Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome back to Happy Hour listeners. This
Speaker 1: is Michelle Young. I'm going to be your solo host
Speaker 1: today as Becca could not make it, so until she
Speaker 1: returns next week, I'm going to be holding down the fort.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited because we are having our guests Brooklyn
Speaker 1: on today. I have so many questions to ask her
Speaker 1: about her time in the rodeo, about this huge week
Speaker 1: that she spent in London while Zach had COVID. But
Speaker 1: before we bring her on today, I'm going to fill
Speaker 1: you in with some things that I've been up to.
Speaker 1: I've been so excited. I've been teasing a lot of
Speaker 1: the different activities, different organizations, different launches that I have
Speaker 1: coming up. And I'm so proud to officially announce that
Speaker 1: my website, Michelle Young Official dot com is actually launching
Speaker 1: and by the time it's come out comes out, it's
Speaker 1: actually going to be launched. But again that's Michelle Young
Speaker 1: Official dot Com. It's going to showcase all the different
Speaker 1: foundations orzations, nonprofits campaigns that I am running. In the
Speaker 1: next year. It's going to focus on showcasing all of
Speaker 1: those due diligences, all those giving back events that I've
Speaker 1: promised so much to my followers and that I've tried
Speaker 1: to involve fans and followers with becoming an impact alongside
Speaker 1: of me, and so please make sure to go check
Speaker 1: that out. But before we bring in Brooklyn, we have
Speaker 1: to recap last night's episode. There was so much that
Speaker 1: was happening, and as I was watching first, I have
Speaker 1: to start off by saying, I'm truly enjoying watching Gabby
Speaker 1: and Zach in their connection together. It seems like one
Speaker 1: of the most genuine connections on the screen. Honestly as
Speaker 1: a viewer, as somebody who has gone through it with
Speaker 1: all of the cameras around, I feel like I forget
Speaker 1: that this isn't even a TV show when I'm watching
Speaker 1: them together, and absolutely loved their whole royal perfume creation date. Gabby.
Speaker 1: I'll say one of my favorite piece parts about Gabby
Speaker 1: is just she's quirky. She seems down to earth. As
Speaker 1: they're trying out these different perfumes, you know, you're in
Speaker 1: a royal setting, it's like a high classy setting, and
Speaker 1: this girl is labeling these scents as sour Patch, Christmas
Speaker 1: Tree with a little bit of marijuana, body owner, whatever
Speaker 1: it is leave it to Gabby to bring everything back
Speaker 1: down to earth, regardless if we're in London, regardless if
Speaker 1: we are running around with the royal quirkies. But I
Speaker 1: will say that I truly, truly do love watching their connection.
Speaker 1: My only question and I'm so curious this is maybe
Speaker 1: something that I should ask on my social media story.
Speaker 1: But happy our listeners. Zabby the scent Zabby for Zach
Speaker 1: and Gabby. Nobody ever gave an description of what that's
Speaker 1: scent would be like. So I'm truly curious with you guys.
Speaker 1: Let me know as I post this on my store,
Speaker 1: give us some feedback. If you had to figure out
Speaker 1: or guess what the perfume scent of Zabby would be,
Speaker 1: what would it smell like? Let's be honest, but also
Speaker 1: let's be nice. Okay, moving forward, I will say this, Gabby,
Speaker 1: she was the one who got the fashion date. I'll
Speaker 1: say it's so so tricky to watch these dates. I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a fashion date every single every single season.
Speaker 1: And as a person who's been on that couch while
Speaker 1: somebody is you know, receiving the dresses and talking about
Speaker 1: all these different experiences and this glamorous like fashion show
Speaker 1: cutee date that we all really want and dream of
Speaker 1: as we were little girls. It's so uncomfortable to like
Speaker 1: put yourself back in that position to truly feel those
Speaker 1: so I did feel for the girls. There's also got
Speaker 1: to be some type of statistic and correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, But there's gonna be some kind of statistic
Speaker 1: that goes back to the person who gets the shopping date.
Speaker 1: Nearly always makes it to the final four, if not wins.
Speaker 1: Rachel Kirkconnell, Susie. I believe Susie and Clayton were on
Speaker 1: their date, right, Becca kou friend she was on the
Speaker 1: shopping date. So honestly, this might be a small little
Speaker 1: insight of who's taking home the final Rose of this season.
Speaker 1: That's just my guess. But anyways, I want to know.
Speaker 1: I want to know what you think. I want to
Speaker 1: know what you think about Zabby. I want to know
Speaker 1: what you think about this whole concept of flexing this
Speaker 1: fashion date in front of all these other women, but
Speaker 1: also doing it and also enjoying yourself as well. I
Speaker 1: will say that at the ends of the app episod,
Speaker 1: or actually at the end of the one on one,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that first at the end of the
Speaker 1: one on one Zach and Gabby, they truly look like
Speaker 1: I thought they were going to say I love you.
Speaker 1: They didn't, but I truly thought and felt everything that
Speaker 1: they were saying to each other moving into the rest
Speaker 1: of the episode. It was pretty obvious for me watching
Speaker 1: that at the start of the date, when Zach didn't
Speaker 1: show up, and he didn't show up and surprise the
Speaker 1: girls as they were exploring London, you could totally see
Speaker 1: that the weather just completely coordinated with how the women
Speaker 1: were feeling. I felt for them on this date. It's
Speaker 1: really hard because it's an experience that you want to
Speaker 1: be grateful for. You're traveling the world, you're falling in love,
Speaker 1: there's so many exciting things that are happening. But also
Speaker 1: on the flip side, to be in this position, you
Speaker 1: have to give up so many different aspects of your life.
Speaker 1: You have to give up talking to your friends and family,
Speaker 1: you have to give up work, you have to give
Speaker 1: up school. You would totally put your life on pause
Speaker 1: to be here for this person, and so to go
Speaker 1: through this to really have to have a sharp learning
Speaker 1: curve of what being on this show is like, to
Speaker 1: stay vulnerable to navigate drama, to figure out your own feelings,
Speaker 1: to overcome honestly, just the physical and emotional aspects of
Speaker 1: this environment is truly a difficult thing. And so to
Speaker 1: watch those girls today really get amped up to seeing Zach.
Speaker 1: They're in London, they're excited, they're finally on the road,
Speaker 1: they're traveling all these to new location, and Zach gets sick.
