1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Don't tell me that, oh my gosh, this sport, everything 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: is going to play out exactly the way we think. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: It never plays out exactly the way we think. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Let's hit the inside scoop with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: It's presented by homage legends never Die wearing one of 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: their shirts. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk for kidding. Do you want to 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: ask him? What do you think about? 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 4: Okay? 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Are you okay with this mascot race that the Mets 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: are rolling out there? Because I don't get to comment 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: much on something that I actually feel like I have 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: a saying. 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: But I'm a fan. They're former players. This is fun. 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: I brought people to games that don't know a lick 16 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: about baseball and they like that part of it. 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 5: They do like that part. 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. I understand where 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: Todd is coming from. My favorite part of that whole 20 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: exchange was the haym and tweet about the subway finishing 21 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: last if you're from New York. I've lived in New 22 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: York for any stretch of time that and we know 23 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: the subway is not always going to finish last. But John, 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: that's that's his best tweet. 25 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: In a while. 26 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: I agree that one really hit home for me too, 27 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: Ken I lost a lot of weight sometimes down in 28 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: the summertime waiting for the subway. It's twenty five minutes late, 29 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: it's one hundred and five degrees down there, and you're 30 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: sweat and you're your body off. So anyway, okay, good, 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: glad to hear. Not to mention one more quick thing. 32 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: Fans do the wave at many ballparks, and I think 33 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: that's crazy. So if you think that's ridiculous, I love 34 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: the way. What's wrong with this? You go all day 35 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: on there? Anyway, let's get to biz. Let's start with 36 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: your article on cal Riley. What did you think of 37 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: this extension? For both him and for the Mariners side? 38 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Win win, And it's rare when you hear of an 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: extension that from the player's perspective is considered really good. 40 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: And yet the reaction I heard yesterday from the player's 41 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: sides and different people was this is a really strong 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: number for him. One five over six years. And as 43 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: I wrote in the article, in the three years, the 44 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: first three years which would have been the ARB years, 45 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: he's over where he would have would have been. And 46 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: in the free agent years, He's at pretty much record 47 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: levels for a catcher. So he did really well. And 48 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: from the Mariners' perspective, yes, it's a lot of money. 49 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: Yes they needed a win. They didn't do much at 50 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: all this offseason. He is a guy who is willing 51 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: to play there and wants to be there. He took 52 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: a no trade clause in this deal, and he also 53 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: is kind of the center of what they do. They 54 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: are built around their starting pitching in particular, they're pitching 55 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: in general, and this guy is everything you would want 56 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: as a catcher. He's a homegrown star. He plays all 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: the time, most games played as a catcher in the 58 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: last three years, most home runs as a catcher in 59 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: the last three years, and his defensive metrics are outstanding. 60 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: So from that perspective, that's why I say win win. 61 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: Ali Hunter Kirk's contract extension just came out the other day. 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 5: Both of these guys value. There's a lot of value. Obviously, 63 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: way more value for col Is in receiving. Have you 64 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 5: heard anything since these newly minted contracts came out that 65 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 5: teams would be like, I don't know that value is 66 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 5: going to go down when the ABS system comes in. 67 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 5: Even though there's still going to be able to you know, 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 5: it's not every pitch is challenged. 69 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: There is some question about whether catchers will be valued 70 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: quite the same way once ABS with a challenge system 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: is in place. Now, framing is still going to be important. 72 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: It might not be quite as important because, of course 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: you'll have the ability to challenge, but you can't challenge 74 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: every pitch. And as long as we're in a situation 75 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: where it's not full roboump right, where every pitch is 76 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: called by ABS, then framing will still be a skill 77 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: that is valued. But when I asked about this yesterday 78 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: relative to Raleigh, who was the second best framer in 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: baseball last year, the answer I got was, yeah, that's 80 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: part of it. 81 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 5: But Eric, I don't need to tell you. 82 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: Receiving, catching, blocking, throwing, preparation, game calling, all of these 83 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: things are part of what a catcher does, and varying 84 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: degrees are importance. So framing is not insignificant. We've learned 85 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: that over the years. But it's not the whole deal either. 