Hundred and eleven thousand, okay, size oka And yeah, I

757
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Speaker 7: used to cover Midwest League Baseball and so the Peoria

758
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Speaker 7: Chiefs were in that league and take on the Seed Rapids,

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Speaker 7: Kernels and some other teams.

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Speaker 2: Now, are they Cubs fans or Cardinals fans there in Peoria?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh, they're definitely Cubs or White Sox fans. White

762
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Speaker 7: Sox fans, Yeah, well, well, I I know they're the

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Speaker 7: White Sox affiliate.

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying from the nationally standpoint, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you're a White Sox fan, of you a Cups fan.

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Speaker 7: No, no, I'm saying, yeah, for National League Cubs, they're

767
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Speaker 7: definitely leaning towards.

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Speaker 3: The Cubs there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, it's Illinois. All right. Well, if

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Speaker 2: you're listening, I appreciate it. Thank you so much joining

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Speaker 2: us here on Fox Sports Radio. All right, Richie, we

772
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Speaker 2: get ready for a game two tonight of the NBA Finals,

773
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: the Nuggets and the Heat. You know, there were a

774
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: lot of theories going into Game one that well, first

775
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: of all, you had a Nuggets team that had been

776
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: off ten days. I mean wow, I mean nine days

777
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Speaker 2: full off, but ten days after the last appearance completing

778
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Speaker 2: that sweep against the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals.

779
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Speaker 2: Some of the Nuggets said, yeah, I will probably be

780
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: a little rusty at the start of the game, but

781
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: we'll shake things off. And that's pretty much what happened.

782
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, the Nuggets I never really felt were threatening

783
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: the game. But I wanted to get your thought on

784
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: Malones tacked as a coach, because he has been very

785
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Speaker 2: vocal with the media on how he has admonished his

786
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 2: team throughout and really turning the screws. And of course

787
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: you played with a guy like that in Belichick, who

788
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure took full advantage of you guys, even more

789
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: so when he won than when he lost. So he's

790
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Speaker 2: going over all this stuff from game one is that

791
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: you know they had all these open threes, sixteen of

792
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: them account of the heat, they only made five. If

793
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: you think Struss is gonna be oh for from three

794
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Speaker 2: point land, you're in dreamland.

795
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: I mean.

796
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: And then he says, yeah, we didn't play any played

797
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: off on the fourth guard, didn't play any defense. How

798
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Speaker 2: does that, from a psychological standpoint sit with you? When

799
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 2: you know you've done well, but the coach is gonna

800
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: nitpick and say, yeah, get off your high horse, you

801
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: didn't play well, you need to be better. How does

802
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: that work on the psyche of a player?

803
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you mentioned it. Playing for a coach like

804
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick, that is how he views is the best

805
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: way to keep his team's mode by talking up the

806
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 3: opponents and talking down what accomplishments you've already accomplished. Now,

807
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: there's there's no doubt that credit is given where credit

808
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: is due, Right, you know, there's no doubt that when

809
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: you do it the right way, he wants to make

810
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: an example of you. From that standpoint, but I would

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Speaker 3: say the majority of the time, the criticisms and the

812
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: poor examples are the ones that a coach like Belichick

813
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Speaker 3: wants the team to learn from, because there's nothing like

814
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: a bad example, right, because if you can learn from

815
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: a bad example, you could actually learn in most cases

816
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 3: more because you can see how you can see. Look,

817
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 3: I mean, look, there are times where you get lucky

818
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: and you win. There's no question about it happens in

819
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: sports all the time. It happens, it happens in life

820
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: all the time. You know, people just luck into a

821
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: situation where shoot, you know, things just fell into place.

822
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: You win the lotto, So you know, whatever, whatever it

823
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: may be, you didn't deserve the job you got, but

824
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: you know the what you had an uncle who worked

825
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: at the businesses. People get lucky all the time. But

826
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: when you lose, when you lose, sometimes it's unlucky, but

827
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: many times it's traceable. Many times you could go back

828
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: to exactly what happened. And when you do that, when

829
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: you do that work, you can get much better. And

830
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Speaker 3: so that's Belichick's theory, and that's what I live through

831
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Speaker 3: in New England. With a coach like Malone in Denver,

832
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 3: the most important thing he has to keep in mind

833
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: is this strategy doesn't work unless there's buy in from

834
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: your top star or stars. He's very fortunate that Jokich

835
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Speaker 3: is the type of player that is willing to play

836
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Speaker 3: ball this way. The reason why Belichick had the ability

837
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Speaker 3: to roll with an iron fist for as long as

838
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: he did and have success for as long as he

839
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: did was as much as attributed to Tom Brady as

840
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: it was his coaching style, because Tom Brady inarguably was

841
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: the best or one of the best players in the

842
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 3: league the entire run during his time in New England.

843
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: Tim Duncan same way in San Antonio.

844
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Speaker 3: Greg Popovich is another example of a guy who rules

845
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Speaker 3: with an iron fist, and he had inarguably one of

846
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 3: the best players in the league or the best player

847
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: in the league in Tim Duncan during his reign of power.

848
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: Who is an unselfish player, team guy all the way.

849
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, Steve Kerr, Yeah, okay.

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00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr a little bit different of approach, but definitely

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Speaker 3: the overseer mug Well, it says you, I think Steve

852
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: Kerr is a nice guy. But look, here's the deal.

853
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: Steve Kerr has ultimate control over that team. And it's

854
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: because a player like Steph Curry again to use the

855
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 3: word you just used to describe Tim Duncan selfless cares

856
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 3: about the input from his coach. So Malone in Denver

857
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: is experiencing the same thing with Jokich. So where we

858
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 3: want to give attention in praise to coaches, you have

859
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: to go back to the people who empower these coaches

860
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: to do what they're doing. And it's the stars on

861
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: their roster who allow these coaches to talk down to them,

862
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: even though they make more money, even though they're more influential,

863
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: even though they if they wanted to. And this is

864
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 3: almost universal across the board. Every player we just discussed

865
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 3: could put their owner in a bind if he said

866
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 3: if he said, look, it's either him or me. You

867
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: got to choose between us, but one of us has

868
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: to go. Almost always you're going to see the player stay.

869
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 3: And in fact, that actually was tested in New England

870
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: when Bill Belichick, if you believe the reports from Seth Wickersham,

871
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: when Belichick wanted to trade Tom Brady to the San

872
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine ers, and the owner, Robert Kraft, got

873
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: in the way and said, no, it'll be a garoppolo instead,

874
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 3: or it'll be nobody, And so Bill was able to

875
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: make the trade with Jimmy G instead of Tom Brady,

876
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: but they were ready to move on to Jimmy G

877
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: back then. Look, having a star player who's selfless and

878
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 3: who is willing to listen to coaching is more important

879
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: than having a good coach in almost every facet because

880
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: you need to have buying. If it's gonna work, if

881
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: the message is gonna send, you need to have somebody

882
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: who's going to receive it and influence the locker room

883
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: when you're not around. And that's exactly what Denver has

884
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: and it's all because of Nikola Jokic.

885
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nikola Jokic is also potentially the worst nightmare for

886
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: the NBA because I don't see this Denver team going

887
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: away anytime soon. They have a young nucleus of players.

888
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 2: Jokicic is just entering the prime of his career. He's

889
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: a big man. It's not like he's gonna lose explosiveness

890
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: because that's not his game. He's just gonna get better

891
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: and better and better. So they have a window maybe

892
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 2: three four five years where they're gonna be right there

893
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: in contention. And this is similar to what happened to

894
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: San Antonio back in the day with Tim Duncan. Every

895
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 2: time the Spurs were in the NBA Finals, the NBA

896
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: Finals ratings with creter, I mean, absolute crater, nobody cared

897
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: and and so we were talking about this yesterday, Rich

898
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: and I know you have a very creative mind. So

899
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 2: we were trying to figure out if you're the NBA now,

900
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: you have to have a willing participant. And I don't

901
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: know how Jokic is when it comes to ideas of

902
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: marketing himself, which by the way, would also help market

903
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: the league. Tim Duncan he didn't engage in an of

904
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: that stuff. You know, Mike Trout for years in baseball,

905
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 2: really didn't want any part of it. So we had

906
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: Sam yesterday was talking about me Cola, me Colea. Now

907
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: let's let's get Sam back in here. He's been running

908
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: around all over the place. So now that we have

909
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: Rich here, Sam throws some of your ideas of actually

910
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: how to market Jokic, because, like I said, potentially this

911
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: Nuggets team, if they can stay healthy, could rattle off

912
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: a couple of NBA championships. And it's like they don't

913
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: want to go down the same path they did with

914
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 2: San Antonio Crater with finals ratings, when a certain team

915
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: that doesn't have a lot of personality ends up dominating.

916
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 7: So how do you how do you market Jokic? So

917
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 7: yesterday I had two ideas. We bring back the uh

918
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 7: the the Swiss big tube tuba.

919
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: Players whatever they were. You know, what are you going up?

920
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: But they just get Meka Okay. I could just put

921
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: he's yeah, make him weird.

922
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: Of of of of mentholated uh loss.

923
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 7: He soothes the itchy sore throat of the Denver Nuggets

924
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 7: fan base and NBA fans everywhere, or go the.

925
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 3: You could see him in the Rockies. I could see him.

926
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 7: Put him in some like later hose in or something,

927
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 7: you know, given one of those long uh serbians exactly

928
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 7: whatever that is, or go I don't know if he'd

929
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 7: buy into this idea because it's like a soft drink idea,

930
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 7: but go with a Nicola cola.

931
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, first of all, it also happened because people

932
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 2: some people don't know it's Nicola, but some people say

933
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 2: Nicola and it's not. It's Nicola Jokic. Maybe maybe he

934
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: should go with joke and see everyone calls him the joker,

935
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: but he's really the yoker.

936
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: Oh you mean like almost like eggs eggs. Maybe maybe

937
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: do Denny's commercials.

938
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: Yes, he's not the joker, he's the yoker.

939
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 3: Okay, how about this one?

940
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: How about this one?

941
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 3: Slightly different pronunciation. But you remember when John Madden the

942
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: boom tough acting to acting right, just call him jocketch

943
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: instead of yoking.

944
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: I like that. See list the NBA is listening right

945
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: now because they're because what do we what do we

946
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: do with this guy? Because he's he's so many people

947
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: are just discovering him right now. I like the breakfast

948
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: yok Yo place. He's no joker, He's a yoki.

949
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 3: I want I want this Serbian superstar to be associated

950
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: with your omelets or the rest of our day.

951
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 8: Talking about breakfast. The most natural partnership for Jokic is

952
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 8: Taco Bell because he was drafted during a Taco Bell commercial.

953
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 8: If you guys remember that.

954
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 3: Oh I do remember that. Yeah, it was such an

955
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 3: afterthought that.

956
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 8: The second round at the end of the second round

957
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 8: that the NBA was running commercials on ESPN.

958
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: I think it was local commercial all right, So there

959
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: are possiblies, but he has to be a willing participant.

960
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: Does he strike you as a guy that would mean

961
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: taco bell and making fun of yourself when you're a

962
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: superstar athlete usually works.

963
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: I agree.

964
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, it's worked for Shack for years, It's

965
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: worked for Charles Barkley for years. Self effacing humor. I mean,

966
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: I go all the way. Joe Nama just celebrated, by

967
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: the way, his eightieth birthday. Right, he did a panty

968
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 2: host commercial.

969
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: Oh he did.

970
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did this panty where he is laying down

971
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: and they were going up his legs and there he

972
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: is with panty hosts on and he couldn't and he

973
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: was laughing. The thing that made the commercial was he

974
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: laughed like, I know, this is ridiculous. He's like, if

975
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: my legs could look good in these, imagine what your

976
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: legs are going to look like. And it was so

977
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: upseturd he couldn't. I had all these knee surgery scars

978
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: and everything else. So he was like, but it was

979
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: it was fun and it was highly effective advertising. So

980
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to be interesting to see, Uh, if the

981
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: Nuggets complete the job, what they gonna do with Jokic

982
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 2: because now people know who he is? All right. On

983
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: the other side, can the Miami Heat change their game

984
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: plan and come up the winning game too? What do

985
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: they have to do? We're gonna tell you. This is

986
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and Rich Hornberger Fox Sports

987
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: Sunday Live from the Tairac dot Com studios. And now,

988
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: one thing, the Denver Nuggets should be a very rested team.

989
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:03,959
Speaker 2: They have played one game in thirteen days. That's not bad.

990
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: I mean one game. So tonight's they's second game in

991
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: thirteen days.

992
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna They're gonna be fresh. They're gonna be rested.

993
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 3: And apparently, look, this isn't true with every squad. There

994
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: are certain teams that you know, roll better with momentum,

995
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 3: but apparently they have no problem taking extended amounts of

996
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 3: time off and coming back looking as good or better

997
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 3: than ever. Because that opening game against the Heat the final,

998
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: I mean, the game wasn't even even near what the finals.

999
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 3: I mean, they dominated basically from the opening tip off

1000
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 3: really midway through the first quarter. All the way through

1001
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 3: the rest of that game.

1002
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: All right, So let let's let's figure this out for

1003
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: a second here, Let's let's try to make a serious because,

1004
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: like I said, we're gonna at least have another week

1005
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: of talking about this series and trying to make you know,

1006
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: some sense of it. So you have two teams, teams

1007
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: that are well coached. Okay, these are well coached teams.

1008
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: The problem for the Miami Heat is this, Denver physically

1009
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 2: is bigger than you across the board. You have a

1010
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 2: team that you're facing that is bigger across the board

1011
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: and just as skilled as you are. So sometimes you

1012
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: know you can offset size because you're more skilled. That's

1013
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: not the case here. Denver has as much skill, maybe

1014
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: even more so than Miami, and they have a huge

1015
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: size advantage. I mean when we see not only Jokic

1016
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: but Gordon, I mean they're pounding Miami inside. I mean

1017
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: the fact that the Heat only had two free throws

1018
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 2: in that game, what was that? I mean you could say, well,

1019
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 2: we rely in the three. Miami doesn't rely in the three.

1020
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: They're not Boston, They're not one of those type of teams.

1021
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 2: So Jimmy Butler played too soft, wet exminated. Okay, so

1022
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: all right, So if it's the David versus Goliath thing,

1023
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 2: so how does David beat Goliath in this series? Rich?

1024
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: Well, I think it starts in and ends really with

1025
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler and the aggressiveness of his play. Look, Jimmy

1026
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 3: is not going to be able to have too many

1027
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: thirteen point nights because their their season will come to

1028
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 3: an end very quickly. It's it's I mean it, Look

1029
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat. What's special about the Miami Heat? And

1030
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 3: you could tell me, well, the development of Caleb Martin

1031
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 3: and how about Bam out of Bay Bio, both offensively

1032
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 3: and defensively, the progression we've seen there. You could talk

1033
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 3: to me about Eric Spoulstra, You could talk to me

1034
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 3: at the front office level with pat Riley. You could

1035
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: you can tell you can tell me about all those things,

1036
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: the veteran leadership of Kevin Love, I mean, go down

1037
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: the list, Tyler hero potentially coming back all those things.

1038
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: The truth and the secret sauce of Miami Heat is

1039
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 3: very simple. It's Jimmy Butler. That is the whole show.

1040
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: Miami Heat had a special season because they have a special,

1041
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 3: special player who started in a big way showing up

1042
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: during this postseason run. I mean, this was a team

1043
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: that won in the playing round. This is a team

1044
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: that just based off of confidence and the will and

1045
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 3: the great and superior play of Jimmy Butler, has been

1046
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 3: able to navigate at times a tumultuous postseason, but it's

1047
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: gotten them to the finals. Now I don't know if

1048
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: they have anything for the Denver Nuggets. This could be

1049
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 3: a sweep and this could be over, you know, almost

1050
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: before it started. But the only strategy is to somehow

1051
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: empower Jimmy Butler to take over a game and then

1052
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: try to repeat that success because if you don't, if

1053
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 3: they stop Jimmy, the Miami Heat have literally next to

1054
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: zero chance of winning this series.

1055
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: This was the lowest scoring team in the league, the

1056
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: Miami Heat. Now we've been hearing about ty Tyler Herro.

1057
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 2: You know, could he be coming back had that a

1058
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: hand injury. They're sort of hinting he's practicing right now,

1059
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: So I mean that that would at least give him

1060
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: an added score. But when you just like I said,

1061
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean, the thing, the thing that always amazes me

1062
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: about Jokic, and there aren't a lot of players like

1063
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: this is that he always seems under control, like he's

1064
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: never hurried. Maybe it's just because he moves so slowly

1065
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 2: to begin with, but he just he just there's no

1066
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: panic with him, you know. He just he goes about

1067
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: his business, you know, even when he even when like

1068
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: the first quarter of Game one, where he didn't even

1069
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: take a shot, right, I mean, he was just passing

1070
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: the ball. Everything seems very deliberate, slow moving, and yet

1071
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: the end result is they're seemingly scoring on every possession.

1072
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: This is a Denver team that can beat you so

1073
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: many ways, especially at home. They only lost seven home

1074
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: games the entire year, and they haven't lost any home

1075
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: games during this postseason. So this is the heat in

1076
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: their three series against the Knicks, the Bucks, and the Celtics,

1077
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: one game one of all three of those series on

1078
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: the road, and Malone you know, had a big, you know,

1079
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: raw ross speech for Denver before Game one, citing the

1080
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 2: fact that Miami to open all their previous series of

1081
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: the road winning. He's like that, not in our house,

1082
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: not in our house. Well, as it turnout, he he

1083
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: doesn't have to tell this team they're gonna play their games.

1084
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: So I agree with you. The only way and It

1085
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: reminds me of two thousand and one. The Lakers are

1086
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: playing the seventy six ers. I think they're gonna have

1087
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: a special on that Sixers team. Larry Brown was the coach,

1088
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: Alan Iverson was the league's MVP. The Lakers were just

1089
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: way better, but Iverson had this unbelievable Game one at

1090
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: Staples Center. I scored forty six, forty seven points. He

1091
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: did the step over on tyl who was a backup guard.

1092
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: Then oh yeah for the Lakers, and the Sixers won

1093
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: the game.

1094
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 3: I know.

1095
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: I had a friend of mine who was a big

1096
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: Laker hater, and he goes, this is just the beginning.

1097
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: I said, the Lakers will not lose another game. And

1098
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: by the way, the last three games of that series

1099
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: were all in Philadelphia. They swept all three there. So

1100
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: to me, if the Heat are gonna even win a

1101
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: game in this series, I agree with you, it's gonna

1102
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 2: have to be one of those Jimmy Butler just you know,

1103
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 2: forty seven points just one off. He was unguardable and

1104
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: he single handily beat him.

1105
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you either have to do that, you have

1106
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 3: to hope that somehow Jokic gets hurt, which obviously nobody's

1107
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 3: rooting for an injury.

1108
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: Well you, but you could attack, see this thing, Rich,

1109
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: here's the thing about attacking. Maybe maybe you could get

1110
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: him a couple of quick fouls. If you could force

1111
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: him to have to set out even half a quarter, right,

1112
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: maybe he could do some damage when he's not on

1113
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: the court. That's the big part about attacking the hoop.

