Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Colleen Witt, and today we have very
Speaker 1: special guest actress and host Portia Coleman is in the building. Ramona,
Speaker 1: how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm good with just cooking of things, you know, not much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you already getting started. Why don't you go ahead?
Speaker 1: I mean you are not wasting any time?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: On this show, we do have a phrase, the broker
Speaker 1: the dish, the better the story. This dish was definitely
Speaker 1: under I want to say, or ten bucks probably. Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead and tell our listeners what are you gonna
Speaker 1: have me eating today?
Speaker 2: Listen? So I'm gonna have y'all eating pigs and a blanket.
Speaker 2: It's the perfect struggle meal because everybody knows a good
Speaker 2: hot dog. Yeah, but I never loved the hot dog
Speaker 2: buns as much as I like these biscuits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, the biscuits. You didn't even choose the chrismal.
Speaker 2: No, not Caissant's. The biscuits is by the time you
Speaker 2: pack them and you put them in and they get fluffy.
Speaker 2: Trust me, these pigs in a banket. It fills you
Speaker 2: up while you're struggling, but at the same time you
Speaker 2: appreciate it because it cooks. Usually I would always actually
Speaker 2: heat and cook my wieners first. Okay, okay, so I
Speaker 2: do that first usually, but they could still cook while
Speaker 2: in here too. So you take it like this. You
Speaker 2: take it and you roll it.
Speaker 1: So when you cook it, are you putting it in hot?
Speaker 2: I put the usually the wieners in fully cooked, but no,
Speaker 2: you put it in because the biscuit's gonna cook, and
Speaker 2: then the winner can cook inside it at the same time.
Speaker 2: Usually it's about fifteen minutes. I like my stuff well done,
Speaker 2: so I like to leave it in there so it's
Speaker 2: literally easy. And what I'm gonna do is, I'm actually
Speaker 2: gonna like put a little butter already in the pan
Speaker 2: because you don't want it to stick. You gotta have
Speaker 2: it be nice and greasy so it can kind of
Speaker 2: like toast a little bit too, like underneath it.
Speaker 1: And then we got you the buster the butter biscuits.
Speaker 1: If I didn't know you were gonna cook your first,
Speaker 1: I wasn't too sure on the show.
Speaker 2: I always like, I like to cook my wieners first,
Speaker 2: but it's okay because it can still cooked while inside.
Speaker 2: It's not a problem. But no, I like to butter
Speaker 2: this little pan. But see like this little I mean,
Speaker 2: look how cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's cute. I didn't know how you were gonna
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you take it and you roll it up again
Speaker 2: struggle meal.
Speaker 1: So you won't see the you won't see the hot
Speaker 1: dogs from the outside.
Speaker 2: See that's the thing. Sometimes you can take them and
Speaker 2: cut them up if you want a smaller biscuit. But
Speaker 2: since these are the wide ones, you can cut them
Speaker 2: up and just still have it throughout. Because if you
Speaker 2: take one whole wiener, the whole winer would be extended
Speaker 2: past the biscuit. Yeah, so you don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: It's already going to expand, and so will the wiinner itself,
Speaker 2: so you're gonna actually taste Look the wiinner's on both sides.
Speaker 2: See it's already here. So I'm telling you talking about struggle.
Speaker 2: This right here was my quick go to.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the ingredients are.
Speaker 2: Butter biscuits, butter biscuits, a little bit of butter and
Speaker 2: some margarine, and all you need is some some hot dogs.
Speaker 2: Like it's so simple and so easy. So look, so
Speaker 2: see you can go this way like this. So see
Speaker 2: how I'm putting them like this. You take them and
Speaker 2: you fold it this way, and you do it just
Speaker 2: like this, and you cover it because you want to
Speaker 2: make sure they don't open up while you're actually putting
Speaker 2: them in the Yeah, I'm telling you it looks crazy,
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be so delicious.
Speaker 1: I love it. I'm starving. So you don't ever add
Speaker 1: cheese or anything.
Speaker 2: No, we'll see these are butter biscuits though. Okay, so
Speaker 2: you can add cheese, but I personally didn't need cheese
Speaker 2: or like them necessarily in between it because again, we
Speaker 2: ain't got no cheese. But I never tried it with cheese,
Speaker 2: but I never I never needed it because again, these busts.
Speaker 2: Look at these biscuits.
Speaker 1: These are already so yet it's gonna be good. It's
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna mess with your dish. I'm just
Speaker 1: like getting creative from the sideline.
Speaker 2: Listen. I love it. So see this one, I don't
Speaker 2: let's say, I don't want to make it that long.
Speaker 2: Take it this way, m hm. You wrap it on.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. We have more than enough weianers
Speaker 2: to work with these biscuits. So we're gonna take this
Speaker 2: up in here, got it, roll it on down.
Speaker 1: And this is what you were doing to get through
Speaker 1: the hard times, did you not? So take me back
Speaker 1: to what was going on during these hard times.
Speaker 2: You know what? So I'm going all the way back
Speaker 2: to when I was seven. Okay, So we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about a little project, a movie that I'm sure you
Speaker 2: guys will all know called Friday. Oh yeah, I was
Speaker 2: a background after at the ice cream truck and Friday. Okay,
Speaker 2: So just to show how long this process has been,
Speaker 2: from seven till now, there's nothing overnight about my success
Speaker 2: at all. So I was seven years old, me and
Speaker 2: my mom, bugging it out, single mom?
Speaker 1: And did you have siblings?
Speaker 2: I have an older brother, but he's eighteen years older
Speaker 2: than me. Oh jeez, So I was technically raised like
Speaker 2: an only child because my.
Speaker 1: Brother had an eighteen years spread.
Speaker 2: Yeah, re married God with my dad and why exactly
Speaker 2: she said that finished line? She was thirty five and
Speaker 2: was like, I'm starting all over again? What is this?
Speaker 2: What is going on? Yeah? And she actually did just.
Speaker 1: Does she ever when she gets mad at you? Like
Speaker 1: ever mentioned like I started.
Speaker 2: All out over you. Yeah. She used to its me
Speaker 2: like that ain't my fault. You chose my daddy, and
Speaker 2: my daddy was ten years her junior. Oh, my pops
Speaker 2: was twenty she was thirty, and then they got married
Speaker 2: to have me at thirty five and twenty five, I said, mine,
Speaker 2: you was you was robbing the credle cridle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so she know what she was doing.
Speaker 2: Still together, No, they're not still together now, Like I said,
Speaker 2: my dad actually passing twenty nineteen. Oh yeah, it was
Speaker 2: tough because you know the interesting thing about life. I
Speaker 2: was with my dad the night before he suddenly passed away.
Speaker 2: Oh he suddenly just suddenly passed away. My dad was
Speaker 2: only fifty nine. He was fifty nine years old. So
Speaker 2: this is just the definition I think, following your intuition.
Speaker 2: So I'm out in the valley doing my thing, and
Speaker 2: I had a lot of airan chevon. I was gonna
Speaker 2: be a Marina. My dad lives in Compton Wilmington Central
Speaker 2: in LA. And something just told me go see your dad.
Speaker 2: And at first I was like, Oh, that's far away,
Speaker 2: there's traffic, and I don't know if I should go
Speaker 2: do that. Something told me again. I called my dad.
Speaker 2: He didn't answer, so I was like, all right, let
Speaker 2: me just pop up. I'm gonna go surprise my pops.
Speaker 2: He's probably already off work. I know he gonna be home.
Speaker 2: Go to his house. He in the garage, hill on
Speaker 2: his friends, still in his work outfit. Dotta, what are
Speaker 2: you doing here? And I'm like, nothing much. I just
Speaker 2: want to surprise you. What's up? What are we doing today?
Speaker 2: We loved going to Sizzler, we loved doing our this
Speaker 2: daddy daughter day and we spent the entire day together,
Speaker 2: entire day. So I left, probably it was I got
Speaker 2: there abound four or five, left around midnight. He said,
Speaker 2: call me tomorrow. You know, your daddy's awesome. Me go
Speaker 2: with my friend and just call me later. But he
Speaker 2: loves to talk. I did to get my dad to
Speaker 2: text because'd be on set. I'm like, Dad, I can't
Speaker 2: call you with this text. So the next day that's fine.
Speaker 2: I didn't hear from him, and no big deal. And
Speaker 2: then I get a call. I see it's my uncle
Speaker 2: calling me and he's like, come to the house. Something's
Speaker 2: wrong with your dad. And I'm like, what are you
Speaker 2: talking about? Something's wrong with my dad? Like that's just random.
Speaker 2: I just seen him I say, come to the house,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, Well, if he's not okay, I
Speaker 2: need to go to a hospital. He's like, just come
Speaker 2: to the house. They're not going to move him. What.
Speaker 2: And first thing I thought was, if somebody's sick, you
Speaker 2: got to move them. You gotta transport him. What's going on?
Speaker 2: So he didn't say that, but I knew in my
Speaker 2: mind it's like, something's not right. I was on my
Speaker 2: way to a premiere with me and my mom and
Speaker 2: we literally diverted from the one thirty fourth Freeway and
Speaker 2: went to Compton and I and as soon as we
Speaker 2: pulled around the corner, I'm talking about cop cars, but
Speaker 2: people all in the streets. My dad was very popular.
Speaker 2: Just you know. My dad had a key to the
Speaker 2: city at Compton because he saved people out of a
Speaker 2: plane crash that crashed into his house in twenty probably
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, and he was on Ellen DeGeneres and got
Speaker 2: the key to the city for saving people at his house.
Speaker 2: So my dad was that dude, and I knew something.
Speaker 2: I was like, I pulled around the corner and I
Speaker 2: was like what And my dad just had a sudden
Speaker 2: heart attack that morning. Wow. So again in my mind
Speaker 2: when I thought about that, I was like, of course devastated,
Speaker 2: but I was like that was meant to happen because
Speaker 2: my intuition told me to go see my father. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I did. Yeah, And having that peace was.
Speaker 1: Like I was gonna ask you, did it help you?
Speaker 2: Kind one thousand percent? And I never and honestly, like,
Speaker 2: knowing my dad and how vivacious he was, I didn't
Speaker 2: want to go into the house, like I knew, okay,
Speaker 2: if he had a sudden heart attack and if his
Speaker 2: wife had got home and it was all these hours later,
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's final. I don't need to see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: People came and I stayed around the corner while I
Speaker 2: know the coroner came, and I was like, I was
Speaker 2: with my dad before. And I literally thank God to
Speaker 2: this day for knowing that I was with him the
Speaker 2: day before and following that gut intuition that I did
Speaker 2: because I was with him the night before.
