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Speaker 4: We've had a lot to talk about John Solomon's when

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Speaker 5: What we do know is that two eye witnesses of

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Speaker 5: these conversations were told that he was turned down, something

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Speaker 5: that by the way, Wiss is not denying. He's not

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Speaker 5: denying that that happen. He said, that's the normal process.

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Speaker 5: Here's the big thing. There was a statute of limitations

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Speaker 5: that was allowed to expire. That it is not another

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Speaker 5: fact that's no longer in dispute from the legal defense

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Speaker 5: team or others. Why would the statute limit of limitations

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Speaker 5: be allowed to aspire if why still had the power

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Speaker 5: to bring the charges. These are all questions that Congress

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Speaker 5: are going to have to get. Multiple witness has been

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Speaker 5: down on, but people under oath as certainly under a

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Speaker 5: transcribed interview where there's a penalty of lying to Congress

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Speaker 5: and try to get these facts. I am told from

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Speaker 5: senior Justice Department officials there is an extensive body of

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Speaker 5: written documents, emails, and other things that could illuminate what

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Speaker 5: happened here now right now, this attorney's officer saying, Hey,

455
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Speaker 5: still an ongoing pro I can't share anything. Of course,

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Speaker 5: that wasn't always the case in the Russia coclusion. They

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Speaker 5: had no problem sharing things in lifetime in the Russia

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Speaker 5: collusion case. But I do believe there's going to be paper,

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Speaker 5: contemporarious paper that will answer a lot of these questions.

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Speaker 5: Thus far, most of the people I talked to tell

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Speaker 5: me that Gary Shapley's testimony matches what they do as

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Speaker 5: participants or observers of what was going on in the

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Speaker 5: wife's investigation.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting, Jordan, because and John knows this, we

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Speaker 4: were involved that we ran the defense of the president

466
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Speaker 4: President Trump on the malaprobe, we ran the impeachment attempt

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Speaker 4: on Ukraine representing the former president. So our distrust of

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Speaker 4: these institutions is high. But Merrick Cartland was so clear

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Speaker 4: in his statement, Oh and then you've got all these

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Speaker 4: other witnesses, John saying somebody's not telling the truth here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I interesting to point out to John point this out.

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Speaker 2: I do want to say it again to folks that

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Speaker 2: in the letter that he references to Jim Jordan, that

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Speaker 2: was an earlier letter from Jude, he doesn't talk about that.

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Speaker 2: He could have gotten special council status, right, because supposedly

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Speaker 2: he was denied that. Yes, he talks about special attorney

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Speaker 2: status in these if these US attorneys wouldn't cooperate with him,

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Speaker 2: and of course that that brings up by the time

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Speaker 2: they made those decisions. Was there a statute of limitations

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Speaker 2: issue anyways? But he does not get into the special council.

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Speaker 3: Issue, right, and hest denied it reportedly, So that's.

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Speaker 4: Another question we should so, John, if your sources indicated that,

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Speaker 4: in fact, Weiss was denied special council statu And I'm

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Speaker 4: no fan of special counsels, as you know, but was

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Speaker 4: he denied that status?

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Speaker 5: Well, my sources tell me is that they are certain

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Speaker 5: that he that Weiss made the comment in the room.

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Speaker 5: They're not saying whether that request actually occurred, but they

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Speaker 5: are saying that Weiss made that comment. I'm not the

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Speaker 5: only person to have that reporting. I think the New

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Speaker 5: York Times also said that it matched that reporting. I

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Speaker 5: want to point out a couple of important words in letters,

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Speaker 5: because sometimes in a life letter there's just a couple

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Speaker 5: of phrases that are put there to a signal where

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Speaker 5: this might be going. In his letter, David Weiss wrote

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Speaker 5: that he was geographically limited and where he could file charges.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't say that geographically limited. That's consistent with what

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Speaker 5: Gary Shapley said. Go take a look at that set.

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Speaker 5: That's a very important sentence. Here's the second thing. When

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Speaker 5: he came back with his second letter, he said he

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Speaker 5: wanted to expand his story from where he was in

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Speaker 5: the first that I wished to expand on what I meant.

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Speaker 5: He says, as the US Attorney for district, my charging

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Speaker 5: authority is geographically limited to my home district. If venue

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Speaker 5: for a case lies elsewhere, common departmental practice is to

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Speaker 5: contact the US Attorney's office for the district and question

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Speaker 5: and determine whether it wants to partner on the case.

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Speaker 5: If not, I may request special attorney status from the

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Speaker 5: Attorney General pursuant to twenty eight USC. Fifteen. And then

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Speaker 5: he doesn't say anything further.

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Speaker 4: Right, you're reporting from your sources that he did request

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Speaker 4: that special status and was denied it, or did he

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Speaker 4: ever request it.

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Speaker 5: Might I have not been able to get confirmation that

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Speaker 5: David Weiss made that request to the Attorney General Merrick Garland.