1114
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: Maybe you can get a couple of quick fouls and

1115
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,959
Speaker 2: Yo gets them force him to put him on the bench.

1116
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 3: It's the only chance you have. Yeah, I mean, and

1117
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 3: that's exactly where he's going to go. You either hope

1118
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 3: for him to get hurt or you hope for him

1119
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: to get into foul trouble because when he's on the court,

1120
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 3: and he helps on the defensive end as well. You know,

1121
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 3: we talk about a lot of his offense, but he's

1122
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: obviously a lumbering giant who's got swiftness to his game

1123
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 3: enough so that he can help on the defensive side

1124
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: of the court. It's just it's uh, Look, it's an

1125
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: impossible task to beat the Nuggets if they have everybody

1126
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 3: on the court and they're doing whatever they want to do.

1127
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 3: But if you can somehow find a way to take

1128
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: them out of their game, or encourage Jimmy to get

1129
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: in his bag and be the Jimmy Butler who's led

1130
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat through the majority of this postseason and

1131
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 3: be the be the guy. Well, then you have a chance,

1132
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 3: I mean you have a you have a puncher's chance

1133
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 3: to make this series interesting. I still give the overwhelming

1134
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 3: advantage to the Nuggets. I don't think that the Heat,

1135
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 3: even if they put together an incredible game plan with

1136
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: all this time that they'll have in between games, because

1137
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 3: the NBA is going to try to have this this

1138
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 3: final series go until next Father's Day. But assuming you

1139
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 3: can put together any sort of plan, you could at

1140
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 3: least make this interesting. And if it gets to a

1141
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 3: tie series, you know, one to one, two two. Look,

1142
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: if you haven't completely exhausted yourself, then could could I

1143
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 3: perceive giving Miami a chance? Well yeah, but we can't

1144
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: have that conversation until a we see Jimmy show up

1145
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 3: for one of these games, and hopefully it's tonight or

1146
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: B they find a way to neutralize Jokic basically in

1147
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 3: a way that no other team has been able to

1148
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: do this entire postseason so far.

1149
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 2: I wonder if we'll be talking NBA Finals next Sunday,

1150
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 2: Game four. By the way, they're actually gonna have said

1151
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 2: they play games around Wednesday, then game four on Friday. Okay,

1152
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: so we'll see there. All right, let's find out what's

1153
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: trending right now. Nick Cope is standing by Nick. Do

1154
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 2: you see any hope for the Miami Heat in this series?

1155
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 6: I don't, but I mean, we'll see. They've proven us

1156
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 6: wrong every step of the way.

1157
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 3: Right.

1158
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: The thing I will say this, though Spolstra has maintained

1159
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: he's basically been laughing through these entire playoffs, even when

1160
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: they lost that crazy Game six of the Celtics. After

1161
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: the game, he's like, eh, you know, you realize that

1162
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: ball bounces three inches in any direction other than where

1163
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 2: it landed. We're already in the NBA Finals. Yeah, exactly. So, yes, Sam,

1164
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: he's seen enough crazy things.

1165
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 7: Quickly, I think. And I'm sorry to jump in your

1166
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 7: update here, Nick. A bad omen for the Heat is

1167
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 7: that they had not lost a game one in any

1168
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 7: of the series right up to that point.

1169
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1170
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, that was the point that Malone said

1171
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: before Game one with his team not in.

1172
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 7: Our house, right, So it's like, that's just a bad

1173
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 7: indicator for the.

1174
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: Heat, and they were also coming off a seven game series.

1175
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: They had to come from the road in Boston, you know,

1176
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: three days later in Denver.

1177
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 7: So I think we're just determining now whether this is

1178
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 7: a sweep or whether it's going to go.

1179
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: To I'm not taking any more time away from Nick.

1180
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, sweet A sweep or a gentleman's sweep.

1181
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 6: I think that's what everyone is wondering to be that

1182
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 6: you brought up Tyler Hero. He was listed as out

1183
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 6: despite being on the practice court yesterday in Denver. However,

1184
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 6: his status could still be changed prior to tonight's game, So

1185
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 6: there's a slimmer of hope that Tyler Hero maybe something

1186
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 6: allows him to get on the court tonight. Caleb Martin

1187
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 6: he missed practice yesterday due to an illness, and he's

1188
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 6: been listed as questionable for tonight's game. Baseball got a

1189
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 6: bunch of games going on, one game already. Final Pirates

1190
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 6: topped the Cardinals two to one, Brewers leading the Reds.

1191
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 6: That is a three things score. On the fourth inning,

1192
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 6: Andrew Monasterio homerd earlier his first career home run. Philly's

1193
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 6: on top of the Nationals one Zip in the fourth

1194
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 6: jt Real Mudo with a home run there. Blue Jays

1195
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 6: have opened up a three to nothing lead on the Mets.

1196
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 6: In the third inning at City Field, Vlatgerer Junior just

1197
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 6: homered moments ago. Oakland A is with a five to

1198
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 6: one lead on the Marlins. A five run third inning

1199
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 6: for the Athletics, raised in Red Sox tied at one

1200
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 6: in the fourth and a few games have just gotten

1201
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 6: going Angels and Astros, the Guardians and the Twins and

1202
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 6: then the Tigers in the White Sox. Those three games

1203
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 6: no score just yet. In the early innings at the

1204
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 6: French Open, Novak Djokovic and top seed Carlos Alcraz on

1205
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 6: the men's side, each one in straight sets, both into

1206
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 6: the quarterfinals. On the women's side, we'll keep an eye

1207
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 6: on American Sloan Stevens. She's about to take on the

1208
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 6: number two seed Arena Salablenka. In Golf Memorial Tournament, Roy

1209
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 6: McElroy has taken the lead with an early birdie. He

1210
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 6: has had seven under. Scottie Scheffler and Victor Hollind each

1211
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 6: just one shot back, and then finally Formula one Max

1212
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 6: for Stapping won the Spanish Grand prix earlier today.

1213
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: Guys, back to you all right, thank you very much, NiCl.

1214
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: Check you with you a little bit later on. You

1215
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: remember last week, Rich, we were talking about the possible

1216
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: return of Tom Brady as Raiders quarterback.

1217
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 3: Yes, so yesterday listening to our show.

1218
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So he immediately said, I better squash this

1219
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: idea before it goes any further. So yesterday I brought

1220
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 2: it up again with Bucky, right, and it wasn't so

1221
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: much the return of Brady because and again I don't know.

1222
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: I guess they're confident that Jimmy Garoppoli is going to

1223
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 2: come out from this foot surgery. But I mentioned in

1224
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: fact again and then this is something that comes from

1225
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: my Raider roots and the mentality of Al Davis back

1226
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: in the day that he never forgets, right, he never

1227
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: let go of the Imaca reception. Of course, years later

1228
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: it was a similar situation with the tuck game. So

1229
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: I went on and on again about this idea that

1230
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 2: if Tom Brady wants to sign on as an owner,

1231
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: even a small owner, some association of the Raiders, he's

1232
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 2: got to come clean as far as what happened on

1233
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 2: that tuck play. Admit that you know, you fumble the

1234
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: ball and this guy send this on Twitter. This guy

1235
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 2: said this, he goes could not last five minutes. Hartman

1236
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: needs to stfu about TB twelve having to apologize. Bucky

1237
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 2: deserves a better co host. Who can Stan Hartman? Well,

1238
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: I've been getting that for years. I mean, Rich knows

1239
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 2: better than anybody. But I understand the annoyance level. I

1240
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: get that. But I love talking about this Raiders team

1241
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: because there's so many components to the Raiders. First, let's

1242
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: still recognize even though they haven't had a whole lot

1243
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: of success over the last twenty years, there's still one

1244
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 2: of the most valuable brands in the NFL. And one

1245
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: of their sources of frustration in the NFL is that

1246
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 2: you have ownership that just doesn't have the money. Now,

1247
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: the interesting thing is, despite not having the money, they

1248
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 2: spend the money. I don't know how they actually pull

1249
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: this off. But I've always said this about Mark Davis.

1250
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 2: Never underestimated the man with the bowl haircut. Okay, he's

1251
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: a pretty smart guy. That being said, trying to get

1252
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: Tom Brady into the mix, even if it's a very

1253
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 2: small share of ownership of the Raiders, where are we

1254
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: going with this, I mean, why the Raiders. I mean,

1255
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 2: we've heard Tom you know, with the Dolphins, We've heard

1256
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: a lot of But what do you think, because you

1257
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: have a little insight having played with Tom Brady, where

1258
01:08:55,680 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 2: is Tom Brady going with this in terms of buying

1259
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 2: into ownership of the Raiders?

1260
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: Well, the only thing I could say is there are

1261
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: no mistakes when it comes to Tom Brady. From a

1262
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 3: public relations standpoint, I think that certain things over the

1263
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 3: past couple of years have felt rushed, but I think

1264
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 3: I think there have been reasons behind the scenes for them,

1265
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 3: Like for example, in Tampa Bay, I think that there

1266
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 3: was a lot more going on behind the scenes in

1267
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 3: terms of a power struggle than people realize. And some

1268
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 3: of that information I was able to share, and some

1269
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 3: of the information I don't want to share because some

1270
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: of it, frankly, I've only heard from one source.

1271
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 2: As opposed to multiple.

1272
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 3: But it didn't sound like that this was the you know,

1273
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 3: the Arians left Wich situation with Tom Brady was one big,

1274
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 3: happy family, you know. So the first retirement was then

1275
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 3: followed by him unretiring and Arians immediately retiring from his

1276
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 3: role and taking on a front office position where he

1277
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 3: had no longer had power or control over the organization altogether. Right,

1278
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 3: it was basically he said at his retirement press conference

1279
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Speaker 3: that he was going to play a bunch of golf, Right,

1280
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 3: I mean, was that coincidence? A lot of people seem

1281
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 3: to believe it was, or I very least reported that

1282
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: this was one big coincidence that he unretired basically at

1283
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 3: the same time that Arians decided to retire. But to me,

1284
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 3: from what I heard and from what I understand of

1285
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 3: the situation, that wasn't a coincidence. There was animus and

1286
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 3: that that was the reason for the retirement in the

1287
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 3: first place. And then there was pressure put on ownership

1288
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 3: to make a move, and so they allowed Bruce Arians

1289
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: to save face and we saw the result. He came

1290
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 3: back and led the team to a relatively underwhelming season.

1291
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 3: But okay, say that's the last season. If that's the

1292
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 3: last season, though, does he retire by putting out a

1293
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 3: video on the beach and that's it? Like that's how

1294
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 3: this whole story ends. Now, maybe there's more to this story.

1295
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't know now this I don't know. Maybe there's

1296
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: more to this retirement story than I realize. And I'll

1297
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 3: tell you what I know, and I tell you what

1298
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know the exact reasons why

1299
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 3: he retired this time around. Maybe it's for good. Maybe

1300
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 3: what he's saying now is one hundred percent true. But Steve,

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01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 3: if you remember, just a month ago, and I believe

1302
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 3: we played the sound on this show, Tom Brady was

1303
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 3: in Miami and he was answering questions at some financial

1304
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 3: for him and somebody asked him, you know, hey, we're

1305
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 3: here in Miami, would you ever consider playing for the Dolphins?

1306
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 3: And he didn't say no, he just sort of avoided

1307
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 3: answering the question directly by saying, well, haha, you know,

1308
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 3: I have a lot of friends who play in Miami,

1309
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 3: and Miami's a great place, and I've never said the

1310
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 3: words no, I'm retired. So then for him to come

1311
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 3: out after there's reports of him becoming a minority owner

1312
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: of the Las Vegas Raiders, and by the way, at

1313
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 3: the same exact time, we find out that Jimmy g

1314
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 3: has had a pretty significant offseason surgery on his foot

1315
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,879
Speaker 3: and may or may not be available to start the season.

1316
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, now he's reiterating the fact that

1317
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 3: he's retired to everybody. It just things aren't adding up.

1318
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 3: So when things don't add up, obviously speculation occurs. And

1319
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 3: when speculation occurs, you're going to have somebody try to

1320
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 3: clean up the mess. And that's what he's trying to do.

1321
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,520
Speaker 3: But there is a reason why he's become the minority

1322
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 3: owner of the Raiders or trying to get approval, and

1323
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 3: maybe there's a reason why he's become so vocal about

1324
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 3: the fact that he's actually retired, like, for example, because

1325
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 3: he doesn't want the rest of the ownership groups to

1326
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 3: box him out from being able to play for the Raiders.

1327
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 3: If that's something he still chooses to do.

1328
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 2: By the way, I was just thinking about this. So

1329
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: he also reiterated he's looking forward to next year twenty

1330
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 2: twenty four, when he finally jumps into that thirty seven

1331
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 2: million dollar a year job as an analyst for Fox Sports.

1332
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,520
Speaker 2: But if he has a minority stake in the Raiders,

1333
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 2: how can he broadcast a Raiders game for Fox?

1334
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I don't know if the end.

1335
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's different than let's say, being a former

1336
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: coach or a former player for a team. If you

1337
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 2: actually have an ownership stake in a franchise. Yeah, and

1338
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: you're trying to broadcast the game of that franchise. I

1339
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 2: don't think he can do that.

1340
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I don't I don't know how.

1341
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: Many times the Raiders will be on you know Fox.

1342
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 2: I mean, now it's an open season. If you don't know,

1343
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 2: there really is no exclusivity anymore, AFC, NFC. They're going

1344
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 2: to be jumping all over the place. But you know, again,

1345
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: we've had former players, you know, coaches, you know, and

1346
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 2: they're doing broadcasts of teams they coached or played for.

1347
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: But that's full different than being an actual current owner

1348
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: of a team. Yeah.

1349
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 3: I mean, let's let's face it. For example, production meetings

1350
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: where you know, broadcasters who are trusted with pretty valuable

1351
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 3: and sensitive information that they're supposed to keep under their

1352
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 3: lid until game day. You know, production meetings happen all

1353
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 3: the time where broadcaster walks into one facility and then

1354
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 3: walks into the other facility and they get to sit

1355
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 3: down with the coaches or get on conference called the

1356
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 3: Fox and have discussions about scheme and even watch practices.

1357
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 3: I mean, to your point, if Tom Brady is the

1358
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 3: minority owner of the Raiders and you know, even if

1359
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 3: he's calling a Chargers game for Fox, or if he's

1360
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 3: calling a Denver Broncos game or a Chiefs game, do

1361
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 3: the Chargers or the Broncos or the Chiefs want him

1362
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,440
Speaker 3: on their practice field to observe practice?

1363
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 2: I either want.

1364
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 3: Them talking to their players in production meetings.

1365
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to think of any broadcaster they

1366
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 2: actually had an ownershi staking a team.

1367
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 3: It's a good point.

1368
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: I don't know how this is all going to play out,

1369
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 2: but anyway, for those that under want to know why

1370
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 2: I am so adamant about this, You know, Brady having

1371
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: to come clean on the tuck roll if he's going

1372
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 2: to jump in with the Raiders organization and understand it's

1373
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 2: Al Davis screaming in my ear, which he did plenty

1374
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: when I work for that man back in the day.

1375
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: All right, on the other side, we got more NFL

1376
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 2: news to get to. Could we see a big reunion

1377
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: of two very close teammates of the past. Tell you

1378
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 2: who they are. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harmon,

1379
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,879
Speaker 2: rich Ormburger, Fox Sports Sunday. We're back here in the

1380
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Red Zone, Radio tirerac dot Com Studios. So

1381
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this the other day with DeAndre Hopkins,

1382
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 2: who and I think this is a smart decision on

1383
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: his part, says he's in no hurry to make any

1384
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: final decision on where he's going to go. He's got

1385
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 2: plenty of offers out there. But a little twist in

1386
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:12,959
Speaker 2: the story was a former teammate of his, Deshaun Wattson,

1387
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 2: and obviously they had a very special connection with the

1388
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 2: Houston Texas. And I'm thinking to myself, all right, if

1389
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: you're d hop and we you know, last week we

1390
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: were talking about the Chiefs and the Bills and the

1391
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 2: Ravens and the Jets. I mean, these are now that

1392
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 2: the Jets have Aaron Rodgers, these are all teams, you know,

1393
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: firmly in contention to make a deep run of the playoffs.

1394
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: If the Cleveland Browns were to get d hop how

1395
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 2: good are the Cleveland Browns in twenty twenty three does

1396
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: he make Does he change the dynamic as far as

1397
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: the potential outlook of the season. This assuming of course,

1398
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 2: that Deshaun Watson can come back and get anywhere near

1399
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: the level he was because he really has been out

1400
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 2: for two years. I mean, he came back last year,

1401
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,839
Speaker 2: but obviously, you know, still trying to learn the offense.

1402
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,879
Speaker 2: But would de hop could he look at the Cleveland

1403
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: Browns as a team that yeah, I could join that

1404
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 2: team and they become what we call a serious playoff contender.

1405
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean, look, Deshaun Watson, if he returns

1406
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 3: to form, is one of the most dynamic quarterbacks in

1407
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1408
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:28,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1409
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's very easy to write him off

1410
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 3: because of everything that happened off the field, with the

1411
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 3: multiple sexual assault allegations, the fact that he had you know,

1412
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 3: twenty plus pending civil cases against him for this similar behavior,

1413
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 3: and then the way he played when he returned to

1414
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 3: the field after his suspension. I mean, there's a lot

1415
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 3: that's stacked up against Deshaun Watson him potentially even returning

1416
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 3: to form. But if he does well, then yeah, the

1417
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown's already with you know, Amari Cooper and David

1418
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 3: and Joku and Nick Chubb, if they all have seasons

1419
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 3: that they've portrayed in the past, you know they're good.

1420
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 3: They're hemmed up pretty tight at a lot of these

1421
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: skilled position skill positions anyways, So if you get a

1422
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 3: lot out of Deshaun Watson, he's going to get a

1423
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 3: lot out of the skill position players he has around him,

1424
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 3: and this is going to be a good season and

1425
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 3: potentially a playoff season for the Cleveland Browns, regardless of

1426
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 3: whether DeAndre Hopkins signs as a free agent to their team.

1427
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 3: If he does, and he's reunited with Deshaun Watson and

1428
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 3: he has an automatic understanding of what DeShawn wants to do,

1429
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 3: you know, in this in the scramble drill from their

1430
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: work together in Houston, and maybe can add some things,

1431
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 3: some wrinkles to the offensive playbook that worked for him

1432
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 3: and Deshaun during their time together in I mean that

1433
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 3: could only further benefit them. Look, the Cleveland Browns stand

1434
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 3: a chance to be one of the better teams in

1435
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 3: the AFC this year because again, but it all hinges

1436
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 3: on Deshaun Watson. I don't think that's gonna be the case, though, Steve,

1437
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 3: because I don't think you want if you're Hopkins, if

1438
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 3: you could get somewhere else that has a more stable

1439
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,520
Speaker 3: culture in the front office or more stable starting quarterback,

1440
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 3: why you would turn down that opportunity. So, if he's

1441
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 3: able to play for the Bills, if he's able to

1442
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 3: play for the Chiefs. If he's able to join a

1443
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 3: team that has, you know, a superstar quarterback with a

1444
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 3: firm culture in place, why would you go to the

1445
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns.

