1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: CAFI I AM six forty. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John and Ken Show on demand 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app on the radio now form one 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 2: to four. We have been all this year, but if 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 2: you can't listen live, you can always pick up the 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: show on the podcast on demand using the app or 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: go to CAFI AM six forty dot com. John cole 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: Belt has some time off. I'm here with Deborah Mark. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: Are you alive and ready? 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: I'm alive and ready. Ken, What do you got for me? 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 4: Yell? 12 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: We're going to begin with the stuff of your worst 13 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: worst nightmares, and I think you can guess what it is. 14 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: It's the biggest international story we have going The earthquake 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: in Morocco terrible. 16 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. 17 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: Wasn't it six point eight that Northridge got in nineteen 18 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: ninety four? 19 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: The same magnitude? 20 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 3: Yep? 21 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well we're going to get a report now. 22 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: This struck Friday night, Morocco time in the High Atlas Mountains. 23 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: Jordana Miller ABC News for KFI is in Jerusalem, Israel 24 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: with the latest Georgana. 25 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 26 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 5: Welcome to the show, Thanks thanks so much for having me. 27 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 5: I'm actually a native of California, and I was in 28 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 5: Northridge earthquake, which was as you said, at six point 29 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 5: eight quake, and that is the same magnitude that rocked 30 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 5: this area just southwest of Marrakech in Morocco, be at 31 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: the center around this high they're called the High Atlas Mountains. 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 5: Kind of a beautiful mountainous range there south of Marrakesh. 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 5: The death pole now has just recently been revised and 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 5: it is just under twenty nine hundred people confirmed dead, 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 5: twenty six hundred injured, almost half of those in serious condition. 36 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 5: And the rescue efforts today at least got a boost 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 5: from some international team Morocco, from the Nitherb Emirates, from Cutter, 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 5: from Spain and the UK. Those are the four countries 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 5: that King mohammadistics finally allowed into to give really desperate aid. 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 5: We're seeing just really heartbreaking images of people in some 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 5: of these remote villages in the mountains who you know, 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 5: has some of them had to wait thirty forty hours 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 5: for help, and you know, the search and rescue teams 44 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 5: are hampered by this the very windy road, some of 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: them blocked now with rubble and boulders that came down 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: during the earthquake, So that's going to be a challenge. 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 5: And remember these villages or traditional homes, mud brick homes, 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 5: many of them we can see from some of the 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 5: aerial shots, you know, just crumbled, it seems in the 50 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 5: face of this really strong quake, and it closes the 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 5: window on how long people can survive because of the material. 52 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 5: It becomes dust so much quicker there. It's not like 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 5: concrete that were there's air pockets. So according to experts, 54 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: you know, it's even even more important to get to 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 5: these areas as fast as possible. 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, these were not high rise buildings, but these are 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: a lot of small sort of huts as you described them, 58 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: in these remote villages. But I guess if that collapses 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: on you, that can be very serious and very. 60 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: Tough to dig out from. How prepared or how common 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: are earthquakes in Morocco, Well. 62 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 5: It's pretty rare. I mean this the last really devastating 63 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 5: earthquake was in nineteen sixty. I believe they're not very 64 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 5: common and not in this area. So you know, it's 65 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 5: not as if, you know, it's not as if they 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 5: were prepared for this eventuality. You know, in terms we 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 5: could talk about let's say, Los Angeles, which you know 68 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 5: they've been talking about the Big one forever, right, so 69 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 5: it's you know, in that sense, it's even more puzzling 70 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 5: why officials in Morocco took so long to green light 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 5: and let in aid when everyone jumped to help, including 72 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 5: the United States including President Biden. You know, why Morocco 73 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 5: didn't grab anything and anybody who would come and help, 74 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 5: try to find survivors and aid the tens of thousands 75 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 5: of people who've lost their homes, you know, the main 76 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 5: square that leads to I mean people are sleeping outside 77 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 5: there because they're just too afraid to go into their homes. 