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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spinoff show Popping Off,

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Speaker 1: where we are digging deep on this season of Banner

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Speaker 1: Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping

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Speaker 1: Off with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Emily Simpson.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Oh shoot, Emily, you wanted to start the intro today,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's do it again. Let's see how it

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Speaker 1: flows with you and then.

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Speaker 2: I'll go second. Okay, Hello everyone, welcome to Popping Off

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Speaker 2: with Emily Simpson and Teddy Mellencamp, your favorite. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: we're social losers. Yeah we are.

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Speaker 1: I have the burps, guys, don't mind me.

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Speaker 2: I tried, you know, as well as classy. That's super classy.

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Speaker 2: I keep it classy right here. On another episode of

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Speaker 2: Popping Off. Yes, it's pretty funny. We had a because

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Speaker 2: I struggle.

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Speaker 1: Naturally without having an alcoholic beverage with like feeling like

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Speaker 1: I always have the verbs. And yesterday we had Kiki

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Speaker 1: Barth on Real Housewives from Real Housewives to Miami, and

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Speaker 1: she like had a couple of verps and she's like, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm drinking a beer. Guys, I'm like, I wonder if.

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Speaker 2: Every time that happens to me, people think that I'm

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Speaker 2: drinking but this is just actually my unfortunate life. No,

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Speaker 2: I think people just think you're that unfortunate. Yeah, people additives.

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Speaker 1: Like not only I you know it is what it is, clearly.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people are out there trying to make

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Speaker 2: excuses for you, like maybe it's the beer, maybe it's alcohol.

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Speaker 1: I'm out of like a group chat with like my

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Speaker 1: best girlfriends that I've known since mommy and me, and

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Speaker 1: we've now created a list of people that apparently we

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Speaker 1: can't like.

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Speaker 2: Celebrities not people. Okay, okay, am I on that list?

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Speaker 1: No, there's no housewives okay, good vander pump rolls people

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Speaker 1: on the list, but all of a sudden on the list,

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Speaker 1: I was looking because we like add to it and

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Speaker 1: then it like becomes a running joke. And yesterday on

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Speaker 1: Now am I on the list?

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Speaker 2: Like it's like and they're like, well, you can't be

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Speaker 2: there's a separate group chat that you're not a part of,

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Speaker 2: just to let you know. And they all talk about

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Speaker 2: how much they can't stand you, like Teddy's voice is

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Speaker 2: reason enough that she is on this list. But I

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Speaker 2: was like, dang it, you know, like the list is

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Speaker 2: getting longer. It's such a fourteen people. Now, that is

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Speaker 2: a lot of people on this I didn't you know

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Speaker 2: you had that many friends? No people on the list?

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Speaker 2: Can I was like, oh, there's only five on the group.

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Speaker 2: I was like, there's no way the fourteenth brother.

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Speaker 1: Come on, it's seven right if we're including you.

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Speaker 2: Right, maybe it's like SciTE and a half. It's like,

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Speaker 2: we'll see how it is. We'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: What's doing with you? Anything exciting? Well, well, nothing exciting.

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Speaker 2: But I was eating a pretzel yesterday and then I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, that feels weird and one of my

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Speaker 2: veneers fell out. Have you ever had that happen to you?

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Speaker 2: Are your teeth reeal or do you have veneers? No?

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Speaker 1: My front four teeth are veneers.

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Speaker 2: But Mott the crazy thing is I've had these for

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Speaker 2: They said you're supposed to get them replaced every ten years. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I got my Veneers when I was nineteen years old. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I got to get it. Fill sang back there. Now,

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Speaker 2: so you're a vampire. Yeah, there's like a little fang.

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Speaker 2: You can't really see it, but anyway, it hurts you

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Speaker 2: when you smiled big, I did see it. Oh, very attractive.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh my god. Right. Anyhow, so now that we

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Speaker 2: get into Banner Pump Rules, I liked this episode because

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Speaker 2: we're starting to see more stuff going on, also starting

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Speaker 2: to wonder is this going to be like a housewife's

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Speaker 2: I mean, once Sandabal kind of repairs everything with everyone,

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Speaker 2: after that? Where do we go from there? And then

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Speaker 2: is it two completely divided groups? And then who are

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Speaker 2: we only going to see Ariana's messy room for the

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Speaker 2: I know, And I like how she goes in there,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, are you talking about the designer custom made

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're gonna have to leave your room to

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Speaker 1: show us the furniture because we can't see anything other

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Speaker 1: make that decision, we're going to have to see how

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Speaker 1: the valley goes, and then we're also going to have

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Speaker 1: to see how I don't know what it is called,

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that's going to be a show too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it looks like it's heading that way right. Well, they're

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Speaker 2: saying vander pump Villa is going to be a new show,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like if they're showing us this much

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Speaker 2: have to do a DNA taste test, but I feel

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Speaker 2: like those were some big huskies.

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Speaker 1: And if you are a proponent of like animal welfare,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, they I think I think those were

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Speaker 2: real wolves. But yeah, I hope they got compensated for

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Speaker 2: the photo shoot. We can't be taking advantage of the wolves.

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Speaker 2: And like, are wolves like pitbulls, Like as long as

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Speaker 2: they're raised right, they're they're not going to try to

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Speaker 2: eat you. I feel like that's wrong. I feel like,

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Speaker 2: no matter what, they're always innately a wolf and they

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Speaker 1: Do you think the wolves were offended by how much

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Speaker 2: They were like, that's not what Lisa looked like that day.