Speaker 1: But for these girls to then go throughout the whole
Speaker 1: day exploring overcoming it, lifting each other up, getting there,
Speaker 1: just attitude and overall morale backup to only then come
Speaker 1: back to a cocktail party that is not going to
Speaker 1: happen because tested positive for COVID. So I truly I
Speaker 1: feel for these women. It was a rough go. It
Speaker 1: was exhausting, and honestly, I can I can understand why
Speaker 1: just all these different women are having the feelings that
Speaker 1: they're having. And it's a mix of emotions of really
Speaker 1: being frustrated with putting your life on hold for this person,
Speaker 1: feeling worried for this person, but also feeling exhausted as
Speaker 1: we move in. I will say when Jesse came in
Speaker 1: and he mentioned that this is the first time in
Speaker 1: history that something happened, it's probably the first time that
Speaker 1: I believed this phrase. We've all heard it before historically,
Speaker 1: break in something that's never happened before. That's a common
Speaker 1: common phrase in this franchise. But I can attest that
Speaker 1: this truly is the first time that a roastory morning,
Speaker 1: or excuse me, a rose ceremony was taken place virtually,
Speaker 1: which I think we all thought was out of the
Speaker 1: question as we've somewhat navigated out of COVID, and for
Speaker 1: these women to have to get dressed up, for Zach
Speaker 1: to honestly kind of a sweetheart with the fact that
Speaker 1: he was willing to set up and put all of
Speaker 1: these different cameras, and I can only imagine all the
Speaker 1: coordination that coordinating that took place with having to have
Speaker 1: Zach do all of that set up himself. I do
Speaker 1: remember briefly speaking to some producers about that actually happened,
Speaker 1: like that he was actually in charge of setting up
Speaker 1: all of his camera work, because what they didn't want
Speaker 1: to happen is they didn't want him to spread COVID
Speaker 1: to any of the other camera people, to any of
Speaker 1: the other producers, and so they truly were like talking
Speaker 1: to him through zoom to be able to get him
Speaker 1: to set up all of the mics, all of the cameras,
Speaker 1: all the different footage, all the different tech pieces that
Speaker 1: go on behind the camera, so that they could take
Speaker 1: part in this virtual rose ceremony. So as these women,
Speaker 1: I could see it on their faces, as these women
Speaker 1: were notified that this is going to be a virtual
Speaker 1: rose ceremony, I feel like some of them, actually, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say some of them. I feel
Speaker 1: like most of them put a smile on. But also
Speaker 1: I think a lot of them really felt the fact
Speaker 1: that not only might you not receive a rose, you
Speaker 1: might now actually get sent home virtually. And as if
Speaker 1: earning a rose or not sorry, as if not earning
Speaker 1: a rose is bad enough to get dumped, take it
Speaker 1: from somebody knows, get dumped over the phone or over
Speaker 1: FaceTime or over zoom sucks. And especially I can't remember
Speaker 1: who said this, but I do remember one of the
Speaker 1: girls saying that as these decisions were made, you don't
Speaker 1: receive that piece of closure of like hugging somebody goodbye,
Speaker 1: like that physical touch. I don't know about you, guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm very much like talking something through like after
Speaker 1: a breakup or having that piece of closure is something
Speaker 1: that's already really tough to gain in this situation because
Speaker 1: you don't get to have a conversation, you don't get
Speaker 1: to be able to like sit and sort things out
Speaker 1: when you're at like this early in the journey, and
Speaker 1: so that in itself it was already difficult. But to
Speaker 1: now get sent home through a man speaking to you
Speaker 1: or on a screen who you put your life on
Speaker 1: pause for, to not hug him, to not do any
Speaker 1: of that, and to just get sent home across the country,
Speaker 1: that's pretty tough. That's pretty tough. So I do feel
Speaker 1: for the girls who didn't receive that closure. But what
Speaker 1: can I say is showbiz and props to Zach for
Speaker 1: pushing through because not feeling well having COVID, having to
Speaker 1: actually navigate that situation when you truly can't be in
Speaker 1: the same room as anybody else because you don't want
Speaker 1: get anyone sick, it's the best that you can do.
Speaker 1: So it definitely gave a plot twist. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of different interesting events that took place in last
Speaker 1: night's episode, But what is even more interesting moving forward,
Speaker 1: or what I'm even more excited about, is not so
Speaker 1: much what took place in the episode, but who we're
Speaker 1: having on our episode today, and so we are going
Speaker 1: to bring in Brooklyn. I have all the questions for her.
Speaker 1: There's been so much that she's been outspoken for, and
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to get down to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1: Let's bring her in. Welcome. Brooklyn Beckett is so sad
Speaker 1: that she couldn't be here today. She's really looking forward
Speaker 1: to talking to So you're stuck with me, but we're
Speaker 1: still going to get down to the bottom of everything
Speaker 1: and completely just talk about everything that got to you
Speaker 1: to this point, everything that has happened so far on
Speaker 1: the episodes, and also have you give us a teaser?
Speaker 1: But first, how are you? I'm doing great. I'm just
Speaker 1: so excited to be here. I'm this is just awesome.
Speaker 1: It's this realis is really happening, It's real. Where are
Speaker 1: you located right now? I'm in Dallas right now. My
Speaker 1: grandma just had a knee replacement, so I came down
Speaker 1: to help out as best I could. But she's doing good.
Speaker 1: So oh that's so. That's so nice of you to
Speaker 1: help out family with everything. So we're going to dive
Speaker 1: into everything, okay, because I have so many questions for you.
Speaker 1: But first off, how did you come about to being
Speaker 1: on this show? So I have been a huge fan
Speaker 1: of the show. I mean since I was young. I know,
Speaker 1: growing up my mom watched the show, and I've always
Speaker 1: watched it. And then in college, like we have a
Speaker 1: bunch of girls' nights together and we'd all watch it.
Speaker 1: It's actually funny. We you know, always joked, oh Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: like you should do it, you should do it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, whatever, like you know, just kind of
Speaker 1: blowing it off. And I want to say it was
Speaker 1: Peter's season. We were watching the finale and I was
Speaker 1: at a friend's house, my friend's summer and we all
Speaker 1: were in like prom dresses, old prom dresses, we like,
Speaker 1: dressed up like a rose ceremony. And I posted it
Speaker 1: on Instagram and I was like, catch us on the
Speaker 1: next season of The Bachelor, like just joking, no, and
Speaker 1: it was I mean, it went all over my hometown.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh my god, Brooklyn's gonna be on the Bachelor.
Speaker 1: And it was like, guys, no, it's just a joke.
Speaker 1: It's just a joke. And then and four years later,
Speaker 1: here I am um, but you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: we'd always joked about it, and I had some friends
Speaker 1: that nominated me, and then UM, They're like, you should
Speaker 1: just go ahead and apply yourself. And I was like, okay, fine, like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. And I did, and then um,
Speaker 1: almost a year later, I think, UM casting reached out
Speaker 1: to me and it's just been fusined ahead ever since. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so one, I love the fact that you and your
Speaker 1: friends got so into it that you wore your prom dresses. Two,
Speaker 1: I kind of wish that you would have. Did you
Speaker 1: bring the dress on the show? I did? So you did?
Speaker 1: Are the second road ceremony? What color was it? It
Speaker 1: was like the black one that was cut out like
Speaker 1: with sheer, kind of like on the sides. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's so symbolic. I know. That's so symbolic. What a
Speaker 1: turning of event. That's amazing, totally meant to be. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so you applied, you said over a year ago, so
Speaker 1: like this was a process, like this actually took some time. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I got the call, it was like an LA
Speaker 1: number and I was like, I didn't answer. I was
Speaker 1: actually in California to work training and I didn't answer.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, this is a scam phone call or something.
Speaker 1: And then I got a text and I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll call back and see what this is about.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm not a scam. Interesting whoa Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: so you applied and then a year's a long time,
Speaker 1: so like they reached out. A year later is when
Speaker 1: they reached out. You said, right, yeah, so did you
Speaker 1: during that time at what point where You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting a call back or I'm like do
Speaker 1: you start dating in between that? Do you how do
Speaker 1: you deal with that? And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: twelve months later they're like, hey, wait, we want to
Speaker 1: interview with you with about coming on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually, I mean honestly, I kind of had forgot
Speaker 1: that I applied because I was just like, oh, like
Speaker 1: it'll never happen, like whatever, you know, just doing it
Speaker 1: kind of to make my friends happy, even though like
Speaker 1: I wanted it. I sort of dating around here and there,
Speaker 1: but you know, nothing was really working for me, and
Speaker 1: I just wasn't really into anything or anyone or didn't
Speaker 1: really want to try the apps either. So it was
Speaker 1: honestly just like using that time as kind of getting
Speaker 1: to know myself again and basically healing and just kind
Speaker 1: of spending time to myself selfishly. So I didn't think
Speaker 1: too much about not getting a call back, and then
Speaker 1: when I did, I was like this, I was at
Speaker 1: a good place. It was like this, I think this
Speaker 1: is it. This is for me. So I was all in,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Okay, wait, so when you get this call,
Speaker 1: you are brought out to La on a far so,
Speaker 1: like to jog everybody's memory, Brooklyn was one of the
Speaker 1: women who was basically got to come on the Afar
Speaker 1: show and meet Zach ahead of everybody else. One like,
Speaker 1: did you know that it was going to be Zach?
