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Speaker 2: very chaotic and exciting week. Mitchell, I can't believe some

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Speaker 2: the way to your Detroit Lions. Mitchell. I know you

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Speaker 1: I do, rich but you gotta start out west. Your

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Speaker 1: West no team within what two games of them right now, Richard,

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Speaker 1: Well, before we get into that game, Richard, my thought

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Speaker 2: But this Detroit Lions team did take a step up.

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Speaker 1: You really want to go here, rich Eh.

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Speaker 2: I have to go here, Mitchell, we can't, we can't

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Speaker 1: I know you got to be tremendously bummed. I thought

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Speaker 2: Well, I got a lot of concern for the defensive

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Speaker 2: should be good, So I'm gonna say he's good. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not expecting this guy to be good. So even

429
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Speaker 2: if he's playing good, I'm not gonna give him that

430
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Speaker 2: kind of credit. Oh, this is a frustrating loss. I

431
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: know Kyle Shanahan's frustrated. I know Nick Sorenson's frustrated because

432
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, coaches can only do

433
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Speaker 2: so much. Coaches can scheme it up, call the play,

434
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: but you got to execute. If they call me in

435
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: the man and the corner gets beed, you could say

436
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: he should have called zone. If he calls one and

437
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 2: he gets beed, you could say he should call man.

438
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you got really

439
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 2: high level players that can execute and play the game

440
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 2: at a high level that you need to play. Players

441
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: got to play the games. Players win the game. Players

442
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: execute the scheme, Players make the scheme come to life.

443
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Players can turn a bad play into a good play.

444
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: Players can make a good scheme look like a bad scheme.

445
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: They have to execute at a better level. Defensively, they

446
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: have to get more pressure on these quarterbacks, and maybe

447
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: that's bringing five, maybe that's bringing six. Maybe they need

448
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: to go to that because right now that it used

449
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: to be a four man pressure, they can get home

450
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 2: and they're not doing that as consistently. They're not making

451
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: the quarterback uncomfortable and that's changing fundamentally the structure of

452
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: the defense. So the forty nine ers got the Patriots

453
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 2: next week. They have to find a way to win

454
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: that game. They have to find a way to get

455
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: back on track. Hopefully that's you know, they get healthier

456
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: in the meantime, Talanoah puts another game under his belt.

457
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: But they have to win that game, Mitchell. That is

458
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: the early season must win. If they lose that that game,

459
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: then the pan meter goes to a nine or team.

460
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, and but let me let me ease

461
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: the concern a little bit for you here, Richard, because

462
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: I know you remind me of me last week when

463
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: the Lions lost, when I asked you to talk me

464
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: off the led. Here, let me do the same for you, Richard.

465
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: The San Francisco forty nine Ers last year went through

466
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: a substantial losing streak in the midway point of the

467
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: season and everyone was freaked out. I remember you were

468
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: a little bit freaked out. I was a little concerned

469
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: for him as well. But Richard through oute this you know,

470
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: early season a drought, if you will. They've been playing

471
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Speaker 1: without CMC obviously now Kittle and Debo, but we've seen

472
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Speaker 1: these underlying players, these lesser known guys emerge, you know,

473
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Speaker 1: Jordan Mason, like we already talked about as soon as

474
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Speaker 1: CMC comes back, you know they're going to be able

475
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Speaker 1: to lean on Jordan Mason late, you know. I so

476
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Speaker 1: for me, I viewed that as a positive.

477
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Speaker 2: And then we.

478
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Speaker 1: Always loved third and Juwan Juwan Jennings. But Richard eleven

479
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 1: catch for one seventy five and three toddies. I mean,

480
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: you get him and Rookie Purcell going, and you get

481
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: Deebo back, you know, by week six, week seven, I

482
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: think the Niners return to where they were last year.

483
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, as a Lion fan, I'm

484
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: personally always going to be afraid of them, you know.

485
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: I think these injuries are going to allow them to

486
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: grow some of their lower tier players and elevate their

487
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: confidence levels. The one area concern I do have with

488
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: the Niners is you pay this guy, Brandon Ayuk all

489
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: this money in the offseason and he's got three straight

490
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: underwhelming games. Richard, this was his moment to shine. Everyone

491
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: thought Brandon Ayuk was going to blow up today. Without Debo,

492
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: without CMC, without Kittle, Who are you gonna target? You're

493
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: gonna target Brandon Ayuk And he walks away with an

494
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: underwhelming five catches for forty eight yards. Juwan Jennings turns

495
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: into be that go to guy, Richard, What is going

496
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: on with Brandon Ayuk right now?

497
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: Again, it's a lack of chemistry, Mitchell. You have to

498
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: put the time in. You have to put the time

499
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 2: in with these quarterbacks again and again and again. I'm

500
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: gonna keep saying it no matter what you say, Like, hey,

501
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: he was he was holding in in training camp, he

502
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: was in the building, he was working out standing shape,

503
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 2: getting treatment in the meetings, but he wasn't building a

504
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 2: rapport with quarterback like he did last season. And when

505
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: you don't do that in the game, I mean he

506
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: built a rapport with Juwan Jennings. They have built in

507
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: place and you can see it. He has a trust

508
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: in Juwan Jennings. He has a feel, he has an

509
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: understanding of where he's gonna be on the field and

510
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: where he likes the football and he puts it there

511
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: and you can see that throughout the ball game. It's

512
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: just it's just sad because you know, I'm glad that

513
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: Jawan got to have a game like this so that

514
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: the world can see what he's capable of, because he

515
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: gets buried below these superstars and deservedly so they deserve.

516
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Speaker 2: You know, Deebo deserves all the credit he deserves. Brandon

517
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: just got paid played it really has played really good football.