1446
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you, but you know, we threw

1447
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 2: all those teams out there last week, and from what

1448
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 2: we're hearing from those that are at least pretending to

1449
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: be in the know, there's not as much interest from

1450
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: those teams as some people expect because of how much

1451
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: it's going to cost them. In the case of several

1452
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 2: of those teams, he becomes their number three option, number

1453
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,759
Speaker 2: four option. He would not be their number one guy.

1454
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: So on the one day, I want on the other side,

1455
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: I want to save a little this because we're running

1456
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: up against the clock here at the top of the hour.

1457
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 2: But there's some other teams out there that, to me,

1458
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: would make a lot more sense. And again, when we

1459
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 2: talk about DeAndre Hopkins, understanding he's thirty years old, he's

1460
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: not a deep threat so to speak. He's a possession guy.

1461
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 2: He still obviously has a lot of value. Deshaun Watson

1462
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 2: remembers that because he knew he could throw the ball

1463
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 2: anywhere near this guy, he's going to catch the ball.

1464
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: But he's not your number one guy. I don't think

1465
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: he's that kind of player. So there's still a couple

1466
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 2: of teams I want to get to in the next

1467
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 2: hour that I think maybe actually more realistic than the

1468
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 2: bills of the Chiefs or even the Jets out there.

1469
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 2: We got that, plus we got a lot more going on.

1470
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 2: Is get ready for this NBA Finals and what about

1471
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 2: all these CoA team changes. This is a Fox Sports Sunday. Yeah,

1472
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: continue in our assault here on this Sunday, having a

1473
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,559
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Speaker 2: I want to call attention to a new affiliate that

1480
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Speaker 2: has joined us here on the Fox Sports Radio Network.

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01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 2: That would be Peoria's Sports Radio one oh one point one.

1482
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1483
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1484
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1486
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Speaker 2: Peorias Sports Radio one oh one point one. Welcome to

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1488
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Speaker 3: By the it's a big family. It's a very deranged

1489
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 3: family here on the weekends. So anybody who's listening to

1490
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 3: us for the first time in Peoria, Illinois, hit us

1491
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 3: up at Ornberger, at Cannon Hartman on Twitter. Let us

1492
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 3: know what you think, commons, questions, concerns. Use it like

1493
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 3: a suggestion box, honestly, Like you know, sometimes you have

1494
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: those in the break room at work. Anything you anything

1495
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,719
Speaker 3: you want to throw in there. You know, we're all ears.

1496
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 3: We are all ears.

1497
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: One of the things I wanted to get to was

1498
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: what's been going on with these NBA coaching firings and hirings.

1499
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: Two in particular, are just mind bloggling to me. It's

1500
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: not about the Philadelphia seventy six ers, all right. So

1501
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: you know that I've never been a huge Doc Rivers guy.

1502
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: I like him on a personal level. Everyone loves Doc,

1503
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 2: especially in the media because he's one of those guys

1504
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: that in ages of the media. So he's always been very,

1505
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: very popular with media members. Yeah, but then you start

1506
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: looking at his record, and he's lost more game sevens

1507
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 2: than any coach in history. His recording closed out games

1508
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: is horrific. He's the only coach only eight times, I believe,

1509
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 2: ever has there been a team that has blown a

1510
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 2: three to one series lead. And he's done it three times.

1511
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: I mean, think about that. I mean almost like a

1512
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 2: third of the time. Was not thirteen times, I'm sorry,

1513
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 2: thirteen times that's happened in three like a quarter of them.

1514
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: He was the coach. Another coach has ever done it

1515
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 2: more than once. So you know, he's just not a

1516
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 2: big game coach. But the idea of the Philadelphia seventy

1517
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: six ers firing him to hire Nick Nurse. I'm trying

1518
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: to figure this one out. So Nick Nurse was the

1519
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: coach of the Raptors when they won the championship. That

1520
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 2: was his first year. When a certain guy fell in

1521
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 2: his lap named Kawhi Leonard. You remember that that played out.

1522
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 2: San Antonio wanted a jettison him, so he ends up

1523
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 2: in Toronto. He was on a mission and mission accomplished.

1524
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: Since then, nothing, Yeah, so I had I mean the idea.

1525
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:19,480
Speaker 2: I've always said this about coaching firings or managerial firings.

1526
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: That's the easy part. The idea is, if you're going

1527
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: to fire somebody, you're looking for an upgrade, right, you know,

1528
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: sometimes you see it. Okay, that makes sense, Like UCLA basketball, right,

1529
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 2: Steve Alford out McK cronin in. That is a step up. Yeah,

1530
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: but hang on, how is replacing Doc Rivers with Nick

1531
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 2: Nurse a step up for the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

1532
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 3: But comparing college basketball to the pros is to me,

1533
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 3: it's it's like comparing the little league team that your

1534
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 3: son plays on or your daughter is on to college baseball.

1535
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I not to completely undermine what NBA

1536
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 3: coaches do or their importance, but they are basically political figures.

1537
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 3: You know, They're basically all they are is they are

1538
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 3: the leison from the front office to the locker room,

1539
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 3: from the locker room to the general public. They are

1540
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: the mouthpiece for the team. I was talking about this

1541
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 3: yesterday in Fox Sports Radio. You have we all have

1542
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 3: this impression of head coaches being this ultimately really important

1543
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 3: position because over the years it really has been. But

1544
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 3: that time has passed in the NBA. I mean that

1545
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 3: time is gone you know they're there. This is this

1546
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 3: is no longer what it is. Players ultimately have control

1547
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 3: of these teams. In many cases, players have control of

1548
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 3: the rosters because they can choose where they want to go,

1549
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 3: They can choose what players they want to play with.

1550
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 3: They can tamper openly. No player has ever been suspended

1551
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 3: for tampering. You know, this is one of those things

1552
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 3: where the NBA has kind of lost control of the

1553
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 3: league to its players, and it's still working because these

1554
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 3: rights deals, by the way, are still billions of dollars.

1555
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 3: So the NBA is, you know, they're not running out

1556
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 3: of advertisers who are flocking to these live broadcasts. They're

1557
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 3: not running out of networks who want to buy the

1558
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 3: rights to these live broadcasts. So everybody's still making money. Steve,

1559
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 3: But the reality of the league from a coaching standpoint

1560
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 3: is these coaches are figureheads. Doc Rivers, what has he

1561
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 3: done since the early two thousands other than choking the playoffs?

1562
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: Right?

1563
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 3: I mean, am I gonna blame Doc for that?

1564
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 2: No?

1565
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 3: Doc was actually coaching back then. Now, he was fortunate

1566
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 3: enough to have Kevin excuse me, KG, Kevin Garnett, Ray

1567
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 3: Allen and Paul Pierce. So I mean that team, that

1568
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 3: team had enough dogs on the court to get the

1569
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 3: job done. But I mean he's had opportunities in the

1570
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 3: most recent of past with stars all over the court

1571
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 3: and hasn't been able to do it. Why does he

1572
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 3: get recycled? Because Doc is a great figurehead. Doc knows

1573
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 3: how to handle the media. Doc has been doing this

1574
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 3: for a long time. His name still has recognition to

1575
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 3: help a team deal with crisis or deal with the

1576
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 3: good times with the bad times. But Doc isn't sitting

1577
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 3: there coaching guys up anymore. That time has passed. That

1578
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 3: time has passed. So why do these guys like Nick

1579
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 3: Nurse or Frank Vogel or Doc Rivers or you name it.

1580
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 3: Why did they get you know, recycled and scoop up

1581
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,480
Speaker 3: new head coaching to Monty Williams.

1582
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 2: Well MANNI, let's stop there with Monty Williams. So Monty

1583
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: Williams didn't just get another job, He got a seventy

1584
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: eight and a half million dollar contract seventy eight and

1585
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 2: a half million dollar contract over six years in the

1586
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,040
Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons. By the way, the Pistons have one a

1587
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: playoff series since two thousand and eight. Yeah, I mean

1588
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 2: this is real after you know. I mean, they had

1589
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: a tremendous run for many years.

1590
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 3: Why did he get all that money?

1591
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 2: Well, he got that money because he asked for all

1592
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 2: that money. In other words, why would he be interested

1593
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: in the business job? They contact him and he's like, okay,

1594
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: well make it worth my while. We will seventy eight

1595
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 2: and a half million dollars over six years for a coach.

1596
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1597
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 2: Is he going to upgrade that roster? That's going to

1598
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 2: be interesting. I mean, I don't know what the Pistons

1599
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 2: are hoping for. This was a team that was seventeen

1600
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 2: and sixty five this year, seventeen and sixty five and

1601
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: they didn't get the number one overall pick in the draft.

1602
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 2: So lot. No, I mean, I don't know anything what

1603
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 2: they're hoping for here. But my guess is they're not

1604
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 2: going to get their return on that kind of money.

1605
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 3: Well, well here's the deal. The amount of money. I

1606
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 3: think that's kind of an arbitrary debate because the amount

1607
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 3: of money that they're making off of these these rights deals.

1608
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 3: It's not like the ownership in and Detroit is throwing

1609
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 3: a going out of business sale. I mean, they still

1610
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 3: sell concessions. They still sell gate for forty plus games

1611
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 3: a year. They still get their share of the revenue

1612
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 3: pie from these broadcast network deals like the Detroit Pistons

1613
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 3: ownership group, they can spend that money because they make

1614
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 3: boatloads of cash back. The reason why they had to

1615
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 3: pay money Williams that amount of money is because Money

1616
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 3: Williams now no offense to the city of Detroit. He

1617
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 3: has to go live in Detroit. Like there's not a

1618
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,520
Speaker 3: lot of free agents who want to sign in Detroit.

1619
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of coaches who want to play

1620
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 3: in Detroit. When you can play in Miami South Beach,

1621
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 3: when you can play in New York in multiple spots

1622
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 3: Brooklyn or Madison Square Garden, where you can go to

1623
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 3: LA multiple spots in LA. The Clippers are building a

1624
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 3: new arena Staples or now Crypto dot Com Arena. You

1625
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 3: know there are other places that are better and more

1626
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 3: traditionally well established in bigger cities like Chicago. The reason

1627
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 3: why Monty Williams got that contract is because he's going

1628
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 3: to coach in Detroit. Now, they could have gotten some

1629
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,679
Speaker 3: also ram, but they wanted a playoff coach. They wanted

1630
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 3: somebody who maybe could help them lure some free agents,

1631
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 3: and coaching is a part of the conversation. Who's gonna

1632
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 3: be your coach when you sign with the Destination if

1633
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 3: they're looking to rebuild here with Monty Williams. Okay, I

1634
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 3: get it, but it is a figurehead position. It's not

1635
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 3: like he's rolling up his sleeves and he's getting the

1636
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 3: you know, the half court whiteboard out and he's still

1637
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 3: gonna be the reason why the Pistons have success. Like

1638
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 3: you just said, Steve, the only way the Pistons have success.

1639
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 3: It almost has nothing to do with who their head coaches.

1640
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 3: It's if they can lure good enough players or draft

1641
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 3: good enough players to come to their program.

1642
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 2: All right. On the other side, I want to get

1643
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 2: back to a couple other NBA stories, sort of a

1644
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:58,879
Speaker 2: crossroads for two NBA All Stars. What is their future

1645
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 2: look like? I'll tell you who they are. This is

1646
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:07,759
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Harnberger, Fox Sports Sunday.

1647
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 2: We're live from the Tiraq dot Com studios, getting ready

1648
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 2: for Game two of the NBA Finals and now between

1649
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:16,879
Speaker 2: the Nuggets and the Heat. Heat looking for some answers,

1650
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how they can knock down. And

1651
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm reminded again we got a one seed versus an eight,

1652
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 2: So one versus an eight, all right, So on paper

1653
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 2: it didn't look good going in Game one. Didn't change

1654
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 2: anybody's mind, But there are other big NBA stories that

1655
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 2: are lurking right now. I'm going to get to two

1656
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 2: All Stars and what their immediate future is. Adam Silver,

1657
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 2: commissioner of the NBAS said a decision of discipline of

1658
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 2: Jah Morant will come after the NBA Finals. So this

1659
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 2: is the second time now that he has been on

1660
01:31:55,000 --> 01:32:00,040
Speaker 2: tape brandishing a weapon a gun, and first time he

1661
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 2: was suspended for eight games. A lot of people thought

1662
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 2: that was a little light. I'm hearing rich that the

1663
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 2: NBA is really going to drop the hammer now again.

1664
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 2: The Union will come after them with everything they got.

1665
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 2: But the number I'm hearing fifty fifty five to zero

1666
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 2: fifty game suspension. That doesn't mean he's going to serve

1667
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 2: a fifty game suspension. But the NBA has got to

1668
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 2: figure out a way because he hasn't been arrested for anything.

1669
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 2: He hasn't been arrested for anything, right, but this is

1670
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 2: under that conduct detrimental to the league clause that's in

1671
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 2: everybody's contract in every sport. Does that seem a little

1672
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 2: harsh or how do you stop this? Because again we're

1673
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 2: talking about a young player. You and I have Bengaga

1674
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 2: all over Ja Morant the last few years. You see

1675
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 2: this guy in the court and he brings that level

1676
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: of excitement that honestly, he doesn't have a lot of

1677
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 2: peers currently in the NBA that bring that kind of

1678
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 2: game to the court. Yeah, so he's a very valuable

1679
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 2: piece to the NBA, But if he can't correct his

1680
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 2: behavior off the court, well you're going to have to

1681
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 2: do something harsh tough. Love fifty games too much?

1682
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 3: No, it's not too much, but I don't think it's

1683
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 3: I don't think it's enough, but not in terms of

1684
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 3: how many games he gets suspended for. I think he

1685
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 3: needs to, and I've said this many times over the

1686
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 3: past month, get in front of the people who are

1687
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 3: most affected by his behavior. I think there's a disattachment

1688
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 3: that a lot of especially young superstars have with who

1689
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 3: exactly they're impacting, because you know, you become an adult

1690
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 3: and you lose sight of what it means and what

1691
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 3: it is to be a kid. I remember when I

1692
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 3: was a kid, And I have a lot easier time

1693
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 3: remembering when I was a kid because I'm seeing the

1694
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 3: world through the eyes of my young children now looking

1695
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 3: up to sports stars and loving you know, Michael Jordan.

1696
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 3: I didn't even know Michael Jordan personally. I didn't need to.

1697
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 3: I just saw how passionate and how great he was

1698
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 3: about basketball, and I wanted to I wanted to do that.

1699
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 3: You know, I looked up. I mean, I'm there. I'm

1700
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 3: sure there were times during my childhood where I looked

1701
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 3: up to Michael Jordan more than I looked up to

1702
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 3: my own father, because your dad can't do that. That

1703
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 3: man can fly, you know. So there's something to it, man,

1704
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 3: about connecting a person who's struggling in his own life

1705
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 3: with bad decisions back to who he's impacting the most.

1706
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 3: I think this, I think this guy should be forced

1707
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,520
Speaker 3: to speak in front of kids about the dangers of

1708
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 3: of of guns. I think I think I think he

1709
01:34:55,720 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 3: should become a poster child for gun safety. I think

1710
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 3: he should become you know, the reason why teenagers turn

1711
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 3: away from you know, gang life or or or messing

1712
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 3: with messing with with gun violence, because because then it's

1713
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 3: going to connect him back to the problem here, which

1714
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 3: is his influence over another generation, a next generation. Suspension

1715
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 3: is great, and like I'm all for him being penalized.

1716
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 3: I think that's appropriate. Whatever length of suspension ends up being,

1717
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 3: I think it's I mean, the NBA will legislate it.

1718
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 3: I mean, unless it's something absurd, like I don't. I

1719
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 3: don't necessarily know if a full season if if that's

1720
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 3: something that they should investigate. But but the most important thing,

1721
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 3: I think the biggest learning lesson would be to somehow

1722
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 3: connect him back to the people who he's most influential

1723
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 3: to well.

1724
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 2: And again, after the first suspension, he came back remorseful, right,

1725
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he admitted he had done something he should

1726
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 2: not have done. And then of course no help of

1727
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 2: his friend who was rolling the camera when he still

1728
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 2: had a gun in his lap. You know, maybe maybe

1729
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 2: he should change the group of people you're hanging around with.

1730
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 2: But again, he hasn't broken any laws. He hasn't been

1731
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 2: arreested for anything. But that is going to be a

1732
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 2: big thing because the NBA knows Jean Moran's a valuable

1733
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle. That is a guy that is

1734
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 2: marketable to this league. But he's not markable. If he's

1735
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 2: only known for brandishing a gun, that's we want. We

1736
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 2: want the focus on what he does on the court

1737
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 2: and what he's not doing off the court. All right,

1738
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 2: Another All Star I want to get to, Yeah, Jaylen Brown?

1739
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 3: All right?

1740
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:50,640
Speaker 2: So the Boston Celtics built their current team really around

1741
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 2: two center pieces. Ironically, back to back years they had

1742
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 2: the third overall pick in the draft. One year they

1743
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 2: take Jalen Brown and the next year they take Jason Tatum,

1744
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 2: and they build around these two guys the six years

1745
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 2: they have been together. Jalen Brown came in a year before,

1746
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 2: but the six years they've been together, they've been to

1747
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference Finals five times, but they've only made

1748
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 2: it to the finals once, and they have yet to

1749
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 2: win a championship. Jalen Brown is twenty six, Jason Tatum

1750
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 2: is twenty five. But there are a lot of people

1751
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 2: rumbling rich that say it's not working. We got to

1752
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 2: separate these two. This duo is not the duo that

1753
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 2: can take you all the way to win a championship.

1754
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, obviously, if you were to trade him, would

1755
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 2: have tremendous market value, no question, he is. First of all,

1756
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown is not just a really good player, He's

1757
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 2: an impressive individual. Like this is the guy that when

1758
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 2: he was a col that one and done year talking

1759
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 2: about learning five languages by the time he's twenty five.

1760
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 2: He's impressive, very impressive. So Jalen Brown is sort of

1761
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 2: a cross and then you feel the frustration. Now, look,

1762
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 2: you can go back to game seven this recent series

1763
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 2: against the Heat right and there goes Jason tatumy rolls

1764
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,600
Speaker 2: his ankle right at the start of the game. So

1765
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 2: this was a golden opportunity for Jalen Brown to say,

1766
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:21,759
Speaker 2: you know what, Jason, I got it and he didn't deliver. Yeah,

1767
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 2: so maybe he's not a one, maybe he's a two.

1768
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that. A lot of all NBA players

1769
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 2: that are twos and not ones. But if you're the

1770
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics right now, do you pull the chord on

1771
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 2: this one? I mean, you can obviously get great market

1772
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 2: value for a guy like Jalen Brown. Do you pull

1773
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 2: the cord and say we're going to try something new

1774
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 2: or do you just say, look, it's just a matter

1775
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 2: of time before this team ends up winning a championship.

