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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday May eighteenth, twenty twenty, and it is time,

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Speaker 1: Donks for Morning Combat. Hi there, My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I am one half of your hosting duo. I am

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Speaker 1: joined by the gentleman on the other side of your screen.

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Speaker 1: He is my friend and yours. You know him from

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Speaker 1: one and only Brian Campbell. Hi Brian, top of the

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Speaker 1: morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Oh Luke, I'm hearing you a remix style there. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: You can't keep finish finish your a weird intro. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You want you zoom in on, Luke, I'll fix my

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Speaker 2: I think the deeper you go in that show, Luke,

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Speaker 1: Let's go right now to part one, if we can so.

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Speaker 1: UFC Florida is in the books. Alistair Overreim gets a win.

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Speaker 1: He defeats Walt Harris via second round TKO. Now here's

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Speaker 1: Yes, I will leave the zoom call Rejoy take it

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Speaker 2: eight nights. This heavyweight tilt certainly had that emotional potential

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Speaker 2: The size, the explosiveness, six ' five big ticket coming

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Speaker 2: But we know what heavyweight is, right, it's a little

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Speaker 2: All right? I scored two rounds to one for Clausa. Now,

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Speaker 2: look it comes down to that third round. Whoever won

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Speaker 2: You know, this could have been her fourth victory in

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Speaker 2: Why she landed the bigger damage. She bloodied Claudia up,

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Speaker 2: mma scoring is basic. It's round by round who won.

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Speaker 2: Claudia won two of the three rounds. That's that's what

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Speaker 2: That third round decided it. You're really weighing Hill's consistency

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Speaker 2: He dropped Keith. He did all that, But it's a

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Speaker 2: which what it is? Ten to nine must scoring system

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Speaker 2: ten to eight if it's a dominant round. I didn't

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Speaker 1: All right. So I had it twenty nine to twenty

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Speaker 2: the show, it's over, it's not working. Our peeps threw

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Speaker 2: She did not show it in the end, Luke. She

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Speaker 1: Yeah, If anything, it just reminded you of the development

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Speaker 1: Egay defeats Edson Barboza. Now, this one was highly disputed,

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Speaker 1: what it means for both competitors here in a second,

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Speaker 1: But the decision how it was weighed the fight itself.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Uh? The judges got it right again, close ass fight,

432
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 2: two rounds to one for Ega. Look, Barboza showed you

433
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Speaker 2: in round one exactly who he is, which means he's

434
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Speaker 2: a dominant striker who took the gamble of moving down

435
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Speaker 2: in wait and was clearly the bigger man and landed

436
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Speaker 2: the most telling blow of that first round now. I

437
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Speaker 2: think the most important strike though, of that first round

438
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Speaker 2: was Egay getting up and landing the flying knee and

439
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Speaker 2: letting Barbosa know this is not going to be a

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Speaker 2: walk through. But from there, Luke, I gave Egay the

441
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Speaker 2: next two rounds and I think again disputed decision. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it comes down to that third round. It was a

443
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Speaker 2: fairly even round. I just saw Ega as the guy

444
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Speaker 2: who went after it, and that's the key in the end,

445
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Speaker 2: the activity, the intention, the aggression. He really came out

446
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Speaker 2: of his shell here because yeah, he had a five

447
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Speaker 2: fight win streak coming in, but none of those were

448
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Speaker 2: against the class of Barboa, the potential danger of Barbosa.

449
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: He showed you the heart, the IQ, the poise, everything

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Speaker 2: you need to see. Yes, that's a clean but close

451
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Speaker 2: win for Dan Egay. If you had it for Barbosa,

452
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Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you don't know how to score. But again,

453
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Speaker 2: can we stop with the robbery here? From this fight

454
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Speaker 2: all the way down even to song you dong, these

455
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Speaker 2: are close fights, Luke, it's what you preferred in the end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had this one. I was on the

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Speaker 1: opposite side of you. I thought that I was glad

458
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Speaker 1: to see Dan wayn in the sense that I know

459
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Speaker 1: he's a nice guy, has worked really hard. I had

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Speaker 1: thought that Edson had done enough in the end to

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Speaker 1: merit it. But I gotta tell you when the fight

462
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Speaker 1: was over and we can talk about what it means

463
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Speaker 1: for Fretherway here in just a second. My big takeaway

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Speaker 1: from this one was I did not think that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: first of all, Edson looked huge at one forty five,

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Speaker 1: and I thought Dan continues to get better incrementally fight

467
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Speaker 1: over fight over fight over fight. He really is a

468
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Speaker 1: case study and what it means to improve in real time.

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Speaker 1: But for Barbosa, here's what I learned about Barboza in

470
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Speaker 1: this one. He's trying to refresh things. At one Paul

471
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Speaker 1: Felders like the dude was eating pastas and baked potatoes

472
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Speaker 1: like it was nothing at one to fifty five. He

473
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Speaker 1: can make it easier than you might think. Okay, fine,

474
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Speaker 1: he can make it easier than we think. It's not

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Speaker 1: that much of a drain. It's not like Aldo going

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Speaker 1: to one thirty five, which seemed damn near impossible, you

477
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Speaker 1: know if you had watched the Mark Comenic fight. On

478
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Speaker 1: the other hand, I don't think every fighter can do

479
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Speaker 1: what Dan E. Gay did, which is to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: get in his face, slug it out with him, take

481
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Speaker 1: some big shots, show resiliency, push back the whole nine yards.

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Speaker 1: I don't think every fighter can do that in that division,

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Speaker 1: but I'll say this, the ones that can all are

484
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Speaker 1: going to. The blueprint for how to beat Edson is

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Speaker 1: known at this point, and I don't again, let me

486
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Speaker 1: be clear about this, it's not that, oh it's the bluepoint.

487
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Speaker 1: Everybody could just go look at it and then go

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Speaker 1: execute it. I don't think that's true. But I think

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Speaker 1: that if Danny Gay, who is a surging town that

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Speaker 1: division could at least get as close as he did,

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Speaker 1: and maybe for some people cross the finish line, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be most folks above him that are probably gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to execute that on some kind of a

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Speaker 1: reasonable level, which is to say, you might be getting

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Speaker 1: some fresh matchups and he might get some big wins

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Speaker 1: down there. But this idea of crowding his space, of

497
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Speaker 1: getting inside boxing range, of pushing him backwards, of never

498
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Speaker 1: letting him get rest, they're all going to follow this now.

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Speaker 1: So you're running from the problems at one fifty five,

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Speaker 1: and there's probably some fresh territory at one forty five,

501
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Speaker 1: but probably not like he hopes there would be BC

502
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Speaker 1: And for that reason, I don't know how much I

503
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Speaker 1: liked this one forty five move all that much.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it at all, Luke. I'd love to

505
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Speaker 2: be able to debate you on the opposite side, but

506
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Speaker 2: Barbosa does not belong at this weight class. It took

507
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Speaker 2: on it. It sucked on his gas tank way too much.

508
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: You saw that. Yeah, he did gut it out to

509
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Speaker 2: make that third round competitive where it was essentially kind

510
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Speaker 2: of a flip him round. But yet at the same time,

511
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Speaker 2: I felt like you saw corners of being diminished in

512
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Speaker 2: terms of you're waiting for that natural explosion to come,

513
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Speaker 2: but it's not there because it's too much of a

514
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Speaker 2: sacrifice on his body against the very elite. Barbosa has

515
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: a great chin and a great will right we saw him.

516
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Speaker 2: I mean, how the hell did he go the distance

517
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: against Habib? It was almost criminal the abuse he took.

518
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna take a lot of abuse, I think at featherweight.

519
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 2: The only thing is like the strikes won't be as heavy,

520
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: He'll be able to endure them. But it's all gonna

521
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 2: add up over time. I think it's just bad luck.

522
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: Here's a great fight. You know, a really good fighter

523
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 2: who has shown you flashes of greatness in his career.

524
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Speaker 2: He just happens to be in the deepest and most

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Speaker 2: dangerous division before this fight in UFC history, where a

526
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Speaker 2: guy that talented could lose foar out of his last

527
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Speaker 2: five against the very, very best. It is what it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he can't continue at featherweight and think

529
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Speaker 2: maybe I have a shorter path to a title, but

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Speaker 2: I think we know how it's gonna end, Luke. I

531
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Speaker 2: think we know the end of the book here, and

532
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's kind of sad, but it is

533
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Speaker 2: what it is.

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Speaker 1: Well again, I wouldn't want to say he can't get

535
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Speaker 1: nice wins at that weight class. He probably can. I

536
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Speaker 1: just don't think a reinvention is exactly possible down a

537
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Speaker 1: weight class. It's just too tough for him at this point.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we go to our next point now,

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Speaker 1: which is let's wrap up everything BC three UFC shows

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Speaker 1: in eight days in Jacksonville, Florida. As I slide to

541
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Speaker 1: the right here like a true pro, what kind of

542
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: grade can we say about overall with what the UFC

543
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: is doing. There were the events, there were some of

544
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Speaker 1: the controversies, the safety protocol and everything in between. What

545
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: would you say, if I may go first on this one, BC,

546
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: go ahead. I think the events and I'm pretty sure

547
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Speaker 1: you'll agree with this. The fights themselves brutal. Jesus Christ.

548
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Speaker 1: They were absolutely brutal, And I don't know if they

549
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: were just brutal because brutal.

550
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Speaker 2: In a good way, Luke, brutal in an inject me

551
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Speaker 2: sort of way. They were awesome, Luke.

552
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Speaker 1: Well, well, hold on, the Anthony Smith fight was brutal,

553
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: not in a good way. I don't think you can

554
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Speaker 1: really make that case. I mean, that was that was

555
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: very very bad. So it's not entirely true. But the

556
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Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make is if you were watching

557
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Speaker 1: as a fan in general, you really got either what

558
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: you paid for a UFC two forty nine or what

559
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: you paid for in terms of your time to just

560
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: watch it. I would give them a very high grade.

561
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: I say AA minus something like that. Very good. In

562
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Speaker 1: terms of the safety protocol, they didn't really adhere to

563
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Speaker 1: a lot of it. I actually read the full document

564
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Speaker 1: that the that the new York Times have picked up

565
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: and what they matched it with data, White declaring victory

566
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Speaker 1: that no one ever got sick. The reality is probably

567
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: that's true. Probably that's true. You don't actually know because

568
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: there's an incubation period for two weeks and they only

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Speaker 1: test them when they got up there. They never tested

570
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Speaker 1: them right before or after the fights, So we actually

571
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Speaker 1: have no idea if in fact that it's going to

572
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Speaker 1: be the case. We didn't test them when they got

573
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Speaker 1: home after they traveled, which, by the way, is you know,

574
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Speaker 1: you're in this middle tube of recycled air. Again, these

575
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: are all risk that everyone's wanting to take. But I'll

576
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: say this, there is a beginning of this movement towards

577
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Speaker 1: getting back to it. You had NASCAR have an event

578
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Speaker 1: yesterday where they actually did mind their social distancing cues,

579
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Speaker 1: but they didn't even test for COVID nineteen at this event,

580
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: so that was really weird. Then you have Major League

581
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Speaker 1: Baseball proposing a set of safety proposals, which, by the way, BC,

582
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you read it. I actually went

583
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Speaker 1: through yesterday. I'd read them. All boy, they got a

584
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: much tougher task than the UFC does to try to

585
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: get that right, they had to have a whole travel

586
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Speaker 1: restriction setup that that mean is just crazy to deal with.