518
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: George Kettle, all these guys. But you never ever a

519
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: guy like that who's a really talented player, never gets

520
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: to shine in the way that he deserves until the

521
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: game like this, and then he shines and people are like,

522
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: where'd this come from? And it's like, well, if you

523
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: watch the Super Bowl, I mean he gets open, he

524
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: guesses the ball. He could do that against just about

525
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: anybody at any level. He's just not going to be

526
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: a targeted, a highly targeted guy in this offense, and

527
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: he never has been. But when he when he finally

528
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: got an opportunity to be targeted that way, he shined

529
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Speaker 2: in a big way. And I'm very happy for him,

530
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: happy for his family. I think he made himself a

531
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: lot of money today, and I just wish the defense

532
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: and the rest of the team could have could have

533
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: stepped up and finished this game off. You know, I

534
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: don't want to point the finger at anybody specifically. I

535
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: think everybody's gonna be able to look at the tape

536
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: and hold themselves accountable that they could have played a

537
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: better ball game and and and hopefully step up next

538
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: week and play a better ball game and get a

539
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: win against the New England Patriots to get back to

540
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Speaker 2: five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Let's turn to Indiana or Indianapolis. They get a much

542
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: needed to win against the Chicago Bears, and Richard, let's

543
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: go back to last week's podcast. You were highly critical

544
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: of the Bears offseason. They went with Roma Dunese, who

545
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: had a big game today, but they didn't go with

546
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman you talked about as a Bears fan.

547
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: When you see Justin Fields lead the Pittsburgh Steelers to

548
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: a three and oh record, and you think to yourself, man,

549
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: we could have had Marvin Harrison Junior and Joe Alt

550
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: potentially if we did not go with Caleb Williams. Richard,

551
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: all they had to do was trade back. They could

552
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: have got them both, and you gotta think, hey, did

553
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: we make the right move. I know Caleb Williams is

554
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. He finally got his first TD passes

555
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: of the season. He put up some big numbers today,

556
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, late late I don't want

557
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: to call it garbage time because they were in the game,

558
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: but late time needed passing yards down the stretch. Richard,

559
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Caleb Williams and this Bears team.

560
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: I had a lot higher expectations than what looks to

561
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: be another tough season for him.

562
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Speaker 2: Well, I have high expectations for their defense, and their

563
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 2: defense played an incredible game, So give them a lot

564
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: of credit. Their defense continues to find ways to keep

565
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: them in ball games to make big plays. Jalen Johnson ranted,

566
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: a program got another interception, huge play, trying to keep

567
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: these this guy in the ball game. But you look

568
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: at it and it's you know, and and and again.

569
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Speaker 2: I want to I want to double down on my

570
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: comments that I don't think that they made the right

571
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: decision in the draft in terms of not getting an

572
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Speaker 2: offensive lineman. Even if you did get Caleb Williams, I

573
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: thought the next pick should have been an offensive lineman,

574
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Speaker 2: and not that that's any shot against Roma Douonsa. He

575
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: should have went exactly where you would have went, and

576
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: he would have went that regardless if they were picking

577
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: or somebody else, because he was an elite receiver coming

578
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: into this draft. But you look at the issues that

579
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: are prevalent and consists only showing up. It's Caleb holding

580
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: the ball too long, trying to wait for a big

581
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: play and not just taking what the defense gives him.

582
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: That's something a young guy is just gonna have to learn.

583
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: That was his problem at USC and a lot of

584
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: these games he would not take what the defense gave him.

585
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: He passed up a hitch for a bomb all day

586
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: throughout the game, and you can't do that in the

587
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: National Football League. You have to take what the defense

588
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: gives you. And then even when he's trying to take

589
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: what the defense gives him, he's late. He's late. And

590
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: there were times this offensive line, the Chicago Bears offensive line,

591
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: gave him time metchro four five seconds to go through

592
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: his progressions bang bang bang go boom boom boom, and

593
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: then he gets to the last read and throws a

594
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Speaker 2: pick because he's late and in the National Football League,

595
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: corners and DB's are ahead of you. We're step ahead.

596
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: We see where you're looking. We say, hey, if he

597
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: comes back here, that's a pick all right. If he

598
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: comes back here, that's a bat down. Like they already know,

599
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: they're planning for your second move. You make get your

600
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: first read. You may get your first read that hey,

601
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: you hit your back foot in rhythm, let the ball go.

602
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: You should have a little bit of separation or the

603
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: zone may be slightly open. But as the tie, as

604
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: the clock hicks to your second read, things get tighter.

605
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: And as a third read, things get tighter. And then

606
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: you get to your fourth read and it's tiny windows

607
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: mitt with the windows are really small, and he has

608
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: to learn that. He has to learn you can't go

609
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: late to your fourth read and let it be a

610
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: hitch into a cover two corner that's been sitting there

611
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: waiting for you to come back to this, praying for

612
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 2: you to come back to this, and then you come

613
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: and you reward them, and so these that's just the

614
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: learning that he needs to go through. He did get

615
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: some a lot of garbage time yards. He got a

616
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: nice touchdown throw to Roma Doomsay, a nice deep throw

617
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: to Roma Doonzay right before the interception, and you got

618
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: to give him credit. And I like that he kept

619
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: fighting throughout the game, and you know some of it

620
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: was garbage time yards, but even the garbage time yards

621
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: are nice because you get to see him do some

622
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: of the things that they drafted him to do, some

623
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: of the things you saw him do in college when

624
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: he was playing really special football and you see him

625
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: getting out of the pocket, you know, squaring his body up,

626
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: slinging it, slinging the rock and around the yard and

627
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: hitting different receivers and it's being effective. He needs to

628
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: see that. It's like in a basketball game, even if

629
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: it's garbage time, you got a guy who's been in

630
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: a slump and he starts to see the basketball go

631
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: through the hoop. Mitchell, next game, that might be the

632
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: game that he breaks through because he got to see

633
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: some success. He got to see the ball go through

634
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: the basket. And that's why this garbage time in this

635
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: game was good for Caleb Williams in some ways. But

636
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: it's bad because he threw the interceptions and all that,

637
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: but he at least he got to see himself have

638
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: some semblance of success in a National Football League game,

639
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: and that's good for the freuture and that bodes well.