1776
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 3: It's the only way you do that is if it's

1777
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 3: completely untenable, right, you know, the only way you break

1778
01:38:56,520 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 3: up this group is if like they can't p possibly

1779
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 3: play with each other another single second, Like if this

1780
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 3: is I mean, think about how long Shaq and Kobe

1781
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,799
Speaker 3: could not stand each other and they kept it together

1782
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 3: to win championships, right, you just have to. So whether

1783
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 3: you're Brad Stevens, who's the president of basketball operations, or

1784
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 3: you're Joe Mizzoula, or you're the owner of the Celtics,

1785
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 3: or anybody in this organization a teammate of theirs. That's

1786
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 3: something that a lot of people don't think about when

1787
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 3: they think about some of these these great teams, Like

1788
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 3: i'm I'm if you've ever heard, you know, Chris Bosh

1789
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 3: talk about his time in Miami. You know, he really

1790
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 3: had to be third wheel to Wade and Lebron, and

1791
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 3: you know, he understood the importance of serving a role.

1792
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 3: He understood the importance of keeping these two superstars together.

1793
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 3: He himself was a superstar, but you know, there's only

1794
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 3: one basketball and somebody had to take the l somebody

1795
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 3: had to take the back seat a little bit, and

1796
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 3: that became his role. So these other teammates of Brown

1797
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 3: and Tatum are equally important to try to keep the

1798
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 3: band together because this could be their ticket, you know,

1799
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 3: to going to the finals every year. Now, you'll win

1800
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 3: one eventually, you gotta, I mean, the percentage of odds

1801
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 3: are in your favor that you're gonna get to the finals,

1802
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 3: enough for the Eastern Conference finals enough, eventually you're gonna

1803
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 3: net a championship here. At some point, You've got to

1804
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 3: find a way to keep this band together. So whether

1805
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 3: or not Brown and Tatum like each other is almost

1806
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 3: beside the point. They play unbelievable basketball together. They're both superstars. Now, however,

1807
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 3: you got to balance it out, whether Tatum's one or

1808
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 3: Brown's one or you know, I mean, look what they

1809
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:47,719
Speaker 3: both equally have had off nights and good nights throughout

1810
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 3: this postseason run. They're both I think equally guilty as

1811
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 3: well as Joe Mizzula and the rest of the Celtics

1812
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 3: cast of characters. You know, they bear equal blame. I

1813
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 3: don't see anyone really out there thinking out loud or

1814
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 3: dominating while the other one really struggled throughout the more

1815
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 3: majority of this postseason. I both think I think they

1816
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 3: both shined I think they both struggled at times. But

1817
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 3: the last thing you should do is hit the reset

1818
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 3: button and blow this thing up or trade one of

1819
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 3: them away until you're absolutely positive you must well don't

1820
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 3: think they're there yet.

1821
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,759
Speaker 2: Well here's the deal though, because he has an expiring

1822
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 2: contract and because he made second team All NBA, he's

1823
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 2: in line to get a super Max deal.

1824
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 3: Supermax deal, Yeah, cost money to win championship, three hundred

1825
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 3: million dollar deal.

1826
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 2: And it's funny because as good as he is, and

1827
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 2: he's been getting better now, I mean he's on an

1828
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 2: upward trajectory in terms of his numbers. There's a lot

1829
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 2: of people in Boston. I'm reading all over the place saying,

1830
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 2: don't do it, Boston, don't give him a Supermax deal,

1831
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 2: which is crazy to me, right, I mean, why not?

1832
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:57,839
Speaker 2: But there's there's just this, there's a frustration in Boston

1833
01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 2: because they're about winning championships that the Lakers anything less

1834
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 2: than a championship is considered a failure. So the idea

1835
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,759
Speaker 2: that you've been to the Eastern Conference finals five times

1836
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 2: in these six years means nothing. Yeah, you know, where

1837
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: are the championships? So it's gonna be a very interesting deal.

1838
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 2: But that's that's where they are because after next year

1839
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 2: he has an expiring contract and he could just walk

1840
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:22,640
Speaker 2: and if you give him a super max deal and

1841
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 2: then he's not going anywhere. So uh some interesting, uh

1842
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 2: you know, interesting side notes around the NBA, especially with

1843
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown and as we mentioned earlier, with a jap

1844
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:34,280
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1849
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Speaker 2: that knows what's trending right now. That would be Nick Cope.

1850
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 2: And Nick, by the way, uh you know Nick is

1851
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: a big UCLA broadcaster, rich you know that? Oh, yes,

1852
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 2: of course, So I love to catch up a mice

1853
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 2: school with Nick. Yes, yes, And we are talking about

1854
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 2: all these international recruits at the basketball team, which pretty

1855
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 2: much gutted the entire team although a den Bona didn't

1856
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 2: come back. Yeah, yeah, that was huge getting a den

1857
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Bona back. Imagine what kind of nil deal they got

1858
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 2: him to make sure he came back Yeah, I wonder

1859
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:23,560
Speaker 2: if what's going on in U C.

1860
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 3: L A.

1861
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 6: You're gonna see maybe a trend here over these next

1862
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 6: few years as NIL does take over and become a

1863
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 6: big thing. If you have access to the international market

1864
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 6: for recruits, you got a lot less to deal with

1865
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 6: with all the NIL stuff in the international Well, how

1866
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 6: does L you here in the state?

1867
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,719
Speaker 2: So you we were talking about this rich about these

1868
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 2: NIL deals for these international players. Oh yeah, is it

1869
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 2: the same or Nick? Did you get any how does

1870
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 2: that work with NI? L?

1871
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:58,719
Speaker 3: Well? I mean the clarity of the situation is coming

1872
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 3: in the in the years to follow. Like it's really

1873
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 3: ran state to state. So depending on the state you

1874
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 3: live in, there are different rules. So whether you're in

1875
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 3: Alabama versus Californiafornia, they're going to be different NIL rules.

1876
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 3: There's not a tremendous amount of federal regulation and the

1877
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 3: guardrails really haven't been put up yet, So I don't

1878
01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 3: think outside of maybe the governing or the government from

1879
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 3: the country an international player comes from. There's many restrictions

1880
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 3: placed on or different restrictions placed on loring an international

1881
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 3: player via NIL money.

1882
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 2: To a school. Yeah.

1883
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 6: I just pulled this up from Sports Business Journal back

1884
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 6: in January. Nil activity is not explicitly permitted or prohibited

1885
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 6: by law or by you know, an F one student.

1886
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 6: That's the visa that most of these kids have. So

1887
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 6: how much will eleemb.

1888
01:44:58,240 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 2: I love that?

1889
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 6: That's a French kid coming to UCLA for everybody A

1890
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 6: name probably the UCLA's got three international guys and there's

1891
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 6: a fourth one out there, the two B name that

1892
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 6: it sounds like the Bruins are going to bring in

1893
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 6: as well. That's that's a big turn for UCLA. But

1894
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 6: they brought in an assistant coach who is from Serbia Originally.

1895
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 6: He's got ties to all sorts of international players in

1896
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 6: Europe and they've dipped into that market.

1897
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 2: Now it's gonna be interesting. They're gonna have like eight

1898
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 2: new players next year after that. Speaking English? Ye right,

1899
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 2: all right.

1900
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 6: Game two of the NBA Finals tonight, the Heat and

1901
01:45:37,560 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 6: the Nuggets eight Eastern Denver with the one to zero

1902
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 6: series lead Miami's Caleb Martin. He is questionable to play

1903
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 6: due to illness. Lots of baseball going on right now.

1904
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 6: One final already, with the Pirates beating the Cardinals earlier.

1905
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 6: That was a game that started. They got eleven am

1906
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 6: local time in Pittsburgh. Games going on right now. Brewers

1907
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 6: have been in command throughout against the Reds five to one.

1908
01:45:58,640 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 3: The lead there.

1909
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 6: Andrew montic Stereo hit his first career home run back

1910
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 6: in the first inning. Kyle Schwarber just hit a three

1911
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 6: run homer for Philly. They've got a five to one

1912
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,520
Speaker 6: lead on the Nationals in the seventh. Blue Jays continuing

1913
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 6: to lead the Mets. That one is now four to two.

1914
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 6: In the sixth inning. Vlad Guerrero Junior has homer today.

1915
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:19,839
Speaker 6: A's and Marlins tied at five at the seventh inning stretch,

1916
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 6: raised the best team in baseball on top of the

1917
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 6: Red Sox six to two. Other games, Angels and Astros

1918
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,560
Speaker 6: tied to one in the six, Guardians and Twins still scoreless.

1919
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 6: They're all the way into the sixth inning. Royals leading

1920
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 6: the Rockies one to nothing in the top of the six.

1921
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 6: They have just entered a rain delay in Kansas City.

1922
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 6: Tigers two to one on top of the White Sox

1923
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 6: in the sixth inning in Chicago, and so far the

1924
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 6: Rangers are shutting out the Mariners four to nothing. That

1925
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 6: one is in the third French Open. Novak Djokovic and

1926
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 6: Carlos Alcarez each won their matches in straight sets. Both

1927
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 6: guys now into the quarterfinals. If they can reach in

1928
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:57,719
Speaker 6: the semis, that is going to set up a huge

1929
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 6: matchup there at Roland Garros Golf at the Memorial Tournament.

1930
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 6: It is Denny McCarthy who is leading at eight under.

1931
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 6: He's got a two shot lead on Scotti Scheffler, who

1932
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 6: is now in the clubhouse. McCarthy still has more than

1933
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 6: half his round to go and a Formula one max

1934
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,000
Speaker 6: for Staffan won the Spanish Grand Prix.

1935
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Hi, Nick, Thank you very much.

1936
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Speaker 2: Check in with you a little bit later on Oh

1937
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 2: by the way, Rich, Yeah, Hard Knocks the Lions were

1938
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 2: a hit. Yeah, I mean that that was I'll be

1939
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:30,719
Speaker 2: honest with you. That was the last, well the first

1940
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 2: time in quite a while that I actually got into

1941
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 2: watching Hard Knocks. Maybe know when the series first came out,

1942
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 2: of course, like I was like everybody watching everybody, but eh,

1943
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 2: you know, they had several years where things were just

1944
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 2: nothing was happening. There is a formula in which they

1945
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 2: go about choosing teams and apparently there are four eligible

1946
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 2: teams for Hard Knocks. Yeah, so these are the four teams,

1947
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 2: and they haven't chosen yet. So here are your four choices.

1948
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:08,760
Speaker 2: The obvious choice is the Jets, right, that would be

1949
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:12,799
Speaker 2: your That would be your number one. The other teams

1950
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:19,600
Speaker 2: are the Bears, the Saints, and the Commanders. Okay, so

1951
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 2: the Jets, the Bears, the Saints, and the Commanders. Now

1952
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 2: the Bears have pretty much told them we're not interested.

1953
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 3: Right, so they're out, which thank goodness.

1954
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, the Jets are the obvious choice. So

1955
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 2: if you're the Jets organism. And by the way, speaking

1956
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 2: of hard knocks, I told you the only time I

1957
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 2: ever went on the road to cover a hard knocks

1958
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 2: team was the Jets, way back in the day when

1959
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 2: Rex Ryan was still the coach. I went out there

1960
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:55,759
Speaker 2: with my buddy Victor Brick. I told you Joe Namath

1961
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 2: came by to sit with us. We were out at

1962
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere. You know what was that?

1963
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 2: That was the name of the junior college wherever they trained,

1964
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 2: middle of New York, near Cornell, And Joe Namath came

1965
01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 2: to our table to do an interview, okay, and he

1966
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 2: was wearing his Super Bowl three ring, so he actually

1967
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 2: had the Super Bowl ring on and I don't know

1968
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 2: of all of our listeners are familiar with Vic the Brick.

1969
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 2: If you're not look him up you'll know him anyway.

1970
01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:28,640
Speaker 2: H Vic who is a big Jets fan growing up

1971
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,640
Speaker 2: New York kid. I mean, I mean he's sitting with

1972
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 2: God literally yeah, with Joe Namath and Joe couldn't be nice.

1973
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:42,680
Speaker 2: He's just freaking out. And he grabs Joe's hand, the

1974
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:44,960
Speaker 2: one with the ring on it, and he starts to

1975
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 2: pull it toward him, like I need to kiss the ring. No,

1976
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 2: and Joe jerked his hand away like all right, who

1977
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 2: are you and why are you grabbing my hand? And

1978
01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like okay, could you make things anymore uncomfortable?

1979
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 2: But if you were trying to sell the Jets on, well,

1980
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 2: if you're the Jets, yeah, with the Aaron Rodgers commotion

1981
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 2: and everything else, do you want the cameras rolling with

1982
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 2: hard knocks?

1983
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 3: Well, if I'm the Jets, probably not, Although I will

1984
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 3: say this what it did for the lines, it'll do

1985
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 3: occasionally for a team like Actually, the Jets had this

1986
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 3: when Rex Ryan was a head coach. They had a

1987
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 3: really interesting offseason that year, if you remember, I believe

1988
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 3: Lombardi was their general manager, and it was Rex Ryan

1989
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 3: as a head coach, and they had the Darrell Reevas

1990
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:42,640
Speaker 3: negotiations going on where he was refusing to appear on

1991
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:46,799
Speaker 3: camera and they had that upstate New York diner meeting

1992
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 3: with the agent. And Rex Ryan was a character because

1993
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 3: he's trying to he's trying to lose weight, and you know,

1994
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 3: the whole coaching staff is you know talking, I mean

1995
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:02,240
Speaker 3: like it. There were Dan Woodhead made his appearance and

1996
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:07,679
Speaker 3: I think maybe even solidified his his his his name

1997
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 3: as a you know, potential free agent signing after he

1998
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:13,600
Speaker 3: was cut by the Jets. You know, there were a

1999
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 3: lot of interesting things that happened on that show this

2000
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 3: that year that I think we're actually beneficial for the

2001
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 3: New York Jets, Mark Sanchez and the rest Courtland New York.

2002
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:27,759
Speaker 3: By the way, that's yeah, I think it actually was helpful.

2003
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:29,799
Speaker 3: I think it was helpful. I think for the Detroit

2004
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 3: Lions it was helpful. I think, you know, there are

2005
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:34,400
Speaker 3: plenty of teams where it's not like I think the

2006
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:38,640
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams it wasn't helpful because I think it

2007
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 3: may I think there were a lot there are a

2008
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 3: lot of people who are teasing Jared Goff. It did

2009
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 3: him though favors because they made him seem or appear

2010
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 3: like a like completely brain dead. I mean, I don't

2011
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 3: think it was favorable for that coach either. I think

2012
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 3: there are times where it's good in times where it's bad.

2013
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 3: Now here's what I will say. If you're gonna have

2014
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:05,840
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers in front of a film crew, you can't

2015
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 3: control Aaron Rodgers. You can't control what he's gonna say.

2016
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 3: You can't control how much he's gonna how much time

2017
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 3: he's gonna spend with them. There's nobody in that organization

2018
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 3: who's gonna be able to tell Aaron how to handle

2019
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 3: himself on hard knocks. I'm just very curious if they

2020
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,480
Speaker 3: are the selected team for this year's.

2021
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 2: I don't think they are, in fact. And let's can

2022
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 2: we eliminate the Commanders as well? Yeah, because you have

2023
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 2: no ownership? Yeah, I mean that that that place is

2024
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 2: a mess. I can only imagine Ron Rivera sayt uh

2025
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 2: uh well yeah, which would leave you with the Saints. Yeah.

2026
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that's it's either the Jets

2027
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 3: or nothing. I really, honestly, I mean, I'm not saying

2028
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 3: that I won't watch a single episode every year. I

2029
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 3: give it a shot. Last year I watched all of

2030
01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:57,640
Speaker 3: them because, like you said, and I think like a

2031
01:52:57,640 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 3: lot of people felt the Detroit Lion they were interesting.

2032
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Dan Campbell made him interesting.

2033
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and that's the thing you need to have

2034
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:10,200
Speaker 3: somebody who's Dennis all Well not really. Have you ever

2035
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 3: heard him to speak at the press conferences? Yeah, he's

2036
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, what he reminds me of

2037
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 3: is like a strict history teacher. You know, he's very

2038
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 3: matter of fact. He's going to talk to talk your

2039
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,800
Speaker 3: ear off about, you know, maybe some of the more

2040
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 3: boring stuff. He's going to play his hand close to

2041
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 3: his vest on all the other stuff, which I mean, granted,

2042
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 3: that's what you're paying a head coach to do is

2043
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 3: talk ball. And he is highly respected in the field.

2044
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 3: And you know they're I mean clearly they've they've seen

2045
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 3: something in him. He's been with this franchise now for

2046
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 3: a while and they've elevated him to head coach and

2047
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 3: they could have gone after somebody else, but they like

2048
01:53:49,800 --> 01:53:52,639
Speaker 3: what he's doing. So he's going to remain in the chair.

2049
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 3: And I would assume it's going to be very dependent

2050
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:57,479
Speaker 3: on what happens this year with Derek Carr with a

2051
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 3: top five defense. We'll see. But but yeah, no, the Saints. Look,

2052
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 3: the draw is Robert Sala, who is a charismatic guy.

2053
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 3: He's got riz. It's Aaron Rodgers.

2054
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 2: No, it's an obvious choice of the Jets. I mean,

2055
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,680
Speaker 2: you guys don't want to see how this is going

2056
01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 2: to come together with Aaron Rodgers.

2057
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's gotta be the Jets. And if

2058
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:25,839
Speaker 3: it isn't, I mean, good luck HBO, good luck NFL

2059
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,719
Speaker 3: for hard knocks, because I just don't see it being

2060
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 3: of those four teams. If you're just giving me those

2061
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 3: four choices, it's got to be the Jets.

2062
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 2: By the way, this offseason for the NFL, and it's

2063
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 2: a constantly evolving league. It's like constantly evolving world. Some

2064
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 2: changes are being made in preparation for a new season.

2065
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 2: We'll explain what's going on around the NFL. By the way, Personally,

2066
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 2: I think it's a great idea. We'll see what you

2067
01:54:57,440 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 2: have to think. This is Fox Sports, Steve Harmon, rich Ornberger.

2068
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, and we are live from

2069
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 2: the Tire Rack dot Com Studios. I'm just sharing a

2070
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 2: story with Nick Cope. I've been known to share stories.

2071
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's shocking. I can't believe the gentleman who you

2072
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 3: know is new to the cast of characters here on

2073
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 3: a Sunday morning, you you wandered into and shared a

2074
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 3: story with That's that shocking.

2075
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, of all the stories I've shared with you,

2076
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:38,600
Speaker 2: how many are you actually interested in?

2077
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't have a tricentage, you know, I

2078
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 3: mean book, I mean zero. It's higher than zero. It's

2079
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:52,879
Speaker 3: higher than zero. I can't say it's more than twelve percent.

2080
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 3: I don't mean.

2081
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 2: I mean if I'm gonna I try, I try. I

2082
01:55:56,680 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 2: try to tell a good story. I'm decent with telling stories.

2083
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:03,960
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about this. So we were

2084
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 2: talking yesterday to Adam Kaplan about this offseason. You know,

2085
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:10,880
Speaker 2: you got the OTA's going on right now and that,

2086
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 2: but he was telling us that he's got a lot

2087
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 2: of these you know, during training camp many times you

2088
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 2: have where you have these controlled joint practices, right or

2089
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 2: scrimmages as we often have. And apparently the game plan

2090
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 2: now as eventually we're going to see the complete abolition

2091
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 2: of preseason football games. That is definitely coming down the road,

2092
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 2: the idea of these scrimmages that could actually start happening

2093
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 2: in July, because nowadays, you know, you think about training

2094
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 2: camp unless you're in the Hall of Fame game, you

2095
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:51,560
Speaker 2: really aren't going to camp until like the beginning of August.