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Speaker 2: Just want to let everybody know, and like, brother freaking record,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a wolf, I'm a docson and this is

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Speaker 2: all this is a wolf suit. It's really a Pomeranian actually,

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Speaker 2: James Kennedy and Sana and Rocks, tiny whities and just

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Speaker 1: But all right, let's get in Before we get into

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Speaker 1: the episode, we've got some Housewife headlines, which the first

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Speaker 1: one pretty much just shows that scandabal has now hit

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Speaker 1: all forms of media, television, all the things. Because it

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Speaker 2: I feel like, actually, if you if you're on SNL,

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Speaker 2: even if they're making fun of you, I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: of you on SNL. Just to let you know, just

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Speaker 2: sho be the bear Man news. SNL knows your name, Emily,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they don't. My only shoe into SNL is

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Speaker 2: one of my clients is on SNL and I jokingly

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Speaker 2: for my own purpose, I said, could you do a

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Speaker 2: video mocking me? And she was like ha ha, but

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Speaker 2: put it into a skit. Wait, but what do you

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Speaker 2: mean she's on SNL like she's an actual Like yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm allowed to talk about it because she's

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Speaker 1: all in and I watched like kind of her rise

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Speaker 2: Away by her.

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Speaker 1: But however, she was not in the Scandavall skit, But

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Speaker 1: ruling that an embryo is the legal equivalent equivalent of

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Speaker 1: a human child. In the skit, a frozen embryo appears

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Speaker 2: About its life. The band of All is the name dropped.

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Speaker 2: When the embryo is asked if it feels like a

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Speaker 2: life to you? Colin?

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Speaker 1: I'm living at negative two hundred degrees in liquid nitrogensing

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Speaker 1: I don't got a heart.

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Speaker 2: I'm like Tom sand of All. I don't don't Tom.

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Speaker 1: You did it again, which I guess we could talk

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Speaker 1: Tom Sandoval had an a tattooed on his ass when

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Speaker 2: Out of it. I didn't. You didn't need to know that. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying this to be an asshole. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I guess everything I say is an asshole comment. But like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like they actually like someone down there

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have the hardest in lay. But

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Speaker 1: And my mom was like the cool mom, you know,

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Speaker 1: And you know, my id Emily allowed me to get it,

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Speaker 2: Know, well, maybe the A on his ass is like

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Speaker 2: the scarlet letter. It's like a for adultery, a for

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Speaker 2: adultery or ariana which is kind of the same thing

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Speaker 2: that is true. There we go, makes sense. All works out, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it all works out in the end. Does Shane have

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Speaker 2: any tattoos on his lower regions? Are you kidding? Shane

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Speaker 2: is as Mormon as you can get. There are no tattoos.

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Speaker 2: His body is a temple. No alcohol, no tattoos, no

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Speaker 2: cat Well, I would say, no caffeine, except he drinks

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Speaker 2: diet coke like a fiend. So but no coffee because

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Speaker 2: that's in the book. No coffee, no call if you

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Speaker 2: guys want to go down a Mormon rabbit hole.

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Speaker 1: Last night when I couldn't sleep because I had anxiety,

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Speaker 1: and I know this is like a sickness, but what

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Speaker 1: calms me is crime or scandal or those types of things.

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Speaker 1: So I listened to the podcast about the woman Ruby.

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Speaker 1: Have you followed anything about this?

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Speaker 2: No? Tell me, tell me more. Okay, So her name

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Speaker 2: is Ruby. She they called like themselves the Eight Passengers

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Speaker 2: because they had six kids and it's the two parents

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Speaker 2: Fans puzzled by Lisa vander Pump's spurry social media photo

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Speaker 2: The actual episode.

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Speaker 1: Starts out James is driving Graham Cracker home. He's unsure

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Speaker 2: But then his head would be down like this and

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Speaker 2: I know you have. That's the only reason I said it,

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Speaker 1: There's a place where they all live, like they have

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Speaker 2: Had to use leaves like large. I found large leaves,

431
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: large flat leaves. I would have a hard time with

432
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: leaves like those are crunchy. I'd worry about them getting

433
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: your nut. It was the leaves or nothing. That's where

434
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: I was at in life.

435
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: I love that we can judge Tom Zandoval for having

436
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: an a tattooed on his ass, but We're happy to

437
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: use our white tank tops and leaves on ours when

438
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:47,959
Speaker 1: we have to shit in people's neighborhood. But however, the

439
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: patio is what's really holding things up. Apparently they were

440
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: hoping that to open by the end of the month,

441
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: which we.

442
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: Now know how happened. We know the end of the

443
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: month has now been what are we like? Eight night?

444
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: But the city keeps throwing things at them.

445
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: Katie has zero fomo about the Tahoe trip.

446
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: She doubts Shorts. Oh, she doubts Shorts thinks it's a.

447
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: Good idea either, And if they all end up coming

448
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: up as besties, Arianna will still respect her boundaries. She

449
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: refuses to be loyal to anyone who isn't loyal to her.

450
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 2: That is a hard line drawn in the sand. So basically,

451
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: it's like if anyone comes to any resolution with Sandoval

452
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: and decides that, you know what, the past is the past,

453
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: we just have to move on, then then they are

454
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: now dead to Ariana? Is that where they're all at?

455
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: And also now Ariana also thinks that Shorts is dead

456
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: to her, So it's like, what are we going to do?

457
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: Because with all do as Andy says, watching solely Arianna

458
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: and Katie.

459
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: It ain't it for me. I need more action exactly

460
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: whether we got to get Sheena's babysitter making out with

461
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 2: Katie soon, like sum's got to go on with them

462
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: except for talking about their exes at this point exactly.

463
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: Arianna did have a funny confessional comment. She said, like

464
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: who do I have to go to?

465
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: Oh? Who do I have to blow to? Yeah? And

466
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 2: then it doesn't do it. But then I was like,

467
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 2: that didn't even.

468
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: Really sound like her. I wonder who gave her that line.

469
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, but what was that that was in

470
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: regards to getting the permits? Right, Like she's like, who

471
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: do I have to blow to get some permits around

472
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: here or something? Well, clearly shouldn't blow anybody because they

473
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: still don't have them. So I mean clearly she did

474
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: and it was not good, and she used one of

475
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: your broken Venier teeth and is right? Or she did

476
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: in her bedroom and they couldn't come. There's too much

477
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: more to my house. But they were like, what the

478
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: hell this is hoarders.

479
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm out here, it's hoarders and I can't get away.