640
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: But as I said before, Mitchell, I think they could

641
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: have done. I went a different way. But in that case,

642
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: which would be regretting not getting Caleb Williams because if

643
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: he goes to a team with better structure, better you know,

644
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: maybe a better coordinator, maybe a better system. You know,

645
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: does he does he thrive earlier or does he sit

646
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: a little bit and then thrive? You know who knows?

647
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: And sometimes back to what we were talking about before,

648
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: the perfect system makes a player elevate in a way

649
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: and really showcases talents in a way that individuals in

650
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: a bad system are individuals that are just trying to

651
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: improvise and make the best of a situation. They rarely shine.

652
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: Well, Richard, He's gonna have an opportunity next week against

653
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: the beat up Rams. We'll see if he can return

654
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: to the winning column for the Bears. Richard America's Game

655
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: of the Week in Dallas, the Dallas Cowboys desperately needing

656
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: a win against the zero and to Baltimore Ravens. The

657
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens came in and show case that they wanted

658
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: this game a lot more. What are you more surprised of, Richard,

659
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: The fact that the Baltimore Ravens beat Dallas on their

660
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: own turf, for the fact that Dallas just flat out

661
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: didn't show up.

662
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about Dallas. Dallas has at least for the

663
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 2: last few years, been a very very good home team.

664
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: They've been very good at home. They won a lot

665
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: of ball games. I want to say they were undefeated.

666
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: I mean, they had won something like sixteen straight at

667
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: home something like that last year, and so to lose

668
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: back to back games, you know, they got blown out

669
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 2: by the New Orleans Saints, and the New Orleans Saints

670
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: ran the football all over the Dallas Cowboys. And that's

671
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: been the mic. That's been a book on a Mike

672
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: Zimmer defense for a long time. I mean, unless he

673
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: had big people eaters at the detackle spots and at

674
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: the nose and three technique when he had Lynn Vale

675
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: and those boys, teams have had success running against that

676
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: too high quarters defense that he's that he's been known

677
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: for for a number of years. And that's why I

678
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: don't think anybody was looking to hire him as their coordinator,

679
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: because he has to find a way to rectify that.

680
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 2: And this has been evident in these last two games.

681
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean they ran for two to seventy five Mentel

682
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: two seventy five on him, Like two seventy five is

683
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: incredible for a team to run in an NFL game

684
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: against another NFL team, even a bad team. And this

685
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 2: isn't a bad team. This is a really talented Dallas

686
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 2: Cowboys team. And they weren't able to stop the run,

687
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: and they haven't been able to stop it for the

688
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: last two weeks at home. That's a terrible trait to have.

689
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: They they're not great at getting leads, they haven't been

690
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: great at containing these guys. Lamar Jackson only threw the

691
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: ball fifteen times for one hundred and eighty two yards

692
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: through for one touchdown. He ran it fourteen times for

693
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: eighty seven yards. Kyle Vanoid again was his resurgence with

694
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens had two sacks. That defense is starting

695
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: to get its rhythm back. Obviously, the Cowboys were able

696
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: to make some hay late in the game. Dak Prescott

697
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: ends the game twenty eight to fifty one for three

698
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: seventy nine and two touchdowns, one rushing touchdown. Jake Ferguson

699
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: had five catches for ninety five yards. Ceedee Lamb there

700
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: was a heated moment. There were heated moments on the

701
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: sideline between Dak Prescott and Cedee Lamb and CD Lamb say,

702
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: I ain't going nowhere. I'm gonna be here. Get me

703
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: the ball, Get me the ball. They already paid me.

704
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm not going nowhere. You're not going nowhere. Give me

705
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: the ball. Throw me the football. You saw what kind

706
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 2: of success we could have when I get the ball.

707
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: For some reason, they weren't able to connect. Ceedee Lamb

708
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: obviously had to turnover in the red zone when they

709
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: were you know, it was fourteen to three. It was

710
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: a red zone fumble. I'm sure he wants that one back,

711
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: but you still got to feed him the ball. Cavante

712
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: Turpin and Jalen Tobert both had a receiving TV. There

713
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: was a lot of hype about Jalen Tobert coming out

714
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: of training camp that he was going to have a

715
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: really breakout season. That hasn't really been the case in

716
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: this pass rush. This pass rush that they've been it's

717
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: been so devastating under Dan Quinn. Listen, Tommy Mitchell, under

718
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn. This pass rush has been elite. The secondary

719
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: under our Harris has been elite. The pass rush gets

720
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: one quarterback hit, no sacks in this ballgame of Lamar Jackson,

721
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson obviously is one of the best quarterbacks

722
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: that avoiding a sack, getting out of tough situations. But

723
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: this old line has given up sacks. This Baltimore old

724
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: line has given up sacks, They've given up pressure. And

725
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: this has been consecutive games where you just aren't seeing

726
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: the same quality of defense from the Dallas Cowboys from

727
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: that front that has been so so elite and so aggressive.

728
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons has been getting ten plus sacks, been All

729
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: Pro multiple times, and you're just not seeing that that

730
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: kind of pop, that kind of sparked that kind of speed.