2096
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 2: Right now, they're minimizing it as much as they can.

2097
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 2: But when we talk about these, you know, these controlled

2098
01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 2: scrimmages which we've obviously seen and you participated in, can

2099
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 2: you get as much or even more out of them

2100
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,360
Speaker 2: than participation in preseason football games.

2101
01:57:10,920 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, participating in a scrimmage allows you to

2102
01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 3: work on specific situations that you want to get to

2103
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 3: that may not come up in preseason games. Like over

2104
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 3: the course of the preseason, how many opportunities are you

2105
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 3: going to be able to work on your goal line packages? Well,

2106
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 3: if you're working against a opponent wearing different color jersey,

2107
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 3: you know, say the Thursday before or you know, usually

2108
01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 3: preseason games are played on Thursdays, but'd say like the

2109
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 3: Monday before Thursday preseason game, maybe you could take six

2110
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 3: or seven live goal line reps where you're protecting your

2111
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 3: quarterback so he's not going to get hit by you know,

2112
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 3: some over eager defensive end or linebacker or something like that,

2113
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 3: you know, wearing the red jersey where you could get

2114
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 3: six or seven, Like real live goal line looks to

2115
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 3: really work on some stuff. You know, how about this,

2116
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 3: Like there are certain special teams moments that may come

2117
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 3: up over the course of the season that practicing against

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Speaker 3: your own team, maybe you're not getting as much out

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Speaker 3: of it as if you're able to, you know, set

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01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 3: up a special team's scenario during uh, during a practice

2121
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:28,560
Speaker 3: scrimmage that you want to see live. You want to

2122
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 3: see how your players react live. Like, there's a lot

2123
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 3: you can get out of a practice that you can't

2124
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 3: necessarily get out of a game. And there's a lot

2125
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:38,879
Speaker 3: of ways that you can protect your players from injury

2126
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 3: during a practice that you can't get out of a game.

2127
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:45,880
Speaker 3: Because again, remember these season ticket holders, they have to

2128
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,960
Speaker 3: buy the preseason too, so if they're going to go

2129
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 3: to a preseason game, they're not going to see a scrimmage,

2130
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 3: They're going to see an actual game. And so you

2131
01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta tackle, You got to allow quarterbacks to

2132
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 3: be sacked. And you know, like we know a lot

2133
01:58:59,920 --> 01:59:02,560
Speaker 3: of teams they won't even allow their starting quarterback to

2134
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:05,960
Speaker 3: play in a single preseason game anymore, because what you

2135
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 3: potentially risk versus what you're potentially rewarded with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I again, I've never understood preseason football never. I mean,

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01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 2: how many preseason football games did you play in high school?

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01:59:19,680 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

2139
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 2: Zero? How about at Penn State? How many preseason games

2140
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 2: did you play at Penn State?

2141
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 3: Well, I guess in high school and at Penn State,

2142
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 3: I'm also discounting, you know, scrimmages that we had.

2143
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:34,120
Speaker 2: Like okay, but that's my point in other words, that

2144
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:37,280
Speaker 2: look at now, And it just came out with an

2145
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,839
Speaker 2: announcement the Colts are going to be welcoming the Bears

2146
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 2: in and they're going to travel to Philadelphia to take

2147
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:45,400
Speaker 2: on the Eagles. At the very least, it breaks up

2148
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 2: the monotony of you know, hitting your own teammates in practice.

2149
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 2: You know, you can level off against somebody else. But this,

2150
01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 2: this is where we're evolving to. And once we go

2151
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 2: to an eighteen game schedule, which will be soon, folks,

2152
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:03,000
Speaker 2: and believing they're gonna spread eighteen games over twenty weeks,

2153
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 2: not nineteen weeks. It'll be twenty weeks. Two buys for

2154
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Speaker 2: everybody else that'll be in the end of it. Maybe

2155
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 2: you'll have the ceremonial Hall of Fame game. Two teams

2156
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 2: play one game. That'll be the extent of it.

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Speaker 3: Well, the pandemic, I mean we learn that the preseason

2158
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 3: is an ass. Sorry to have a regular season.

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02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't look a whole lot different did and once

2160
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 2: the season began really didn't. I mean he didn't miss much.

2161
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean teams that usually struggles struggled, those that didn't didn't.

2162
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 2: And so yeah, and that's good news. I mean the

2163
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Speaker 2: idea of the fans have been able to or have

2164
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:38,080
Speaker 2: been forced to fork over money for those games. We

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Speaker 2: get ready for Game two of the NBA Finals coming

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Speaker 2: up next, Yes, four hours away tip off Game two

2167
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Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals. Denver Nuggets looking to go up too.

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Speaker 2: Oh remember they haven't lost a home game yet in

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Speaker 2: this postseason. The Miami Heat looking for answers to even

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Speaker 2: again in this I want to acknowledge a new affiliate

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio out of Peoria, Illinois. That

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Speaker 2: would be Peoria's Sports Radio one oh one point one.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the FSR family. They're Chicago White Sox Radio

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Speaker 2: Network affiliate program director Scott Heckethorne. He said, dump that

2180
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Speaker 2: other network. We want to go to Fox Sports. Smart move.

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Speaker 2: Big win for them, big win for us. So welcome

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Speaker 2: to the FSR family, Peorias Sports Radio one oh one

2183
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Speaker 2: point one. By the way, Rich on your Saturday show,

2184
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah uh, you guys hit the road quite a bit

2185
02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:50,840
Speaker 2: this past year, did you not.

2186
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got around. We're in Cincinnati. We went down

2187
02:01:55,120 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 3: to Louisiana, different sports books around the United States, getting

2188
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:05,840
Speaker 3: to sample both the local markets that we broadcast in,

2189
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:10,920
Speaker 3: but also check out some of the budding sports betting

2190
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 3: culture that has now escaped the Vegas over the past

2191
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Speaker 3: couple of years and come to states and cities around

2192
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Speaker 3: the US.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty cool, Oh, very cool. One thing I love

2194
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Speaker 2: about this country of ours, which is a sports crazy country.

2195
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:30,640
Speaker 2: I mean, we love our sports fans are just you know,

2196
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Speaker 2: passionate about it. Remember during the shutdown in two and

2197
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:38,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, you and I rich occasionally with something we

2198
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:42,480
Speaker 2: rarely do, would open up the phone lines just to

2199
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Speaker 2: sort of, you know, help people because they were in

2200
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 2: total misery. I mean they were like, what do I do?

2201
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Speaker 2: I sort of felt that last night, no knock on

2202
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,840
Speaker 2: the NHL game one of the Stanley Cup Final wasn't

2203
02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 2: a huge draw for me. I felt like I should

2204
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 2: be watching an NBA game last night. That's what I

2205
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 2: felt like I should be doing, and there was none.

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02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:08,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because the last NBA game that was played

2207
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:13,480
Speaker 3: and we are in the finals was Thursday last week.

2208
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, what, how on earth.

2209
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Speaker 3: Do you give both of these teams a four day

2210
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:25,120
Speaker 3: respite before they have to play again? Well, and all

2211
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:26,080
Speaker 3: of the finals.

2212
02:03:26,120 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 2: And you think, all right, so from Thursday to Sunday,

2213
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,440
Speaker 2: and then it's going to be Sunday to Wednesday.

2214
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,040
Speaker 3: So it's just too much time.

2215
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:39,160
Speaker 2: It just it's too much time. But the good news

2216
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:42,720
Speaker 2: is we do have a game tonight. Now I'm trying

2217
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 2: to get myself excited about it. You remember we were

2218
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:50,520
Speaker 2: talking before the conference finals, and I was convinced that

2219
02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:53,640
Speaker 2: when you got the Lakers and the Celtics sitting there

2220
02:03:53,640 --> 02:03:56,520
Speaker 2: in the conference finals. You're going to find a way

2221
02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 2: to make sure those are the two teams matched up, right,

2222
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:04,520
Speaker 2: the two most historic franchises and lee history matched up

2223
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:07,120
Speaker 2: for the first time in the NBA Finals since twenty ten,

2224
02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 2: and then you lose both of them. It was so

2225
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 2: funny before Game one, they were trying to cite some

2226
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Speaker 2: kind of you know, history between the Heat and the Nuggets.

2227
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Speaker 2: By the way, the Nuggets have won nine actually, including Thursday,

2228
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Speaker 2: they now won ten of their last eleven games against

2229
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Speaker 2: the Heat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

2231
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we okay, it's up to us. We got

2232
02:04:31,640 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 2: we got to figure out a way to get people

2233
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:35,800
Speaker 2: revveed up for the tip off of Game two of

2234
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Speaker 2: the NBA Final.

2235
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Speaker 3: The Lakers got knocked out so long ago that I

2236
02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:43,160
Speaker 3: forgot they were in the postseason altogether, exactly. I mean,

2237
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:46,680
Speaker 3: we have been waiting for ever to see who the

2238
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 3: Nuggets were going to play coming out of the East

2239
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Speaker 3: in the first place, because that was the series, you know,

2240
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Speaker 3: the comeback from Miami Boston finally finishing out or being

2241
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Speaker 3: or I should say the come from Boston Miami finally

2242
02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 3: finishing off the Celtics. I mean, this was an interesting

2243
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference final. If I were going to find a

2244
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 3: way to sell to everybody how to watch this game tonight,

2245
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 3: here's what I would do. Look if to be perfectly

2246
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:22,200
Speaker 3: honest with you, I haven't placed the bet on this

2247
02:05:22,240 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 3: because I don't live in a state that allows me to.

2248
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:27,640
Speaker 3: But I if I lived in a state where I

2249
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Speaker 3: could hop on an app and I could put money

2250
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Speaker 3: on anything tonight, what I would put my money on

2251
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 3: is And I'm curious if the line has moved, I

2252
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 3: haven't checked. I would put my money on Jimmy Butler

2253
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:44,960
Speaker 3: hitting the over. I think last night was the last

2254
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:46,920
Speaker 3: time I looked at the line and it was still

2255
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Speaker 3: hovering at twenty five and a half on most books.

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Speaker 2: But if he.

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Speaker 3: Has I would be shocked. Let's put it that way.

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02:05:57,360 --> 02:05:59,520
Speaker 2: If he by the way, I've listened to you plenty

2259
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Speaker 2: on Saturday, So when you come up with that line,

2260
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Speaker 2: I'll be shocked. Yeah, you have been shocked.

2261
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Speaker 3: I have been shocked in the past, Steve.

2262
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:10,360
Speaker 2: But I mean this comes from the worst prognosticator in

2263
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Speaker 2: the history of SPORTSTOC radio.

2264
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is I've learned from the legendary Steve Hartman.

2265
02:06:16,760 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 3: If there's one thing. It's the reverse jinks. Yeah, if

2266
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Speaker 3: there's one thing you should do, if people would beg me,

2267
02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 3: please lock the game, lock it. I want to hear

2268
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:27,520
Speaker 3: the word lock. If you locked this game, I got

2269
02:06:27,560 --> 02:06:29,880
Speaker 3: money coming to me. But but let me the other way.

2270
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:33,040
Speaker 3: So Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler scores thirteen in the opening

2271
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 3: game of this series. He literally the only words that

2272
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 3: really cut through made sense to me from Jimmy Butler

2273
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 3: when they asked him, like, hey, you know, what were

2274
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:44,240
Speaker 3: the problems? He just said I wasn't aggressive enough.

2275
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:47,200
Speaker 2: Right, But why wasn't he agree? It's the NBA Finals,

2276
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:51,360
Speaker 2: But this is the team that really built your resume

2277
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,560
Speaker 2: to get to the finals. On coming out and jumping

2278
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:57,240
Speaker 2: on your opponent in game one, they did not do that.

2279
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Speaker 3: You put a little scratch, you put a little deray

2280
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:03,800
Speaker 3: me on Jimmy Butler in the over because there is

2281
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:06,839
Speaker 3: no way Jimmy Butler comes out in game two flat.

2282
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:10,360
Speaker 3: He's gonna come out roaring. This is a guy who

2283
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Speaker 3: wants to be known as playoff Jimmy. He wants to

2284
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Speaker 3: be known as a guy who can carry a team

2285
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Speaker 3: on his back. There's going to be there there. I

2286
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:20,680
Speaker 3: mean it would I would put it next to him

2287
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:25,280
Speaker 3: possible for him to have another thirteen point game in

2288
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:29,280
Speaker 3: game two. I think he's gonna go off. I that's

2289
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:32,320
Speaker 3: the only chance to Miami he'd have is if you

2290
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 3: get Jimmy Butler going.

2291
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 2: So, whether it's volume or.

2292
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 3: It's just key makes I think he's going to have

2293
02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:41,320
Speaker 3: one of the bigger games of his post side.

2294
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Speaker 2: So you're saying over twenty five and a half, there

2295
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:46,960
Speaker 2: you go. I like that. That makes that makes sense

2296
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:47,160
Speaker 2: to me.

2297
02:07:47,200 --> 02:07:47,840
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

2298
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:50,560
Speaker 2: I mean the idea that he's gonna have one dud

2299
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 2: after another Disston. He's too good of a player.

2300
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:55,919
Speaker 3: He's too good of a player, and it's and this series.

2301
02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:59,320
Speaker 3: Unless you want to bet on the favorite, right because.

2302
02:08:00,240 --> 02:08:02,840
Speaker 2: A point favorites tonight the Nuggets, that's a huge number.

2303
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:05,680
Speaker 3: It's a huge number, and I don't feel comfortable putting

2304
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:07,880
Speaker 3: that kind of money on a number, or any kind

2305
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 3: of money on a number like that in a final.

2306
02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:13,600
Speaker 3: So I think you gotta you gotta break this down

2307
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:17,360
Speaker 3: into you know, player props to really find a way

2308
02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:19,680
Speaker 3: to enjoy this game, because if you if you don't,

2309
02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:23,560
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna be disappointed. Because I don't see

2310
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:26,360
Speaker 3: I don't see a way for the Heat to win

2311
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:28,720
Speaker 3: more than one game. I could very easily see the

2312
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:32,360
Speaker 3: Nuggets sweeping this series. This is and you know, to

2313
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Speaker 3: reference something that I said yesterday morning and Sam reminded

2314
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Speaker 3: us of this morning already or this afternoon, depending on

2315
02:08:39,000 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 3: where you're listening, is the fact that the Heat one

2316
02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 3: of the things that they've been able to do is

2317
02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:48,880
Speaker 3: establish themselves early in the series. They're three to zero

2318
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:53,240
Speaker 3: in opening games of series throughout this postseason, and they

2319
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:55,200
Speaker 3: weren't able to do that to Nuggets, and it wasn't

2320
02:08:55,200 --> 02:08:58,760
Speaker 3: even particularly close. And so I just and they were

2321
02:08:58,800 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 3: riding off of some moment them after Game seven winning

2322
02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:06,720
Speaker 3: over the Celtics, and Jimmy Butler, you know, he turned

2323
02:09:06,760 --> 02:09:08,840
Speaker 3: down an opportunity to even put his hands on the

2324
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:12,320
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Championship trophy. He said, I'll hold the next one.

2325
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:16,240
Speaker 3: And they still got embarrassed against the Nuggets in Game

2326
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Speaker 3: one on Thursday night. So so yeah, that's the way

2327
02:09:19,560 --> 02:09:21,520
Speaker 3: if I'm going to sell this game, I would say,

2328
02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:25,200
Speaker 3: watch Jimmy, watch him go off, and if I could,

2329
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:29,440
Speaker 3: I would sprinkle a little uh maybe maybe a unit,

2330
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:32,520
Speaker 3: maybe a half unit on Jimmy Butler having a night.

2331
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:37,720
Speaker 2: By the way, can we eliminate the trophy ceremony after

2332
02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:43,560
Speaker 2: the conference finals? This is ridiculous. Yeah. I remember the

2333
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 2: first time I ever saw it happen was back when

2334
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 2: the Lakers. It was eight nine, twenty ten. They were

2335
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals three straight years and they clinched

2336
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:57,200
Speaker 2: the Western Conference Final at home. And I was at

2337
02:09:57,200 --> 02:10:03,000
Speaker 2: this game, and there was and there's Phil lamar Odom.

2338
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:06,800
Speaker 2: You know, they're all standing there, and commissioner was on

2339
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:09,800
Speaker 2: it was at the game, and he's trying to present

2340
02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:17,360
Speaker 2: this trophy. You know, the Lakers are like, great, thanks,

2341
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:23,360
Speaker 2: And the best thing was so because I stayed all

2342
02:10:23,360 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 2: the way to the end. So they finished the ceremony

2343
02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:28,360
Speaker 2: and they walk off the court and they didn't take

2344
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:31,200
Speaker 2: the trophy. And by the way, I don't even know

2345
02:10:31,240 --> 02:10:32,560
Speaker 2: where those trophies are.

2346
02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:37,440
Speaker 3: I mean, they're probably somewhere in the LA Lakers building

2347
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:39,600
Speaker 3: under shroud of glass.

2348
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:43,920
Speaker 2: Shroud of glass. No, the Lakers at their practice facility

2349
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:47,880
Speaker 2: have all their championship trophies lined up. They're Larry O'Brien's.

2350
02:10:48,640 --> 02:10:52,360
Speaker 2: There's no sight of any of those conference championships. And

2351
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:58,360
Speaker 2: by the way, them naming these trophies, the championship Trophy

2352
02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:02,960
Speaker 2: as the team and after former players. It's it's overkill.

2353
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 2: I'm losing sight. I know I did. Which one is

2354
02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:10,920
Speaker 2: the Oscar Robertson Award? Which one is the Jerry West Award?

2355
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:12,320
Speaker 2: There's a Kobe Bryant.

2356
02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:12,760
Speaker 3: I mean.

2357
02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:19,840
Speaker 2: Too much, too much, too much? And because let me

2358
02:11:19,880 --> 02:11:22,640
Speaker 2: ask you this, Yes, yeah, so you you were part

2359
02:11:22,720 --> 02:11:26,400
Speaker 2: of some playoff wins, that's right. So when you guys

2360
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:29,520
Speaker 2: made the run to the super Bowl, did you guys

2361
02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:33,800
Speaker 2: pop the champagne after every playoff game win? No? I mean,

2362
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:37,839
Speaker 2: but did you pop the champagne after winning the conference title?

2363
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:41,360
Speaker 3: You do hats and T shirts. That's how you celebrate.

2364
02:11:41,400 --> 02:11:44,280
Speaker 2: And I mean when you guys won the conference championship,

2365
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:45,040
Speaker 2: all right, I'll.

