1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this is a big episode of the 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Almost Famous podcast. This is always one of my favorite 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: times for the Almost Famous podcasts because we get it, 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: get to interview people and love and today we have 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 2: Zach and Katie. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to Almost Famous. 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 10 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: We just confirmed that this is your first time on 11 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: Almost Famous since you two have been together. 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, it's my first time. 13 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 4: Super exciting. 14 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: And you came on and interviewed with Ashley before I 15 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: believe the season even started, or somewhere in the middle 16 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: of it. 17 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 6: It was actually right before the season started. Yeah, And 18 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 6: it's a pretty good interview, but a little little harsh, 19 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 6: little rough, and it actually was oh yeah, oh. 20 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah. 21 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 6: Right. 22 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: You know, we have a theory here on Almost Famous, 23 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: because I've sat in your seat before Ashley has at 24 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: some level as well, is we want to clear the air. 25 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: So we want to ask the questions that Mike seem 26 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: harsh for you to respond to, not to trick you, 27 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: but to allow you to respond, and hopefully when vulnerability 28 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: is offered, people fall in love with that. Right, People 29 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: respond really well to honesty. It's really hard to dislike 30 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: somebody when you get to know somebody exactly. So that's 31 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: what we're gonna do today. I'm very excited to have 32 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: the two of you catch us up on your relationship 33 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: since the show. 34 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. So right after the show, we flew right to 35 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 6: New York and we did like the three day crazy 36 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 6: press circuit of just going everywhere and anywhere, and I 37 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 6: think one day we had, you know, nineteen different interviews 38 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 6: in podcasts. 39 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 5: In one day up for like twenty six hours. 40 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 6: We did sleep twenty six hours no sleep. 41 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: Almost miss Gma. 42 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 6: Almost to Miss Gma. Were getting a right tell us 43 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 6: why well, our flight, like the traffic to get to Lax, 44 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 6: the flight was delayed multiple times. We're just enjoying our 45 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 6: time together on a plane, finally just being in public. 46 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 6: And then we land and there's crazy traffic, there's car trap, 47 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 6: and Katie's putting on makeup and there. 48 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 5: I didn't do yeah, like fifteen minutes before They're like, yeah, 49 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 5: you need to have your hair and makeup done, and like, 50 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 5: I've been on a flight, yeah for like six seven. 51 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 4: Hours, are you kiddie mean? 52 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 5: Like so, yeah, Gma, I did my my makeup in 53 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 5: the car and hair. 54 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 6: I'm walking out of the car to go into GMA 55 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 6: with my pants half down, point it up. Yeah, I 56 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 6: mean it was it was wild, but it kind of 57 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 6: like woke you up and it was like, all right, 58 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 6: there you go, because it was the morning after the 59 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 6: live finale, so we were kind of just in the 60 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 6: surreal state. But then after that, pretty quick after Katie 61 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 6: moved immediately back to Austin to start work. I took 62 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 6: about a week to kind of gather my things from California, 63 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 6: and then I caravaned out to California and now we're 64 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 6: both living in Austin. 65 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: Caravan to Texas. You left California to go to Texas, right. 66 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, because I was previously living in Texas. But I back. 67 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: Okay, because did you move out to California for a 68 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: while for the show? 69 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 6: For it just didn't make sense. But I had lived 70 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 6: in Austin for four years before Bachelor Bachelorette, and then 71 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 6: when those opportunities came, I was like, yeah, I can't 72 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 6: have a spot at both places right now. And then 73 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 6: meet Katie and then it's like all right, I'm going 74 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 6: back back to Austin. 75 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: Well, the Bachelor world is weird because you go from 76 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: zero to one hundred very quickly. But and Zach, this 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: is mostly for you. You know, you're on the Bachelorette, 78 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: you get announced as the bachelor, but there's really never 79 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: a moment of like where you feel it because it 80 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: feels Yes, it's weird to be in a mansion, Yes, 81 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: it's weird to be on TV. Yes it's weird to 82 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: be dating a bunch of people. But there's nothing else 83 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: outside of that. You're in your own little bubble, so 84 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: the attension isn't really there. There's never once in my 85 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: life I felt like more of a celebrity than that 86 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: flight or the drive away from the final rows to 87 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: the airport. Did they escort you guys through the airport 88 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: quickly to get to your flight? 89 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: Like did they push you through? 