587
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: So I'll say this in terms of I think what

588
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: the UFC wanted, they have to consider this either a

589
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: home run or a stand up triple something pretty close.

590
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: They have not crossed the finish line, I think in

591
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Speaker 1: the way that they have. I think COVID safety protocol

592
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: is going to be an ongoing challenge, which I think

593
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: you would agree with. But in terms of did Jacksonville

594
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: provide the UFC with the kickstart that they were looking for,

595
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: either for the national conversation or to get their fights going,

596
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: or to just give the UFC some shine, Yes, yes

597
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: it does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big time, big time. I mean, look, you know again,

599
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 2: fourth wall removed. I'm all over my day job at

600
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: CBS Sports HQ, the live streaming network, given UFC updates

601
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: Saturday night. I'm in the studio fight by fight, voicing highlights,

602
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: giving updates. I mean, it was the only game in town.

603
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: So while Dana was asked afterwards, you know, do you

604
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: think you gain new fans during this, and he was like,

605
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 2: I don't care about that, And whether that's true or not,

606
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: they did. They had to have because oh, by the way,

607
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: the three fight cards kick, it's a ton of ass Luke.

608
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: It were really exciting. They filled a void that we

609
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: all sort of needed, which was obviously live sports, something

610
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: that felt important. That was a perfect distraction. I think

611
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: the fighters all sort of rallied together to raise the

612
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: level of intensity in these fights despite the potential distraction

613
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: of an empty arena and everything going on with this.

614
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: And I know what you said. You know, they were

615
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: sort of like, well, no one got sick, you know,

616
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: we're good. Well, that's kind of what fight promotion is.

617
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: It's sort of like nobody died, let's good, Let's go

618
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: to the next town. I know that sounds brutal and ridiculous,

619
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 2: but it's a gamble to put on fight cards and

620
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: fight in this sport. It's also a gamble to be

621
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: the first ones to go out there and try to

622
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Speaker 2: implement a COVID safety protocol and pull it off. Did

623
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Speaker 2: they have hiccups? Yes? Are there certain Are they just

624
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: going to find their own groove in terms of trying

625
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: to prevent this and hope it doesn't break out? Yes,

626
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: they probably will. But I think they accomplished a lot,

627
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: meaning that there's no major black eye. Yes, Jockaray got

628
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: sick and so did his team, and now they figured out, okay,

629
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Speaker 2: we need to be a little it's safer there. Yes, there

630
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: was the what I think is a you know, legitimate

631
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Speaker 2: issue with the whole non disparagement clause when it comes

632
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Speaker 2: to media. Hopefully that is something that does not continue

633
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: or you know, even guys like you and me would

634
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: have to question whether it's worth it to go cover

635
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: a fight under those sort of you know, those guidelines

636
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 2: which are just ridiculous. But larger picture, this was meant

637
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Speaker 2: from a pro sports standpoint. In my mind, they were

638
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Speaker 2: the guinea pig, and they were willing to be the

639
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Speaker 2: guinea pig, probably for financial reasons, but they were willing

640
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Speaker 2: to Well. It worked. So it's no surprise that as

641
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Speaker 2: soon as that first and second card of the past

642
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: eight days went off without too much of a problem,

643
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: boxing promoters are given an interview saying, yep, we got

644
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: we gotta comeback date. Pro sports are trying to figure

645
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: it out. Yes, it all was successful. At the end

646
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: of the day, it felt great to watch these fights.

647
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: They were great. At some point, Luke, we do have to,

648
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: you know, clap a little bit and say, Dana's craziness,

649
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: his persistence, you know, it fuels our daily job. And

650
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: at this at the same time he pulled it off.

651
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 2: You know, Oh, he was reckless for a pretty damn while.

652
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 2: You know that sound bite in the Iola interview of

653
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: him saying bring it on Corona, like, I'm never gonna

654
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: outlive that ridiculousness, Luke. But as a whole, they did

655
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: something great I think for people, and they just happen

656
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: to have people that are willing to take these crazy

657
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: chances to do it. They can keep doing it relatively safe.

658
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: More power to them.

659
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking to see a more refined product and

660
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: a more refined system. I mean, I'm almost hoping that

661
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: the restrictions in Nevada get lifted because I actually think

662
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: that once they get going at apd Apex Center, where

663
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: they have just total command and control of everything, I

664
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: actually tend to believe that that will be the best

665
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: for just quieting all the criticism because there won't be

666
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: as much criticism to make. Quite candidly, the one thing

667
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: I would like to push back on a little bit

668
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: is this idea about did they get new fans Now

669
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: we had thought they had done seven hundred thousand buys

670
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: for UC two forty nine, because that was what was

671
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: reported to be clear, there was some interest around it.

672
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: But then when you look at the prelim ratings, they

673
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: were less than the prelim ratings for UFC two forty eight.

674
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what the ratings were from Wednesday. I

675
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: guess wan't have to go and see, but I don't

676
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: recall them being spectacular again for Saturday. We'll see. I

677
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: saw I saw a lot of people giving a verbal

678
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: nod who are sports fans in UFC for coming back?

679
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: But no one I know who didn't watch. All of

680
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: a sudden did the idea that they built new fans,

681
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean marginally, which again that I don't think that

682
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: that really matters in the end. This was this whole

683
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: experiment was not about let's get new fans. If they

684
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: had gotten new fans, that would have been a bonus.

685
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: So that's only the that's the only discrepancy we're really

686
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: making here. I'm just not of the belief, like dude,

687
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: if you don't like Bundesliga or soccer, the fact that

688
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: it was on is not and there's nothing else on

689
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: on a Saturday morning is not going to change your opinion.

690
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: Either you like fighting or you don't like fighting. I

691
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: think people may have appreciated UFC more in an abstract way.

692
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: I just don't buy that there's new fans.

693
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: Well, while the basis of your argument is right, like,

694
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go out of my way to

695
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: find Bundesliga or Korean Baseball on some online stream. This

696
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: is ESPN though, this is like front and center. I'm

697
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: flipping through the channels. I'm average Joe sports fan. Oh,

698
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: what's on the ESPNS tonight. Oh it's them cage fighters. Honey, honey,

699
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: grab grab me of the Schaeffer. It's the one bear

700
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: to have when it's time to have some fun. Yeah. No,

701
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: I look, yeah, it probably happened. Okay if you went

702
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: on certain you know, websites or watch sports recap shows.

703
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: It's the only sport that's getting recapped. So all in all,

704
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: it was a win for them. But Luke, let's not

705
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: try to act like it wasn't. Let's get the train

706
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: back on the tracks. Let's fulfill our TV dates because

707
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: that's where the money is for everyone to get paid,

708
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: not just the fighters but us. By the way, Jay all,

709
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: Jay deep in my coch Lee Eye trying to get

710
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: us out of here. Luke, are you gonna praise JAF

711
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: for putting the show back on the trucker to act

712
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: like that didn't happen before.

713
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm literally in the middle of having an allergy attack.

714
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to gut through the show. Let's go

715
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: to point five here if we can be seen, I'll

716
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: go to you first on this one. FORER point five.

717
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: It is kind of interesting Francis and Ganu and John Jones,

718
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: and in particular John Jones are just chattering with one another.

719
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: I'll ask you BC very flatly, is this the fight

720
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: to make at heavyweight? While we wait for DC and Steepek,

721
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: is this the one? Are you kidding me? Like?

722
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 2: Hell yeah? It's like, you know, uh, I don't want

723
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: to get my open my Christmas presents early because it's

724
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: only October. Oh, but you mean there's a car in

725
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: the garage. Yeah, let's open it. Let's let's start it

726
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: up now. It's like this is the ultimate gift to

727
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: the sport to not only have John Jones finally fulfill

728
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: the potential to fulfill his destiny at heavyweight b a

729
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: two division champion. You know, inject some incredible must watch

730
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: elements to that division, but to do it against essentially

731
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: MMA's Mike Tyson, who oh, by the way, happens to

732
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: be so hot right now with those four straight first

733
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: round KOs. I mean, look it is it would be

734
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 2: such a massive present you. I think, look, it's such

735
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: a great fight. I'd almost be like, yeah, sure, strips

736
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: dpey at the rules, at anything, Let's make this fight

737
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: right now. The key is here, Luke, is it for real? Now?

738
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: They did ask Dana Saturday at the postfight press conference,

739
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: and he did the whole You watch Dana's mannerisms lately

740
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: after the fights, like he's so he's got the old

741
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: man thing going. He can't really hear the questions. He's

742
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: always like what wait, what, and then he's just sort

743
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: of like, Ah, those guys don't want I don't think

744
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: those guys want that fight. They're just talking. Well, you know,

745
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: John's manager, Abe Kawa did tweet out, no, John really

746
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 2: wants that fight. I don't know if John really wants

747
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: that fight. John has teased us publicly about fighting Steepe

748
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: for years, about fighting a lot of people. But if

749
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: you were able to make that fight and you know

750
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: what I feel about interim titles. Throw it, Throw an

751
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: interim tpe, throw a real title, throw anything. Call the

752
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 2: WBC have a make up one of those gold lamet

753
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 2: titles that mean nothing, that costs a couple million dollars.

754
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: Do whatever. This is a big time fight that's not

755
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: just good from a pay per view interest, celebrity interest,

756
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: but like, could John be a legitimate have youwa imagine

757
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: if John went in there and won. I mean, now

758
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: you're like, are we gonna see John Steepe for the

759
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: full bell or we're gonna see John d C three

760
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: at some point for the full belt. Look, I want

761
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: to make one statement that I've made back in twenty twelve,

762
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen, I'll make it again right now.

763
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 2: Even with John's slow, diminishing skills, where his mind is

764
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: so strong, as you point out, his defense is better

765
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: than ever, but he's not the same explosive guy. I

766
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: still think John beats every single heavyweight, including in Ghanu.

767
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: And I obviously understand that in Ghanu is the most

768
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: dangerous one because of the quick, hard strikes from any angle.

769
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: I just think some of the diminishing qualities that light heavyweight,

770
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: where John has to work extra hard to beat guys

771
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: like Don Reis in mahead and hold them off that

772
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: gap at heavyweight in terms of speed, reaction time. They don't.

773
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: Heavyweight doesn't deal with that kind of Mayweather like IQ

774
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: like John Jones is going to go in there, Luke,

775
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: and he's gonna win the title, and he's gonna beat everybody,

776
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: and that journey of watching him try to do that

777
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: is gonna be some of the most compelling fights this

778
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 2: promotion in sport will see over the next few years.