731
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: And that's concerning to me that the defensive side of

732
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: the ball is where the concern is, because I mean,

733
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: you're not gonna stop Derrick Henry. But we watched we

734
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: just watched this team lose to the to the UH

735
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: they lost the Raiders at home, and like, I don't

736
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I mean, obviously they lost Kansas

737
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: City at first game, so you can you can give

738
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: them that with a watch, but to lose to the

739
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: Raiders and then the Cowboys get really manhandled for a

740
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: great portion of this game. You've got to be really

741
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: concerned if you're a Cowboys fan, because you don't know

742
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: where you're gonna hang your hat, Like, what do we

743
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: hang our hat on? Now? They're not running. They can't

744
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: run the ball at all, not that they can't run

745
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: it well, they can't run it at all, Like they

746
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: have no semblance of a running game. The offensive line,

747
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: the left tackle, you're replacing a legend. But it's just

748
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: really really a spot that they've always had so much

749
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: security and so much stability, and now you see the

750
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: left tackle giving up pressure into Dak's lap consistently. You know,

751
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 2: you can't, can't hold up. And it's just certain things

752
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: that were almost a given with the Dallas Cowboys that

753
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: aren't anymore. And it's really really concerning. And they got

754
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: the Giants. We got the Dallas Cowboys and the Giants

755
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: in New York this Thursday, seven pm Eastern on Prime Video,

756
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: and I look forward to seeing that because the Giants

757
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: played a solid ball game this week. They played a

758
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: solid ball game. It was probably Daniel Jones' best game

759
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: in probably a few years. Malik Neighbors really put on

760
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: a big time show. See ran the ball well defensively,

761
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: they made some plays. It was it was fun to

762
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: watch that. And that's the team that's that's getting confident

763
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: and on the up, upward slop slope. And if the

764
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys continued on this downward spiral, this Thursday Night

765
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: football could be I mean a house of horrors if

766
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: the if the Giants somehow pull out a victory on

767
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: prime time, on prime video, I think we I'm with.

768
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: You, Richard, I would be mighty concerned about them. I mean,

769
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: if it weren't for this fourth quarter where they made

770
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: the look the game looks somewhat close. I mean, this

771
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: team's been getting bullied for the last seven quarters of

772
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: football they've played. I mean, the Saints game was an embarrassment,

773
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: and this game was too. Right off the gates, Baltimore

774
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: goes down, scores, they score again, and they just take

775
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: control and sit on the lead and like they just

776
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: pounding the rock. I mean, Derek Henry had an average

777
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: over six yards of carry today with two touchdowns. I mean, Richard,

778
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: if you put the Ravens in a position of a

779
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: multi score lead early. They're probably the most dangerous team

780
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL because they have the versatility with the

781
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: run game and the pass game to be able to

782
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: sit on leagues and make life very difficult, especially for

783
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, Richard, Like you said, if they lose

784
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: this game against the Giants, concern level ten in Dallas.

785
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: We got to talk about the NFC North a little

786
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: bit more here. Let's go up to Minnesota. We were

787
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: talking a bit about an off air. Is there a

788
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: more surprising team in the league right now than the

789
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings and the way they've been playing football?

790
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, no, no, there isn't. I'll say that

791
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: there isn't a more surprising team because they're playing in

792
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: such a dominant fashion. I mean, and they're playing against

793
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: teams that in the preseason myself, you a lot of

794
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: the experts had as some of the elite teams. At

795
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: Houston Texans one of the best seams. We talked about

796
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: them making the AFC Championship, potentially San Francisco forty nine

797
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: ers coming off the Super Bowl. You know, they just

798
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: went to the Super Bowl appearance. It beat him pretty handily.

799
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: Uh and pretty impressively. Not it wasn't a blowout like

800
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: they did against Houston, but it was. It was impressive

801
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 2: and it did. They were in control a lot of

802
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: that ball game. Brian Flores kept Kyle Shanahan and and

803
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: and kept uh has really kept Bobby Slowick on his

804
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: heels this last game. I mean it's it's you. You

805
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: heard brock Perty after the game say, man, you you

806
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: you give us some really tough looks like there that's

807
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: a tough defense to go against. Man Like, he had

808
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 2: to give him a pat on the back. Because the coach,

809
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: like Brian Flores, is a mad scientist. He brings it,

810
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: brings pressure from different places. And then he got Stefan Gilmour,

811
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: which is one of the most underrated pickups of the offseason.

812
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: And you look look up and you see both safeties down.

813
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: You see seven men down and looks like they're playing

814
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: zero and the safeties pop out and now they're playing

815
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 2: an inverted cover two and the two corners go deep

816
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: to take the two deep halves of the field away,

817
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: and then they run another nickel down the middle as

818
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: the middle run through player and you're like, by the

819
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: time the quarterback realizes what the coverage is he's got

820
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: two three people bringing him down to the ground. And

821
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: that's what CJ. Stroud was dealing with a majority of

822
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: this ball game. And we're gonna keep going about this

823
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 2: defense because he has a lot of guys playing at

824
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 2: a high level. Cam Binam played in good football, KAMU

825
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: grudge your heel played some good football. Jonathan Grenard, the

826
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: ex Houston Texan, had three sacks in this game. He's

827
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: getting production from all over the place. And you always

828
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: thought once they lost to Neil Hunter, like, where would

829
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: they get the production from? Where would they get the

830
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: sack production from? And we're seeing it. We're getting it

831
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: from a lot of different people. And it's because the

832
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: variety of the looks in the discuss that come with

833
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: the Brian Flores coach defense is just two a perfect

834
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: symbiosis of things coming together, along with Kevin O'Connell's offense

835
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: and Sam Darnald playing like an MVP caliber quarterback. Now

836
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: let me stop because I have to say it one

837
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: more time. Sam Darnold is playing like an MVP quality quarterback.