78 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 79 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: I had read this morning that they were everybody was 80 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: waiting for the King of Morocco to say something concerning 81 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: a relief effort. And that's why there was this Because 82 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: this happened Friday night. We're already here on Monday, and 83 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: if you just told us there was finally aid coming 84 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: in from other countries, but they were waiting for the 85 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: king to make a move as to whether or not 86 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: they were going to accept this of help and helping 87 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: people dig out in this region. 88 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 6: Right. 89 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 5: Also shocking. I think that the king hasn't come out 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 5: to at least console the nation. You know, I don't 91 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 5: I don't really understand it. But I think it's also 92 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 5: perhaps partly because we're American and we're used to our 93 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 5: government talking to us, and we're used to being able 94 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 5: to ask questions and ask for you know, some kind 95 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 5: of accountability, and you know that certainly is not the 96 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: case in Morocco, and not to the extent that we 97 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 5: have those that kind of political culture. So we're going 98 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 5: to have to wait and see. The Interior Minister has 99 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 5: defended the kind of delay that the critics call it 100 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 5: in the aid coming in, saying they didn't want to 101 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 5: overload the roads and they thought there might you know, 102 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 5: might complicate the situation. There would be it might be 103 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 5: a lack of cooper between different teams, et cetera, et cetera. 104 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 5: Israel did offer Morocco help as well, and Israel's search 105 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 5: and rescue teams are known around the world as well 106 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 5: as their you know, their field hospitals that they put 107 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 5: they can build in a flash with really cutting edge 108 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 5: you know, instruments and them and and bring a team 109 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 5: of the best doctors. But Israel only signed a real 110 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 5: peace treaty or normalized ties with Morocco three years ago, 111 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 5: so perhaps for that it might be a little too sensitive. 112 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: But of course the United States, you know, also offered 113 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 5: a lot of help. So I think those are questions 114 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 5: that and criticisms don't probably dog the king of Morocco. 115 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: How did that a Marrakesh fare that's the big city 116 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: that was nearby. I was actually there a few years ago, 117 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: and of course there's a lot of history in Marrakesh. 118 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: How did the buildings hold up there? Do you know? 119 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, we do know. I also was in Marrakesh a 120 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 5: few years ago, and some of the older structures in 121 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: Marrakesh's old the old part of the city right near 122 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 5: here in the Middle East, who call it like a 123 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 5: shook an open market, if you remember, in those windy 124 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 5: little streets, and those are very old traditional buildings. A 125 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 5: lot of those crumbled blocking now some of those pathways. 126 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 5: There was an old twelfth century mosque, the tin Mill Losque, 127 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 5: which was also damaged, and even parts of the very 128 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 5: old Jewish community of marrakechh some synagogues were damaged as well. 129 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: The Jewish community, you know, has basically there's only a 130 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: few hundred Jews that still live in Marrakesh, but there 131 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 5: were a lot of Israeli that were there actually, and 132 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 5: here in Israel they've been on you know, every newscast 133 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 5: talking about the veras. You know, how absolutely frightening it 134 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 5: was to be in an earthquake that powerful, that lasted, 135 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 5: you know, according to counts, you know, up to twenty seconds, 136 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 5: which is long for an earthquake we know as Los 137 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: Angelina is up long. 138 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: That is very long. I usually I just got a 139 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: few second, Julton. For me, that's enough, but I can 140 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: imagine twenty seconds. That's crazy. Well, Jordana, thank you very 141 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: much for that update. We appreciate it. 142 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 5: Thank you. 143 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: All right. That's Jordana Miller, ABC News for KFI. 144 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 2: She's posted in Jerusalem in Israel, so she's a lot 145 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: closer to this six point eight magnitude earthquake that hit 146 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: Morocco Friday night in the High Atlas Mountains. I did 147 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: go to the High Atlas Mountains when I was in 148 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: Morocco on a trip. We started in Marrakesh and went 149 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: out there. I mean, you talk about desert, but that's 150 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: Debrah where I got on the camel. 151 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: Oh that's where you got on the camel. 152 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was my little tour of Morocco and they 153 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: put us on a camera. 