86 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 5: Ken, do you feel like there's a chance they could 87 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 5: give him a sea on his chest. I don't know 88 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 5: if the Mariners have ever done that. He just feels 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 5: like that kind of guy. 90 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: He does. 91 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: Now, I did not ask about that. I have not 92 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: heard much talk about that, and I don't know what 93 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: the Mariner's history is with putting a see on a 94 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: player's chest, but he is that guy, and he certainly 95 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: is the center of what they do. A catcher, of course, Eric, 96 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: as you know, is often a leader, and he is that. 97 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: He also is kind of a model player in his work, 98 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: ethic and all of that. So if they were ever 99 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: going to do it, he would be someone who would 100 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: be certainly a candidate for that. 101 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 6: Moving forward, here, Cam Smith making the team. What a 102 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 6: really really cool thing they did down there for him 103 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 6: bringing the family in. I think that's really exciting. Talk 104 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 6: a little bit about that and what you look forward 105 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 6: to seeing out of him this year. 106 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: This is one of the most fascinating stories of the 107 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: season for me. This kid was drafted last year and 108 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: now they're asking him to play a new position in 109 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 1: the major leagues because they feel his bat is that good. 110 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: The other layer with Cam Smith is, of course, he 111 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: was the centerpiece of the Kyle Tucker trade, So Cubs 112 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: fans are already freaking out saying, why do you trade 113 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: this guy? He's breaking with the Astros this year. But 114 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: let's see how this plays out, because I'm a little 115 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: concerned that this is too much too soon, particularly on 116 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: the defensive end. And as you guys know, yes, there 117 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: are some players who are gifted enough basically to walk 118 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: right into the big leagues, and maybe cam Smith is 119 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: one of them, but the sport is so difficult that 120 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: it almost seems to me this is too quick. Now 121 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: we'll see, and I'm really excited to see him play. 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: He had an amazing spring. But while the story is 123 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: great and what happened yesterday was really cool, for people 124 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: who have not maybe seen that video, I would encourage 125 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: them to watch it. I just am a little concern 126 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: that again, too much too soon. 127 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 7: And Ken, speaking of concern, a little concern about Jordan Montgomery. 128 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 7: We know he's going to miss some time having the 129 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 7: TJ surgery again. What does his future look like now 130 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 7: he's thirty one years old. Is he going to have 131 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 7: anything left in the tank after two Tommy Johns. 132 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: It's always a question, Danny. Now, there have been pictures 133 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: in the last several years who have come back from 134 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: a second Tommy John. Spencer Stryder is doing it right now, 135 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: But it is something that is not easy. It is 136 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: not a guarantee by any stretch of the imagination. I 137 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: am sure that Jordan Montgomery, as competitive as he is, 138 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: does not want his career to be over, does not 139 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 1: even think like that right now. But yeah, it sets 140 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: him back. And of course the free agent contract he 141 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: signed with the Diamondbacks has proven to be nothing short 142 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: of a disaster. No, not that he intended that or 143 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: anyone intended that. It just kind of happened that way. 144 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: So we'll see where this goes. But he'll come back 145 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: when he does as a free agent, be free to 146 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: sign any team, with any team he wants, and we'll 147 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: see where it goes from there. 148 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 5: Am I wrong to think that it's weird that Joe 149 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 5: Polad still wants to be part of the ownership group 150 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 5: or part of the team after he's selling it. Or 151 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 5: is this something that you know, somebody kind of stays 152 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 5: on from the old regime, just in a smaller, smaller role. 153 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure exactly that that is his desire. 154 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: Now, we did say that in the story. 155 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: And certainly I would imagine if he could stay on 156 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: in some way, I'll do that, But I don't know 157 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: that he's. 158 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: Going to insist on it or anything like that. 159 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: So the big thing with the Twins story that I 160 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: published with Pretty Rooli and Dan Hayes yesterday is that 161 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: they have this debt four hundred and twenty five million 162 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: dollars plus in debt that factors into the sale process. 