Speaker 1: And how much ahead of time? I how much time
Speaker 1: as you have to prepare it to actually once you
Speaker 1: got on the stage physically got on the stage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I did not know for sure if it was
Speaker 1: going to be Zach. But beforehand, you know, my mom's
Speaker 1: googling everything, she's looking up spoilers as much as she can,
Speaker 1: and she's sending me all this stuff and she's like,
Speaker 1: I really think it's going to be Zach. And he
Speaker 1: was definitely who I wanted it to be. And I
Speaker 1: was like okay, like, don't get my hopes up, mom, Like,
Speaker 1: I love the enthusiasm, but let's not get our hopes up.
Speaker 1: But it was definitely in the back of my mind
Speaker 1: the whole time until they finally told me. So then
Speaker 1: I was super excited to find out was him because
Speaker 1: I watched the previous season and really just felt drawn
Speaker 1: to him and really liked what I saw on top
Speaker 1: of him just being good looking. And then as far
Speaker 1: as getting ready, we had a quick walk through. It
Speaker 1: was kind of like surprised, here we go, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god. I mean, if you remember watching,
Speaker 1: because I was a little nervous, but so worth it,
Speaker 1: so glad it happened, and I feel really special that
Speaker 1: I was chosen, that it was incredible. How would you
Speaker 1: say what you like the characteristics that you knew about
Speaker 1: Zach before stepping on that stage, like the things that
Speaker 1: drew you to him. How would you say that, like
Speaker 1: he was different than the men in the rodeo dating scene? Oh,
Speaker 1: tricky question. I feel like with Zach, he definitely knows
Speaker 1: what he wants. He doesn't really question himself or you
Speaker 1: know what he wants. He's very emotionally intelligent and is
Speaker 1: able to have, you know, those harder conversations, so serious
Speaker 1: conversations that not a lot of men have that emotional capacity.
Speaker 1: I guess you could say. So I really liked that
Speaker 1: about him, and I really liked how sure he was
Speaker 1: with what he wanted and who he was. It says
Speaker 1: a lot about a person, and I really admired that.
Speaker 1: I love that. Actually, that seems to be a very
Speaker 1: common answer, just perception of Zach that he truly like
Speaker 1: came into this we didn't know a lot about him necessarily,
Speaker 1: but that he really actually knew what he wanted in
Speaker 1: a partner and have the confidence or intention with that.
Speaker 1: So that's one thing that I can admire. But how
Speaker 1: is there is there a rodeo dating scene? Because I
Speaker 1: know that our listeners are going to want to know
Speaker 1: that has been like one of the biggest like focus
Speaker 1: is what all the buzz is about? Everybody's so curious
Speaker 1: about your rodeo life. And do you get really sick
Speaker 1: of people asking questions about it? No? No, I don't
Speaker 1: asking questions about it. I love it. It's it's you
Speaker 1: know who I am. It's a lifestyle. I love everything
Speaker 1: about it. I would definitely say yes, there is a
Speaker 1: dating scene in the Rodeo world. It's a small world,
Speaker 1: so pretty much everyone knows each other. A majority of
Speaker 1: us all grew up together. I've actually really never dated
Speaker 1: anyone that's Rodeo, just because then I'd have to go
Speaker 1: with them to the road and oh I never thought
Speaker 1: about that. It's like dating in a small town. Oh
Speaker 1: for sure. Yea, everybody does everybody did each other? Hey,
Speaker 1: that's how I was gonna say, does everyone did each other?
Speaker 1: I'm like, this sounds like yeah. I was like, sounds
Speaker 1: like Bachelor exactly. Yeah. Well, did you get any advice
Speaker 1: from any of your friends? I know that you said
Speaker 1: that you guys really we're like true Bachelor Nation fans.
Speaker 1: Before you were on the show, did you have any
Speaker 1: advice or did you come into it with like any
Speaker 1: strategies just because you did know a little bit about
Speaker 1: how things work. So I was pretty quiet about actually
Speaker 1: coming on the show. I didn't really tell many of
Speaker 1: my friends. I told some of them, like as in
Speaker 1: two and then my family. So as far as advice,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was kind of you know, your typical
Speaker 1: just be yourself, But like that one is a big
Speaker 1: one to me. I think you know, especially with such
Speaker 1: a short time to get to know someone, you have
Speaker 1: to truly be yourself, like right out of the gate
Speaker 1: for someone to get to know you. So I really
Speaker 1: took that one and ran with it. I feel like.
Speaker 1: But as far as like my big like Bachelor fan friends,
Speaker 1: they had no idea. Okay, they saw me on the
Speaker 1: live show and when I finally got my phone back,
Speaker 1: they were like, oh my god. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bother texting back now. It's been too long.
Speaker 1: So you went straight from the live show to filming? Yes?
Speaker 1: Is that right? Wow? What a turnament. That's crazy? So
Speaker 1: how much time passed? Were like, you have your first
Speaker 1: night and you meet this man, the man that you
Speaker 1: actually wanted to be the Bachelor, and you have this interaction.
Speaker 1: Did you feel spark like? I'm sure you were nervous,
Speaker 1: but what did you feel like when you were stepping
Speaker 1: up on that stage. I was definitely nervous. I it
Speaker 1: was a blur, Honestly, I feel like I almost like
Speaker 1: blacked out and barely remember it. I had to go
Speaker 1: back and rewatch it. But like, once the dust settled
Speaker 1: and I like caught my breath, took deep breaths and
Speaker 1: thought about everything. I did definitely feel a spark. I
Speaker 1: mean I was terrified. I was the first to go
Speaker 1: up there, and it was almost like a surprise. But once,
Speaker 1: like I said, once I kind of let the dust
Speaker 1: settle and everything calmed down. I just I definitely felt
Speaker 1: drawn to him and I felt a connection. So I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you can tell when you first meet someone
Speaker 1: if you think there's potential or not, and I definitely
Speaker 1: felt there was. I felt safe and secure and comfortable
Speaker 1: talking to him, even though I was absolutely terrified. So
Speaker 1: I think that was important that I felt that moving forward. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then first night, was it a little bit easier
Speaker 1: to step out of that limo just because you had
Speaker 1: met him before? Or was it even more nerve racking,
Speaker 1: because I mean you could have this fear of like
Speaker 1: what if he doesn't remember me, or you know, what
Speaker 1: if our interaction goes differently? What were your like actual
Speaker 1: internal emotions or thoughts before stepping out of that limo.
Speaker 1: I was definitely still nervous. How Ever, I kind of
Speaker 1: felt a calming sense just because you know, to me,
Speaker 1: seeing a familiar face helps me, and I was hoping
Speaker 1: like him, seeing a familiar face, even if he didn't
Speaker 1: remember my name, would be calming to him. And because
Speaker 1: I know he's going through all the emotions too, I
Speaker 1: wasn't too worried about if he remembered who I was
Speaker 1: or not, which he did, so that made me feel
Speaker 1: a little better. I was. I was a lot more
Speaker 1: relaxed than the first night, I think, but I'm still
Speaker 1: crazy nervous because it is there, iconic they were, and
Speaker 1: it's back at the mansion, like it's right that I
Speaker 1: can't even imagine. I cannot even imagine, but kind of
Speaker 1: nice to have, like a little bit of the first
Speaker 1: type of nerves, like the blackout nerves that we all
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna get, and then we get. No
Speaker 1: matter how comfortable you are in front of like camera's lights, anything,
Speaker 1: there's no way to avoid that. I don't know anybody
Speaker 1: who remembers their entrance. Yeah, I got to remember my
Speaker 1: Internet heart because I already black down on stage exactly perfect.