90 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 6: Not really? No? 91 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: Okay, well then you just mentioned this. 92 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: Then you get in a car and you drive up 93 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: to GMA, your biggest television appearance yet, and you walk 94 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: out and like you're on the stage at GMA, like 95 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: twelve hours after the final rows. It's a very weird time, 96 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: Like that is the weirdest time for in the whole process. 97 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: For me, is that like twelve hours in between la 98 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: New York television interviews. 99 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 5: It was super fun though very exhilarating experience. 100 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, like seeing like actual New York Papa Razzi for example, 101 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 6: Like that. 102 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 5: Was a great Yeah, that was like the first time 103 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 5: I think it felt like. 104 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: Oh, this is a huge like people are taking pictures 105 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: of me. Yeah, they're going to sell these, like my 106 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: picture is worth money. It's very odd. And then twenty 107 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: four hours later it all ends. They're like, yeah, no, 108 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: it it ends like next Yeah. I remember the final 109 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: interview on that day, like there's a producer with us 110 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: from The Bachelor that traveled out with us that kind 111 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: of like coordinated everything, and then at the end of 112 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: the day they left and it's pretty much over at 113 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: that point, like there's really no contact you ever really 114 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: have again unless there's like a special appearance that you 115 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: have years later, but it just cuts off. 116 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: Was that a weird time for the two of you. 117 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 118 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 5: I think we actually quite enjoyed it. 119 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 6: In a sense. It was refreshing, Yeah, because like you know, 120 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 6: this the process from when you're done filming the show 121 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 6: to when the show is airing, and then throughout the end, 122 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 6: like you're constantly doing stuff like you're doing interviews, you're 123 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 6: doing podcast to promote the show, You're doing events. So 124 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 6: like I was constantly with producers well after the filming, 125 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 6: so I became very close with them, and you know, 126 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 6: I regard a lot as great friends. But we just 127 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 6: kind of looked at it as now we get to 128 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 6: focus on ourselves and know more of like kind of being. 129 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 6: I don't want to say baby sap, but you kind 130 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 6: of are in a sense. Yeah, when you're in that. 131 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: It is it is refreshing. I personally had a lot 132 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: of I didn't have like mental trauma. I just it 133 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 2: took me a while to get back into the world. 134 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: Did you two feel that Like it felt weird, Like 135 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: life didn't feel right for me for a while. 136 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 4: It is such a weird feeling. 137 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 5: I had to go back home to Canada because I 138 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 5: was like, I need to be around family and friends 139 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 5: because it was such a weird world. Being on the Bachelor. 140 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: It is unlike anything else. Nobody knows what it's like 141 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 5: unless you've lived it. It is unlike anything else. 142 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 6: And I feel like like I was home for like 143 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 6: a short period of time, like during the holidays, like 144 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 6: after the filming just kind of recuperating, I guess, or 145 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 6: recouping after the craziness of it, Like I lived through 146 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 6: it with The Bachelorette and needed that time. But i'd 147 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 6: even say now, like as normal as it does feel like, 148 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 6: it's still a weird adjustment that we're getting used to. 149 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 6: Like she's already back at work. I'm going back for 150 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 6: but that's like it's been so long of not doing 151 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: my normal job and wanting to get back into that. 152 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 6: But like also it's been a year of being in 153 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 6: front of a camera, So yeah, strange stuff. 154 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: It takes a while. 155 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: I was talking to a few friends earlier and I 156 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: went back to my job. I took a month off 157 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: after the film, I went back for two years and 158 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: then kind of moved on from that. But even that 159 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: adjustment is a weird life adjustment that the listeners here 160 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: don't always understand is you're not used to this. This 161 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: is not something you've been prepped for. You don't really 162 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: have a skill set to be on TV or to 163 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: date publicly, and so you get thrown into it. Life 164 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: switches up very fast, and it takes a while to 165 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: adapt back to just functioning. And that's where I want 166 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: to go into now. You guys are still together, happily, 167 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: you're sitting by each other. You're certainly are you're certainly 168 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: to get Yeah there, How has your relationship changed now 169 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: since that last interview in New York City to today? 170 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: Uh, just walk us through. What does life look like? 171 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 172 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 6: Uh, you know it was like such a like you know, 173 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 6: high intensity time for us in New York and the show, 174 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 6: and then we got to focus on ourselves with going 175 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 6: back to Austin. Sure, we had to you know, do 176 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 6: some long distance in between when the show was filming, 177 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 6: but like, truly, I think and I think you'd agree 178 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 6: that our relationship got stronger and stronger where you know, 179 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 6: it could be really easy for it to like cause 180 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 6: a lot of issues and we've seen it in the past, 181 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 6: but you know, we've got great communication and there's this trust. 