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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we don't believe in chronological age.

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Speaker 2: We do not.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosealm here in the Chris Westling podcast studio

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Speaker 1: with my friend Colleen Wolf for a very special episode

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Speaker 1: of NFL Daily.

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Speaker 3: It's the Death Show.

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Speaker 4: The Death Show. Everyone you knew it was coming. It

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Speaker 4: was going to come up at some point in the show.

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Speaker 4: Whenever Greg and I are together, that's what happens. So

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Speaker 4: we figured, why don't we do an entire episode on death.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And when we were talking about it, and we've

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Speaker 1: got the Great Quab producing the show.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be on NFL Channel.

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Speaker 1: There's some discomfort I think about some of the you know,

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Speaker 1: graphics that are gonna be at Can we really say

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Speaker 1: the Death Show across and this? I was like, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. It's it's the one thing we

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Speaker 1: know we all have in common. It's gonna happen, and

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Speaker 1: if you're lucky enough in a way, it's going to

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Speaker 1: happen to people around you, because if it doesn't, that

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Speaker 1: means it already happened to you.

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Speaker 2: That is a really good point. That's true. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: we're really going for it right off the top.

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Speaker 3: But how can we make that an NFL show?

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Speaker 4: All right, We're gonna make it fun death but fun

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Speaker 4: or death but just NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean I was like, do we do

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Speaker 4: teams on life support? You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: different ways we could go with it, Greg.

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Speaker 1: That is what we're going to figure out, and that's

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Speaker 1: what helps me feel alive is having a show where

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Speaker 1: you don't really know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: What do they say on your Monday night.

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Speaker 2: Show, Let's just see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Let's just see what happens.

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Speaker 4: That's the official motto of the Game Day Kickoff Monday

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Speaker 4: edition with myself and Steve Mariucci and Jeff Blasucci produces.

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Speaker 4: He's the one that started it, and we have a

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Speaker 4: little piece of paper sort of like play like a champion,

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Speaker 4: and we hit it before every show that says, let's

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Speaker 4: just see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And that's not too different, you know, back in

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Speaker 1: the around the NFL days, really actually in back in

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Speaker 1: the around the league days, whoa really starting? We're just

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Speaker 1: in the in the It's like we'd be fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: until we were going to start, and was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what should we do today. That was pretty normal. Wow,

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Speaker 1: and so and good stuff happened. So we will go

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Speaker 1: through a lot of different trends that are happening. Players

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Speaker 1: teams that we decide whether they're alive or dead. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll along the way have meaningful discussions.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like that, baby, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Life and yeah, chronological age, you're not in.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't believe in it. I listen.

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Speaker 4: It's age is a mindset as time as a social construct.

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Speaker 4: And if you have ever met my dad at Wolf,

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Speaker 4: you would never believe how old he is because he

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Speaker 4: acts like he's younger than me in the best way possible.

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Speaker 2: Young at heart.

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Speaker 3: Keep wearing those cargo pants.

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Speaker 2: Hello, fellow kids, I am your age.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to have this opening sound to really

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Speaker 1: introduce the segment. And this is like a dark version

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Speaker 1: of it. But I just thought this is in the

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Speaker 1: news this week. There was actually a fight during the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars game over this weekend and Liam Cohen, you know,

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Speaker 1: said one of his players was accused of telling one

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Speaker 1: of the players on the on the Titans teams that

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Speaker 1: he was going to kill him. And Liam Cohen was

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Speaker 1: asked about that one.

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Speaker 5: Of the Titans players I guess after the game said

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Speaker 5: logan Cook threatened to kill him in one of those

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Speaker 5: altercations there, and that's kind of blown up a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I was just wondering, you know, your thought about whether

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Speaker 5: that might have been across the line or anything, or

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Speaker 5: if that's something like you know that this happens during games.

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Speaker 6: I've probably heard that said, like, I mean a hundred times,

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Speaker 6: you know, from players in games.

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Speaker 3: So whatever, damn.

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Speaker 4: A hundred times, Okay, I feel like he needed to

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Speaker 3: Hundred too specific.

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Speaker 2: One hundred is too.

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Speaker 4: Small, I think of a sample size for someone who

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Speaker 4: say that it never really happens.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not really sure I understand where he was going.

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Speaker 1: What strange workplace it is, though that that is considered normal.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of things. You got to find

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Speaker 1: the humor in the dark places.

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Speaker 2: That's what we do best.

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Speaker 3: Number one.

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Speaker 1: The fact that the player who threatened to kill the

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Speaker 1: other was the punter.

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Speaker 3: That's it's just funny.

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Speaker 1: If you could pick the funniest position to do it,

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Speaker 1: look and puts the punter right, you know, great research

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Speaker 4: I mean, if it happens so often, then I don't

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Speaker 4: know how it became such a big deal. But it

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Speaker 4: does remind me of Will Campbell saying I will fight

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Speaker 4: and die for you after he was drafted. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is a big deal. This is a serious business.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is, but it is a reminder

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Speaker 1: what a weird workplace it is because you couldn't don't

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Speaker 1: do that at your workplace. We could not say that,

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Speaker 1: even in a joking manner. I don't think at a workplace.

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Speaker 1: But in the NFL, the emotions are heightened. Anything goes,

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Speaker 1: it's life or death while you're out there on the field.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like, is that handled by HR at all?

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Speaker 3: I think so?

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Speaker 4: Because does an HR rep come into the locker room

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Speaker 4: and say, can you just come into my office real quick?

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Speaker 2: Do you have a moment?