163 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: They want a number that is going to enable them 164 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: to take away a certain amount of money even with 165 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: the new owner assuming most or all of the debt. 166 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: They rejected or at least kind of snubbed evaluation of 167 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: one point five billion. We don't know if it was 168 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: an actual offer, how it exactly came around, but one 169 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: point five billion was in there and they said no. 170 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: Forbes comes out today with its franchise valuations and values 171 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: the Twins that wear one point five billion. So I 172 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: am sure that if you've got four hundred million dollars 173 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: in debt, you'd want the number to be as high 174 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: as possible so that ultimately your takeaway is as much 175 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: as it can be. And it's unclear where this is 176 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: going to go. Maybe a group steps up and gives 177 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: the Twins what they want, Maybe they settle for a 178 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: little bit less than they were seeking, or maybe they 179 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: don't sell the team right away. All of these possibilities 180 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: are in play. 181 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 5: All right, what's your favorite prediction for this year? Because 182 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 5: we know how much you love predictions and how no 183 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 5: fans ever come back and say, wow, Ken, you are 184 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 5: so right on that prediction. 185 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Eric, fans never say that because 186 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: my predictions inevitably suck. So it's not like I'm sitting 187 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: there waiting for fans to acknowledge my predictions as being 188 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: so great. I've got the Braves beating the Rangers in 189 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: the World Series. 190 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure that's wrong. 191 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not going to turn out that way. 192 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: But the beauty of this is that in baseball, we 193 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. It's my favorite thing 194 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: about the sport. And you could say, oh, the Dodgers 195 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: are a locked. The Dodgers aren't a lock. The Dodgers 196 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: the Great Mighty Dodgers, knocked out in the twenty twenty 197 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: two Division Series, knocked out in the twenty twenty three 198 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: Division Series, nearly knocked out in the twenty twenty four 199 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: Division Series. So don't tell me that, Oh my gosh, 200 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: this sport everything is going to play out exactly the 201 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: way we think. It never plays out exactly the way 202 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: we think. 203 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: That's good. 204 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: All right, let's finish with this ken favorite Opening Day 205 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,119 Speaker 2: memory or anything you're looking forward to with tomorrow. 206 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: My favorite memory, it's kind of a weird one, but 207 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, I'm covering the Baltimore Orioles. They lose 208 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: Opening Day to the Brewers, who are in the American League. 209 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: Then I believe the score was twelve nothing. It was 210 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: a comedy of errors. It was a nightmare of a 211 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: game for the Oriols. And it was at home at 212 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: Memorial Stadium. And I remember after the game going into 213 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: the clubhouse and hearing the usual when you hear or 214 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: when you see a team have a bad loss, just 215 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: one game, don't worry about it. We'll come back tomorrow. 216 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: It's just the way it is. We'll flush it all 217 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: the cliches. Well, guess what. It wasn't just one game. 218 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: They lost twenty one in a row to start the season. 219 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: So that's my memory. I can't get it out of 220 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: my head. 221 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: That is crazy. So if anyone loses, if anyone loses. 222 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 8: Twelve to nothing, tomorrow they're going on a twenty one 223 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 8: game streak to start. 224 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, I wouldn't say that, but every year 225 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: team starts off and five oh and six, and I'm like, 226 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: it's child's play. Get to fifteen, we'll start. 227 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 4: Talking twenty one boys. 228 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: Hey own twenty one with the team that Hey, Murray Cawcken, 229 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: Mike Bodiker not a Hall of Famer but a good 230 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: pitcher at the time, and Bill Ripkin. There was some 231 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: other really good players, And it was just one of 232 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: those things. 233 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: More quick things. I heard you on Jason Starks Show 234 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: the other day. Ken, The craziest thing I heard on 235 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: this topic was that, seriously that the White Sox will 236 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 2: lose more games this year than last year. He said, 237 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty four losses. I listened to all 238 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: you're back and forth, and I was like, wow, I mean, 239 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: it's not crazy, but it also is just based on 240 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: I don't know the law of averages in baseball, and 241 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: I know they're worse. They got rid of Crochet, that 242 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: might get rid of Robert. But I still was like, 243 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: can you imagine if after all that last year they're 244 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: even worse. 245 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it. And I put the number at 246 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: one ten. I think it was Jason at one twenty four. 247 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: Which surprised me. 248 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: Jason is the most reasonable, level headed person of all 249 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: of us. But his argument was good. He listed the 250 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: members of the rotation that I don't know that any 251 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: even knowledgeable fan could list the five members of the 252 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: White Sox rotation if you're not a White Sox fan, 253 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: even if you are, so is it possible they lose more? Yes, 254 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: but I'm with you, Scott Law of Averages. It's just 255 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: difficult to imagine them being that bad again. 