480
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: From that white noise. Right, They're like, no permits for

481
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: you look at her house, but this is the health

482
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: shit in your bedroom, Let alone the freaking sandwich shop.

483
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: Let me making sandwiches. But I'm just so confused as

484
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: to why I can go to a subway near my

485
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: house that's like a B or a C and grating

486
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: and they have permits and because they didn't have a

487
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: patio with shit on it. You're right, subway doesn't have

488
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: a But.

489
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that subway is like Disneyland where it

490
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: like spews out or like Abercrombie where it spews out

491
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: a smell like I can smell subway from a couple

492
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: of blocks away.

493
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it has its own distinct smell. I

494
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but it is a subway smell.

495
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: So if it's something about her, ever does open. I

496
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: do think they could spray out some like now that

497
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: they don't have a patio vibe, they could have like.

498
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 2: A smell vibe. You mean, like a subliminal that just

499
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: kind of like entices people to come in, like a

500
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: ham and cheese, like a warm ham and cheese, wet

501
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: morning walk. Yeah it was one time.

502
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh well then we get back to we leave this situation.

503
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: We know this has gone nowhere, James brings Graham home.

504
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: You could tell Allie is not for this. She's not happy,

505
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: but she's trying to. Like it's like that fake smile

506
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh great, old Ali's like, I am

507
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: so glad this happened for the first time on camera,

508
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: so I have to sit here and write that. I

509
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: like also most of the time, and don't come at me,

510
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: guys most of the time.

511
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: If you're a cat lover, you're not also a dog lover.

512
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: Like you're either a cat person or dog person.

513
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 2: I think people are yeah, yeah, which are you a

514
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: cat or dog? Dog? Me? See, I'm a dog person.

515
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: Cats, you know, I don't even like being hugged and

516
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: like cats are always like poking at you.

517
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: But cats only like you for a second then they leave,

518
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: I know.

519
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: But they know when you're annoyed, and then they need

520
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: at you all the time.

521
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: Oh the kneading. You don't like the kneading?

522
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm like, so, I mean, I don't know

523
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: Dev wants a cat. We'll see what happens. But you

524
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: could tell she wasn't a fan of it. They have

525
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: Graham outside, Graham barks at their cat banks banks banks

526
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: and it worries Ali Graham was given up because he

527
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: was biting, and she is not okay with it.

528
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: As this episode progresses, I need the fact that I've

529
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: already seen this storyline and lifted on Real Housewives of

530
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. Is very hard for me to like, even

531
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: are you over there over the dog storyline? I thought

532
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: the dog, but I yes, and I realize I'm skipping

533
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: to later in the episode, but I just want to

534
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: point this out while we're talking about the dog. Did

535
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: you see how when Lisa brought the dog in to

536
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: Tahoe to the place, she hands the dog off and then.

537
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: She goes, I don't want to talk about it, but

538
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: here you go, And she was once again passing the

539
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: baton of all the information that she has given to

540
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: someone on one of her shows to talk about a

541
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: dog situation for them to then carry the storyline out.

542
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they did. So I mean less

543
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: stupid for being.

544
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: I'm not the only one that will forward. I'm the

545
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: least smart as a pig, at least or a three

546
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: year old. I do like that the dog got to

547
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: ride on the private jet and everyone else is like

548
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: on a commercial flight.

549
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: Well, and also the shade on poor Ken, like can

550
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: they not make him look like he's like not one

551
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two years old. He's taking a nap.

552
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: That's the only that's the only shot of him on

553
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: the plane as him will pass out of sleep, like

554
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: you know, somebody was there filming the entire time. That

555
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: like poor Ken.

556
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: First, this has to be like some come in and

557
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: deliver weird information sometimes and then they catch him sleeping

558
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: on the plane. But yeah, I did appreciate, like, no, no, James,

559
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: you and Alie can't come on the plane.

560
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: But this storyline is good enough that your dog can,

561
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: You're dog can. We're gonna bring it, the biting dog

562
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: to a rental property to be around a bunch of

563
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: our employees. Yeah, the biting dog. But I also think.

564
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Ali is just more worried that with the dog coming,

565
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: she's becoming like.

566
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: She's the new mom, she's the step mom. She's the stepmom.

567
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: But she's also like Raquel Junior, She's like racali 'calie,

568
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: Like what do you mean explain it?

569
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: Like now she is morphed into the same exact life.

570
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: Like they have this same dog, they have the same

571
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: that what else is there. They have the same boyfriend.

572
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: They have the same boyfriend. I'm sure they have the

573
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: same issues with the boyfriend. Yeah, and you can you

574
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: can see. I actually really like Allie as I continue

575
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: watching her. I think she's good on the show. Yeah,

576
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: because even when she says something that's a little shady,

577
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: then she immediately realizes and goes, I guess that was

578
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: kind of mean, but he he And that's how humans

579
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: actually are, right, We say shitty stuff and then sometimes

580
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: we regret it. It happens to me all the time. Yeah,

581
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: I mean, and then sometimes I don't regret it, and

582
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: I don't that out. Yeah, I mean sometimes I regret it. Yeah,

583
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, if we remember it, sometimes you

584
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: regret it.

585
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: Then we get to Santavala and shorts shopping for Tahoe outfits,

586
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: and shorts was sent to headlines about this is I mean,

587
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: this is amazing. As if the headlines are dropped at

588
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: the same exact time, He's like.

589
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: What whoa, whoa goo, Oh my gosh, wow, we're selling

590
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: The timing of this is so bananas. But she changed

591
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: her name from Raquel to Rachel, and then not three

592
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: minutes later, he's like, here's another one she's out of

593
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: the mental facility. And you see both times Sandoval knows

594
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: already right, which she is indicating that he talks to her,

595
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: so he already knows these things well. And then let's

596
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: also be clear, this means Shorts also knew already. Yes,

597
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: if Sandoval knew already, Shorts knew already exactly that acting

598
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: could have maybe been worked on just a touch maybe

599
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: or maybe they didn't.

600
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: Maybe they could have been like, let's talk about the

601
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: headlines that came out this week, right instead of it's

602
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: like breaking news.