779
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a super interesting one. I actually

780
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: think that there's any number of reasons to do this fight. Right.

781
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Number one, it'd be huge. That's enough to do what

782
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: really in modern UFC quite candidly. But beyond that, if

783
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: you want more than it, put an interim title on

784
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: it and make it for the number one contender or

785
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, a championship unification about if you could get

786
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: it done in short order. Right, you're waiting for DC

787
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: and step A to get going, and maybe that will

788
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: take a while. In the meantime, these two guys appear

789
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: to be, you know, jawing at each other, and if

790
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: Francis wins, he would deserve a title belt anyway, so

791
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: that if he had a unification bout, he could get

792
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: more money. That's just my opinion. So at a bare minimum,

793
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: it's a number one contender's about. So that's another good

794
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: reason to do it, because we would all agree if

795
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: the champ from the lower weight class came up, who

796
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: has a win over the previous champion in that weight

797
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: class in DC, surely he'd be reasonably competitive both fighters wanted.

798
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: Then on top of it, dude, that fight is very competitive.

799
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: I know a lot of folks may not want to

800
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: hear that, but it is really true. I take the

801
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: improvements that Francis and God Who has made seriously. They

802
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: are real. Certainly his coaches believe his cardio is dramatically improved.

803
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: But I don't think folks fundamentally accept the reason why

804
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: John keeps winning despite what appears to be some offensive deterioration.

805
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: As I've indicated on Dissected a number of times, he

806
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: has extraordinarily high fight IQ and has lights out defense.

807
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: He is hard to hurt, he is hard to hit.

808
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: He knows how to manage a twenty five minute fight

809
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: over five rounds beautifully. We watched Mayweather on Friday Night, BC,

810
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: What do we say about that? That guy knows every

811
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: inch of that ring, every way in which to press

812
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: the gas, press the brakes, lean on the ref and

813
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: have the ref not be involved. Whatever he needs, he

814
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: knows how to command all of it. John Jones is

815
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: exactly the same kind of way, dude. He is a

816
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: very tough matchup for Francis and Gando. Now Francis, who

817
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: is a force of nature, I think it's fair to

818
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: say is a tough matchup for just about anybody too.

819
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: But you look at this fight. Here's what I would say.

820
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: I hope that Dominic gets a chance to get another

821
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: crack of John Jones, or even Yanblohovich or maybe Glover

822
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: to Shaa, all those bubbas down at light heavyweight. They're

823
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: doing great things BC, and I know you agree, but

824
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: there's no reason to not do John Jones versus Francis

825
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: and Connue belt or no belt. There's no good reason

826
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: not to and every good reason to do it. There's

827
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: every reason we see if a promoter is making a

828
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: fight has to check the boxes. This one checks all

829
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: of them.

830
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: And there's you know, there's no reason to keep John

831
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: at light heavy there's no reason to fight Reyes the

832
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: second time ahead. I said, all these guys where you

833
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: know you may end up losing it. It's like it's

834
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: it's like when GSP, whenever we talk about hip potential

835
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: comeback for him. There's a reason I never came back

836
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: and fought with Leigh for the title. There's nothing to

837
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: add there historically at this point for John, I feel

838
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: like the matchups will actually only get easier. And I

839
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: know there's people that are hearing that on what are

840
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: you crazies? Are heavyweights one punch confission? Yes they can,

841
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: but can we not act like John has a legendary chin, Luke,

842
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: a legendary.

843
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: Chin, massive massive, He is legendary John. This is this

844
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 1: is the thing, this is the thing. He doesn't get

845
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: hit and when he does get hit, he just rolls

846
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: with it. It's unbelievable at the point you're making, so

847
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: I agree to me, Like, dude, have we have consensus

848
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: on this one. I don't know when the right time

849
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: is to make it. That's a different, you know scenario,

850
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: But the sooner the better. That is the fight to

851
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: make in the UFC right now?

852
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: Can Does John really want it?

853
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: Though? Luke?

854
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: That's the question I'm going to interrupt you to say,

855
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: does John really want it? You two have a history.

856
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: Tell me the truth, tell us all the truth.

857
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: I think he would appear to him, inspire him if

858
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: you take a social media messaging seriously. Is osp and

859
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: the relative success he had at times against Ben rothwell,

860
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: which is sort of a crude way to assess how

861
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: he would do. But I think also, you know, he

862
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: was saying, I'll fight Dominic Ray as a game for

863
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: the UFC, makes it worth my while. But are they

864
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: really going to do that. We had Henry Sehudo retire

865
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: and now his manager's coming up saying it's not really retired,

866
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: which I don't understand why you would say that as

867
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: a bargaining position. But again, you're seeing people try to

868
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: take different tactics, from Suhua's retirement to John Jones saying this, well,

869
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: he's got to make it worth my while. I tend

870
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: to think that UFC might try that a little bit

871
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: more with the Francis fight, maybe adding a belt on top.

872
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: He's already got one, right, so he could have the

873
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: two belts there. That's the kind of bling bling that

874
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: gets John Jones a little bit excited. Plus, if you

875
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: look on his Instagram. Dude's been deadlifting again, heavy heavy

876
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: heavy weights. I think he's I think he's ready to

877
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: finally make a move because it's do the same thing

878
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: you've been doing, or finally, finally, finally try something new.

879
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: The quarantine and the pandemic is a time to just

880
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: to make some changes. We see. I think he absolutely

881
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: wants it.

882
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's up to us as a people to make

883
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 2: some changes, right, change the way we eat, change away

884
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: we treat each other. Maybe shout out Jay for saving

885
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: the show earlier. Maybe actually understand that John Jones did

886
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: get that booty call and Albert Querque when I got

887
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: pulled over. We can't avoid the truth, you know what

888
00:41:59,160 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Luke.

889
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: I leave that very capable analysis to you. Let's do

890
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: this be see, that's it for our five points. It's

891
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: time now where we get the readers and the viewers

892
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: to a listeners, I should say to ask us some questions.

893
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: It's time for dms from dogs thing there all right now,

894
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: b See, I'm gonna ask a favor. I am literally

895
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: having an allergy attack on the air, So I'm gonna

896
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: throw to you the first one of these while I

897
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: go and get some medicine because I can't breathe and

898
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: my face is melting.

899
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: To the show, Louk, it's fine, here we go.

900
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: Let's throw the first one up here if we can.

901
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: It was open enough to say that the decision spelled

902
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: wrong when they got was bs. What do you think?

903
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they will. I mean it does happen rarely

904
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: from time to time where a guy is is truly honest.

905
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: It just doesn't It doesn't ever help you business wise

906
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 2: to admit that in the moment, because you know, if

907
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: it's potential for rematches, the potential of keeping your standing financially,

908
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: and at the end of the day, that's what the

909
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: game is all about, so it really never behooves you.

910
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, there are some really honest fighters. And look

911
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: for the whole ridiculous referee Keith Peterson situation. I thought

912
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: Dominic Cruz was one of these guys, was one of

913
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: these pillars of honesty who would just always sort of

914
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: tell you like it is. Well, I guess I guess

915
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: he's still on brand with that right saying that. You know,

916
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: I did get a text from dom asking him on Saturday.

917
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: You know, I saw Keith Peterson the cage. What did

918
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: he smell like this time and bitches and cigarettes was

919
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: the deal? So shout out to that, But no, we

920
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: will see that. It just doesn't behoove you to do

921
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: it in the moment, so you don't often see that.

922
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: Sometimes guys, you know, the competitivenism kind of rolls back,

923
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: they take some space from it. Then they could admit, yeah,

924
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: now what I like Tim Bradley to say, there's no

925
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: way I should have won that first pack you off fight. Yeah,

926
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: I would like that, but you know, at some point

927
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: you're also a competitor and you're always going to be

928
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: a little bit more biased to what you did in

929
00:43:59,200 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: a fight.

930
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, here's here's also the problems that fans

931
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: have BC. I think you would agree. Years later, you'll

932
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: talk to these guys off the record at a gym

933
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: or at a media event and they'll just tell you

934
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have won that one. I've had that happen

935
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: a number of times, so like, I don't know how

936
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: I got away with that one. Or they'll they'll have

937
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: a measure of candor that they can't have while they're

938
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: still actively competing, using any bit of leverage they can

939
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: to get ahead. It does happen. It just doesn't happen

940
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: in a public way.

941
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: I'll give you that, right one of the next one, Jason.

942
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jason. This is from Think It's Broken twenty two

943
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: with Bryce Mitchell getting Camo shorts and now Brian Boom

944
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: asking for Ted. I is it in time for Rebok

945
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: or the UFC to let fighters have a bit more character? BC?

946
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: It sounds an interesting question because we're all sort of

947
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: against in our hearts in a lot of ways. What

948
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: Rebock the deal represents, right, It took potential money out

949
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: of the everyday fighter's hands, and it, you know, sort

950
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: of institution the look and feel. But at the same time,

951
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: I think that has added to the sport, having almost

952
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: this uniform. You know, there's some adaptations in there. You

953
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: can wear the long sleeves as a female, you know,

954
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 2: there's different ways you can wear the tight ass shorts

955
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: as we saw Vara over the weekend, or you can,

956
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: you know, whatever you want. I do kind of like

957
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 2: the uniformity of it. You can pick your own color,

958
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: you can do that, going in that extra direction of

959
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: tied eye and all that. I mean, it comes down

960
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: corporately what you want your look to be. Look, do

961
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: you want to go back outside of the financial situation.

962
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 2: Do you want to go back to seeing condom depot

963
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: and manscaped on the crotch and all that kind of

964
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: you know, dynamic fasteners. It does sort of have a

965
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: triple A feel when you look at like the outfield fence.

966
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. In fact, manscaped was on the octagon

967
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: the entire time. So to me, it's like, Wow, we're

968
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: gonna tell fighters you can't have a condom depot AD,

969
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: but we're gonna put a pube trimmer. As MMA Mania said,

970
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: on the surface of the octagon, the octagon can be

971
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: littered with ads, but not the fighters themselves.

972
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: Is this is separate the money?

973
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: This is I'm just staying aesthetically. Aesthetically, it's okay for

974
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: the octagon to be littered with ads, it's not aesthetically

975
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: okay for the fighters. It's a completely incoherent argument. It's

976
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: just designed for control. There's no really, there's no good

977
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: reason for Reebok to exist at the way that they do.

978
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: It's just not there's not one.

979
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: I'm not sitting here and saying the Rebok should be

980
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: the way it is. I'm certainly not talking about the

981
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: financial side. I get it.

