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Speaker 1: It's what you've been waiting for all day. But Sexton

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, Team Buck, Welcome to the Freedom Hut. Much

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Speaker 1: small form. Uh. The v A is sotionalized medicine, meaning

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Speaker 1: that it is the government in control of the hospitals,

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Speaker 1: the doctors, the providers, paying their salaries, determining benefits and

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Speaker 1: all of that, and you know, the the v A

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Speaker 1: is UM. You know it comes from the UH. And David,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to address your stuff, but I will,

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Speaker 1: I will let you go here, but please keep listening,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try to address anything we're saying. But

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for calling in UM, because I

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Speaker 1: want to go into a few a few points here,

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Speaker 1: but thank you. UH. First of all, this all comes.

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Speaker 1: The v A comes out of what working what we're

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Speaker 1: called Old Soldiers Homes after the UH, which proliferated, which

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Speaker 1: came about after the Civil War UH to care for

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Speaker 1: disabled and elderly veterans. It wasn't until the nies that

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Speaker 1: Congress pulled together the Bureau of War Risk Insurance and

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Speaker 1: the Public Health Service and the Federal Board of Vocational

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Speaker 1: Education into the Veterans Bureau, and then under Hoover in

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Speaker 1: you had the Veterans the creation of the Veterans Administration.

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Speaker 1: The v as we know it now. When I say

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Speaker 1: that it's socialized medicine, I'm not trying to say that

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Speaker 1: as a pejorative. It's just that is an example of

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Speaker 1: socialized medicine, which is also what they have in the UK.

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Speaker 1: So it's the the government owns and runs the hospital,

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Speaker 1: pays the doctors, tells you what the policies are, who

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Speaker 1: gets care and all the and the v A has

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Speaker 1: had for for a long time now substandard care, unsanitary conditions,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of facilities. Now there are some very

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Speaker 1: good VA facilities too, And I know that, I mean

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Speaker 1: I've I've heard this from both sides, but there have

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Speaker 1: been cases and and case studies done of the v

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Speaker 1: A that you think this was is very unlikely to

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Speaker 1: have happened, say at a private hospital, some of those

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Speaker 1: things that have gone gone on at the v A.

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Speaker 1: And then you get into well, who is the government

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Speaker 1: really accountable to the answer is the government's not particularly

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Speaker 1: accountable all at all. Uh does the v A have

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Speaker 1: to subject itself to you market competition? The answer is no.

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Speaker 1: You go to the VA hospital you're told to go

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Speaker 1: to and that's that. Now there have been efforts to

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Speaker 1: try and give veterans more options and allow for you

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Speaker 1: to take a voucher and go get private, private medical treatment,

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Speaker 1: which I think is an excellent idea and that they

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Speaker 1: should expand that right. It's kind of a public private

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Speaker 1: partnership or it's a really a voucher system, the v A,

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Speaker 1: and that's essentially a single payer like system because for veterans,

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Speaker 1: the government is just going to be picking up the tab,

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Speaker 1: but the government does not necessarily have to be in

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Speaker 1: control of the means of healthcare production, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: That's where you get into the socialized medicine side of it.

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Speaker 1: A single payer is just the government pays for your healthcare.

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Speaker 1: Medicare is a single payer program right now that and

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Speaker 1: now we pay into Medicare, and there's always this discussion about, well,

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Speaker 1: that's not really uh, that's an entitlement that you deserve

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Speaker 1: because you paid into it. The reality, unfortunately, is that

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Speaker 1: most people of the uh the boomer generation are going

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Speaker 1: to take out twice as much as they paid into Medicare.

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Speaker 1: So that's a that's a problem. That's why it's such

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Speaker 1: a budget buster, and that's why it's so expensive and

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Speaker 1: not so many problems. But Medicare is single payer. Single

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Speaker 1: payer is very, very very expensive. California recently looked at

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Speaker 1: single payer and I think it was over three hundred

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Speaker 1: billion dollars for just the residents of California, which is

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Speaker 1: more than the whole state's budget. What Obamacare is, and

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Speaker 1: what they also have, or Obamacare aspires to at some

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Speaker 1: level because it's only a small section of the market,

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Speaker 1: is similar to what they have in uh in Switzerland,

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Speaker 1: which is subsidized private insurance. So you have private insurance companies,

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Speaker 1: the government gives people who need it, and they determined

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Speaker 1: it on a sliding scale, a subsidy to buy insurance.

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Speaker 1: And then you're just like everybody else on the insurance market,

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Speaker 1: but you are getting government helped to pay for that premium.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's subsidized, right, And that's what Obamacare is.

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Speaker 1: The problem with Obamacare is that in addition to those subsidies,

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Speaker 1: you have all these determinations about what can and cannot

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Speaker 1: be covered, what will and will not be covered, who

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Speaker 1: pays more, and who does not. So that's where it

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Speaker 1: really ceases to be insurance, and it's actually just subsidized healthcare.

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Speaker 1: And when you just have subsidized healthcare instead of insurance,

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Speaker 1: because remember, insurances, you pay with the idea that maybe

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Speaker 1: you need it, maybe you don't, you're hoping you don't,

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Speaker 1: but there is a risk factor for you and you

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Speaker 1: pay based on that risk factor. Obamacare eliminates a lot

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Speaker 1: of that and certainly with prexisting conditions, but also more

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Speaker 1: generally eliminates risk factors and brings into the equation a

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Speaker 1: lot of payments for different health care services that you

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Speaker 1: may or may not want, but Obamacare says no, if

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Speaker 1: you're in the individual market, you have to provide the

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Speaker 1: following care, which drives up the prices there and what

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Speaker 1: you've had our people don't want. The exchanges have very

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Speaker 1: high deductibles, The exchanges are very are not taken by

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Speaker 1: a lot of doctors the healthcare plans on them. And

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Speaker 1: then you have a lot of sick people who want

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Speaker 1: Obamacare on the individual market and healthier, younger people who

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Speaker 1: are like, I'm getting a bad deal here, and that's

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Speaker 1: what causes the death spiral in the exchange. But so

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Speaker 1: just so we understand the continuum, and sorry, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about healthcare more than I meant to, but I think

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Speaker 1: this is if we're gonna talk about it, right, we

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Speaker 1: should really get into it and and get into what

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Speaker 1: is happening, what the reality is here. It's a continuum.

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Speaker 1: And on the one hand, you have just straight up

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Speaker 1: socialized medicine, which the VA is socialized medicine. So those

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Speaker 1: who are like, the v A near me is terrible.

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Speaker 1: Or you know, I family members who dealt with the

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Speaker 1: v A that socialized medicine for six million people, and

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Speaker 1: they're spending like forty fifty billion dollars a year. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: over fifty billion dollars a year. Maybe it's more sixty

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Speaker 1: now on on medical care. I mean the overall health

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Speaker 1: care spending in this country that the US government puts

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Speaker 1: out there is over a trillion. So I mean healthcare

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Speaker 1: spending is vast. The v A is tiny. If they

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Speaker 1: can't get the v if they can't spend let's call

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Speaker 1: it sixty billion. I don't have the most recent figures

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Speaker 1: in front of me, but I know it's roughly fifty

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Speaker 1: sixty billion. If they can't spend sixty billion properly and

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Speaker 1: tend to veterans who are a class of Americans that

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Speaker 1: are owed something, it's not just hey, I'm an American,

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Speaker 1: give me stuff. It's no, no, this is a sacred

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Speaker 1: obligation of the American state to those who were the

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Speaker 1: uniform and served. If they can't do that properly, think

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Speaker 1: about what happens when you try to, as they would

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Speaker 1: say in business scale, that healthcare. I mean expand it

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Speaker 1: out even I mean you just have more problems, more unsanitary,

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Speaker 1: filthy facilities, more you know, more botched surgeries, more waiting lists,

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Speaker 1: more all that. Right, it just gets worse and worse.

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Speaker 1: Any government bureaucracy is going to have problems when it

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Speaker 1: tries to handle more people and provide more services. Right.

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Speaker 1: So that so that socialized medicine, Uh, single payers, I said,

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Speaker 1: is medicare, which is they're just paying for it. But

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Speaker 1: remember they determine what they will and will not pay for.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like Uncle Sam's got this check book

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Speaker 1: and it's give me everything I want. That single payer.

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Speaker 1: And then you have the Obamacare slash Swiss model, which

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Speaker 1: may be calling the Swiss models probably giving it too

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Speaker 1: much credit, but which is subsidized private insurance. But the

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Speaker 1: problem with Obamacare is that there's also mandates for that.

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Speaker 1: It's not really just what the private insurers would do.

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Speaker 1: You don't have prexasing conditions, you don't charge for different

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Speaker 1: lifestyle choices and behaviors that can have an impact on health.

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Speaker 1: And so what you have are a lot of sick

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Speaker 1: people who want to be in the exchange, and you

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Speaker 1: have a lot of people on Medicaid who are getting

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Speaker 1: free healthcare, but it's not very good, and younger, healthier

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Speaker 1: people are like, I'm out, I'll pay the fund. And

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Speaker 1: that's why you have the death spials and the exchanges

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Speaker 1: and insurers pulling out. So that's the healthcare continuum. And

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Speaker 1: where I am and where some of the senators who

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Speaker 1: are upset about this are is, Uh, how about we

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Speaker 1: just say that we're going to allow people to buy

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Speaker 1: the healthcare plan that they want to buy. No more

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Speaker 1: government mandates, and create a system where if you need

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Speaker 1: help based on your income to pay a premium for

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Speaker 1: a private insurance plan, will provide that, and will provide

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Speaker 1: more for health savings accounts, no more pre existing conditions.

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Speaker 1: States will be able to handle on a state by

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Speaker 1: state basis how they handle that pool of individuals, make

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Speaker 1: sure that they get healthcare and are covered because we

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Speaker 1: are a kind hearted and generous people, and let the

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Speaker 1: market work. It's magic. That's where I want to But

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00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: that's what that's to the right, that's that's off right now.

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00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: It feels like in some kind of Milton Friedman fantasy

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Speaker 1: lands wherever just sits around talking about you know, the

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Speaker 1: wonders of the market. All right, I sorry, healthcare talk

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Speaker 1: went longer than I thought of. What I do want

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about the voter voter integrity issues,

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Speaker 1: voter fraud issues. Trump talked about that today. We'll also

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Speaker 1: we got Matt Walsh, Fred Flights, Michael Goodwin joining us later. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the Assata Shakur, Linda's are sore issue, A lot, a

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Speaker 1: lot more, a lot more. So. We had this story

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Speaker 1: break yesterday. And I won't spend much time on this

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Speaker 1: because I know some of you like, oh, no Russia stuff,

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Speaker 1: but that there was a second meeting, and I just

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Speaker 1: I reported, I mean I didn't report it. I read

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Speaker 1: it to you told you about it because it was

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Speaker 1: reported that there was this second meeting with with Trump

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Speaker 1: and Putin at the G twenty. And the G twenty is,

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Speaker 1: as I said, a giant affair of nothingness. It is

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Speaker 1: a waste of everyone's time. Whatever country is there, their

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Speaker 1: taxpayers should be annoyed because it's not I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess you could say that, you know, having some of

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Speaker 1: these world leaders shake each other's hands, is it's worth something?

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm not sure it's worth much.

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Speaker 1: But here's what they're saying now or here, Rather, here's

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Speaker 1: what Trump is saying. President Trump lashed out at a

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Speaker 1: report that he and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a second,

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Speaker 1: previously undisclosed talk during the G twenty summit in Germany

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Speaker 1: earlier this month. Quote this is on Twitter. Fake news

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Speaker 1: story of secret dinner with Putin is sick. All G

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Speaker 1: twenty leaders and spouses were invited by the Chancellor of Germany.