603
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, breaking news, Like maybe there could have had more

604
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: because then the conversation kind of stopped. And I think

605
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: that's what the group has a problem with Shorts on

606
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: is like Shorts doesn't push Sandoval to share more like oh,

607
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: like at that point, I wanted to go, well, how

608
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 2: did you know she changed her name? Was that because

609
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: you saw the Google alert or because you talked to her?

610
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: Right right, You're like, is it because you saw it

611
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: or you actually spoke to her? And if you actually

612
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: spoke to her, what was the conversation about? When was

613
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: the conversation? How did you have it? Did you talk

614
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: on the phone?

615
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Was the text right, yeah, Because then we get to

616
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: the text messages and he says that now all of

617
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, the texts are blue or they have been green.

618
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: So now we're starting to guess that maybe they haven't talked.

619
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: But this is what I didn't like, and I know

620
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: I already tied to the center of the chat. But

621
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: we are shown one little snippet of a text that

622
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: Tom Sandoval sent to Rachel, and they read it, they show.

623
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: It to us. But then at that same point they

624
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: pan the phone and I see a bunch of little

625
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 2: texts and then two blue bubbles. What did a second

626
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: blue bubble say? We got a lot.

627
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if you got a lot of dms,

628
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: but I got a lot of dms saying that I

629
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: don't understand narcissistic behavior because I'm not understanding Rachel's boundaries

630
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: and these things. So what I want to know is,

631
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: was that second bubble Tom going off on her about

632
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: something like you're out and you haven't contacted me, what

633
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: the hell I'm in love with you?

634
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: My heart's broken? Was it gaslighting her or was it

635
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: just like yay, I see your phones on like something.

636
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: But then whatever it was, why did they choose not

637
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 2: to show it, is the question. Well, maybe it's because

638
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: they were talking and they were trying to figure out

639
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: if she was coming back on the show. That's what

640
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: I kept thinking.

641
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: Because the time, the one time I showed a text

642
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: message cropped on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, it was

643
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: because the next line was about it being on a

644
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: television show.

645
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: Oh, so you think I had something to do with

646
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: fourth wall type things? Thinking why they did, That's why

647
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: they asked and show it.

648
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing, like, are you going to come back

649
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: and film with us?

650
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: What's happening? Like blah blah blah. That is like, because

651
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm guessing that's when they were starting to do that

652
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: once she got out of the facility, is when she

653
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: went back for negotiations. Well, that would have made sense

654
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: that if he knew she was out, he would have

655
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: been asking, now that you're out, are you coming to

656
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: fill it? Yeah, that doesn't make sense. I mean that's

657
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: my guess. I mean, that's a good guess. That's that's

658
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: a good guess. I thought maybe it was something that

659
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: was definitive as to the end of their relationship, Like

660
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: she was like, I don't ever want to talk to

661
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: you again or something, or he said I don't want

662
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: to talk to you, or I don't know, But then

663
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: they didn't want to show it because they want to

664
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: keep leading you on the rest of the season. As

665
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: to whether there's any interaction with them or something, I

666
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: don't know.

667
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be about show related or

668
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: else they would any chance they could have gotten to

669
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: make Sandoval look bad or look in love with Raquel

670
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: or Rachel.

671
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: They would have. I actually did you I okay, I

672
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: don't know. It's just me and maybe there's something wrong

673
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: with me, but I actually feel badly for him when

674
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: he cries. Do you feel like any sympathy? Well, I

675
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: don't know, because maybe I probably can count on one

676
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: hand how many times I've seen Edwin Ariave cry. Yeah,

677
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 2: me too. About Shane, I think once in fifteen years.

678
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've been together fifteen years, and like

679
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: I've seen some really hard things happen in his life

680
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: or with his family or business or us or anything.

681
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: And I really, I maybe think it's three times. And

682
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: even when the crying is happening, he's not getting it's

683
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: not like he's getting a tissue and wiping his tears.

684
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: It's like I see the eyes like well up and

685
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: he's like trying to keep it together.

686
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

687
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that men can't cry. I'm just

688
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: saying four to five times this episode felt like a lot.

689
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know what's

690
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: wrong with me. Maybe I'm just getting softer in my

691
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: old age. But I actually, I don't know. I felt

692
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: some sympathy for him.

693
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel some sympathy towards him when he

694
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: saw the dog, Yeah, and I realized that he was

695
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: like shit or I felt a little sympathy for him

696
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: when he was trying to talk to James but and

697
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: crying in the car.

698
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't there yet, No, not in the car. No.

699
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: Because also I watched Special Forces, so I got to

700
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: see him cry lots of times on that show as well.

701
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: San I didn't watch that he cried on Special Forces, Yes,

702
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: but I mean I would cry, and I mean but

703
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: because it was because it was physically yeah, like when

704
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 2: I see you down right, I mean, I just don't

705
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: know that like him and Shorts having a conversation with

706
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: a car, yeah, it's all. Yeah, I don't know.

707
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: It just felt a little and then it was happening

708
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: again in the bathroom once they got like they showed

709
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: him wiping again his tears because somebody said hi to

710
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: him in the kitchen.

711
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was like, I don't know about

712
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 2: dish all right. Then we get to Sheena another shopping scene,

713
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: which we love, love the shopping. Love the shopping scene.

714
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: Sheen and Brock are shopping for bathing suits. She's anxious

715
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: about the trip because she's leaving Summer. She'll be staying

716
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 2: at the same house as Santaval, and she doesn't want

717
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: to hurt Ariana's feelings, but she still wants to go.

718
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: Then Tory. Tory is like a key player at this

719
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: point because soon I say we're doing the makeouts has

720
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: taken another job. We see Rock emphasizing that they can't

721
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: have Sheena's mom around twenty four to seven for the

722
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: rest of their lives. Sheena argues it's not twenty four

723
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: to seven and blames Brock for being content with hiring

724
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: some random stranger. Then Brock says he's trying to figure

725
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: out why Sheena thinks no one else is capable of

726
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: watching Summer other than her mom. He tells her your

727
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: mom makes you feel like you're not good enough, and

728
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: you go down this rabbit hole. So your mom doubles

729
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: down and reminds you that you're not a good enough parent,

730
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: and it makes you want to have that belief in

731
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: anyone else, not want to have that belief in anyone else. Yeah,

732
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: and then you see she that was like Sheena was

733
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: okay with the conversation, and then once you brought it

734
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: to that, I think, I.