982
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you're asking, do I like the uniformity. No,

983
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: I do not like the uniformity. What makes boxing so

984
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: interesting to me is its absolute lack of uniformity, and

985
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: somebody gets a chance to stand out and by the way,

986
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: which the person may not know. I've actually interviewed Bryce

987
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: Mitchell about this. So Reebok tried to send him a

988
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: pair of Camo Schwartz once as like a as like

989
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: a prototype, and he said it was so bad. It's

990
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: funny enough that it looked like tied eye, and he

991
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: refused to wear it. He said, there's no chance I'm

992
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: wearing this. Here's the other part of the problem. You see,

993
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: if they had a partner and I got some rebuck here,

994
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: it fits nice. But in terms of their creative Reebok

995
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: is not good at creative They're not, and this is

996
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: a sport where you need to let fighters have some

997
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: creative shine. So I would buy your uniformity argument if

998
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: they had a I'm gonna make this up because I

999
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: don't know that this is true. But let's say Nike

1000
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: was better at it, and Nike could really tailor to

1001
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: that guy's needs. And this lady's needs. I would be

1002
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: much more willing to hear it. But because Reebok is

1003
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: uniformly bad at it, no pun intended, No, I don't

1004
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: buy it.

1005
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: I guess the final thought is, I just don't want

1006
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: to see things littered. If you're gonna say, here's a

1007
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 2: littered pair of shorts like a NASCAR car, or here's

1008
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 2: a sort of uniformed, streamlined look, I think corporately image

1009
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: it looks better streamlined. Now could a Nike work with

1010
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: Amanda new Ness and create a lion on the side

1011
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: of Yeah, okay, if you're going, if you're going to

1012
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: go in that direction and really do it right, Yes,

1013
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: of course I like flashiness. I mean I'm BC here,

1014
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: all right? Come on?

1015
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: We go to all Iver al Liver zero seven zero eight,

1016
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: and they say, now that the twenty twenty PFL season

1017
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: is canceled, William postponed. But what, okay, should we get

1018
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: excited about the potential for Kayla Harrison to move over

1019
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: to the UFC? Does anybody care? BC, she's a one

1020
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: fifty fiver. I don't know if she can even make

1021
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: one forty five. UFC is hanging on to a one

1022
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: forty five pound division by the skin of its teeth. Yes,

1023
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 1: and she's still with PFL so.

1024
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: And she gets paid really well there, Luke, when you

1025
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: can win tournaments worth one million dollars and by the way,

1026
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 2: you're heavily favored to win these tournaments and you're being

1027
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: presented by them as sort of the face of the franchise.

1028
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: And oh yeah, by the way, there's no division for

1029
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you know, if they could work

1030
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: together and make a crossover super fight, which the UFC

1031
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 2: doesn't do. By the way, that's why m one Global

1032
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 2: was never your co promoter for Randy versus fad Or. Yeah. Sure,

1033
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: I could be interested in some kind of big fight,

1034
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 2: right like Amanda versus you know, Harrison meet in the middle,

1035
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: but it's not gonna happen. Plus, don't they train together

1036
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: other weak anyway?

1037
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, they both trained at att mm hmm, that's right.

1038
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: You'd have to do something else, like is a Kayla

1039
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: Harrison versus Felicia Spencer about while intriguing a super fight?

1040
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: You know it has to be Cyborg. That have to

1041
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: be cyborg.

1042
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: I have to be cyborg, or well, that would be

1043
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: a beltar crossover, which I guess they might do. But

1044
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: the other part is, I know Megan Anderson can't or

1045
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: she can make them forty five obviously, but it's hard

1046
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: on her do Megan Anderson versus Kayla Harrison. But that's

1047
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: just a real it'll be intertating because.

1048
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 2: Okay, at the end of the day, though, Luke, at

1049
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: the end of the day, is the juice worth the squeeze?

1050
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: I love Kayla Harrison? Is she worth it on a

1051
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: on a marketable promotional level to do something like that. No,

1052
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: people still don't really know who she is yet, So yeah,

1053
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: now it's not the time.

1054
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: This is the problem. The argument that is she isn't

1055
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: yet in a star is not a reason to assume

1056
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: that she won't be. I actually think she has extraordinary

1057
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: star potential. The problem is is do you have the

1058
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: runway with enough women hurt for her to fight in

1059
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: such a way as to lift her Ronda came into

1060
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: bantamweight at the time when bansamweight was super hot in

1061
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: terms of the number of noteworthy pieces of talent she

1062
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: could go up against. There's just none of that here

1063
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: in this case.

1064
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: So what if you call in female talent hot? You

1065
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: never do that on this show.

1066
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: Look I'm not what I'm doing is not what I'm doing.

1067
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: You're just a weirdo. All right? We go now to

1068
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: TVGC MMA and they ask what's better BC, But what's

1069
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: the better performance? Flew Jordan, which turns out as not

1070
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: really Flew Jordan or repeated week long coke Binge, Diego

1071
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: Maradonna throughout the season and then the Napoli winning the league.

1072
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: What do you think is Diego Madona, coke binge.

1073
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: Or yeah, certainly Maradonna without question. But you know, John

1074
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: Jones versus Gustus in the first fight, pretty damn legendary joke,

1075
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: you know, jokes aside, booty call aside, pretty damn legendary.

1076
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: To gut that out? Can we have this conversation? Oh,

1077
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 2: I know, we're gonna talk about the Lance stance later.

1078
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: We do every week. It's been a fun five week journey.

1079
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: But Luke, that was no flu game, That was no

1080
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 2: food poisoning game. Can we understand something here? I know

1081
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: hangover was sort of the working theory right in the

1082
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: same working theory of Jordan didn't play NBA in ninety

1083
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: four and half a ninety five because he was suspended

1084
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: for gambling. I'm not saying I believe that, but I

1085
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 2: think it's even more than a hangover. Hear me out

1086
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: real quick. Okay. Even ken Burns has criticized this documentary

1087
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: by saying, look, it's too not Jordan centric, but Jordan

1088
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: has too much control of the narrative. Now I'll counter

1089
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: a ken Burns or a director Jay of MK criticism

1090
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: and say, you got the access you got Jordan. He

1091
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: doesn't speak like this. He's giving you a ten out

1092
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: of ten performance. Prop him up and let him be

1093
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: the whole show, which they did for the most part.

1094
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: So that's successful. But you understand Jordan's inner circle, it's

1095
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: no different than Mayweather's inner circle, Muhammad Ali's inner circle.

1096
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 2: Their entire livelihood, past present, and even future, even though

1097
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: he's retired, is predicated upon protecting him. All of them.

1098
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: The personal assistant, the security guys who we found out

1099
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: that one dude was like a father to him, the

1100
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: great dude with the mullet, that guy. Their whole life

1101
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: is keeping the kind of secrets that don't get out.

1102
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: You're telling me that this is a Michael Jordan, who

1103
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: we've already established during Big Playoff series would go to

1104
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: Atlantic City to gamble or before Game one of the

1105
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: ninety eight finals. As we saw in last night's show,

1106
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: he was drinking beer during the day and smoking a

1107
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: cigar to kind of like relax and prepare himself mentally.

1108
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: Now he can pull that off because they showcase so

1109
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: well how incredible is in the moment focus is Yet

1110
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: you're telling me that guy in you know, boondock Utah

1111
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: is not going to try to find some fun when

1112
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 2: he's always sequestered to his room. He's gonna sit around

1113
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: with his guys and at ten pm, go oh yeah,

1114
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm hungry. Can somebody you know drive fifty miles to

1115
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: get me a pizza or have five people delivered? No,

1116
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: there was women, there were things. It happened, Luke, come on,

1117
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: it happened. Okay, let's let's fess up. It happened.

1118
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. First of all, it's like, are you black Jesus

1119
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: as you claim or are you not quit your bitching?

1120
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: You want that title. There's a little bit of responsibility

1121
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: that comes with that title, and that's sucking it up.

1122
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: Get some straws MJ and suck it up. Okay, they're

1123
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: a big guy. Put on.

1124
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: When you suck it up, do you mean admit it.

1125
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying, right, admit it.

1126
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: No, I'm making fun of him because I don't think

1127
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: it was the flu. I absolutely think it was some

1128
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: partying related thing where a mix between you know, hungover

1129
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: something else. You know, God only knows. But I don't

1130
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: actually buy that it was the flu and the pizza thing. Probably.

1131
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: I think the pizza thing was like ten percent of

1132
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: the story. Like, I don't think it's not true.

1133
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: Why do you think it's that hungry for pizza? Right,

1134
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: he's probably partying somebody put. I mean, look, you know,

1135
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: things happen. Look, I didn't expect, as we told when

1136
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: we were telling drunken stores the other night, that the

1137
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: day before or Mayweather Maydonna too that morning, I'd be

1138
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: throwing up all day until a half hour before the fight. Professionally,

1139
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: it's a bad look for me to share that story.

1140
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: But you know what, Luke, it happened, all right. I

1141
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: had eight beers the night before and it happened. Mike,

1142
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 2: just say it.

1143
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: Bro Yeah, I've had you know, listen, there's there's been

1144
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: some mornings where I needed some coconut water. You know

1145
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, BC, it's happened.

1146
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: All right, this morning looks like one of it. You

1147
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: look disheveled over there, luketogether.

1148
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: Right, Well, no, I didn't drink last night. It's just

1149
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: my kid. My kid is under the impression that her

1150
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: that I am Khalid shik Muhammad, and she is guantanamobey

1151
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: and she's going to torture me to death from lack

1152
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: of sleep. I don't know why, but she's decided that

1153
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: I love her.

1154
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 2: You need to protect the sanctity of morning combat by

1155
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: having Abuela take over Sunday nights. Okay. I'm not trying

1156
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: to tell you how to run your farm over there, Luke, Okay, but.

1157
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: Come on, I'll do my best, all right, last but

1158
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: not least MMA News seventy nine. And this is true.

1159
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: By the way, Angela Hill's grandfather. I don't know if

1160
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: you know this. I don't know the story, but I

1161
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: know that I've seen Rogan talk about her grandfather was

1162
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: abducted by aliens. She believes this, this person writes, and

1163
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: that they are open to the possibility. BC. How open

1164
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: are you and I to thinking? Uh, alien abductions are real?

1165
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: I believe you know.

1166
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: Those on a lot of topics that would make that

1167
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: have made you unhappy, that have that would make other

1168
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: people unhappy. I don't try to put aliens as like

1169
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: in my top five of you know, things to convince

1170
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 2: people on. I'm just saying luke, as I say often,

1171
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: I've seen enough to know I've seen too much and

1172
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: yeah you know.

1173
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean here's the thing. It's usual. I mean,

1174
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 1: I don't know about Angel Hill's grandfather, but usually most

1175
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: people who tried to you know, swear up and down

1176
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: about UFOs. I mean they've got more UFO sidings than

1177
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: they do teeth, so they're not really credible speakers. But

1178
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this, when the Navy and the Pentagon released

1179
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: that footage of these quite literally unidentified flying objects, that

1180
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: got my attention. I mean it was always a scientific

1181
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: pot stability. I mean, could you really be alone in

1182
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: the universe? That seems terribly unlikely given its vast size.

1183
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: So in that sense, I always wort of have took

1184
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: it seriously. But the speakers, you know, I'm hunting for Bigfoot?