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Speaker 1: Press knew Fox reports that the President said the dinner

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Speaker 1: at which the encounter took place was known to members

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Speaker 1: of the media who were covering the event. Trump then

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Speaker 1: followed up with another tweet, becoming more and more dishonest.

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Speaker 1: The fake news is becoming more and more dishonest. Even

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Speaker 1: a dinner arrange for top twenty leaders in Germany is

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Speaker 1: made to look sinister. Uh so, well, here we have

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Speaker 1: the the appearance of Trump at a dinner. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of other people and now I think CNN broke this.

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Speaker 1: But CNN saying that this is quote a classic bit

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Speaker 1: of Trump misdirection. No media outlet reported anything about a

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Speaker 1: secret dinner. No one is making the dinner look sinister,

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Speaker 1: and no one is suggesting that the media was unaware

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Speaker 1: that the dinner was taking place. This is from Chris Saliza.

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Speaker 1: That is not the story. The stories at the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States had a somewhat lengthy sidebar conversation

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Speaker 1: with the President of Russia with no other U S

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Speaker 1: officials president present. No, I'm sorry, it is supposed to

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Speaker 1: look sinister. I mean, is this this is how we're

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Speaker 1: gonna play this game? Now? We're all just supposed to Oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't figure anything out. I'm just, you know, whatever

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Speaker 1: the precesss. You know, this is crazy. Of course, the

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Speaker 1: report about a second meeting with with Putin and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't a meeting. The guys at dinner and he's like

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Speaker 1: where it's gonna happen. Really, this reminds me of when

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Speaker 1: there was all that the breathless reporting about Jeff Sessions

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Speaker 1: unreported meeting with a Russian ambassador that was set up

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Speaker 1: in public by the Heritage Foundation. It was like a

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Speaker 1: is an awesome guy and a patriot, and uh, he's

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Speaker 1: just like this is crazy. But the press Stone reported

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Speaker 1: like all up draft sessions here was you know, he

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Speaker 1: was like, look, maybe we'll admit this election more more

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Speaker 1: fun for you, more easy? And is my Russian to

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Speaker 1: Transylvanian or am I just know I gotta work on this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Um, we are going to probably do

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Speaker 1: the real history of this is like putting, uh, putting

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Speaker 1: a pin in the calendar for way, way far away.

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Speaker 1: But in October I like to do a Halloween special.

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Speaker 1: Will probably do the real history of Dracula this year,

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Speaker 1: which is amazing by the way. Um, so get excited

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Speaker 1: for that on Halloween. But we're gonna talk about Trump

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Speaker 1: stuff from today, including voter voter fraud and some other

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Speaker 1: issues in that in the headlines. Will be right back.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about voter fraud, everybody. The President today had

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Speaker 1: a meeting of his voter Fraud Commission, and they have

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Speaker 1: the Election Integrity Panel, and here is our President United States,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, talking about, well, what they're trying to accomplish

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Speaker 1: with this. This issue is very important to me because

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Speaker 1: throughout the campaign and even after, people would come up

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Speaker 1: to me and express their concerns about voter inconsistencies and

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Speaker 1: irregularities which they saw in some cases having to do

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Speaker 1: with very large numbers of people in certain states. All

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Speaker 1: public officials have a profound responsibility to protect the integrity

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Speaker 1: of the vote. We have no choice. We want to

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Speaker 1: make America great again, we have to protect the integrity

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Speaker 1: of the vote and our voters. This is not a

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Speaker 1: Democrat or a Republican issue. It's an American issue. It's

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Speaker 1: about the concern of so many Americans that improper voting

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Speaker 1: has taken place and canceling out the votes of lawful

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Speaker 1: American citizens. President Trump talking about this issue really upsets

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Speaker 1: the left, and I think that what you're gonna find

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Speaker 1: as they continue to look at this is that regardless

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Speaker 1: of the outcome. This exposes some very uncomfortable positions that

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Speaker 1: the left takes on on voting. First of all, they

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Speaker 1: will say, for example, you you will often hear from Democrats,

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Speaker 1: from pundits, from people go on TV and are supposed

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Speaker 1: to know stuff. But here's a secret. Most of them

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Speaker 1: don't know anything. Most of them are actually terrible. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: there are all right, says the radio host. Uh, there

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Speaker 1: are no instances they'll tell you of voter fraud. Voter

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Speaker 1: fraud is not real. That's what they will say. And then,

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Speaker 1: sure enough, either on social media or if there's a

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Speaker 1: point counterpoint, someone like me, well if I'm if I'm

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Speaker 1: on TV, we'll get to say, okay, well, people go

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Speaker 1: to prison for it every year, so your statement is false.

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Speaker 1: And then they'll throw off their hands and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: well but fine, what what is it? Five cases in

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Speaker 1: this state, five cases in that state. And you say

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Speaker 1: to yourself, okay, well, but you you made a blanket

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Speaker 1: statement that suggests that there's no such thing as voter fraud,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of a crazy thing to say, right.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, if you go back and look at, uh,

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Speaker 1: the career of Lyndon Johnson, if you go back and

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Speaker 1: look at what some people say about Kennedy. Voter fraud

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Speaker 1: probably changed the course of US history with national elections,

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Speaker 1: with with presidential elections, with Senate elections. I mean, depends

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Speaker 1: on which instance we're talking about. But but voter fraud

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Speaker 1: is a real thing. Does happen, People go to prison

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Speaker 1: for it. And we really have no way of knowing

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Speaker 1: what the scope and scale of the problem is. We

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Speaker 1: just we have no way of knowing. And if you

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Speaker 1: look at the Senate race up in Minnesota, for example,

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Speaker 1: between Al Frankin and I believe it was Norm Coleman,

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Speaker 1: which turned on Remember this is a race for the U. S. Senate,

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Speaker 1: turned on a few a few hundred votes. Uh do

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Speaker 1: we do we really think that it's inconceivable that there

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Speaker 1: may be in a statewide election a hundred votes here

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Speaker 1: or there that are fraudulent, that are improperly cast, even

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Speaker 1: without melicia malicious intent, which I want to get to

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Speaker 1: that as well. By the way, how that's a major

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Speaker 1: part of this issue. Um, But election can be very close.

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Speaker 1: Need I refresh memories here about the two thousand presidents

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Speaker 1: presidential election with Al Gore and George w you know,

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Speaker 1: hanging chads and dimples and all that stuff here and

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Speaker 1: there on the voting machines and or dimple chats, hangings,

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Speaker 1: whatever it was. Um, those are two different things. It

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Speaker 1: was a small number of votes. So when you look

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Speaker 1: at a state and you find out that there are

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Speaker 1: maybe thousands of thousands of dead people, tens of thousands

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Speaker 1: of dead people who are still registered to vote, or

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Speaker 1: there are convicted felons who are still registered to vote,

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Speaker 1: or there are and and maybe have cast votes right,

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Speaker 1: and and you you start to look at all the

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Speaker 1: different ways. Never on motor voter, which says you know

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Speaker 1: they try to register people at the d m V. Well,

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Speaker 1: in a place like California, you can, as an illegal,

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Speaker 1: you can get a driver's license, which is pretty astonishing

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Speaker 1: when you just take a step back and think about

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Speaker 1: that for a second. You can get a driver's license.

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Speaker 1: And they're also at the DMV trying to assign people

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Speaker 1: up to vote. And I don't mean to I don't

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Speaker 1: mean to suggest that necessarily an illegal who's been in

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Speaker 1: this country for a long time even knows that they

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Speaker 1: are committing an additional illegality by voting when they're not

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Speaker 1: a citizen. But they may think, well, they're giving me

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Speaker 1: this form, and so you know, I'm gonna vote, and

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Speaker 1: that's and now you get into the numbers and look,

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Speaker 1: is it helpful. Is it helpful that the Trump that

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Speaker 1: President Trump himself said that, you know, he would have

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Speaker 1: won the popular vote and two to three million votes

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Speaker 1: may have been illegally cast. Well, you can argue that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's sloppy from the perspective of numbers and accuracy,

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Speaker 1: and some of you're probably laughing, You're like, Buck, you

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Speaker 1: really bend it over back. It's sloppy. But but on

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Speaker 1: the other hand, you can say, well, no one really,

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Speaker 1: no one knows, and it does raise the possibility or

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Speaker 1: at least raises the idea in people's minds that there

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Speaker 1: might be voting that's in a presidential election. You know,

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Speaker 1: there might be tens of thousands, maybe in the low

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Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of votes that should not have been

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Speaker 1: cast for a whole variety of reasons, and that could

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Speaker 1: be the determining factor in the presidential election. As we know,

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Speaker 1: these elections can get very very close. We are a

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Speaker 1: polarized country when it comes to our politics. Between two

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Speaker 1: between two polls, we are politically uh well, I guess

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Speaker 1: politically bipolar, so to speak. I mean, we are at

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Speaker 1: two ends Democrat and Republican. So Trump is trying to

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Speaker 1: get this out there for and you know, I know

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Speaker 1: Chris Kobak is also very involved with this issue and

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Speaker 1: has been has been pushing it. Uh, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: something that he's of course getting a ton of heat

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Speaker 1: from the left on this. Um Kobak is in what

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Speaker 1: is he He's a Kansas right, so he's he's a

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Speaker 1: part of this as well. Kansas is Republican Secretary of State.

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Speaker 1: He's the vice chairman of Trump's commission on this voter

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Speaker 1: fraud issue. But now we get into okay, so that's

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Speaker 1: those are the maybees, the why that let's look into

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Speaker 1: this and as additional context, remember we hear all the

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Speaker 1: stuff about Russia and election hacking and collusion and all that,

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Speaker 1: and with all the sanctimonious Democrat oh we'll do. You know,

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Speaker 1: our elections are so important that this is an American

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Speaker 1: issue when the elections have to be perfect, and you

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Speaker 1: know what if Russia changed, like okay, fine, right, we

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Speaker 1: we are supposed to all take this seriously as Americans.

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Speaker 1: That are the integrity of our electoral processes are essential,

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Speaker 1: and like I'm I'm not making light of our electoral processes.

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Speaker 1: I do think that they are vastly intentionally exaggerating even

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Speaker 1: the possibility of of impact on voters from all that

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Speaker 1: Russia stuff. But they of course have a political incentive

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Speaker 1: into and pushing that narrative as much as they possibly can.

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Speaker 1: But on the one hand, we're hearing all the stuff about, oh,

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Speaker 1: look at Russia. Maybe Russia did some it was involved

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Speaker 1: in the election in a way that was problematic. On

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Speaker 1: the other hand, when we talk about the very real

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Speaker 1: ways that there could be voter fraud going on, and

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Speaker 1: there are cases of voter fraud, they are prosecuted, so

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Speaker 1: it is a crime that happens. That is an established fact.

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Speaker 1: When you look at it and you want to try

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Speaker 1: to find out more, you get all this pushback from Democrats.

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Speaker 1: They get all weirded out about this, And wait, I

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Speaker 1: thought that, you know, we I thought that a few

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Speaker 1: Russian based bots putting out, you know, stories about pizza

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Speaker 1: gate or whatever on the Internet or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: I I thought that was a threat to democracy. But

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Speaker 1: maybe tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people voting

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Speaker 1: who are not supposed to vote. That's not we're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to look into that. We we can't even get answers.

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Speaker 1: In fact, this is where they really go with this,

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Speaker 1: even looking for answers as somehow it's it's like, it's racist.