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Speaker 5: As you know, Merrick Garland's a judge. He's very careful.

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Speaker 5: It'd be very unusual for him to have turned down

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Speaker 5: a special council request and then make the statement that

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Speaker 5: he's made. My sources do confirm that in a meeting,

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Speaker 5: David Weiss made that comment that he had asked for.

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Speaker 5: So that all I can get pinned down is that

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Speaker 5: he made the statement in this room with other people,

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Speaker 5: but not whether the actual request was made. There could

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Speaker 5: be a lot of different reasons for that, but I've

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Speaker 5: had difficulty going from he said it in the room

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Speaker 5: to it actually happened, meaning that he actually made the

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Speaker 5: request to Merrick Garland. That's the challenge I've been having

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Speaker 5: over the last few days. I just simply can't get

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Speaker 5: an answer to that nailed down.

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Speaker 3: So what's interesting is for people to understand it.

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Speaker 4: So the way it works is this that a US

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Speaker 4: Attorney for Delaware has authority in Delaware, but if he's

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Speaker 4: going to bring in a case, let's say, in the

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Speaker 4: Central District of California, he has to go to the

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Speaker 4: US Attorney for the Central District California and get consent

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Speaker 4: or he can get the special status Jordan that you

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Speaker 4: were talking about. When it's not clear because John's reporting.

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Speaker 4: It's not clear where that goes. But this idea that

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Speaker 4: he had unfettered access and to do whatever he want,

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Speaker 4: that was totally bogus. He never had that authority because

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Speaker 4: Mark Cartland should have never said that.

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Speaker 2: I think what John's pointing on we need to understand

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Speaker 2: is he never had the ability to just do what

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Speaker 2: he wanted to do. He had to keep asking people,

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Speaker 2: had to go through the noorable process, and we had

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Speaker 2: that process. They acted like he didn't have to go

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Speaker 2: through a doable process. The way they said is basically,

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Speaker 2: he's a cart launch, he'll get it. We're hands off.

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Speaker 2: We're hands off, We're not going to make any decisions

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Speaker 2: on here. He's saying they would have.

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Speaker 3: To make decisions. So it is putting the attorney Gital's

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Speaker 3: office in line for saying no, no, if I if

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Speaker 3: I had these issues, they had to make decisions on it,

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Speaker 3: I couldn't do it on my own.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be very interesting that John, what do

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Speaker 4: you think about the testimony of Weiss. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: it's tricky because there's an ongoing investigation. What's your sense

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Speaker 4: of that happening on Capitol Hill?

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Speaker 5: My guess is that this won't happen until the time

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Speaker 5: when the case is resolved, after which there's no real

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Speaker 5: recourse or danger to hundred Biden getting charged the second

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Speaker 5: time or otherwise. But I don't think he'll be able

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Speaker 5: to cooperate. He's very clear at his letter he just

565
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Speaker 5: simply can't talk now, and that all they can do

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Speaker 5: is set it process together for the point when the

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Speaker 5: case is closed, then he can talk to Congress. He

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty confident after the case has resolved, meaning Hunter

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Speaker 5: Biden's plea is accepted and he's headed towards sentencing, that

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Speaker 5: there'll be some transmission of evidence, because the Justice Department

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Speaker 5: now has created a pattern of that with the Trump

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Speaker 5: cases and other cases before, so it's there. It really

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Speaker 5: comes down to what happens in the July twenty sixth

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Speaker 5: hearing with Hunter Biden. Will the judge accept the plea

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Speaker 5: and the charges. That will be a big moment. If

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Speaker 5: it does, one could argue the case is closed and

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Speaker 5: then the process of discovery for Congress to be opened up.

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Speaker 5: So he does signal this. I want to go back

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Speaker 5: to one letter, though, I want to because I do

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Speaker 5: think it really goes to the question of Merrick Garland

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Speaker 5: and the comments he made. I just want to read

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Speaker 5: this sentence one more time from David Weiss's letter. My

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Speaker 5: charging authority is geographically limited to my home district. That's

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Speaker 5: exactly what Jerry Shapley said, weissing the agents. He himself

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Speaker 5: acknowledges that this corroborates at least the part of Shapley's story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think no, I think that's right. I mean,

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Speaker 4: David Weiss has so explaining to do. Yes, I'm not

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Speaker 4: and I'm not accusing David.

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Speaker 3: It's a letter. Didn't answer the question a lawyer.

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Speaker 4: I think Hert Gartlett has some explaining to do, honestly,

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Speaker 4: because he acted like he acted like Merrick Gartland, acted

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Speaker 4: like David Weiss was Bob Muller and could do whatever

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Speaker 4: he wants, which the truth was Bob Muller could never

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Speaker 4: do whatever he wanted because he didn't have the authority

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Speaker 4: to He was an independent He was not an independent counsel.