182 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: And let me pause you there though, because that's a 183 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: lot of couples at this point in time are like we. 184 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 2: They sit down with us a few months later and 185 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: they're like breaking and you can see it in them. 186 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: You're stronger than ever. You're saying your communication was out. 187 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: How did you make it through? Like, give us some 188 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: details on how you helped each other through that time. 189 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, like as Katie knows, like I'm someone, 190 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 6: I mean, I just kind of tell it how it is, 191 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 6: and I wear my heart on my sleep all the time, 192 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 6: for better for worse. 193 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: Yep. 194 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 6: But I think in general, like there is really no 195 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 6: hiding or guessing what I'm feeling or what's going on. 196 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 6: And Katie does a really good job at that. So 197 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 6: that's hard to do, you know, via text and FaceTime, 198 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 6: and that obviously presents challenges for like the period of after. 199 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: You know, and we're with each other like a lot. 200 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 6: Too, and now we're with each other a lot. 201 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 5: It's like twenty four to seven. 202 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, so yeah, so we're like basically like a like 203 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 6: a fully married couple. We just haven't officially moved in yet. 204 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, you haven't officially moved in. You're not living together. 205 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 4: You're not living together yet. I'm waiting for my least to. 206 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: Come up and say with Zach and then we're going 207 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 5: to move in together in July. Yeah, so that's going 208 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 5: to be different for us. But we basically, you know, 209 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 5: like I've spent maybe since he's been back in Austin 210 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 5: maybe three nights in my house. 211 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: Like yeah, so pretty much she's got. 212 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 5: But yeah, we've just been like so strong and just 213 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: getting to know each other more. We learn each other's 214 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 5: quirks and everything, and I'm like more in love with 215 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 5: him like every single day, like truly, And I know 216 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 5: it sounds corny to say that, but like I learned 217 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 5: something new about him every day and he's an amazing man. 218 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you the worst question ever. 219 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: I've never asked anybody this question because I've never felt 220 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: confident enough to do it. Do the two of you 221 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: see any way that you don't get married. 222 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 5: We've talked about like where we want to get married. 223 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 5: I've already like started looking at Ben you but also 224 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 5: like at AFR. We said twenty twenty five. And I 225 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 5: think that's just realistic, and I think that's smart. I 226 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 5: don't think we need to put pedal to the metal, 227 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 5: like we have our whole lives together, like why rush 228 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 5: into things? Yeah, but yeah, and we just want to 229 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 5: make sure it's right, like just like then you wise 230 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: and the time. 231 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 6: But like to your question, like it's funny, we were 232 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 6: actually just talking about this. We were at the pool 233 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 6: earlier and we're just talking about like our relationship and 234 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 6: I told her. You know, going into that whole process 235 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 6: of the Bachelor, I wanted to make sure that I 236 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 6: was one hundred percent certain that I wanted to spend 237 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 6: the rest of my life with a certain person, a 238 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 6: specific person. And if I wasn't sure, then I don't 239 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 6: think I would propose. I actually I know I wouldn't have. 240 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 6: And when I told Katie there was not a single 241 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 6: doubt in my mind. I was like, I'm going to 242 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 6: marry that woman. I can't imagine not. And I still 243 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 6: feel that way and even stronger now because I get 244 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 6: to know her more. Yea, and we still I'll learn 245 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 6: a lot about each other, sure, like every other couple 246 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 6: or this and that, but it's like the love is there, yeah, 247 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 6: which I just like didn't think was fully possible like 248 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 6: this point or through a TV show really, but it 249 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 6: kind of just feels like a blessing or just really lucky. Yeah. 250 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: How does that? I mean, go into that a little bit. 251 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: You guys been on a television show and not the 252 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: easiest ways, right, not the most conventional way, with a 253 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: lot of weird, tough things happening from the start to 254 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: the finish that you guys had to navigate. And now 255 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: you sit here today saying hey, Katie, saying I love 256 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: you more than I ever have, and you're saying I 257 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: was confident that I wanted to marry you. 258 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: Does that just ever feel weird? Like that you met 259 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 3: your person? 260 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 4: Oh, we were saying this earlier. 