735
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: Mean, do I think that I want a mother in

736
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: law all the time around?

737
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: No? Do you? I mean you seems pretty rad, but like, well,

738
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean I want her around all the time though. Yeah,

739
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: but I.

740
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 1: Also understand Sheena wanting her mom to watch her child when.

741
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: She's out of town. Yeah. I mean they both have

742
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: good points here. I mean, Brock's saying it doesn't have

743
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: to be your mom all the time, like why can't

744
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: it be someone else at some point? Like that's a

745
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: reasonable request. But then Sheen is saying, oh, so you

746
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: want to random stranger? Well, No, I don't think that's

747
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: what he's saying. He's saying, can we try someone else

748
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: and let them build up a rapport and then we

749
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: use someone else at certain points other than just your

750
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: mom all the time. So I mean they both make

751
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: they both have good points and good arguments. They need

752
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: to just be able to come to some middle, you know, compromise.

753
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: But then we have to dig a little deeper here.

754
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: I think two other things were like said in passing,

755
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: which was that I think Brock is taking on a

756
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: while Sheena is filming. I think Brock is taking on

757
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: a lot of the responsibility responsibility, and it's probably weighing

758
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: on him because he doesn't like he isn't a full

759
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: time ban of pump Rules paid person. I don't know

760
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: how much money he makes, but like it's not his

761
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: full time gig. So is it the same as housewives,

762
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: like if he's a husband, because you know, with housewives,

763
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: husbands don't get paid, so I assume he doesn't get paid, right,

764
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

765
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works because husbands also like

766
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: don't always go on I guess they do go on

767
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: trips on housewives, but I don't know.

768
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's paid like a friend of

769
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: I don't know, but interesting either way, you could tell

770
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: like he's like, you know, like we're going to need

771
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 2: some addition. It can't always be me or your mom,

772
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: I think was what he was trying to say.

773
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: But then when he started going in about her mom

774
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: making her feel like she's not good enough, I wondered, like,

775
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: is this some kind of private conversation that they've had

776
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: about the way that she grew up and something?

777
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, clearly, I mean there's clearly deeper issues there

778
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: that were not privy too, because I felt like that

779
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: just felt like it was kind of out of context

780
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: at that point, right, yeah, I mean, but also then

781
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: once we see Brock later at some point, I'm like,

782
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: Rock like playing it up for the cameras at this point, Well,

783
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: he does like a speedo. He does like a speedo. Yeah,

784
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it feels like a little.

785
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Boisterous at this point, like it's like I'm here to

786
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: put on a show and show my worth on this

787
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: television show.

788
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: And right, I don't always love when dudes that aren't

789
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: I don't know the part of the show, part of

790
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: the show to fully do that.

791
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: And I felt I felt for her in that moment,

792
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: like you just took something that didn't need to be

793
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: out there and put it.

794
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: Out there, right, Like we didn't make that piece of

795
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: the puzzle. I would have been fine with just your

796
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: mom's around too much. Yeah, that makes sense, Like I

797
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: feel like that's the level of conversation that should have been,

798
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: like can we find someone else to fill in occasionally

799
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: so it doesn't have to be your mom twenty four

800
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: to seven? And I get it. I'm sure he doesn't

801
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: want her around twenty four to seven, especially when doesn't

802
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: she I mean a couple episodes ago, she was telling

803
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: him she didn't like the way he was talking or something.

804
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean, she got in the middle of their conversation.

805
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: You know.

806
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's just a lot. It's probably tensions

807
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: are growing.

808
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: And I think when they first were together, they lived

809
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: in San Diego, they had this like their own situation.

810
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: And now, I mean, obviously things change when you have kids,

811
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: and I think they're going to go through learning curves.

812
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: And you know, that was the hardest part in my

813
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: marriage too, was.

814
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: Right after our first you know, like we just couldn't

815
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: we couldn't figure out the dynamic.

816
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: But why the hell do they make I don't know

817
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: who does this or why it happens, But when you

818
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: look at the same thing in the store eighty three

819
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: thousand times, we know, we know your options are the

820
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: two bikinis, the brown one and then the one with

821
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: the pattern, but like, just sit down and ask them

822
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 2: for a sparkling water and let's have a conversation in

823
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: the store. We don't believe that you want to wear

824
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: either of these bikinis. I had the one piece. I

825
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: guarantee we're not seeing you in that. I know, you

826
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: know what, I feel like, it's hard. I feel like

827
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: it's difficult to have the conversations they want you to

828
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: have when you're shopping, because then you're trying to have

829
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: a conversation and you're like, oh, I love these salt

830
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: and pepper shakers, Like it's it can be awkward.

831
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: It's awkward, and then it's also she once she got annoyed,

832
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: then she's like, we wouldn't normally be fighting about this

833
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: in a store in the store, and I think that.

834
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 2: Was meant for an off camera situation, Like she didn't

835
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: think that part would be you right. Yeah.

836
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: But Brock oh, Brock has said in an interview that

837
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: he does get paid for the show.

838
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: Rumors are that it's ten thousand dollars an episode. Who

839
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: knows if that's true. Wow, But I mean that's pretty

840
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: good money for That's why he's like, that's why he's

841
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: amping up his game, and he's wearing the you know,

842
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: I mean the Ana hammock. I mean, I don't know.

843
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 2: That was a lot for me.

844
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: Then, you know, we get everyone being apprehensive about the

845
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: Tahoe ship and shown again helping Tom pick out an outfit,

846
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: and then he says, well, he look okay if he

847
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: gets stabbed, and then Anne had a moment. He just

848
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: said she was picturing a bloody dead Tom. She wasn't

849
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: mad about it.