2366
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:47,360
Speaker 3: Tell you the story about that. It was unique. I've

2367
02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:52,240
Speaker 3: never experienced anything before or since. And so you know,

2368
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:55,800
Speaker 3: the confetti's coming down on the field, and you know,

2369
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 3: you got the commissioner lumbering out there and shaking hands

2370
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:02,440
Speaker 3: with Craft, owner of the Patriots. We had just beaten

2371
02:12:02,480 --> 02:12:05,720
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens on our home field. We're going to

2372
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:09,120
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and there's a lot of excitement obviously,

2373
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:11,600
Speaker 3: because you know, for many of us this was the

2374
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:14,040
Speaker 3: first time. For many of the players who have been

2375
02:12:14,080 --> 02:12:18,080
Speaker 3: there before, this is their next And so they're setting

2376
02:12:18,160 --> 02:12:21,600
Speaker 3: up the stage and I remember at one point I've

2377
02:12:21,600 --> 02:12:24,120
Speaker 3: told this story to you before, Steve, but I backed

2378
02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:27,560
Speaker 3: into this old lady and I almost knocked her over,

2379
02:12:27,600 --> 02:12:31,400
Speaker 3: and I felt terrible. She's wearing this big like fur coade.

2380
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:33,680
Speaker 2: What was she doing on the field. Well, I don't know,

2381
02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 2: I mean, but he like, you know, Robert Kraft's I think, yeah.

2382
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:40,879
Speaker 3: I mean, my my assumption was she was somebody's grandma

2383
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:44,600
Speaker 3: who had access to the sideline and came out to

2384
02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:47,280
Speaker 3: celebrate with the team, or maybe she was with you know,

2385
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:50,680
Speaker 3: the ownership group in the suite. I nearly knocked her over,

2386
02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:53,440
Speaker 3: and so as I backed into her, I kind of

2387
02:12:53,480 --> 02:12:55,720
Speaker 3: got shoved by one of my teammates. We're all hugging

2388
02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:58,200
Speaker 3: and celebrating. She goes, that's all right, because I was like, oh,

2389
02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:02,280
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry. So I turn around moments later, I mean,

2390
02:13:02,320 --> 02:13:05,200
Speaker 3: maybe less than a minute later, to face the stage,

2391
02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:08,720
Speaker 3: and this same old lady wearing the fur code had

2392
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:11,760
Speaker 3: already ascended onto the platform and was standing near Robert

2393
02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:14,440
Speaker 3: Kraft and I was like, that's not his wife.

2394
02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:15,320
Speaker 2: Who is that?

2395
02:13:15,520 --> 02:13:19,720
Speaker 3: And then upon closer review, it was Steven Tyler from Aerosmith.

2396
02:13:20,720 --> 02:13:22,760
Speaker 2: I love it. It was not an old lady.

2397
02:13:22,960 --> 02:13:27,040
Speaker 3: Wow, he was Stephen Tyler, who obviously, I mean the

2398
02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:30,000
Speaker 3: roots of Arrowsmith is in Boston, so he was back

2399
02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:34,240
Speaker 3: celebrating it. Yeah.

2400
02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:36,960
Speaker 2: So I mean he's eliminate these. I mean there's one

2401
02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:42,160
Speaker 2: trophy in every sort. You know, it's like the participation trophies.

2402
02:13:42,600 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'll give you another story.

2403
02:13:44,680 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 2: Wait till your boys really get into their sports, they're

2404
02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:50,280
Speaker 2: going to pile up so many of these participation trophies.

2405
02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:52,080
Speaker 2: You're gonna be sick and tired of it.

2406
02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:52,240
Speaker 5: Oh.

2407
02:13:52,240 --> 02:13:55,080
Speaker 2: I already got one with boxes and boxes and boxes

2408
02:13:55,120 --> 02:13:56,560
Speaker 2: of these things for my three kids.

2409
02:13:56,600 --> 02:13:58,040
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this quick story and then I'll tell

2410
02:13:58,080 --> 02:14:01,160
Speaker 3: you about a participation trop which both of these kind

2411
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:05,080
Speaker 3: of are. But so, after this season with the Patriots

2412
02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:07,520
Speaker 3: ends and we lose to the Giants, the second loss

2413
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:09,520
Speaker 3: to the Giants that the Patriots had recently in the

2414
02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:12,880
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, Right, we lose to the Giants, we all

2415
02:14:12,920 --> 02:14:17,560
Speaker 3: go home, everybody's bummed out. Obviously, that next season I'm

2416
02:14:17,560 --> 02:14:21,120
Speaker 3: playing for the Arizona Cardinals. And this is probably sometime

2417
02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:25,680
Speaker 3: around September. If I'm remembering it correctly, it was during

2418
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:29,240
Speaker 3: the fall. I'm pretty sure. I get this box from

2419
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:33,000
Speaker 3: the New England Patriots from one Foxborough away. I'm like,

2420
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:35,960
Speaker 3: what the heck is this? So I'm opening the box.

2421
02:14:36,680 --> 02:14:41,000
Speaker 3: It was my AFC Championship ring. I had no idea

2422
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:43,960
Speaker 3: the even made AFC Championship rings when they gave it

2423
02:14:43,960 --> 02:14:46,160
Speaker 3: to me. When I opened the box, originally, I'm like,

2424
02:14:46,680 --> 02:14:48,480
Speaker 3: did they think we won the Super Bowl?

2425
02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:48,680
Speaker 5: Like?

2426
02:14:48,840 --> 02:14:52,240
Speaker 3: It's got diamonds all over, It's got the New England

2427
02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:53,880
Speaker 3: Patriots logo on it.

2428
02:14:53,880 --> 02:14:56,080
Speaker 2: It's it looks like it had the score of the

2429
02:14:56,080 --> 02:15:01,280
Speaker 2: game that you lost. I Super Bowls of the Giants.

2430
02:15:01,280 --> 02:15:03,280
Speaker 2: I mean, is you know it doesn't? I think it

2431
02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:10,280
Speaker 2: has the big L on the side. I get, Yeah,

2432
02:15:10,840 --> 02:15:13,800
Speaker 2: you win a championship, then you get the trophy, then

2433
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:17,400
Speaker 2: you get the ring, you get the consolation prize.

2434
02:15:17,440 --> 02:15:18,160
Speaker 3: Ask me how.

2435
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:20,240
Speaker 2: Many times I put it on in my life. Can

2436
02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:22,760
Speaker 2: you imagine like they give the Heisman trophy and the

2437
02:15:22,760 --> 02:15:24,960
Speaker 2: guy that finished the second we give you a mini trophy,

2438
02:15:25,120 --> 02:15:27,720
Speaker 2: like like you weren't first. You don't get the big one.

2439
02:15:27,720 --> 02:15:28,760
Speaker 2: We're gonna give you a little one.

2440
02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna give you instead of hitting.

2441
02:15:31,160 --> 02:15:33,720
Speaker 2: The trophy for seconds.

2442
02:15:34,640 --> 02:15:37,120
Speaker 3: And the guy getting tackled, I didn't get hit.

2443
02:15:37,600 --> 02:15:39,440
Speaker 2: My kids were like, where are your trophies?

2444
02:15:39,480 --> 02:15:39,640
Speaker 5: Dad?

2445
02:15:39,680 --> 02:15:41,960
Speaker 2: I go, I wasn't. We only got stuff.

2446
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:42,280
Speaker 3: When we won.

2447
02:15:43,120 --> 02:15:48,880
Speaker 2: There was one team, one one, not everybody loser looser.

2448
02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:54,720
Speaker 2: I got nothing coming up on the other side, somebody

2449
02:15:54,800 --> 02:15:57,200
Speaker 2: is about to make a whole lot of money. The

2450
02:15:57,280 --> 02:16:01,640
Speaker 2: question is is he wore it? Tell you who it is?

2451
02:16:01,680 --> 02:16:08,120
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday. Well that's what Bridge thought.

2452
02:16:08,720 --> 02:16:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, this makes sense.

2453
02:16:09,640 --> 02:16:11,880
Speaker 2: And Tyler looking like a lady.

2454
02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:19,880
Speaker 3: I listen in a in a flash instance with this

2455
02:16:19,880 --> 02:16:23,760
Speaker 3: this older woman looking over her shoulder. I was convinced

2456
02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:27,080
Speaker 3: I had I had it pinned. I almost knocked over

2457
02:16:28,200 --> 02:16:31,080
Speaker 3: over a lady. It was not it was it was

2458
02:16:31,120 --> 02:16:34,800
Speaker 3: Steven Tyler ver look like a lady, And I apologize.

2459
02:16:34,879 --> 02:16:36,959
Speaker 2: Here it is once a the end. We are live

2460
02:16:37,000 --> 02:16:39,279
Speaker 2: from the ti rag dot Com studios.

2461
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Speaker 7: Yes, Sam, Steve, is that more of an insult to

2462
02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:43,839
Speaker 7: the woman or to Steven Tyler?

2463
02:16:44,400 --> 02:16:47,320
Speaker 2: Steven Tyler, It's not an insult to Stephen Tyler because

2464
02:16:47,360 --> 02:16:50,720
Speaker 2: he is he created his look a long time ago,

2465
02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:54,280
Speaker 2: just saying though he's obviously very but didn't age. Well, no,

2466
02:16:54,480 --> 02:16:55,840
Speaker 2: I look, here's the deal.

2467
02:16:55,920 --> 02:16:57,760
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, there can be very attractive.

2468
02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:01,160
Speaker 2: You've seen Mick Jagger womanly or how about when you

2469
02:17:01,240 --> 02:17:03,640
Speaker 2: watch when you watch, didn't he just have another kid?

2470
02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:05,000
Speaker 3: Maybe?

2471
02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't know last year, you know, I mean when

2472
02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:14,520
Speaker 2: I saw Al Patino's picture year old girlfriend, he's eighty three. Yeah,

2473
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:18,320
Speaker 2: most rock stars when they start getting into their seventies,

2474
02:17:18,440 --> 02:17:21,120
Speaker 2: I love I love watching old interviews with like the

2475
02:17:21,160 --> 02:17:25,400
Speaker 2: Beatles and the Rolling Stones and you know those sixties bands,

2476
02:17:25,480 --> 02:17:27,280
Speaker 2: and they were asked, you know, what do you think

2477
02:17:27,480 --> 02:17:30,360
Speaker 2: five years or they're like that sounds like a long time.

2478
02:17:30,440 --> 02:17:32,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, a couple of years, maybe

2479
02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:35,400
Speaker 2: we'll be at this and do something else. The idea

2480
02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:38,480
Speaker 2: that you know, sixty years later, that they would still

2481
02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:41,200
Speaker 2: be on a stage and people would be paying to

2482
02:17:41,320 --> 02:17:44,280
Speaker 2: see them. Not in a million years could they have

2483
02:17:44,320 --> 02:17:48,280
Speaker 2: believed that was possible. You got seventy five year old

2484
02:17:48,320 --> 02:17:50,800
Speaker 2: eighty year old guys on stage rocking.

2485
02:17:51,640 --> 02:17:54,280
Speaker 7: Hey, I love it, man, that's some good music. I'm

2486
02:17:54,320 --> 02:17:56,039
Speaker 7: a fan of Airsmith too. I just you know, I

2487
02:17:56,080 --> 02:17:56,960
Speaker 7: just thought it was funny.

2488
02:17:57,200 --> 02:18:01,080
Speaker 3: No, I mean, it is no shame because again, if

2489
02:18:01,280 --> 02:18:03,480
Speaker 3: if I were going again, it was the quickest of

2490
02:18:03,560 --> 02:18:07,320
Speaker 3: glances when I again, if anybody missed the story, after

2491
02:18:07,360 --> 02:18:11,039
Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game, I backed into who I thought

2492
02:18:11,120 --> 02:18:15,840
Speaker 3: was an elderly woman wearing a fur coat, and it

2493
02:18:15,879 --> 02:18:17,240
Speaker 3: turned out to be Steven Tyler.

2494
02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:19,199
Speaker 2: It's a man, babe.

2495
02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:23,960
Speaker 3: I thought I thought that she was very attractive.

2496
02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:27,560
Speaker 2: There you go, he he wears it.

2497
02:18:27,600 --> 02:18:31,280
Speaker 3: Well, they would make a very beautiful older woman.

2498
02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:33,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm going to tell you somebody that's

2499
02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:36,880
Speaker 2: going to be uh affording and anything he wants very shortly,

2500
02:18:36,959 --> 02:18:46,640
Speaker 2: and that is Austin Reeves, the formerly undrafted Laker. The

2501
02:18:46,760 --> 02:18:49,720
Speaker 2: Lakers are now putting it out there that they will

2502
02:18:49,760 --> 02:18:54,240
Speaker 2: match any offer up to one hundred million dollars. The

2503
02:18:54,280 --> 02:18:57,640
Speaker 2: word is is that he's going to get a four year,

2504
02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:03,600
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar coigh track. That's twenty five million

2505
02:19:03,800 --> 02:19:08,240
Speaker 2: a year for a guy who at the start of

2506
02:19:08,280 --> 02:19:11,680
Speaker 2: this I mean to show you how out of left

2507
02:19:11,720 --> 02:19:15,800
Speaker 2: field this is from where he started. So again, he

2508
02:19:15,879 --> 02:19:20,400
Speaker 2: was not drafted. He didn't look particularly great in his

2509
02:19:20,440 --> 02:19:24,240
Speaker 2: initial summer league action with the Lakers. There were some

2510
02:19:24,280 --> 02:19:26,480
Speaker 2: people that were surprised when he actually even made the

2511
02:19:26,560 --> 02:19:30,040
Speaker 2: very first cut, like okay, why is he still around?

2512
02:19:30,280 --> 02:19:33,560
Speaker 2: Type of thing, And like two years later, he's about

2513
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:37,520
Speaker 2: to get one hundred million dollar deal. Now what's interesting

2514
02:19:37,600 --> 02:19:40,119
Speaker 2: is the Lakers. The word is the Lakers will match

2515
02:19:40,200 --> 02:19:43,800
Speaker 2: and he offer he gets up to one hundred million dollars.

2516
02:19:44,360 --> 02:19:46,720
Speaker 2: So what if somebody offers him one hundred and twenty

2517
02:19:46,720 --> 02:19:49,360
Speaker 2: million dollars? Yeah, I'm not gonna offer you, not gonna

2518
02:19:49,760 --> 02:19:53,080
Speaker 2: but we're talking about twenty five million dollars a year

2519
02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:58,880
Speaker 2: for Austin Reeves. He had a good season, yeah, I mean,

2520
02:19:59,040 --> 02:20:02,080
Speaker 2: well he had it was most impressive was his postseason.

2521
02:20:02,200 --> 02:20:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what I was gonna say. And more

2522
02:20:04,600 --> 02:20:08,000
Speaker 3: impressive than his season is regular season, was how much

2523
02:20:08,080 --> 02:20:11,280
Speaker 3: he showed up after the deadline and how much he

2524
02:20:11,360 --> 02:20:16,000
Speaker 3: factored in the postseason. If Austin Reeves doesn't perform the

2525
02:20:16,040 --> 02:20:21,040
Speaker 3: way he did in the starting starting five through this postseason,

2526
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:23,320
Speaker 3: the Lakers don't make it to the Western Conference Final,

2527
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:26,920
Speaker 3: and there's no arguing with that. Now, do I think

2528
02:20:26,959 --> 02:20:31,920
Speaker 3: they need another star? Yeah? Who will manifest to become

2529
02:20:31,959 --> 02:20:34,160
Speaker 3: that third star in the Lakers? I don't know yet,

2530
02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:37,840
Speaker 3: but Reeves I think is an important part of the formula,

2531
02:20:38,040 --> 02:20:42,080
Speaker 3: and I think that I think that, Yeah, to your point,

2532
02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:44,039
Speaker 3: you know, if all of a sudden you have a

2533
02:20:44,040 --> 02:20:47,840
Speaker 3: team another team interested in signing him, and you know

2534
02:20:47,879 --> 02:20:52,360
Speaker 3: we're talking about five million dollars more per year, is

2535
02:20:52,400 --> 02:20:55,320
Speaker 3: that going to break the bank for the Lakers? I mean,

2536
02:20:55,400 --> 02:20:58,119
Speaker 3: is it going to destroy their cap to go twenty

2537
02:20:58,120 --> 02:21:04,160
Speaker 3: million dollars over their or initial bargaining price. I don't

2538
02:21:04,200 --> 02:21:08,039
Speaker 3: think so. But I mean that's up to the general

2539
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:10,440
Speaker 3: manager and the capologists and the people who are keeping

2540
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:13,120
Speaker 3: their eyes on the business side of this team to

2541
02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:16,640
Speaker 3: figure out. I think he's worth it. I think that

2542
02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:19,959
Speaker 3: what we saw from him was not only he can

2543
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:23,240
Speaker 3: be a role player, but he can take over games

2544
02:21:23,640 --> 02:21:27,480
Speaker 3: from an offensive standpoint. There were games where you know,

2545
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:30,920
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis or Lebron James or both of them kind

2546
02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:34,480
Speaker 3: of had off nights and he scored twenty or twenty

2547
02:21:34,520 --> 02:21:39,320
Speaker 3: five plus and factored on the defensive side. And that's

2548
02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:41,720
Speaker 3: you could point to him as the reason why the

2549
02:21:41,800 --> 02:21:45,240
Speaker 3: Lakers won postseason games. And how often can we say

2550
02:21:45,280 --> 02:21:49,520
Speaker 3: that about Lebron James led teams? Not very often, so

2551
02:21:50,400 --> 02:21:51,039
Speaker 3: it's worth it.

2552
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:54,840
Speaker 2: I look at his numbers. And again this is you

2553
02:21:54,920 --> 02:21:59,480
Speaker 2: gotta give the Lakers credit. Somebody saw something in this kid.

2554
02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:02,080
Speaker 2: I mean, if you go back over his college career,

2555
02:22:02,080 --> 02:22:05,320
Speaker 2: he had a couple of completely forgettable years at Wichita State.

2556
02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:08,240
Speaker 2: He sits out of here, he transfers to Oklahoma. His

2557
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:11,400
Speaker 2: numbers were good. Nothing that jumps out at you, nothing

2558
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:14,520
Speaker 2: that really jumps out at you. And you look at

2559
02:22:14,520 --> 02:22:19,160
Speaker 2: his postseason numbers this year. In sixteen postseason games this year,

2560
02:22:19,440 --> 02:22:22,000
Speaker 2: by the way, averaging over thirty six minutes a night,

2561
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:26,680
Speaker 2: averaging he averaged seventeen points, four and a half rebounds,

2562
02:22:26,720 --> 02:22:31,680
Speaker 2: four and a half assist, shooting forty four percent threes,

2563
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:34,760
Speaker 2: ninety percent from the free throw line. I mean, those

2564
02:22:34,760 --> 02:22:35,959
Speaker 2: are big time numbers.

2565
02:22:36,080 --> 02:22:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding.

2566
02:22:37,879 --> 02:22:40,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is a no brainer for the Lakers.

2567
02:22:40,200 --> 02:22:44,400
Speaker 2: Whatever it takes, You've got to keep Austin Reeves on

2568
02:22:44,440 --> 02:22:47,039
Speaker 2: this roster. And he's just a good teammate, just a

2569
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:47,680
Speaker 2: good teammate.

2570
02:22:47,720 --> 02:22:49,400
Speaker 8: Can Can I throw something out to you?

2571
02:22:49,520 --> 02:22:49,640
Speaker 3: Yes?