261 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 5: So many times we look at each other and like 262 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 5: that was was so messed up, like so strange, but 263 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 5: like we're so grateful for it. 264 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 4: It is, it is, It is so weird. 265 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 5: We just we met each other and we both live 266 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 5: in Austin, Like we. 267 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 6: Just met to save us a lot of trauma and stuff. 268 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 6: But like write the story and it put us through 269 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 6: tests that I think like overaw help the strength of it. 270 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: So okay, So one day, if you guys choose to 271 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 2: as a couple have kids, would you definitely having kids, 272 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: We're definitely having kills. Would you let your kids watch 273 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: that season back? 274 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: Oh that's a good question. 275 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 6: Parts. 276 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: I think Katie is going to say the whole thing, 277 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: let him get to know dad, Wow, talk about I. 278 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: Think maybe at a certain age I would. I would 279 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 5: let them all of it. 280 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: Zach, you guys talked us out for a second. 281 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 6: This is good. 282 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 5: I don't know that's a good they would have to 283 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 5: be a certain age for sure. 284 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 6: I mean, they're gonna get it, like whenever they find 285 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 6: I think. 286 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: I think, yes, there's some very hard moments in that, 287 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 5: but also like that is our love story. That's how 288 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 5: we found each other. How like literally our first conversation 289 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 5: or first kiss, everything, our first moments were on television. 290 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: And I think that's so cool that we have the 291 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 5: opportunity to watch that back. And yeah, I would be 292 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 5: okay with it, but they would just have to be 293 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 5: a certain age and maybe we'll get the editors just 294 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 5: a different version. 295 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know what about you, babe, what 296 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: do you think about that? 297 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 6: I think regardless like whether we want them to watch 298 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 6: it or not, they're going to. They're going to find out, 299 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 6: they're going to want to see. So I would just 300 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 6: make sure that it's like it's an open conversation if 301 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 6: they want to ask me any questions or ask you 302 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 6: any questions if they have that questions. And I hope 303 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 6: they're a little bit older, more mature when they ask him, 304 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 6: because they're gonna not they're not gonna understand what yeah 305 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 6: the hell they just saw, but they'll get it. 306 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well it is uh and Katie, this is for you. 307 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: It is such a unique process and there's really no 308 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: right way. I've always said there's no right way to 309 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: do it as the lead of the show, for the 310 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: Bachelor or the Bachelor, there's nobody that comes out of 311 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: it unscathed without making a decision that they might look 312 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: back on and be like, I wish I would have 313 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: done that differently. But obviously with your season, there are 314 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: unique storylines that took place that you guys had to 315 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: like confront stuff on television that maybe you would have 316 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: rather not confronted. The question I have for you because 317 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: I don't think TV does it justice. Why didn't you 318 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: give up on this relationship? Why didn't you walk away? 319 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: Why did you choose to stay? 320 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 5: Yeh with sech good question because the moments that I 321 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 5: had with him, the time that I did to get. 322 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 4: To know him, I genuinely I knew your heart. 323 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 5: I knew that you were such a good man, and 324 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 5: I'm a very I felt like in that moment I 325 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 5: was and I am a very understanding person, and I 326 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 5: couldn't imagine. 327 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: What you went through. 328 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 5: But I loved you, and I knew you were a 329 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 5: good man, and I knew that we could get through it. 330 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 5: And yeah, and. 331 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: You knew who he was exactly. 332 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 4: It's a great man. 333 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: So then for you, Zach, you're in the conversation with Katie, Yeah, 334 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: were you freaking out? I mean, in that moment when 335 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: you're for the first time really all season, the two 336 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: of you have an issue where she could have easily 337 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: and everybody would have said, hey, we get it, like 338 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: she didn't want to be a part of whatever this 339 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: was going to end up being. You're telling her knowing 340 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: that this is also the person that you want to 341 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: spend your life with. And for a while, I think, 342 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: I mean maybe television just over dramatize it, but for 343 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: a while, I think the viewers watching going she's gone, 344 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: like she's at she's gonna she's gonna leave. She didn't, obviously, 345 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 2: But in that moment, for you, what's going through your mind? 346 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: Were you holding on for dear life? Were you freaking 347 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: out internally? Like walk us through what's going on inside 348 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: of you? 349 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean it was like the scariest moment I 350 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 6: went through. Actually, it was the scariest moment I went through. 