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Speaker 3: Apparently not, because it's happened hundreds of times.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that would just be a nice little

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Speaker 1: entree into what we're talking about today, And it can

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Speaker 1: be teams, trends, whatever you want that could be dead

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Speaker 1: or alive, that make you feel alive that are on

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Speaker 1: life support. However you want to take this, why don't

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Speaker 1: you get us going?

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, I think that this one, this is a

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Speaker 4: fairly obvious one. But the Seahawks desert addition is dead,

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Speaker 4: and it's been dead for a while. The Raiders is

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Speaker 4: referring to with Pete Carroll and Gino Smith and Tom

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Speaker 4: that now too, and it just feels like having his

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Speaker 4: infusing infusion at the beginning of the season during training camp, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: there is a sliver of hope here. Maybe this is

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Speaker 4: going to turn into something. They even brought in Tyler

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Speaker 4: Lockett after he left the Titans. Yes, this is an

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Speaker 4: obvious one, but I'm going to bury a team in

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Speaker 4: their division as well, actually two teams in the AFC.

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Speaker 4: I'm just going to outright, oh, Barry, Okay, that they're

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Speaker 4: done and it's unfortunate, but it just it feels that

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Speaker 4: way for the Chiefs. It just feels like this is

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Speaker 4: seems unbelievably crazy to say, because you never count out

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs, but this year has not gone well for them,

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Speaker 4: and sure they could sneak in as a wild card,

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Speaker 4: and who knows what's going to happen, But if there's

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Speaker 4: make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It feels like this season.

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Speaker 4: Having watched them this year, and I'm just my poor Colts.

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Speaker 4: Wow that I'm throwing in the plot because it's it's

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Speaker 4: so hard to watch Daniel Jones play with one leg

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Speaker 4: and they still have two more games without DeForrest Buckner

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Speaker 4: he has the neck injury.

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Speaker 2: On IR They've lost three of their last four.

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Speaker 4: The only win that the Colts had was the overtime

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Speaker 4: win against the Falcons in Europe. The next five on

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Speaker 4: their schedule are all teams that are above five hundred.

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Speaker 4: They have to play the Jags twice, the Texans, the Seahawks,

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Speaker 4: the Niners.

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Speaker 2: It's very upsetting to me.

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Speaker 4: You know how much I love this team and how

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Speaker 4: much I wanted to believe in this team and how

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Speaker 4: much I wanted Carly Orsa Gordon to be our queen,

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Speaker 4: but it is not to be.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you just you're burying them.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you're doing the social work social

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Speaker 1: team's work for them Collin woh, Colon, the Chiefs are buried.

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Speaker 3: It's over.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, put him in the ground, all right,

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Speaker 1: sound like I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's pretty obvious that the Chiefs are on life support.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so how about I'll put the Chiefs on backing

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Speaker 3: off the hot take.

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Speaker 4: No, the cults are done though that the Colts, Wow,

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Speaker 4: cults are done, and we all gather here to mourn

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five Indianapolis Colts. This was supposed to

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Speaker 4: be the year for the team to finally succeed. I

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Speaker 4: even said, you know what, I'm not going to jump

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Speaker 4: And then I slowly tiptoed back on, tried to maybe

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Speaker 4: total sucker.

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Speaker 2: I believed.

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Speaker 1: And now you're pushing them in front of like a

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Speaker 3: He's no, they're bouncing around.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was proving everyone wrong until his fibula

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Speaker 4: running with so much hard art breaking franchise records. Michael Pittman,

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Speaker 4: Junior our hopes and dreams landed with every catch Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this was a team that had so much

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Speaker 4: promise and potential.

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Speaker 3: They're still eight and four, they're tied for first place.

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Speaker 4: It's easy now, twenty twenty five Colts. Rest from the struggle,

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Speaker 4: Rest from the heartbreak, Rest knowing we loved you.

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Speaker 2: If that and achingly still do.

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Speaker 3: If that actually happens, if they missed.

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Speaker 2: I'll be legitimately upset.

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Speaker 1: Well, now you're covered on both sides. There's no good

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Speaker 1: outcome for you. There's no bad outcome. It's all bad.

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Speaker 3: Actually it's all bad.

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Speaker 1: They lose out, not every game, but let's say they

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Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: They're eight and four.

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Speaker 1: Let's say they finished nine and eight or something, or

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Speaker 1: even ten and seven of the playoffs. I mean they

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Speaker 1: came into this year thinking it was like playoffs or

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Speaker 1: bust for Stichen and Vallad. Then you'd be going too

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Speaker 1: the offseason depending on how Daniel Jones plays without your

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Speaker 1: two first round picks over the next two years, and

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Speaker 1: you're pot committed to Daniel Jones, I am not ready

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Speaker 1: to dig dirt on them. You know, the Jaguars are

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Speaker 1: on the schedule twice. That's who they're tied with the

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Speaker 1: top the division. They're sixty minutes away on Sunday from

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Speaker 1: feeling very much alive, from being in first place against

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Speaker 1: a pretty flawed Jaguars team and a fun team, a

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Speaker 2: We've been talking what about the Texans, what about the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Texans are dangerous, certainly, the Seahawks are probably an l

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Speaker 1: on the schedule, certainly, But in this division, if they

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Speaker 1: could sweep the Jaguars like they're making the playoffs, even

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Speaker 4: That that's exactly like a family just checking out what's

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Speaker 1: I love that stuff. Also, I'm I am still afraid

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Speaker 2: Do we have to?

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Speaker 3: Here's what's dead.

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Speaker 2: There's so many how much time do we have?