154 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: Send me a picture of you. 155 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they dressed us in the traditional garb. 156 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: Very cute. 157 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: A Westerner appropriating the local customs and outfits. Terrible. We 158 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: got more coming up. 159 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: John and Ken KFI AM six forty Live everywhere the 160 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 161 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 162 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 7: AM six forty. 163 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: John has some time off. I'm here with debor Mark. 164 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: The other big thing that's going on today, obviously, if 165 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: you paid any attention to the news, it's the anniversary 166 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: of the nine to eleven attacks of two thousand and one, 167 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: twenty two years and well, Joe Biden's in Alaska, which 168 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: is a bit puzzling. But of course he made a 169 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: trip all the way to India for the g twenty summit, 170 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 2: and he stopped off in Vietnam and he's back in 171 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: Alaska on his way back to the United States. But 172 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: have no fear at ground zero for nine to eleven 173 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: was Kamala Harris, Vice President. Doesn't that make us all 174 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: feel better? Debork Mark, were you on the air in 175 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: two thousand and one or. 176 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 8: You know what, I was not on the air for 177 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 8: a short amount of time, and that was part of 178 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 8: that time. 179 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: But I remember that morning like. 180 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: It was yesterday, that you were not doing the news 181 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: then on the air. No, I was not, and you 182 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: were that little town of northern Cali. 183 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 9: I was. 184 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: I was. 185 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 8: I was in LA and I had a one year 186 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 8: old daughter, and I remember I was going to take 187 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 8: her to a play date. And as soon as I 188 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 8: saw what was happening, I just I remember calling my 189 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 8: friend and saying. 190 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: No, yeah, everybody froze. 191 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: It's canceled. I got to watch all. You know, all 192 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: this coverage just crazy. 193 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that was actually your chance to say 194 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: that you were only sixteen when this happened, and therefore 195 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: you weren't in radio. Yes, well a one year old daughter, Okay, 196 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: that that's hedging your way in. You could have been 197 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: a very young mother. Yes, that works for you. 198 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: I was in serain grade. Yeah, what is the second 199 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: grade make of that? 200 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 9: Eric, Well, my parents explained it all to me when 201 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 9: I got home from school that day. 202 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: They sent me to school. 203 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 9: My sister stayed back because she was in preschool and 204 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 9: it was at a temple and my parents didn't want 205 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 9: her going to school that day, and Yeah, my parents 206 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 9: just sat down and explained it to me, and we 207 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 9: just watched the news when I got home from school 208 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 9: that day the rest of the night. 209 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: Do you think they explained it objectively as you look back, 210 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: or do you think that they were just you know, 211 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 2: I think they. 212 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, those damn terraces kill them all. They let's get 213 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: ben laden. Now, hang on, they didn't go that far. 214 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 9: No, they didn't go that far, but I mean they 215 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 9: they were pretty much. I think a lot of people 216 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 9: just didn't know what happened. So they kind of were 217 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 9: just like some planes crashed into a building and we're 218 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 9: going to figure out what happened. 219 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was puzzling. I mean for people who were 220 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: too young to remember. You know what's weird about this 221 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: little interchange we just had. I was just doing the 222 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: John and Ken Show, like had been doing for far 223 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: too long. Huh doesn't that tell you something? Never Mark 224 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: just had a baby. Eric Scholar was in the second grade. 225 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: But I'm doing the John and Ken show. Has it 226 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: been doing for the past Yeah. Of course we were 227 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: not on the air because that was in the morning. 228 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: But the thing I remember is that my phone would 229 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: not stop ringing, and of course I had the old 230 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: voicemail back then, and I kept letting it go to voice. 231 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: Because it's five thirty. I think it was it seven thirty. 232 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: It was very early. 233 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: And the reason I was being called it was John 234 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: because our program director at the time wanted to put 235 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: us on a plane to New York to cover the attacks. 