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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets podcast powered

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Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Okay, here we go again. On

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Speaker 1: this episode, we're gonna touch onto some official resignings. Yes,

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Speaker 1: official that Jets officially made a couple moves. Reportedly brought

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Speaker 1: in another pair of moves last night, reportedly agreeing to

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Speaker 1: terms with the Brashod Paraman earlier today today is Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: March that is four pm. A couple of hours ago,

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Speaker 1: reportedly agreed to terms with the linebacker formerly of the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, Patrick o'wassu. And then this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver heavy podcast here, EA and I are

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Speaker 1: gonna break down who's on the Jets roster and then

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Speaker 1: basically we're gonna talk about who they could add, but

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Speaker 1: mainly through the draft scope because this receiver class is

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Speaker 1: so rich. It's not even just up top with the

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Speaker 1: guys like Jerry Judy and Ceedee Lamb. But you go

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Speaker 1: today two and day three could still find some viable

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Speaker 1: options there. So without further ado e A, let's just

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Speaker 1: kick things off here. Hello, welcome another edition of the podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Hey Green's uh, very good being with you. As always,

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Speaker 1: we're thinking about a lot of folks out there as

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Speaker 1: we do this each and every day, UM, New York State.

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Speaker 1: The cases have doubled over the last a couple of

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Speaker 1: days of uh COVID nineteen and there's more than six

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Speaker 1: cases throughout the country, eight hundred sixty deaths. And there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people on the front lines of this

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Speaker 1: right now. And those are doctors and nurses and people

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Speaker 1: making masks and supplies and beds, trying to make beds

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Speaker 1: of elbow and things like that. So we're thinking about

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Speaker 1: everybody out there, UM, who's trying to help the greater good,

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Speaker 1: and also people who are who've been impacted, UM, whether

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Speaker 1: it's their friends or family. Maybe people are dealing with

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Speaker 1: this illness right now. So again, we're very fortunate to

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Speaker 1: be talking football, talking Jets. Football is free agency rolls around,

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Speaker 1: but uh, I want everybody to know out there that

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Speaker 1: the entire Jets organization is thinking about, um, the folks

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Speaker 1: out there who are helping the greater good each and

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Speaker 1: every day. Very well said, and today the Jets, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's just dive into it here. The Jets officially brought

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Speaker 1: back inside linebacker Neville Hewitt officially brought back Bennett Jackson

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Speaker 1: and then a couple of hours ago, it was reported

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Speaker 1: that the Jets agreed to terms with Patrick Owassu. That's

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Speaker 1: the pat that's the not that's not the Patrick. That's

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Speaker 1: the proper way to pronounce his name. Patrick. Oh wah,

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Speaker 1: so owasso it Patricks. His nickname is so can I

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Speaker 1: call him peanut? You can call him peanut? Hey listen,

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Speaker 1: Uh Baltimore raven connection again. Uh started six games for

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Speaker 1: the Ravens last year and he had three sacks. He

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Speaker 1: started at the middle linebacker, then he made a transition

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Speaker 1: to will linebacker. But on the surface right now you're

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Speaker 1: looking at the Jets inside linebacker position. Wow, strength and numbers.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned it. Uh you know, so uh,

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Speaker 1: here it becomes official. He did some great things last

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Speaker 1: year for this team. Third and tackles and you know

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Speaker 1: who he's behind, James Vertus and James Versus resigned as

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Speaker 1: well with this team. But you think about the oh,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Thank you for correcting me. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to um. Yes. So bottom line, here here's another guy

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Speaker 1: who's got got a lot of great experience. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: flies around the football. Uh. C. J Mosley very familiar

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Speaker 1: with Anna Wilson. Uh, how is that pronunciation? By the way, Well,

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Speaker 1: you're you're put in the end in there, there's no end.