1185
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: Oh are you? Is that what you're hunting for? You're

1186
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: hunting for your your sister wife? Uh? But in this case,

1187
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: I will I am open I am very open to

1188
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 1: the idea. I am very I just hear. It's the

1189
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: same thing I need every time, b see, I just

1190
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: need evidence. I need evidence.

1191
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: When you when you admit that you would believe in

1192
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: something like that, people automatically think that you're saying a

1193
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: flying sauce. You admit that there's a flying sauce that

1194
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: could land in your backyard and scoop you up. I'm

1195
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: not necessarily connecting the dots that that deep, But uh it?

1196
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: Do I think that the planet has been visited by

1197
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: not just like bacteria that road on some kind of

1198
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: comet that hit the Earth. I'm not talking about that

1199
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: has been visited by intelligent life that came visited, observed,

1200
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: and left. I take that possibility seriously. I'll put it

1201
00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: that way.

1202
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: Do you believe that the illuminati that really runs this world,

1203
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: with the Rothschild family in the European banks, that they're

1204
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 2: possibly reptilian as well? Or are we not going that far?

1205
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: No? I read books, we see. Sorry, I can't I

1206
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: can't go that far with you, my friend, But you

1207
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: know I read.

1208
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: Books on the way to the Cannibal Corpse concert. Yes, yes,

1209
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. Pillar to your society.

1210
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: All right, BC, this is where you take over the

1211
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: show and you have a little bit of fun. Take

1212
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: it away, good sir.

1213
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: All right, we know what we do animation, please Jay,

1214
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 2: There we go. We scour the globe for the good,

1215
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: the bad, the high, the low, the in between, and

1216
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: combat sports. I do want to shout out something quick. Look,

1217
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: I find all these every week I produce this segment.

1218
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: Shout out to Gaff for taking my shit and and

1219
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: organizing it behind the scenes. But I have now an

1220
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: army of people, Luke, not just the people that send

1221
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: me inappropriate stuff, but people like at the drunken swan

1222
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: on Instagram who just make it their week long journey

1223
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: to arm me with the goods for this, I pick

1224
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: and choose, Luke, Right, I picked the good apples from

1225
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: the bad. But I I'm I have people, Okay, I'm

1226
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: building an army. Shout out to all of them. Let's

1227
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: do it. Hold on, give me a second. I know

1228
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: we're live again. But it's not like it's the first

1229
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: screwup we've had on this show.

1230
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: This ye, this show has been a semi good, semi train.

1231
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 2: Wreck, mostly a train wreck. All right, here we go, Luke,

1232
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna start in one championship. Check out this front

1233
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: kick from hell if you can roll the footage here, Luke,

1234
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: First of all, is that guy wearing a diaper who's

1235
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: got it right there? But second of a, wow, Luke,

1236
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: that's pretty good. That's not a crane kick. That's not

1237
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: silva against uh uh, you know what I'm talking about

1238
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: against stuff.

1239
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: He skipped into it.

1240
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like a leaping front kick to the face.

1241
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 2: That's some good stuff right there, Luke. I know you

1242
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: like that.

1243
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: It's a nice way to start the program.

1244
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Glory kickboxing. Luke, you may

1245
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: have seen this, you may be woke to us. I've

1246
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: never seen this brawl that broke out here from this

1247
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: cheap shot in Glory kickboxing. Let's check it out. First

1248
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,959
Speaker 2: of all, protect yourself at all times, all right. First

1249
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: of all, but watch the corner of that busted up

1250
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: gentleman right there. React to this, Luke, We got a melee.

1251
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: Look at this. This ain't Mayweather, Judah, this is the

1252
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 2: real thing. Oh my god.

1253
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: Look, bro, there's big mic from Mike's Jim. Yeah, no, seriously,

1254
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: that's a big as Mike from Mike's Jim. Uh is

1255
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: that Mertzell Gruenhardt? Who is that?

1256
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. But you can't turn your back like that.

1257
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: I mean, the ref can't get there in time. Look

1258
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: at his face. Look at I mean he got f'd

1259
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: after dude. That's like that's some that's some Mayweather Victor

1260
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: Ortiz show. It is it is, but look at the

1261
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: look at the boys come in. It's like nine, oh,

1262
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: beeB off the top rope with the dropkick on Dylan

1263
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: Dannis there we go. Wow, I mean that's some that's

1264
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: some Bruce see that? Ish All right, Let's go to

1265
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: UFC Jacksonville over the weekend. Check out this nerd. I

1266
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: know you saw this Nate Land where issued the damage

1267
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: to Darren the damage Elkins by uh making his face

1268
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: fall apart. But luke this like Roy Jones went arm

1269
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: behind the back bs the train here talking yelling Dana's

1270
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: name in an empty arena. Could somebody this is one

1271
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 2: of It's like, can somebody pull out a rifle? Can

1272
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: we get this guy out of it? I mean, like, look,

1273
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: I get if you're young Connor McGregor and you're on

1274
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: the scene and you just knocked out Dylan Brandowin, you

1275
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: want to do a whiskey shot with the Fertidas and

1276
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: you want to have that boldness. Who the hell is

1277
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: Nate the trained land where to be doing this to

1278
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: an institution like Darren Elkins.

1279
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I'll say about this. Uh listen, man,

1280
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: he was feeling it. He was feeling it. I'm not

1281
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: mad at him for feeling it. And he won the fight,

1282
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: and God bless him. On that level, I got no problem.

1283
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna do the Roy Jones thing like that,

1284
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: you can't stand at kickboxing range, right. You gotta do

1285
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: it like you gotta be able to get hit and

1286
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: and you should probably finish the dude, which, granted Darren

1287
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: Elkins is hard to finish. I'm just saying I'm not

1288
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: mad at the swag he was feeling in the moment.

1289
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: BC, But I got a second fight. Look, the second

1290
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: fight of the night against the guy who takes damage.

1291
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: I know you got a little too far out in

1292
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: front of his skis on that one. That's what I'll say.

1293
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 2: All right, before you roll the next one, don't go

1294
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 2: to the next one yet. But did you see the

1295
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: post fight interview. I don't have the footage, but did

1296
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: you hear his voice. Luke, Now, look, I love me

1297
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: some Middle America, right, I love me some Hic Diaz.

1298
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: I love me Bryce Mitchell. But did you hear the

1299
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: twang on the train right here? H the guy is uh,

1300
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: that's deep South all right? Before we roll this next one, Okay, Luke,

1301
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: I try not to put like completely mainstream videos on here.

1302
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: The stuff that like your mom sent you or Robin

1303
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: Black or barstool or whatever has already put out there

1304
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: twenty five times. But this next clip had what sent

1305
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: to me at least one hundred and fifty times in

1306
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: the past week. It was a record for have you

1307
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: seen this shit? I know you've seen it. You posted

1308
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 2: it yourself. Here's Star of the Fly Jeff Goldbloom during

1309
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: a Richmond street fight. We gotta watch part one here, Luke,

1310
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: I know you love this one. Okay. I follow the

1311
01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: neighbor on Twitter. Apparently the shirtless guy thought to him

1312
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: and made an inappropriate comment about women.

1313
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: Stand switch bah hit him.

1314
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: So suddenly Jeff Goldblum turns into uh, he turns into

1315
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 2: Kung Lee here.

1316
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I listen, I was gonna I'm gonna fuck you up.

1317
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: Take that one. Uh yo. Ian Malcolm from the Jurassic

1318
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: Park is the ship bro He will fuck your world up.

1319
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: He broke a rib there. I mean he kicked the

1320
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: guy's ass, but most people did not go down the

1321
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: timeline over the neighbor kid who posted it. Have you

1322
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: seen part two?

1323
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: Luke?

1324
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: Ten minutes later they went at it again. Did you

1325
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: see it?

1326
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got this, they got the they got the

1327
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: sticks out. But my man switch dances here. Look at this,

1328
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: and here's the rematch. Shirtless man. Just yeah, just keep

1329
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: shooting it through a pane of glass. There are your

1330
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: Samsung S three fuck face.

1331
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: Oh this is alternate angle. Is this not the rematch?

1332
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: There? No, this is the rematch. The rematch. They start

1333
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: stripping down with the weapons.

1334
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I gave him the rematch. Anyway, there

1335
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: is a part two in which the guy, the shirtless

1336
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: guy comes out with a stick, right, and he.

1337
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: Starts to this is this is the king of You're

1338
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: not gonna get this joke. Shot went to Richmond. This

1339
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: is the king of shocko bottom right here.

1340
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: Boys, Uh, Luke, aren't you trying to portray that your

1341
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: sister lives on that street?

1342
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: No? No, this is the fan which is actually a

1343
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: nice area. They're just on a side street here. It

1344
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: doesn't look that great, but uh, the fans of the

1345
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: Richmond's a great dude. Richmond is a great party. Sound

1346
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: it's great. I love Richmond?

1347
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: All right?

1348
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: All right? Get the part two with the weapons?

1349
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah we don't have Do we not have that? Jay?

1350
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: Can you speak to me through my ear?

1351
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: Jay?

1352
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: Did I not give you the I think I gave

1353
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: you the wrong one?

1354
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: No? I did?

1355
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: I did? Jay?

1356
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: I did.

1357
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: Anyway, if anyone wants to find out at Fallen Leo

1358
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: is the neighbor who filmed this, you can find it. Jay,

1359
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: I did send it to you. I got it right here.

1360
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: If you check that that original text threat, you probably

1361
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: can't get it up there.

1362
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: But uh, Bro, by the way, my man is, my

1363
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: man is. My man has no business being shirtless and

1364
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: has You are not going to fat shame this redneck

1365
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: into putting on a shirt. Lead.

1366
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean it does tell you something Luke. Back in

1367
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 2: the day, whether it was a school a bar, you

1368
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: could size up a guy by looking at him and go, Okay,

1369
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: what's the worst that can happen to me? I mean

1370
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 2: I can get knocked out, I can get punched, But

1371
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: then when you know, MMA became prevalent. You never know

1372
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: who's hiding these skills, Luke. You never know who can

1373
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: hoist gracieu or you never know that this dirt hole

1374
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: Jeff Goldbloom can turn into a a licensed killer.

1375
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: Well you know what when he switched dances right there? Bow,

1376
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's what he was like, Yo, take this.

1377
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: This is what you get for making veloci raptors. Fuck her.

1378
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're not going to get the second part,

1379
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: but find it on Twitter. Their shout out to fall

1380
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: In Leo. By the way, fall and Leo. I did

1381
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: research him a little bit, Luky. He fronts a band

1382
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: that would be right up your angle, all right, a

1383
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: lot of screaming and say in and death and stuff.

1384
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: So shout out to that. All right, Hey, let's let's

1385
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: go to a hoops game here. You gotta protect yourself

1386
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: at all times. Where do you establish that in glory

1387
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: even if you're sitting on the top row, Luke, check out? Yeah, wow,

1388
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: kill whitey Luke. Check this out.

1389
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh that is awesome.

1390
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: That's great, that is great.

1391
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: Don't I don't even say what he's trying to do there.