351 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 6: And my heart was pounding through my chest. I could 352 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 6: hardly speak, but and we've talked about. This is what 353 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 6: was most important, Like I guess looking at it and 354 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 6: myself at that moment was being as honest as I 355 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 6: could be because I do take engagement seriously and I 356 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 6: felt like I couldn't commit to someone holding something back 357 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 6: or not telling the whole truth because like, yeah, that's 358 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 6: like the design of the show, that the show is 359 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 6: what it is. But also I don't look at it 360 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 6: that way. I look at it. It's like, oh no, 361 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 6: if I can find my wife through this, i am, 362 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 6: and I'm going to treat this as normal as possible 363 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 6: in unnormal or unique circumstances. So it was the scariest moment. 364 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 6: It was pouring on us. 365 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. 366 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: It was it looked and I mean it was one 367 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: flip flops on it's raining. 368 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 5: I'm like, this is the worst spot to have this conversation, 369 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 5: and it's just like, oh it was. It was just 370 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 5: really bad. 371 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 6: I mean, it was like the worst day. 372 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: It was very awkward. 373 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 6: It was hard. 374 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 4: It was so awkward. 375 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: But you made it through. 376 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: We certainly did, and Zach, there obviously was repercussions from 377 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: that conversation, right, there's other people involved looking back on 378 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: that moment, now, clarity understanding. Let's just assume that the 379 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: two of you would be sitting on the couch still 380 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: with or without that conversation. 381 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: Would you have done anything differently? 382 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 6: Well, I mean it's like there's I look back and 383 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 6: and change a lot of things. I mean, it's you're 384 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 6: put under this intense lens constantly, and you're you're forced 385 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 6: to make these decisions. And you know, with that whole 386 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 6: week of me like creating those boundaries or creating that 387 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 6: no sex week type thing, like I would take that 388 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 6: back because like what that did was took away everyone 389 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 6: else's decision. Katie knows where my heart was at making 390 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 6: that decision, because I was just trying to, you know, 391 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 6: make it as les messy as possible and totally and 392 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 6: I would I would like I would have changed that, 393 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 6: and that would have avoided a lot of actually all 394 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 6: of that issue, to be honest, and I'm I'm looking 395 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 6: at myself the way you guys are looking at me, 396 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 6: like duh. 397 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 2: And I will say, Zach, Katie, credit to you, because 398 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: it is a weird thing. Again, there's no right way 399 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: to always do this. There are things we can look 400 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 2: back on say I wish I would have done differently, 401 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: But kudos to you for being understanding and getting to 402 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 2: know him and his intentions and letting him have that 403 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: space and also hopefully behind the scenes, explaining yourself so 404 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: that she does understand it. It doesn't always happen, and 405 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: I will tell you, in the years that I've seen this, 406 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: these are the things that break couples afterwards. Like if 407 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: you can make it through this, and I think we 408 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: said this after the show, you can make it through 409 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: probably anything, you know, like, this was a really hard 410 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: This was probably, in my mind, one of the most 411 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: real difficult conversations and situations, not only for the two 412 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: of you, but also for Gabby that I've ever seen 413 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: on the show. But you guys stuck through it together, 414 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 2: and I just think that's you. There's something unique in 415 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: that that that makes me think this isn't ever Like 416 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm not going to see a headline in two months 417 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: it says that you guys are splitting. 418 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: Oh heck nobol not. 419 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 6: All right? 420 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: Well, that was sweet, Okay, moving on to lighter things then, 421 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: because I really wanted to understand how you guys got 422 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: through this, and also I wanted to see now Zach 423 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: for you with that decision and making the no sex 424 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: week to see if you could see how much that 425 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: also affected the other people involved, the women involved, and 426 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: how that boundary probably if you go back, like you said, 427 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: it wouldn't have been set. It just now with good intentions. 428 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: It was like really backfired in an amazing way. 429 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: In an amazing way. 430 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 3: It was wild television. It was wild television. But now 431 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: to the good parts. 