256 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, are they going to be terrible? 257 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: Yes, but I mean they could lose one seventeen and 258 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: that's not one twenty one and it's not one twenty four, 259 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: So that's all. I was just like, one twenty four. Ken, 260 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: thank you, good to see you, and we're excited for 261 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: opening day. 262 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, guys, thanks. 263 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. 264 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: That's Ken Rosenthal. That's inside Scoop that's presented by Homage. 265 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: Shout out to Homage. It's it's an awesome, awesome company 266 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: with really great great stuff on there baseball wise. They 267 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: even have a grateful deadline that's super cool. I've got 268 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: one of their shirts with it's a baseball tie in. 269 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: But Homage dot Com slash foul territory. Use the code 270 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: foul territory to spell it our show name on there, 271 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: and you'll get yourself well twenty percent off if you're 272 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: a first time homage shopper. I know a lot of 273 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: you in the chat already are big fans and have 274 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: a lot there. 275 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 3: I've got one of their shirts too. 276 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: It's super sunny, so I don't know if you could 277 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: see it, but you could show me real quick before 278 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: we jumped the break, so we could show it off 279 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: because this is the last day. Todd father said, I 280 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: can wear spring training shirt. It's uh, I want to read. 281 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 6: It gratefull spring trending with a beautiful sun, some oranges 282 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 6: or whatever. That looks like it's got every team back. 283 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 8: Then that's nice. 284 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 285 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've got one for Arizona too. If you're like, yeah, 286 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: I don't want gratefully, I'm on Cactus. 287 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 8: Do your shirts like that? 288 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 7: No? 289 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 4: No, they used to when I was like three or four, 290 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 4: Not not anymore. 291 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: Some would think I'm three or four with ash media, all. 292 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: Right, what's the beef? 293 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: So there was a good story in the Athletic from 294 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: Jen McCaffrey about the Red Sox front office doing some 295 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: audits and some changes, and that includes losing people that 296 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: have been with the organization for a long time scouting 297 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: wise as well. Krats worked for them for like eight minutes, 298 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: I think, so we'll get him involved too. So I mean, technically, Krats, 299 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: you were part of cuts at one point, or maybe 300 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: you cut yourself. I don't know, but anyway, among them 301 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: you did, I figured that would be the case. 302 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: You do that often. 303 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: Among them was longtime scout will Romey, who had a 304 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: huge impact on the team that from the story. He 305 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: signed Roman Anthony, Tristan Cassis and Cutter Crawford. 306 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: Right. 307 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: I shouted out Dana Brown earlier in the show, who 308 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: I know behind the scenes. 309 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: And I've talked to Alex Anthopolis about this. 310 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: He's been a wiz at finding some of the best 311 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: talent for Atlanta and now he's doing it for Houston. 312 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: So what did you think of this story and these 313 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: changes that happen. I mean, this has been a storyline 314 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: for the past ten years or so where it's less 315 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: scouts and it's more in the analytics department. So this 316 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: comes to life and it's hard for me Kratz to 317 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: read because I'm always like, why can't we have both 318 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: And if somebody has picked out three valuable players over 319 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: a short time period, don't they get to stay on 320 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: board and hopefully find more Or is there more to it? 321 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 5: I think there's I have to be straight up honest. 322 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 5: I think there's some inefficiencies with scouts, and scouts might 323 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 5: be hissed. But I also think there's some underappreciation of scouts. 324 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: These dudes they work on one year deals. They work 325 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: on one year deals, they travel two hundred and eighty 326 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 5: days out of the year. They're seeing these guys and 327 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 5: it's not just one person that's finding those players like 328 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 5: it is a group. So to say, oh, well he 329 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 5: signed them, it doesn't mean that he was the first 330 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 5: to see them. It's a long process. And that's where 331 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 5: I have the issue is you need these bodies. You 332 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 5: can't just go and find somebody like a Christian Campbell. 