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Speaker 2: link in the show notes. Previously on Hot Money, the

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Speaker 2: pressure on Daniel Kinahan is rising. His partners in the

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Speaker 2: Dubai supercartel are starting to fall, and police around the

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Speaker 2: world are working on a secret plan to take him

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Speaker 2: down for good. It's the morning of April twelfth, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two, and reporters and crews arrive at a press

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Speaker 2: conference in Dublin that's been called by the Irish Police. Officially,

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Speaker 2: there'll be an update on how law enforcement agencies are

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Speaker 2: working together to collaborate against international organized crime, but it's

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Speaker 2: a bit vague, perhaps suspiciously vague, and journalists they're starting

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Speaker 2: to speculate about what this press conference is really about.

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Speaker 2: Behind the scenes. John O'Driscoll is getting nervous. John's assistant

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Speaker 2: Commissioner in charge of Serious organized crime. Ever since his

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Speaker 2: meeting with US officials three years before, he's been working

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Speaker 2: on a single objective. And the press conference this morning

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Speaker 2: in Dublin it's going to be the moment he finally

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Speaker 2: gets to announce it to the world. But John knows

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Speaker 2: that if work gets out, it could all fall apart.

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Speaker 1: He's chosen the venue carefully.

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Speaker 3: I said that, beyond any doubt, it was not going

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Speaker 3: to take place in those rooms that we may have

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Speaker 3: had press conferences relate to the ken Hens previously.

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Speaker 2: Instead, it would take place in Dublin City Hall. It's

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Speaker 2: the right sort of setting for a historic announcement. Marble flows,

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Speaker 3: The holding of the event in City Hall was important,

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Speaker 3: first of all because it is that one for building

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Speaker 3: that it is, but also it is situated in south

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Speaker 3: inner city Dublin, which is where the Kenhn organization emerged from.

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Speaker 2: Quietly, senior officials from various foreign police forces have been

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Speaker 2: flying into Dublin. People from the US Treasury, DA and

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Speaker 2: National Crime Agency, including Deputy Director of Investigations Matt Horn.

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Speaker 4: We derived the day before from the UK and had

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Speaker 4: been extremely well looked after by the GUARDA from the airport,

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Speaker 4: and you know they were keeping a very close eye

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Speaker 4: on ask to make sure that all the all of

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Speaker 4: us representatives of the international law enforcement community were sort

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Speaker 2: And despite all these high profile police officers arriving in

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Speaker 2: Dublin at exactly the same time, John's been able to

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Speaker 2: Within minutes, the kinner Hands will become some of the

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Speaker 2: most wanted men on the planet. I'm Miles Johnson and

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Speaker 2: from the Financial Times and Pushkin Industries. This is hot

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Speaker 2: money The New Narcos, Episode eight, The Red Notebook. Back

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Speaker 2: when I started at the FT as a trainee reporter

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Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, I never expected I'd end up writing

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Speaker 2: about organized crime. We covered things like the stock market

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Speaker 2: and mergers and acquisitions. There was this very clear boundary

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Speaker 2: of business, CEOs and politicians and the underworld, but something's

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Speaker 2: changed since then. The line between criminal activity and state

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Speaker 2: We live in a time where some heads of state

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Speaker 2: increasingly act like crime bosses, and the crime bosses they

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Speaker 2: It could be North Korean state hackers stealing bitcoins to

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Speaker 2: one backed by authoritarian governments. I called them state backed gangsters,

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Speaker 2: I've discovered that European drug traffickers have been taking advantage

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Speaker 2: That press conference that John's arranged, he knows it could

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Speaker 2: way that Iran secretly pursues its enemies in Europe, people

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Speaker 2: in the world. Husseyin Aberdini was born in Iran, but

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Speaker 5: I have been with the resistance over three decades now,

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Speaker 2: In the spring of nineteen ninety, Hussein was a young

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Speaker 2: who'd crossed the border illegally. One day in Istanbul, he's

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Speaker 2: Hussein barely has time to take in that someone is

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Speaker 5: Another car pinned us from behind. It was then which

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Speaker 2: A man jumps out of the vehicle in front, the

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Speaker 1: He's holding a revolver.