Speaker 1: How did your mom respond to it?
Speaker 2: Well, of course they had been separated for so long,
Speaker 2: they've been separated, but my mom of course was there.
Speaker 2: But it's like, wow, it's like, I mean family at
Speaker 2: the same time. So Mom was there, I remember she
Speaker 2: stayed the night at my house that that that same night,
Speaker 2: and it was just like the process of thinking like
Speaker 2: I was just with him, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: that was God giving me that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that.
Speaker 2: Was God giving me the final moment. So to this day,
Speaker 2: I'm grateful and even everything that I'm doing now, my
Speaker 2: daughter will always be bragging his friends. Oh my daughter's
Speaker 2: on TV. You gotta go watch my daughter. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I know, I'm making my pops proud. He's writing Inglewood
Speaker 2: in a mausoleum. Any time on driving by Inglewood, I
Speaker 2: go right to the mausoleum, go talk to catch him up.
Speaker 2: Like his presence is literally with me, because I've had
Speaker 2: two people that had no idea about my dad's passing
Speaker 2: call me and say, somebody just like I don't even
Speaker 2: know mediums, like I don't do none of that stuff.
Speaker 2: And two friends I remember calling me one day when
Speaker 2: I was on FaceTime with them and they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: you got to a little day, okay, And I was like,
Speaker 2: what are you, Like, what are you talking about? Like tripping?
Speaker 2: And then like ten minutes later, my friends were like,
Speaker 2: so when you FACETI behind you was a black guy
Speaker 2: in a ball head in a blue suit. Oh, my
Speaker 2: dad's bal head and was buried in a blue suit.
Speaker 2: And I had just left the mausoleum that day.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, I said, that's not scary,
Speaker 2: that's just my dad's presence.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And then somebody else did it before that same day
Speaker 2: and said somebody would have ball head in a blue suit.
Speaker 2: Is telling me to tell you, I'm so proud of
Speaker 2: of you data, And I was like, she said it
Speaker 2: the same exactly. This woman has never met my dad nothing,
Speaker 2: she's a publicist and had no idea. So the closure
Speaker 2: that I had in a sense of knowing that even
Speaker 2: though my dad has gone from this earthly life, my
Speaker 2: dad is with me. So dating back to when I
Speaker 2: was a kid and starting in all this journey, it's
Speaker 2: like you want to have your parents of course beside you,
Speaker 2: but sometimes it doesn't align like that. And my mom
Speaker 2: and dad had divorced, but my dad was still there
Speaker 2: watching me on TV, proud and supporting everything you know
Speaker 2: that I did. So it started when I was seven
Speaker 2: all the way up until the journey now. So it's
Speaker 2: no roses in prettyness over here. Every father's there. I'm
Speaker 2: saying Happy Father's Day to the men that are no
Speaker 2: longer here, you know, and the fathers that have have departed.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But it's a blessing because
Speaker 2: I had him in my life and I know he's around. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so many things happened. I'm like, look at my dad
Speaker 2: just doing his duties, not a father, because he was protective.
Speaker 2: He was protected. He'd be like, you're trying to holler
Speaker 2: my daughter. Uh uh, Like he was that guy and
Speaker 2: from Compton. So this is LA's finest.
Speaker 1: Yes, So this is official pigs in the blanket going.
Speaker 2: There's official pigs and a blanket. And here's the thing.
Speaker 2: So these biscuits were gonna obviously like expand. And the
Speaker 2: funny thing is that these business are all gonna be touching,
Speaker 2: which is fine. So we're gonna cut them and separate
Speaker 2: them so we can all have our own gift. Kids.
Speaker 2: I wish I had another biscuits because I got two
Speaker 2: more wieners. But it's fine, it's fine. We got the pig.
Speaker 2: Lit come on, now he's on in the blanket, So
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna stop process. I'm gonna put the
Speaker 2: time on put the time. I'm gonna put it about fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes timer. Let's see here, Okay, I got right now fourteen,
Speaker 2: Let's do fifteen minute count.
Speaker 1: Fifteen and then the package say eight. But you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, the package has twelve to fifteen. Ok but
Speaker 2: we gonna say twelve to fifteen. So no, I like
Speaker 2: it to go the max. So we can get that
Speaker 2: little Chris and I'm gonna look at I'm gonna keep
Speaker 2: my eye on it. Okay, we're gonna talk meat.
Speaker 1: So take go ahead and take me back to seven
Speaker 1: year old. You were gonna go all the way back
Speaker 1: to Friday. Okay, I didn't mean to take you off.
Speaker 1: It's all good, but it was. It's a fond memory.
Speaker 1: I love hearing that story that you got that moment. Now,
Speaker 1: so you and your mom, you're auditioning, you're doing all
Speaker 1: of this. You land the Friday movie? Yeah, single mom?
Speaker 1: Are you guys struggling?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But landing the Friday movie in the sense of background.
Speaker 2: So background acting is how I started. So I didn't
Speaker 2: come off the gate being principal. So when you have
Speaker 2: a background agency, they basically send you not even an audition,
Speaker 2: you don't book it technically. They to see you on
Speaker 2: a piece of paper and say we need little kids
Speaker 2: that you know are between seven and ten to be
Speaker 2: an ice cream scene. Oh that's literally what happened.
Speaker 1: So do you get paid for those?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you definitely get paid, but it's like your background,
Speaker 2: so it's not a ton. You might get forty something
Speaker 2: bucks a day, but you get your vouchers and that
Speaker 2: helps you get to sag later on. So I'm seven.
Speaker 2: If you remember the scene, Meghan good is right next
Speaker 2: to me at the ice cream truck. I remember that,
Speaker 2: and that's what we're standing side by side. I'm one
Speaker 2: of the little kids at ice Cube. You know, he's
Speaker 2: talking from the porch. But Chris Tucker comes up. He
Speaker 2: hitting kids, Get out the way, get up the way
Speaker 2: to get the big work. Oh I thought. I was
Speaker 2: like so bombed when he hit me upside the head
Speaker 2: like trying to get to the ice cream truck. And
Speaker 2: I'm like dang, Like it was so funny and so
Speaker 2: cool because that was my first job and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I love this. I can get paid just to like
Speaker 2: hang out with some friends and be on camera.
Speaker 1: It was like immediate So was it your mom that
Speaker 1: kind of brought this acting idea to you or were
Speaker 1: you going to your mom like I think I want
Speaker 1: to pursue it.
Speaker 2: It was both. I was already like, I have video
Speaker 2: literally at three years old, I was in school plays.
Speaker 2: I have literally a video with three at the private
Speaker 2: school that I was at. The song called Daddy, You're
Speaker 2: My Hero in a play, so like, I literally was
Speaker 2: already starting.
Speaker 1: So she saw it and completely poured into it.
Speaker 2: At five YMCA, I'm singing I Miss You much Janet
Speaker 2: Jackson with a flashlight, two backup dancers that I had
Speaker 2: doing the running Man the whole time.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you were you were already invested already. So
Speaker 1: what does your mom doing to support y'all while you're
Speaker 1: on this journey.
Speaker 2: Well, my mom had a job. She worked at the
Speaker 2: LA Unified School District, so she worked in busing and
Speaker 2: then she was going for a promotion. The promotion didn't
Speaker 2: work out, and then she was like, well, I can
Speaker 2: go back to work, or I'll take you to auditions
Speaker 2: and just figure out the process from here. And at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's like, you need somebody
Speaker 2: to take you to auditions because as a single. Mom,
Speaker 2: how you gonna get there? You can't drive? So my brother,
Speaker 2: mind you, who's eighteen years like he's telling you older
Speaker 2: than me. He's already in college. So I'm four or
Speaker 2: five years old. My brother's at Washington State. And then
Speaker 2: he had actually got drafted to like he played for
Speaker 2: the Raiders, the Oilers, the Niners for a bit. So
Speaker 2: my brother was gone. It was just me and mom's.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So my aunt and my uncle were already doing a
Speaker 2: lot of background work. So at that time it was like, okay,
Speaker 2: you might do one or two jobs a week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can take them to set, but a parent always
Speaker 2: has to be there. So in between that process, my
Speaker 2: mom was doing it. If my brother was in town,
Speaker 2: he'd take me. And then I got an agency and
Speaker 2: I booked three commercials like that. Really it took me
Speaker 2: like six months to get my SAG vouchers.
Speaker 1: But now commercials is more money.
Speaker 2: Hello, because at that point you got a join SAG.
Speaker 2: So when you're in the union, you get more money.
Speaker 2: So I went from making probably thirty forty a day
Speaker 2: to where I made thousands at a time. I did
Speaker 2: a tie commercial with Alberson's commercial and another one was
Speaker 2: like this purple Moon like doll commercial.
Speaker 1: And at that age, they're putting in an account for you.
Speaker 2: So you have a Cougan account, so ten percent of
Speaker 2: it goes to a Coogan account, which is literally.
Speaker 1: Only ten percent. Yeah, oh I thought ninety then you
Speaker 1: get ten percent.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's more of a percentage. But the parents
Speaker 2: are the ones that actually get the full amount of money.
Speaker 2: Oh so ten percent for sure is going to where
Speaker 2: the kids are. You know, let's say they want to
Speaker 2: go to college, and so later on they have that
Speaker 2: little percentage, but that's still not enough. Being fully transparent,
Speaker 2: It's like when you think of a household. If a
Speaker 2: parent is not working, if a parent is taking their
Speaker 2: child's money to live in the household, you're not making
Speaker 2: no money. Yeah, because I remember I had when I
Speaker 2: looked later, I remember looking probably ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: By the time I was eighteen, it's about five hundred
Speaker 2: and some thousand dollars that I had made, but it
Speaker 2: was only a couple thousand in any account.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: Now what yeh?
Speaker 1: Does that make you feel some type of way towards
Speaker 1: your parents?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if I'm being transparent, yes, because
Speaker 2: I feel like, at the end of the day, no
Speaker 2: different than we've had parents. Like look at the Raven Simons,
Speaker 2: you got Kyla Prass. This is all people that I
Speaker 2: grew up with, Megan, all of us. I knew their
Speaker 2: parents had jobs, whether they had one parent or two,
Speaker 2: they were working. So I was not thinking in the
Speaker 2: process at the time. Okay, I'm supporting a household. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you didn't dawn on me till like I'm eighteen and
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, now I'm not moving out right away,
Speaker 2: but I'm paying for everything. And by the time I'm
Speaker 2: ready to go go, which was still much later than
Speaker 2: most people end up leaving home.