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Speaker 1: You're just trying to get rid of the votes of minorities,

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Speaker 1: poor people. Um, you know, say the elderly, but you know,

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Speaker 1: the elderly a lot of vote Republican obviously, so they

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Speaker 1: won't throw that in there quite as much. But minorities,

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Speaker 1: poor people, young people, um, you're just trying to disenfranchise them.

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Speaker 1: So the argument over voting always go it always falls

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Speaker 1: into the same the same two camps here. The Republicans

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Speaker 1: are like, well, let's have voter I D. Let's strengthen

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Speaker 1: our systems, let's know more about what's going on. And

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Speaker 1: Democrats are always you're racist, that's mean, no voter I D.

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Speaker 1: You should just show up and vote. Let's not pay

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Speaker 1: attention to who's voting, let's not count, let's not look

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Speaker 1: into this, no investigations, no offens or but just you know,

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Speaker 1: just shut your face. Republicans, set your face, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that's basically how it always goes now, Now, Trump,

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Speaker 1: because he's president, has the authority and to say so

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Speaker 1: to go, No, I don't think so. I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna look into this a little bit more. And he

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Speaker 1: even asked, why is it that when the federal government

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Speaker 1: back in May requested information for the Voter road Commission

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Speaker 1: from states, there are twenty states that have refused to

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Speaker 1: comply with this request. Thirty states have shared the information

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Speaker 1: about voting and what's going on there, but but twenty

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Speaker 1: states are saying no, they're they're not going to do it. Um.

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Speaker 1: Trump addressed this today when he had his Voter Commission meeting.

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Speaker 1: If any state does not want to share this information,

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Speaker 1: one has to wonder what they're worried about. And I

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Speaker 1: asked the Vice President, I asked the commission, what are

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Speaker 1: they worried about? There's something there always is, Yeah, why

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Speaker 1: not just share the information? Well, there's there's all this pushback.

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Speaker 1: I understand there are political narratives here, but here's where. Well,

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Speaker 1: in the in the short term, what you'll see, and

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Speaker 1: this is why it's a brilliant move for the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration to do this. Um. In the short from, what

851
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: you'll see are a lot of Democrats, politicians and the

852
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: media saying things about voting that are not true and

853
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: showing this very strange reflexive defensiveness over any inquiry into

854
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: whether there are legal votes being cast or not. There

855
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: there will be this this automatic brob voter fraud. It's

856
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: not a real thing. And why do you care? I mean,

857
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, I mean that the government spends like millions

858
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: of dollars with various federal agencies, you know, looking into

859
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: the mating habits of of of seasonal snails. You know,

860
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: you figure that we could look into voter fraud, right,

861
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this is is this really such a terrible

862
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: waste of resources? In time? Experts on the issue will say,

863
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: we don't know legitimate experts on on voting and voter integrity.

864
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: They'll they'll tell you it'll we have no way of

865
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: tracking this. I mean, I can tell you from my

866
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: own experience here in New York City working with career

867
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: law enforcement at the NYPD. Whenever I talked to we

868
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: would talk about like medica um, well, not just medicated fraud,

869
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: but any form of welfare fraud. There's no there's no

870
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: political will or in centive to prosecute low level welfare

871
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: fraud because you know, people don't people don't want to

872
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: do it, they don't want to spend the resources, and

873
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: certainly in a place like New York City, it's a

874
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: bad political look, right, you're going after the underclass. If

875
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 1: somebody's cheating, if someone's you know, claiming dependence, they don't

876
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: have it. So when people talk about, oh, how much

877
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: fraud is there in the cistant, they don't know. They

878
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Sure, once every six months they'll prosecute somebody

879
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: who's claiming, like you know, to have twenty dependents and

880
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: is getting welfare benefits upwards of ten tho dollars a

881
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: month or something, right, And and and that's supposed to be

882
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: you know, cracking down. Sure, once in a while there'll

883
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: be someone who votes four times and is really dumb

884
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: about it, and they'll get prosecuted. But do we have

885
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: any way of knowing who's voted. But there's there's some

886
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: even bigger issues at at play here, which is how

887
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: this will, if there are some interesting findings, how that

888
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: will play out, And I think could be used in

889
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: part to dull the edge of the Russia collusion narrative

890
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: through thee or fraud issue. But I'll have to explain

891
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: that to you on the other side of the breaks.

892
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: Stay with me. I got much more. You think that

893
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: maybe Hillary Clinton did not win the popular vote, We

894
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: may never know the answer to that question. May never

895
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: know the answer to that question. Really, really, you really

896
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: believe that? Well, I'm what I'm saying is, let's suppose

897
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: that the commission determined that there were a certain number

898
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: of votes cast by ineligible voters. You still won't know

899
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: whether those people who are ineligible voted for Trump or

900
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: for Clinton, or for somebody else. Votes for Donald Trump

901
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: that led him to win the election. In doubt as well,

902
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: absolute there are ineligible voters in an election, people who

903
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: are non citizens, people who are felons who shouldn't be voting.

904
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: You don't broken, are we not? Should we not be

905
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: confident that when we cast a ballot that anyone we're

906
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: voting for is actually going to get elected. That's exactly

907
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: the commission, That's exactly the reason the commission exists. That's

908
00:51:54,880 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: MSNBC's Katie Ture and Kansas Secretary of State Chris Bach,

909
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: who's a vice chair on the Presidential Advisory Commission on

910
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: Election Integrity, going back and forth there you see what

911
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: I mean. You'll notice that with the left, and I

912
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: mean MSNBC anchor, she's clearly a progressive. Um. If I

913
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: had to guess, she probably lives in in Park Slope

914
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, those year from New York, know what I'm

915
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: talking about. Uh. That any asking any questions, trying to

916
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: get answers, that's that's a sin here, that's unacceptable. They

917
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: don't want you to even do that. That'll get you

918
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: in trouble. You're like, wait a second, well, I we

919
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: would like to know the extent the possibles down to

920
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: the fraud here left the leftist hostile to that because

921
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: they also have as an assumption that if only more

922
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: people voted, Democrats would always win and Democrats lose. This

923
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: is a baked in assumption. Every election, no matter what

924
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: it is, Democrats lose because of voters suppression, which is racist.

925
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: That's usually what the that's the narrative, that's the storyline

926
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: that Democrats tell themselves so they you know, feel safe

927
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: and warm at night after they lose elections. Uh. And

928
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: that's very it's very important to them also because it's

929
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: another method of having a discussion about racism. Right, they

930
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: say oh, voter suppression. Voter suppression is because of racism,

931
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 1: and Republicans are racist, and therefore all of their voter

932
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: integrity measures are really just cloaked uh measures of racism

933
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: right there, just veiled efforts to be racist. And that's

934
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: how this discussion always going back and forth, even though

935
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: in some cases they'll they'll do something, they'll change a

936
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: I think it was in North Carolina they changed the

937
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: voter I D law and even more minorities in the

938
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: following election turned out than the election before. But the

939
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: facts with this stuff don't matter. It's the it's the

940
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: perception that really matters the most. But here's what I

941
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: what I wanted to get out before um, and this

942
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: is keep this in mind no matter what the Just

943
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: like with Russia, you know, once you've established in the

944
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: media's mind and in democrats across the country, once you've

945
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: established that Russia, whether you believe this or not, by

946
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: the way, but once you've put out there that Russia

947
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: wanted Trump to win and did something to help him win,

948
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: you can call into question. And that's what Democrats do,

949
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: the whole legitimacy of the entire process, because how effective

950
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: was that effort yeah, we'll never know, but it is

951
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: Trump only the president, you know, I'm not really sure

952
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: that's what Democrats do. Okay, Well, once they push forward

953
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: with this, and you could see and that's why there

954
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: was that hostility with Katie Turr and Chris Kobach there

955
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: because of how this I think the Democrats at some

956
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: level know how this is going to play out, or

957
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: at least this is how I see it playing out.

958
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: As they get more information about states and about voting

959
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: in different states and registration and everything that's impossible voter

960
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: or intimidation and whatever else they're looking into. They don't

961
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: need to have ironclad proof of millions of people voting

962
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: who are ineligible to vote to call in a question

963
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: the election, right they all they need depends on the state.

964
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: But if they can even find evidence that, I don't know,

965
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: ten thousand people voted who are ineligible, they can always say, well,

966
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: that's all that's just what we found. So that's that's, uh,

967
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. And if we really knew

968
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: the full extent, and we can't, by the way, because

969
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: of the way that you know, in some places, you

970
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: just like sign a statement that says I'm eligible to vote,

971
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: and there's no voter idea, and there's all kinds of

972
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: variations because we have no way of really knowing if

973
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: you can prove I know, this is I'm kind of

974
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: getting down in the weeds here in a buck theory.

975
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: But if you can prove that there were any irregularities

976
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: in the last election when it comes to UH voters

977
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: who are ineligible to vote in substantial numbers, not huge numbers,

978
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: but substantial numbers, then it allows Republicans. That allows the

979
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: Trump administration to do on that issue what the Democrats

980
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: have been doing on Russia, which is that you know

981
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: how people say, oh, the Democrats have or the Democrats

982
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: act the Russians hacked the election, and that's just a

983
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: phrase that's used as though that's not a really dishonest

984
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: way of approaching at all. What you will have once

985
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: this commission is done is, uh, you know there were

986
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: there were Democrats who were cheating. That'll be I think

987
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: you'll find that that was a true statement. Mean, there'll

988
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: be some Democrat voters out there who weren't supposed to vote,

989
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: and that will become a narrative, just like Russia hacked

990
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: the election. As a narrative, you have all Democrats were cheating.

991
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: There was cheating going on. How much cheating, well we'll

992
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: never really know, but we know that they cheated. Do

993
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: you see the peril? You see the similarity of what

994
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: they've done with Russia. By the way, all it takes

995
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: is some little little effort online, some cyber intrusions, some

996
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: campaign of fake news, whatever it is, and oh, they

997
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: hacked the election. Okay, Well that Trump's gonna turn around

998
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: and say, oh, you mean some of these in some

999
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: cases taxpayer subsidized, you know, get out the vote efforts,

1000
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: and some of these community organizer groups and some of

1001
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: these unions, and there there were some there was some shenanigans,

1002
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: there were some voting happening that shouldn't have happened. And

1003
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: of course the assumption will be or in some cases

1004
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: might will prove there's for Democrats. Well that's just what

1005
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: we found. But you know, Russia hacked the election. Democrats

1006
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: cheated in the election. That's what I think you're going

1007
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: to see the narrative turn into. Just give it some

1008
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: time and that will drive that will drive the left crazy,

1009
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: which should be kind of fun to watch. Um, We've

1010
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: got much more to talk about, including civil asset forfeiture

1011
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: where I really depart with the administration on this one.

1012
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. He's back with you now, because

1013
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck

1014
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 1: never stops. So what's all gonna happen? How have we got?