236 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: And of course it didn't take long to realize that 237 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: there was a ground stop. There were no flights. Nobody 238 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: was going to New York and was he got in 239 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: a damn car and I wasn't gonna do that and 240 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: take three days to get there. So but I say, well, 241 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: something's up. Nobody calls me this time of the morning, 242 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: this many times because I just wouldn't answer the phone. 243 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: I was lying there in bed, saying what could this mean? 244 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: So then I listened to a voicemail and then I 245 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 2: turned on the TV and this was between I. Well, no, 246 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 2: this was after the second plane struck, because that's when 247 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: everybody knew this was hell right the first plane thought 248 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: people thought it could be some sort of strange accident, 249 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: but when the second plane hit the other tower, that 250 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: was it. Everybody knew the United States is under attack. 251 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: And then we got word that there were several other 252 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: press and I remember it kind of crazy because I 253 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: went to my new stand. I talked to women there, 254 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: the woman that runs a new stand and people, and 255 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: the number of planes that could have been seized was 256 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: exaggerated by people. And if you guys had that experience, 257 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: but they're trying to account for them all, and how. 258 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: Many planes could there bay, you know, And then we found. 259 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: Out later in the day, well there were several and 260 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: then in the Pentagon, and then of course the one 261 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: that went down the field in Pennsylvania. But that was 262 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: a wild time, and you know, I kind of tuned 263 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: out for a while. I was too tense. I stopped 264 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: watching the coverage because I just I went for a run. 265 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: I just kind of I needed to just kind of 266 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: get my mind focused and try to figure out, you know, 267 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: because I was really really wild. But Joe is not 268 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: at ground zero today instead, well, as I said, he's 269 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: in Alaska. Before that, he stopped in Vietnam. And it's 270 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: interesting to look at the coverage from competing sources. The 271 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: El Segundo Times used associated press with a mostly positive 272 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: on Biden when he landed in Vietnam and he held 273 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: a short news conference with the leader of the Communist 274 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: Party there, who actually complimented Biden on how great he looks. 275 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: They hadn't seen each other in a number of years, 276 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: and you have a narry, raged aged day, and I 277 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: would say, you look even better than before, the Communist 278 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: Party leader said to Biden, Whereas other media covered it, well, 279 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: this way, Biden needed a nap. And of course he's 280 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: been on the road a long time since he went 281 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: to India for the G twenty summit. So we'll start 282 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: with the first clip where I had some reporters scratching 283 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: their heads. This is the beginning of Biden's remarks in Vietnam. 284 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 9: It is. 285 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: This round the world in five days is interesting in it? Well, 286 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 4: you know, there's that one of my staff members said, 287 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: remember the famous song, you know, good morning Vietnam, Well, 288 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: good evening in Vietnam and by morning back in America. 289 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: Doesn't he sound a little weak? I mean, an eighty 290 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: year old guy who's just been traveling all around the 291 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: world and he's put in front of the cameras to 292 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: make a speech after he arrives in Vietnam, and he 293 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: sounds a little lost and a little strange. We're going 294 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: to play this clip next, and if you recall, he's 295 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: done this story before, Apparently the question deals with the 296 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: G twenty summit and what they're going to do. Y'are 297 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: grown about climate change, and this is what happened. 298 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: I think the other thing is dawning on people. Many 299 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: of you are at foreign policy experts, have been engaged 300 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: for a long time. Did you ever think he'd be 301 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: sitting at a G twenty conference where everyone was preoccupied 302 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: with the notion of global warming. 303 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: Not a joke? 304 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 4: Did you ever think that. 305 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: It sounds desasperating by it? 306 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 4: My brother loves having famous lines some movies that he 307 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: always quotes, you know, and one one of them is, 308 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: there's there's a movie about John Wayne. He's an Indian 309 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 4: scout and they're trying to get the I think it's 310 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: a patch one of the Great tribe back on the reservation, 311 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: and he's standing with the Union. So he's roll on 312 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: there and there on their horses and their saddles, and 313 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 4: there's three or four Indians and headdresses and the Union soldiers. 