432 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: As you guys look back on your journey together through 433 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 2: the show and maybe even after the show, what are 434 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: some moments that stick out to you as monumental, as 435 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: really exciting, as good good memories that are taken from 436 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: this experience. 437 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 6: Like from the actual show, yeah, or after the show. 438 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, both, just in life. 439 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: Now, as you sit here today and you look at 440 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: your relationship, what stands out to you. 441 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 5: That's an interesting question. I don't even know if I'm 442 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: going to answer this properly because I don't think there's 443 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 5: no right answer here. 444 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. 445 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 5: Zach and I are just like very adventurous together. We 446 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 5: have so many great moments together, whether it's laid in 447 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 5: bed and we're just like laughing and we can't breathe, 448 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 5: or you know, we've gone zip lining we've gone to 449 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 5: Brewize together. 450 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: We've done so much and I don't, I don't everything. 451 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: Every moment with you is great. 452 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 5: We've made so many memories since filming, and even while 453 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: we've been filming that they didn't show like we always 454 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 5: talk about this, but you know, there was like it 455 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 5: was my twenty eighth birthday, the day after the morning 456 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: of our fantasy sweet Night. I think I said that right, 457 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 5: and he brought in like a chocolate cake and then 458 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 5: we smeared it all over each other's faces and like, 459 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 5: in that moment, it was just so fun, so lighthearted, 460 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 5: so Goofy and I always talk about that, but I 461 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 5: love Goofy fun moments. 462 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 4: So I think the answers a question for me. 463 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: It does. 464 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And even like the little things of when 465 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 6: we were in our happy couple houses where you really 466 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 6: are limited to where it's just like takeout and like 467 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 6: going incognito on walks, that's like that was even a blast, 468 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 6: and like those little things all add up of like 469 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 6: and just constantly reaffirm like all right, yeah, this is 470 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 6: this is my person with out of doubt and then 471 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 6: chocolate Kick was a lot of fun y. 472 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: So Katie, you're back in Austin. The show has moved on. 473 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: As we talked about the beginning, it's a very weird 474 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: break when all of a sudden they're all right, we're. 475 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 3: Done with you. 476 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: You guys do your thing. Yeah, here's the next person, 477 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: and the focus shifts. Have you stayed in close relationship 478 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: with any of the other women from the show. 479 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, I'm really I would say I'm closest 480 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 5: with Mercedes, like literally from night one. That woman has 481 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 5: a heart of gold, and she's so funny, so sweet. 482 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 6: She's so sweet, she's awesome, awesome. 483 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 5: And Jess as well as Gabby and Ariel. We actually 484 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: just got back from Miami not too long ago, so 485 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 5: I would say, and Dabia Daby is. 486 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: Amazing as well. 487 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 5: Those are like the women that I've probably stayed in 488 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 5: contact the most with. But some of the other women, 489 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 5: like Charity I've talked to a little bit broke Glenn. 490 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 5: They all want to come to like Austin. 491 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 3: So yeah, so you have. 492 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: I mean it has any of it been difficult to 493 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: keep these relationships? 494 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: No? 495 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: No, no, you've all been supportive of each other. 496 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 5: Is it very supportive? We've I mean it was we 497 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 5: all leaned on each other during that experience, and we 498 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: built such great relationships, great friendships, and I was hopeful 499 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 5: that they would continue after the show, like while we 500 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 5: were filming, and they did, and it's great. We still 501 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 5: we still confide in each other, we still support each other, 502 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 5: and it's truly just I love, I love my friendships 503 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 5: with each and every one of them. 504 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: Do they ever slip up and talk about Zach in 505 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: front of you and make it right? 506 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 5: Sometimes we'll talk about Zach, But I mean it doesn't 507 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 5: like the girls are really they're they're good about it, 508 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 5: like they don't. They're very cautious of like, oh hope 509 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 5: that didn't hurt your feelings, and even then, like again, 510 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 5: I'm an understanding person, like yeah, I'm just kinda laughed off, 511 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 5: like yeah really yeah, I. 512 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 6: Mean I even like doctor to anyone minus Mercedes, yeah, 513 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 6: a couple, but other than that, Like I just but 514 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 6: I feel like it gets. 515 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: Not so weird. 516 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: Would you be anxious, Zach if if all the girls 517 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: came to Austin and they were staying together and you 518 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: are out like you're you're at the house and you 519 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 2: just happened to go out and see them, would you 520 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 2: be nervous? 521 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 3: For that interaction. 