1392
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: That's the thing. It looks premeditated. It looks like, I mean,

1393
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: like you gotta save that over your head. What is

1394
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: he doing?

1395
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: I've seen it when they jump out and then they

1396
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: grab it and they throw it behind themselves. I've seen that.

1397
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: I've never seen it where they did a volleyball spike

1398
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: onto like unsuspecting poor white girls. Tag you're it?

1399
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 2: That looks like D three college hoops?

1400
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, there's too many whites on the court.

1401
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: Is that is that Brian Daley? A point guard over there?

1402
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: He'd be starting all right, all right.

1403
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: Let's move on here to uh, you know, I love

1404
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 2: me some gender reveal fails, Luke. Check out this gender

1405
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 2: reveal attempt. Here's the pitch. Oh god, look.

1406
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: Just a bit outside. It's like it's like a slow

1407
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: motion you know.

1408
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: Uh, if you're the dad here, what you're gonna show

1409
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: plate discipline? Now you're gonna you're gonna good eye, good

1410
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 2: eye pop. You know.

1411
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, he's like, that's way outside the

1412
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: strike zone. Fuck face, I'm not swinging at this.

1413
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 2: You know what was his his girlfriend who threw or

1414
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: his wife who who threw that too? And he's like, oh,

1415
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: come on, honey, I told you right right high and

1416
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: inside we're chest high.

1417
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: Come on also, uh shouts to the person there who

1418
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: caught that with their face not even have their hands up.

1419
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: Why are you in the catcher's position if your hands

1420
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: are on the ground.

1421
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: Well I could make a joke about that. But here

1422
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: we let's roll on here, let's go to uh amateur

1423
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: wrestling here.

1424
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: Luke, by the way, congratulations, it's a boy. There you go,

1425
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go.

1426
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: Here's a technique that we don't see off look. I

1427
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 2: think it's called an oil change.

1428
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: Yes, oil check. It's called the oil check. He's you're

1429
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be grabbing the tailbone, is what you're

1430
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing. But then we'll just take the

1431
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: sequel to above the rim. Luke, you know, boy, this

1432
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: was me last night in the bed, scratching my rear

1433
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: end because it was so itchy.

1434
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, shout out to mcdojo Life. I've been dming that, dude.

1435
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: I love those Oh DM me too. He's like, thanks

1436
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: for all this stuff. I'm like, dude, you're the one

1437
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: making our lives better?

1438
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 2: Are we talking about amount rushmore of? Have you seen

1439
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 2: this ship?

1440
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: Providers? Are?

1441
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: Are mcdojo Life hog farts nut shots. Yeah, those are

1442
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: c society. Society. Yeah, all right, hey look here's the

1443
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: best one of the week. I've never seen this before.

1444
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: H Let's go to a Yankees Red Sox game. J D.

1445
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: Martinez is your Red Sox right field there on this

1446
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: ground real double uh he's look at him, he's gonna

1447
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 2: try to grab grab two Oh. I think you look.

1448
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to see the slow mo here. He

1449
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: needed to brace himself. Luke, Okay, nice shot. Who's the

1450
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: battle of there? Nice shot down the shirt. Let's see

1451
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: right by Pesky's poll there and look at j D.

1452
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: Just just uh more than a mouthful.

1453
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: Wow, that was like that was like rampage when he

1454
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: was in being interviewed by Karen Bryant.

1455
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 2: Just you know, no, that's assault, brother, Yeah, that is

1456
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 2: that is great. I think his hand got lost in there, Luke,

1457
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: that was great. Yeah. You know you wanted front row.

1458
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 2: Isn't that what Gallagher used to say?

1459
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: You know you wanted you came to a show where

1460
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: a guy smashed watermelons. Don't be upset. Don't be upset

1461
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: when they smash watermelons.

1462
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: Jay, you said something, Jake, share with the people a

1463
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 2: right Jay, all right, great show, Claybor Torres. I'm sorry.

1464
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 2: I stopped watching baseball for years ago. It's for old guys,

1465
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 2: old white guys. Sorry, all right, let's go on. Let's

1466
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: go on, Luke. Uh, you gotta love you. Some drunken girls, right,

1467
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: they congregate in the bathroom. It's selfie time. Oh, we're

1468
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 2: so drunk, We're so drunk. And then and then the

1469
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 2: then the then the big one comes in. Luca wants no, no,

1470
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 2: that's not fair, that's not nice, Luke. That's I mean,

1471
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 2: that's it is. Uh uh yeah, only the strong survive.

1472
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: It is very Darwin of this.

1473
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, god, there's so many jokes I

1474
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: can get and make that will get me fired, right know.

1475
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 2: Uh well yeah, okay, maybe we should roll on then, Luke,

1476
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: I did enjoy that though, you know what, I've been

1477
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: on my guilty pleasure. This pandemic has been Here's the

1478
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: one I'll make.

1479
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: That's the woman that's hilarious. That's the woman that Rob

1480
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 1: Schneider was referencing. It was like, holy shit, it's Bigfoot

1481
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: from uh this bigel o' mill jiggler. There.

1482
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I can't go any further I'll get fired.

1483
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: Check out this great graffiti work, Luke. Nice Wendy's.

1484
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: Uh billboard, What was the last time you had a

1485
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:30,839
Speaker 1: Wendy's Frosty?

1486
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: So? I haven't had a frosty, but I crushed eleven

1487
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: dollars the other day for lunch at Wendy's, and my

1488
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 2: wife got very upset at me.

1489
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: I've not had a frosty yet. I can't remember the

1490
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: last time I had one.

1491
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that? Is that a chocolate frosty right there?

1492
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: Seems Is there any other kind? Yeah?

1493
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, there's there's vanilla, Luke. Okay, is their servant?

1494
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: Out of out of Wendy's. All right, we got one

1495
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 2: more for you, Luke. You know everyone always says this,

1496
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 2: this shows all only dongs and stuff. They want art.

1497
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 2: You want our Let's go to the Museum of Modern

1498
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: Art here getting this structure together. Wow, this movement is

1499
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: really going, Luke, even the Museum of Modern Art going

1500
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: tip on tip. I like it.

1501
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: I like it.

1502
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: I guess you know are we are is our art, Luke.

1503
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: I was wondering where this one was headed. I thought

1504
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,799
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the bottom of like a long

1505
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: shaft of penis. But it's just tip to tip, you

1506
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: know what. This was artfully done.

1507
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: BC you thankfully, thank you so much. Have you seen

1508
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: this ishe? I know you have there. It is another

1509
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: week in the books, Luke, Okay, oh here we go.

1510
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 2: Our producers are told us they have they have cued

1511
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 2: up part two of the Jeff Golblinfight. So this is

1512
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: this is shirtless man getting some some payback, getting the

1513
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 2: receipts until until until Jeff Goldblum took the stick from him.

1514
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: See. I actually feel like this is a good a

1515
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: good switch because Ian Malcolm gets the weapon and the

1516
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: guy with no shirt now gets a shirt.

1517
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 2: You see, that's a that is actually you know, yeah,

1518
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: that's how society. That's that's how the circle of life.

1519
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: You know. Really so PostScript on, this shirtless guy suffered

1520
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 2: a broken rib and Jeff Goldblum broke his arm during

1521
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: this exchange right here. I don't I don't know if

1522
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 2: I can see it, Luke.

1523
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 1: Can you how there was an arm break?

1524
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it was he gets hit or something. I

1525
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: think we need to get Fallen Leo on this show

1526
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 2: to break it down. But apparently it's uh. He also

1527
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: has a video of Jeff Goldblum smoking a cigarette afterwards,

1528
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: just like reveling in it.

1529
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: You know, Oh, this is a great day of his life.

1530
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

1531
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: He didn't want any his faces covered though. He didn't

1532
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: want any media coverage, probably because he knew he to get arrested. Luke,

1533
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 2: but this provided the world with theater this week. I mean,

1534
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 2: this is great.

1535
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: I loved everything about this. One of the better, you know,

1536
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: one of the better. I don't know what would call

1537
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: redneck fights. It's not exactly two rednecks. Richmond has its

1538
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: own share of like weird people, but definitely the dude

1539
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: on there is definitely mister shirtless. There is a guy

1540
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: who's been to a Stucki's or three. You know what

1541
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1542
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 2: You've been doing well, well, who hasn't, Luke. You know,

1543
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of sheets in Pennsylvania. I know

1544
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: our guy Minich is gonna jump in with wah wah.

1545
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 2: I mean that's fine, you know, it's great, it's great.

1546
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be smirting.

1547
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 1: I like a good schmuffin now and again.

1548
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love sheets because you know it's exactly how

1549
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: that how that game ends is in the title, Luke

1550
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I did want to say

1551
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: Fallen Leo had, the guy who filmed those fights in

1552
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: Richmond said, those two guys live in like the same

1553
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 2: apartment that you can rent rooms in that apartment. So

1554
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 2: it sounds pretty shady, Luke, But uh, there is going

1555
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 2: to be a rematch in a group home.

1556
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: Sweet, I don't know if.

1557
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: It's a group home? Is that what they is that

1558
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 2: what they?

1559
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: Okay?

1560
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's possible.

1561
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: In any event, In any event, BC, good job with that.

1562
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: It is time now for our odds and ends BC.

1563
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: What do you got for our odds and ends?

1564
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: Well, you know we talked about the influence that Daniel

1565
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 2: White and company had if they could pull this off

1566
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 2: and come back eight crazy nights, three fight cards. Who

1567
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: would be next? How about Eddie Hearn of Matchroom Sport.

1568
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 2: He's not fooling around now. We know he's a rich bloke, right.

1569
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 2: He's the son of famous fight promoter Barry Hearn andoo

1570
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: snooker promoter. You know they're big on snooker out there

1571
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: in the UK.

1572
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: What is snucker, Luke, I'm not even sure it's some

1573
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: bar game.

1574
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, snooker. I just met her. But here's the deal

1575
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: about this? Eddie wants to put the fights on in

1576
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 2: the backyard of his mansion. Luke, is this cool? Is

1577
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: this the the the upscale answer to fight Island?

1578
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: Or is this?

1579
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: Is this a handful of lame on your behalf? What

1580
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 2: do you do?

1581
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: It'd be like it's like, if you look at this place,

1582
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: it's like painfully stereotypically stuck up English, you know. So

1583
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: on the one hand, you're like, it just reminds you

1584
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: of that scene from Django Unchained where Leonardo DiCaprio is

1585
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: having the slaves fighting in his house with a hammer,

1586
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, this is this is really kind

1587
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 1: of gross. But I guess it would depend, right, I mean,

1588
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: who is he gonna have up there? Is it? You know?

1589
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: Is there a way to do it tastefully? Strike forces

1590
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 1: of the Playboy mansion for a time you'll recall, so

1591
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: it's not impossible to do. I just saw the mock

1592
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: up and I was like, Jesus, this is the best

1593
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: idea you have to like flaunt your wealth.

1594
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 2: Well Eddie. Look, Eddie's a good looking bloke. He's six seven,

1595
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: he always wears waistcoats. I mean, he's he's very flaunty

1596
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: right right.