314 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 4: The Union soul is basically saying, the Indians come with me, 315 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 4: we'll take care of it, will be everything to be good. 316 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: And the Indian scout. The Indian looks at John Wayne 317 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: and points to the Union so says he's a lion, 318 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: dog faced pony soldier. Well, there's a lot of line, 319 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: dog faced pony soldiers out there about about global warming, 320 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: but not anymore. All of a sudden, I don't realize that. 321 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: It's a problem. 322 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: And there's nothing like seeing the light. 323 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: Stuck the whisper in there. But honestly, they should not 324 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: let him have done this event. I have time later 325 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: on the show, I'll play the clip where they pull 326 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: him off the stage and end the news conference because 327 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: he was far too weak. He's rambling and he goes 328 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: back to the dog faced pony soldier story from a 329 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: John Wayne movie. Good God, how many people in the 330 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: world would even be aware John Wayne died in nineteen 331 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: seventy nine. 332 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: He died in nineteen seventy nine. 333 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: All right, Moore, coming up on the John and Ken Show, 334 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: we'll be talking to Carl DeMaio. Something you got to 335 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: know that's going on in Sacramento, Bill that would gut 336 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Proposition thirteen. John and KENKFI am six forty. We're live 337 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: everywhere and we've got on the iHeartRadio app. 338 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 339 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 7: AM six forty. 340 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: John has got some time off well this week. 341 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: The hacks in Sacramento are finishing up their crap because 342 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: they're gonna adjourn for a while after Friday's session, so 343 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: they're jamming through all the bill that they can having 344 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: quick hearings. We covered a lot in the last couple 345 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: of weeks about the bill that would hold sex traffickers 346 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: responsible for serious felonies. We could result in a lot 347 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: more punishment. That bill's expected to be voted on by 348 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: the end of the week after it finally got through committees. 349 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 2: We're looking at several others, but the one we're going 350 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: to talk about right now is known as ACA thirteen, 351 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: and it's probably called ACA thirteen for a reason. It's 352 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: got to do with Proposition thirteen. This is another dangerous one. 353 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 2: We learned that it just passed a committee of the 354 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: State Senate, and we'll now go to the State Senate 355 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: floor for a full vote, certainly by Friday, and we'll 356 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: find out what's in it that's ugly and dangerous. Concerning 357 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: Prop thirteen from Carl Demiel, Reform California, and of course 358 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 2: a talk show host in San Diego, Carl, Welcome back 359 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: to the show. 360 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me on. 361 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: All right, so I see you put out in a 362 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: real alert for people to hop on this. Tell our 363 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: listeners what's the dangers of this AC eight thirteen. 364 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. ACA thirteen is a constitutional amendment that would gut 365 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 6: Proposition thirteen from nineteen seventy eight. One of the hallmark 366 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 6: elements of Prop. Thirteen is that we intentionally wanted to 367 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 6: make it harder for politicians to pass tax increases. It's 368 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 6: never been good to have people who aren't subject to 369 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 6: attack imposing a tax on someone else, and that's why 370 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 6: we have the two thirds vote requirement for a lot 371 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 6: of tax increases, so that we only raise taxes when 372 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 6: absolutely necessary. Prop thirteen has been a godsend to a 373 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 6: lot of folks who would otherwise be out of their 374 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 6: home if their property taxes were increased beyond the level 375 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 6: they can afford. So ACA thirteen would gut that two 376 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 6: thirds vote protection. It's all part of the legislature's efforts 377 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 6: to try to stop the coalition of tax reformers from 378 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 6: the initiative that we've qualified for the twenty twenty four 379 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 6: ballot that would tech Prop thirteen and restore the two 380 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 6: thirds vote requirement and would also improve the definition of 381 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 6: fees so that the politicians can't call something a fee 382 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 6: when in fact it is a tax. And so what 383 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 6: they're doing is they're making it easier to raise taxes. 