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Speaker 1: But it all comes back to our guys, the players,

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Speaker 1: some similarities there. Some of the passing games shows up

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Speaker 1: pretty similar, like you know, stuff we've seen now again

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Speaker 1: you know it's the NFL, So guys have you know

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, how many way different ways can

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Speaker 1: you run de slant? I don't know. I mean everybody

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Speaker 1: runs it. But there's some patterns that show up in

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Speaker 1: terms of okay, um, you know, whether it's you know,

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Speaker 1: like something they like to do on P and ten,

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Speaker 1: you know, first player, the possession. There's some common common

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Speaker 1: threads there that you see. So it's it's it's interesting

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Speaker 1: to see and you're able to go back with the

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Speaker 1: players and say, hey, remember this route from training camp

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Speaker 1: here it is you know, so it helps out right

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Speaker 1: there