Speaker 1: You made all this money, but you still couldn't leave
Speaker 1: because you.
Speaker 2: Saying yes, I'm very I'm very much saying that because
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if someone is like,
Speaker 2: right now the business mind that I have now, so
Speaker 2: many things would have been different. But I didn't know
Speaker 2: I was a kid. There's no way there should have
Speaker 2: been a business that my mom set up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you look at the Mary Kay to
Speaker 1: Nashley Olson's man, the parents, the parents like whooped.
Speaker 2: Of course they kicked asked with their investments or a
Speaker 2: lot of times you see, even like the Raven simone
Speaker 2: like they had her father always saw with certain auditions.
Speaker 2: Do I feel like I wish my mom would have
Speaker 2: took the business mindset that a lot of other parents had. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: because I remember getting eaten up in taxes as a
Speaker 2: kid when my mom should have had a company LLC
Speaker 2: or escort or something.
Speaker 1: Oh, the money was going directly to you.
Speaker 2: Yes, But therefore, since she didn't work, I'm paying like
Speaker 2: I'm not her dependent, she's technically mine. Yeah, so in
Speaker 2: tax is mine, I'm getting eaten up in so many ways.
Speaker 2: Where someone new business, it would have been different. Now
Speaker 2: now I have two companies, two businesses, everything runs through
Speaker 2: es Corps, and I pay personal taxes. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: well now it's like it's next level. But I didn't
Speaker 2: know nothing.
Speaker 1: Do you have yourself on payroll like a salary?
Speaker 2: Yeah, depending you have to. Yeah, a lot of times
Speaker 2: you have yourself on salary because it's like I'm employing myself.
Speaker 2: So even like right now on the shows that I have,
Speaker 2: I am employing. My company is employing Porsche to come
Speaker 2: to work. Yes, and that's how not only is it legal,
Speaker 2: but it's legit because people don't realize that LLCs they
Speaker 2: stop and cap you at how much you can write off.
Speaker 1: Well, it also helps you too. And I talk about
Speaker 1: this a lot, yeah on camera, but when you're going
Speaker 1: to buy real estate, you being an employee allows you
Speaker 1: to leverage more versus if you're just an independent contract
Speaker 1: care company.
Speaker 2: Independent contractors don't get looked at as a good business
Speaker 2: person to loan money to.
Speaker 1: And then and then the banks also get look at
Speaker 1: you as higher risks because they're like, wait, how do
Speaker 1: we know your business is even gonna be here.
Speaker 2: There's too many people that are entrepreneurs, too many people
Speaker 2: that are trying to trying to say it, because this
Speaker 2: entertainment is full of people that are hoping to make it.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, if I'm a bank,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to give you five hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: because you got a hope and a dream. I would
Speaker 2: give you that money if I saw you had a
Speaker 2: company and you're putting yourself on saling and your company
Speaker 2: already gross this money and you're paying yourself a salary
Speaker 2: of eighty or ninety k. It just looks different on paper.
Speaker 2: So in hindsight, of course, everything that I see now
Speaker 2: I wish my mom had done. And there's a lot
Speaker 2: of tension that it came from that once I let
Speaker 2: her know.
Speaker 1: Like when did you let her know? Like what age
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 2: Like? Oh, man, I got my license in sixteen. So
Speaker 2: when I got my license, the first thing I said was, Okay, Mom,
Speaker 2: I want you to transition from this standpoint of being
Speaker 2: just my mom that's with me, to being maybe a CPA.
Speaker 2: Maybe you could be a business manager. Maybe you could
Speaker 2: do this I'm talking about. I'm like, so big college,
Speaker 2: like your mom, not your ma mager, correct the ma major.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people take that standpoint. But
Speaker 2: to me, if you're my manager, you bringing jobs to
Speaker 2: the table.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're like booking your own jobs. You're dealing
Speaker 1: with my agent exactly she's doing.
Speaker 2: She's dealing with the agents and calling them because obviously
Speaker 2: that back then it was pages. Let me talk. I'll
Speaker 2: tell my age is pagers. You get a page, come
Speaker 2: to the office, you gotta leave, you got an audition,
Speaker 2: Come because you have a meeting. So she's driving me everywhere.
Speaker 2: But at the point when I'm able to drive, and
Speaker 2: I got my diploma when I was sixteen, years old.
Speaker 2: I was legally emancipated in sixteen. I graduated a year
Speaker 2: emancipated in sixteen. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: You divorced your mom.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. So let's clarify that, no, emancipation is
Speaker 2: in the system of schooling. You're technically legally listed as
Speaker 2: an adult because when people are working on set, actors
Speaker 2: and kids can only work about like four to six hours. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if I'm sixteen, but if I've already got my diploma,
Speaker 2: that means they don't have to send me to schooling
Speaker 2: on set, and if I've already legally fulfilled my obligation
Speaker 2: in the school system, I can work twelve to fifteen
Speaker 2: hours like an adult.
Speaker 1: So you're saying emancipated in this That's what it means
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Emancipation is legally in the system of acting.
Speaker 1: Okay, because they have emancipation, Like I know in New York,
Speaker 1: it's like where you you sever that time with your parents,
Speaker 1: they're no longer legally financially response.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's for sure. I've definitely seen a lot
Speaker 2: of kids that are like going through adoption and they're like, hey, okay,
Speaker 2: I want to mancipate for my parent. You know, in
Speaker 2: the emancipation of acting world, it's just from the sense of, oh,
Speaker 2: you're graduating. Because I even remember the first time it
Speaker 2: really counted was when I remember I was sixteen going
Speaker 2: on seventeen and the Parkers audition came up, and I
Speaker 2: remember they wanted somebody like in their twenties. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I was only seventeen. They didn't know that, but my
Speaker 2: agent I was listed as an adult. By the time
Speaker 2: I got on set and was working with Monique and
Speaker 2: all them, they were like, how old are you? And
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've already graduated. I drive myself to set. Wow,
Speaker 2: I'm treated like an adult in the system. So therefore,
Speaker 2: companies want to work with the kids. Even if you
Speaker 2: see a lot of movies back in the day when
Speaker 2: we were watching Saved by the Bill, all the kids
Speaker 2: weren't high schoolers. They're in their thirties for a reason. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Power Rangers, all these different shows where you have kids,
Speaker 2: the actors are of age, they just play younger.
Speaker 1: Now, when Monique and those guys found out, like, hey,
Speaker 1: she's younger, did it cause a little bit.
Speaker 2: No, It was totally fun because me and count is
Speaker 2: vond were not necessarily close in age, but we always
Speaker 2: had to vibe. Me and ken Elle Countess Parker, like
Speaker 2: even Monique. I walked on seting the first thing she
Speaker 2: said was we need to get this bittion food. You
Speaker 2: too scared? And I was like, here we go, Like no,
Speaker 2: it was a vibe. It was. It was so fun.
Speaker 2: But the fact that I already graduated early outside of emancipation.
Speaker 2: I did all my credits that I needed, and I
Speaker 2: already was ahead of my courses and was smart. So
Speaker 2: I graduated literally a year early.
Speaker 1: Did you now were you going to regular schooling or
Speaker 1: were you doing private?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I went to Hollywood High School Performing Arts, right,
Speaker 2: So you're busting.
Speaker 1: You really focused, you knew what you wanted to do.
Speaker 2: I was a school I loved school and I loved working,
Speaker 2: So I went to school. I got all my credits,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, I wanted to be an actress,
Speaker 2: so I figured, if I can go to school finish early,
Speaker 2: I can get out and go to set in full time.
Speaker 2: So I got my diploma. Then I went to a
Speaker 2: home school and just took like calculus and just like
Speaker 2: some math classes to already be over yeah, like I
Speaker 2: already went over expectation what I needed to do because
Speaker 2: I was already I looked and as a junior, I
Speaker 2: was like, wait, I could have graduated, like at the
Speaker 2: tenth grade. I know not I have so many credits
Speaker 2: because you get more credits when you're on set. I
Speaker 2: was like, I could have been out of school. So
Speaker 2: I checked out my junior year and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to a whole school for two three months,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad I did because I end up getting
Speaker 2: a Disney movie and I was not even gonna be
Speaker 2: home for my graduation.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So I remember going to another friend's prom and literally
Speaker 2: celebrating my birthday in Salt Lake City on the set
Speaker 2: of Pixel Perfect.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I did it Disney with, which is big now
Speaker 2: on Disney Plus people go watch it all the time.
Speaker 2: They hit me.
Speaker 1: So at sixteen, though, you're starting to say hey mama.
Speaker 2: Yeah, cause I'm driving, I'm doing my things. So I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: I don't need you in that capacity, so maybe try
Speaker 2: to shift into this lane. So it's also like trying
Speaker 2: to adult in a way, because you grow up fast
Speaker 2: when you're in entertainment.
Speaker 1: Mind youuly having a conversation like that with your parents.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like you need that, like because I know,
Speaker 2: like I'm very self sufficient so much in a way
Speaker 2: where it's like it's scary where I'm like, I have
Speaker 2: to let other people help me do things because I'm
Speaker 2: so used to doing it myself. But at sixteen, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I got my license, I already had a first car,
Speaker 2: I got everything, so now let's try to transition into
Speaker 2: this phase of what you can be for me. But
Speaker 2: my mom is stuck on like, no, I gotta be there.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna be with you and we're gonna be together.
Speaker 2: And I'm like okay. So it kind of kept going,
Speaker 2: you know, for a while, and I'm like, Okay, the
Speaker 2: transition has to happen because why am I going to
Speaker 2: pay another person to do what I'd rather pay my
Speaker 2: mom to do. Because if you look at a lot
Speaker 2: of people that are celebrities, they hire like Jamie. One
Speaker 2: of my good friends, Jamie Fox, love him so much.
Speaker 2: His sister is his stylist, His best friend is his
Speaker 2: wardrobe stylist. His sister does his heir, He keeps his
Speaker 2: stuff in the family, and I love that because you
Speaker 2: trust your family, So it's like you want to do that,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, if they're not capable of
Speaker 2: doing it, I'm also not going to be putting myself
Speaker 2: in a position to not have you doing the proper
Speaker 2: job when you need to go get get training. If
Speaker 2: you're gonna be my CPA, I need you to study business.
Speaker 2: If you're going to be my manager, I need you
Speaker 2: to go study on how to talk to these agencies.
Speaker 1: No, so what is her capacity right now?
Speaker 2: To you? Oh that's interesting. Just look at the ball,
Speaker 2: Look at the biscuit.