Speaker 1: I love that. So Okay, so we really do get
Speaker 1: to see you and Zach's connection take like form right
Speaker 1: off the bat, and you get to go on this
Speaker 1: one on one with him and the Bahamas, and there's
Speaker 1: all this like building up, and then I would say
Speaker 1: that it kind of that doesn't take like a backseat,
Speaker 1: but we just don't really see the connection as much
Speaker 1: there after that. How would you describe your connection with
Speaker 1: Zach during that time. I definitely feel like our connection,
Speaker 1: you know, building up to the one on one was steady,
Speaker 1: and then I feel like once we had our one
Speaker 1: on one, I felt so comfortable with him, being able
Speaker 1: to share and be so vulnerable with him, that it
Speaker 1: took a complete like skyrocket, you know, being so vulnerable
Speaker 1: with someone like that and it being received so well
Speaker 1: is very important in any connection, but especially in a
Speaker 1: romantic relationship. So feeling that I did feel the connection
Speaker 1: of a lot faster, a lot further, but in a
Speaker 1: good way and definitely in the right direction. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to definitely give you some time to kind of
Speaker 1: like dive into just the conversation that you had with
Speaker 1: Zach as much in detail or little as detail as
Speaker 1: you are comfortable and you would like to, you know,
Speaker 1: going on that one on one day, everyone kind of
Speaker 1: knows like the day portion is for like this adventure
Speaker 1: and this fun piece, and then you know that the
Speaker 1: night portion is kind of where you have the more
Speaker 1: serious conversations. Was that something that like waking up that
Speaker 1: morning or just or I guess after figuring out that
Speaker 1: you're going on that one on one? Is that something
Speaker 1: that was in the forefront of your mind of this
Speaker 1: is something I really want him to know about me
Speaker 1: right off the bat. Yes, absolutely, you know, I was
Speaker 1: super excited to have a one on one, But like
Speaker 1: he said, like in the back of my mind, was
Speaker 1: am I ready to share this with him? Is he
Speaker 1: ready to hear this? Like I didn't want him to
Speaker 1: feel like I was trauma dumping on him or anything like.
Speaker 1: But I feel sharing about my past relationship with any
Speaker 1: new relationship is very important and it's not something I've
Speaker 1: really been able to do in past relationships, just because
Speaker 1: it's shaped me to who I am and it gives
Speaker 1: him just a little bit more information on why I
Speaker 1: am the way that I am and how I handle things,
Speaker 1: how I see things in my perception of, you know,
Speaker 1: relationships moving forward. So it was on my mind. It
Speaker 1: was you know, that's a lot of what I thought
Speaker 1: about was like, Okay, the day is so much fun,
Speaker 1: I'm having a great time. But then it was like
Speaker 1: lingering cloud I was like, oh my god, Like I
Speaker 1: knew it was I felt comfortable and I felt safe
Speaker 1: doing it, but I was like, is this going to
Speaker 1: be too much? Is this you know, is this really
Speaker 1: what I should do at this point? But you know,
Speaker 1: it floats so naturally that I was happy everything happened
Speaker 1: the way that it did, but it was definitely on
Speaker 1: my mind of is now a time? Yeah, I will
Speaker 1: say that I really do applaud with how you handle
Speaker 1: that entire situation. And you use the words trauma dumping, right,
Speaker 1: and like that's a huge phrase. I guess you can
Speaker 1: call it that. It's not even so much the contestants
Speaker 1: use it, but like the viewers use it. That's somebody
Speaker 1: who's watched the show, like you said, you have. It's
Speaker 1: like you really do hear these stories, and it kind
Speaker 1: of it can seem to viewers that it's trauma dumping.
Speaker 1: But what's so hard is that for us walking in
Speaker 1: and having these conversations, for somebody like you was having
Speaker 1: these conversations, you almost have to like your relationship moves
Speaker 1: so fast and so serious and it's so real and
Speaker 1: it's for an engagement, and so it's like it really
Speaker 1: does puts you in a position where you have to
Speaker 1: be confident or courageous I guess, and brave enough to
Speaker 1: have these conversations because you are doing it in front
Speaker 1: of the camera, which one incredibly vulnerable. It's an incredibly
Speaker 1: strong thing to do and to talk about and to
Speaker 1: kind of just really put your life out there and
Speaker 1: the struggles that you've had and really like connect with
Speaker 1: not only Zach but a lot of other people who
Speaker 1: are watching the show and who have been through similar things.
Speaker 1: And to not even just like watch you speak about
Speaker 1: it and to watch you connect with Zac about it,
Speaker 1: and to see Zach respond to you, and just to
Speaker 1: see a healthy conversation around past trauma was something that
Speaker 1: was really just even impactful for me to watch so truly, like,
Speaker 1: I really do applaud you for how you handle the situation,
Speaker 1: how you spoke about that. I know that's not easy.
Speaker 1: I know it's always kind of trying to navigate when
Speaker 1: the right time is to have those conversations. But in
Speaker 1: my book, if if it's something that you need to
Speaker 1: talk about, it's the right time, and like it's right
Speaker 1: if it's something that's important to you, it's the right time. Shit,
Speaker 1: regardless if you're jumping out of a plane, regardless if
Speaker 1: you're whatever you're doing, whatever you're doing on an adventurous
Speaker 1: date in the Bahamas, Like, if it's something that's weighing
Speaker 1: on you, especially in the situation where it's a serious
Speaker 1: relationship engagement, commitment, like talk about it. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: very much, very much. Start, So you guys have this conversation,
Speaker 1: and how did you feel about how Zach responded because
Speaker 1: I kind of give my opinion with how he handled it,
Speaker 1: But what did you have worries about talking about this?
Speaker 1: Did you have worries about how it was received and
Speaker 1: like has it been received differently maybe in the past
Speaker 1: and other relationships. Yeah, I definitely did have worries and
Speaker 1: reservations going into it sharing that with him, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't want me telling him that to make him think, Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean like she's she's still dealing with this or
Speaker 1: she's not healed. Like that's not the case. Like I'm
Speaker 1: I definitely feel like I'm healing every day. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like you have to choose to continue to heal
Speaker 1: every day after situations like that and with other situations
Speaker 1: as well. So I was concerned that he would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe like she still needs to like work some stuff out.
Speaker 1: But that was the complete opposite of how he handled
Speaker 1: and how he reacted. He was very receptive. He was
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, not just like oh okay, gotcha. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. You know, I could feel that, not that
Speaker 1: I wanted to hurt him, but that he hurt with me.
Speaker 1: Not like I said, I don't want anyone to hurt
Speaker 1: or anything, and I didn't want him to hurt too.
Speaker 1: But it just showed that he cared, and he was
Speaker 1: listening intently and that he was hearing everything I had
Speaker 1: to say and taking it seriously. He didn't ever take
Speaker 1: it the way I thought where he was like, oh gosh,
Speaker 1: she's still healing. He understood that I went through something
Speaker 1: that is really hard and that I have made an
Speaker 1: effort to heal from that and I am continuing to
Speaker 1: make that effort. So he handled it with such grace
Speaker 1: and it was so receptive that all of my worries
Speaker 1: at the time I completely forgot about them at the
Speaker 1: end of the night. That's really I'm very very happy
Speaker 1: to see that. And honestly, that came through the screen
Speaker 1: just you would kind of almost just see your body
Speaker 1: language take like a deep breath after you had taught
Speaker 1: like spoken about it, even like regardless of how it went,
Speaker 1: just a deep breath of like, this is something that
Speaker 1: I've been having, like weighing on you, not even dealing
Speaker 1: with or holding onto, but it's like something that's been
Speaker 1: winging on you that you've kind of had to like
Speaker 1: navigate through. And it seems like your level of trust
Speaker 1: kind of skyrocketed. Would you say that, like the relationship,
Speaker 1: what was like the feeling I guess at the end
Speaker 1: of that night or after that conversation and how it went,
Speaker 1: How do you feel like your connection changed after that?
Speaker 1: Like you said, it truly was a weight lifted off
Speaker 1: my shoulders, and even still like it's just a complete
Speaker 1: weight lifted off my shoulders because like I said, it
Speaker 1: was a cloud just lingering over me. But I feel
Speaker 1: like after that, like I said, our connection to skyrocketed.
Speaker 1: I felt so heard and secure and just safe and
Speaker 1: where I was, you know, sharing something like that. You
Speaker 1: have to feel safe to share that information, and I did.