333 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 5: You need to see him in different environments. I remember 334 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 5: a pirate scout told me when Bryce Harper was coming 335 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 5: out of high school. He's like, we're not we don't 336 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 5: have the first pick. We got no shot of getting 337 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: Bryce Harper. I was like, so do you just quit 338 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 5: because he was in his region? I was like, do 339 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 5: you just quit watching him? He goes, I've seen fifty 340 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 5: two of his at bats already this year and they 341 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 5: had no chance of picking him. So you have to 342 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: have these guys boots on the ground. You can't just 343 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 5: discount what they do. But also some scouts need to 344 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 5: get with the times, and I think sometimes that's why 345 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 5: you need to make these cuts and new front office. 346 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 5: They're learning, the people learning what they do and what 347 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 5: they don't do. There's a real, real tough dichotomy here 348 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 5: of like different things pulling in both directions. 349 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's kind of one of the points 350 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 7: I wanted to make with You got scouts that have 351 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 7: been around for forty or fifty years. Are they adjusting 352 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 7: to the times of what baseball is now with the 353 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 7: analytics and stuff, Because I know that there's a lot 354 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 7: of older scouts that say, I'm old school. I'm not 355 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 7: changing the ways that I'm scouting players. But that's how 356 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 7: they're signing players these days and bringing players up to 357 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 7: the big leagues by you know, it's not just by 358 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 7: batting average, it's you know, velocity off. 359 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 8: The bad and you know, on base trans whatever. 360 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 7: The analytics they use some scouts just don't want to 361 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 7: use that anymore, the old time scouts, So obviously sometimes 362 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 7: you have to have some change after that. 363 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 6: And listen, I'm here to back the scouts because I 364 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, like I still talk 365 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 6: to some of them old timers that scouted me or 366 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 6: scouting my brothers or the guys in the early nineties, 367 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 6: and they're still doing it, you know, and they still 368 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 6: hit me up. Hey, I'm at a Ruckers game just 369 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 6: saying I'm looking at this guy, and I think it's 370 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 6: pretty cool to. 371 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: See these guys still doing it. Yeah, I'm sure some 372 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: of them still don't understand it. 373 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 6: But at the same time that old school input like 374 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 6: Kenny player, can he not play? At the end of 375 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 6: the day, is this guy going. 376 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 4: To help our ball club? Forget about all the damn 377 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 4: numbers I can't stand that. 378 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 6: Is this guy going to come in four and five 379 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 6: years to come in and impact our ball club? 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I have no idea what the 406 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: numbers look like, but that still sounds like a healthy 407 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: number to me. 408 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: Kratz. 409 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: So my thing that I was starting this off with 410 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: was I'm okay with the number getting sized up correctly. 411 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: But like you said, I mean, hey, it's not just 412 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: one guy who's scouting someone and then you know, standing 413 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: up for him. But I'm like, damn, if that guy 414 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: had a pretty big say I'm nailing just just the 415 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: Roman Anthony selection alone, if he was like the number 416 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: one guy in the room, I'm like, I'm gonna keep 417 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: him on board. I'm gonna get a little surplus value 418 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: out of Roman Anthony. He's the top position player prospect 419 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 2: in the sport right now. So if he looks good 420 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: when he gets called up probably in May for the 421 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: Red Sox, like that guy should get a little extra credit. 422 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 5: Maybe I'm maybe I'm talking out of you know, ignorance 423 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 5: and not knowing exactly how it works, but I bet 424 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 5: there's three or four scouts that say they drafted with 425 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: the Red Sox that say they drafted Roman Anthony Marcelo Meyer, 426 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 5: because when I went through the draft process with the 427 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 5: Red Sox, there was a lot of dudes on the 428 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 5: zoom call explaining who they picked. Hey, this is who 429 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 5: we picked, this is why we picked them, this is 430 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 5: what we see. And that year there's only twenty rounds 431 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 5: and that was the year that Marcelo Meyer got picked, 432 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 5: and every dude was explained as this dude big league, 433 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 5: this big league that this. 434 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 9: You know. 435 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 5: It's like, we can't have all big league, you know, 436 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 5: in all twenty rounds of these guys. But there's a 437 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 5: lot of scouts in a room that do a lot 438 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 5: of work and they all feel like they have a 439 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 5: piece of it. And that's how it has to work, 440 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 5: because you can't just have one guy going out and 441 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 5: being like because going are the days what I was 442 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 5: talking about. Oh yeah, you know, I brought my radar 443 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 5: gun out with the battery is broken, so I took 444 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 5: my stopwatch and I clocked out fast. He was throwing 445 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 5: that right there, and that's a million dollar warm man. 446 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 5: You don't see that very all. 447 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 8: It's the Clint Eastwood of Trouble with the curve. 