Speaker 1: It looks so good.
Speaker 2: Come on, you think I'm playing.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get out of this question.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get out the question. The capacity right
Speaker 2: now currently.
Speaker 1: We probably have to stop that big bad the audio
Speaker 1: is gonna they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Go, oh yeah, okay, so let's let's stop the I
Speaker 2: got it, I got you. Look how fire it looked though.
Speaker 1: It looks good. I'm hungry too.
Speaker 2: Oh man, are they getting this because y'all see my biscuits?
Speaker 2: No to see it right here? Okay?
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, It just reminded me to do
Speaker 1: my job.
Speaker 2: Come on, it's okay. Oh brow look at the pigs
Speaker 2: in the blanket. Wow, the pigs are in the blanket.
Speaker 2: And that's why I told you.
Speaker 1: Now, why do you use the biscuits? Did you answer
Speaker 1: me before? Why you use the biscuit and not the.
Speaker 2: The crsuns are too flaky? Oh really yeah, so crssants
Speaker 2: are too flaky. So therefore I love flaky. But the
Speaker 2: things that they're going to fall apart if you're cooking
Speaker 2: them too long when you're cooking also the winner. So
Speaker 2: that's the only thing I love flaky. But these biscuits
Speaker 2: also have a little bit of on tool. So that's
Speaker 2: why I told you I needed the butter, because see,
Speaker 2: look when you put the.
Speaker 1: Butter, it is curious.
Speaker 2: It is it is for sure. I remember we turned
Speaker 2: it back on. So see you got to get the boy.
Speaker 2: She turned it back on. When she came back in,
Speaker 2: you turned it back on. It's all okay, cool, it's sorry,
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 1: It looks so good.
Speaker 2: It's delicious. I'm telling you when you get the little biscuits.
Speaker 1: So your your mom, yes, is she at the is
Speaker 1: she at mom capacity or is she at I'm doing something?
Speaker 2: I want her to be at mom capacity. But I
Speaker 2: think if we're just being transparent, because a lot of
Speaker 2: people go through this, you know, in the ship and
Speaker 2: dynamic when it comes to their kids. Sometimes growing up,
Speaker 2: I had to choose myself over what my mom was
Speaker 2: kind of stuck on because I think at the point
Speaker 2: when someone gets angry with you because they're not around
Speaker 2: in a capacity that they want, when you're telling them
Speaker 2: what you need, it can get a little toxic. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I kept telling her what I needed and what
Speaker 2: was important, and for her it would go over her head.
Speaker 2: She didn't care. So I had to kind of put
Speaker 2: this position of like, Mom, these people are going to
Speaker 2: be helping me do it. You at any point can
Speaker 2: kick in when you want to. But if that's not
Speaker 2: going to happen, unfortunately, we're going to have to to
Speaker 2: cause a separation in this relationship.
Speaker 1: And then at this point is she working other jobs.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about it.
Speaker 2: So it's so good. That's why I'm buttering it. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm doing it, girl, Venus, That's why I'm doing
Speaker 2: I'm getting you to your biscuits. I'm preparing your biscuits.
Speaker 2: I think I would hope that she's of course, you know,
Speaker 2: you know proud, which I think it's that dynamic, but
Speaker 2: at the same time, it's almost proud of you. They
Speaker 2: would reach out to you too.
Speaker 1: Are you guys not talking?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Ah, dang no.
Speaker 2: And again I feel like it's only a matter of time.
Speaker 2: But here goes back to but.
Speaker 1: How long have you guys not been talking? Is it
Speaker 1: like a bad month?
Speaker 2: It's been No, it's been longer than a month. It's
Speaker 2: been longer than a month. And I'm only saying this
Speaker 2: from the standpoint because I think the power of healing
Speaker 2: is what people need to no one understand. And choosing
Speaker 2: yourself because sometimes parents' job, I think, is to raise
Speaker 2: their children to be able to fly off.
Speaker 1: And yes, I have this discussion with my husband all
Speaker 1: the time, like I think our responsibilities to kind of belity.
Speaker 2: And your kids to leave you because at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, you're not going to be around forever
Speaker 2: and your kids have to be okay without you. I've
Speaker 2: been so self sufficient for so long, but I realize
Speaker 2: doing that, I enabled my mother to be self sufficient.
Speaker 1: Well, that was going to be one of my questions
Speaker 1: because it seems like you were very self sufficient book, Yeah,
Speaker 1: wouldn't your mom who had a role to play. Where
Speaker 1: did this independence come from?
Speaker 2: You know, I think the independence came well in a way,
Speaker 2: technically from my mom too. If my mom's a single mother,
Speaker 2: you grow up watching someone do it all alone, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: So technically in a way that helped me. See like, okay,
Speaker 2: I could do things on my own because of course
Speaker 2: I'm young. It's not like I have a man or
Speaker 2: need something. I had managers, I had agents, I had
Speaker 2: people in my life that were there. But when it
Speaker 2: came time to do business, when I was like, wait
Speaker 2: a minute, y'all, look at this though, Look at you.
Speaker 2: I told you that I'm talking about pigs in a blanket.
Speaker 2: Grab one. So I'm telling you grab one, take it
Speaker 2: and put your little ketchup and your little mustard on
Speaker 2: the plate. Butter and the butter, popp and that's that's
Speaker 2: what they need. The butter. You gotta get the butter.
Speaker 2: That's why I put a little extra on there. And
Speaker 2: I love butter. That's what I'm saying. You gotta get
Speaker 2: the butter on a bit.
Speaker 1: I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Put that. If you want a little Dejon too, I
Speaker 2: usually just do ketchup and shake up the ketchup because
Speaker 2: you don't like it to be you know, the watering
Speaker 2: paratly gonna come out first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how long have you and your mom not
Speaker 1: been talking?
Speaker 2: So it's it's it's been a second. I think it's been.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I look back and the last
Speaker 2: sext message was November or something like that.
Speaker 1: But even before Sisters is out and you didn't get it. Congratulations. No,
Speaker 1: but damn that sucks. I mean sorry, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, you know kids, you're thinking about it in
Speaker 1: the back of your mind.
Speaker 2: We're talking honestly, we're talking honestly. My thing is that
Speaker 2: I wish that people and this is what anybody And
Speaker 2: that's when I had to separate the difference between you
Speaker 2: might need to cut into it. If not, just take
Speaker 2: a bite. Let let's take our first bide. Do you
Speaker 2: want to do it?
Speaker 1: Want to do it?
Speaker 2: Dip it in? Take a bile? Right right? How we
Speaker 2: like him?
Speaker 1: Go to now?
Speaker 2: How are we liking him? Make sure you get the
Speaker 2: winger and they're.
Speaker 1: Doing I'm gonna eat this whole thing.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you she likes it, y'all. First of all,
Speaker 2: she killed her biscuit and her pig and a blanket,
Speaker 2: so I almost say this is a hit.
Speaker 1: It's a definite head noah, you know, I will definitely
Speaker 1: go home and do this for my time, you know,
Speaker 1: for your kids.
Speaker 2: Like we're making pigs in a blanket today, So you
Speaker 2: want the more christal. You don't have to put as
Speaker 2: much butter. But I like the butter because it just
Speaker 2: seeps it in, right, mm hmm, so good.
Speaker 1: This is brilliant, easy, and it's brilliant right to the point.
Speaker 1: Then it's take less than five bucks.
Speaker 2: Five dollars. Get you some biscuits. Pop them open, put
Speaker 2: them in a blanket. And that's why you see I
Speaker 2: rolled them like that so they stay tight. So even
Speaker 2: though it looked like they were mushed, when as soon
Speaker 2: as the biscuit expands, it still keeps it. So you
Speaker 2: see the winder on the outside here.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the way you did the
Speaker 1: hot do say?
Speaker 2: Listen, I was fine with the hot dogs, Like I said,
Speaker 2: I usually cook them before, but the hot dogs are
Speaker 2: already Like, it's fine, the hot dogs are cooked. That's
Speaker 2: why I wanted you at least a good fifteen life.
Speaker 2: So good, I hold up tearing it up. This is
Speaker 2: my hope and this is what my thoughts.
Speaker 1: Well, this is a contribution of your mom. R.
Speaker 2: This is a contribution because she used to do pigs
Speaker 2: in a banket for me, I think for me where
Speaker 2: I think the separation, of course even started more after
Speaker 2: me kind of begging and even saying like, hey, ten
Speaker 2: years ago, I'm like, we need to help our relationship
Speaker 2: go to the next level because I'm not a parent,
Speaker 2: but I feel like, as a parent, you should transition
Speaker 2: from this is my child, this is my young adult,
Speaker 2: this is my adult. Now we're friends in a capacity.
Speaker 2: I'm still the mother, But how do you need me
Speaker 2: to be there for you?
Speaker 1: The guiter from like the.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. It's like, if I'm self sufficient
Speaker 2: in my business, all I need you to do is
Speaker 2: just be a mom and be my.
Speaker 1: Parent in that way, like listening and just and.
Speaker 2: Being that person not combative or not.
Speaker 1: But also a cheerleader too, like the boy Sisters is
Speaker 1: out like cheerleading.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's great. My mom was always the cheerleader.
Speaker 2: But I would notice that when I'm trying to work
Speaker 2: on the depth of our relationship, she was more focused on, Okay,
Speaker 2: there's a red carpet, Okay, there's something we can go
Speaker 2: to here, And it was distracting from me because I'm like, listen,
Speaker 2: I'm your daughter first and foremost before i'm a celebrity
Speaker 2: on the red carpet. Yeah, And I had to start
Speaker 2: choosing to notice the boundaries and where no, you're not
Speaker 2: going to reap the benefits without doing the work. And
Speaker 2: I'm the type of person who I'm like, I want
Speaker 2: to do the work. And that's where it kind of
Speaker 2: got tricky when I was like, Okay, you're not going
Speaker 2: to come to this event, You're not going to come
Speaker 2: to that, Well, what's the problem, Because I told you
Speaker 2: the problem. We got to work on our relationship and
Speaker 2: choosing to not want to do that and not wanting
Speaker 2: to heal and wanting to just.
Speaker 1: Has she ever done counseling? And I'm sorry, I.
Speaker 2: Remember one time it was Yeah, I've offered over and over.