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Speaker 1: Like the little baby chickens that could have been born,

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Speaker 4: Well they could actually Gregg could be throwing fertilized eggs

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Speaker 4: I would not want any Eagles fans knowing where I

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Speaker 1: Right now, Kevin Petulo has been blamed for everything.

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Speaker 3: It's obviously not his fault.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, keep going, tell me more about my power.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say that they're dead, but I am.

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Speaker 1: It could they collapse Halla twenty three, twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: I think I think it could happen. He's he's gonna

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Speaker 2: I might be over there too. That should be great fun.

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Speaker 7: Look like I understand the question.

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Speaker 7: Like I'm gonna get hit if I'm in the pocket

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Speaker 4: Dummy, right, And we saw what happened to Cam Skataboo

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Speaker 3: No, you were right.

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Speaker 1: And one of the first things he did, and he's right,

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: telling him at this point in the season, we're thirteen

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Speaker 4: weeks in that he needs to play smarter than that

443
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 4: and not take those hits.

444
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 3: So they talked about for three weeks in that and

445
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: then that's what happened.

446
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 2: But also, you know it's not dead.

447
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 4: The power turtleneck that Jackson Dart wore into the game

448
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 4: and they're at his press conference into the game with

449
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 4: a brown leather like top gun jacket.

450
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Speaker 3: Turtlenecks are coming back where they ever totally gone.

451
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: No, not for me. I love a turtle neck.

452
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: Mean it is.

453
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Speaker 1: It is bizarre to think back on what I was

454
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Speaker 1: wearing as like a middle school high school kid. I mean,

455
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,159
Speaker 1: it's cold in western Massachusetts, you need to layer. But

456
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: there were a lot of turtlenecks going on.

457
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: Should a captain.

458
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Speaker 3: There was like a moment where sweater vests were popular.

459
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Speaker 2: Stop I can't.

460
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Speaker 4: So that kind of reminded me what Rabel Rabel in

461
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Speaker 4: the red Patriots vest last night that was giving sweater.

462
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Speaker 1: Yes, it was a moment, give me, give me something

463
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Speaker 1: else that you so on its deathbed or not.

464
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Speaker 4: Well, I was thinking about, you know what I think

465
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 4: is going to be buried this off season, so the

466
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 4: season's going to continue whatever, But uh, what is it

467
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: about March April we will be holding a funeral for

468
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 4: the tush push? I think, wow, yeah, I know this

469
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 4: is this is a depressing show.

470
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Speaker 3: I love it, let's lean into it.

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Speaker 4: I just think that we've seen, I mean, so many

472
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 4: plays this year tush pushes that have been so difficult

473
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Speaker 4: to officiate, and we've seen so many plays with officiating

474
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 4: being like going the wrong way in general, that this

475
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 4: feels like a spot that might just take the bullet

476
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Speaker 4: for all of it to get rid of the toush push.

477
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Speaker 4: Then would alleviate some of the calls for uh like

478
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Speaker 4: instant of replay and all of that.

479
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Speaker 1: I am not a shill for the NFL, but with

480
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Speaker 1: everyone complaining about officials all the time, I at some

481
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Speaker 1: point sort of just check check out of it. Yeah,

482
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: because it's just to me relatively boring to talk about.

483
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Speaker 4: And well, you don't have a call with Walt Anderson

484
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 4: every week now, and maybe you should jump on with

485
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Speaker 4: no very fun.

486
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Speaker 1: I think like that like talking about different rules and

487
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, like understanding them is important, especially for broadcasters,

488
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: and some are terrible at it, and some like Mike

489
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: Turico and yourself are a great at Yeah, but I'm

490
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: always surprised anyone ever gets a call correct. It's impossible.

491
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: Why do we have such a high standard that they're

492
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: going to get everything correct. The players get everything, like

493
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: a million things wrong on every play, and they're the

494
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: best in the absolute world. And the refs aren't great,

495
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: but it's when you're on a field, you've been.

496
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Speaker 3: On the it's so we get anything right.

497
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: The game speed is so fast.

498
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Speaker 1: The thing that annoys me is, yeah, when things should

499
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: be reviewable are not reviewed, Like the leg whip in

500
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 1: the Texan you know Colts game. I believe it was

501
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: where or was at a different game where there was

502
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 1: a trip that clearly happened on a play and.

503
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Speaker 2: They it was his thighs.

504
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 3: They reviewed it.

505
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they reviewed the play, but they couldn't review like

506
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: they can't give the penalty after reviewing the play and

507
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: ends up hurting the wrong team.

508
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Speaker 3: What that's annoying?

509
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Speaker 4: I found it fascinating On Sunday night when Tarico and

510
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 4: Collinsworth were talking about what constitutes a pile in football

511
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: and how many people does it take to have a

512
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 4: pile because you can't pull someone off the pile.

513
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: But it was just like two dudes or one dude.

514
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, but that was something that I was

515
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: going to bring up to Walt Anderson this week.

516
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Speaker 3: Good idea.

517
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go the other way on this tushbush idea. Okay, Well,

518
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: first of all, if it does die, did the first

519
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: like real sign of death happen in that Black Friday game?

520
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: Because the Bears just had a good way to stop it. Yeah,

521
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: and like they like turn if you can stop it,

522
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: you basically.

523
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: They had Jalen like turn or they turned him.

524
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Speaker 1: They sort of sent I can't explain enough. I would

525
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: need to watch it from the side, but we talked

526
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: about it on our things.

527
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: They didn't have Black Friday.