522 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: We literally are talking about this. 523 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 6: We were saying that, like there might be plans that 524 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 6: some of the girls July, and yeah, how much are 525 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 6: they going to roast me? But I mean it'd be 526 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 6: great to see everyone that. 527 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would have been nervous. Oh yeah, that's fair. 528 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, come on, they. 529 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: All tagged team up on Zach. 530 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 2: Now, there's no reason why they just can't go at you. 531 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: Nothing to hold back on. 532 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: I'd sit back and watch Ladies due thing. 533 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: Uh so you're not living together yet. July seems to 534 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: be the time that you're going to move in together. 535 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: You mentioned Katie you're back to work now, Zach, you're 536 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: thinking about going back to work, Remind me what is 537 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: what is the job that you will be entering back 538 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 2: into tech sales. 539 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 6: I mean that's what I was doing for the past 540 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 6: four years. I really like it. Right now, I'm kind 541 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 6: of in that job hunting phase right now, interviewing because 542 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 6: I don't want to go back to the same old 543 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 6: company anymore, but just kind of getting back into that 544 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 6: normal sea and routine because it's kind of weird and 545 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,239 Speaker 6: you don't Yeah, it is, we have that. It is. 546 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: I was in tech sales buddy. 547 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: I went back for two years in Denver, Colorado at 548 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 2: a small back office processing financial services software. Okay, all right, 549 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: familiar with Yeah, it was uh, it was something two 550 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: years of it and then uh and then I'm on. 551 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: But it was good to get back into normalcy and 552 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: I hope, but it took me a while. It took 553 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: me a couple of months to feel like one I 554 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: could sit and focus, in two I could do it 555 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: and do a decent job at my job. But I 556 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 2: did do it, and I do believe it is a 557 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: good step as you figure out whatever's next. And speaking 558 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: of whatever's next, you guys did mention that you're looking 559 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: still at twenty twenty five for wedding. Yep, yep, okay, 560 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: And that's just because it feels right. It's not because 561 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: you you're trying to figure it out and make sure 562 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: that you're right for each other. 563 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 4: It just feels like, oh, we're right for each other. 564 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 6: Okay, it could be twenty twenty four, it could be 565 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 6: twenty fo. Yeah, it's like we kind of picked like 566 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 6: a very date. 567 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 5: Because it's like to also work like I have. I've 568 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 5: worked eleven weeks since September. 569 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: Like, oh, Jesus, you've got some time. 570 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: I have to hustle. 571 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 6: Like wedding, I heard it takes it takes a long time. 572 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: Like Yeah, and in your full time job, as what Katie, 573 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: I'm a nurse. 574 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: You're a nurse. 575 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, you got to get back into it. 576 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: You got to the hours, take off the hours. Yeah, 577 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: that makes sense exactly. Final question for the two of you. 578 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: Thanks for being honest, thanks for being open during this 579 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: whole interview. It's been great and I really appreciate you 580 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: guys sitting down with us and just catching catching us 581 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: up on your life. So as we look forward to 582 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: the future, and each of you, if you can answer 583 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: this individually, what are you most looking forward to as 584 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: a couple and as a person that our listeners and 585 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 2: the fans of the two of you can pay attention to. 586 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 6: Okay, there you go. 587 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 5: You want to go first, I think, and I don't 588 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 5: think this is necessarily going to be something that you 589 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 5: are thinking that we're saying, but I don't know. For me, 590 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: the the thing I'm looking forward to the most is 591 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 5: getting a house and having kids. 592 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 6: Really, the starting a family was Yeah, Yeah, that's. 593 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 5: What I'm looking forward to. 594 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: That's incredible. Yeah, well, I'm going to be shocked. 595 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: Our listeners are going to be shocked right now if 596 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: we don't see the two of you walking on the 597 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: aisle in well at some point. We wish you the 598 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: best here. Thanks for coming out, thanks for joining us. 599 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: Just tons of success in your relationship and your personal 600 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: lives thrown on you from this whole family here at 601 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: the Almost Famous Podcast. 602 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: Zach and Katie, thank you. 603 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 6: Thank youks Man, appreciate it and one. 604 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: Of the most exclusive, intimate, honest interviews since their time 605 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: on the show. Zach and Katie joined us on The 606 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: Almost Famous Podcast and we're very appreciated for it. Hey 607 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: send him some love. Wish them the best we do 608 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: here at the Almost Famous Podcast. 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