Speaker 2: I sent the therapies, I sent all of that, just
Speaker 2: trying to say, this is what we need to be
Speaker 2: because I'm willing to be transparent, but I have things
Speaker 2: that I want to talk about as a child that
Speaker 2: I feel that this is what would help our mommy
Speaker 2: daughter relationship but also the business side. But you need
Speaker 2: to learn how to separate the two. And that's why
Speaker 2: you see a lot of kids that are suing parents
Speaker 2: because their parents didn't necessarily know how to separate that
Speaker 2: same thing. So do I feel we can get back
Speaker 2: on track? Yes? But am I in a space right
Speaker 2: now where I'm like I did all I could, knowing
Speaker 2: that I put it out there regarding Mom, this is
Speaker 2: where I'm at, this is what needs to happen for us,
Speaker 2: and let's go have someone else come in. And I
Speaker 2: think it's someone with that generation too. My mom is
Speaker 2: seventy five. God bust the people that are at the
Speaker 2: generation prior, you know, or two generations prior, because she
Speaker 2: had me at thirty five, so there is a big
Speaker 2: age gap there. So a lot of the beliefs are
Speaker 2: like therapy, why would you do that?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I noticed that with the I feel like
Speaker 1: with that age, not trying to hate on that age
Speaker 1: where not.
Speaker 2: I do see that with even peers like they're stubborn, They're.
Speaker 1: Hella stubborn and they're hella. What is it like defensive?
Speaker 1: It's like almost like.
Speaker 2: Defense mechanism, Like crazy, if I can say, hey Mom,
Speaker 2: this is what I need, can we do this? What
Speaker 2: about you and I'm like, wait, I'm just having a
Speaker 2: conversation about hot.
Speaker 1: The defensiveness is the tricky part, and I think as
Speaker 1: their child who loves them, and you're like, man, after
Speaker 1: a while, it's like I don't even want to address
Speaker 1: these things because it could set off a nuclear bomb
Speaker 1: and that's where the break ends up in the sea.
Speaker 2: So many parents, I realize, have that sort of mindset,
Speaker 2: but in that age bracket, it's so crazy, and kids
Speaker 2: that are my age, there are so many people, like
Speaker 2: I said, because I haven't even talked about this and
Speaker 2: like even like put it out there like that only
Speaker 2: a couple close friends know. There's so many people that
Speaker 2: I know that had to separate from their parent because
Speaker 2: of the healing that needed to be done, that the
Speaker 2: parent was either choosing to try to live their life
Speaker 2: for them and be this is how you need to live,
Speaker 2: this is how you need to do that. And it's like,
Speaker 2: at what point do you say, this is not your life.
Speaker 2: I thank you for having me, but now my life
Speaker 2: has to be lived. I want you to support and
Speaker 2: be there for me, like I should be there for you,
Speaker 2: But why do I have to be just dictated to
Speaker 2: and when I have something to say you don't want
Speaker 2: to hear it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I also think it creates some kind
Speaker 1: of trauma because I now talk to I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say who it is, but they felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: they just kind of got to the point where it's like,
Speaker 1: my mom loves me, but she just doesn't like me.
Speaker 1: And I was like, because that's what happens, though, if
Speaker 1: your parent continually shuts you down, you're just like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I know this person would take a bullet
Speaker 1: for me, but they just don't like me. And I've
Speaker 1: accepted it, so I no longer come to them with
Speaker 1: either something amazing or I don't come to them when
Speaker 1: I'm in a hard That's true because I just feel
Speaker 1: like this person that I love so much is that
Speaker 1: I know loves me but just doesn't like me. And
Speaker 1: I feel like it creates a trauma.
Speaker 2: That creates a trauma. And I had to look back
Speaker 2: when I thought of like when you think of your
Speaker 2: first your first car, your first apartment, your force wins.
Speaker 2: I looked back and I was like, my mom hated
Speaker 2: on all those see I hate that, Like I'm just
Speaker 2: giving me even more transparent. I was proposed to and
Speaker 2: the guy went to my brother to ask him. Was like, hey,
Speaker 2: don't tell her mom. You know, I'm just coming to
Speaker 2: you because I know her father's not here. And my
Speaker 2: mom had the nerve to literally tell me the night before, no,
Speaker 2: I'm no had I had no idea that sun And
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, First of all, my brother knew,
Speaker 2: so I me and my brother disobeyed and went to
Speaker 2: go tell moms. Moms held it for months and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, me and my guy are going
Speaker 2: on the trip. Oh, we're going on the trip overseas
Speaker 2: or something like that. You know he's gonna propose you right, Well,
Speaker 2: what you think?
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, did she say like, you
Speaker 1: know he's probably no.
Speaker 2: No, you know he's gonna you know he's gonna propose you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he already reached out to your brother and he already
Speaker 2: asked for your head. Oh oh oh oh, oh oh oh.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about all of that. My first apartment I remember,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna just say this too, because again we talking,
Speaker 2: we even while broke when we're talking about it. I
Speaker 2: didn't move out, so I was like third thirty really,
Speaker 2: but again it was at my place, but my mom
Speaker 2: was living with me, but I was like, it's time
Speaker 2: for us to separate and go.
Speaker 1: Wait. Hated it when you say your mom. So it
Speaker 1: was like, was it like her place you paying the
Speaker 1: bills or you're.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was thirteen, we moved. I'm on the
Speaker 2: lease at thirteen years old. I'm on the lease. You're
Speaker 2: on the lease because we move in together. But the
Speaker 2: place that we got, my friend is the one who
Speaker 2: gave it to us, like it was a it was
Speaker 2: a nice apartment complex, two bedroom, two bathroom, Like I'm
Speaker 2: on the least. The reason why I'm saying if it's
Speaker 2: my place is because if I'm seven making checks and
Speaker 2: then i'm thirteen, forteen to fifty, all the way I'm paying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're paying the rent.
Speaker 2: So it's like and I wasn't tripping, mind you. Me
Speaker 2: and my mom had a good relationship, but I started
Speaker 2: noticing the more that I started trying to be independent,
Speaker 2: the more it's like, you can't do that. Why are
Speaker 2: you doing that? You shouldn't be doing that, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's weird. Like getting a car is a big deal.
Speaker 2: You didn't like that getting.
Speaker 1: Now you got the car yourself.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay of course I got the car myself.
Speaker 1: But then I don't know if she like set it
Speaker 1: up in a way where it felt like it was
Speaker 1: coming from her, or was it just very open, like no,
Speaker 1: it never came.
Speaker 2: No, it never came from her. I got a car
Speaker 2: on my own. I went to a lot and was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I want to go get a car. So I called
Speaker 2: my friend and was like, Hey, what are they about
Speaker 2: this car? It's like literally like this this mind you.
Speaker 2: It was already a used car, but it was still
Speaker 2: on a couple thousand miles. I'm like, this is a
Speaker 2: great steal, and I'm like, I don't know how my
Speaker 2: mom's gonna take it. I started realizing, like you started
Speaker 2: realizing early. I started having a watch things that I
Speaker 2: was sharing. I'm like, Dan, that's not fair to me.
Speaker 2: You have to watch what I have to say.
Speaker 1: That kind of goes back to what I'm saying where
Speaker 1: you kind of set that tone of the trauma, that the.
Speaker 2: Tone of your trauma, so your defense mechanism is stronger
Speaker 2: than it even should be.
Speaker 1: Your survival and that goes back also why you were
Speaker 1: so independent.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm like, mantimes, it's not a good thing.
Speaker 1: Dependent. Yeah, you're independent, came from lack.
Speaker 2: Of Sometimes your independence comes from the mentality of I
Speaker 2: gotta do this because I have to to fight for
Speaker 2: myself and my own right to speak up if I'm
Speaker 2: a kid supposed to grow up and be happy and
Speaker 2: supported in that regard. But I'm being tugged like, no,
Speaker 2: you can't do that, No you shouldn't do this. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm not a no person. I'm always
Speaker 2: gonna think something is going to be the grass of
Speaker 2: the greeners other side, the glass is half full, not
Speaker 2: half empty. But someone is pulling at you. You're like, now,
Speaker 2: is it them that has a problem with what you're
Speaker 2: doing or are you just not being allowed to flow?
Speaker 1: You can see it. You can see it. Even when
Speaker 1: you tell the story, it's like, I won't think about
Speaker 1: this car. Instead of calling your mom, You're like, I'm
Speaker 1: calling the friend. And then I'm still concerned on how
Speaker 1: she gonna take the news.
Speaker 2: And I'm still concerned, and even at the point when I'm.
Speaker 1: So, when you go home with the car, how does
Speaker 1: she handle it?
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I didn't even go home with
Speaker 2: the car, the car that she was already driving was
Speaker 2: a car that again that I got through a business
Speaker 2: dal and we had from a friend. I called her
Speaker 2: and like, oh, hey, come take a look at it.
Speaker 2: I called her to the location, had her show up.
Speaker 2: My friend is already there. She's there, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: guess what this is. I'm gonna get this car. But
Speaker 2: why we already got a car. I'm like, we have
Speaker 2: one car. We need two cars.
Speaker 1: So if you're had a license, mom, let's I need
Speaker 1: my my.
Speaker 2: That's just that makes control because if you have one car,
Speaker 2: you can't go without me going, yeah, you can't go
Speaker 2: unless I tell you. So. Again, it was that control factor,
Speaker 2: so kind of like being a child actor and wanting
Speaker 2: to flourish do that but someone is not letting you
Speaker 2: do that. It creates a power struggle.
Speaker 1: Yeh.
Speaker 2: And at some point you have to realize, Okay, if
Speaker 2: I'm giving you my first car moment, the first apartment moment,
Speaker 2: Like I moved out and my mom didn't talk to
Speaker 2: me for a whole year and I paid her rent
Speaker 2: in mind didn't.
Speaker 1: Talk that whole year, entire year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot, and I'm like, I'm not supposed
Speaker 2: to be paying your.
Speaker 1: Now is there a part of you that were hoping
Speaker 1: to like, maybe at some point she'll go, man, I
Speaker 1: have a good daughter, and I'll just you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that.
Speaker 2: At some point I was like, that should kick in.
Speaker 2: But what I did was and I said, Mom, you
Speaker 2: need to go take your chances and do this career
Speaker 2: as well, because I feel that's what you want. I
Speaker 2: feel you want to go act. So I got my
Speaker 2: mom with my agency. My mom booked a stand in
Speaker 2: role for Sisily Tyson and got her vouchers like this.
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking saying the first thing I say is like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I used to do background work. I don't want my
Speaker 2: mom in seventy I can do that. I paid thirty
Speaker 2: four hundred for her to get her SAD card.