528
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: That Kelvin Sheppard from the Lions I think came up

529
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: with this plan against the Eagles, and now it's being

530
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: copied and you have this guy Darty in from the side.

531
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Speaker 1: There's more to the plan than that, and it's working

532
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: to stop it, and then you see the tight ends.

533
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: It's not working with the tight ends doing the It's like,

534
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: this is why I never thought you should kill the

535
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: Toushbush because the Eagles are good at it. Eventually someone's

536
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: going to figure out how to stop it. No one

537
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: else is really that good at it anyways. It's not

538
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: working for the Bills like as well as it did previously, eating.

539
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: As like everything else. It's going to die naturally.

540
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: That's it.

541
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's sort of the history of the NFL.

542
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: It is.

543
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Steelers. Okay, first of all, we

544
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: have some news. On Tuesday.

545
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: We tape on Tuesday. We found out that they have

546
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: cut Darius Slay. Adam Thielen, on the other hand, he's

547
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: going to be busy. He was cut by the Vikings.

548
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: He requested his release because he was not really playing

549
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: much with the Vikings. He was hoping, can I sign

550
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: on to a team that potentially matters, and he got

551
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: a gig with the Steelers, and so that's our news

552
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: of the day. They're actually going to activate a Sante

553
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: Samuel Junior as well.

554
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 3: They had signed him. He's a good player.

555
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: He had a neck injury that prevented him from playing

556
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: for most of this year, so he's basically replacing Darius

557
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: Slay and when you're making moves like this going into

558
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: the biggest game of the year against the Ravens, it

559
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: makes me feel even more confident to say the Steelers

560
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl chances are dead now. I'm not saying that

561
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's career with the Steelers is on life support.

562
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: I don't think it necessarily is. Let's actually listen to

563
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolfe at a previous time on the Monday Night

564
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: Show with Ian Rappaport is.

565
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: This is obviously a topic that is trending, but how

566
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: valid of a topic is whether or not Mike Tomlin

567
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 4: and the Steelers should move on from each other?

568
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: Heavy side from Ian, You're not watching he's and.

569
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna let you do it.

570
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: I'm just not.

571
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: You know, Mooch.

572
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 4: Then when we after I said goodbye to Ian and

573
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 4: opened up the chat to Mooch and asked him if

574
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 4: it was time for the Steelers to move on. Yeah,

575
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 4: he did the same exact thing to me that Ian did.

576
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean, as if Ian didn't know you were gonna

577
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: ask that, didn't he know?

578
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: Come on, we have fun, don't we. Let's just see

579
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: what happens.

580
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: It's theater ridiculous.

581
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: It would be a very Steelers thing to go win

582
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: this game in Baltimore, just at the moment where the

583
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: vultures are circling in a way that I've never seen

584
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh for Mike Tomlin. But what Ian said later

585
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: in that clip, it was a good clip. People should

586
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: check it out. And he basically said they would never ever,

587
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: They're not like there's no way Art Rooney is firing

588
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. Like there's zero point zero percent chance. Now

589
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: if Mike Tomlin ever decided he just wanted to step away,

590
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: It's just weird that Ian to me would would say that.

591
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: But there's no indications that that would happen. That maybe

592
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: Tomlin would just be like I'm kind of done here.

593
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: Maybe do the Sean Payton thing where he's just like

594
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm retiring or you know, I'm out of here and

595
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: then like return a year later or something.

596
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: Okay, two things on that one is related to Sean Payton.

597
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 4: But this one, before I forget it. The Steelers, Mike

598
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: Tomlin is their third coach in history since nineteen sixty nine.

599
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: This is such a steady, patient organization that prides themselves

600
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: on that very thing and staying with the guys and

601
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 4: their guys.

602
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: It's like family.

603
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: So I mean, I just don't see them doing it

604
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 4: unless it's some type of mutually parting of ways, which

605
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: we hear a lot, but I feel like in this

606
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: case could actually happen, which makes me think maybe it's

607
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: a situation like Sean Payton where there's a trade, and

608
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: what if the trade is Mike Tomlin to the Giants WHOA.

609
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: Because of the Rooneys and the Maras.

610
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: A lot of NFL history has gone down right with

611
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: cooperation and work by the Rooneys the mar Yeah, and

612
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: not Rooney Mara, but she is, but I do very

613
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: much related she is literally.

614
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

615
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: So I just I just could see maybe a scenario

616
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 4: like that. I just don't see them parting ways with

617
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: him and nothing else happening. Like I think that it

618
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: could be mutually beneficial for both sides, maybe to have

619
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 4: a fresh start, because we're hearing reports about players not

620
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: showing up to meetings or coming in late, and this

621
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: is a team that is in playoff positioning right now.

622
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: This is important.

623
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Speaker 4: You would you would think that you wouldn't have to

624
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: convince guys to show up, like who is not listening

625
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: to people in the room there.

626
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: Well that's Aaron Rodgers's comments you're talking about. Well, it's

627
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: that time of year, you know, for him to just

628
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: start blaming everyone around it.

629
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: It's like, I.

630
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 4: Feel like we're all in a relationship with Aaron Rodgers.

631
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: DK Metcalf is feeling that too.

632
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: I mean, who is important enough even to be not

633
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: showing up to these meetings that he's talking about, not

634
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: on the same page. I mean, maybe it's John new Smith,

635
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: or maybe it is someone else who knows, because I

636
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: only say John new Smith because he was the one

637
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: that was running the route where Aaron Rodgers just threw

638
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: the ball where he wanted John new Smith to be

639
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: even though no one was clearly there, almost was punishing him.