2572
02:22:49,879 --> 02:22:52,800
Speaker 8: But you know, I think the Lakers might be putting

2573
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:55,440
Speaker 8: out these these rumors that they'll match any offer for

2574
02:22:55,520 --> 02:22:59,440
Speaker 8: Reeves simply to discourage teams from even offering him a

2575
02:22:59,480 --> 02:23:00,600
Speaker 8: contract In the first place.

2576
02:23:00,920 --> 02:23:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're another team and you want to

2577
02:23:02,800 --> 02:23:04,760
Speaker 2: No one wants to do the Lakers any favors.

2578
02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:06,360
Speaker 8: No, but they don't want to tie up their cap

2579
02:23:06,440 --> 02:23:08,520
Speaker 8: room for you know, how many days you get to match,

2580
02:23:08,640 --> 02:23:09,039
Speaker 8: you get.

2581
02:23:08,879 --> 02:23:11,080
Speaker 2: Like, well, this is what we talked about last week though,

2582
02:23:11,240 --> 02:23:14,199
Speaker 2: is like if you if you were to offer him

2583
02:23:14,320 --> 02:23:16,920
Speaker 2: a four year, one hundred million dollar contract and then

2584
02:23:17,000 --> 02:23:20,080
Speaker 2: the Lakers say, we were just kidding. We wish him

2585
02:23:20,080 --> 02:23:23,280
Speaker 2: all the best. Now you have Austin Reeves and you

2586
02:23:23,480 --> 02:23:24,959
Speaker 2: just used up all that money.

2587
02:23:24,959 --> 02:23:26,720
Speaker 8: I think they're going to keep him, but I I

2588
02:23:26,760 --> 02:23:28,400
Speaker 8: do think they're going to get him cheaper because they

2589
02:23:28,400 --> 02:23:30,960
Speaker 8: could also just agree on a contract before free agency

2590
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:32,680
Speaker 8: even begins or any.

2591
02:23:32,760 --> 02:23:35,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that if I were Austin Reeves.

2592
02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:37,000
Speaker 8: I wouldn't either. But he seems to.

2593
02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah well I mean, yes, he seems to enjoy being

2594
02:23:40,520 --> 02:23:43,240
Speaker 2: a Laker. Yeah. Well, I mean, and they give him

2595
02:23:43,280 --> 02:23:45,600
Speaker 2: an opportunity when no one else did you do you guys?

2596
02:23:45,800 --> 02:23:47,800
Speaker 2: You're not going to walk away from money? No, do

2597
02:23:47,840 --> 02:23:48,360
Speaker 2: you do you? Guys?

2598
02:23:48,400 --> 02:23:51,360
Speaker 8: See his his billboard ads driving around Los Angeles at all?

2599
02:23:51,520 --> 02:23:51,800
Speaker 3: Yes?

2600
02:23:52,480 --> 02:23:55,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I believe he has partnered with lemon Daddy dot Com.

2601
02:23:55,440 --> 02:23:57,360
Speaker 8: I'm not sure what he is. I believe it's an

2602
02:23:57,400 --> 02:23:59,160
Speaker 8: automobile service.

2603
02:23:59,240 --> 02:24:02,920
Speaker 3: So well, well it's it's one of those towns LA

2604
02:24:03,200 --> 02:24:06,600
Speaker 3: New York. You know, there's there's other large markets Miami

2605
02:24:06,640 --> 02:24:10,520
Speaker 3: where players love to play, where you have exposure, you

2606
02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:14,560
Speaker 3: have exposure to if you sign with the right marketing person,

2607
02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:20,680
Speaker 3: agents to local car dealerships and local businesses or even

2608
02:24:20,760 --> 02:24:26,520
Speaker 3: national advertisers who want to break breakway into a larger

2609
02:24:26,600 --> 02:24:28,800
Speaker 3: market and want to do it on more of a budget.

2610
02:24:28,840 --> 02:24:31,959
Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe you can't afford Lebron James or Anthony Davis,

2611
02:24:32,320 --> 02:24:36,160
Speaker 3: you know, but you could get or Russell Westbrook when

2612
02:24:36,200 --> 02:24:38,879
Speaker 3: he was still playing, But you can get you can

2613
02:24:38,920 --> 02:24:41,160
Speaker 3: get an Austin Reeves.

2614
02:24:41,440 --> 02:24:41,640
Speaker 2: You know.

2615
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:45,039
Speaker 3: Maybe you can't afford a Kawhi or Paul George, but

2616
02:24:45,120 --> 02:24:48,440
Speaker 3: you can get a Rui Hatchamora. Like, there are benefits

2617
02:24:48,480 --> 02:24:52,000
Speaker 3: to playing in these larger markets you know where you know,

2618
02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:54,959
Speaker 3: obviously La with two teams, I was naming players from

2619
02:24:54,959 --> 02:24:57,600
Speaker 3: both the Lakers and the Clippers. Where you have your

2620
02:24:57,640 --> 02:25:01,080
Speaker 3: bigger name, your bigger draw players. But if you're a

2621
02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:04,360
Speaker 3: lesser brand, or if you have a lesser marketing dollar,

2622
02:25:04,640 --> 02:25:06,560
Speaker 3: and you want to try to get into those markets,

2623
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:08,760
Speaker 3: you could use Austin Reeves and Austin Reaves. Was you

2624
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:11,240
Speaker 3: gonna turn down free money? I mean outside of it

2625
02:25:11,320 --> 02:25:14,800
Speaker 3: being you know, some deplorable business like Yeah, I mean, shoot,

2626
02:25:14,840 --> 02:25:17,039
Speaker 3: money's green, let's do it. Throw me on a billboard

2627
02:25:17,040 --> 02:25:20,879
Speaker 3: with lemon daddy. I mean, that's not happening in Milwaukee.

2628
02:25:21,440 --> 02:25:25,000
Speaker 3: My guess. You know, the fourth best player on the

2629
02:25:25,040 --> 02:25:27,879
Speaker 3: box isn't gonna be on a billboard. But in La, Yeah,

2630
02:25:28,120 --> 02:25:29,120
Speaker 3: that stuff happens.

2631
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:32,800
Speaker 2: He's worth it. He's worth it. It's gonna be good. It's

2632
02:25:32,800 --> 02:25:35,240
Speaker 2: gonna be good. So we'll see. Of course, Hatchamur is

2633
02:25:35,240 --> 02:25:36,800
Speaker 2: another guy. They got to figure out what they're gonna

2634
02:25:36,800 --> 02:25:40,000
Speaker 2: do with him. Let's find out what is trending right now,

2635
02:25:40,600 --> 02:25:44,440
Speaker 2: Nick Kobe is sitting there. Is Reeves worth all that money?

2636
02:25:44,520 --> 02:25:44,680
Speaker 3: Nick?

2637
02:25:44,720 --> 02:25:47,320
Speaker 2: What do you think? Heck?

2638
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:48,199
Speaker 3: I don't know, man?

2639
02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:51,960
Speaker 2: Why not? I like the way he played in the playoffs,

2640
02:25:51,959 --> 02:25:53,680
Speaker 2: sid oh, he played great.

2641
02:25:54,040 --> 02:25:54,440
Speaker 3: I guess.

2642
02:25:54,560 --> 02:25:57,000
Speaker 2: I guess when you look at a guy like Austin

2643
02:25:57,120 --> 02:26:00,760
Speaker 2: Reeves and what he did in this postse and down

2644
02:26:00,800 --> 02:26:03,640
Speaker 2: the stretch with this team, is it gonna get better?

2645
02:26:04,840 --> 02:26:10,000
Speaker 2: I mean, is that his plateau, which is good. Yeah,

2646
02:26:10,280 --> 02:26:14,120
Speaker 2: but does he go another step? Does he get to

2647
02:26:14,160 --> 02:26:15,560
Speaker 2: All Star level? Is that?

2648
02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:15,920
Speaker 3: Aye?

2649
02:26:16,040 --> 02:26:19,120
Speaker 6: Possible potentially, But I feel like guys in the NBA

2650
02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:22,240
Speaker 6: for years, guys have been getting contracts where you you

2651
02:26:22,360 --> 02:26:24,640
Speaker 6: fur your brown You're like, really they got that much

2652
02:26:24,920 --> 02:26:26,360
Speaker 6: and you're kind of surprised about it.

2653
02:26:26,600 --> 02:26:28,520
Speaker 2: So Jordan Poole is the prime example.

2654
02:26:28,600 --> 02:26:31,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I think Reeves is gonna get paid by

2655
02:26:31,800 --> 02:26:35,600
Speaker 6: the Lakers. He's gonna stay there and he'll keep playing

2656
02:26:35,600 --> 02:26:36,640
Speaker 6: in his role quite well.

2657
02:26:36,800 --> 02:26:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2658
02:26:37,400 --> 02:26:39,320
Speaker 6: Game two of the NBA Finals today, by the way,

2659
02:26:39,400 --> 02:26:42,080
Speaker 6: Heaton Nuggets eight Eastern, So we got about three and

2660
02:26:42,120 --> 02:26:45,000
Speaker 6: a half hours until that tips off Denver leading one

2661
02:26:45,080 --> 02:26:48,680
Speaker 6: nothing in the series. Miami's Caleb Martin is questionable to

2662
02:26:48,680 --> 02:26:52,680
Speaker 6: play due to illness. Baseball bunch of games have just gone.

2663
02:26:52,760 --> 02:26:55,400
Speaker 6: Final Rays are now a big league best forty two

2664
02:26:55,440 --> 02:26:57,520
Speaker 6: and nineteen. They beat the Red Sox six to two.

2665
02:26:57,959 --> 02:27:00,440
Speaker 6: Blue Jays have won six out of seven, six to

2666
02:27:00,480 --> 02:27:02,800
Speaker 6: four of the final over the Mets. Today, teams combined

2667
02:27:02,800 --> 02:27:05,480
Speaker 6: for six home runs. Brandon Belt hit a go ahead

2668
02:27:05,480 --> 02:27:09,000
Speaker 6: shot in the seventh for Toronto. Brewers won their third

2669
02:27:09,000 --> 02:27:11,600
Speaker 6: straight against the Reds five to one. The final. Pirates

2670
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:14,360
Speaker 6: top the Cardinals two to one. Guardians hung on for

2671
02:27:14,480 --> 02:27:17,119
Speaker 6: two to one win over the Twins. Phillies blew out

2672
02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:20,400
Speaker 6: the Nationals eleven to three. Kyle Schwarber homer twice. He's

2673
02:27:20,440 --> 02:27:24,360
Speaker 6: now got fifteen big flies on the season. Marlins, they

2674
02:27:24,400 --> 02:27:26,920
Speaker 6: overcame a four run deficit for a seven to five

2675
02:27:26,959 --> 02:27:29,440
Speaker 6: win over the A's and the Angels. They got a

2676
02:27:29,840 --> 02:27:32,800
Speaker 6: go ahead Bays knock at double off the wall from

2677
02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:36,000
Speaker 6: sho hey Otani earlier in the ballgame, and that would

2678
02:27:36,080 --> 02:27:39,520
Speaker 6: stand up as the game winning play for the Los

2679
02:27:39,560 --> 02:27:43,480
Speaker 6: Angeles Angels. Two to one. They take down the Astros.

2680
02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:46,680
Speaker 6: Some games going on Texas. The Rangers just blowing out

2681
02:27:46,680 --> 02:27:49,800
Speaker 6: the Mariners twelve nothing in the sixth two to nothing

2682
02:27:49,879 --> 02:27:51,680
Speaker 6: the lead for the Royals on.

2683
02:27:51,640 --> 02:27:52,560
Speaker 2: Top of the Rockies.

2684
02:27:52,959 --> 02:27:56,080
Speaker 6: The Colorado Rockies now down to their final three outs.

2685
02:27:56,240 --> 02:27:58,400
Speaker 6: Two to two ball game between the Tigers and the

2686
02:27:58,440 --> 02:27:59,600
Speaker 6: White Sox in Chicago.

2687
02:27:59,760 --> 02:28:01,720
Speaker 2: That one is in the ninth in and could be

2688
02:28:01,760 --> 02:28:02,680
Speaker 2: heading for extras.

2689
02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:05,280
Speaker 6: Although Chicago has a couple men on and then a

2690
02:28:05,280 --> 02:28:07,720
Speaker 6: couple games have just been getting going here. We got

2691
02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:10,040
Speaker 6: the Braves and the d Backs as well as the

2692
02:28:10,040 --> 02:28:12,480
Speaker 6: Orioles and the Giants both those games in the second inning,

2693
02:28:12,760 --> 02:28:15,600
Speaker 6: no score quickly to the French Open, no fact, Djokovic

2694
02:28:15,640 --> 02:28:18,360
Speaker 6: and Tom seed Carlos soundcraz each one in straight sets,

2695
02:28:18,400 --> 02:28:21,480
Speaker 6: both into the quarterfinals on the women's side of competitive

2696
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:24,960
Speaker 6: match for American Sloan Stevens, but she ultimately comes up

2697
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:29,640
Speaker 6: short to two seed Arena Sabolenka at the Memorial Tournament,

2698
02:28:29,640 --> 02:28:32,640
Speaker 6: and they're now onto the back nine, and it has

2699
02:28:32,680 --> 02:28:35,600
Speaker 6: been Danny McCarthy who's been leading for much of this tournament.

2700
02:28:35,640 --> 02:28:38,520
Speaker 6: He's at eight under, a two shot lead on both

2701
02:28:38,560 --> 02:28:42,199
Speaker 6: Scottie Scheffler who is in the clubhouse, and Seewu Kim

2702
02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:43,840
Speaker 6: is also at minus six.

2703
02:28:43,959 --> 02:28:46,800
Speaker 2: Guys. Back to you, all right, Nick, thank you very much.

2704
02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:51,920
Speaker 2: By the way, we don't talk a lot of tennis

2705
02:28:52,040 --> 02:28:54,600
Speaker 2: or golf. I mean we talk golf, you know, during

2706
02:28:54,640 --> 02:28:56,280
Speaker 2: the majors. By the way, we're a couple of weeks

2707
02:28:56,280 --> 02:28:58,840
Speaker 2: away from the US Open, Rich which will be a

2708
02:28:58,840 --> 02:29:01,680
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. I had a country club that is so

2709
02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:05,480
Speaker 2: exclusive that nobody knows it exists in the city of

2710
02:29:05,520 --> 02:29:08,400
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, like literally knowing. They're like, where's the LA

2711
02:29:08,560 --> 02:29:11,240
Speaker 2: country Club. It's been around for one hundred years. I

2712
02:29:11,320 --> 02:29:14,640
Speaker 2: always tell them, have you ever driven on Wilsher Boulevard. Yeah,

2713
02:29:14,680 --> 02:29:16,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, well, then you drive by it every

2714
02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:19,760
Speaker 2: time you're on Wilshire. My no one knows where it is.

2715
02:29:19,800 --> 02:29:21,920
Speaker 2: And by the way, they've never Actually they had the

2716
02:29:21,959 --> 02:29:24,320
Speaker 2: Walker Cup, which is like the amateur version of the

2717
02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:26,920
Speaker 2: Ryder Cup a few years ago. But outside of that,

2718
02:29:26,959 --> 02:29:29,280
Speaker 2: the only time they ever had any tournament golf there

2719
02:29:29,840 --> 02:29:32,080
Speaker 2: was the US at the LA Open, like in the

2720
02:29:32,160 --> 02:29:35,280
Speaker 2: late thirties early forties. So you talk about a mystery course,

2721
02:29:35,760 --> 02:29:38,720
Speaker 2: I mean, they never played tournament golf there. Ever.

2722
02:29:39,959 --> 02:29:44,200
Speaker 3: The couple things I can tell you about La Country

2723
02:29:44,200 --> 02:29:49,280
Speaker 3: Club because my wife's parents have been members there forever. Yeah,

2724
02:29:49,560 --> 02:29:53,960
Speaker 3: is they have an unbelievable Easter egg hunt for the kids.

2725
02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:54,680
Speaker 2: Huh.

2726
02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:57,840
Speaker 3: They have a really cool Christmas display because they get

2727
02:29:57,879 --> 02:30:02,560
Speaker 3: this architectural engine near to do their gingerbread house, which

2728
02:30:02,600 --> 02:30:05,760
Speaker 3: is like twenty or thirty feet long. So we go

2729
02:30:05,800 --> 02:30:08,840
Speaker 3: there most most Christmas is to take a look at that.

2730
02:30:08,920 --> 02:30:10,599
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful course.

2731
02:30:10,440 --> 02:30:13,640
Speaker 3: Gorgeous course. It's perfectly manicured. They've done a lot of

2732
02:30:13,680 --> 02:30:15,320
Speaker 3: work to it to get ready for the Open.

2733
02:30:15,440 --> 02:30:18,879
Speaker 2: There's a problem, what's the problem parking. There is no parking.

2734
02:30:18,920 --> 02:30:19,880
Speaker 3: There is no parking.

2735
02:30:19,920 --> 02:30:23,080
Speaker 2: There is absolutely no parking. And by the way, they're

2736
02:30:23,120 --> 02:30:25,600
Speaker 2: going to have a limited crowd. There's only so many

2737
02:30:25,640 --> 02:30:28,600
Speaker 2: people that can be on that course. I mean some

2738
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:33,680
Speaker 2: of these majors you have unlimited, seemingly patrons there. That

2739
02:30:33,720 --> 02:30:38,680
Speaker 2: will not be the case with this course. So it's well,

2740
02:30:38,720 --> 02:30:41,600
Speaker 2: what's going to be pretty exclusive. As far as the

2741
02:30:41,640 --> 02:30:42,720
Speaker 2: gallery is concerned.

2742
02:30:42,840 --> 02:30:46,080
Speaker 3: What they'll do for the US Open, I guarantee it

2743
02:30:46,160 --> 02:30:50,160
Speaker 3: is they'll have they will have shuttles, because they do

2744
02:30:50,280 --> 02:30:53,280
Speaker 3: this for all of the golf events to a certain extent.

2745
02:30:53,320 --> 02:30:56,600
Speaker 3: There's obviously clubhouse parking, which is for you know, the

2746
02:30:56,640 --> 02:31:02,640
Speaker 3: pros and the caddies and you know, the mission critical staff,

2747
02:31:02,680 --> 02:31:05,640
Speaker 3: support staff. And you also have to make room for

2748
02:31:05,879 --> 02:31:10,279
Speaker 3: the manufacturers, so tailor made, Cowway, titleists, all these different

2749
02:31:10,280 --> 02:31:14,039
Speaker 3: manufacturers who want to have trucks, especially at majors, so

2750
02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:18,560
Speaker 3: you have last minute equipment situations with the pros. They

2751
02:31:18,560 --> 02:31:20,400
Speaker 3: can go into the truck, they can get fitted for

2752
02:31:20,440 --> 02:31:22,520
Speaker 3: a new club, they can be on their way, stuff

2753
02:31:22,560 --> 02:31:24,280
Speaker 3: like that. So you have to make room for all that,

2754
02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:27,360
Speaker 3: plus the television trucks and all those things as well,

2755
02:31:28,000 --> 02:31:30,039
Speaker 3: so there's gonna be limited parking on site. What they

2756
02:31:30,040 --> 02:31:32,240
Speaker 3: do is they just sort of take over different parking

2757
02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:35,240
Speaker 3: garages around these cities where they host these events, and

2758
02:31:35,280 --> 02:31:37,680
Speaker 3: then they shuttle players in. So it'll be an early

2759
02:31:37,800 --> 02:31:41,240
Speaker 3: day for a lot of players getting over the course,

2760
02:31:41,320 --> 02:31:44,440
Speaker 3: like it always is in golf, but even earlier still

2761
02:31:44,480 --> 02:31:48,160
Speaker 3: because Los Angeles. Man, that's one thing about the city

2762
02:31:48,200 --> 02:31:50,440
Speaker 3: of Los Angeles, and we know this from covering Super

2763
02:31:50,480 --> 02:31:53,959
Speaker 3: Bowls there, Steve and you know, other big events around

2764
02:31:53,959 --> 02:31:57,640
Speaker 3: that city, even just regular primetime games, is nobody else

2765
02:31:57,760 --> 02:32:02,039
Speaker 3: cares what's happening on the road they're traveling. Oh, it's

2766
02:32:02,040 --> 02:32:04,800
Speaker 3: not like the city stops because there's a US Open.