838
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: And you can argue with somebody else because he didn't

839
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: have success in the past and he struggled at in

840
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: New York, et cetera, et cetera. I don't care about

841
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: what happened in the past. What happened right now is

842
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: he has eight touchdown passes on the season, which leads

843
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: the National Football League. He is in a perfect system

844
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: for a skill set. He has one of the if

845
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: not the best receiver in the National Football League, and

846
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson, he has a really good running back in

847
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: receiving back in Aaron Jones, who's been criminally underrated during

848
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: his time in Green Bay, but stays in the n

849
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: North and continues to play at a high level. Nineteen

850
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 2: carries for one hundred and two yards, five receptions for

851
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: forty six yards in a touchdown. Sam Darnold is playing

852
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: really good football. This is the guy that they expected

853
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: coming out of USC And again, to the point I've

854
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: been trying to make for the last two weeks, sometimes

855
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: sometimes it's not best to play him first. It's not

856
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes they need to sit and learn and absorb, and

857
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: then they get to a good place in a good system,

858
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: and thank goodness, I'm sure Sam would say the same

859
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: thing for the journey that he's been on to get

860
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: to the perfect place. For him to showcase his ability,

861
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: and he looks like a hand and glove fit in

862
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's offense coming from San Francisco and Kyle Shanahan's

863
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: offense and everything that he learned during his year in

864
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: San Francisco. I'm so happy for him. I'm happy for

865
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: his career. Justin Jefferson had six catches for eighty one yards.

866
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: Looks like his old self. But this team just overall,

867
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: they beat the Houston Texans, and they beat them bad,

868
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: thirty four to seven, Like that doesn't happen. Houston is

869
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: a really talented team with a quarterback that most, including myself,

870
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: believe is a top five quarterback in the National Football League.

871
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: In CJ. Stroud. He was held to two hundred and

872
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: fifteen yards passing one touchdown, two interceptions, and he was

873
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 2: sacked four times. Sure, the defense showed up in some respects.

874
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: Tim Settle had two sacks. Will Anderson Junior continues to

875
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: play at a high level, had a sack in the game.

876
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: But I mean all levels, all three phases. The Minnesota

877
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: Vikings looked like a very tough team, and we didn't

878
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 2: think that in the NFC North, we thought it was

879
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: Detroit's to run away with however they wanted to. In

880
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: the way it's looking right now, the Packers are finding

881
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: a way to weather the storm of the Jordan injury.

882
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Malik Willis going back to Tennessee and having

883
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: a kind of revenge game that he had in Jordan

884
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: Love's absence. He looks like an entirely different player than

885
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: he looked in Tennessee. And I'm sure the Tennessee the

886
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans fans were like, wait, who is this guy?

887
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: And who kidnapped Malik Willis and put this other guy

888
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 2: in this jersey because this guy was threading the needle,

889
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: running using his legs when he's supposed to being patient

890
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: in the pocket, making great decisions and just leading this

891
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: team with a very boys sense of confidence, and his

892
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: leadership was outstanding in that ball game. Houston goes to

893
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: play face Jacksonville and that's gonna be a good divisional game.

894
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: I mean, the Vikings at the Packers these two divisional games,

895
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they'll tell us a lot. But right now,

896
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: to Minnesota, Vikings look legit, Richard.

897
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: It looked like dark days were ahead for the Vikings

898
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: when Kirk Cousins packed his things up and left town.

899
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you asked every Minnesota fan, they say

900
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: they probably couldn't dream up a better situation at quarterback.

901
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: You go out and you get your guy and JJ

902
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: McCarthy in the draft, and then you sign a veteran

903
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: journeyman now in Sam Donald to be his backup. But

904
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: like you said, Sam Donald, they get him on a

905
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: veteran very low down. I don't know what the veteran

906
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: minimum is, but six point five million dollars for Sam

907
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: Donald is what they're paying him this year, Richard. This

908
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: is they could not have picked a better situation in

909
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: Minnesota with that transition from Kirk Cousins. Sam Donald's gonna

910
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: keep him competitive. As a Detroit Lion fan, this team

911
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: scares me. I mean, you already touched on Aaron Jones,

912
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: you got Justin Jefferson. Let's not forget they're gonna get TJ.

913
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: Hockinson later back later this year, Richard, this team looks

914
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: very competitive. And Aaron Jones today really impressed me. He

915
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: was running Oliver Field, catching balls, running between the middle,

916
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, very athletic plays, and that's what we talked

917
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: about earlier in the year, and even in the offseason.

918
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: It shocked me that the Green Bay Packers moved on

919
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: from Aaron Jones and chose to pay more for Josh Jacobs.

920
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: I get he's older, but Aaron Jones just adds a

921
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: huge dynamic in that in that receiving game. The Vikings

922
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: to me look like a much improved team from last year.

923
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm worried about them.

924
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Richard, we gotta go. We got to start to

925
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: have a deeper dive conversation into what because if you

926
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: look at the quarterback rankings, if you look at completion

927
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 2: percentage the quarterbacks and how they rank this season over

928
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: the first three games, completion percentage, yards per game, yards, touchdowns,

929
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, You're not gonna see a lot

930
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: of the highest paid guys in the order that you're

931
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: gonna think. You're gonna see a lot of guys making

932
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: under ten million dollars or making under thirty million dollars

933
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: at the top of these categories leading their teams and

934
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: the guys that's making fifty million dollars right in the middle.