448 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 7: We need a Clint Eastwood on it in every organizations. 449 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 6: The old Scout, the Old Scout, other gigs of rats. 450 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 6: You know what, it says how he feels, and you 451 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 6: know what, take it or leave it. I still think 452 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 6: you need those guys in the game, and that's just 453 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 6: the you know, the feeling. Twenty two, Like you said, 454 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 6: I think that's a good number. But these guys are 455 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 6: going from If you're an East Coast guy, you're going 456 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 6: from Maine all way to like Virginia. You got the 457 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 6: path you're taking is absolutely incredible. 458 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 8: Ye signed up for it? 459 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 460 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 4: No, mom, Yeah, you're right. 461 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 6: I'm just saying it's a lot of tireless hours and it's. 462 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 4: A lot of driving, for sure. 463 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: That's good. You had a clear question before we hit break. 464 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: What was your question? You can ask it? 465 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 5: Oh no, I want to. I wanted to hit when 466 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 5: when we showed Todd single, there were the reds looks 467 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 5: like coach behind him. He's measuring and he had the 468 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 5: range finder out. If you guys want to know what 469 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 5: troll in depth. Yeah, you see him right there, Yeah, 470 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 5: right next to Todd's huge nose. He's got the range 471 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 5: finder out. And I'm not saying he's gonna do it. 472 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 5: But some teams will put a pin in the ground 473 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 5: and that is their central starting location for the center fielder, 474 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 5: and they pull out a little sheet of paper that 475 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 5: sits in their pocket in the game, and that's where 476 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 5: you see him on different counts. This guy's a minus 477 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 5: one plus two first first number means you're going minus one, 478 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 5: so you're gonna go to your left one step and 479 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 5: you're going to give him two more steps, so you're 480 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: going to back up two steps. And it's all from 481 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: that central location. So it's rare that people see that, 482 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 5: but you do that every park so that you're not like, ah, 483 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 5: you know what, I'm close to the fence here. This 484 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 5: looks good. That's how intricate they're working with the analytical stuff, 485 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 5: and guys shift and change with each pitch. 486 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: I didn't know about that. 487 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: I think Kratzy just let the cat out of the bag. 488 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, this pin story has got something to do it. 489 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: I really didn't know about that, did you. 490 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 8: Well, i'd heard. I don't know remember which team it was, 491 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 8: but it was a couple of years ago where they. 492 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 7: Were measuring out where they wanted their players to play 493 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 7: in the outfield. 494 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 8: And they were marking spots. But I didn't know if 495 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 8: that was legal or not. 496 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. 497 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 8: But he didn't. 498 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 7: We didn't see him drop a pin, so he's not 499 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 7: going to be in trouble. Whatever that coach was doing, 500 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 7: maybe he was looking for a golf ball, I don't know. 501 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was trying to see if he wanted to 502 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 5: use his fifty six or if he was going right 503 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 5: full sand wedge on that one. 504 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 4: I left the golfing here from home point and see 505 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 4: how far. 506 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 8: There is golf here later in the season. 507 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, really, yeah, Yeah, they do it from up in 508 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 7: the rafters or whatever you call these things. 509 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, you golf all onto the field. They put little 510 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 8: targets on. 511 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 5: The field because that's where Todd usually hits his golf shot. 512 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 6: If you look behind it, you see, like over those bleachers, 513 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 6: that's where I. 514 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 4: Used to live. 515 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: Boys here, So Frazer grants here all week. All right, 516 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: let's point this out from Vet MGM yesterday that I 517 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: really thought was entertaining. So they said top ten hitters 518 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: in five years according to Jack Gipt and obviously just 519 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: caught fire. 520 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 3: They're like, we didn't do it, we just put it 521 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: in there. Just for fun. Ellie de la Cruz was one. 522 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: So then someone sent a DM to the Foul Territory 523 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: Instagram and said, Scott put this listing Jackson Serio to 524 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: Junior Campinaro three wyat length five games with six, Iron 525 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: Judge seven, Dylan Cruise eight and they said they traded 526 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: him to Houston Roman Anthony nine and Jason Dimga is ten. 527 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: So no Sodo no o tani no Bobby Wit junior. 528 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious but also interesting. 