640
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to point out a couple things here

641
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: with Rodgers.

642
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: Rogers' career to me as an effective starter has been dead.

643
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: And I keep seeing this idea, and I saw it

644
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: from my old boss Florio just just Tuesday of like,

645
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: well he's still you know, his stats are still pretty solid,

646
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: and people are in a website that covers the Steelers

647
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: actually aggregated me a week ago where I said Aaron

648
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: Rodgers is one of the worst starters in the league.

649
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: And the article was about how this is preposterous, How

650
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: could anyone possibly say that Aaron Rodgers is one of

651
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: the worst starters in the league. When you look at, okay,

652
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: his touchdown interception ratio and his completion percentage and whatever

653
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: is QB rating, it's like, okay, let's dig a little deeper.

654
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: First of all, use your eyes, Like, watch how limited

655
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: he is. Second of all, if you go to EPA

656
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: per play or you go to success rate, he is

657
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: anywhere from the bottom five, where it's like he's only ahead.

658
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: I looked at this in success rate on the season,

659
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I think ahead of Dylan Gabriel cam Ward and Joe

660
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: Flacco surprisingly was down there. Who's but Joe flaccol least

661
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: gives you big plays. Aaron Rodgers is low on these

662
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: lists because he knows how to make his stats look

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Speaker 1: good by throwing for seven yards on third and eleven

664
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Speaker 1: and and like, there's no incompletion, but he's not effective.

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Speaker 4: It just don't get the flash plays from him, the

666
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: fun plays. So when you watch it, just you can

667
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: almost feel the stagnation of the offense and Aaron Rodgers' frustration.

668
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: It completely bleeds through the play of the offense. So

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Speaker 4: I feel like as just to watch it is tough.

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Speaker 1: In general, it is tough, and the defense hasn't hasn't

671
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Speaker 1: helped they They are the most expensive defense in the league.

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Speaker 1: They have not lived up to that, and yet they

673
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Speaker 1: could be in first place after Sunday.

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Speaker 3: It would be very Mike Tomlin to win this game.

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Speaker 1: A little perspective though, Mike Sando of The Athletic had

676
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Speaker 1: this stat of the longest coaching tenures in NFL history

677
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Speaker 1: after winning their last Super Bowl in the same place

678
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Speaker 1: without basically getting.

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00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: Fired or retired, current coaches are their.

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Speaker 1: All time Oh okay, Mike Tomlin is already four years

681
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: clear of anyone else all time except for Don Shula.

682
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Speaker 1: But I think Mike Tomlin's great. He's no Don Shula.

683
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Speaker 1: Don Shula has the most wins of all time. Don

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Speaker 1: Shula has one of the highest winning percentages of all time.

685
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Speaker 1: He has multiple Super Bowls, they had a history of success.

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Speaker 1: He was the Miami Dolphins. In a way that it's

687
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Speaker 1: not Mike Tomlins.

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Speaker 2: It should be the Don Shula Award, by the way.

689
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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 1: The second longest, which, by the way, without getting fired,

691
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Speaker 1: tied tied for second Chuck Knowle, who was the last

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Speaker 1: you know, was the last one before Bill Cower. He

693
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Speaker 1: twelve years and they kind of forced him to retire

694
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Speaker 1: at twelve. Tomin's at sixteen years after his Super Bowl

695
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Speaker 1: and tied with him is John Harbaugh.

696
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Speaker 2: John Harball, yep, twelve years.

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Speaker 3: So it might be a lot a lot of careers ending.

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Speaker 2: And I always think back to ten years, I.

699
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Speaker 3: Should say, because they would both get jobs quickly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but before the Ravens drafted Lamar, John Harball was

701
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 4: on the hot seat and that was the big that

702
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 4: was the big topic and that year. But if he

703
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: didn't if he wasn't successful that year, he would have

704
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Speaker 4: been fired. And then everything turned things around for John

705
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Speaker 4: Harball with Lamar.

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Speaker 1: And to his credit, no one from the day they

707
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Speaker 1: drafted Lamar to the second he was bringing him in

708
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Speaker 1: as a little back, as like a backup to they

709
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: were losing some games at first. Like John Harbad just

710
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Speaker 1: said from day one, like Lamar Jackson's gonna be one

711
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Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, Like since day one.

712
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: He was right to hit his wagon to that start.

713
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're I'm killing the Steelers Super Bowl chances.

714
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Speaker 1: We're running out of time here. We are going to

715
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Speaker 1: do a TNF preview, so we kind of take a break.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to do any like rapid fire?

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00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: Well or not?

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Speaker 2: I was one thing I would really love.

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Speaker 3: To do to hear about. Okay, let's actually listen to.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid and we'll explain what context it is. This

721
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: is from his press conference on Monday about how the

722
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Speaker 1: Chiefs are going to attack the rest of the season.

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Speaker 8: You know that you pretty much have to win the

724
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Speaker 8: next five games. If you lose one, you're going to

725
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Speaker 8: need a lot of help to get into playoffs. What's

726
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Speaker 8: your level of confidence that things can start going your

727
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Speaker 8: way and that you can win these next five games

728
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Speaker 8: in a row.

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00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I believe that. I mean, I believe you.

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Speaker 6: Come.

731
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Speaker 9: If you're coming to me on this, Matt, I'm telling you,

732
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 9: we're going to go after you every game, and you

733
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Speaker 9: know that's how we roll. We're going to try to

734
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 9: tickle your tonsils on every every play, every game. And

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Speaker 9: but that's that's the attitude that we're coming in with.