Speaker 1: So you're like, yeah, but I so, I think that
Speaker 1: was an interesting plot twist right there to say maybe
Speaker 1: you want to do this too. It sounds like the
Speaker 1: daughter is the mom and the mom is the daughter.
Speaker 2: That's what started happening, and I'm like, okay, I can
Speaker 2: take that role, but I shouldn't have to take that role.
Speaker 2: So I me giving and providing in that kind of way.
Speaker 2: I kept feeling like I was getting shut out. In
Speaker 2: so many different ways shut out by it. It's like,
Speaker 2: but you should be happy for my wins. Why is
Speaker 2: it not this support factor that I should be having
Speaker 2: from you. So let me let you do it so
Speaker 2: you don't feel like you're missing out on something. I
Speaker 2: go do that during COVID, and then it's still like
Speaker 2: I'm not getting phone calls, you're not talking to me,
Speaker 2: you're still not trying to go to therapy. It got
Speaker 2: to the point where I was like, well, I'm not
Speaker 2: paying a phone bill no more. You're gonna have yours,
Speaker 2: gonna have mine. Period. If you're not calling texting me,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna be talking unless you call me directly
Speaker 2: on my phone line that I paid for, You're gonna
Speaker 2: pay for your own. So I just had to start
Speaker 2: pulling away from certain things.
Speaker 1: How did.
Speaker 2: Anger Yeah, of course again, if someone's.
Speaker 1: At this point it's now it's entitlement, I would imagine.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's entitlement, but also like, you're supposed
Speaker 2: to take care of me, You're supposed to do this,
Speaker 2: you're supposed to do that. I'm like, I didn't know
Speaker 2: that was the role of your children is to just
Speaker 2: take care of their parent, not if their parent is
Speaker 2: not sick, not their parent is not unable to do stuff.
Speaker 1: Now is she working at all during any of this?
Speaker 2: My mom is like she did a job in fashion,
Speaker 2: which I remember my brother got her. She worked at
Speaker 2: a fashion designers. But we were Me and my brother
Speaker 2: were always providing for my mother. She did little things
Speaker 2: here and there, but it was never anything full time.
Speaker 1: Because when your brother was you said, like right after
Speaker 1: eighteen he started going.
Speaker 2: My brother was gone out of college. But my brother
Speaker 2: did well. He was in real estate. He was I mean,
Speaker 2: that's when real estate was kicking all before the crash.
Speaker 2: He had money. He'd be like, y'all run his five
Speaker 2: six hundred dollars, do it. Because we were under rent control.
Speaker 2: This was twenty five years ago. Rent was cheaper then. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we were always in control of that. But we
Speaker 2: both always were trying to find ways for my mom
Speaker 2: to Yeah, Mom, you can't leatch you all on to
Speaker 2: my brother. No more, you can't let youall to me.
Speaker 2: Let's get your own independent. So my mom, that's her
Speaker 2: unhealing self in her situation where she doesn't want to
Speaker 2: let go of her daught her because she's afraid of
Speaker 2: what that looks like for her and I.
Speaker 1: Had and then me and her identity could be wrapped
Speaker 1: up in it two.
Speaker 2: Right, one thousand percent. Everything was Porsch, Porsch Porsche. And
Speaker 2: I realized, my mom doesn't mean any harm, but she
Speaker 2: has to understand that, Mom, you have to have your
Speaker 2: own identity. Yeah. You need to walk in the room
Speaker 2: and say I'm this person, yeah, not Porsha's mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's where I started having to realize we do
Speaker 2: need our own identities, because I'm like, I need to
Speaker 2: have you realize this fairly early.
Speaker 1: Too early, I think another thing that must have been
Speaker 1: tough to accept this. And I learned this very late
Speaker 1: in life. I would say, like thirty six, around that
Speaker 1: age where I was like, there's there's a I like
Speaker 1: to put people on and I no longer want to
Speaker 1: change people. I put them in their proper categories. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you are, I have friends that are
Speaker 1: like ride or Die, that are like happy for me
Speaker 1: when I'm up, kill anybody when I'm down. We'll be
Speaker 1: sitting Girl will fly in, watch Pretty Women Get the
Speaker 1: Rocky Road, and We're gonna sit and watch these movies
Speaker 1: while we go through this breakup. And then when you win,
Speaker 1: they over the moon like they want the lottery. But
Speaker 1: then you have another You got another side, which is
Speaker 1: I'm down for you when you're down, but I'm not
Speaker 1: excited when you're up. And that one, I think is
Speaker 1: the hardest one to understand, because you know this person
Speaker 1: is down for you and they would kill for you,
Speaker 1: but they just not happy when you're up. And that's
Speaker 1: one of those things where you're kind of put into
Speaker 1: the position of dimming your light to make someone else.
Speaker 2: Come, to make someone else comfortable. And I love what
Speaker 2: you said about putting people in categories and letting people
Speaker 2: be who they are. I think the healing for me
Speaker 2: happened even not even a couple of years ago, when
Speaker 2: I realized my mother who is who she is, my
Speaker 2: brother is who he is, I am who I am.
Speaker 2: Just because you come from your parents doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: you are supposed to spend the rest of your lives
Speaker 2: under them and being best friends. And I think that
Speaker 2: is what I had to realize, is that my mom
Speaker 2: is who she's gonna be. My mom has been this
Speaker 2: way since for seventy five years. Yeah, I can't change her.
Speaker 2: I can love her from a distance. But I can
Speaker 2: also choose my piece and knowing what I need out
Speaker 2: of this relationship is you to be mother, not the
Speaker 2: lady who wants to come to the red carpets. Not
Speaker 2: the lady that wants to come and oh look at me,
Speaker 2: Like I got tired of that because I would go
Speaker 2: places and I would hear the conversations not about my daughter.
Speaker 2: My daughter's doing this, but guess what I used to
Speaker 2: be doing this and this is what I used to do.
Speaker 2: And guess what. You can catch me on this background
Speaker 2: show doing that and I'm like, but if you're here
Speaker 2: for me, that should be your focus and you're happy
Speaker 2: doing that for me. If I'm coming into your space,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and make the moment about well, yeah,
Speaker 2: her show cool, but see but guess what, but guess
Speaker 2: what this is? And then you know you got those
Speaker 2: kind of friends, like you said, that are happy for you,
Speaker 2: but that are also get away competing with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's one of the most painful things
Speaker 1: you can that you could actually learn because for a
Speaker 1: multitude of reasons. Yeah, but past that, I think the
Speaker 1: difficulty with being someone's child and I only know this
Speaker 1: I have a daughter I don't I have a daughter.
Speaker 1: I have a daughter. It's so new to me. It's
Speaker 1: weird because I feel me and my husband both try
Speaker 1: to do whatever what happened to us. We want to
Speaker 1: do everything in our power to not do it to her.
Speaker 1: And what I noticed with myself and I think with
Speaker 1: other people, is like you have this like unreal amount
Speaker 1: of I just want to know my parent loves me, right,
Speaker 1: And I think when you're facing those positions of you know,
Speaker 1: are they envious, is their jealousy or are they happy
Speaker 1: for me? Or are they not? Like I know they
Speaker 1: love me clearly, they got me to where I'm at,
Speaker 1: they fall for me. That that question, how do you
Speaker 1: navigate or do you ever navigate that question of like
Speaker 1: is this real love? Especially when they can go a
Speaker 1: long time without calling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody loves different. For one, let's just say,
Speaker 2: like you said, you and your husband are trying not
Speaker 2: to do maybe what your parents did to you because
Speaker 2: you want a different whether it's a different life, a
Speaker 2: different outlook. You know, you go through things and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I want to prevent somebody else from doing it. And
Speaker 2: also when people do that, they can stop their kids
Speaker 2: from really living or experiencing certain things. So my mom
Speaker 2: is that person like, wait, no, no, don't do that,
Speaker 2: because don't do that, And it's like, but I need
Speaker 2: to experience this. If I'm trying to be let's be real,
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry is a billionaire. If I want to be rich,
Speaker 2: if I want to be in rooms where I'm walking
Speaker 2: in and getting respected, I'm gonna talk to Tyler. I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna go to my mom. No, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: go here to the homegirl. And if you have to
Speaker 2: be around the people that you're trying to be, like,
Speaker 2: if you want to do better, you have to put
Speaker 2: yourself around people that are gonna help you get to
Speaker 2: that level. So I think she started thinking that something
Speaker 2: was disrespectful when I started saying, you can't be my
Speaker 2: plus one today because I'm gonna have my publicis coming
Speaker 2: because I need that next job. My agent's gonna come
Speaker 2: because they can talk to the producer and talk about
Speaker 2: giving me my next job.
Speaker 1: And yeah, if you went to school and got the
Speaker 1: training or whatever, you started mastered, but.
Speaker 2: Don't take it personally. I'm taking somebody else like you
Speaker 2: think it's a slight to you, Like I don't like
Speaker 2: you like it has nothing to do with not liking you.
Speaker 2: I need that next gig because everybody knows actors can
Speaker 2: sit here all day long and talk, oh, look at
Speaker 2: the flash yourself offline, But everybody a lot of times
Speaker 2: is check to check in this business. When it comes
Speaker 2: to that one job that hits, it may be six
Speaker 2: months and you have nothing. So you got to sustain
Speaker 2: yourself in between that. So if I'm gonna be at premiere,
Speaker 2: if I'm at a red carpet, I need to be
Speaker 2: with somebody that can walk up to a producer and
Speaker 2: be like, hey, this is my talent Portia Coleman. You
Speaker 2: can see her on this and this and that. Let's talk.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about you getting her in your next project. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I need that. Or just my mom coming to hang
Speaker 2: out and just smile at people and there's no disrespect
Speaker 2: to her. I know what she likes, and I realized
Speaker 2: that's what she's happy doing. But I realized that it
Speaker 2: was costing me financially by just bringing her as a
Speaker 2: guest to hang out versus somebody that could read.
Speaker 1: You need to maximize this.
Speaker 2: You got to maximize the time because this window can
Speaker 2: be so fast and so quick. So I think it
Speaker 2: was a.
Speaker 1: Good business move, good business, and it's not to take personally.
Speaker 1: Nothing but speaking of good business moves, hello, let's go
Speaker 1: closer to some of the bigger, bigger, big biggest. Come
Speaker 1: on now, biggest move. Let's get close to your newest
Speaker 1: BT plus with Tyler Perry. I want to know how
Speaker 1: wind where? How did it all come about. I've had
Speaker 1: a couple people on the show that have worked with
Speaker 1: Tyler ive heard nothing but rave reviews and surprising paychecks
Speaker 1: that lives. Hello, it's not on the thing. He likes
Speaker 1: to just surprise people with paychecks at yeah point, I
Speaker 1: know that story you're talking about too.