Speaker 1: And then I really feel like our relationship blossomed a
Speaker 1: lot more than I was expecting, because, like I said,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect going in but very
Speaker 1: I continued to feel very safe in the relationship and
Speaker 1: just felt safer and safer, like I could share anything
Speaker 1: with him. I mean, if I can share that, I
Speaker 1: can share just about anything. Yeah, did you after like
Speaker 1: sharing that? Just I'm curious of just social media and
Speaker 1: just you know, having a platform or just putting yourself
Speaker 1: out there in that vulnerable, vulnerable position in the public eye.
Speaker 1: Did you receive support? Did you have people who really
Speaker 1: like either reached out to you or just related to
Speaker 1: what you had gone through? Yes? Absolutely, the support and
Speaker 1: the love has been overwhelming in the best way possible.
Speaker 1: I have had a lot of people reach out to me,
Speaker 1: and you know, even if they didn't relate to saying
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing, like you could help someone, and
Speaker 1: then other women that have been through similar things just
Speaker 1: sharing and saying thank you. You know, you have showed
Speaker 1: me that you things do get better, you can heal,
Speaker 1: you can't be brave, just stuff like that. And it's
Speaker 1: so hard to respond to everyone because I'm serious. I've
Speaker 1: probably had at least a thousand messages that I've seen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's been you know, just incredible that they feel
Speaker 1: that they can share with me, which of course, anytime
Speaker 1: anyone ever can, but that you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: I if I can help just one person, If me
Speaker 1: sharing my story can benefit at least one person somehow,
Speaker 1: some way, then maybe that's the reason God had me
Speaker 1: go through it. I don't know, but that's what I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell myself. So if they could help one person,
Speaker 1: I'm thankful. And I'm so thankful for just the outpouring
Speaker 1: of love and support I've received since doing that, because
Speaker 1: that was big, it really it was. Yeah, it scared enough.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get I will get emotional right there
Speaker 1: with you, as I can see you're getting emotional now
Speaker 1: just talking about it. But it's in such a such
Speaker 1: an empowering way, and I really am, like, I know,
Speaker 1: we don't haven't known each other for all of what
Speaker 1: thirty minutes we've been talking, right, I really am, though,
Speaker 1: proud of you, just from woman to woman to to
Speaker 1: doing that. And there's a lot of people who've been
Speaker 1: through different things, you know that that they haven't been
Speaker 1: able to share that, and for you to kind of
Speaker 1: set that open that door, just give that reminder of
Speaker 1: people that it's okay to have those conversations is so
Speaker 1: powerful and I know that Charity. You and Charity are
Speaker 1: really closed. We had her on last week and we
Speaker 1: spoke a little bit about your friendship with everything, because
Speaker 1: you can just see that y'all connect, you get each other,
Speaker 1: and she told you just how proud she was of
Speaker 1: you for telling your story. Were the like, how was
Speaker 1: the support with the other women in the house once
Speaker 1: you had opened up, because you know, yeah, the support
Speaker 1: with all the women was incredible. I mean, we had
Speaker 1: a great group of girls. Everyone there was just incredibly
Speaker 1: supportive in all aspects. But opening up about that, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I've heard from every single woman in the
Speaker 1: house just telling me they're proud of me, thanking me
Speaker 1: for doing that for other women, and just being there,
Speaker 1: you know, just saying like I'm proud of you, or
Speaker 1: just being a shoulder to cry on, an ear to listen,
Speaker 1: anything like that. So that support during filming and after
Speaker 1: from all the women has been incredible. Definitely, like you said,
Speaker 1: Charity's my rock, Like she was engraced through the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So I was super thankful to be able to really
Speaker 1: confide in her and dive a lot deeper with her
Speaker 1: in a lot of these conversations but especially that one.
Speaker 1: And I mean not just because of her profession, but
Speaker 1: just her how incredible she is. She really helped me,
Speaker 1: you know, walk it, walk through it, talk through it,
Speaker 1: and it was wonderful, it was amazing, And I'm beyond
Speaker 1: thankful for everyone, but certainly beyond thankful for charity and
Speaker 1: our friendship. Yeah. Absolutely, what would you say to other
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna even say women. I'm gonna just say
Speaker 1: other people in general who might be going through a
Speaker 1: healing process similar to yours or might be going through
Speaker 1: a similar situation. Yeah. Something I would tell anyone in
Speaker 1: this situation or in my past situation healing anything like
Speaker 1: that is you are strong, your courageous, and you're worthy
Speaker 1: of love, first of all, first and foremost. But that
Speaker 1: to remember, healing is not a linear journey. You'll have
Speaker 1: good days, you'll have bad days, and you can't dwell
Speaker 1: on the bad days. Every day is an active choice,
Speaker 1: even you know, the hardest part is leaving. Truthfully, even
Speaker 1: after that, even after you've left, the hardest part, after
Speaker 1: you've done the worst of it, is leaving is just
Speaker 1: choosing to love yourself every day, know your worth and
Speaker 1: to keep moving forward. It is possible and it is
Speaker 1: so worth it. But I would just encourage everyone too,
Speaker 1: in my situation or a previous situation or healing, to
Speaker 1: just keep the strength and keep being strong and choose
Speaker 1: yourself and not to dwell, not to dwell on any
Speaker 1: of the bad days. There is life cool. Healing is
Speaker 1: not linear. I absolutely love the way that you put that.
Speaker 1: And we are going to switch gears into our group day.
Speaker 1: But before we switch gears, just because I know that
Speaker 1: these situations are so important and the conversations are so
Speaker 1: important to have. Is there anything else just that you
Speaker 1: want to get off your chest about this conversation or
Speaker 1: advice or anything related to this journey that you this
Speaker 1: healing journey that you've gone on before. Before we do that,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we've covered you know, the meat
Speaker 1: of it all. You know that it does get better.
Speaker 1: You can't get out of it. Healing snot linear. Those
Speaker 1: are the most important parts, but that you don't have
Speaker 1: to do it alone. You know it's hard reaching out
Speaker 1: for help. It's you know, I like I said, I
Speaker 1: was embarrassed, but you shouldn't be embarrassed. Reaching out for
Speaker 1: help is the best thing you can do. So just
Speaker 1: get straight to it. Truly an inspiration. Thank you for
Speaker 1: sharing that, Brooklyn. So we aren't switch hears on to
Speaker 1: a little bit of this group date, experiencing this magical
Speaker 1: city with Zach right in London, all these other things
Speaker 1: that are going on. But before we go into the
Speaker 1: group date, what are your thoughts on you're sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch with all these women right the infamous couches
Speaker 1: that happen and take place, and the anxiety and stressors
Speaker 1: of sitting on the couches as we wait for the
Speaker 1: dick cards. What were your thoughts or what are your
Speaker 1: thoughts at this point with the other women shedding tears
Speaker 1: over not getting that week's one on one, Totally understandable.
Speaker 1: You know, I had my one on one, so I
Speaker 1: knew I probably wouldn't be getting another one that week.
Speaker 1: But I understand because it's so easy to compare your
Speaker 1: journey to someone else's, and it's so easy to get
Speaker 1: in your head and think, Okay, well there's so much
Speaker 1: further ahead me because they've already had a one on
Speaker 1: one and I'm getting left behind. What if he's not
Speaker 1: into me. It's just so easy to spiral, So I
Speaker 1: totally understand other women being concerned, being upset that they
Speaker 1: haven't got that one on one yet. But it's valid,
Speaker 1: totally valid to feel that way. I think it's such
Speaker 1: an important reminder with what you just said just to
Speaker 1: yours in general, of it is so easy to spiral.
Speaker 1: You could be walking into this environment as the most confident,
Speaker 1: level headed person and it's just like you're in a
Speaker 1: room full of emotions constantly, and whether you're not necessarily
Speaker 1: putting that out, like you're still absorbing other people's anxiety
Speaker 1: and stress and you don't have your normal support system
Speaker 1: near you. You're still trying to figure out what this
Speaker 1: hold is, like, what the hell is actually going on
Speaker 1: in this entire world, Like there's so much that is
Speaker 1: taking place that it's like, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people at home are like, well, she's crying over nothing,
Speaker 1: like you just met him and all these other things,
Speaker 1: but it's such an intense moment. It's like it's constantly
Speaker 1: such an intense moment. Like you said, comparing, there's constant comparisons.