736
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Speaker 2: Never have I ever heard that turn a phrase?

737
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good one.

738
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Speaker 2: Is this new to you too?

739
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: I've never heard tick all your tonsils before.

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Speaker 4: Now it feels like it isn't potentially not something we

741
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: should be saying on the show.

742
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: But no, that feels like a phrase that should be dying.

743
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: It also doesn't seem like it really is in context

744
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: of what with what we're talking about, because.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out, like why that was his

746
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Speaker 4: go to and why like when I I don't know,

747
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 4: it's just it's just weird because I'm picturing the field

748
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: and I'm like, is this like a defensive thing? Like

749
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

750
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: So we get down to the goal line.

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Speaker 1: We're we're listening to that in part because, yeah, the

752
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: Chiefs would need some help if they lose one more

753
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: game to make the playoffs. It might take eleven and

754
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: six to make the playoffs and they already have six losses.

755
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: But I just think, like parody this year in the

756
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: AFC is unlike anything I've seen before. And I just

757
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: if you put the Chiefs on the field with whoever

758
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: else you want to pick in the AFC right now,

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00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: you can't tell me that game's not a toss up.

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Speaker 1: I think if you picked the first seven or eight

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00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: teams in the AFC and put them on the field.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, you can't tell me that it's

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Speaker 1: not a toss up. So whatever seven teams make it,

764
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: you shake them all up. I feel like it could

765
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: go anyway. I really don't think there's any favorites, which

766
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Speaker 1: you know, by by logic means the Chiefs got a shot.

767
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: Here I have.

768
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Speaker 4: I had a premonition last night that the AFC championship

769
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Speaker 4: game will be between the Patriots and Broncos.

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Speaker 1: That would be great. Weirdly think that's happen. That would

771
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Speaker 1: actually go to the seeding. So Florio coming up a

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Speaker 1: lot in this show. Wow, I had a no. I

773
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Speaker 1: always want to give credit because this was from NBC

774
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Speaker 1: Sports research that the most teams have been eliminated at

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Speaker 1: this point in the season since divisional realignment happened. So

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Speaker 1: what I was gonna say is parody dead here in

777
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Quietly this year it's actually been. Even though

778
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: the AFC seems wide open at the top, the teams

779
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: at the bottom are truly awful in a way that

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Speaker 1: normally doesn't happen. The Giants have were eliminated first, and

781
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: then the Titans, Raiders, Saints and Cardinals are are already

782
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: like mathematically eliminated with five weeks to go, which is

783
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of hard to do. And the Jets, the Browns,

784
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: like the Commanders, they could be soon after that. So

785
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Speaker 1: even though it feels like it's any it is Anyone's

786
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: you know title in the AFC, it actually is going

787
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: to be harder to get into the playoffs. So this

788
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: is not what the the like decision makers wanted when

789
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: they wanted parody. It is You're gonna have to have

790
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: like a great record to make the playoffs. And there's

791
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: just a lot of more dead teams than almost ever before.

792
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Speaker 4: I guess, just because there's such different teams at the

793
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: top and the teams that we a lot of the

794
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: teams that we expected to be at the top are

795
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: not even in the playoff picture right now. And the

796
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 4: fact that the AFC South is super fascinating. This is

797
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: not how the season started at all.

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Speaker 2: So that's exciting.

799
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Speaker 3: It is exciting. It's just the bottom is like really

800
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 3: at the bottom.

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Speaker 2: This year that you're just like, it's a real fall up.

802
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: You have no chance.

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Speaker 1: Even some teams that aren't that bad, like the three

804
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Speaker 1: and nine Cardinals, all right, we did it.

805
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: We're not killing that segment. I don't even know what

806
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Speaker 3: that segment was.

807
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: We don't really either. You know, it's a work in

808
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: progress and we'll have to revisit it.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. We're going to come back

810
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: on the other side and we're going to preview. Is

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00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: this the biggest TNF game of the I think it is. Yeah,

812
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: back on NFL Daily, gonna drum some of these tnfs

813
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: being shook our recapping it after the game, and I'm

814
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: looking at the schedule. I'm just wanting a game like this,

815
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Speaker 1: So juicy Lions hosting the Cowboys, Lions favored by three.

816
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: Narratively.

817
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: I just think it's coming at such a fascinating point

818
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: in the season because the Lions were that cool, upstart team,

819
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: and I always think back to that playoff game, you know,

820
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship against the forty nine ers. Were in

821
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: the locker room afterwards, Dan Campbell got real and he said, Hey,

822
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee we're ever gonna get back here. But

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Speaker 1: that was like the first year the Lions were really

824
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: good and everyone thought okay, and then last year all

825
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: the injuries struck and they were like a little further away,

826
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Speaker 1: and now they seem even further away. Not only do

827
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Speaker 1: they have injuries, but they need to win this game

828
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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys or they are in deep trouble, likely

829
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Speaker 1: to miss the playoffs. They don't win this game, and

830
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: they're playing a team in Dallas, which I hate to

831
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: say it, Colleen is kind of like those Lions from

832
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: a few years ago.

833
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: They're fun and they're upstarts. It's new, they're entertaining.

834
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: How are they so likable? All right? That's what I

835
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: want to know.

836
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: It's like the Eagles are falling apart and the Cowboys

837
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: have the the inverse energy happening for them. It's they're fun,

838
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: they have fun personalities, they're fun to watch, they're good.

839
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Speaker 4: They have all of the vibes and momentum right now.

840
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 4: And the Lions coming off a massive upset at home

841
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 4: against the Packers in the division.