935
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: And maybe that changes over the seventeen game. See, but

936
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: it's not looking like these guys are overwhelmed I mean

937
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: we I'm not feeling like, hey, if you if you

938
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 2: put freaking Sam Darnold versus versus any of these guys

939
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: that you're you're I mean, outside of Patrick Mahomes, You're

940
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 2: not gonna feel like he's outmatched. I'm not feeling like, hey,

941
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: if I play him against Joe burrow Man, he's just

942
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: gonna be so outclassed. He's not. And I don't feel

943
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: that way about Geno Smith. I think you've got to

944
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: start looking at this and under a microscope and start

945
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: to understand maybe these guys it's a system. Maybe getting

946
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 2: the right coordinator and the guys that actually put time

947
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 2: into game planning and coming up with a great game plan,

948
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: a phenomenal plan both rushing the football and passing and

949
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 2: attacking these defenses, and you playing to the quarterback strengths.

950
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: Maybe that's more important than drafting these kids high, because

951
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: some of these guys who weren't as heralded as as

952
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: they were in the past are having a lot of

953
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: success in systems that do exactly that they Kevin O'Connell

954
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: has done a great job. He did a great job

955
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: when Kirk Cousins was there. I mean, they we talked

956
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: about when Dobbs got a chance to play and a

957
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: little bit of success that he was able to have

958
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: just being a plug and play guy. You know, I

959
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: think he had a couple of days to learn the

960
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: playbook before his first game and he was able to execute.

961
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: You have to start to think about that if you're

962
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: an owner, about how we really start to build these

963
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 2: teams and how important these offensive coordinators and play callers

964
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: really are and can you have success with a great

965
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: play caller and a quarterback who may not be a

966
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: top five pick. The answer is yes.

967
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: Well, Richard at before we leave this subject, like this

968
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: is the first time in Sam Darnold's career where he's

969
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: never had to really look over his shoulder and say, man,

970
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: how tight is this leash? I mean, with JJ McCarthy

971
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: going off in the offseason, you hate to see it,

972
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: especially for a young player, but it's almost like it

973
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: gave him that sense of relief, like, Okay, this job

974
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: is mine. I can play with you know, a little

975
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: loose and go out there and be instinctual. He just

976
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: looks like a completely different quarterback to me. The game

977
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: looks like it's slowed down for him, which you hear

978
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: about all the times players go throughout their career, and

979
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: like you said, Richard, he's playing with an OC that

980
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: is tailoring to his strengths and that's probably what he

981
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: has not had in the past. Sam Darnold is a

982
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: true revelation in Minnesota, and like I said, this team

983
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: scares a little bit hack out of me.

984
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: Richard.

985
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Let's go to Pittsburgh because this team,

986
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: another shocking, surprising team, much like the Minnesota Vikings, is

987
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: these Pittsburgh Steelers, who I doubt anyone saw starting the

988
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: season off three and oh, especially without their presumed starter

989
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Richard, it's Justin Fields leading this team to

990
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: a three and oh start. Let's start with Justin Fields

991
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: even when Russ is healthy. Who's starting.

992
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: That's a great question, Mitchell, because I thought that was

993
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: an easy answer, and I'm sure Tomlin does too. But

994
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: I got a little backlash from that for thinking that

995
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: Justin Fields will continue to hold the helm, and this

996
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: game did nothing to make me uneasy about that decision.

997
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: Justin Fields was twenty five of thirty two two hundred

998
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: and forty five yards, a touchdown and interception, and ran

999
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: one end he looked like he had great command of

1000
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: this offense. He I mean Calvin Austin, congratulations to him.

1001
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: He was on the receiving end of another number of

1002
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: Gestion Fields's passes, I mean just slant routes where he

1003
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 2: just turned it up the field and got more. Even

1004
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 2: on his fifty five yard touchdown, he caught a slat

1005
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 2: and got going Mitchell. It was a beautiful play. Cam

1006
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: Hayward able to get a sack. This defense is the

1007
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 2: story of this team, and it has been a story

1008
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: of this team and has been a story of a

1009
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 2: lot of Mike Tomlin's tenure in Pittsburgh. They held almost

1010
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: all their opponents to under ten ten points, and that

1011
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: says a lot about TJ. Watt Nick Herbig had two

1012
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: sacks in the game. But I thought, I honestly thought

1013
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: that in a game an old school dragout run the

1014
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: football defensive ball came that this new age LA Chargers team,

1015
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: with the amount of talent and Justin Herbert just being

1016
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: the X factor, would be able to pull out a win.

1017
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: But my bad, Pittsburgh, that's on me. Should never doubt

1018
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: you won't happen again. Just they held Justin Herbert in check.

1019
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: I mean to the point where he I think he

1020
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: came in a little banged up and had to leave

1021
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: the game early. The pain got to be too much.

1022
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: They held JK. Dobbins, who's been an incredible story throughout

1023
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: this season, to fifteen carries for forty four yards. Quentin Johnson,

1024
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: who's been a really cool resurgence story. People were calling

1025
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: him a bus too many drop, calling for him to

1026
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: get cut even in training camp this season, caught his

1027
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: third touchdown in the last two weeks, had a really

1028
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: good game. Khalil Mack another sack, Derwin James as sack.

1029
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: But you just look at how this team is rallying

1030
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: around justin fields, how they're talking about him in interviews,

1031
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 2: how Tomlin's talking about him, the energy. I mean, they're

1032
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: three and oh they're three, and oh they've won every game,

1033
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: and then they're going into Indianapolis three and oh, what

1034
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: a chance to be four. And though I don't see

1035
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: any reason they can't beat the in Indianapolis coach with

1036
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: the way Anthony Richardson is kind of you know, Jacquelyn Hoyte.

1037
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 2: He throws a really good ball sometimes, but sometimes he's inaccurate. Obviously,

1038
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: they're running the ball really well with Jonathan Taylor. But

1039
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 2: I feel like Pittsburgh is prepared for that. I feel

1040
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: like Pittsburgh is built to beat a team like that.