1015
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: We got Louie Gomert. He's talking about what's going on

1016
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: with the country and whether Trump will succeed or not,

1017
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: and who wants him to succeed. And I've always really

1018
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: liked Louis. Here's what here's what he's from Texas. Of course,

1019
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: here's what he had to say. I actually think that

1020
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: there are people within the Republican Party in this building

1021
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm standing in who are not interest it in seeing

1022
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: Trump succeed. And I'll tell you what. It's not about

1023
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: Trump succeeding. It's about the American people succeeding. Because Trump succeeds,

1024
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: So they got to put aside those things. Okay, it's

1025
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: about the American people succeeding. If Trump succeeds. Well, how's

1026
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: that all going? I got somebody who's gonna weigh in

1027
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: on this now. Michael Goodwin, New York Post columnist and

1028
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: Fox News contributor. His latest up on New York Post

1029
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: dot Com despite his missteps, don't consider Trump a failure

1030
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: just yet, Michael. Great to have you back, sir, Thank

1031
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: you Buck. Okay, you say, not a failure yet. Let's

1032
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: let's first just get it out there, because you're gonna

1033
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: give us this the sunny side of things, the silver lining,

1034
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: the bright future that still may lay ahead. But what

1035
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: do you see as the missteps because you've been somebody

1036
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: who's on the Trump train. Yeah, look, I mean I

1037
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: think that uh, the latest, the biggest being Donald Trump

1038
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: Junior's meeting with the Russian lawyer. Um. I think in

1039
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: hindsight even he has acknowledged he would have done it differently,

1040
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: and I think that was a tacit admission that it

1041
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: was a mistake. I mean, look at the trouble that's brought.

1042
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: There's a report that Robert Mueller has contacted the eighth

1043
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: person in the meeting, a Russian real estate developer, and

1044
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: asked for an interview. So that means Mueller is looking

1045
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: at the meeting now. That is a significant development. Um.

1046
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: I think there are other examples too. I think that

1047
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: the president um has damaged his own credibility with some

1048
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: of the tweets. Any time he goes after people personally

1049
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: in the tweeting, I think it's uh, he's punching down.

1050
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: The president of the United States should not be punching

1051
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: down to even make a Bragian Ski or anybody like that.

1052
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: The the other one, I think, the big one really

1053
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: is the effective or ineffective operation of the White House itself.

1054
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I have never seen in so many leaks

1055
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 1: coming from the West Wing. Um, you have a lot

1056
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: of clear differences being played out in the media. You know,

1057
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: it's almost as though, uh, different parts of different newspapers

1058
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: and media organizations have different sources who are competing with

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Speaker 1: each other too to bad mouth the other side. Um,

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Speaker 1: So when you hear reporters that I have heard reporters

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Speaker 1: talking as though, uh, they cannot believe the vituperation in

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Speaker 1: the White House and the rankor and the bitterness and

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Speaker 1: how open me people are expressing it to the media.

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Speaker 1: So I think that is a major issue that the

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Speaker 1: White House itself still does not seem to be settled,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to be focused, it doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: be united, and if it's pulling in different directions and

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Speaker 1: people are undercutting each other, can only imagine, uh, you

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Speaker 1: know how the impact of that plays out in terms

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Speaker 1: of something like healthcare, where you get the president out

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Speaker 1: on a limb and just not be able to bring

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party with him. Before I push you, Michael

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Speaker 1: on telling us how you think this can only get

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Speaker 1: fixed and how America could in fact still be made

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Speaker 1: great again. I guess pardon me for for barring from

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Speaker 1: the campaign there, but how do you apport So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the positive side of it and how

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Speaker 1: things can be turned around in a second, everybody, don't

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Speaker 1: don't don't, don't worry, um, but how do you apportion

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Speaker 1: the blame for the healthcare tobacco right now? In terms

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Speaker 1: of Trump Visa VI the Congress? Because I I said

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Speaker 1: at the start of the show today, Trump is the

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Speaker 1: Trump is selling the deal, but he's not the guy

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Speaker 1: constructing the deal. That's up to Congress. So I think

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Speaker 1: it mostly falls with Mitch McConnell and before him, Paul Ryan.

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Speaker 1: But I want to know what your take is. I

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Speaker 1: completely agree. There have been some criticism that the president

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Speaker 1: wasn't deeply involved enough. Look, Barack Obama was very involved

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Speaker 1: in Obamacare. Look what it does, master it was. I

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Speaker 1: don't think particularly look this president, this is not his

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Speaker 1: area of strength. He was a Johnny Come Lately to

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Speaker 1: healthcare um. So I think that that he's supposed to

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Speaker 1: be the detail man now I think is wrong. He

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Speaker 1: is selling He is trying to bring the Republican Party

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Speaker 1: together and try to get it to night around wherever

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Speaker 1: there are fifty votes. That's what he did in the

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Speaker 1: House with Paul Ryan Uh. Wherever there was a majority

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Speaker 1: to sixteen, he was going to be there with it.

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Speaker 1: The same in the in the Senate. So I think

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Speaker 1: he is leaving the details to others. He is not

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Speaker 1: trying to get senators to vote for something they disapprove

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Speaker 1: of and en masked. He's simply saying to Mitch McConnell

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Speaker 1: in this case, where are the fifty votes, Bring me

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Speaker 1: that bill and I will try to sell it. We're

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Speaker 1: speaking to Michael Goodwin. He's New York Post Columus and

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Speaker 1: Fox News contributors. Got a piece up right now on

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Speaker 1: New York Post dot com. Despite his missteps, don't consider

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Speaker 1: Trump a failure just yet. Let's talk about that. Not

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Speaker 1: a failure just yet means he can still succeed. Michael,

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Speaker 1: how does that happen starting right now. Well, look, I

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Speaker 1: think that some of the things we're talking about, I mean,

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Speaker 1: remember Buck, when the House was failing to get Obamacare

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Speaker 1: through and then suddenly they did. There was the you know,

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Speaker 1: the great celebration on the on the Rose Garden because

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Speaker 1: the House did what they thought it couldn't be done.

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Speaker 1: Now at the Senate, we're to pull a rabbit out

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Speaker 1: of a hat. I think that the mood would change dramatically.

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Speaker 1: But look, I think overall my point about not counting

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Speaker 1: Trump out is that nothing that's happened has foreclosed the

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Speaker 1: promise of his presidency. In other words, everything that he

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Speaker 1: talked about raising the economy, bringing back manufacturing jobs, UH,

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Speaker 1: taking better so that trade deals work for the country,

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Speaker 1: so that the budget works better for the country, so

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Speaker 1: that the military is stronger. None of that has been stopped.

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Speaker 1: None of that has been permanently knocked off track. I

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Speaker 1: think it's taken longer to get these things moving that

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Speaker 1: it should have. But I think the regulation movements alone,

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Speaker 1: uh Gorsic on the Supreme Court, I mean, these are

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Speaker 1: all positive signs that will pay dividends for years. So

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Speaker 1: this idea that the whole presidency is a failure, and

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Speaker 1: you know he's coming apart it. The seems there are

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Speaker 1: days when it feels like that, but that is not

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Speaker 1: the larger reality. Michael, what are your thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: press getting so upset about these on or off camera

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Speaker 1: briefings And we had Sean Spice, you're talking about this.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's just hear what he said. I don't want

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Speaker 1: your reaction. We brief every day. Uh. And the question

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Speaker 1: is I think for some individuals, uh, they want it,

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Speaker 1: they want everything on camera every day. Is you know,

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Speaker 1: like today, the president is gonna have several events on camera,

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Speaker 1: He's gonna have the pool involved, um, and so on

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Speaker 1: days when he's gonna be doing big events and making

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Speaker 1: major policy initiatives, it's obviously much more important to have

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Speaker 1: the president's voice carry the day, and so we'll engage

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Speaker 1: with reporters throughout the day. One of the things that

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Speaker 1: that people don't sometimes appreciate because of the way that

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Speaker 1: they get it is, you know, we're here very early

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Speaker 1: in the morning, we stay very late at night. We're

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Speaker 1: engaging with the press all day long, doing interviews like this,

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Speaker 1: communicating with the press, and then we do do a

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Speaker 1: briefing every single day. Um, I think for a lot

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Speaker 1: of folks that they're more interested in getting the clip, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, to to put on the internet, to put

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Speaker 1: on their news and and we're not. We're interested in

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Speaker 1: making sure that we communicate with the American people, that

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Speaker 1: we give the press an opportunity to get their questions answering.

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Speaker 1: I think Spider is on very strong ground here because

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Speaker 1: I think it is I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are looking for that viral anti Trump moment in the

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Speaker 1: West wing these days. Absolutely, and look, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think it's it's instructive that uh, press secretaries from previous administrations,

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Speaker 1: both Democrats and Republicans, have publicly publicly advised the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration very early on and during the transition period even

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Speaker 1: don't these things on television every day. It's not necessary.

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Speaker 1: It just becomes a show and in a cheap way

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Speaker 1: to attack the president. I mean, the questions become accusations

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Speaker 1: when they are on the camera that way. So it

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Speaker 1: is it is at the end of the week you

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Speaker 1: have had what several hundred accusations thrown up to president

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Speaker 1: and then one person trying to fend them off like uh,

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Speaker 1: like a batting cage. I mean, that's hardly I think

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Speaker 1: helpful to the president. And look, this is not a

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Speaker 1: First Amendment issue. Nobody is saying the media can't write

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Speaker 1: or say whatever it wants. It's just the White House

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Speaker 1: saying we don't have to, you know, put our head

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Speaker 1: in the in the dunking pool every day to satisfy

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Speaker 1: your audience. Michael Vidwin of The New York Post and

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Speaker 1: Fox News. Great to have you on, Michael. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for your time. Oh it's a pleasure. Buck, Thank you, team.

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Speaker 1: Our phones are open here eight four four, nine to

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Speaker 1: eight to five. Also, please do check out well check

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Speaker 1: out me, check me out on Twitter at buck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to engage more with those you on

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Speaker 1: Team Buck. I've been hearing that you guys want more

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Speaker 1: during show engagement, so I'll try to be responding as

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Speaker 1: I can. It's at buck Sexton. If you're on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and also on Facebook, you can send me thoughts there

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Speaker 1: anytime you want. We also are posting stories there throughout

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Speaker 1: the day at Facebook, dot com, slash buck Sexton and

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Speaker 1: uh buck sex and dot com has got gear up.

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Speaker 1: just saying, all right now, I'm really promoting everything. Okay, team,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back in a few Stay with me. Women's

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Speaker 1: March stand for it's a question that we've asked here

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Speaker 1: before on the show, and I suppose we have something

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Speaker 1: of an answer to that, or at least a partial

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Speaker 1: answer when they tweet out from their official count Twitter,

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Speaker 1: causing so many problems for organizations these days, tweet out

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Speaker 1: from their official account. Remember this is the Women's March,

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Speaker 1: which did that whole anti Trump Women's March in d C.

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Speaker 1: And they have the profane pink hats and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: But they tweeted out, happy birthday to the revolutionary Assata

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Speaker 1: shakur Uh. Today's sign of resistance is in as Sada's honor.

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Speaker 1: Now some of you, well some of you already know

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Speaker 1: all about this, but some of you been be thinking, wait,

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Speaker 1: who is a Sada Shakur. Well, her name originally was

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Speaker 1: Joanne Chesimard, and she's been on the FBI's most wanted

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Speaker 1: list for decades for being a cop killer. She was

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Speaker 1: part of an organization called the Black Liberation Army, and

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Speaker 1: back in three with a couple of accomplices, she had

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Speaker 1: been stopped on the New Jersey Turnpike by New Jersey

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Speaker 1: state troopers and with her accomplices, she opened fire on them.

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Speaker 1: One trooper was wounded, the other was killed execution style

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Speaker 1: at point blank range. She was sentenced to life in

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Speaker 1: prison for that crime. She escaped prison and fled to Cuba, which,

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Speaker 1: in yet another one of the Cuban government's uh petty

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Speaker 1: but very annoying slaps in the face of the United

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Speaker 1: States government, granted her political asylum, where she has been since.