842
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: That was a huge game for them. They absolutely needed it.

843
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: And the fact that the fact that the Eagles are

844
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: slipping right now makes me feel like this is a

845
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 4: more important win for the Lions just because of this

846
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 4: window that could potentially be closing with them, because it

847
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 4: does seem like they are they're slipping. Okay, They're not

848
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 4: as dominant as they obviously started the season or had

849
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 4: been in the past. It's not a foregone conclusion that

850
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: they're going to make the playoffs. And we knew that

851
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 4: there was going to be a little bit of regression

852
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 4: with the both coordinators leaving, and we weren't sure how

853
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: that was going to hit. And we've seen some issues

854
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: with their run defense, and maybe that bodes well for

855
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: Javonte Williams in this game.

856
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: But the stakes could not be any higher in this one.

857
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: They couldn't. And I think multiple things can be true

858
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: to you. Okay, jordanism I picked the lines to make

859
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year. It's not happening. If they

860
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: were in the AFC, and like they had the same

861
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: percentage chance to make the playoffs as they do in

862
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: the NFC, had some work to do, Like sure they'd

863
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: have a chance. It's not happening in the NFC. Like

864
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: the Rams, the Seahawks, and the Packers are all really

865
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: freaking good yep, And it's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 3: This is not going to be their year.

867
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Speaker 1: But here's the multiple thing that's also true to me

868
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: is not closing at all. I do believe in the

869
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: organizational culture and their talent, They have a lot of

870
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: players in their prime sign long term. They can improve

871
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: in the offseason and come back at it next year.

872
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: You're momentum and not window.

873
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I because I'm really responding to Lions fans on

874
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: socials who just feel like it will have passed us.

875
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: That was our chance. We were close and now it's

876
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: not coming back. And I don't see that at all.

877
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: I think they are in a multiple year window. But

878
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: I do think this year is essentially over. If they

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Speaker 1: don't win this game, because they are in LA playing

880
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: the Rams next week, they could all but be eliminated

881
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: by the end of Week fifteen. And so it's a

882
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: great test of like what Dan Campbell has built. Because

883
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: I thought they were up for the fight against green Bay.

884
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Speaker 1: Watching that game they had injuries, I just realized, like,

885
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: they're not as talented, They're not as good as green Bay,

886
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: and Goff was still battling. It's about the defense to me,

887
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: and the lack of size in their secondary. Terry and

888
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: Arnold went on injured reserve this week and that was

889
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: a surprise to me. I did not know his injury

890
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Speaker 1: was going to be nearly that serious. And so you

891
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Speaker 1: have DJ Reid out there, and you have a Meek

892
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Speaker 1: Robertson and rock Ya Sen in these cornerbacks who are

893
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: all they're like the Colleen and Greg of NFL cornerbacks.

894
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: You know, we we don't take up much of the frame.

895
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Speaker 3: As Eric said before.

896
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Speaker 2: We are petite.

897
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Speaker 3: He was giving us scouting.

898
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Speaker 1: Reports on how different people move and where they need

899
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: to sit on their mark and said we were easy

900
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: because we're just so.

901
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Speaker 2: Well to your point.

902
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: With the Patrick, meanwhile, I was like all over the

903
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: place moving around.

904
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Speaker 1: He's like six foot whatever. Yeah, he just moves around.

905
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's moving around.

906
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Speaker 6: He's a wiggler, and he's bigger to begin with, it's stoic,

907
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 6: he's he's a statue.

908
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Speaker 3: You guys are small.

909
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Speaker 6: There's a lot of where you guys could be up

910
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 6: and down and left and right and not be out

911
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 6: of frame for one second.

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Speaker 1: But it really I think showed up in that Chiefs

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Speaker 1: game too, Like the Chiefs cornerbacks. Okay, yeah, maybe you

914
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Speaker 1: can double seedy Lamb, but then you got picking story about.

915
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Speaker 4: You do and just looking at the injury front for

916
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Speaker 4: the Lions, this is a big deal. With Sam Laporta

917
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 4: still dealing. He gone with injuries ankle injury for Amon

918
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 4: Ra Saint Brown. These are two massive pieces of this offense,

919
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: and this Cowboys defense is revitalized with what they did

920
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 4: before the trade deadline, and now it just seems like

921
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: the pieces are working so much better together. It's not

922
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: like you're not gonna have the same Micah Parson's effect

923
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 4: without Michael Parson's there, but this is obviously a much

924
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 4: better moving system altogether.

925
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: Now they're especially good stopping the run.

926
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Speaker 1: That's what Jerry Jones said he wanted, and Kenny Clark

927
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: and all that, and Quinn Williams should get a lot

928
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: of credit because he's having the best month of his career.

929
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: But if you think about the players that they've gotten

930
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: back or signed during this season, it's not just Quinn Williams,

931
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: Jenevian Clowney, who might not play in this game but

932
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: has made some place for them. Donovan Wilson and Malie Hooker,

933
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Speaker 1: their safety Tam and I both missed a lot of

934
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: time this year, especially Hooker. Suddenly they're back in the mix,

935
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Speaker 1: to Marvion Overshown, who is maybe the leader of that

936
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: entire defense, back in the mix, Logan Wilson, they traded

937
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Speaker 1: for from the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: He's playing.

939
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Speaker 1: Chavon Ravel is a third round cornerback who's playing. That

940
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: was seven guys I just listed. That's an entire defense. Yeah,

941
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Speaker 1: they look different because like it's a it's a totally

942
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: different group of players and they're gonna have a tough matchup.