529 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 8: And trading somebody. They put a trade in there. 530 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 3: That was my favorite part. I saw that. I was 531 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 3: cracking up. 532 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: I'm like, they freaking traded Dylan to the Ash shows 533 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: in a five year span. Wow for camp Smith up there, 534 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: I don't know that missing. 535 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Bobby WIT's the one and and Aaron 536 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 5: Judge is gonna be like he's gonna be like thirty 537 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 5: nine years old. Yeah, I need, I need Bobby Witt 538 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 5: on there. 539 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: I agree. I agree for me. Sodo's got to be 540 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: on there. Todd's boy, He's he's still gonna. 541 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 3: Be thirty thirty one, thirty one. 542 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm still gonna buy in Soto 543 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: being good. He might be a d h at that point, 544 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: but I'm buying into that. 545 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 8: So he's gonna break even more. 546 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah, exactly, they're missing a few. 547 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 6: But hey, listen, just like when you decide on who 548 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 6: you're gonna pick for the World Series, you never know 549 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 6: what's gonna happen in injury or something else you don't wish. 550 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 6: But yeah, this is a This is an interesting one, 551 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 6: to say the least. 552 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: I just I thought it was bold, like the Balls 553 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: of chat ept to just get asked a question and 554 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 2: be like, oh, by the way, I'm going to make 555 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: a tree. I didn't ask you about that, right, this 556 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: is incredible? 557 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, right, I forget the time. 558 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: And if this happened. 559 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: Yes, if Dylan Cruise is on the Astros in five years, 560 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: people are going to lose their yes. 561 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. 562 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 2: Anyway, if you thought there was someone else missing that 563 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: I'm missing, those were the three immediately that popped up 564 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: when I looked at it. But you know, someone said, 565 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: Tatis Junior'll be starting to get up there a little bit. Yeah, well, 566 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 2: let's hit more futures tomorrow. I'm gonna put the pressure 567 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 2: on everyone to pick a couple win loss over unders 568 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: that we like. But today most bet teams to miss 569 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: the playoffs on the bet MGM Futures list year Cleveland, 570 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: San Diego walking right. Obviously, this is showing you how 571 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: much you know, interest there is from people that are 572 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: looking at these values and saying, hey, I actually think 573 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: there's value here. We're not talking about the White Sox. 574 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: They're probably I don't even want to know on the 575 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: board minus a ton right to miss the playoffs. If 576 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: they're even on the board. Most bet teams to make 577 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: the playoffs, Cincinnati's at plus two forty, Arizona's at plus 578 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: one fifteen, and Boston's at plus one fifty five. 579 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 4: They're not given since Andy Love. Remember we did it. 580 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: About the minus one fus one fifteen. Sorry for Arizona. 581 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, do you see remember in the division too, they're 582 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 6: not given since he Love either. So that now that's 583 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 6: a bet that you kind of trickle and and follow 584 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 6: for the whole year. 585 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 4: In my opinion, that one to make the playoffs and 586 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 4: maybe even to win the Division two as well. 587 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: I like it. That's where there's value. That's why they don't. 588 00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: I don't rublus this year. 589 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: Let's go back. 590 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 4: You've been talking about it all off season. 591 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: I mean that I got to look at what the 592 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: updated when lost total is. I'll check it out and 593 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: i'll probably hit that tomorrow. But it really hasn't moved 594 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: a ton. You know, they're not getting a lot of love. 595 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 5: They're not and I'm wondering why what I'm missing. We 596 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 5: kind of asked Patrick Muney yesterday, why what are we missing? 597 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 5: With the Cubs being the division winner? I love the 598 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 5: money right there with Cincinnati. I am not touching one 599 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 5: of those teams to miss the playoffs. If you picked 600 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 5: the Milwaukee Brewers to miss the playoffs for the last 601 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 5: seven years, you are absolutely in the doghouse. So to me, 602 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 5: the only numbers I'm touching. I love Arizona making the 603 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 5: playoffs there, and I love the Sinci pick, especially at 604 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: plus two forty. 605 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 606 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: Hey, you know how it works because we text all 607 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: season when we're picking our games, and sometimes I'll go 608 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: to Pratzydak, what am I missing on this game? And 609 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: then it's like nothing, they won nine to two. You 610 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: get crushed. So it is what it is. 611 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: But hey, we'll go over more picks tomorrow. 612 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: Obviously, we do our season predictions tomorrow, but we'll hit 613 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: on some futures as well. 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