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Speaker 1: And so you have the Women's March uh tweeting out

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Speaker 1: a happy birthday and a sign of respect and reverence

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Speaker 1: for a cup killer who fled justice in this country,

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Speaker 1: and some other individuals not going to name them here,

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Speaker 1: but the other media people are saying, oh, well, I

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Speaker 1: still don't believe that she was guilty. Oh okay, so

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Speaker 1: now of convicted cop killers, and we get to the

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Speaker 1: media position for some people can be well that you

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Speaker 1: know that wasn't really a trial or whatever. But then

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Speaker 1: it gets even, it goes to a level beyond this,

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Speaker 1: because sure, the Women's March gets into some gets into

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Speaker 1: some well people take umbradge at this understandably so and

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Speaker 1: Jake Tapper, Jake Tapper wants to know why this is okay,

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Speaker 1: why the Women's March would do this? And in response, yes,

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Speaker 1: Linda sars I remember I told you would talk about

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Speaker 1: Assada Shakur and UH and Linda sar Sore. Linda sar Sore,

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Speaker 1: the UH activist pro Sharia islamist who is now getting

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Speaker 1: way too much attention to the media. But she's out

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Speaker 1: there because of Jake Tapper expressing his concern for a

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Speaker 1: very obviously stupid and reckless tweet from the Women's March

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Speaker 1: Twitter account. Jake Tapper, who always gets a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit for sometimes asking a very obvious and straightforward question

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Speaker 1: as a journalist, but he's not a complete left wing loon.

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Speaker 1: And so people are are like, oh, Jake Tapper's America's

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Speaker 1: conscience on TV. I'm like, I mean, that guy's okay,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think we're thinking that. I remember when

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Speaker 1: he worked for ABC, he would ask Obama an actual

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Speaker 1: policy question, but that separated him from the rest of

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Speaker 1: the West wing reporters who were just like President Obama,

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Speaker 1: what's it like to be just so much smarter and

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Speaker 1: more wonderful than everybody else? Can can you address that

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Speaker 1: question in several parts? And we have all the time

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Speaker 1: you need, sir? That was the press with Obama and

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Speaker 1: then Jake Tapper saying, well, I mean you kind of

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Speaker 1: like said, you know, if you like your plan, you

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Speaker 1: can keep it. Isn't that like maybe not what happened?

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Speaker 1: And Jake Tapper speaking truth to power. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of that, right, I mean it's at ABC,

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Speaker 1: asked a few real questions and now he's like a

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Speaker 1: multi multi millionaire over at CNN with his own show

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Speaker 1: and treated like he's did on the front lines of UH,

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Speaker 1: front lines of our democracy and journalism in the you

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Speaker 1: know all that stuff anyway. Um so, but so he says, Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe the Women's March shouldn't be supporting a cop killer,

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Speaker 1: and Linda Sarsata Shakur and lindisar Sore then goes out

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Speaker 1: there and accuses him of being a white nationalist UH

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Speaker 1: and said that he is a member of the alt right.

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Speaker 1: She says, welcome to the party. Please share evidence of

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Speaker 1: ugly sentiments, unapology, unapologetically Muslim, unapologetically Palestinian, pro immigrant, she wrote.

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Speaker 1: Tapper responded by pointing out this from the Delhi Caller

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Speaker 1: that Star Sore had once said that activists ion Hersey

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Speaker 1: Ali shouldn't have her um, her lady, her lady area.

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Speaker 1: It should it should be taken away from her, Which

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Speaker 1: is an incredibly horrific thing to say to a woman

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Speaker 1: who has written about and very public about suffering from

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Speaker 1: female general mutilation fgm um. But that's that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of person that's Sar Sore is she will mock and

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Speaker 1: specifically mock that area when someone is a victim of

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Speaker 1: female general mutilation. Uh So, Tapper, Okay, look, I give

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Speaker 1: credit words due. I mean Tapper stand and I do.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's he is standing up for or at

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Speaker 1: least expressing sanity here. But what does this tell us?

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Speaker 1: You know, this this impulse on the left to revere

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Speaker 1: people like Asada Shakur a cop killer, um, and you know,

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Speaker 1: to revere Fidel Castro. Remember Asada Shakur went to Cuba,

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Speaker 1: where she was able to get asylum to revere. Uh

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Speaker 1: Ernesto che Gavara Cha being like dude, so many so

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Speaker 1: many people I know who are a big cheke of

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Speaker 1: our offense don't even know that that's not his name,

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Speaker 1: like all the people I know who are immunists, who

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Speaker 1: have no idea that Stalin's name wasn't actually Stalin and

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01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: Stalin means man of steel um and they certainly don't

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Speaker 1: know that Stalin's name when he was part of the

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Speaker 1: Bolshevik underground was Coba. And Coba, for those of you

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Speaker 1: who are fans of the Planet of the Apes franchise,

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Speaker 1: is the name of the hardline totalitarian anti human ape

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Speaker 1: in that Coba, which I'm sure is not an accident,

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Speaker 1: right so anyway, but you know, people, don't you know

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Speaker 1: that the left you don't have to knowst of me.

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01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 1: It's all about emotions and feeling. It's like you like,

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01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: has he feels? You say these things? Did he make

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: me feel like? And good? And like you know we

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01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: have radical me in. Uh. You you have to know

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Speaker 1: things if you're going to make the intellectual arguments here,

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01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: if you make the arguments about history, and if you're

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01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 1: going to be rooted in reality. But if you just

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: want to engage in virtue signaling and pound your chest

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: and think yourself a brave social justice this warrior. Yeah,

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01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: tweet out something about Asada Shakur and see where that

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Speaker 1: gets you. And then, if you're Linda sars Or, get

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Speaker 1: even more attention for yourself by h attacking someone for

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Speaker 1: pointing out that Assata Shakor support is not something that

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Speaker 1: anybody left should do. In fact, progressive should denounce it,

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Speaker 1: but very few of them will. You'll you'll notice this.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've we've heard so much in conservative circles

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Speaker 1: about the ault right for a long time. Now, you

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01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 1: you were progressives with denouncing the insanity in their in

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Speaker 1: their ranks, was so quiet, So little of that. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I think they're all scared that they're the next ones

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Speaker 1: that are going to be denounced themselves for not being

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Speaker 1: progressive enough. Let's talk about civil asset forfeiture coming up.

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Speaker 1: He's holding the line for America, buck sext in his back.

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, team Conservatism doesn't feel quite as fashionable

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Speaker 1: on the right as it had in the past. In

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01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: recent years, the right is now firmly ensconced in the

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Speaker 1: Trump movement and a Trump is um and that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean you can't be a conservative and support Trump's agenda.

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Speaker 1: I certainly am and do. But conservative principles are sometimes,

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01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: many of you would probably say a lot of the

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Speaker 1: time getting lost in the shuffle here, and the political

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Speaker 1: needs of today are sometimes overriding what we know to

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Speaker 1: be the long term political philosophical goals of the future.

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Speaker 1: So that's where we get into, for example, for me,

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Speaker 1: a problem with this administration on something that is indicative

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Speaker 1: of many of the biggest problems with government in general

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Speaker 1: in this country, and that civil asset forfeiture, an issue

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Speaker 1: that I've been looking at now for for years. Jeff Sessions,

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Speaker 1: the Attorney general, who as an aside. By the way

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Speaker 1: New York Times reporting today, so take it or leave it,

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Speaker 1: uh that Trump is upset with Sessions for recusing himself

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Speaker 1: in the Russia probe. I actually agree with them there.

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01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: I've been consistent along. I don't think Sessions should have

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Speaker 1: recused himself. I don't think they should have pushed or

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Speaker 1: allowed for a special counsel. Um M, this, this and

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01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: this and all. It's just gonna be problems everybody. You

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01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: get no points for fair play when you're dealing with Democrats,

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01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: so no, no points for good faith is actually a

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01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: better way of putting it. No points for good faith. Um,

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Speaker 1: Lauretta Lynch didn't recuse herself everybody from the Hillary You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. Democrats play to

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Speaker 1: win Republicans on our side. We got a lot of

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Speaker 1: people think any way, the rules there, I mean, okay,

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01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: but you know you're telling us what the rules are.

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01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 1: Democrats are grabbing us by our feet, turning us upside

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Speaker 1: down and emptying out our pockets on the you know,

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Speaker 1: on the playground. You know, but the rules don't punch

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Speaker 1: it bag. I mean, excuse me. You know, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta deal with the rough housing with a

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Speaker 1: little bit of your own rough stuff. But nope, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know. I say that on the one hand, and

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Speaker 1: yet here I am telling you that we need to

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Speaker 1: focus in on on the principles of uh to process

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Speaker 1: and rule of law and limited government when it comes

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Speaker 1: to civil asset forfiture. And I think the administration and

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much I'm assuming this is mostly

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Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions. I don't know how much Trump weighs in

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Speaker 1: on this. One way or the other, although he has been,

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Speaker 1: at least rhetorically speaking, a very UH law and order guy.

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Speaker 1: But you got Jeff Sessions given a press conference today

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Speaker 1: in which he's talking about civil asset forfiture and how

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Speaker 1: they're gonna tighten it up, strengthen it, go for it.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't they tighten it up, that they're going to

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Speaker 1: expand it, and then they want to do more of this.

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Speaker 1: They think this is a very important tool here. I'll

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Speaker 1: let you hear from the Attorney General himself. As any

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Speaker 1: of these law enforcement partners will tell you, and as

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Speaker 1: President Trump knows well, civil asset forfiture is a key

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Speaker 1: to UH that helps law enforcement defund organized crime, takes

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Speaker 1: back ill gotten gains from them and prevent new crimes

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Speaker 1: from being UH committed, and weakens the criminals and their cartels.

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Speaker 1: It weakens the criminal organizations when you take their money,

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Speaker 1: and it strengthens law enforcement when we can share it

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Speaker 1: together and use it to further our effort against crime.

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Speaker 1: Even more importantly, it helps return property to victims of crime.

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Speaker 1: Civil asset forfeiture takes the material support of the criminals

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Speaker 1: and instead makes it material support for law enforcement. Funding

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Speaker 1: priorities like, I'm sorry, continue that proof, vest opioid overdose

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Speaker 1: reversal kits and better training are all paid for by

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Speaker 1: asset forfeitures in departments across this country. Funds that were

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Speaker 1: once used to take lives are now being used to

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Speaker 1: save lives. All right, So that all sounds really good, right? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions is like, look where it's it's one, two, three,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hurt the cartels and then you know it

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Speaker 1: focuses on drug trafficking. Here, we're gonna hurt the cartels.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna help victims by returning cash to them, which

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Speaker 1: I mean in the case of cartels. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's really applicable, at least I can't think of how

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Speaker 1: it's applicable. And then also, and oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna save cops lives because we're gonna give more

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Speaker 1: money to police departments for central programs. It all sounds good.