1041
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: And if you're talking about him going in four and

1042
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: oh and then Russell Wilson is one hundred percent health,

1043
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 2: he's ready to go, It's gonna be a difficult conversation

1044
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: even for the most adamant Russell Wilson fans and supporters

1045
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, we're gonna take Justin j We're gonna

1046
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: take Justin Fields off the field and put Russell in

1047
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: and we're gonna continue to win because you don't know.

1048
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: And it's unfair to Russell in that situation because it's

1049
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: gonna be such a short leash from both the fans

1050
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 2: and the public that if they lose the next game

1051
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: and it may be a tougher opponent maybe I got

1052
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 2: to look at their schedule, but maybe they run into

1053
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 2: a true contender in the next game and a really

1054
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: tough opponent, and now Russell has to be tasked with

1055
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: winning that game. Because if you sit there and say,

1056
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: Justin Fields has won every single game that he's had

1057
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: as a Pittsburgh Steeler, and now Russell has lost the

1058
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 2: first game he gets to I don't know, to Kansas

1059
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: City Chiefs. If the Kansas City Chiefs coming to town

1060
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: and beat Pittsburgh and you're like, well, Russell lost is

1061
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: that game? He's on one, he's four and zero. It's

1062
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 2: just a ridiculous conversation that doesn't need to happen. I

1063
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: think you've got to continue to go with Justin Justin

1064
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 2: fields and let him continue to develop. It seems like

1065
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: he's finding a rhythm. He's starting to become the player

1066
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: that they thought he would be. The team is rallying

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00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: behind him, the defense is rallying behind him. I mean,

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00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: you can do it. You can put Russell way Inn.

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00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: You can put Russell Wayne. Russell is a proven veteran

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00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: who's won a lot of football games in this league.

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00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: I just don't see how you do it. I don't

1072
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: see how you justify it to the staff, to the players,

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00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: and to the fans.

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00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you, rich but I imagine Russell Wilson wants

1075
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: this job bad. I mean, if nothing else to prove,

1076
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: you know, he is the player he was in Seattle.

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00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean this is important for his legacy, Richard. I

1078
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: mean he was a Super Bowl winning quarterback in Seattle,

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00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: had some great moments playing with you, you know, rose

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00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: to the occasion a lot of times. But then he

1081
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: goes to Denver and that sunny blue sky legacy that

1082
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: he'd built in Seattle is now covered with cloud and

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00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: no one really knows what's who Russell Wilson is. And

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00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: this was his opportunity to showcase, Hey, I'm still that

1085
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: same guy.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 1: It puts Tomlin in a very tough spot. I'm sure

1088
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: he likes the situation he's in now because he says, hey,

1089
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: we're roll with Justin Fields. I got no other choice.

1090
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: It takes the decision out of his hands, and now

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00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna make the decision even harder when when Russell

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00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: Wilson comes back. I would love to see Russell Wilson

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00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: gett an opportunity just because I'm curious to see how

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: he plays with this team. I think Pittsburgh's a heck

1095
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: of a lot better than Denver, so but we shall see,

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00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: we shall see.

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00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: And like you said, even in that case, Mitchell, they're

1098
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 2: gonna say we were already, Like even if Russell comes

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00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: in and has incredible success, like if there they continue

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00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: to win, and they go four and O five and

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00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 2: oh six and oh, you know, go to the playoffs.

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00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: People are gonna say Justin Justin Fields is already winning.

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00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: You know it was it Russell Wilson or was it

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: just It's just plug and play any quarterback. And so

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: even to that point in terms of legacy building and

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00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: who gets the credit to Tomlin's gonna get to credit

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00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: Mitchell because Tomlin is the guy that continues to win

1108
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: despite all the movie pieces, all the chaos, all the interchange,

1109
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 2: the injuries, this, that, and the third. This is one

1110
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: of the best starts that they've had. And if they're

1111
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: able to start four and oh with Justin Field tech quarterback,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm with you, Richard.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Las Vegas. A little bit of a surprise.

1114
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: This weekend showed me the NFL is still the NFL,

1115
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: and these teams are still NFL teams. Everyone rode off

1116
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, everyone rode off the New York Giants.

1117
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: Both of these teams go and get huge wins. In Carolina,

1118
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: they sub and out goes Bryce Young, incomes Andy Dalton,

1119
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: the griddled Vet comes in and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: Carolina looks like a completely different squad. And before we

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Speaker 1: get going, Richard, we gotta this is it's time for

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Speaker 1: our players in Prime Tide segment brought to you by

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Speaker 1: our friends and partners over at Brightling. Richard, I got

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Speaker 1: mine on that Honolulu Blue and silver, got so many

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Speaker 1: compliments already. This weekend home brought him a win with

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Speaker 1: it on a heck. I had a wedding last night, Richard,

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01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: and I wore this to the wedding with a Honolulu

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Speaker 1: Blue tie. I know you saw videos from that wedding.

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Speaker 1: I was having a great time.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: This week's players in Prime Time player it is Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: I mean talk to me about his performance because it

1133
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: was a good one.

1134
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 2: The red rifle. The red Rifle. Mitchell. He's a guy

1135
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: that I knew was capable of doing this because I

1136
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: played against him. He came into the same draft pass

1137
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: as me. He's he's done this for a long time.

1138
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: He's He's rifle Rojo is what Andrew Whitworth texta group

1139
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 2: because he played with him for a long time in Cincinnati.