Speaker 2: You do which one the one story where he surprised
Speaker 2: people with bonuses? Oh? He was s well, I know
Speaker 2: a couple of stories.
Speaker 1: Well, I know we haven't released this one. But the guy,
Speaker 1: this particular actor had said, well, I guess by the
Speaker 1: time your episode, but he had said that, you know,
Speaker 1: he went in at a five thousand dollars pay rate.
Speaker 2: Wow, and it.
Speaker 1: Was like the lowest he had ever made whatever mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, damn, he's gonna in my head,
Speaker 1: I was like, he's going to edit this out. He's
Speaker 1: definitely going to edit it out, and he didn't you
Speaker 1: know why, because his surprise was that Tyler Perry ended
Speaker 1: up giving him six figures at the end.
Speaker 2: Come on, and I was like, dang, listen, I think
Speaker 2: for sure that shows what dedication looks like. Because I
Speaker 2: love my career so much. I've only been singing, acting,
Speaker 2: dancing since the day I was born and came out.
Speaker 2: I would do this for free because I love it.
Speaker 2: I love that I would do it for free. So
Speaker 2: to know that I can look and cut a check
Speaker 2: and be like what officer all I could do for free?
Speaker 2: To work like ten hustles is a beautiful thing. And
Speaker 2: I can honestly say I've never had a nine to five.
Speaker 2: I've never clocked in a job. I've never done that.
Speaker 2: I sing, I act, I dance, I host, I do voiceovers,
Speaker 2: video going and I've been working a whole life. And
Speaker 2: that's again, I'm not gonna say that's a trauma response.
Speaker 2: That's just me. I learned that I love to do
Speaker 2: what I do. I don't drink, I don't smoke. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm out here. Yeah, So I love what I do.
Speaker 2: But when you cross pass with someone like a Tyler Perry.
Speaker 2: If I can look at your story from sleeping in
Speaker 2: your car to get in your play, to getting your
Speaker 2: play financed, to get in your play on tour, to
Speaker 2: where now you have a network who gives you astronomical
Speaker 2: amounts to put our people in position to be starring
Speaker 2: on shows when twenty years ago there was not really
Speaker 2: all black lead shows. You had the Cosby's, then you
Speaker 2: started remember when UPN popped up? Do y'all really remember UPN?
Speaker 2: That's when The Parkers was on, but you got one
Speaker 2: on one the Parkers school Boys in Outer Space, Moesha,
Speaker 2: We at one point did not have all black lead
Speaker 2: shows by other period. Right now is literally doing something incredible,
Speaker 2: Like he said to the BT was we're all sitting
Speaker 2: there watching he said, I have made more millionaires black
Speaker 2: millionaires on TV than anybody. Because he's right. If you're
Speaker 2: gonna sit there and take a five thousand dollar check
Speaker 2: knowing that you've gotten paid more, but you're willing to
Speaker 2: come to work and bust your ass, Tyler is gonna
Speaker 2: bless you and do that. Because I remember just thinking
Speaker 2: like I've never auditioned for Tyler, I'd never been in
Speaker 2: front of him. I was like, dang, if I get
Speaker 2: that opportunity, I just hope it's it. The first time
Speaker 2: I was in front of Tyler Perry, I got it.
Speaker 1: Tell me about it, tell me how you got this.
Speaker 1: It's I'm me a whole backstory.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I mean, it's fast. If anybody knows about
Speaker 2: self tapes twenty twenty COVID, everything shuts down, so nobody's
Speaker 2: really in rooms anymore. So they say, hey, here's the audition,
Speaker 2: here's a size, put yourself on tape, find a reader.
Speaker 2: Mind you got to find a reader, set your camera up,
Speaker 2: set your lighting up, and do all of this stuff
Speaker 2: by yourself in your house. Okay, So mind you. It
Speaker 2: gets overwhelming a lot of times because you got to
Speaker 2: find people that's available to do that when you got
Speaker 2: an audition in twenty four hours self taped. Remember Clearsday,
Speaker 2: I got to shout my girl out. I love her
Speaker 2: to death. Doctor Schammel Bell very accomplished. She helped start
Speaker 2: the Black Lives Matter movement. She used to be a
Speaker 2: she said doctor. She does everything. But she was out
Speaker 2: and about in LA. I said, girl, you got a
Speaker 2: second can you come cel tape for me? And she
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, sure, whatever you need. I got the
Speaker 2: audition for Tiffany. So if you guys watching the show,
Speaker 2: the girl Tiffany has the big curly the real name
Speaker 2: is our girl Brianna, and I auditioned for that. I
Speaker 2: put it on tape. Forty eight hours later, my agent
Speaker 2: called and was like, hey, you got a call back
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh great. They say they're gonna
Speaker 2: send us the details and I'm like, oh, mind you.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking Tyler's in Atlanta because I sell tape.
Speaker 1: And Tyler Perry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it clearly said. The reason why I knew
Speaker 2: is because it clearly came out as Divorced Sisters. Mind you,
Speaker 2: I'm like, bt. Plus, I watched Sisters. They're nine seasons
Speaker 2: in Divorce Sisters. I'm like, not a new franchise. Oh
Speaker 2: So I told my agent, push for this. I said,
Speaker 2: I know the casting director shout out to Kim Coleman,
Speaker 2: love you too. I called her like cousins. We have
Speaker 2: the same last name. I said, please push for this
Speaker 2: because I think I'd be great for this and this
Speaker 2: is the role of Tiffany. Go in. Send the cell tape.
Speaker 2: Two days later, Tyler Perry's going to be at the
Speaker 2: audition nine in the morning off a sunset boulevard. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm waking up at six in the morning. This this
Speaker 2: is doing no, this was this was at the top
Speaker 2: of the year. Right now we're only in July. We've
Speaker 2: shot this show in March.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, you send in yourself.
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about during COVID is when they don't
Speaker 2: go an audition way. So that's why when you said
Speaker 2: the process that the process wasn't seeing Tyler first. It
Speaker 2: was me putting my cameras, my lightnings up, looking at
Speaker 2: the scene and reading with my friend off camera and
Speaker 2: just sending in and hoping I get a call. Forty
Speaker 2: eight hours later, I got that call. H Tyler Perry's
Speaker 2: going to be at the space off a sunset in person,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, so mind job. I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 2: already got my size memorized what to expect. I'm like,
Speaker 2: let's go walk in the room. There's like one hundred
Speaker 2: people in the waiting room.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you feel in those moments?
Speaker 2: And that's what actors again, you know, you walk in
Speaker 2: the room and you're like, oh, back to these days
Speaker 2: when you're seeing every girl in the room, I'm seeing guys.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know who's audition for this part,
Speaker 2: but you have to tune it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the girl. You guys ever become buddies in
Speaker 1: those scenarios.
Speaker 2: Oh No. When I walked in, I literally saw four
Speaker 2: girls I knew. Okay, I knew him. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is the girl. I played a sister with her
Speaker 2: on a movie. I knew my homegirl from Bee Valley.
Speaker 2: I knew people in the room, but at that point, honestly,
Speaker 2: just with me, it's like, you're not friends in that moment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I can walk up to you, but ha's your mom?
Speaker 2: How's all this? We got a job to do. So
Speaker 2: the first thing I do is I went to sign
Speaker 2: in make sure they knew I was there. I went
Speaker 2: out to the hallway and I literally was in the
Speaker 2: elevator because I'm like the chatter sometimes people like you
Speaker 2: talk in all the rooms. I need to be trying
Speaker 2: to focus. I'm trying to be focused. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: got an audition to be with Tyler Perry in front
Speaker 2: of a series regular. I need to be focused. So
Speaker 2: I remember being a hallway. It was like nine o'clock,
Speaker 2: nine thirty. They said, oh, portion, you're on deck, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'm on deck.
Speaker 1: Wait before you get into there. When you say focused, now,
Speaker 1: is that when you do? I mean I see a
Speaker 1: lot of actors do this or like the bigger ones
Speaker 1: than be like I was in that whole role during
Speaker 1: the whole taping.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no, that's one by the time
Speaker 2: you get it. But I'm talking about the time when
Speaker 2: you're in the audition room. You gotta book it before
Speaker 2: you can get to set. I'm not thinking about working
Speaker 2: on set. I'm thinking Tyler Perrent.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you're doing that focus, are you in
Speaker 1: yeahfter or are you just memorizing my line?
Speaker 2: My mind? What I do and this is a hack
Speaker 2: for me, I put my ear pods in, okay, and
Speaker 2: I play music because again, if someone's in the hallway
Speaker 2: talking and right now, if I'm trying to study, to
Speaker 2: go knock out this scene where I got to mind
Speaker 2: you the scene is eight pages. Eight page is long?
Speaker 2: You got to memorize in front of Tyler Perry. I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear old girl talking about Oh my god,
Speaker 2: girl so good to see you. Guess, well, how's your
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that air pods are in.
Speaker 2: I'm down the hallway by the elevator, so I don't
Speaker 2: got to hear that. That's my process. So by the
Speaker 2: time they said you're on deck, I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 2: gotta come close, gotta come close. Take out the ear pods,
Speaker 2: put it in, put my purse to aside, be like, okay,
Speaker 2: go on in the room. Go on in the room.
Speaker 2: I see like five people in their cameras. Tyler's right there.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about you. He's right at the head of
Speaker 2: the table. His head is down. He's not even looking
Speaker 2: at me though, and I'm like, okay, I walk in.
Speaker 2: His head is down, he looks up. He says, okay,
Speaker 2: you ready, all right, let's go. That was it, and
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool, mind you no conversation. What's
Speaker 2: your name? I'm like, okay, cool. He wanted to go
Speaker 2: right into it. We go write into it. Next thing
Speaker 2: you know, I started delivering the scene. Okay, thirty second
Speaker 2: ten he does this like stop and I'm like, oh shit, girl,
Speaker 2: exactly what I said. Oh shit. He was like, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you. He said that was really good, by the way,
Speaker 2: but I need to read for the role in Naomi.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh okay. He was like yeah, so
Speaker 2: they'll give you the sides outside and just come back
Speaker 2: in the room once you've taken a look at it.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, sure, wait a minute, so you
Speaker 1: have like less than a couple of minutes to what I.
Speaker 2: Was like, Yes, at that point, it's cold reading because
Speaker 2: mind you, I already had the other scene for over
Speaker 2: a week. I had a chance to look at it.