Speaker 1: How did you handle that mentally for yourself with not
Speaker 1: letting your mind spiral or what did you do to
Speaker 1: kind of like reel yourself back in when you really
Speaker 1: felt yourself, like feeling the weight of everything. You know,
Speaker 1: it was hard. There was some days that I would
Speaker 1: spiral more than others. But in order to just kind
Speaker 1: of keep myself sane and grounded, honestly, a lot of
Speaker 1: it was me and Charity talked it out a lot,
Speaker 1: but a lot of it, like with myself, I had
Speaker 1: to just continue to remind myself that comparison is the
Speaker 1: thief of joy and that my walk is different than
Speaker 1: everyone else's. I can't continue to compare myself in any
Speaker 1: way relationship wise. I mean, we're in a room full
Speaker 1: of beautiful, smart women. I can't compare myself there either.
Speaker 1: So it was a constant reminder and beg on like affirmations,
Speaker 1: So constantly reminding myself, affirming myself and just trying to
Speaker 1: kind of take myself out of the stress and you know,
Speaker 1: find a happy place and remind myself that me and
Speaker 1: Zact do have a good connection and be confident in
Speaker 1: what we do have and what I know. Because what
Speaker 1: one person says, you could take it completely out of
Speaker 1: context of like what they're actually saying. They could actually
Speaker 1: be saying, Oh, it's kind of on the rocks but
Speaker 1: it comes across to you like, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: I already know I'm the one, so like, I think,
Speaker 1: just reminding myself that my journey is not theirs was
Speaker 1: the biggest grounding technique I used. Yeah, okay, wait, I'm
Speaker 1: big on an affirmations. It's like one of your go
Speaker 1: to affirmations. I think definitely. It's like I'm strong. You know.
Speaker 1: It's so simple, but yeah, simple, but you know, thinking
Speaker 1: however you need it, apply it wherever you need. That's
Speaker 1: why I like that one, right right. Okay, So we
Speaker 1: know that the group date obviously didn't go quite to plant,
Speaker 1: but it seems like you ended up having like at
Speaker 1: least a little bit of fun. Can you tell us
Speaker 1: about how the day went. Yeah, we have. We had
Speaker 1: a great time. We had a lot of fun. It
Speaker 1: was really disappointing, you know, the way things played out,
Speaker 1: but knowing that Zack still wanted us to have a
Speaker 1: good time was really refreshing and kind. You know, he
Speaker 1: could easily have been like sorry, like y'all just chill
Speaker 1: just hanging out at the hotel, but no, he wanted
Speaker 1: us to have a good time, so that was refreshing.
Speaker 1: But we had a great time. You know, it was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to get to bond with all
Speaker 1: the women even more than you know we already had,
Speaker 1: but also kind of taking the pressure and like the
Speaker 1: awkward part out of a group date, because you know,
Speaker 1: on group dates it's it's so strange because like we're
Speaker 1: all friends and we're rooting for each other, but also
Speaker 1: we're like, okay, she just talked to him twice, like
Speaker 1: come on, like get you can't help but to get jealous.
Speaker 1: So that we got to take that out and just
Speaker 1: really have fun with each other without the clause. There
Speaker 1: are so many like implied rules of respect, I think
Speaker 1: amongst the cast of just how to handle like fight
Speaker 1: for what you want, but also like handle it respectfully
Speaker 1: as possible. I know that the girls. I can't remember
Speaker 1: who said it, but someone was like I was constantly
Speaker 1: waiting for Zac to pop up at what going did
Speaker 1: you realize like this man's not showing up on the stage.
Speaker 1: I was skeptical from the get go when we first
Speaker 1: got the note everyone, I mean, I was like, there's
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like he's not feeling well. There's
Speaker 1: no way if I'm not feeling good, I count me
Speaker 1: out of the rest of the day because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: milk it. Honestly, I don't do love when I'm not
Speaker 1: feeling good. But We're sitting at the cocktail party and
Speaker 1: it had been long enough, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're getting stood up on national television. Not that it
Speaker 1: was his fault, but I was like, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: isn't happening. So it was probably it was during the
Speaker 1: cocktail party that I was like, this is definitely not happening.
Speaker 1: So a little disappointing, but you know, what can you do? It?
Speaker 1: Also does it necessarily like look good on his part
Speaker 1: at that point, So it's like you can like, yes,
Speaker 1: you guys are feeling stood up, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I was like, this looks bad on him, not y'all. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I know there's so many factors that
Speaker 1: go into it, but I was kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: come on, like you could have told us something sooner.
Speaker 1: But I also understand there's so many factors that play
Speaker 1: into it, and I know he'd probably tried his best
Speaker 1: to make it. Um yeah, just didn't go in his direction,
Speaker 1: didn't fall in his favor this time, or okay, so
Speaker 1: I have to ask did anyone get the beef eater
Speaker 1: to flinch? Yeah? We did. Um, I'm not exactly sure
Speaker 1: who or how, but finally we cracked him. He was
Speaker 1: probably just sick of us and like, okay, get him
Speaker 1: out of here, Like if I move and if I flinch,
Speaker 1: will they leave me alone? Oh my gosh. I was
Speaker 1: so surprised, like was it was it an actor or
Speaker 1: like legitimately no, I mean you guys, I'm here watching it,
Speaker 1: like he's gonna get scolded? Can you get fired? Like yeah,
Speaker 1: by the thing? He was like, did you just make
Speaker 1: this poorman listen his job? Did we just get him? Fine?
Speaker 1: Is he going to jail? Like? Right? So, who was
Speaker 1: someone's like torking in this porn man? Yeah? We I
Speaker 1: mean we tried everything. We pulled all the tricks out,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna hope he's an actor. But if
Speaker 1: he's an actor, I mean, like made your skills of
Speaker 1: not fluinching, Like honestly, he did a good job, like
Speaker 1: he oh yeah, he's shown a little bit of personality,
Speaker 1: which like that's not the worst thing. Okay, so don't
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't get in trouble for this. Of course,
Speaker 1: we just like draw more attention to him. But okay,
Speaker 1: so you guys do end up making like the best
Speaker 1: of the day, Like you do turn it around, You
Speaker 1: do like take a moment to pause and realize where
Speaker 1: you're at, and you know, like make the best of
Speaker 1: the opportunity, end up laughing, enjoying each other's company. But
Speaker 1: then that night, going into that night now knowing how
Speaker 1: it played out and like unfortunately Zack's not able to
Speaker 1: make it that evening. Did you feel like between that period,
Speaker 1: like there's a weird period of time where you like
Speaker 1: go on a group jay and then you like run
Speaker 1: back and you're like eating and getting ready and like
Speaker 1: figure out what you're going to talk about that night.
Speaker 1: Did you have any the idea or feeling that he
Speaker 1: was not going to be making it to the cocktail
Speaker 1: party or the after party. Yeah. I kind of had
Speaker 1: a guess that he might not be coming, just because,
Speaker 1: like I said, he wasn't feeling good and if I'm
Speaker 1: not feeling good, I'm not coming either. But I looking
Speaker 1: at like surely he's coming, because he wouldn't have a
Speaker 1: skit ready. I mean, I'm sure he knows how long
Speaker 1: it takes women to get ready. He probably wouldn't have
Speaker 1: it ready for him not to come, So I'm sure
Speaker 1: with that in mind, he tried his very best to
Speaker 1: make an appearance. It just couldn't happen. But I did
Speaker 1: kind of have a rough idea, maybe this isn't happening,
Speaker 1: but I was gonna go find out anyways, because I
Speaker 1: was hoping it would. I love that. I love that energy.