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Speaker 1: I understand that, right, And that that's why. And there's

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Speaker 1: these are all real arguments. These are all things you

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01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: can check off, and it's there's some truth to all

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Speaker 1: of them, or they're true in part. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: there's any dishonesty here, But they're only true in part

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Speaker 1: because they're not addressing the concerns with civil acid for

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Speaker 1: for sure, which for those of you are wondering, well, Buck,

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Speaker 1: is this even a big deal? It's a It's actually

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Speaker 1: a pretty big deal. And it also sets a very

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Speaker 1: troubling precedent for the federal government for law enforcement, which

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Speaker 1: is the most troubling manifestation law enforcement overreach and law

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Speaker 1: enforcement abuse is the most troubling overreach that the government

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Speaker 1: can engage in because it's the one you know, that

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01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: can use literal force against you as a citizen. So

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Speaker 1: we need to be on we need to be very

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Speaker 1: careful about this. The Justice Department has taken in twenty

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Speaker 1: eight billion dollars over the last decade I see here

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Speaker 1: according to the Washington Post and civil asset forfeiture seizures

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Speaker 1: in this country, and surpassed the losses from all burglaries

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Speaker 1: across the country according to the Atlantic. So we are

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Speaker 1: talking about over time, billions and billions of dollars here

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Speaker 1: that are taken. And now this is the biggest problem

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Speaker 1: with this, although there's a there's a second there's a

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Speaker 1: second component I want to get into the biggest problem

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Speaker 1: is On the due process side, civil asset forfeiture is

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Speaker 1: law enforcement agencies taking money or property, taking proceeds of

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Speaker 1: alleged crimes. They have proven nothing in these cases in

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Speaker 1: terms of criminal activity, nothing has been proven. No criminal

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Speaker 1: charges are have been leveled in these In these cases,

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Speaker 1: in some cases, no criminal charges are put out there,

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Speaker 1: no one is indicted, and it property is taken. How

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Speaker 1: is that not an unlawful taking? How can you claim

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Speaker 1: that there is such a thing as due process when

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Speaker 1: the government can say we think that that bag of

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Speaker 1: cash you have in your car comes from a drug deal,

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Speaker 1: so we're just gonna take that from yet, thanks very much,

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01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 1: and you can go to court and try to prove

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Speaker 1: that it didn't come from a drug deal. Good luck

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Speaker 1: with that. That is what civil asset for For tourists.

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Speaker 1: That's also sometimes how it functions that should be very

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01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: troubling to you. There's there's nothing about this that smells right.

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01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 1: There's nothing about this that's that should sit well with you.

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Speaker 1: And I know I heard Jeff Sessions making the case,

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Speaker 1: and look, I'm I'm I have law enforced in my family.

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Speaker 1: I worked in law enforcement for a short time. I'm

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Speaker 1: as pro law enforcement as anybody can reasonably be okay,

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01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: But this is about law enforcement policy. I'm not blaming

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Speaker 1: the men and women in law enforcement across the country.

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01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm blaming the Justice Department and the top level of

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01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: it for implementing policies putting down guidance like this that

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01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: is troubling. That is really a violation of due process.

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Speaker 1: This is a constitutional issue, my friends. This is not

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Speaker 1: this should not be happening. And then there's another part

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Speaker 1: of this too. I am troubled by any law enforcement

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Speaker 1: efforts where there's an incentive to take private property for

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Speaker 1: the use of law enforcement. And what happens here and

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Speaker 1: this is this is also not not good. What happens

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Speaker 1: is that there are state limitations on what like a

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Speaker 1: state trooper or state police can take and use for

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Speaker 1: their own purposes. But the federal government has work arounds.

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Speaker 1: They have a they of sharing in place for civil

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Speaker 1: asset seizures. That means that if you're now in state

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Speaker 1: law enforcement or local law enforcement and you sees assets

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Speaker 1: and then you know, you do it through this federal program,

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Speaker 1: the federal government kind of kicks it back to the

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Speaker 1: local level and this is used to buy you know,

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Speaker 1: armored personnel carrier kind of stuff for I know that's

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Speaker 1: not it's not actually an APC, but you know, you

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Speaker 1: use it to buy very advanced UH equipment for law

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Speaker 1: and for agencies that local police departments that may or

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Speaker 1: may not really need that um, but it incentivizes cops

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Speaker 1: to take stuff from people without having to prove a

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Speaker 1: crime for the benefit of those of those law enforcement agencies.

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Speaker 1: That is also a very troubling precedent. And you know, conservatives,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there's there's only and some of you are

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01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: gonna say, but come on, healthcare, immigration, naturally, there's there's

1479
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: bigger stuff. I get it, right. I mean, look, we're

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01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: in the third hour of the show. We've already covered

1481
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 1: a lot of ground today. But this is I think

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01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: a an issue of of symbolism of the broader conversation

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01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: as well. The government needs to have clearly defined rules

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Speaker 1: for taking your property, and the government cannot take your

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01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: property because it says you're criminal without proving your criminal

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Speaker 1: This is very straightforward. This should not this should not

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01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: be up for debate or discussion, and that Jeff Sessions

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01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: as Attorney in general, is rolling back some of what

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Speaker 1: the Obama administration did here, which I actually think was

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01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: moving in the right direction on this. I know, and

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01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 1: people are gonna you can you know, you can throw

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01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: tomatoes at me for saying it, But it's true that

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01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: Jeff Sessions is doing this. I think it's wrong. I

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01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: think it's I think the principle here is being violated,

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01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: and I think that this is not conservative, and so

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Speaker 1: I I respectfully but strongly dissent from the administration and

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Speaker 1: the Civil Asset forbiture issue. We've got Matt Walsh and

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01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: also Fred Flights coming up here. Stay with me, team,

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Speaker 1: but everybody, it's time for some national security analysis, and

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01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: we have our friend Fred Flights on the line to

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01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: help us through that. He is a senior vice president

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01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: at the Center for Security Policy. Is also a former

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01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: CIA analyst and former chief of staff to Ambassador John Bolton. Mr.

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01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: Flight's great to have you back, great to be here.

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Speaker 1: But so you wrote on Nashal View, Iran is not

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01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: complying with the nuclear deal, and of course people listening

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01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: because I talked about it yesterday on the show, might think, well,

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01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 1: hold on a second. The Trump administration just re certified

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01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: officially the deal but said that they're not complying in

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01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 1: spirit makes sense of all this for us? Are they complying?

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01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: Are they not complying? And somewhere in between, tell us

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01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: what's going on. They're not complying, and it's it's not

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01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: a it's not a pretty picture. On Monday, UH Trump's

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01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 1: senior advisors had a package of proposals to declare for

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01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: the second time that Ivana is complying and that the

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01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,799
Speaker 1: agreement is in the national security interests in the United States,

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01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: both claims of which I'm a say are absolutely false,

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01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: but to sort of cover up that by implementing new

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01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:08,759
Speaker 1: sanctions against Iran. Now I've written about this. Ambassador Boltons

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01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: written about this three U S Senators UH, Cotton, Cruise,

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01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: and Purduo at a very persuasive letter on very blatant

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01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: areas where is violating the agreement, And nevertheless, the administration

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01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: decided to declare that it's in compliance. And the reason

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01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: is that Secretary Mattis, Secretary Tillerson, and and UH National

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01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: Security Adviser make Master, UH do not want to get

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01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: out of the agreement because they will anger the Europeans

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01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: and because they don't have an alternative. But I gotta

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01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: tell you that is not where the president is he

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01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: was not happy about this fred Why would they why

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01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: would they certify it given the circumstances. Is this just

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01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 1: buying more time to create the political room, the political

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01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: consensus necessary in order to finally say that Iran is

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01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: in non compliance and take action or you know what,

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01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:02,440
Speaker 1: what's the strategy involved here? Well, the foreign policy establishment

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01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: doesn't want to get out of this agreements. They never

1536
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 1: want to get out of agreements. And they're claiming that, look,

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01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: it's an international agreement. We've given our word. We can't

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01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: re implement sanctions. It will upset the Europeans. I questioned

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01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: whether this is a true multi ladder agreement. It was

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01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: really just between US and Iran. The other states joined later.

1541
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: We can impose meaningful new sanctions by banning nuclear and

1542
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: missile technology transfers um. But I think what we have

1543
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: to really look at is that this agreement is strongly

1544
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: opposed by the Gulf States and by Israel because it

1545
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: was imposed on them, they had no say in it.

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01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,759
Speaker 1: We should put together a new new anti Iran alliance

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01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: that looks at all the threats run poses and include

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01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 1: in the negotiations the Gulf States in Israel. You know,

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01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: when Clinton had a new group deal with North Korea, Japan,

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01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: and South Korea with a negotiating table. Why was Israel

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01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: not involved in this negotiation that affects its very existence.

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01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: One of concerns about this deal and for ever and listening,

1553
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: we're speaking to a Fred Flights, who senior vice president

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01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: at the Center for Security Policy. Fred, one of the

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01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: concerns that I've had is that Iranian compliance at this

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01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: stage in many ways is in their interest at least

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01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: with either egregious violations where they would give plenty of

1558
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: room for the US, and another to say, hold on

1559
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: a second, that's not really in their interests because the goodies,

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01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: the benefits are frontloaded for Iran. So it's it seems

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01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 1: to me like it's gonna be a while before we

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01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: get to a point where the Iranians even have much

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01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 1: of an incentive to violate the agreement in major ways.

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01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,440
Speaker 1: So is the is the game plan for the Trump administration?

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01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 1: You think to wait for that or what are they

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01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: going to do in the meantime? Well, I think the

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01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: violations are pretty significant. Iran is not letting the IDEA

1568
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: inspect military site. It's a major violation. That's where nuclear

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01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 1: weapons work is taking place. If it's occurring, it's produced

1570
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: too much having water, it's produced too much enriched uranium.

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01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 1: But even more significant, this agreement allows Iran to pursue

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01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: nuclear technologies. It can enrich Rani and Wilder deals. In effect,

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01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: it can build a and operate a heavywhere reactor, Welder

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01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: deals and effects. So it was moving towards a nuclear reactor,

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01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon, even if it fully complies. But but

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01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I mean. Compliance isn't even that

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01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: painful for Iron, That's right. So basically we can't certify.

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01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,719
Speaker 1: This is in the national security interests in the United States.

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01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: There is a policy review underway, and I've talked with

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01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: a number of people, including Ambassador John Bolton. We don't

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01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: think the prison is going to certify again. I think

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01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: you did at this time very reluctantly. But frankly, people

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01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: are you and me and others. We need to keep

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01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 1: the pressure up. What do you think, by the way,

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01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:51,480
Speaker 1: will happen if the next time that it's up for certification,

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01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: if if its certification is denied by the administration, what

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01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: goes on then? So if everyone listening, if everyone wants

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01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 1: to know, okay, so what would happen. Tell us, well,

1589
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean supporters of the bill are saying, well, a

1590
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: ron's behavior will get worse. Europe will be mad at

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01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: this round's behavior already got where since there was enough. Basically,

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01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: a round's behavior will get even worse. Is that the

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01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: standard that we should be judging why we should stay

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01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: in the agreement? Europe beaves, of course they will. But

1595
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 1: I think we would have to send Tillison and other

1596
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: people to Europe and to the Middle East and say, look,

1597
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: we're moving in another direction, a better direction that also

1598
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 1: looks at missiles and sponsorship of terror, meddling, the regional disputes,

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01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 1: and this other agreement simply is Nolan Boyd. And on

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Speaker 1: the issue of Afghanistan, by the way, that's another place

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01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 1: where there's been a security review that's been talked about.

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01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 1: It is underway. Fred I, I have major concerns. That's

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01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 1: an It's an issue that I've been following and worked

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01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 1: on back in the day. I've been looking at it

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01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 1: very closely for years and years. I know that there's

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01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be a new strategy and no one could

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01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: be that. There's no one that can think of who's

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01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 1: a better place to come up with a new approach

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01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: than General Maddis. But I'm not sure there is a

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01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: strategy that will change things in Afghanistan. I want to

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01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: know what your take is. When we look at Afghanistan

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01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 1: and Syria and North Korea, there are major disasters that

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01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: are hard to solve because the Bo administration was so

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01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: incredibly incompetent. And I think this is really true in Afghanistan. Unfortunately,

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01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: he didn't pull out all the troops because his military

1616
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 1: advice said, you know what happened in Iraq when you

1617
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 1: did that. But the situation Afghanistan has seriously to t

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01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 1: and ISIS has has a foothold in the stations, spectacular

1619
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: terrorist attacks. I don't know the solution there. There is

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01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: talk that you might send him contractors to aff like

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01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 1: the war and the chief I don't. I don't have

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01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 1: the credentials to assess mother that's a good idea or not.