850
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, at least the blood would blend men, all right.

851
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: So James and Ali are packing for Tahoe. It was

852
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: too late to add Graham to their flight ticket, so

853
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: James dropped him off with Lisa, who's taking him on

854
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: her private jet, which we talked about already. Yeah, James

855
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: and Alli are nervous to have Graham around Sandoval. He

856
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: probably hung out with the dog more than they realize.

857
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: And that's what I also then started wondering, is the

858
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: amount that they are talking about Rachel and Sandoval's relationship

859
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: and the dog and all of that. I don't know,

860
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: it just starting to feel weird to me, Like, what

861
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: do you mean, like like I if I was with James, Yes,

862
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 2: if James was my boyfriend and he used to be

863
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: engaged to Rachel Rachel, and now I have the dog,

864
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: I think I wouldn't really talk about her other relates,

865
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: Like if I was the new girlfriend, I would just

866
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: keep it to like, all right, let's see how the

867
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 2: dog works out with our family. I wouldn't keep bringing

868
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: up Rachel. Right, but who knows?

869
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: Then we get we already talked about the sand of

870
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: all facetimes her while they're driving, right.

871
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: He cries. We talked about that, Okay. I guess what

872
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: I meant was I felt sorry for him when he

873
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: cried in his confessionals, but I didn't understand why he

874
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: was crying, Like someone really gets me upset when I

875
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: see a man in a green suit and green and

876
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: a studio crying. I don't know when I do. When

877
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: I do interviews, I cry a lot too, So I

878
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: just felt like I cry all the time. But I

879
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: don't know, I just I don't know. Maybe he was

880
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: maybe he was really having a big SOB. Maybe he

881
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: was having a moment.

882
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: And I love that you've now edited what you originally thought,

883
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: even though originally you were sad that he cried with Shorts.

884
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: Now, no, no, I think I forgot about that part.

885
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: I just picture him in that green suit doing his

886
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: interview crying. That's what I picture, right right right. Uh.

887
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: Then they arrived to the beach house, the Tahoe Beach House,

888
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: and Shorts doesn't want to jinx anything, but he's hopeful

889
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: they become a big, happy family.

890
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: And it'd all be thanks to him. Yeah, I mean,

891
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: because he is the hero in this. He facilitated it.

892
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: He brought everybody together. I feel like he wants like

893
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: a he wants like a pat on the shoulder. He

894
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: wants I mean, but in his point, he's the only

895
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: one that could do that. I guess maybe No, he

896
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: really is the only one that it could have done

897
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: is the bridge, so he had to make it happen.

898
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: He is a bridge. So we appreciated it. Yeah. Uh.

899
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: Then we get some more teeny bikini action.

900
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: Then they're out at the pier Sandoval thanks to the

901
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: group for being so nice to him. He mentioned his

902
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: friend Shannon will be there tomorrow morning to do a

903
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: guided meditation. James was like, where the hell is my

904
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,959
Speaker 1: CBD drinks? At this point in time, because I can't

905
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: even take this.

906
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: You know what, I don't like that stuff either. You

907
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 2: do right? You like to meditate and have like peaceful moments. See,

908
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: I'm more of a I don't know. I would rather

909
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 2: just I like the breaking the wall shit, Like I

910
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: like that when they were when they had the hammers

911
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: and the what is that? It's not a hammer? What

912
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: is a floodchhammer? That's a sledhammer. Yeah, let me be clear.

913
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: I like to meditate in my home, in my bed

914
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 1: for five minutes and like try to get my anxiety together.

915
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: But meditating with a bunch of people I'm fighting with, right,

916
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: it's going to make things better, Like on a vacation

917
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem right. No, if you're going to like

918
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,240
Speaker 1: a health retreat or you're doing this or doing whatever,

919
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: or you're with a group of like minded people where

920
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: you feel like or but forcing people to do do

921
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: anything never works out.

922
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 2: Exercise meditating, it's like it's not going to go well.

923
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: Then Brock seems excited but feels then you know, James

924
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: feels the opposite. Lalla applaud Sandoval for working on himself

925
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: and says it's admirable after everything he's done I loved

926
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: Lalla this episode.

927
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. I really like what she says.

928
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: It's not a lot, but when she says it, it's

929
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: it's precise and it's profound, where everyone else is kind

930
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: of like, you know, and it takes a while to

931
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: get to the point, just go straight there. And I

932
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: appreciate that. But when who is it that called standible

933
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: mister tryhard? Oh? Is it James the Yeah? But I

934
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: don't know, did you think it was fair to call

935
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: him mister tryhard? Because I feel like that's hypocritical because

936
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: they want him, You're asking him to try hard, right,

937
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: they forget him to try hard, and then when he

938
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: tries hard, he makes fun of him and calls him

939
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: mister try hard, and I'm like, the guy is this

940
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: It's just a lose lose for him? At this point,

941
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 2: You're like, you want all these things from him, you

942
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: want attention, you want apology. So he tries to do

943
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 2: things like that and then you're like, oh, mister try

944
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: hard and it's like, oh pathetic, what a loser? Right?

945
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but then this then then Lisa comes in,

946
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: we talk about it, the dog comes in. They've decided

947
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: to rename the dog. It's it's such a better name too,

948
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: I mean, oh yeah, I mean it was really a

949
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: step up. And then Allie makes the joke that the

950
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: joke to sand Like, of all the people to make

951
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: the joke to Allie, I'm not sure Sandoval.

952
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 2: Was the right audience, Like I know your audience. Yeah,

953
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: Like Sandoval already looks sadder than like the person. Like

954
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: he's like sees the dog.

955
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: He's like, he obviously doesn't seem like he has a

956
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: big connection with the dog because he mentions that the

957
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: dog has been multiple people, right, you see him even

958
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: like brush off the dog hair even though the dog's hypoallergenic,

959
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: like all of it. It's all playing out. But then

960
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: Ali goes, well, I mean, if Rachel can rename herself,

961
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: why can't we rename hippie right?