1597
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: Luke, is he that tall?

1598
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't. You don't realize that till you

1599
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 2: meet the guy in person. And he's got a great

1600
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 2: story too about his dad took him to the basement

1601
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: to try to make him a man when he was fifteen,

1602
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 2: and they put on the gloves and he dropped his

1603
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: dad with a body shot. And that will let his

1604
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: dad know that. You know, he's got it, Luke, He's

1605
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: got it. I can't wait one day.

1606
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: Just like when Jay knocked out your Ryah Hall with

1607
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: a spinning back kick.

1608
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: Spinning back kick, I cannot wait to get your Ryeh

1609
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 2: haul on here to break that down one day? Will you?

1610
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 2: Will you now give Jay respect and and and admit

1611
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 2: to the people that it was actually your tech error

1612
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the show that caused this.

1613
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: Luke, it was not my tech hair, motherfucker. I was

1614
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 1: on this when you were still sleeping in your bed.

1615
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:53,839
Speaker 1: It was your titur that I had to fix.

1616
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 2: I've been told by Jay it was your your problem.

1617
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, how was it me? When I signed on it

1618
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: and everything was fine until Brian signed on. I didn't

1619
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: do anything different.

1620
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 2: You know what's great about this people don't know this.

1621
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 2: I made an offhand joke. I made an offhand joke

1622
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: before the show started about Luke always causing technical issues.

1623
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: Here, and now they can say whatever they want. I

1624
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 1: signed on before you and I did an air check

1625
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: and everything was fine. I take no blame for it

1626
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: now in terms of my odds and ends very quickly

1627
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 1: on this one, Dana White was asked after the last

1628
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: show on Saturday, what's the next plan? Because originally they

1629
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: were going to have a show on the twenty third,

1630
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: which will be next weekend. That is off no matter

1631
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: what they say. There's going to be a show on

1632
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: the thirtieth, no matter what. But here's sort of the

1633
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: kicker on this one, which is they want to have

1634
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: it at They're dying to get going at the Apex,

1635
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: which you could understand, right they put all this money

1636
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: into it in the low they can't go to any

1637
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: of the other casinos. It's like the perfect time, except

1638
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 1: for we know what those situation is, Okay, so what

1639
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 1: the What apparently he said was if they can't get

1640
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: going at the Apex, it's a one hundred percent certainty

1641
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: they're going to go to Arizona. My hunch is I

1642
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: don't know about where the rules are Connecticut, but the

1643
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: DC mayor just extended our scenario that we're in until

1644
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 1: June eighth. I suspect Nevada will not. I don't know

1645
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 1: if they're gonna extend it, but I don't think they're

1646
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,879
Speaker 1: gonna relinquish what's they're what they're in before the thirtieth,

1647
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: which I think they're expected to just have it be

1648
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: a part of the end of the month a lockdown

1649
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 1: scenario anyway. So unless they decide to roll that back,

1650
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: which I don't suspect that they will, it seems a

1651
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: virtual guarantee BC that the thirtieth will be the next

1652
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: UFC show in Arizona. And I'd be curious if the

1653
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: Gilbert Melendez versus Tyron Woodley fight is on that card,

1654
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: because we haven't really talked about that. Burns, giber Burns,

1655
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry, Gilbert Burns. What am I saying? Tyron Woodley?

1656
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: That fight is tremendous, that is I mean, I'm I

1657
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: feel bad for Leon Edwards because that was his real

1658
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 1: breakout moment if if he was gonna be able to

1659
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,759
Speaker 1: get a win over at UFC London. But Gilbert Burns

1660
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 1: is not far from that position, not the same place,

1661
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: but not far. And he's a threat everywhere. He's very

1662
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: good at jiu jitsu. I think he's gonna have a

1663
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: great cardio because he's really competing up a weight class

1664
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 1: and we're going to see, like, if Tyron wants to

1665
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: make a last stand in this weight class, you're gonna

1666
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:06,879
Speaker 1: have to do it against Gilbert.

1667
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 2: I'm very such a great fight because Gilbert's like the

1668
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: next big player at Walter. Right, if he wins or

1669
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 2: Tyron probably gets a title shot off of this. Seriously,

1670
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 2: if he.

1671
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 1: Wins, so possible, it's possible, yeah, you know, But look.

1672
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 2: Hey, why I say this before say it again? Why

1673
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: is Nevada suddenly the bastion of like good taste in

1674
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 2: terms of like sports commissioning here? We know eventually they're

1675
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 2: going to open their doors. Why would you I don't know,

1676
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: why would you let UFC or force UFC to cross

1677
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 2: the border and go down to Arizona and kind of

1678
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: make it work. We all know it's going to end

1679
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: up at the APEX. And again, it's safer if it

1680
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: does make the UFC biodome over that whole complex, right,

1681
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: I don't under it's.

1682
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the commission call, per se. I

1683
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: think it's the state call, right. I mean, the Commission's

1684
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: only going to do what the governor says they're going

1685
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: to do. And if the governor says we're not going

1686
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 1: to be open, they're just not going to be open.

1687
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: So freaking Vegas.

1688
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 2: When has there ever been a sense of, you know,

1689
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: of anything more decent?

1690
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: Yeah? Decency? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what

1691
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: they're waiting for. But here's the thing. If they, like,

1692
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: if you do what Florida did with the WWE, it's

1693
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: just a question of like what kind of press you want?

1694
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: That was like naked political corruption, you know, to give

1695
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 1: them that carve out. It worked out in UFC's favor,

1696
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: but it was a naked political corruption. But I don't

1697
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: think that the State of Nevada, it looks like they

1698
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: don't want to give any special carve out for UFC,

1699
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: even though UFC could and has to it depending on

1700
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: your viewpoint, demonstrated that they can do this in a

1701
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: reasonable and safe way.

1702
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 2: So, Luke, will we see will we actually see a

1703
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 2: UFC fight island fight? And when.

1704
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm going to say July do you like that, July?

1705
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 2: I wonder if there will even be a need for it.

1706
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1707
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 2: No, maybe I'm thinking too optimistically in terms of international

1708
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: fly laws, you know, related to COVID kind of loosening

1709
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 2: and all that.

1710
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: Let me ask this, I don't even know what the

1711
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: situation is. How possible is international travel these days? Is

1712
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:09,919
Speaker 1: it even doable?

1713
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 2: Probably not. Yeah, I'm probably getting ahead of myself just

1714
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: because UFC was able to pull that off. But you know,

1715
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 2: we will see full arenas by February first, twenty twenty one.

1716
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 2: That's another story though. But it's going to be interesting

1717
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 2: in all seriousness when we do have the upkicks of

1718
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: the outbreak, right when the winter comes in Fluci's. I mean,

1719
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 2: it'll be interested to see whether the advancements we have

1720
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 2: made in fight promotion up to that point, whether it

1721
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 2: can stay put as is, or whether we'll have to

1722
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 2: go backward again and kind of start all over.

1723
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows? Who knows whether what the vaccine development is.

1724
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: Who knows where testing is in terms of like, you know,

1725
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 1: we have testing done in seven minutes, you know, in

1726
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: which case there's still a lot you could do. Who

1727
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: knows who knows about this whole thing, so we love

1728
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: to see real quickly, we should wrap up on the

1729
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: Last Dance BC. Episodes nine and ten aired last night,

1730
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: and there were two of my favorite and in honor

1731
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,480
Speaker 1: of that, I texted you some pictures this morning of

1732
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: the so last night, I think it was episode nine,

1733
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: where they featured a lot of different things, including the

1734
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: story of Steve Kerr and Steve Kerr's father, Malcolm Kerr

1735
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: is a is a or was, I should say, a

1736
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 1: preeminent scholar of the Middle East, and he was the

1737
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: president of the American University of Bay Route. My mother

1738
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: long before that, I think, in the seventies, was an

1739
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:25,719
Speaker 1: undergrad there. I actually visited aub and this is my mug.

1740
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: You can sort of see. I'll pull it back here

1741
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. American University of Bay Route. It's a

1742
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: beautiful campus. It's right downtown, it's right on the water.

1743
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: It's i mean around the Mediterranean Sea. It's just one

1744
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: of the more spectacular campuses I've ever seen a lot

1745
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: of American students when I was there, of course, mostly

1746
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: Lebanese An Arab tons of stray cats on campus, which

1747
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 1: is kind of weird. But in any event. I've long

1748
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: had a well, it's well maintained that the campus is beautiful,

1749
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: but I've long had a bit of a I mean,

1750
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't know Steve Kerr, but I've known if his

1751
01:20:55,760 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: story and his father, because every person who is at

1752
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: Emigray sort of knows the story of Malcolm Kerr, and

1753
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: I was glad that it got told. When I say

1754
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: he was a legitimate scholar, I do mean like a

1755
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: legitimate scholar, well respected for the work that he had done,

1756
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: and a terrible, terrible tragedy sort of emblematic of the

1757
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:17,959
Speaker 1: story of be root.

1758
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 2: For your father in all seriousness, wasn't your father in

1759
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 2: the same sort of trade job.

1760
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 1: Description my father? My father was. My father was a diplomat,

1761
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: so that's how he actually met was was was through

1762
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: various stations, and he met in Beirut and my mother

1763
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: in the sixties, so this is long before the Civil

1764
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: War had taken over. But it was weird, you know,

1765
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: it was an interesting thing to read. I had forgotten

1766
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 1: they were going to tell Steve Kerr's story, and uh,

1767
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: a little slice of my life intersects with that in

1768
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: a different way. So it obviously it touched me in

1769
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: a different way BC.

1770
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 2: Great, great finish to it, Like you know, I love

1771
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: the whole by the way, what has been this documentary

1772
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: has been so good obviously, and it's hit at a

1773
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: time where we can really I sected at such an

1774
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 2: incredible level because there's nothing else to compete with it.

1775
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: But like some of the spinoff content, like I haven't

1776
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 2: watched the post fight recap shows, but the interviews with

1777
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: the director Jason Harrett have been incredible to see just

1778
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: how like hard it was to finish episodes nine and

1779
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: ten and how they were doing it remotely in their

1780
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 2: apartments because of the COVID breakout at the studio, like

1781
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 2: they put off, they pulled off you know what you

1782
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: can really call a masterpiece of a documentary. I mean,

1783
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 2: it's so well done that I don't know if it's

1784
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 2: possible to recreate the same treatment for a similar but

1785
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 2: different topic, whether it's in a different sport or whether

1786
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: it's a different team or player in the NBA. But

1787
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, you have to have a subject

1788
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 2: who's willing to talk at that level, you have to

1789
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: have a storyline that had so many dynamics. But it

1790
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 2: was absolute perfection. The tiny moments we'd never seen before,

1791
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 2: like Michael and Larry Bird embracing in the hallway after

1792
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 2: Game seven against the Pacers and Burke called him a

1793
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: bit and they had that. I mean, like those type

1794
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 2: of moments are just absolute gold. You only get those

1795
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 2: moments of course when it came cruise following somebody for

1796
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 2: a whole year and has that intimate access, but start

1797
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 2: to finish, what an incredible journey it took us on

1798
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 2: and a lot of us had lived that already, so

1799
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 2: to see some of those moments recreated. The big takeaway

1800
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: from the last episode was really just how much Michael

1801
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 2: was drained and that that final series and how much

1802
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 2: you know, he carried that on fumes. And obviously you

1803
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 2: heard the comments from Bob Costaos on the NBC telecast live.