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Speaker 5: And it was only I think a couple of meters

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Speaker 2: He's clutching the briefcase like a shield as the man

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Speaker 5: First bullet hit my chest and I didn't know how

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Speaker 5: many bullets, you know, I received then, and I just

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Speaker 2: Saint's lying on the ground, bleeding, and he can see

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Speaker 2: the man walk up to him. He's preparing to take

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Speaker 5: The bullet jammed and the muzzle of the gun.

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Speaker 2: That's a Saint's first lucky break. The traffic starts to

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Speaker 2: move again, and the assassin take off. Hussein desperately needs

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Speaker 2: to get to the hospital, but the car he was

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Speaker 2: in is smashed up, and everyone else on the motorway

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Speaker 2: they seemed to be trying to run away as quickly

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Speaker 5: I remember very vaguely that my colleague threw herself, you know,

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Speaker 5: The hospital was only three minutes away. If it was

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Speaker 2: Hussein fell into a coma. It would be fifty days

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Speaker 2: had passed very close to his heart and another had

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Speaker 2: destroyed his liver. But even at the hospital he's not safe.

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Speaker 2: The killers they come back, and this time they're posing

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Speaker 5: But my true friends arrived and they were told, you

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Speaker 5: know that there are other people who wanted to come

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Speaker 5: scene when they realized, you know, there were people, my

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Speaker 2: That's the same second stroke of luck, and there'll be

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Speaker 2: a third one as well. When the killers call up,

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Speaker 2: pretending to be the police, they tell the hospital staff

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Speaker 5: But the president of Turkey in those days was Tolgodozol

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Speaker 5: Bogos call. It was the Ranian regime who wanted to

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Speaker 5: That was very pure luck.

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Speaker 2: That was more than thirty years ago. Hussein tells me

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Speaker 2: Hussain is a senior member of Iran's main foreign opposition group,

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Speaker 2: the National Council of Resistance of Iran or the NCRI.

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Speaker 5: SO the main objective of the National Council of Resistance

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Speaker 2: The NCRI, it's an umbrella organization, and one of the

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Speaker 1: In the Netherlands.

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Speaker 2: target of the Iranian regime. In June twenty eighteen, Hussain

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Speaker 2: and his colleagues are in Paris. They're holding a huge meeting,

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Speaker 2: a rally called the Free Iran World Summit.

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Speaker 5: Tens of thousands of Iranians with many non Iranian supporters

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Speaker 2: Dozens of foreign politicians are invited as well, and everyone

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Speaker 2: Hussain finds out what very nearly happened.

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Speaker 5: I think it was on the first of July. The

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Speaker 2: Belgian police had arrested two Iranians who were on their

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Speaker 2: They clearly cared a lot about this case. The criminal

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Speaker 6: Arrives, Assadi arrives in Austria in twenty fourteen, and then

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Speaker 6: Do you think it's reasonable to assume that Asadi could

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't have a precise information about this case,

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Speaker 6: So it's reasonable to assume, you know, we have a

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Speaker 5: He's had a hand in his hand in it.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely what he say says.

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Speaker 2: John O'Driscoll has been working on a plan to sanction

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Speaker 7: Today's a landmark day.

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Speaker 1: But now the Kinahans have run out of.

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Speaker 7: Time and in particular against the Kenahan organized crime gang.

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Speaker 7: This organized crime gang started life as a sopha inner

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Speaker 8: So, as of today, the Kinahan transnational criminal Organization joins

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Speaker 2: At this moment, we have to stop here for a

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Speaker 2: They've been sanctioned by the US government, one of a

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Speaker 2: Detective Chief Superintendent Seamus Poland he knows that the US

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Speaker 9: Because the dangers with sanctions is that if any legitimate

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Speaker 2: Soon, the United Ara memorates freeze Daniel's assets too, and

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Speaker 2: they empower their own sanctions on the Kinnahans in Dubai,

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Speaker 1: They go on the run.

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Speaker 9: Significant parties within the Kinahan organized crime group all went

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Speaker 2: But the strange thing is it's been more than a

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Speaker 2: they're all still at large. It's not clear where they are.