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Speaker 1: It's owasso wa. So okay, I'm sorry. So, uh Peanut

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Speaker 1: every Williamson, black Cashman. Uh they forementioned double Hewitt and

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Speaker 1: So listen, Uh, you gotta look at these in terms

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Speaker 1: if you get C. J. Mosley back healthy, only played

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Speaker 1: one game full strength for you last year. Uh. So,

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Speaker 1: Joe Douglas staying active here multiple waves and free agency,

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Speaker 1: and I know we're talking about yesterday Robby Anderson reportedly

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Speaker 1: agreeing to terms with the Carolina Panthers, and us talking

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Speaker 1: about Joe Douglas having a plan. Well, we're seeing the

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Speaker 1: plan unfold by the hour here, Greens. Yeah, no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it. One thing about Owasso, Marlon Humphrey, the Ravens

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Speaker 1: All Pro Corner said this about Owasso. He said, that's

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Speaker 1: one guy that's always flying around. He definitely works hard,

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Speaker 1: That's who peanut is and that's that's all that I

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Speaker 1: Novill Hewitt, Bennett Jackson, Jackson, Alex Lewis, and Brian Pool.

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Speaker 1: So those are the four officials. The rest of them

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Speaker 1: reportedly agreed to terms, and that includes Perryman. Uh. Interesting

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Speaker 1: career arc for this guy, Greens. What was he drafted

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay last year, what happened was Jamis Winston thirty

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Speaker 1: he had a performance where three touchdown catches, a hundred

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Speaker 1: burst pipes. Robby Anderson certainly could fly, but Sulkin Brashad Perryman.

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Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder was great last year, seventy seven catches, eight

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Speaker 1: because I think that's something that the Jets missed last year.

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Speaker 1: And Ryan Diffen, Ryan Diffen, Ryan Griffin did a great

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald entering his third season, regardless of who else

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Speaker 1: It's a very good point. You gotta like where the

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how it all plays out, because you

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Speaker 1: could get the very best of the best that receiver

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Speaker 1: or you could get a very good player in round

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Speaker 1: two if you decide to go that way. Four picks

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Speaker 1: in the top seventy nine. So a lot of partents

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Speaker 1: like we continue to reiterate it said that the top

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Speaker 1: of the class is Judy and Lamb. Now, if the

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Speaker 1: Jets don't go receiver at eleven and you do have

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Speaker 1: four picks in the top seventy nine, this class is

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Speaker 1: said to be historically deep and talented, not just through

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Speaker 1: the first two rounds, but through the first three rounds,

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Speaker 1: and we could see unprecedented numbers. With all that being said,

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Speaker 1: who do you think could be available for the Jets

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Speaker 1: in the second round? Maybe and that fits a need

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Speaker 1: and also the best player available because maybe one or

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Speaker 1: two of these guys slip. Or is it going to

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Speaker 1: be where we see a run on receivers late in

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Speaker 1: that first round at the end of day one, before

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Speaker 1: everybody resets the board. Well, I think that you bring

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Speaker 1: up a good point, and I think going back to

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Speaker 1: my ice cream analogy, it's not my analogy, but I

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Speaker 1: use it where picking a receiver is like picking an

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Speaker 1: ice cream flavor. It just depends what you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think there's probably a handful of

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Speaker 1: players that are top fifty players at receiver, and it

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Speaker 1: just depends which ones come off the board. Like the

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Speaker 1: popular names are Brandon Ayuke Te Higgins, Laviska Channalt who

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Speaker 1: got hurt at the Combine running the forty. He's somebody

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Speaker 1: that also is more of a gadget player and it's

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Speaker 1: built like a running back. And then you think of

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Speaker 1: other guys like Denzel Mims is a Senior Bowl player

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Speaker 1: out of Baylor and his stock has skyrocketed from the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl to the Combine to President and it seems

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Speaker 1: like he might even creep into the back half of

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Speaker 1: the first round after being like a day to maybe

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Speaker 1: Day three pick. And then how about somebody like Chase Claypool,

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Speaker 1: who has the size to be a tight end, ran

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Speaker 1: a low four full or and now might find his

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Speaker 1: way in Day two. I mean, there's so many options

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Speaker 1: at receiver for the Jets in round two and round three.