943
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Speaker 3: I think the Lions can score a lot. The bigger

944
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Speaker 3: question to me.

945
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: Is is the Lions defense up for the fight because

946
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: they have not played that well the last couple of weeks.

947
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: Like they were getting a lot of love in the

948
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: last couple weeks, they've looked a little overmatched against elite offenses.

949
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: And that's that's what the Cowboys they have.

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00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: And I'm just looking at the Cowboys schedule. After the Lions,

951
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: they have the Vikings, which they could win win, Chargers

952
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: toss up, Commanders win win, Giants win.

953
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: You never know because it's the Cowboys and they always

954
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: get your hope up.

955
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: They already won their first matchups, so I don't know

956
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 4: if they'll sweep, but I think the Chargers Vikings.

957
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: I think the loser of this game is in deep trouble.

958
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: But I actually think it's it's it's equally big for

959
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: both teams. I think it's more likely if one of

960
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: these teams was going to lose a game and actually

961
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, that it would be the Cowboys, because

962
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys lose this game and get a sixth loss,

963
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: they have that tie, it's you know, it's in between,

964
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: and then they ran. They would have to run the

965
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: table after that. But I think they have a chance

966
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: to run the table against that schedule. If the Lions

967
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Speaker 1: lose this game, I just think because of the injuries

968
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: and everything that's happened, and then yeah, they have the

969
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: Rams next week, that would be very difficult. So either way,

970
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: I think each of these teams can probably afford one

971
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: more loss, and it's just coming at the perfect time.

972
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Speaker 1: And something we were talking about in the newsroom what

973
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's too late to have Dak Prescott

974
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Speaker 1: go on a little MVP conversation type of run. People

975
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: don't realize there's so much left of the season. There's

976
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: more than twenty five percent left of the season. If

977
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott balls out and they win out, he's played

978
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: awesome this year. He's got a shot, depending on what

979
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: happens with Stafford in May and whoever else is in

980
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: the mix.

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00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 3: I got a shot.

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00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: I tend to look at how many primetime games the

983
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 4: candidates have important the end of the year.

984
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 2: It's important, and we know that this is the last

985
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: one for Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: I think, no, he's got the He's got the Vikings

987
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: next the next week as well, somehow, and then he's

988
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: also got a Christmas Day game, which.

989
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: Is import Oh my gosh, that's right. I'm looking at

990
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the line schedule still. But what about

991
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford and the Rams.

992
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: They're going to be in the mix too. They will

993
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: absolutely have a chance. I think Stafford and May at

994
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: this point are the favorites. My point is more that

995
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: a lot of craziness is coming up.

996
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: Right, brace yourselves.

997
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 3: Did we do it?

998
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: We did something.

999
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: You know, how you feel alive is you have a

1000
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: show and you're not really sure what you're going to

1001
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: talk about or what's going to happen.

1002
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you make it happen. Yeah.

1003
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: And all of you were listener, all of you were

1004
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: along for the ride, and.

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00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: Honestly, we didn't get that dark and we didn't get

1006
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: that existential. I was disappointed.

1007
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: Maybe we need to do another one, right, now we'll

1008
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: just talk start over.

1009
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 3: We'll just talk afterwards about.

1010
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 2: The biggest regrets in that.

1011
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, when my parents left on their plane this week back,

1012
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: I was like, is that the last time?

1013
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: Oh my god, because they're gonna die. I'm not saying that,

1014
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 3: not because anything is going to happen. Because they're in

1015
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: their eighties.

1016
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: It's asking a lot for them to take a long

1017
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: cab to the airport and then fly seven hours by themselves.

1018
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: At some point seasons, you know, there's a cycle for everything,

1019
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: and it just might mean more trips for my family.

1020
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: Get into Massa, get yourself on that plane.

1021
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 3: It's okay to think about all this stuff. Don't make

1022
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: me cry the change that you want.

1023
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: Oh by the way, if you guys would like to

1024
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 4: send Christmas cards to us, yes, I would.

1025
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: Love to accept them and we will read some fun

1026
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: ones on the air.

1027
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 4: So get those in because for some reason, it takes

1028
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 4: a really long time to finally get to me once

1029
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 4: it goes through the mail room. So I totally me

1030
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 4: your family Christmas cards. I kept all once from last year.

1031
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 4: They're downstairs.

1032
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for listeners that don't know, we had a lot

1033
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Speaker 1: of listeners send in Christmas cards to Colleen because she

1034
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: was not getting enough Christmas cards. Yeah, so if you

1035
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: want to possibly be part of our Christmas episode this year,

1036
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: send them to nine hundred District Drive in Inglewood, California,

1037
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 1: nine oh three oh three, care of Colleen Wolf. Yes,

1038
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 1: you can say NFL Network care of Colleen Wolf. Again

1039
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: to nine hundred District Drive, Inglewood, California, nine oh three

1040
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: oh three. We want your family Christmas listener.

1041
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 4: I was crying last year at some of the cards

1042
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 4: in downstairs, in the little locker room, just reading your cards.

1043
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: They were so sweet and so fun and some of

1044
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 4: them were super funny. So please send them.

1045
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: It's all in front of us. You know what else

1046
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: is in front of us? Our preview show. Patrick Clayban

1047
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: will be with me. I might have some special guests.

1048
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: We'll see who else is there this week. It's all happening.

1049
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: I'm getting my Christmas treet tonight. Yes i am.

1050
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: What about pictures with santad.

1051
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: Jew Let's take a little break, what a note. We'll

1052
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Speaker 3: see you