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Speaker 3: Good Monday morning.

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Speaker 3: And there's just one big story.

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Speaker 4: The government is still shut down, but we're moving closer

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Speaker 4: Senator Cruz joins me to talk about exactly what's happening

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Speaker 5: Story number one.

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Speaker 4: All right, So Center, there was a lot of excitement

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Speaker 4: earlier Sunday evening. My phone blew up. I'm assuming you

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Speaker 4: wish that was true. You just described it as we've

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Speaker 5: Sides of the aisle.

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Speaker 1: So that package, those are three appropriation bills that were bipartisan.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, people are frustrated because they think, well,

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Speaker 4: You guys, the Repubublicans have been meeting right behind the scenes.

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Speaker 4: I mean Democrats are doing the same thing when they

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Speaker 4: I mean there's some like Fetterman that clearly were leaders

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Speaker 4: So when you don't get those votes, we move forward.

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Speaker 4: You said this thing could end up to Friday. You're

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Speaker 4: So you go into Monday, you're going to have more

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Speaker 1: We're anticipating the first vote probably around noon. And as

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Speaker 5: Like you can do that.

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Speaker 4: You know, literally, instead of us recording right now, you

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Speaker 5: Nope?

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Speaker 1: Nope, I'm in DC. I didn't see my family this weekend.

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Speaker 4: So one other question is this is unfolding. When the

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Speaker 4: Basically telling me is this week, when I'm flying, and

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