Speaker 1: What was the energy though in the room after hearing
Speaker 1: the news, just the news that he was not going
Speaker 1: to be there, he went the full day hoping to
Speaker 1: be able to see him, like kind of mustering up
Speaker 1: more energy than you had, like whatever energy you had
Speaker 1: left to get ready for this after party, and then
Speaker 1: he doesn't show up again. Yeah, at this point, you
Speaker 1: guys don't know that it's COVID, right, But we didn't
Speaker 1: know at that point. You know, we kind of took
Speaker 1: our guests just because, like if it was a cold
Speaker 1: or something, we were like, oh, he would just be
Speaker 1: like don't kiss me or something like that. But we
Speaker 1: kind of guessed it was something more serious because he
Speaker 1: wouldn't just not show up for something small. The energy
Speaker 1: in the room though, was very a little mixed. It
Speaker 1: was like part like you could tell people were just
Speaker 1: like really bummed and super sad, but you could also
Speaker 1: tell some girls were like genuinely pissed off, which is understandable,
Speaker 1: and I felt both ways. I was super sad. I was.
Speaker 1: We were all concerned for him. We were like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: this obviously has to be something big. I hope he's
Speaker 1: doing Okay, I hope you know it's nothing serious. But
Speaker 1: we were also just really just let down. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I totally get that. And it's like it's souch a
Speaker 1: different dating situation because if you were just normally dating
Speaker 1: at home, you can see them whenever you want, you
Speaker 1: can text, Like normally, if somebody cancels a date and
Speaker 1: they're not feeling well, like you're either talking over texting
Speaker 1: still or like you know, okay, you can reschedule for
Speaker 1: the next day. But this is a situation where you
Speaker 1: don't know the next time you're going to see him,
Speaker 1: absolutely yeah, and then the relationship can just abruptly end.
Speaker 1: So like there's a lot that's on the line here. Definitely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was I think that's also something that went through
Speaker 1: all of our minds. It's like we can't really check
Speaker 1: on him, you know, we can't call him be like
Speaker 1: are you okay? Or he could have you know, in
Speaker 1: a normal situation, he would have been able to text
Speaker 1: us or call us and be like, oh hey sorry,
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to make it and here's why
Speaker 1: instead of a note, like a message in a bottle
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Okay, so you're you have charity. Then
Speaker 1: who's in this position where she this girl, this poor
Speaker 1: girl already knows that she's going to get her one
Speaker 1: on one date the next day. She's been so excited,
Speaker 1: like her name wasn't on the group A card, that
Speaker 1: feeling like I finally got to have this time. And
Speaker 1: then what was going through her mind? Like what did
Speaker 1: she did she talk to you about? Or how did
Speaker 1: you feel for her? Just with her not knowing what
Speaker 1: the one on one was gonna look like, is it
Speaker 1: gonna even take place? Yeah? It was. I mean she
Speaker 1: was visibly upset, rightfully, So I was upset for her.
Speaker 1: You know, it's still that weird situation like that's my
Speaker 1: very best friend and I want, you know, to see
Speaker 1: her go on her date. But it's like we're still
Speaker 1: digging the same man. But I really didn't even focus
Speaker 1: on that at moment. Honestly, I felt so bad for
Speaker 1: her because she'd already had one moment snatched away from
Speaker 1: her previously covided this moment away from her, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, well, I hope she gets everything and more,
Speaker 1: because I mean, she's had a rough go. You know,
Speaker 1: like I said, she was upset. We were all upset
Speaker 1: for her. She didn't know, you know, if she was
Speaker 1: going to get the next one on one that she
Speaker 1: didn't know I was gonna be guaranteed, or if how
Speaker 1: things were gonna work, you know, if she was gonna
Speaker 1: get skipped over. None of us had any idea. But
Speaker 1: like I said, she had moments snatched. So it's really
Speaker 1: sucked to see it happened two times in a row,
Speaker 1: only because you run up the words snatched, and I've
Speaker 1: been wanting you to ask. I've been wanting to ask
Speaker 1: this because you're blood. I love, I love how blood
Speaker 1: you are. You just speak it, you say it with
Speaker 1: like unapologetically yourself. Okay, this moment where her moment gets snatched,
Speaker 1: right where she gets the group day, Rose, can you
Speaker 1: enlighten us on your perspective of what happened during that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go a little bit back in time. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just kind of one of those moments. I
Speaker 1: don't I mean, looking back on it, it's just one
Speaker 1: of those like what are what are you thinking? Like
Speaker 1: what is going on? Um? You know, she was anyone
Speaker 1: who ever gets throws is deserving of that moment, but
Speaker 1: like especially her, she's been Honestly, she was everyone's rock there.
Speaker 1: She kept everyone grounded. Literally, Um, you know, she was
Speaker 1: a voice of reason and then to just have that
Speaker 1: disrespect thrown at her, I was like, that's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna have this. So you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: I am pretty blunt. I'll just say what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: There it is. I'm not gonna, you know, keep I
Speaker 1: mean I kind of didn't want to keep, just like
Speaker 1: driving home the point, but I could see she was
Speaker 1: visibly upset, and I was like, now it's not the time.
Speaker 1: Let's read the room. I said what I said there
Speaker 1: it is. Let's move on and let's support charity as
Speaker 1: best we can, because that was not right when you're
Speaker 1: laughing so hard. Okay, wait, did you do typically costs? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: I honestly you said what we all were thinking. So
Speaker 1: thank you for that and you said it very bluntly,
Speaker 1: boldly with dictation, and that's that amazing. Well, okay, so
Speaker 1: you're going into this rose ceremony now. Jesse tells you
Speaker 1: that it's your break in history. It's going to be
Speaker 1: the first virtual don't you love anytime he says that
Speaker 1: this has never happened before, you're either You're like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: what's coming? Like does it? It's so it's so anxiety provoking,
Speaker 1: like I'm like, oh god, what what what are we
Speaker 1: doing now? But you learned that the cocktail party is
Speaker 1: going to be virtual? At this point, what were your
Speaker 1: thoughts on talking to Zach through a screen? Honestly, my
Speaker 1: first thought was social media's gonna have a heyday with this.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a lot of fun. True. I was
Speaker 1: excited that, you know, we were able to make it
Speaker 1: work somehow and get to talk to him. Um, I
Speaker 1: was a little curious on how how it was going
Speaker 1: to work as far as like stealing, like, um, what
Speaker 1: you am I supposed to like get in an argument
Speaker 1: with an iPad? Like it was just oh my god, wait,
Speaker 1: how did that work? Um? Basically we just sort of
Speaker 1: like can I steal the atad? I mean Zach, like
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was like stealing like normal. Um,
Speaker 1: you would interduct it as you normally would. And it
Speaker 1: was just on an iPad and just a little awkward,
Speaker 1: but worth it because, like I said, at least get
Speaker 1: to talk to him. UM. So honestly, goodies. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: we loved it. It was it was a little spice up.
Speaker 1: I did love I did love that. But of course
Speaker 1: you got a rose. We'll be heading into next week
Speaker 1: with hopefully an in person's act this time, but we
Speaker 1: aren't sure where you all are headed next. But can
Speaker 1: you tease a little bit of what is to come? Um,
Speaker 1: I will say, expect the unexpected. Oh okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: I think okay, I like that. I heay. Honestly, there's
Speaker 1: always plot twists here. Can't expect anything less. But we're
Speaker 1: going to move into a game, Brooklyn. It's called rapid
Speaker 1: fire Questions. I've truly enjoyed getting to know you. This
Speaker 1: game is to allow our listeners to get to know
Speaker 1: you even more. So I'm going to throw a quick
Speaker 1: question your way. You're going to give like a one
Speaker 1: word response or a phrase. It's rapid fire back and forth.
Speaker 1: You don't have to give any explanation and we'll rattle
Speaker 1: through them. Are you ready? I'm ready? Okay. Are you
Speaker 1: an early riser or a night owl? A night owl
Speaker 1: early riser? Okay. What is the best dating advice you've
Speaker 1: ever received? As cliche as it is, just be yourself? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: What is your go to pizza order? Pineapple pepperoni. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're a pineapple on the pizza girl. Okay, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have guessed that. What is one word your best friends
Speaker 1: would use to describe you, um? Loyal? Okay. What is
Speaker 1: your favorite curse word? Probably the F word. I love
Speaker 1: how you don't say it now, perfective, We know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. What is the most played at song
Speaker 1: or artists in your library? Probably Morgan Wallen. Oh favorite song?