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Speaker 1: Even if you go back that far, you think if

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Speaker 1: guys like k J. Hill and Austin mac from Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: you think of Sean Jefferson's son, Van Jefferson out of Florida.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many different players in so many

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Speaker 1: different ways that you can go that it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: really interesting to see when the run on the second

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Speaker 1: wave of receivers start and where it ends. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: Mims Baylor tall range, like you said, seems to be

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Speaker 1: his stock is on the rise right now. A guy

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Speaker 1: can win fifty played at Colorado, extremely productive, thicker guy

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Speaker 1: right who lined up all over the place with Colorado. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, durability concerns, I think a little bit uh there,

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Speaker 1: and people are gonna have to check out his medical

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Speaker 1: and again, you know, this is a very interesting time

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Speaker 1: for the National Football League in the world as a whole.

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Speaker 1: But just talking draftwise, Um, but chan all you look

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Speaker 1: at that production he added Colorado. You mentioned Van Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked at the combined greens when cornerbacks in

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Speaker 1: the SEC, there were multiple guys, you know how it's

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Speaker 1: all set up. We had our little Jets table and

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Speaker 1: we'd walk around each day when these guys came to

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Speaker 1: the podium when it was defensive backsday, I really stood

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Speaker 1: out to me and it was oppressive. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying this because Sean Jefferson is the Jets wide receiver coach.

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Speaker 1: I'd watch interviews and people with asked the funders, hey,

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Speaker 1: who is the toughest receiver you had to cover in

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Speaker 1: the SEC and I heard on multiple occasions Van Jefferson. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think Van Jefferson at the Senior Bowl. That's where

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Speaker 1: the stock started to trend upwards because he was making

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Speaker 1: a lot of people look foolish in mobile And then

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Speaker 1: it was unfortunate because I think people were questioning his

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Speaker 1: straight line speed and they were wondering what he'd run

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Speaker 1: in a forty yard dash, and then of course he

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Speaker 1: was flagged for a foot injury and then he couldn't participate.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this is another guy that, maybe, given

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Speaker 1: everything that's going on in the world, not having a

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Speaker 1: Pro day could hurt his draft stock. And it's unfortunate

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Speaker 1: because of you know that everybody's routine is just jacked up,

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Speaker 1: not only in the NFL, I mean you and me,

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00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: like everybody, but for guys that are hoping to make

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Speaker 1: an impression on teams, whether it be in a top

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Speaker 1: thirty visit or whether it be at a pro day,

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Speaker 1: you know you're kind of robbed of that chance. So

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Speaker 1: definitely interesting times ahead as we creep forward to the draft.

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Speaker 1: But long story short here, if the Jets want to

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Speaker 1: select a receiver at eleven, if they want to do

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Speaker 1: so in rounds two, three, and four, they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: options and that player, whoever he is, could very well

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Speaker 1: and up being a Day one contributor, if not starter

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Speaker 1: for the Jets. Yeah, and that's the encouraging thing. Um

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Speaker 1: so a long time ago. We have to see how

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Speaker 1: the rest of free agency plays out, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: And who are the tackles on the board. Does a

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Speaker 1: cornerback slip? Wouldn't it be something if Acuda started slipping

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Speaker 1: on on Draft Day because we started on that the

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Speaker 1: first night of the draft, because we were talking about

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Speaker 1: it yesterday. Was Detroit gonna do? Is that where Miami

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Speaker 1: or the l A Chargers is gonna try to get

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Speaker 1: up to? Uh? I can't imagine him slipping out of

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Speaker 1: the top ten the way people talk about him. But

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Speaker 1: what if that happened, that would be that it would

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Speaker 1: be mayhem, But it would be great because that's what

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Speaker 1: the draft is. I lived for the Mayhem on Draft night.