1140
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: And he's a guy in a good system which Dave

1141
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: can Alice has can be really effective. And that's what

1142
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: the frustration that Dave Canalis who's dealing with the first

1143
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: two weeks of the season, because he's you go through

1144
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: all this training camps, ota is and everything, give you

1145
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: hype your team up. You feel good about the guys

1146
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: that you picked up, the guys that you got. You say, hey,

1147
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: we're going to go optimistically into the season. We can

1148
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: go to the playoffs and then to see that you

1149
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: can't even evaluate how good your team is because the

1150
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: quarterback isn't able to read the defense, he's not able

1151
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: to prepare, he's not able to execute even the simplest things.

1152
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: You got to pull the plug. And it's a hard decision,

1153
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: especially as a first year head coach, to pull the

1154
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: decision on a number one pick his second year in

1155
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: the National Football League. So give him credit for going

1156
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: to the ownership and saying, hey, you hired me to

1157
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: do a job, and I'm not able to do this

1158
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: job if you continue to make me play this kid,

1159
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,479
Speaker 2: because you're about to have us all get fired because

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 2: I can't show you how good the defense. I can't

1161
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: show you how good Trouble Hubbard is. Chubble Hubbard had

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Speaker 2: twenty one carries for one hundred and fourteen yards, five

1163
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: catches for fifty five yards and a touchdown. I can't

1164
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 2: show you how good he is because they don't respect

1165
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: our quarterback. So they're gonna keep eight people in the box.

1166
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Speaker 2: They're gonna sit on every route. They're gonna freaking blitz

1167
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: us until the cows come home. Then you insert I

1168
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: can't show you how good deontaey Johnson is. Hey, we

1169
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 2: traded for him. We traded him from the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: We thought this would be a good pick. I can't

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01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: show you that he's a good player because we don't

1172
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Speaker 2: have a guy that's getting him to the ball consistently.

1173
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: Insert Andy Dawden. He goes in his first game this season,

1174
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: twenty six to thirty seven, three to nineteen, three touchdowns,

1175
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Speaker 2: the first quarterback this season with three hundred plus yards

1176
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Speaker 2: and three d tds in one game. Carolina had been

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Speaker 2: outscored seventy three to thirteen in the first two weeks.

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Speaker 2: And we're not even talking about their defensive coordinator, because

1179
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: their defensive coordinator in Carolina is really good. But again,

1180
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: you can't show it if you don't have the offense

1181
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: to go along with it. You playing hopeless defense. And

1182
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,479
Speaker 2: so it was really great. This This is the same

1183
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: La Las Vegas Raiders team that just beat the Baltimore

1184
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: Ravens twenty six to twenty three in Baltimore. So let's

1185
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 2: not act like this is just some throwaway win. Las

1186
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: Vegas is coming off a huge win on the road.

1187
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: So to go into Las Vegas and beat this team

1188
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: in the convincing fashion, scoring thirty six points the way

1189
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Speaker 2: they did, Egiro ever roll in this defense has to

1190
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: have to be feeling really good offensively, they have to be.

1191
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of cheers in going on

1192
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: on that plane ride back to Carolina because they feel like, Hey,

1193
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 2: this is the team that we knew we had, and

1194
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: this is gonna be good for Bryce too. Hey, Bryce,

1195
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: this is a pro. This is a veteran quarterback, a

1196
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: guy that has had tremendous success in this league. Watch him.

1197
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: Take your notes, learn from him, learn the things he's doing,

1198
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: Bounce ideas off of him, ask him questions. I don't

1199
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Speaker 2: think Andy Dalton is sitting there trying to like hide

1200
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Speaker 2: things from you. He feels very secure in who he is,

1201
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: his family and his faith. I think this is good

1202
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: for everybody involved. It's good for Carolina, and it was

1203
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 2: great to see that team come away with when obviously

1204
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders were very frustrated. Gardner Minshew eighteen

1205
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: to two hundred and fourteen yards, one touchdown, one interception.

1206
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: Devonte Adams was sitting there at halftime shell shot by

1207
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: what he was seeing from this Carolina Panthers team. But

1208
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 2: Panthers go to the Bengals, and speaking of fifty million

1209
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: dollars quarterbacks, this is again going to start a very

1210
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: difficult conversation if the Cincinnati Bengals are not able to

1211
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Speaker 2: beat the Carolina Panthers in the red rifle, if the

1212
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: red rifle goes and beats the Sense Bengals and Joe

1213
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Speaker 2: Burrow again our conversation about elite quarterbacks and what they

1214
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Speaker 2: really are and who they really are and how much

1215
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: support they need around them. Like you all say about

1216
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: these game managers, they need all this support, Well so

1217
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: do the elites outside of Patrick Mahomes. And now we

1218
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: got to give Josh Allen credit. He doesn't have a

1219
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: ton of superstars or big name receivers and he's finding

1220
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: ways to win. So give him that credit. And I'm

1221
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: ready to give him that credit. But outside of that.

1222
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: Don't give me that. Everybody else needs skis and brock

1223
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: Purty just showed he can do it with Jawan Jennings

1224
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 2: going eleven catches for one hundred and seventy five yards

1225
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 2: and three touchdowns. So again, don't give me that, Richard.

1226
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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: I mean the Panthers, they look a lot better this

1228
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 1: week than they have in weeks past. Shout out again

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Speaker 1: to Andy Dalton, are Brightling player in primetime, guys, make

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Speaker 1: sure is gonna stay in my family for a generation

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Speaker 1: or two.

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Speaker 2: Richard, Well, Mitchell, it's been a fantastic episode. Thank you

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Speaker 2: to our friends zat Brightly, and thank you to all

1238
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: our incredible fans and supporters and subscribers for being with

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01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: us for another chaotic week of the National Football League.

1240
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Speaker 2: We look forward to seeing you next week with an

1241
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: incredible guest in our Monday night recap. Appreciate you the

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Speaker 2: volume