Speaker 1: It depends on the day. But Broadway Girls, that's just
Speaker 1: like gets you pumped up? Okay? Favorite cocktail? Fringe seventy five?
Speaker 1: Oh okay. If you could be any animal, what would
Speaker 1: you be? I would be a unicorn? It's not unique
Speaker 1: fairy two. What is the current screensaver on your phone?
Speaker 1: I always getting nervous asking this one right now? It
Speaker 1: is me and a friend from like four years ago
Speaker 1: going to music festival and it's like overly edited. There's
Speaker 1: like unicorns and purple clouds and everything everywhere. So oh,
Speaker 1: I love that. If you could visit one place in
Speaker 1: the world, where would you go? Okay, and last one,
Speaker 1: if you had to describe this season of a Bachelor
Speaker 1: in one word or phrase, what would it be? Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Um oh, I know you can
Speaker 1: take a minute. This one. This one trips people that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good one. But um, I would
Speaker 1: say like supportive, you know, like the women support each other,
Speaker 1: then Zach supports us. Um, it's very supporting. Supportive. Wow,
Speaker 1: I will say that's been like a common theme throughout
Speaker 1: this from Zach and from the other women of just
Speaker 1: like everybody's support now for each other. Yeah, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: next we're gonna move into our resources segment. I cannot
Speaker 1: speak today resources segment. So basically what we've been doing
Speaker 1: is we've been providing resources at the end of every
Speaker 1: EPI so to really challenge our listeners to taking steps forward,
Speaker 1: doing our education, doing our unlearning of different anti racist behaviors,
Speaker 1: just after everything that has taken place. And so I'm
Speaker 1: going to start with the resource that I'm just going
Speaker 1: to talk about I'll tag on my highlights my story
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and then I'll hand it off to you
Speaker 1: to do the same. Sound good, all right, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with I recently listen to a podcast it's
Speaker 1: called Speak Up, and it's basically this podcast platform that
Speaker 1: really focuses on handing like the mic to different groups
Speaker 1: of people, and it goes off of the theme of
Speaker 1: not being afraid to take up space and making sure
Speaker 1: that you are being your one hundred percent self, whether
Speaker 1: that's the LGP lg BTQ community, whether that's women advocacy,
Speaker 1: whether that's a person of color. It really does just
Speaker 1: emphasize is like an unfiltered conversation every single week that
Speaker 1: challenges different social norms and challenges different thought patterns. And
Speaker 1: I don't want I'm trying to think of like how
Speaker 1: to how to fully describe it. Unfiltered and raw and
Speaker 1: uncut is what I will say. And so it's different.
Speaker 1: And what I really appreciated about it is that sometimes
Speaker 1: like we see being uncomfortable as a very like bad thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's bad to be uncomfortable, but there are
Speaker 1: some situations, especially like when you're on learning behaviors. When
Speaker 1: you're challenging yourself to be a better person, you should
Speaker 1: you should be uncomfortable and to really like push getting
Speaker 1: comfortable with being uncomfortable, and this is the podcast to
Speaker 1: do that. I will tag it. It's on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, um,
Speaker 1: I think it's on a lot of other podcasts platforms
Speaker 1: as well. And it's called spe Up. So I do
Speaker 1: want the ticket away? Yes, So I have followed. Her
Speaker 1: name is Morgan Harper Nichols on Instagram for a long time.
Speaker 1: She is a woman of color. She posts a lot
Speaker 1: of self love, self help poems and like with her
Speaker 1: art on there. She's also very open about her ADHD
Speaker 1: and her autism and also being a woman of color.
Speaker 1: She has books, she has TikTok wife, I believe she
Speaker 1: has TikTok. She has her books, TikTok's her Instagram. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge fan of hers because all of her it's
Speaker 1: just very shortened to the point, but also gives you
Speaker 1: a good point, you know what I mean. Like it's
Speaker 1: very authentic from her, from her heart, and I love
Speaker 1: everything she has to say. I just ordered her book.
Speaker 1: It came out on I don't have Friday, No Tuesday
Speaker 1: it came out. She's her book, so I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to read about that, and I just really like what
Speaker 1: she stands for and how she's very open about everything,
Speaker 1: because I think that's important. It's to be open, vulnerable,
Speaker 1: and like you said, have the conversations and say the
Speaker 1: things that need to be said even if it makes
Speaker 1: something uncomfortable. Yeah, what is the book title called? If
Speaker 1: you don't mind, I'm sure our listeners will want to know. Yes,
Speaker 1: let me remember top of your head. You're only just
Speaker 1: beginning and it came out Valentine's Day, so I just
Speaker 1: ordered that, so you can't wait to get it. She's
Speaker 1: my follow her on TikTok and she is just like
Speaker 1: radiates positive energy, like she really yeah, really authentic as well,
Speaker 1: does it in a very authentic, like unapologetic way. So
Speaker 1: thank you for that resource. And lastly, one of the
Speaker 1: best parts of the podcast are Rose and Thorn, and
Speaker 1: so really, what you're gonna do is just kind of
Speaker 1: tell us or share a rose and thorn from everything
Speaker 1: that has taken place up until this point. And it
Speaker 1: can be um doesn't have to be like last episode,
Speaker 1: but rose something positive or like some of you hold
Speaker 1: close to your heart and the thorn it can be
Speaker 1: something awkward, uncomfortable downfall throughout the episodes, still till we're
Speaker 1: in London here. Okay, Um, a rose, I mean it
Speaker 1: goes without saying. A one on one would definitely be
Speaker 1: a rose. But um, I definitely my relationship with Charity
Speaker 1: just blossoming from the beginning is definitely another rose in
Speaker 1: my book, a thorn. A thorn would probably be when
Speaker 1: I fist bumped Zach after he said you're a good
Speaker 1: kisser and I fist bumped the poor man. I'm still
Speaker 1: am like, oh my god, I did that. That's my thorn.
Speaker 1: Dang Okay, But honestly it was so genuine. I've just
Speaker 1: like always dunce, I'm awkward, Okay, Like I've always done
Speaker 1: goofy stuff like that, and like I didn't mean it bad,
Speaker 1: like friend zoning or anything like. That's my way of
Speaker 1: showing affection, right, But it's like, okay, you know, you're
Speaker 1: you know those cute moments when you're watching like rom Columns,
Speaker 1: and it's like these quirky moments that either like the
Speaker 1: girl or the guy has or just like whoever is
Speaker 1: in the show that was like that moment and it's
Speaker 1: like when you're sitting and watching it, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like to feel good, like genuine relatable, like it's
Speaker 1: not all perfect, you don't have you know, it's just awkward. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just remember when that, Like when I did, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it's like, well, maybe it
Speaker 1: won't make it in and then define it. There it is,
Speaker 1: And my family and friends that were watching with me
Speaker 1: were rolling. I was like, here we go. Were there
Speaker 1: any memes? Guess I haven't seen any. I mean I've
Speaker 1: seen a couple or I guess I've seen a couple. Um.
Speaker 1: Someone said like awkward turtles unite or whatever, and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, there is, but it lives on, it
Speaker 1: lives forever. Well, Brooklyn, it's been such a joy talking
Speaker 1: with you. I can totally see why you and Charity
Speaker 1: are so close, really positive vibes, great energy, such great loyalty,
Speaker 1: and just with you and everything that you stand for,
Speaker 1: everything that you've been through and everything that you're advocating for.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for continuing to do that and
Speaker 1: kind of being that spokesperson or being that person that
Speaker 1: people back at home on the couch or people who
Speaker 1: are watching or listening can kind of look to for
Speaker 1: guidance or to feel understood when they might not. So
Speaker 1: thank you for everything you're doing, and thank you for
Speaker 1: being blunt anytime saying how it is. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much Brooklyn for being here, being so honest and raw
Speaker 1: with everything that you've shared. And thank you Bachelor Happy
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