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Speaker 1: I just think, uh, you know, the edge, the top

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Speaker 1: edge in this class. I don't think he's getting down

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Speaker 1: to eleven. I think we can give him a Washington

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Speaker 1: Redskins jersey. But you know, and when he when when

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Speaker 1: you look at the Jets roster and you know, Joe

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Speaker 1: Douglas has went to work on that offensive line, especially

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Speaker 1: on the interior um and bringing in reportedly bringing in

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Speaker 1: George fann In here as well. Guys got that versatility

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Speaker 1: left tackle, right tackle. Jets are not thought here in

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Speaker 1: free agency, make no mistake about that, um, But you

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Speaker 1: know you have a chance. This is all about what

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Speaker 1: Joe Douglas is doing right now, is wrapping his arms

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Speaker 1: around Number fourteen is twenty two year old signal caller

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Speaker 1: in Sam Donalds, and he's getting protection. He got him

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Speaker 1: an interesting guy, uh now in Brashad Perriman on the outside.

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Speaker 1: I know the Jets are probably not done there at

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Speaker 1: the receiver position of course as well, and he could

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Speaker 1: be facing he could be be a good problem to

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Speaker 1: have potentially Judy out there, Am out there, maybe Beckton

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Speaker 1: out there, um Andrew Thomas, maybe a corner slips. I

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Speaker 1: just keep on coming back to eleven is going to

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Speaker 1: be a good spot for the Jets. I just to

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Speaker 1: foresee that happening, because every draft is predicated on the

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Speaker 1: quarterback dominoes, and I think you're gonna see a few

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Speaker 1: go early um and then there are flashpoints in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Is that early flashpoint in the draft, And then we

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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about it yesterday. Arizona's move is

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Speaker 1: going to be interesting because I just see that direct

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Speaker 1: connection with the Jets. Yes, the Jets don't have to

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Speaker 1: compete with them inside the division or the conference or

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Speaker 1: anything like that, but maybe they want to get a

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Speaker 1: tackle for their young quarterback, or maybe they want to

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Speaker 1: pair up DeAndre Hopkins with one of these young studs.

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Speaker 1: So there's that connection narrative. I'm looking at that spot too.

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Speaker 1: So and what is Jacksonville? You know, And I know

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Speaker 1: we went over the mock draft def today, but when

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Speaker 1: we talk about receivers, Wow, it would just certainly be

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Speaker 1: something if Judy's out there and Ceedee Lamb's out there

567
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Speaker 1: and Ruggs is out there when you're on the board

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Speaker 1: at eleven, great problem to have. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's a problem at all. And you just talked about

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Speaker 1: the depth of this receiver class. There are guys who

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Speaker 1: gonna come in in the second and third round. We

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Speaker 1: didn't even talk about Tea Higgins today. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be guys who are gonna come into the second

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Speaker 1: and third round and they're contribute for teams immediately. There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And I think that this wide

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Speaker 1: receiver class has a chance to be historic. As Todd

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Speaker 1: mcshade put it to me in Indianapolis. He he said

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Speaker 1: he had twenty guys in his top three rounds and

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Speaker 1: some people have as many as twenty five. And now

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Speaker 1: the Draft is officially just under one month away. April

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Speaker 1: twenty three is round one, April twenty four, rounds two

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Speaker 1: and three, and April rounds four seven, And we'll break

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Speaker 1: it all down here on the pod as we inch closer,

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Speaker 1: and then, of course, once the Draft actually happens, right

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Speaker 1: here on the Official Jet Podcast powered by Amazon Web Service.

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Speaker 1: As he that was a nice little draft review, and

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Speaker 1: we'll be back at it tomorrow, So enjoy the rest

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Speaker 1: of your night and we'll catch up tomorrow. Yeah, man,

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00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And I think the mat Backer

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Speaker 1: is gonna make an appearance tomorrow on the Pocket part

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Speaker 1: Scott with Olivia Landis tomorrow, So looking forward to that

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Speaker 1: one