962
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: Hah. She was waiting for like a haha, she got

963
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: nothing and he was like no reaction.

964
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: She faced and then she's like, guess that was kind

965
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: of mean, But then she liked it enough then she

966
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: needed to tell James that she did it right.

967
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, that that happened. Then we get to.

968
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: Ariana facetiming the designer, which I know you've reached a

969
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: low point in the episode when every scene, the only

970
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: scenes that you're in are when you're facetiming other people.

971
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not even about what's going on on

972
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: the show. It's about your furniture.

973
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: It's about your furniture that at this point, like the

974
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: fact that you would even consider for one second having a.

975
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: Lego Lego artwork reworked reworked is problematic for me. Like

976
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 2: I have a nine year old son named Luke who

977
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: loves legos. If you want to ship that Arianna over

978
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: to my house, that kid will rework it for you.

979
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, he does like five Lego sets a day.

980
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: Send it my way and lout mind work it.

981
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: Do you think he could utilize because she is blonde

982
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: and he is brunette? Do you think that Luke could

983
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: metamorphose that artwork?

984
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: And to me, yes, I think he could. I think

985
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: there are enough pieces and enough different colors that I

986
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: could be stand the Ball and you could be Arianna

987
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: and I will hang it right here behind me Arianna,

988
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: Send it my way. How much would it cost for

989
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: us to get that painting?

990
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: Also, how much should it I mean that the Lego set,

991
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: how much should it cost in general?

992
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, but apparently a lot because

993
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: the thing hanging from the ceiling was expensive, So I

994
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: don't know.

995
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: I do have to say this, if I was going

996
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: to share my living quarters with my ex that I

997
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: no longer am interested in, that is something I would

998
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: take down straight away and keep.

999
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: No, Like I would not have that in the house anymore.

1000
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: Like if we're well, you're talking about the lego, not

1001
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: the chandelier thing, No leg picture, not the chandelier with

1002
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 2: no lights, No the lego picture, Like I wouldn't want

1003
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: to walk by it every day, like it like I

1004
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: don't keep in mind she take the legos off of

1005
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: his face at least so yeah, or like put a.

1006
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: Friendship lamp there with her boyfriend right over his head,

1007
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't want to see that photo every day.

1008
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: Then Brock apologizes to Shena, which I thought was an

1009
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: actual apology.

1010
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: It was. I thought it was a good, genuine apology

1011
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: about it being wrong place, round, wrong time totally and.

1012
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: Saying we're going to put a pin in this because

1013
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad he did do it, because for a minute there,

1014
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: I was like, shit, these two aren't going to make

1015
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: it like they were like at each other.

1016
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: I know, were they fighting about laundry when they were

1017
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: in the and she was even been like mad at

1018
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: him because he doesn't let her do the laundry. I

1019
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 2: was like, I've never had that argument with Shane, like,

1020
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: stop doing your own laundry. I'll do it, like I've

1021
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: never said that in my life.

1022
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really honest. I give two shits of

1023
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: Edwin's underwear turned pink because you watched it with something else,

1024
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: like that's on him.

1025
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: I don't care what color is underwear. I know Shane

1026
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 2: has pink socks, a pink hoodie, and it's all because

1027
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: of the housewife, I mean the housekeeper. I don't care.

1028
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be like, oh, I'm so sorry

1029
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: that's pink. Let me do your laundry for me. Let

1030
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: me take control. Oh you didn't like your Postmads Sinner,

1031
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: let me cook you something up. Don't you post again.

1032
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: I'll make sure that I got you covered next time.

1033
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: In the formal dining room, that is where we will

1034
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: eat it, and we will enjoy every second of it.

1035
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I did think it was a genuine apology.

1036
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: I do think they're just going it's you know, the

1037
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: highs and lows of after you have a kid exactly

1038
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: and figuring it out. Then they all go to visit

1039
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: he sat at the Wolf.

1040
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: The Wolf. It's going to be beautiful. It looks like

1041
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: you know the other restaurants. I think it's going to

1042
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: turn into something great. But then they go to the

1043
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: what they another restaurant, right they do the rage room

1044
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: or the they hit the thing with the sledgehammer? Right?

1045
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: Which what would you have yelled? A few were them?

1046
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking that, but I did, like

1047
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: what sand of all yelled? Wasn't he just yelling off

1048
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: everything that He's like worm with a mustache with the

1049
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: mustache greater. But then he was like la la, and

1050
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 2: she's like, what's like, what about some of the ship

1051
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: you've done? You know, like so that's how they ended.

1052
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, scumbag cheaters Charles oh Lanson's son, and oh

1053
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: I said that, Yeah, She's like that was my line,

1054
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: thank you. But she did make another good point, like

1055
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 2: he isn't calling out any of his actions, which you know,

1056
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: maybe Scannaval was his actions. I don't know, I don't

1057
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: really know. It's in his head I don't know. I mean,

1058
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: he did say narcissist, and he did say liar, and

1059
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: he did say cheater, right, But I guess he was

1060
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: saying in a way where those were things that other

1061
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: people said about him and he wasn't really saying it

1062
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: about himself. I don't know. I don't know either. But

1063
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: then they all go out to another dinner. Lisa has

1064
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: another outfit change, and which they're all like, wow, third

1065
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: outphabit change.

1066
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: Then they panned to all three outfits, like I want

1067
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: to make sure she gets her screen time, no matter

1068
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: if it's just outfit changes, they're not more times with wolves.

1069
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: And then everyone starts hounding Shorts for saying he's single,

1070
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: oh because remember Short said.

1071
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: Single at forty when he had the sledge Oh yeah,

1072
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: with the sledgehamber. But he seems to be but he

1073
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: sounds like he's fine as single at forty because he

1074
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 2: says he's not ready to He says he's not ready

1075
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: to mingle because he's probably getting it in with Joe

1076
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: and that's fine for now, and he's telling Joe. He

1077
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: knows that Joe's going to watch this, and he needs

1078
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: to make it very clear he's not ready to be

1079
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 2: in a relationship, right, or he's just secretly in love

1080
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: with Lala because there was that awkward conversation between the

1081
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 2: two of them at the pole. But he's like, you're

1082
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. But you know,

1083
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: like as a friend, you're the most amazing creature I've

1084
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 2: ever laid eyes on. But just as friends, and.