384 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 6: That's the mission that they're on, and we have to 385 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 6: stop them. That's why we're we've got this alert. We 386 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 6: have we have until Thursday at midnight to get as 387 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 6: many people to call these state senators and light up 388 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 6: their phones and make them feel the heat. We have 389 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 6: a list of ten state senators on our website at 390 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 6: Reform California dot org Reform California dot org, and it 391 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 6: is the top news story that we have there, and 392 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 6: we're urging people call these state senators. We give you 393 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 6: their phone number, and you know, tell them vote no 394 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 6: on ACA thirteen. Stop trying to undermine Prop thirteen. We 395 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 6: need we need, if anything, lower taxes, not higher taxes. 396 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, all of this gets confusing, Carl, because you know 397 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: AC eight thirteen, they would vote to put it before 398 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: the voters. 399 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 6: Am I right, they're putting it before the voters, but 400 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 6: you know darn well that they're going to describe it 401 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 6: as the Kitten and Puppy Protection Initiative. They will never 402 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 6: be honest. That's the other reason why we're really pushing 403 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 6: hard to strengthen Prop thirteen with our California Taxpayer Protection Initiative. 404 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 6: Part of what that initiative also does, in addition to 405 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 6: restoring the two thirds vote, protecting the definition of what 406 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 6: a tax is versus a fee, it requires that any 407 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 6: time a tax increase is put on the ballot, that 408 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 6: it has to contain the words tax increase in the. 409 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 9: Title, right. 410 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 6: And that is a game changer for us. And so 411 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 6: these politicians, I can't describe them any better. They're liars, cheats, 412 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 6: and thieves. So the whole lot of them are trying 413 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 6: to manipulate and trying to deceive voters at every turn, 414 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 6: and they don't want the voters to have a Prop 415 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 6: thirteen in the state of California. So this is the 416 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 6: this is the most significant threat to Prop thirteen that 417 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 6: we've seen since nineteen seventy eight. We need people to 418 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 6: make those phone calls before frankly that you know what, 419 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 6: they could bring the bill up tonight. So I would say, 420 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 6: make your damn phone calls right now. Call them now, 421 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 6: let them you know, feel the heat. We have a 422 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 6: list of those senators online at Reform California dot org. 423 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 6: It's our top news story on California Democrats attempt to 424 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 6: gut Prop thirteen. 425 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: You think that these ten might be more agreeable to 426 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: listen to people, Is that why you picked them? 427 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 6: Or yes, we picked the ten because these might be 428 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 6: more agreeable. Although two of the ten voted today to 429 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 6: advance the ACA thirteen. But hey, the more pressure the better. 430 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 6: So we have ten that we're targeting. We only need 431 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 6: six of them to either vote present or not vote 432 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 6: at all, or vote no because the tax raisers need 433 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 6: a two thirds vote and if we can deprive them 434 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 6: of that two thirds vote. And by the way, let 435 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 6: me just point out the bill ACA thirteen passed the 436 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 6: Assembly by one vote last week. So when people say, oh, 437 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 6: the Republicans have a super minority, a mega minority, may 438 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 6: it doesn't matter, you know what. One single vote would 439 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 6: have stopped this whole tax raising scheme last week. So 440 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 6: we do have an opportunity to stop it in the 441 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 6: state Senate if we get these calls made as soon 442 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 6: as possible. And let me also point out that we 443 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 6: are going to use these votes against these legislators in 444 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 6: Democrat Democrat races where you know they don't care about 445 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 6: Republican challengers because they say, well, look, this is California. 446 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 6: Republicans aren't competitive. I can vote anyway I want, even 447 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 6: if my constituents don't like it. Well, today we announced 448 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 6: that we're targeting one of the Assembly members who voted 449 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 6: for ACA thirteen last week. He's in a Democrat Democrat 450 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 6: race in the City of San Diego for city attorney, 451 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 6: and he's he's basically going to be punished by our 452 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 6: vote voting guide. We're going to tell people to strategically 453 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 6: vote for the other Democrat against him so we can 454 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 6: end his political career over this vote. And so I'm 455 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 6: putting these Democrats on notice. You may think that, oh, 456 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 6: I'm safe because I'm a Democrat, Well guess what you 457 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 6: may be in a Democrat Democrat race someday and this vote. 458 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 6: We've pledged that this vote will come back to haunt you. 459 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: Is it possible that we might see AC eight thirteen 460 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: and the California Taxpayer Protection Act both on the ballot 461 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: at the same time. 462 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: Could that happen or No? 463 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 6: No, they're trying to beat us to the punch by 464 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 6: putting ACA thirteen on in March with the marketing ballot 465 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 6: title that would then make it almost impossible for us 466 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,239 Speaker 6: to pass our initiative in November. What's interesting is they 467 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 6: had ACA one that they just passed that would lower 468 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 6: the threshold on property taxes from two thirds down to 469 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 6: fifty five percent for a special tax infrastructure. 