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Speaker 4: So I mean some of this is, you know, they

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Speaker 4: talk at both sides of their mouth. It's a very

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Speaker 4: bureaucratic operation, the United States Department of Justice, and Jordan

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Speaker 4: and I know it because we litigated him. For four years,

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Speaker 4: pretty much full time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that was it? So all right? John, We

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Speaker 3: appreciate it. Thanks for the update. Anything new on the

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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden plea or is that going to go pretty

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Speaker 3: much as planned?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's not track for the end of

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Speaker 5: this month, and I think it will resolve all issues.

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Speaker 5: I think what I'm hearing from both sides is that

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Speaker 5: the plea deal will make HEO. Now, He's the unusual.

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Speaker 5: The plea deal has not yet been filed in court.

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Speaker 5: Usually when the criminal information is filed, you see a

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Speaker 5: plea deal fould that day or very soon after. So

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Speaker 5: we haven't seen the language, but sources are telling me

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Speaker 5: it will resolve all criminal questions for the present time.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks John, just the news. John Salmon, good friend of ours.

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Speaker 4: Thrill that he's on the broadcast. Hey, folks, check us

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Speaker 4: out ACLJ dot R coming up, Senator Marshall Blackburn. Go

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Speaker 4: to ACLJ dot org to find out about the work

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Speaker 4: of the American Center for Law and Justice. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 4: welcome back to the Sean Hanny Show. Jay and Jordan

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Speaker 4: Seculo in for Sean Hannity. We just had on our

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Speaker 4: friend John Solomon. We got a lot more head. I

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Speaker 4: want to talk about this thing though, with the Department

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Speaker 4: of Justice, with Merrett Gartland, with Weiss, the US Attorney

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Speaker 4: for Delaware that was investigating Hunter. You know there are

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Speaker 4: two lawyers sitting on this radio set right now that

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Speaker 4: know the Department of Justice well, and that's me and

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Speaker 4: Jordan because we spent four years litigating with them representing

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Speaker 4: a president that was President Trump and we know what

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Speaker 4: goes on there. And one thing Jordan said during our

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Speaker 4: break here, and I think it's very important to peace.

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Speaker 4: You got to be scratching your head. He's thinking, who's

633
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Speaker 4: telling the truth, who's not telling truth? You got the

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Speaker 4: whistleblower saying, hey, the US attorney came and he told us,

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Speaker 4: I'm limited in my jurisdiction. I can't go anywhere. I

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Speaker 4: just you know, I can only go where I'm authorized

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Speaker 4: to go. Then you've got you know, others saying, oh, no,

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Speaker 4: he could have gone anywhere. It was turned down. But Jordan,

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Speaker 4: you said something that's very important. They both could be right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Bill Bibber. Other people are.

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Speaker 2: Saying, well, he had the power to go everywhere, and

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Speaker 2: they're assuming that he did want to go everywhere. So

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Speaker 2: he could have definitely told his staff if I go

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Speaker 2: anywhere else, I've got to get approval from the US

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Speaker 2: Attorney and then if they turned me down, I got

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Speaker 2: to go to the Attorney General.

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Speaker 3: So basically tell him.

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Speaker 2: So I don't have just carte blanche. But if he

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Speaker 2: never asked to go, both the whistleblowers correct that he

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Speaker 2: acknowledged that he didn't have the power, and David Weiss

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Speaker 2: that his letter could be correct. Now he might be

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Speaker 2: hiding the ball a little bit because he never goes

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Speaker 2: to the Special Council part. He only talks about the

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Speaker 2: Special Attorney status. So there might be some issues there

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Speaker 2: that we'd like to ask questions about.

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Speaker 3: But I do see.

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Speaker 2: Overall, Oh, I got one hundred questions. The whistleblower is

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Speaker 2: not necessarily a liar. David Weiss is not necessarily a liar.

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Speaker 2: At this point, there's certainly questions to ask. But there

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Speaker 2: is one way that they both could be telling the truth,

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Speaker 2: which is he acknowledged the power he had and the

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Speaker 2: whistleblower repeated that to Congress.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that could be what it is here now.

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Speaker 4: It's also if he didn't try to exercise that power.

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Speaker 4: So I mean that's exactly right. And like I said,

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Speaker 4: we spend our time doing this at the American Center

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Speaker 4: for Law and Justice at ACLJ dot org. And I

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Speaker 4: encourage you to go to our website and check us

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Speaker 4: out on all the social media apps as well as

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Speaker 4: well ACLJ dot org, and you can join the ACLJ.

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Speaker 3: You can help us continue to do these.

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Speaker 4: Fights in federal court joining the ACLJ, and any amount

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Speaker 4: you donate tax deductable, and we're getting a matching gift

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Speaker 4: at ACLJ dot org, so I encourage you to go there.

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Speaker 3: Senator Blackburn coming up