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01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how the Afghans will respond to that.

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01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: And I'm with you, I don't know what the strategy

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01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: is going to be. Yeah, because I've I've heard what

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01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 1: the supposedly new versions are are supposed to be, and

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01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: I've been around this game long enough to know that

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01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: those were the same solutions and idea is from UH

1629
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: years ago, many years ago in some cases, maybe even

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01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: a decade ago, depending on what specifically we're talking about.

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01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: One more for you, Fred, before we let you go.

1632
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: North Korea getting a lot of attention the early months

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01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 1: of this administration. Another place you mentioned a disaster because

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01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: in part of the UH inertia, if we want to

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01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 1: be kind, I guess of the obamaministration strategic patients, which

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01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 1: is a fancy way of saying not doing very much

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01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: and not having any new ideas what should be done

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01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: with North Korea? Given the continued the hostile acts of

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01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,759
Speaker 1: missile testing and saying they're going to, you know, engulf

1640
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: us all in a big wave of fire. I think

1641
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 1: when nations threatened to attack you with nuclear weapons and

1642
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: they have an aggressive and rapidly growing nuclear missile UH program,

1643
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: you should take it seriously. I'm worried we're in the stent.

1644
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: You need to take aggressive action now. You need to

1645
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: implement the kind of sanctions China has been vitolins a year,

1646
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: such as stopping what create ships that see UH hutting

1647
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 1: off all access to finance. You need to do these

1648
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 1: outside of you. When I put together another alliance, something

1649
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: called the Proliferation Security Initiative will already exists. It could

1650
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 1: be used to do this. We should be shooting down

1651
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: North Korean missiles that leave North Krean territory, increase out

1652
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 1: our nuclear presence in the region as well as missile

1653
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 1: defenses make China support of North Korea painful, so it

1654
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: has an incentive to twist North Korea's arm. I don't

1655
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: like the idea of attack in North Crea. I hope

1656
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 1: it's never necessary, but there's a lot we can do

1657
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 1: to twist the arms of both North Korea and China.

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01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 1: Fred Flights is a senior vice president at the Center

1659
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: for Security Policy. Former CEI analysts like me. Great to

1660
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: have you on, Fred. Where should people go to read

1661
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 1: your latest uh? Please please go to our website secure

1662
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 1: freedom dot org and be my piece there and other

1663
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: materials by the Center for Security Policy. Fred, thanks so much.

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01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: Great to have you come back soon. Good to be here. Team.

1665
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna be joined by our buddy Matt Walsh in

1666
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 1: just a few minutes. He's gonna talk to us about

1667
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 1: things you gotta do to be a man. Matt Walsh style.

1668
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I like it. And also we'll talk about a story

1669
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Speaker 1: from Saudi Arabia that the press hasn't been spending much

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Speaker 1: time on. That and more coming up. Buck is back, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Bucks back. It's more of America. Now throw in your

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Speaker 1: two cents one eight four four nine hundred buck that's

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Speaker 1: one eight four four d to eight to five. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: We've got Matt Walsh on the line now. He is

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Speaker 1: the author of The Unholy Trinity, Blocking the Left's assault

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01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: on life, marriage, and gender. He's also an author at

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Speaker 1: The Blaze. You can read his latest at the Blaze

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Speaker 1: dot com. Mr Walsh, good to have you back. Thanks

1679
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Speaker 1: for having a book. So Mat, before I get into

1680
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: a two of your pieces, you're somebody who doesn't shy

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01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 1: away from being critical of of either Trump or the GOP.

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Speaker 1: What do you take from the healthcare mess? Just what's

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Speaker 1: your what's your thirty foot view of this whole debacle?

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Speaker 1: Boll It's I think it's you know. The way I

1685
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 1: put it on Twitter today is we have at this

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01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: point we have to choose. There's no Republican party that

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01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 1: doesn't the Republican Party doesn't exist. We have there, we

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01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 1: have the Democrat Party of twenty seventeen, and we have

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party of like two thousand five. Those are

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01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 1: the which is now the Republican Party. Uh, those are

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01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 1: that's that's that's what we have because it's it's it's

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01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 1: very apparent to me that you know, after promising for

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Speaker 1: seven years that they're going to give rid of Obamacare,

1694
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. Obviously, it's not going to happen. Um

1695
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,640
Speaker 1: and just like so many other of their supposed to

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01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: objective and not gonna happen. So this is they own

1697
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,560
Speaker 1: this now they own Obamacare. It's not Obamacare anymore, it's gopcare.

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01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 1: This is this is theirs, this is their thing. And

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01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 1: uh and so this is what we live ineen. We

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01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 1: live in a in a in a country where this

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01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: was a conservative party now owns uh, you know, universal

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01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 1: healthcare as well as by the way, not not that

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01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: anyone really cares about this apparently, but they also own

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01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 1: funding plant parents, which they've decided to continue doing although

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01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 1: they can stop so among many other things. This is

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01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: uh yeah, but what's there I forget Now, what's the

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01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: excuse for why they had to fund planned parenthood? Is

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01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 1: it just lack lack of fortitude. I mean, why are

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01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: they not, Why are they not with drunk funding? They

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01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: said they would with Obamacare. They say it's reconciliation. I'm sorry,

1711
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 1: managed you know that they have some procedural issue. What's

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01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: the problem with plant plant paranod defunding? For the most part,

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01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 1: their excuses, they haven't even given excuse. They haven't even

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01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,599
Speaker 1: bothered to give an excuse. They don't even talk about

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01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 1: they did put Now I know what the excuses going

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01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 1: with is that they put into the the the health

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01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 1: care bill that was just that just went on in flames.

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01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 1: They put in an amendment that would have partially defunded

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01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 1: Planned Parenthood for twelve months. And so that was their

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01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 1: biggest hint was to put was to put in this

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01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 1: partial temporary the funding Plant Parent attached to it doomed bill,

1722
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: and it was amendment that probably would have not survived anyway.

1723
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 1: But that's what they're gonna say, is that, well, we

1724
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 1: tried and we can't. But so that's it, that's all

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01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 1: there is. And so they going to continue to fun

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01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: Plan Parents, which, by the way, you know, Plan Parent

1727
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 1: has been fun for forty years now and there have

1728
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 1: been other Republican governments that have decided to fund it,

1729
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 1: so that it's just been keeping with what they've always done. Yeah,

1730
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 1: they say that they are pro life, but then they

1731
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 1: don't defund planned parent whood. They say that they're going

1732
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 1: in at least for the last seven years or so,

1733
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: that they would defund Obamacare and or sorry, repeal Obamacare,

1734
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: and that well they still could do it. Is there

1735
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 1: any way, Matt, you think that maybe because there's been

1736
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 1: such a uh and obvious and really jaw dropping failure

1737
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: on the part of the GOP to follow up on

1738
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,440
Speaker 1: that promise, that that maybe there will be some accountability

1739
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,600
Speaker 1: now that that that essentially this is just this is

1740
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 1: too much, This has gone too far. They sorry, we're

1741
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 1: not actually going to repeal Americans are annoyed by this?

1742
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 1: Or no, you think we'll get past it. I think,

1743
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 1: you know, I've been thinking that, I've been We've been

1744
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:53,600
Speaker 1: all been saying that to each other for years and

1745
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: years and years. Every time as well, well, this time

1746
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: they're really gonna pay this time, this time isn't. But

1747
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: then every time the elections come up, we always say, well, yeah,

1748
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: but you know, if we hold them accountable, and then

1749
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 1: the Democrats in charge of let's just let's just let's

1750
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: just get through the mid terms and then we'll hold

1751
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 1: them accountable. And the mid terms comment, okay, let's just

1752
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 1: get to the general then we'll at them accountable, and

1753
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:12,679
Speaker 1: on and on and on. This is in the process.

1754
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: It's going to continue this way. There's no reason to

1755
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: think it will change. Because one thing we have to

1756
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: keep in mind is that, you know, as the I

1757
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,719
Speaker 1: say that the Republican Party of twenty seven, twenty seventeen

1758
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: is like a Democrat party of two toub and five,

1759
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: and that's true, but also the so called conservative movement

1760
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: of seventeen strikes me as pretty similar to the you know,

1761
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 1: the liberal movement of of a decade or a decade

1762
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 1: and a half ago. So as the Republican Party goes

1763
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 1: further to the left, conservatives in general are kind of

1764
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: going further till after which is why you have some

1765
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 1: conservatives who for for years have been saying to get

1766
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 1: rid of Obamacare, and now they say, well, we can't

1767
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 1: really do that. We've gotta have some we've got to

1768
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 1: have some replacement in place. So this is not happening

1769
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 1: in the vacuum, is what I'm saying um. And that's

1770
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,440
Speaker 1: part of the reason why the Republicans aren't held accountable

1771
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 1: is because even a lot of the so called conservatives

1772
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: don't care that much about these issue and so that's

1773
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 1: why this is all playing out that way. We're speaking

1774
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 1: to Matt Walsh. She's the author of The Unholy Trinity,

1775
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: Blocking the Left's Assault on Life, marriage, and Gender, which

1776
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 1: you can all pick up on Amazon dot com. He's

1777
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: also an author at the Matt Walsh Blog. Matt, tell

1778
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: me about your piece Five Things Every Guy Must Do

1779
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: in order to Become a Man? Yeah, yeah, that's a

1780
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 1: podcast of it last week. And this is, uh, you know,

1781
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 1: it's just it's just one of these things. Were here

1782
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: all the time from from well women and men complain

1783
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 1: that it's hard. You know, well women, women, especially single women,

1784
01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 1: will say, and you can't find a man who's actually

1785
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 1: a man, who's competent, who's mature. And I'm and I

1786
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,440
Speaker 1: believe that that's true. And I'm very I'm very sympathetic

1787
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 1: to single people these days. I'm so glad I'm not

1788
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 1: saying anywhere I have to deal with this. I could

1789
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,839
Speaker 1: not be any happier about that. So I just tried

1790
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 1: to come up with just a few things that if

1791
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: you're if you're a woman and and uh, you know

1792
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,600
Speaker 1: you're you're looking to find a man, and might you

1793
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,160
Speaker 1: want to get serious with and you might want to

1794
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 1: marry it. Just these things you could kind of look

1795
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: back at his past and see has he done this?

1796
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: Is he doing this? And if he's not, then you

1797
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 1: should kind of probably steer clear and be wary of that.

1798
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:13,600
Speaker 1: And these are really basic things that of course is

1799
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:15,839
Speaker 1: still upsets people when you bring it up, but basic

1800
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: things like let's hear them. Yeah, Like, um, if you're

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01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 1: a grown man, you should have paid some bills in

1802
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 1: your life. You should be paying all your own bills. Uh,

1803
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 1: if you're a grown man, you know, you should have

1804
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 1: developed some interests outside of watching TV and playing video games.