470 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 471 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 6: And so you know, these guys lie out of both 472 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 6: sides of their mouths. You know, at one level, they're like, oh, 473 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 6: you know, we we want you know, if a reform 474 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: is going to set a change in the Constitution using it, 475 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 6: you know, voting, you know, changing a vote threshold, then 476 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 6: it should pass by the same amount. Well, they're not 477 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 6: subjecting ACA one to a two thirds vote. They want 478 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 6: to put our measure up for a two thirds vote, 479 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 6: and they want to give us a bad ballot title. 480 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 6: Even with a bad ballot title, it's going to be tough, 481 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 6: but we can get a majority two thirds. That would 482 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 6: be difficult, very difficult. And they know that this is 483 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 6: nothing more than a scam. This is a scam. The 484 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 6: Democrats are playing. The Sacramento politicians are playing, and you know, 485 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 6: the most of the media outlets are just shrugging their 486 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 6: shoulders and ignoring it. But this is going to lead 487 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 6: to higher taxes if we let it go through. 488 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: All right, Carl, thank you very much for give my 489 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: listeners the update. Appreciate it. 490 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 6: Thank you. Complicated stuff, but I think we broke it 491 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 6: down with them, all right. 492 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: Called to my old sherman of Reform California. Thanks for 493 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: coming on. Go to Reform California dot org. That's Reform 494 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: California dot org. From on this if you want to 495 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: contact these ten senators to try to block this ACA thirteen, 496 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: which yeah, it's important because it would gut Prop thirteen 497 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: on the. 498 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: Two thirds vote on Texas. 499 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 500 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 501 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 7: AM six forty. 502 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: Coming up after two o'clock. The Center for Immigration Studies. 503 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: They know a lot about what's really going on with 504 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: the border and immigration, both legal and illegal into the 505 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: United States. Senior fellow Todd Bensman will join, as we 506 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: mentioned him on Friday, because he's got quite a story 507 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: on what's going on with the smugglers and they're. 508 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: A sophisticated infrastructure. 509 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: The cartels to bring people into the country, although I 510 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: think my first question firm would be it seems pretty 511 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 2: easy to get into the country without being smuggled in. 512 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: But you have this way, you don't have to go 513 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: through the asylum procedure in the app. And anyway, Todd's 514 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: got good details coming up after the news Act two 515 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: o clock. Well, we got a Debor Mark story and 516 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: I'm shaking my head at the update. I really can't 517 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: believe this. There'll be a hearing in Irvine today, I guess, 518 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 2: maybe this afternoon to determine if a pit bull puppy 519 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 2: who ingested fentanyl will be returned to the owners. 520 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: Oh come on, no, that's a big no. 521 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: You would think not. This happened a few days ago. 522 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: Irvine police went to a parking lot of a Walmart 523 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: where all good things happened. There was a couple there 524 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: that were arrested for drug possession. Somebody must have called 525 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: it in I don't know, but they noticed. And there's 526 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: a picture of the little pit bull puppy. I'm not 527 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: a big pit bull fan, but this thing is cute. 528 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 2: You can tell by the size of its pause already 529 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: how big it's gonna be. Anyway, it was acting strangely, 530 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: so the police officers decided that believe it or not, Deborah, 531 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: they they administered narkan to the dog. 532 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? And the dog survived. 533 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 6: I mean this. 534 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: Female right right, he began recovering. They brought her to 535 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: a vet for treatment. The department is asking the district attorney, 536 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: this is the animal department, to file charges against the 537 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: couple for felony, animal cruelty, and possession of narcotics. In 538 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: the meantime, the dog is being held as evidence and 539 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 2: there's going to be a hearing to determine if she 540 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 2: should be returned to her original owners. Want are they 541 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: making a plea to get the dog back and they 542 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: let it eat fentanyl? 