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Speaker 2: living on the false identities. Others think that there's somewhere

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Speaker 9: Well, investigations are still ongoing as well at the moment,

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Speaker 9: so the sanctions was only one phase of a much

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Speaker 9: wider investigation that that's continuously ongoing and taking place. And

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Speaker 9: for one of the principles who's sought for charges in

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Speaker 9: relation to murder and directing organized crime, and that's still

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Speaker 1: For a few.

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Speaker 2: Years, the men one who gathered at Daniel Kinahan's wedding

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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen seemed almost invincible. They created a new model,

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Speaker 2: stateless gangsters, using modern technology to run global mafias in

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Speaker 2: ways that were impossible a few decades before. But eventually

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Speaker 2: their reputation caught up with them. They made the mistake

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Speaker 2: of becoming too public, too brazen. I began reporting on

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Speaker 2: this story because I think it tells us something important

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Speaker 2: that made the Dubai Supercartel possible. They're only accelerating the

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Speaker 2: criminals of the future. I think they're going to be

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Speaker 2: more global, more sophisticated, and more dangerous, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's going to get harder to tell if someone's a gangster,

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Speaker 2: a businessman, or both. The story of the Supercartel for

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Speaker 2: me It's an ominous sign of these new hybrid threats

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Speaker 2: that democracies face and of government's weakening ability to fight them.

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Speaker 2: The sanctions against the Kinnahans, they've been hailed as a victory,

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Speaker 2: a landmark in coordinated action by Western governments to take

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Speaker 2: down a major crime group. But there's something I've kept

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Speaker 2: asking myself. With the sanctions a show of strength or

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Speaker 2: most powerful governments have teamed up to go after the Kinnahans,

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Speaker 2: but a year later, they're still out there. So the

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Speaker 2: Dubai supercartel may be finished, but its model will live on,

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Speaker 2: and perhaps something new and maybe worse, will take its place.

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Speaker 2: In fact, somewhere out there, it probably already has.

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Speaker 1: Not.

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Speaker 2: Long before the sanctions were announced, Rafael Imperiale, the Van

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Speaker 2: Goff boss, was arrested in Dubai and sent to Italy.

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Speaker 2: He since agreed to become a state's witness, and in

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Speaker 2: November twenty twenty three, he told Hallian prosecutors he would

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Speaker 2: in the hope of his sentence being reduced. MTK, the

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Speaker 2: boxing company that Daniel Kinahan co founded It closes and

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Speaker 2: back in the Netherlands where we began our story, Paul Urks,

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Speaker 2: the crime reporter, has been able to come out of

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Speaker 2: police protection and return to his normal life.

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Speaker 8: We want dur life back in full, so not riding

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Speaker 8: an armored gah, but riding the bike and sitting down.

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Speaker 2: A terrace uleas a Eliam, the local councilor and our

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Speaker 2: mayor who campaigned about the Alimtamid murder. Well, he's now

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Speaker 10: Look, you know, I was like this baby when I

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Speaker 10: got here. My father had like twenty dollars in his pocket.

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Speaker 10: But the honor of representing the Dutch people's it's massive

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Speaker 10: for me. My goal in life is defending democracy, defending freedom,

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Speaker 10: and that relates to the story of my dad and

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Speaker 10: also this story. Look how dangerous the world around us

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Speaker 10: can be.

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Speaker 2: In the Kinahans, they have to live every day knowing

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Speaker 2: they're being hunted by police.

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Speaker 1: For MIKEE.

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Speaker 2: Oysullivan, the man who first arrested Christy Kinahan in a

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Speaker 2: Dublin flat back in the nineteen eighties, it's only a

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Speaker 2: matter of time you.

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Speaker 11: Feel like saying to them, did you not think this

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Speaker 11: stay had come? By doing what you're doing? Better people

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Speaker 11: than them have been got and they have made themselves

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Speaker 11: a global target. And with the DEA on your case,

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Speaker 11: the world is a small place and it gets smaller.

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Speaker 2: Pushkin Industries. It was written and reports by me Miles Johnson,

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