1805
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that men can never play video games,

1806
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 1: although I don't I'm not personally a fan. But you

1807
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: have these men that they're only interests in life or

1808
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:41,959
Speaker 1: video games, superheroes. It's like their interests have not evolved

1809
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 1: at all since they were eight years old. They have

1810
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: not changed at all. And that's a problem, you know,

1811
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a hint that's a indication of

1812
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 1: the lack of maturity. And I think a big one

1813
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 1: also is most men. In most cases, I think, you know,

1814
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 1: you've got to at some point move out on your

1815
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: own and live by yourself for a while. I'm not

1816
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 1: talking about any dorm room or roommates in the college setting,

1817
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 1: but I think in modern society is important for men

1818
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: to live on their own for a little while, develop

1819
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: some skills of survival. You know, let's figure out how

1820
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 1: to take care of themselves so that then they can

1821
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 1: get married and take care of a family. And I

1822
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 1: think we have a lot of men who have never

1823
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 1: developed that skill, and they get married and they don't

1824
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 1: know how to take care of their families because of

1825
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,200
Speaker 1: all kinds of problems. So these are just I think

1826
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,799
Speaker 1: these are really basic things. But but of course they're considered.

1827
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,639
Speaker 1: Was there pushed back to this to this podcast where

1828
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 1: people saying, how how dare you suggest that to be

1829
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,799
Speaker 1: a man you should have had a job, paid bills

1830
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 1: and not just play video games? Yeah, oh yeah, of course, yes,

1831
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:40,680
Speaker 1: of course. And and the thing as well, you know

1832
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: you're being judgmental. You don't understand how hard it is,

1833
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 1: and why shouldn't I just live on my parents until

1834
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 1: the twenty seven it's the most financially responsible thing, and

1835
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,719
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. People are just grappling for

1836
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 1: for excuses because they don't want to, you know, they

1837
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,559
Speaker 1: don't want to take charge of their life. And this

1838
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: is why we have to, you know. And one excuse

1839
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 1: I like is people say, well, you know, back in

1840
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 1: the back, in the old, back in the eighteen hundreds, Uh,

1841
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, you would stay at home with your parents

1842
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: until the day that you got buried and you would

1843
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 1: move out. And yeah, that's true, except that you are

1844
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 1: home with your parents, working on a farm, getting up

1845
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: at five am to melt the cows and you know,

1846
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 1: go out and plow the field. So you weren't You

1847
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 1: weren't just at home watching TV. You were you were

1848
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:23,560
Speaker 1: on a you were on a homestead, contributing to the

1849
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: family operations. You weren't trying to get the high score

1850
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: on Mortal Kombat five or whatever. Yeah, it's different, right

1851
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:30,560
Speaker 1: if so, if that's if that's what you're doing in

1852
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, you're working on the homesteads, and great, stay home,

1853
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 1: that's fine. But most of us aren't doing that. So

1854
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 1: we have to force this on ourselves, were to force

1855
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: ourselves to go out and cut them biblical cord and

1856
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 1: develop some skills because we're not going to do it

1857
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: at home. And uh, I know that that's just you know,

1858
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 1: it's it's obviously if you could just stay home and

1859
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 1: play video games. I guess you don't really want to

1860
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: hear anyone tell you otherwise. Matt Walsh everybody author at

1861
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,879
Speaker 1: the Blaze. Check out his book The Unholy Trinity Blocking

1862
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: the Left Assault on Life, Marriage and Gender, which is

1863
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 1: officially endorsed by my mom, Mrs Sexton. She is a fan.

1864
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 1: So there you have it. Matt Walsh, thank you, thanks

1865
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 1: for joining me and good to have you on for sure.

1866
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, uh SO team. We are going to talk

1867
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 1: about Saudi Arabia coming up here in a few moments.

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Speaker 1: But also, if you don't mine, I may take just

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1876
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Speaker 1: I do appreciate when people send me their own designs

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Speaker 1: for it, although for me to actually print T shirts

1878
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Speaker 1: with them, I would need like a release and there's

1879
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Speaker 1: a whole legal process. But we are working on a

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Speaker 1: Shields High design for the T shirt, so that would

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Speaker 1: be coming to UM. But the story at the Saudi

1882
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 1: Arabia is interesting. I'll talk to you about that on

1883
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: the flip side of the break Team stay with me, Well, Team,

1884
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: I got the conclusion of a story that I didn't

1885
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 1: get to tell you about when at First broke UM.

1886
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 1: It's not a major international news story, but I do

1887
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: think it's indicative of some of the biggest problems we

1888
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 1: see in the Middle Eastern and in the broader Muslim world.

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Speaker 1: The Saudi authorities in Saudi Arabia, they had arrested a

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Speaker 1: woman who appeared in a video get Ready for It,

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Speaker 1: get Ready for It, wearing a skirt that went above

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Speaker 1: the knee and a halter top. She was walking through

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Speaker 1: a historic neighborhood in Saudi Arabia in Najat Province, and

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Speaker 1: she was arrested. Now, she wasn't caught in this terrible

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Speaker 1: act of wearing a skirt. I mean it's like a

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen degrees in riodd, right, I mean, is

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Speaker 1: not exactly a place where you want to be forced

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Speaker 1: to wear. And a bio, which is what the Saudi

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Speaker 1: women are forced to wear, which is a black covering

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Speaker 1: from head to toe, doesn't cover the face entirely, but

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Speaker 1: has to cover the head and the and has to

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Speaker 1: cover the hair. So she was wearing a skirt, and

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Speaker 1: she was a you know, a woman of of nice appearance.

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Speaker 1: A former headmaster of mine when he used to refer

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Speaker 1: to attractive and attractive lady, would refer to her as

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Speaker 1: just I think fortunate or genetically fortunate, something like that.

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Speaker 1: She's an attractive young woman. Uh. And she appears in

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Speaker 1: this video and they arrested her. And now this is

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Speaker 1: one once again one of these moments where, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Saudis are our allies in the war on terror kind of,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the government's an ally. But there's also been

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Speaker 1: a lot of very bad stuff that has come from

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Speaker 1: Saudi money, the export of wahabi Islam, which they don't like.

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Speaker 1: They prefer to be called Salafist. I kind of like

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Speaker 1: to call it wahabi because denigrating a a strict form

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Speaker 1: of Islamic interpretation and the implementation of Sharia law is

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Speaker 1: something that I think I would encourage, right, shouldn't we

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Speaker 1: all encourage that? Don't we want moderate Islam and therefore

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Speaker 1: extremist Islam, hard line Islam should be worthy of criticism

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Speaker 1: and even mockery. But they call it to Ahabism because

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Speaker 1: of the nineteenth century preacher, even even Eiben Abdulawahab even

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Speaker 1: just mean son of I mean, I forget exactly. The

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Speaker 1: guy had a really long name, Uh, and he made

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Speaker 1: an agreement with the tribe the warlord that would become

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Speaker 1: the Saudi royal family. And so there's been this unholy

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Speaker 1: but I guess technically very holy alliance sinse that it's

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Speaker 1: a religious alliance, right, but an alliance that has led

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Speaker 1: to much trouble for the world between the Saudi Kingdom,

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Speaker 1: the king, the monarchy of Saudi Arabia, Uh, the House

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Speaker 1: of Sad and this Wahabist theocracy. And that's how you

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Speaker 1: get into the twenty one century. Here we are twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen and a woman is wearing Remember she wasn't even

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Speaker 1: caught by the religious police, by the Matawa's. She was

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Speaker 1: just strolling around on a video and it got some

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Speaker 1: attention online because of the part of well because she's

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Speaker 1: in Saudi uh, and they they had arrested arrested her

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Speaker 1: for this. Uh. This set off quite a debate. Isn't

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Speaker 1: it fastening by the way, that there are people in

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Speaker 1: Saudi who would defend the arrest of a woman for this. Right.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't it some holy site. This wasn't She wasn't

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Speaker 1: in the speaker of the House lobby in Congress. Right,

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Speaker 1: she was just walking around outside in the desert because

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Speaker 1: Saudi is a giant desert and it's really hot. Were

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Speaker 1: at a skirt and a crop top, and the Saudi

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Speaker 1: society freaked out. So, you know, you've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of feminists in this country that will focus on the

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Speaker 1: mythological wage gap, or at least the the myths behind it. Right,

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Speaker 1: it's not the result of sexism, it's not the result

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Speaker 1: of destroying women's equality. It's there are other reasons for

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Speaker 1: the so called wage gap, but no one wants to

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Speaker 1: hear about them because it's more fun to just pretend

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Speaker 1: that the patriarchy is holding down the advancement of women

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Speaker 1: in this country, but they are surprisingly the left in

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Speaker 1: this country. The most vocal feminists that are in American

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Speaker 1: society are noticeably silent on the issue of Muslim Muslim

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Speaker 1: treatment of women, women's rights in the Muslim world, and

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Speaker 1: well oppression of women, a true oppression of women, the

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Speaker 1: Muslim word lets. You know, in Saudi women can drive cars.

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Speaker 1: They need permission from male relatives to do any number

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Speaker 1: of things. If you're seen with someone who's a male

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Speaker 1: in public who's not a relative, you can get into

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Speaker 1: trouble there. There's some pushback on this. The religious police

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Speaker 1: now don't have the authority to immediately detain. Used to

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Speaker 1: be the case until a year ago in Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 1: you could be detained by the by the mutawas themselves,

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Speaker 1: by the religious police, and they would cane people for

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, having a beer in public,

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Speaker 1: or ladies that we're wearing a skirt, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: Now they have to just now they're kind of like

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Speaker 1: a neighborhood watch team. They have to refer to the

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Speaker 1: police and then the police come on scene and they

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Speaker 1: can take action or not. So I mean Saudis, you

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Speaker 1: could say it's crawling very slowly across the desert and

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Speaker 1: the right into the right direction. Here, it's moving very

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Speaker 1: slowly into the twenty one. No, I shouldn't say it's

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Speaker 1: moving very slowly into the mid late nineteenth century maybe,

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Speaker 1: but we'll we'll keep an eye on this one. This

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Speaker 1: is our ally, the Saudis, who, by the way, Saudi

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Speaker 1: money is involved in enormous thanking and media properties in

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Speaker 1: this country. Saudi influence is not something to be ignored

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Speaker 1: in our own politics. But perhaps that's a discussion for

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Speaker 1: another day. But this woman has been released. The lady

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Speaker 1: in the skirt as not going to face any further

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Speaker 1: consequences despite the dust up in Saudi Arabia over this one.

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Speaker 1: So good news, I guess on that front, although it

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Speaker 1: does remind us all of what a regressive and bizarre

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Speaker 1: place the Saudi Kingdom still is, and that this exists

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Speaker 1: in the heartland of Islam. You know, this is the

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Speaker 1: equivalent member Saudi Arabia the cities of Mecca and Medina.

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Speaker 1: This is the equivalent in at least the Catholic face

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Speaker 1: of faith of the Vatican and and Rome or or Jerusalem,

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Speaker 1: and the origins of the faceman depends on how you

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Speaker 1: want to frame it. But it's an important place, right,

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia is an important place for Islam. Mecca and

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Speaker 1: Medina are there, and yet it is a very regressive

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Speaker 1: and brutal and unfair and despotic place. What does that?

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Speaker 1: Are we allowed to make any draw any conclusions from that?

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Speaker 1: Are we allowed to have any any thoughts on that

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Speaker 1: beyond just well, you know, they do things their way,

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Speaker 1: uh I have Uh Well, We'll do more of a

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Speaker 1: deep dive on Saudi another day, but for now, just

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Speaker 1: just take note of the fact that media here is

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Speaker 1: kind of like, may you know, so she got arrested

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Speaker 1: because she was wearing a skirt. You know, the Saudis,

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Speaker 1: they got their thing. Meanwhile, you'll still have like Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: the dollar or whatever, and everyone's supposed to be outrage

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