543 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure they want the dog back. They don't deserve 544 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: the dog back. 545 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: They don't. 546 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 9: I know. 547 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: I thought I saw a story. Let me see if 548 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: this is the right one, where there was something like 549 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: this may have happened before. 550 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: It's an eight week old dog and oh they were 551 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: transporting the two of them to a police station for 552 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: booking and they noticed the dog. Something wasn't right. So 553 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: they realized, oh, this dog may have ingested fentanyl. And 554 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: they gave it the narcan and the. 555 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 8: Dog I mean was was it wasn't the dog just 556 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 8: sitting in a in a parking lot, in the car 557 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 8: in the walmart. 558 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was hanging out with right, So right, mean, what. 559 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: Are you doing? 560 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 8: I'm assuming that they left the dog and that's how 561 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 8: the dog got the fentanyl. The dog was alone in 562 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 8: the car in the parking lot. I mean, I'm making 563 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 8: an assumption here. 564 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: Who knows if they didn't give the dog fentanyl, thought 565 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: it might be funny to share with. 566 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: The dog some of their joys of drug taking. I 567 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: don't know. 568 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: Caleb Aaron Gibson twenty nine from San Juan Capistrano and 569 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: Catherine Mary Lumenki twenty seven from sant Anta. 570 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: These aren't teenagers, by the way. Those are the two. 571 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: That apparently had the eight week old dog that was 572 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: freaking out from a fentanyl overdose. 573 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what the dog. 574 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what a dog acts like when it's 575 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: I mean, your dog ingested a gummy. 576 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, my dog ingested some kind of pot and 577 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 8: let me tell you, it was scary. I truly thought 578 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 8: that my dog was dying. I thought my dog was 579 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 8: having a seizure. 580 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: It was what were the symptoms? 581 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 8: It was so first of all, she was just staring 582 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 8: at me and then collapsed. And so then I picked 583 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 8: her up and I brought her outside, and I thought, well, 584 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 8: it just goes back. 585 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, all kinds of crazy thoughts. 586 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 8: Then she peed all over the place because she she 587 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 8: lost control and she just was staring and then just 588 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 8: could not She couldn't stand on she couldn't put any 589 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 8: weight on her legs. And then her front pause started 590 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 8: flapping up and down. When I was holding her, I 591 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 8: truly thought that she was she was having a stroke. 592 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: It was. It was so scary, and that was just 593 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 3: hoot according to the vet. 594 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: Right, so she didn't get narkhan. 595 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: She did not get narkhan. And fentanyl is a lot. 596 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: More dangerous that. I mean, a small dog ingesting any 597 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: kind of fentanyl. 598 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: I mean, what do we hear over and over again, 599 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: even a very small amount could kill you and it's 600 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: just a little puppy eight weeks. Well, I think you 601 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: should start a protest if this couple gets this dog back. 602 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a good mission for you. 603 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 8: Oh, I think we should find out where that couple lives. 604 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 8: Ken we should do a John and Ken. 605 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: Remote with the bullhorn out front. 606 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: Yes, let's do that. 607 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: They're druggies, they'll be careful that they don't have weapons 608 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: or something. 609 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: Worse than that. All right, coming up next, we returned 610 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: to the border. 611 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't get enough attention these days because, quote according 612 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: to a lot of the media, everything's calm there. There's 613 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: still a lot of migrants coming into the United States. 614 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: And wow, the cartels have quite a system worked out 615 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: to get the money from the families who are trying 616 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: to get across the border. There's still big smuggling operations. 617 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: Todd Bensman will be my guest next, Johnny KENKFI AM 618 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app, and Deborah Mark 619 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: is in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've 620 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: been listening to the John and Ken Show. You can 621 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 2: always hear us live on KFI AM six forty one 622 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of 623 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.