1085
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: The sexiest lips I've ever seen. Even though I made

1086
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: fun with him, but as a platonic way, but he did.

1087
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: There was some other chemistry type thing that they had.

1088
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: I actually wouldn't even hate if those two ended up together.

1089
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: No, I think it would be cute. I mean kind

1090
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: be as a dad. I think he would be a

1091
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: good dad. I think he would be like the fun,

1092
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: goofy dad, but a Disneyland dad. Well no, not like

1093
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: at Disneyland. I think he would be a good, committed dad.

1094
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: But I think he would just be like he wouldn't

1095
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: be like the disciplinarian dad. No, but I think you know.

1096
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: Then Lisa raises a two host and telling James to

1097
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: say one nice thing about Sandoval.

1098
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: He struggles to come up with something and then finally

1099
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: settles in was saying it's nice that we're all sitting

1100
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: at a.

1101
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: Table together, and actually it was fine with that versus

1102
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: some response, right right, And then Sandoval explains the living

1103
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: situation to everyone, mentioning that he's offered to buy Ariana

1104
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 1: out and the fact that they have not spoken since

1105
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: the reunion.

1106
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1107
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: But then Lisa calling Shorts out because of the dirty martini.

1108
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: She's like, why didn't you order the vander pump Rose?

1109
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: Did you see Hallie? She's like, are you not following

1110
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: the script? What is your problem?

1111
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: Like, what what are you doing here? You don't even

1112
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: go here anymore? Stand of all knows james behavior is

1113
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: due to the fact that he's hurt, so he pulls

1114
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: him aside so they can talk privately. James points out

1115
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 2: that Sandival could have been the things with Arianna before

1116
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: getting together with Rachel, and that wouldn't have been nearly

1117
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: as catastrophic. It comes down to Sandibal not having the

1118
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: guts to end his relationship. I mean, yeah, that's a

1119
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: good point, Like, clearly end your relationship with the person

1120
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: that you're committed to and that you live with before

1121
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: having an affair with somebody else. I mean, I mean,

1122
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: but I have done a lot of research on like cheating,

1123
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: and I think this is very I'm not justifying it,

1124
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: you guys. I'm saying that oftentimes people will cheat because

1125
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 2: they don't have the balls to actually end it, and

1126
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: they hope they're going to get caught. Okay, you like

1127
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: true crime. I feel like there's so many men that

1128
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: will actually murder their wives before coming clean that they

1129
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: have a mistress. And I'm like, dude, like you just

1130
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: had to get divorced. You didn't have to murder her

1131
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: just because you don't want to disappoint the person. Or

1132
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: I think what he wasn't able to say was like

1133
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: I didn't want to disappoint the fans. We've done books together,

1134
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: We've given the illusion that we're such this great couple,

1135
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: and I just wasn't ready to throw in the towel

1136
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: on that and be the bad guy. So I just

1137
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: became the worst guy ever. So I just I just

1138
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: basically ruined my entire life. I just blew everything up.

1139
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: Now I'm a frozen embryo on SNL. You know what,

1140
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at life. I'm a frozen embryo and

1141
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: a pig and a worm with a mustache, winning, winning,

1142
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: But then Sandoval says, you know, there is a true

1143
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: moment with him and James. So they talk about their

1144
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 2: friendship and then that's when they go down memory lane

1145
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: where you kind of see that James is he's coming

1146
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: around with well, he's coming around, but you see how

1147
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: much James really liked Sandoval right at one point, and

1148
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: then you remember that Sandoval paid for a portion of

1149
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: like the engagement party between oh yeah, Rael and James James,

1150
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 2: and we see all the messiness. But then James asked

1151
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: the question something along the lines of like how are

1152
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: you feeling? And Sandoval says he's torn between resentment and

1153
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: love with Rachel right now and he doesn't know where

1154
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: they stand. And I I thought in that moment that

1155
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: was the most real I had seen Tom. Yeah, I agree,

1156
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: it was like a finally a level of real vulnerability.

1157
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he like he could have given James the like, no,

1158
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: I've done with it, or she's the love of my life,

1159
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 1: but yeah, been over the top.

1160
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: But he was like, you know what, I really don't know.

1161
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I think I.

1162
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 1: Love her, but she left me in this mess. Whether

1163
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: she did or not, she's setting her boundaries getting healthy.

1164
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but that's how he felt. And

1165
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: then James talks about how he thought Sandoval would be

1166
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: the last man in Hollywood to ever betray him.

1167
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, I was like, wait, whoa, I'm sorry called

1168
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: vander Pump Rules and you're all on it to essentially

1169
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: cause drama, and you thought he was the last hmm,

1170
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: So James isn't a good judge of character. That's what

1171
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: I came away with.

1172
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I also came away with He's coming

1173
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: around and for the first time that we've seen on

1174
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: this show, Santaval is finally taking a little bit of

1175
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: accountability and James admits he is missing parts of their relationships.

1176
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: And then James jitters the entire episode gave me a.

1177
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: Little bit of anxiety. Did he I didn't notice that? Yeah?

1178
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: Oh he twitches a lot. You mean he's having withdrawals?

1179
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying?

1180
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: That's no, No, that's a housewife trick what you just

1181
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 1: did right there.

1182
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: And like that said, no, see, I know I'm really

1183
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: good at that stuff. You know. I never asked a

1184
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: question that I don't know the answer to.

1185
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, you guys, that is another episode of popping

1186
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: off with thanks.

1187
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: For joining us us US Emily Simpson and Teddy Mellencamp.

1188
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 2: I said my name first this time. You know what

1189
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 2: you nailed it. I nailed it. It was a nice

1190
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: ring to it, and thank you. Soon you'll see us

1191
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: on a lego artwork. Yes, coming soon done, I look

1192
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: hear you. By bye bye