2767
02:32:04,920 --> 02:32:06,440
Speaker 3: So you gotta fight traffic too.

2768
02:32:07,320 --> 02:32:09,480
Speaker 2: By the way, I saw a stat here since we

2769
02:32:09,520 --> 02:32:13,160
Speaker 2: were going off the rails here, Djokovic getting to the

2770
02:32:13,200 --> 02:32:17,279
Speaker 2: quarterfinals of the French Open. That's the second most quarterfinals

2771
02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:19,840
Speaker 2: in a career. Only Federer had morey at fifty eight

2772
02:32:19,959 --> 02:32:23,520
Speaker 2: if you count all the different Grand Slam tournaments. Serena

2773
02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:27,000
Speaker 2: had fifty four, and also Chris Evertt had fifty four.

2774
02:32:27,080 --> 02:32:31,039
Speaker 2: What makes Chris Everts number so incredible about fifty four quarterfinals?

2775
02:32:31,480 --> 02:32:35,680
Speaker 2: She only competed in fifty six Grand Slam tournaments. Oh wow,

2776
02:32:35,800 --> 02:32:38,440
Speaker 2: in her entire career she got at least to the

2777
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:42,600
Speaker 2: semis fifty two of the fifty six that she played in.

2778
02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:46,280
Speaker 3: Not bad. But she ever did she ever crash into

2779
02:32:46,320 --> 02:32:47,240
Speaker 3: Steven Tyler?

2780
02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:51,400
Speaker 2: She never? Well, I can't say that. Yeah, she did

2781
02:32:51,440 --> 02:32:53,880
Speaker 2: hook up with Greg Norman for a while. I wonder

2782
02:32:53,920 --> 02:32:57,199
Speaker 2: if she follows the Live Tour or by the way,

2783
02:32:57,760 --> 02:32:59,320
Speaker 2: the Live Tour ratings are not good.

2784
02:32:59,560 --> 02:33:02,080
Speaker 3: No, oh no, no, as expected.

2785
02:33:02,560 --> 02:33:05,000
Speaker 2: But just the other day, somebody played three rounds of

2786
02:33:05,000 --> 02:33:09,920
Speaker 2: golf and made four million dollars. Oh it was Harold Varner,

2787
02:33:10,040 --> 02:33:13,200
Speaker 2: the third. He hadn't won a tournament in forever, and

2788
02:33:13,320 --> 02:33:14,359
Speaker 2: you remember.

2789
02:33:13,959 --> 02:33:16,840
Speaker 3: All the winning Harold Varner did on the prod Varner

2790
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:20,240
Speaker 3: And in three days of golf he collected a paycheck

2791
02:33:20,320 --> 02:33:24,680
Speaker 3: for four million dollars. It's not bad for a tournament that.

2792
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:28,480
Speaker 2: Nobody watched, all right, So what is going to happen tonight?

2793
02:33:28,560 --> 02:33:32,440
Speaker 2: Game two of these NBA finals will give you our thoughts.

2794
02:33:32,560 --> 02:33:36,640
Speaker 2: Coming up, This is Fox Sports Sunday, Thattius Ward. Ready,

2795
02:33:36,760 --> 02:33:39,360
Speaker 2: here's the pitch swung on hit of the air left field.

2796
02:33:39,400 --> 02:33:40,920
Speaker 2: This one's got a chance going back.

2797
02:33:40,840 --> 02:33:43,160
Speaker 9: Is Garrett to the track, to the wall, looking up,

2798
02:33:43,200 --> 02:33:46,920
Speaker 9: it's gone and it's the second three run home run

2799
02:33:46,959 --> 02:33:50,560
Speaker 9: of the day for mister June. Kyle Schwarmer and the

2800
02:33:50,600 --> 02:33:53,600
Speaker 9: Phillies now leading eleven to one.

2801
02:33:54,400 --> 02:33:57,800
Speaker 2: Well, that's good news that he's mister June, because even

2802
02:33:57,840 --> 02:34:00,320
Speaker 2: with his two for five six rbi d still hitting

2803
02:34:00,360 --> 02:34:03,560
Speaker 2: one seventy two betting lead off Kyle Schwarber doesn't really

2804
02:34:03,600 --> 02:34:06,600
Speaker 2: look like a leadoff guy. But that's where the Phillies

2805
02:34:06,640 --> 02:34:09,959
Speaker 2: are using him right now. Phillies Fenny Nationally Champs, trying

2806
02:34:09,959 --> 02:34:11,920
Speaker 2: to get out of a hole that they dug the

2807
02:34:11,920 --> 02:34:14,480
Speaker 2: first two months of the season. By the way, that's

2808
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:17,440
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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman, Rich Ornberger, this is Fox Sports Sunday and

2814
02:34:34,440 --> 02:34:38,680
Speaker 2: we are live from the tirerack dot com studios. We

2815
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:43,560
Speaker 2: welcome back to Iowa Sam this weekend. Sam, are you

2816
02:34:43,640 --> 02:34:48,360
Speaker 2: already sitting around with his London cup. Rich, Yes, my mug, Yeah,

2817
02:34:48,400 --> 02:34:50,440
Speaker 2: his mug. That's not a bug. That's a cup. A

2818
02:34:50,640 --> 02:34:53,560
Speaker 2: cup's a mini cup. It's a cup like a souvenir

2819
02:34:53,600 --> 02:34:56,240
Speaker 2: cup that actually isn't meant to actually have any liquid

2820
02:34:56,280 --> 02:34:58,720
Speaker 2: in it, you know the difference between a souvenir cup

2821
02:34:58,720 --> 02:35:01,000
Speaker 2: and one the actually drink out of. His is a

2822
02:35:01,040 --> 02:35:03,520
Speaker 2: souvenir cup. It's gotta handle. I can drink out of it.

2823
02:35:03,560 --> 02:35:07,080
Speaker 2: That's a souvenir if I have well sam having yet. Yeah,

2824
02:35:07,080 --> 02:35:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm drinking out of it right now.

2825
02:35:08,080 --> 02:35:08,879
Speaker 3: What do you got in there?

2826
02:35:09,160 --> 02:35:12,320
Speaker 2: Coffee? No, it's it's a souvenir cup, like something you

2827
02:35:12,360 --> 02:35:13,160
Speaker 2: put on display.

2828
02:35:13,520 --> 02:35:16,720
Speaker 3: Second, it's not can you hand wash it? Or is it?

2829
02:35:16,920 --> 02:35:19,440
Speaker 3: I mean, is this something that is supposed to be displayed.

2830
02:35:20,160 --> 02:35:23,160
Speaker 2: I think you can throw it in the dishwasher. But

2831
02:35:23,360 --> 02:35:25,760
Speaker 2: you know it's you know, if you want to race

2832
02:35:25,840 --> 02:35:27,520
Speaker 2: the London on it, yeah, go right ahead.

2833
02:35:27,560 --> 02:35:29,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll probably hand wash it for a while, you know.

2834
02:35:29,280 --> 02:35:32,720
Speaker 7: And in England, in London they call regular just coffee

2835
02:35:32,720 --> 02:35:35,000
Speaker 7: like drip coffee. They call it an Americano. I think

2836
02:35:35,040 --> 02:35:38,000
Speaker 7: an Americano here is something different. It's like, yeah, hot water,

2837
02:35:38,040 --> 02:35:41,160
Speaker 7: it's like espresso, and yeah, it's it's intense. But over

2838
02:35:41,160 --> 02:35:42,720
Speaker 7: there that's just what how close do.

2839
02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:45,440
Speaker 2: We come to losing you and and you being a

2840
02:35:45,440 --> 02:35:48,280
Speaker 2: permanent resident? Zero percent? Zero percent?

2841
02:35:48,360 --> 02:35:52,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's England and London is more expensive than

2842
02:35:52,520 --> 02:35:56,480
Speaker 7: la So he actually said it's it's like California.

2843
02:35:55,879 --> 02:35:56,600
Speaker 2: With bad weather.

2844
02:35:56,879 --> 02:35:59,440
Speaker 7: That's right, right, or actually the weather when I was there,

2845
02:35:59,480 --> 02:36:01,600
Speaker 7: the weather in in London was better than the weather's

2846
02:36:01,640 --> 02:36:01,920
Speaker 7: been here.

2847
02:36:01,920 --> 02:36:03,920
Speaker 2: It's been very gloomy here, very gloomy.

2848
02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:07,240
Speaker 3: You Uh did you did you find that you you

2849
02:36:07,280 --> 02:36:09,720
Speaker 3: fit in while you're in London? Uh?

2850
02:36:09,920 --> 02:36:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2851
02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:13,320
Speaker 7: Everyone kept calling me Ed Sheeran, so that was nice. Yeah,

2852
02:36:13,360 --> 02:36:15,080
Speaker 7: so yeah it worked out well.

2853
02:36:15,879 --> 02:36:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the standards are different.

2854
02:36:17,680 --> 02:36:19,520
Speaker 2: He is very he told me the first time he

2855
02:36:19,600 --> 02:36:21,920
Speaker 2: was there, he was really popular with the girls. No,

2856
02:36:22,000 --> 02:36:24,440
Speaker 2: that was in Japan, Oh, Japan, that's right. Japan.

2857
02:36:24,920 --> 02:36:27,840
Speaker 7: I saw probably five men who looked like King Charles

2858
02:36:27,879 --> 02:36:31,400
Speaker 7: and they could have just been Hallness really residents. Well,

2859
02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:33,080
Speaker 7: when I was in Japan, i was fifteen. I was

2860
02:36:33,120 --> 02:36:36,960
Speaker 7: already like five foot something, had really light blonde hair.

2861
02:36:37,080 --> 02:36:38,840
Speaker 7: But I was taller than most of the full grown

2862
02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:40,840
Speaker 7: men there, so I was like five four.

2863
02:36:40,640 --> 02:36:44,959
Speaker 2: Probably excellent. Nick doesn't have that problem. Nick is doing

2864
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:50,360
Speaker 2: it wherever he's at. Nick's like you, Well, it's my

2865
02:36:50,480 --> 02:36:52,200
Speaker 2: point is what does that mean?

2866
02:36:52,440 --> 02:36:55,880
Speaker 3: Well? Nick doing it all the time.

2867
02:36:56,120 --> 02:36:59,400
Speaker 2: Ever, he's like that silver fox guy. You know, he's

2868
02:36:59,480 --> 02:37:02,039
Speaker 2: like you. I mean, he's got that great hair I

2869
02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:02,760
Speaker 2: started getting.

2870
02:37:03,080 --> 02:37:06,040
Speaker 6: I found my first gray hair as a sophomore in college,

2871
02:37:06,720 --> 02:37:07,480
Speaker 6: right in the front.

2872
02:37:07,560 --> 02:37:08,119
Speaker 3: It got me.

2873
02:37:09,040 --> 02:37:11,160
Speaker 2: Sophomore in high school. But I mean, you have great hair,

2874
02:37:11,160 --> 02:37:13,879
Speaker 2: and it looks good. It looks great. It's kind of

2875
02:37:13,879 --> 02:37:14,600
Speaker 2: a touch of gray.

2876
02:37:14,640 --> 02:37:18,000
Speaker 7: Guy like Riches is like white white hair, and it

2877
02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:18,879
Speaker 7: was kind.

2878
02:37:18,760 --> 02:37:21,680
Speaker 2: Of a gray, peppery Greg things it's working. And then

2879
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:25,400
Speaker 2: there's Bo, who apparently is not a Phillies fan, but

2880
02:37:25,440 --> 02:37:27,920
Speaker 2: he doesn't hate the films. Yeah, I'm trying to figure

2881
02:37:27,959 --> 02:37:31,359
Speaker 2: this out. Do you actually have a firm allegiance in baseball?

2882
02:37:31,440 --> 02:37:33,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm a Dodgers fan all the way. I host

2883
02:37:33,720 --> 02:37:37,520
Speaker 8: a Dodgers podcast with the old friend Ryan Berschinger. Been

2884
02:37:37,560 --> 02:37:39,560
Speaker 8: going to Dodger games my entire life.

2885
02:37:40,000 --> 02:37:43,520
Speaker 2: I went to the Dodger game on Tuesday. It was

2886
02:37:43,600 --> 02:37:45,400
Speaker 2: the Arias Jersey Night.

2887
02:37:46,200 --> 02:37:47,720
Speaker 3: And did you get one?

2888
02:37:48,400 --> 02:37:52,640
Speaker 2: So here's what happened. This is a classic. So I

2889
02:37:52,680 --> 02:37:56,880
Speaker 2: went there with Denise, that's my ex and my three kids.

2890
02:37:57,240 --> 02:38:01,680
Speaker 2: So you know again kids are there in their twenties, right, Yeah,

2891
02:38:01,680 --> 02:38:03,400
Speaker 2: So the five of us go down to the game

2892
02:38:03,520 --> 02:38:06,160
Speaker 2: and Denise is walking. We're walking from the parking lot,

2893
02:38:06,200 --> 02:38:07,800
Speaker 2: and she has a purse. I go that purse is

2894
02:38:07,840 --> 02:38:11,200
Speaker 2: too big. She goes, no, they'll let me in. No,

2895
02:38:12,520 --> 02:38:16,600
Speaker 2: So Garrett had all the tickets on his phone. All right,

2896
02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:20,080
Speaker 2: So we got in the four of us because we

2897
02:38:20,120 --> 02:38:21,800
Speaker 2: want to make sure because they were gonna out like

2898
02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:25,880
Speaker 2: forty thousand of these jerseys. And then Garrett walked all

2899
02:38:25,920 --> 02:38:27,760
Speaker 2: the way back to the car to put back the

2900
02:38:27,800 --> 02:38:31,879
Speaker 2: purse and then re entered. So there were forty six

2901
02:38:31,920 --> 02:38:35,160
Speaker 2: thousand people forty thousand jerseys. Do the math, right. So

2902
02:38:35,320 --> 02:38:38,000
Speaker 2: I had the jersey in the wrapper underneath my seat,

2903
02:38:38,080 --> 02:38:39,960
Speaker 2: and I'm in the midst of all of us, right.

2904
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:43,240
Speaker 2: I only left my seat once and Denise and my

2905
02:38:43,320 --> 02:38:46,160
Speaker 2: daughter were still sitting there. So it's not now. Towards

2906
02:38:46,240 --> 02:38:48,720
Speaker 2: like the ninth inning, I reached underneath my seat, gone,

2907
02:38:49,280 --> 02:38:53,160
Speaker 2: somebody stole. Now I'm thinking about why would they do that?

2908
02:38:53,280 --> 02:38:57,200
Speaker 2: Like they gave away I know exactly yeah, yep, they'll

2909
02:38:57,200 --> 02:38:59,200
Speaker 2: do this. And then I turned around and I didn't.

2910
02:38:59,240 --> 02:39:03,920
Speaker 2: There was no one's seated directly behind me the entire game. Yeah,

2911
02:39:04,280 --> 02:39:06,560
Speaker 2: and still they got it. Unbelievable.

2912
02:39:06,680 --> 02:39:10,400
Speaker 3: I remember one time I got a game baseball, set

2913
02:39:10,440 --> 02:39:13,199
Speaker 3: it down at the concession stand to reach into my

2914
02:39:13,720 --> 02:39:17,200
Speaker 3: pocket for my phone or wallet or whatever, turn my

2915
02:39:17,280 --> 02:39:20,400
Speaker 3: back for a second to go to leave with the

2916
02:39:20,480 --> 02:39:22,400
Speaker 3: stuff I had paid for. Forgot that I left my

2917
02:39:22,440 --> 02:39:25,200
Speaker 3: baseball there. The guy behind me in line had already

2918
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:26,720
Speaker 3: jammed it in his pocket. Yeah.

2919
02:39:26,760 --> 02:39:27,200
Speaker 2: Gone.

2920
02:39:27,320 --> 02:39:31,120
Speaker 3: I literally walked back up. I was just like, hey, buddy,

2921
02:39:31,160 --> 02:39:33,000
Speaker 3: I had this ball sitting right there. I said it.

2922
02:39:33,040 --> 02:39:35,199
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, you have like a ball shaped

2923
02:39:35,920 --> 02:39:37,880
Speaker 3: area in your front pocket. I was like, I have

2924
02:39:37,959 --> 02:39:40,840
Speaker 3: my ball back, and he goes, oh, this was yours.

2925
02:39:42,480 --> 02:39:43,960
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, as a matter of fact, it was.

2926
02:39:44,440 --> 02:39:46,840
Speaker 2: It's not like I was gonna wear the jersey. I mean,

2927
02:39:46,879 --> 02:39:48,840
Speaker 2: I love going to Dodger Staff've already been to like

2928
02:39:48,840 --> 02:39:50,480
Speaker 2: three games this Year's been fine. I got to get

2929
02:39:50,520 --> 02:39:51,160
Speaker 2: down to peck.

2930
02:39:51,040 --> 02:39:53,520
Speaker 8: Oversus eighty five dollars on eBay right now for one

2931
02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:54,320
Speaker 8: of those jerseys.

2932
02:39:54,320 --> 02:39:56,520
Speaker 2: Eighty five dollars. Yeah, he got it. For free. So

2933
02:39:56,560 --> 02:39:59,160
Speaker 2: there it is. He made some money. I think it was.

2934
02:39:59,280 --> 02:40:01,320
Speaker 3: By the way, that's your jersey on the EBA that

2935
02:40:01,480 --> 02:40:02,480
Speaker 3: Bo just looked up.

2936
02:40:02,520 --> 02:40:06,440
Speaker 2: All right over under let's forget that. These points spreads

2937
02:40:06,520 --> 02:40:10,400
Speaker 2: eight and a half. Who you taking tonight Nuggets to

2938
02:40:10,520 --> 02:40:14,080
Speaker 2: cover the eight and a half? Yeow? Would you say

2939
02:40:14,120 --> 02:40:17,000
Speaker 2: go over twenty five and a half with Jimmy Butler? Yeah,

2940
02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:19,879
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna I'm always wrong, folks. Here it is,

2941
02:40:19,879 --> 02:40:22,680
Speaker 2: I'll lock it, take the heat, we'll cover the spread.

2942
02:40:22,800 --> 02:40:25,199
Speaker 2: This it's Fox Sports Radio.