1804
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 2: It was known it was understood that this was sort

1805
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: of the last stand for them and that you know,

1806
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 2: they were hanging on for dear life. But I mean,

1807
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 2: has anyone been able to like author an ending the way?

1808
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 2: I know Jordan came back later and you know you can,

1809
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 2: whether you liked it or not, whatever it did to

1810
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: his legacy, But to author such a perfect ending and

1811
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 2: walk away, I mean the guys. It's a the guy's

1812
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 2: a master it's a masterpiece the career the guy had.

1813
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: Let me, let me ask you this pec I've been

1814
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 1: I've been wrestling with this idea, which is, so there's

1815
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: no NBA season right now, but there would have been.

1816
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 1: They would have intersected the airing of this and then

1817
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: the end season. And there's two different arguments you could make.

1818
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: One argument would be that basketball happening in the ordinary

1819
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: way in which life was around February, because there would

1820
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: have been so much attention around it would have elevated

1821
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: this documentary series. The other argument is that it got

1822
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: elevated by virtue of its absence, because there was such

1823
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,560
Speaker 1: intense focus on something anything to grab our attention. The

1824
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: reason why I asked that BC is one, which one

1825
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: do you subscribe to to? I kind of lean more

1826
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: towards the latter because this has reinvigorated the MJ Lebron

1827
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: debate in a way where Lebron can't answer in real time.

1828
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't have ad playing next to him, they don't

1829
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: have this series. They're not out there, you know, potentially

1830
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: making an incredible playoff run right now because when they

1831
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: were playing together due they were a dominant force in

1832
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: the NBA, certainly in the West. So Lebron's literally on

1833
01:24:56,640 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: the sidelines, the proverbial sidelines, while Jordan is get all

1834
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 1: this airtime. I wonder if that has skewed the debate

1835
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: unfairly given the NBA season being off. What's your sense

1836
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: of things.

1837
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's skewed it unfairly. I think,

1838
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 2: if anything, it doubled down on the real answer that

1839
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: while there it is debatable, Yes, I think Lebron has

1840
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 2: entered to a level. I mean, eight consecutive finals, you know,

1841
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 2: switching teams all that, it's entered to a level where

1842
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: he's in that conversation whether you ultimately have him as

1843
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: the second or third or even fourth greatest player ever,

1844
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 2: I mean I subscribe that he's the second being. You know,

1845
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 2: and if you don't know, I certainly have a deep

1846
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,759
Speaker 2: NBA back knowledge where I can give you respectable opinion.

1847
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: But I think it showed you why he was different

1848
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 2: from Lebron, and it doubled and tripled down and exposed

1849
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: it in every way. The guy's just an absolute single

1850
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: minded winner, you know, who was yes, was able to

1851
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: elevate others around him. To that level. But he's you know,

1852
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 2: he's a different mentality than Lebron, a different player and

1853
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 2: a different winner. So I think that it benefited from

1854
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 2: the whole setting of being the only game in town.

1855
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: But I still think it would have struck such a

1856
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: deep court even with competing against all the other sports,

1857
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 2: because it's such an untapped subject. It's at the same

1858
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: time Jordan's career. It's at the same time the most

1859
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 2: oversaturated subject and yet untapped because we'd so infrequently seen

1860
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: him sit down and actually give deep, honest takes on

1861
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: things that it was a perfect storm in term of timing.

1862
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 2: But I think it would have gotten there anyway, Luke,

1863
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 2: And I think in terms of that debate, how could

1864
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 2: you even after watching that, how could you ever debate,

1865
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 2: you know, Lebron's better than him afterwards?

1866
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean Nick Wright will certainly give you

1867
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: a run for your money on that idea. I don't

1868
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: have an opinion with information good enough to weigh in.

1869
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: MJ made a bigger imprint in my life given the

1870
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: time in which he made his run, which was my

1871
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, my teens and you know, basically my teenage years,

1872
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: because I was in ninety eight. I was eighteen, so

1873
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: when he made his final stand, I was, you know,

1874
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: the the peak of high school, and so that really

1875
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 1: made the most difference to me. But it's just kind

1876
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: of funny. IVE been thinking about this. Lebron's had to

1877
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: be very quiet. Well, mj has gotten all this brand

1878
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 1: new shine. It has made people like Nick Wright, who

1879
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: I love very much, work overtime to like reframe the debate.

1880
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: Lebron's gotta be pissed, bro, He's got to.

1881
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 2: Well, the best thing LA can do, think about it,

1882
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 2: the best thing outside of win more championships, right, the

1883
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: best thing Lebron can do is just stay consistently healthy

1884
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 2: and be able to be the one player now that

1885
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 2: the Kareem has probably the best reputation for being great,

1886
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: really old. But if Lebron can like break the all

1887
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: time scoring record and just be able to keep at

1888
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 2: such an incredibly high level into his late thirties and

1889
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,599
Speaker 2: even forty and not eventually play along with his son,

1890
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: maybe even you know, that's the best chance he has

1891
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 2: at closing that gap. But when you're comparing great versus great,

1892
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 2: something has to separate, and in the end, winning does,

1893
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: and Jordan's a better winner. I mean, you know, you

1894
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 2: can't argue with with six and eight years.

1895
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 1: No, I just had to think. Arguments like he's a

1896
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: better winner don't mean anything they do.

1897
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 2: When comparing because.

1898
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: I think you want to I think if you want

1899
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: to say he was a better competitor and he had

1900
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 1: a better competitive mindset, especially, like.

1901
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: That's what that's what it is, that's what being a

1902
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 2: better win.

1903
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: So than say that, but just say he's a better winner.

1904
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. But if you want

1905
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: to say, like the way in which Lebron collapsed in

1906
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 1: some of those heat series, sure that's something that Jordan

1907
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: was not functionally capable of. I think that part is true.

1908
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 2: No, really, And that's that was That was probably the

1909
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: best thing that that doc did to show that it

1910
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 2: wasn't just a single minded ruthlessness to want to step

1911
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 2: on your throat and finish you off. The other side

1912
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 2: of that was the hope and the faith. And I

1913
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 2: don't mean from a spiritual sense, but from a standpoint

1914
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 2: of like Jordan always believed that he was gonna win

1915
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 2: and never fed into, you know, the pressures or fears

1916
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 2: or anything like that. So he didn't have like Pippin's

1917
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: a great player. But Pippen kind of comes off a

1918
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 2: little bit bad in this all larger documentary because he's

1919
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: had some major missteps, you know, the Kuk coach moment.

1920
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 2: He's had moments like that where you know, Lebron's had

1921
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 2: a Lebron's teased a few of those. What professionally, Jordan

1922
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: has no like, there's no holes, there's no failure, there's

1923
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 2: no big you know. I mean, he probably was up

1924
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: all night with a bunch of women and yet still

1925
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 2: carried them in the Flu game the next day.

1926
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 1: Now, it was funny. CBS Sports tweeted, I don't know

1927
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: how long ago, what's your hot take that you refuse

1928
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 1: to let die be se And the one I went with,

1929
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: unsurprisingly was I am not automatically offended at pedus in sports.

1930
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: And the reason why I bring that up is next week.

1931
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: I think next week, but I think the next documentary.

1932
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: They're going to be showing two on ESPN, one about

1933
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Bruce Lee and then the other one about Lance Armstrong.

1934
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Level of enthusiasm for either of those, oh, huge, huge.

1935
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 2: For both, huge for both, you know, and I'm relatively

1936
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 2: untapped personally on the real like the deep details of

1937
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: both's life and career. Obviously know from a general sporting

1938
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 2: fan or you know, pop culture fan of who they

1939
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 2: were and what they contributed. But I'm really interested, like

1940
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 2: people who didn't grow up in the nineties watching Jordan

1941
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 2: to really be able to dig in deep on all

1942
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 2: those little moments.

1943
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Speaker 1: Fair Enough, with that in mind, let's remind everyone a

1944
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Speaker 1: couple of things. First of all, if you want to

1945
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1946
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1947
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Speaker 1: If you'll like it, you can keep it. If not,

1948
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Speaker 1: you can bounce. It is entirely up to you. We

1949
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 1: leave that in your very capable hands and judgment. We

1950
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: recommend it. By the way, I saw the KD in

1951
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: the Water Prince George's County documentary about DC basketball over

1952
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: the weekend. That is so good. Brian Campbell, if you've

1953
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: not seen it, I recommend that. And then, of course,

1954
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Speaker 1: why don't you give us a little bit of a

1955
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1958
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1959
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1960
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Speaker 1: the finish lines in terms of, you know, some viewership goals,

1961
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Speaker 1: some subscriber goals. You know what I'm saying.

1962
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Speaker 2: If you like Morning Coombat, if you've loved some of

1963
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Speaker 2: the things that we've teased and spinned off with right

1964
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1965
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1966
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Speaker 2: you like our Morning Combat Strikeforce Classic show where Luke

1967
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Speaker 2: and I hook up with more Ronaldo, Scott Kocher and

1968
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Speaker 2: company and relive great fights. We could be doing a

1969
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Speaker 2: lot more of that, but we need you to come

1970
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1971
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1972
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Speaker 2: Please do that, Tell your friends, retweet, spread it around.

1973
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 2: It's like an STD in a small circle of close friends. Luke,

1974
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 2: you know you're willing to share it. Everyone's gonna get

1975
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 2: this is.

1976
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: Just your story. I had a buddy of mine who

1977
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: kept getting the clap and his dad was a doctor,

1978
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: and he would just call his dad and get a

1979
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: prescription for medications every time he did. And I was like,

1980
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: why don't you just stop getting the clap He's like

1981
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 1: his dad will just write a prescription. I'm like, right, right, okay,

1982
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: well you're diseased quite literally.

1983
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Speaker 2: I like that story. It was an awful story. But

1984
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 2: I like that you had the guts to share it, Luke, okay,

1985
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 2: because normally I'm the guy who gets painted like that.

1986
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 2: Look you, we can't. I would love to just keep

1987
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 2: yacking with you, but you probably have a few other jobs, right.

1988
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Speaker 1: I got a few other jobs I gotta get to.

1989
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Speaker 1: So I want to thank everyone who watched on let's see,

1990
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 1: last Wednesday. I want to thank everyone who watched on Friday.

1991
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Speaker 1: I want to thank everybody who watched today. We really

1992
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Speaker 1: appreciate it. That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomason. Until next

1993
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Speaker 1: time for everyone at showtime in Malka Sports, May all

1994
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Speaker 1: of your gains be loyal