Speaker 2: I knew it. They handed me some new scenes, a
Speaker 2: whole new character, and I'm like, what's her backstory? Wait?
Speaker 2: New scenes, so I'm a whole different person.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying like, you couldn't use the scenes, that.
Speaker 2: Know, because the scene that I auditioned for is Tiffany.
Speaker 2: Naomi was not in Jesus, I'm looking at this and
Speaker 2: this is one acting Yet when your bag kicks in,
Speaker 2: when I'm my training since seven, eight, nine, ten kicks in,
Speaker 2: you gotta look at a scene and deliver it like
Speaker 2: you are this person in this scenario right in that moment.
Speaker 2: So first thing they come out and say, as I said,
Speaker 2: who's Naomi? Who is she? Well, she's got thirty seven
Speaker 2: million dollars, she just got divorced from her ex husband.
Speaker 2: She hates him, and now she's mad that her her
Speaker 2: lawyer homegirl, is not helping her sue him. That's all
Speaker 2: he said to me. And I was like, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So the first scene that you see that I walk
Speaker 2: in on scene one is a scene that I auditioned
Speaker 2: that where I'm standing by the car, like, what's up?
Speaker 2: Did you look at this lawsuit? What's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And I remember after all of that fifteen twenty minutes
Speaker 2: walking back in the room and he said the same thing. Okay,
Speaker 2: you ready, Like it was no conversation, mind you. I
Speaker 2: have a great memory. So what I usually do is
Speaker 2: when I looked at it, I said, I'll be damn
Speaker 2: if I'm being in front of Tyler Perry glued to
Speaker 2: the sides. Hell no, ma'am. I said, I'm gonna look
Speaker 2: at it. I'm gonna know some calling responses, but he
Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of ad lib and just me
Speaker 2: feeling this carriage, okay, had to still respect that game.
Speaker 2: Rolled it up, and he was right to the side
Speaker 2: of me soon as it started. She's supposed to be
Speaker 2: hot that her lawyer's out there. So I said, what's up.
Speaker 2: You talk to your lawyer, Geneva, what is going on?
Speaker 2: Tell me? No, hi the baby. She's like, the baby's
Speaker 2: right here. I'm like, I don't care, Hey, baby, what's
Speaker 2: up with my lawsuit? Like, and I'm seeing Tyler and
Speaker 2: other people in the room like locked in, but I'm
Speaker 2: tuning it out because I'm not looking at none of
Speaker 2: the side. I'm just delivering it. After it was over,
Speaker 2: Tyler was like that was amazing. He's like, yeah, wait
Speaker 2: in the lobby said don't go anywhere. And I was
Speaker 2: like okay, And I was like and I just went
Speaker 2: for it. And I was like, holy yeah, Like that
Speaker 2: was yeah.
Speaker 1: And what are you thinking when he's like waiting the lobby?
Speaker 1: I want to know what is your emotions?
Speaker 2: Like, here's the thing. The reason why I'm okay with
Speaker 2: that is because by this point, it went from a
Speaker 2: hundred people in the lobby to twenty five. Okay, so
Speaker 2: the lobby was getting empty do so I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he didn't ask me to come back in, so he's
Speaker 2: not mixing and matching. I'm still waiting ten people in
Speaker 2: the lobby and I'm like, Okay, that girl was auditioning
Speaker 2: for this part, but she's not here for Naomi. Who's
Speaker 2: she here for? Next thing? I know? It's like ten
Speaker 2: of us, rob Riley, myself, Breonna Price, Me, DeVaughn, and Kadeen.
Speaker 2: He's like, everybody, come.
Speaker 1: In, sorry for Kurt.
Speaker 2: No, you're good, You're good. We walk in the room
Speaker 2: and he's like, this looks great. He said, this is
Speaker 2: the cast right here. This looks amazing. He said, all right, guys,
Speaker 2: well congratulations and get ready to work your ass off.
Speaker 2: We'll be doing about two three weeks in Atlanta, and
Speaker 2: get ready. Our agents and Lawy's will be in contact.
Speaker 2: And I was like, mind you. We was from nine
Speaker 2: am to like three hours at this point, I'm like,
Speaker 2: holy holy what And just like that.
Speaker 1: Were y'all all like high five and each other hugging.
Speaker 2: Of course because he because here's the thing and this
Speaker 2: is what Tyler said. He was like, y'all can relax
Speaker 2: now you're not auditioning no more. And we were all like,
Speaker 2: oh thank you God. We were all like standing there
Speaker 2: in a lineup, like what do we do like and
Speaker 2: Tyler was like, y'all can relax, Like y'all good, And
Speaker 2: I was like, mister Perry, You're like it was like
Speaker 2: a moment where we were all like we made the cut.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And it was in person. So I always had oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, like the story I was never.
Speaker 1: Had you told anyone else's story?
Speaker 2: No good, because like telling these stories is like it
Speaker 2: helps actors understand or people that are not even actors
Speaker 2: to know the processes that we go through. And why
Speaker 2: I talked about, let's say, the traumas and stuff that
Speaker 2: happened before, because yeah, I was dealing with all kinds
Speaker 2: of stuff, but when you walk in that audition room
Speaker 2: or when you're walking in to do your job, all
Speaker 2: that has to go out the door in the window
Speaker 2: that morning stuff was going on. I was like, do
Speaker 2: I feel okay? Like you're nervous, you're like thinking about
Speaker 2: your personal life, but then you're also thinking about what
Speaker 2: I got to go do. If I'm over here worried
Speaker 2: about what's going on with my personal life, I got
Speaker 2: to make sure my next job is landed. Which is
Speaker 2: why I said, sometimes you have to know where to
Speaker 2: place people, whether it's also your family, because your family
Speaker 2: could be just as toxic as people that aren't you
Speaker 2: got to place that in a box and still be
Speaker 2: able to perform and do your job. Because that's what
Speaker 2: mattered when I walked in that room. I booked a
Speaker 2: job and I literally cried. Once I got into the car,
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And who is the first person you called?
Speaker 2: Again? It wasn't. I didn't even talk to my family.
Speaker 2: The first person I called was my aunt And the
Speaker 2: second person I called was my friend who helped me
Speaker 2: do the cel tape. Wow, and I called. And that's
Speaker 2: the thing. It's like, your friends can become your family.
Speaker 2: And I have a great family. I have a huge family. Like,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I'm really close to it to
Speaker 2: several members of my family. It's just at this time
Speaker 2: it's just my mother and my brother. I'm not because
Speaker 2: I needed the support in a different way, and the
Speaker 2: way they wanted to have me support them, it wasn't
Speaker 2: going to happen.
Speaker 1: Well that and in that moment, you need all positive energy.
Speaker 1: And if you know your people and you put them
Speaker 1: in their proper place, you know who to call.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what I'm saying, like, if I
Speaker 2: know I need to get hyped, if I'm going to
Speaker 2: the gym, I'm putting all my ying yang, I'm putting
Speaker 2: on some CARDI I know the vibe I want to
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, anybody know me knows
Speaker 2: I will be some checking like assault, shaker, whistle while
Speaker 2: and a heartbeat because their and they get you. They
Speaker 2: get you right. But if I know I'm trying to
Speaker 2: wind down on the night where I had a long day, Baby,
Speaker 2: I need someone, need a baker. Okay, I need some
Speaker 2: card up in the rapture, I need some Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I love her like she's one of my favorite artists ever.
Speaker 2: So I have moments and vibes that I go through.
Speaker 2: But you know where people you want to talk to,
Speaker 2: You know when a moment happens, like who do I
Speaker 2: want to call? Who do I want to be there
Speaker 2: for me? So I'm so glad that, like I said,
Speaker 2: I have amazing support systems, and I keep a small circle,
Speaker 2: and I do hope at some point my mom and
Speaker 2: my brother and all of us can talk. But I
Speaker 2: knew that for me to do the job that I
Speaker 2: needed to do, and this is even prior to this one,
Speaker 2: I had to create the space in the distance. If
Speaker 2: I told you what I need. If it just takes
Speaker 2: going to a therapy session that's really talking out what happens,
Speaker 2: and you guys are refusing to do that, that's fine.
Speaker 2: I can't force you, but I can also remove my
Speaker 2: presence and know that my piece has to be maintained
Speaker 2: because I need to be hurt. And being the younger
Speaker 2: the two, I was never getting hurt.
Speaker 1: Now are you in a place? And this is something
Speaker 1: I've been kind of self discovering a little bit too.
Speaker 1: I like everyone in my circle to feel safe to
Speaker 1: advocate for themselves. Oh, I love that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like if we disagree, you should still feel
Speaker 1: comfortable to advocate for yourself, Like you shouldn't feel like
Speaker 1: i'mly gonna shut it down or yeah, I'm gonna shut
Speaker 1: it down, like we're gonna disagree. But and I feel
Speaker 1: like you're at that place of like I'm gonna continue
Speaker 1: to advocate for myself.
Speaker 2: Right without question. Yeah, you have to self advocate for
Speaker 2: someone to respect you. And that's the difference I had
Speaker 2: to learn, Like, of course, if my mom is thirty five,
Speaker 2: my brother's fifty six, and here I am eighteen years
Speaker 2: younger than them. I was already the little young one
Speaker 2: of the bunch. Yeah, young siblings never get respect.
Speaker 1: Let's be real, they I wrong. I know my little
Speaker 1: brother gets you know what I'm saying. He started advocating
Speaker 1: firm you have to and let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: I shout out to a little bit of work. It
Speaker 1: worked because we definitely know, like when he talks, we
Speaker 1: have to listen.
Speaker 2: No don'ing's wrong is gonna let You're gonna let older
Speaker 2: siblings have that inside. But like I'm a older sibling,
Speaker 2: like you whatever when I tell you, my brother always
Speaker 2: told me that you ain't been through shit, And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: but I'm trying to tell you from my perspective what.
Speaker 1: I feel and what does he also advocate for your
Speaker 1: mom to like you know, I understand her kind of
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: It was a standpoint of like them right in the
Speaker 2: fence of like you know again, I was always the
Speaker 2: middle person. My mom is like oil and my my
Speaker 2: brother's like the water, and then when you put them together,
Speaker 2: just don't always mix it. I was always that middle
Speaker 2: person that's creating the peace between their disagreements. So the
Speaker 2: moment I started had my own voice and saying this
Speaker 2: is how I feel that. It's like, but you're not
Speaker 2: on my side. I t I hated hearing if I
Speaker 2: would disagree about something. She said, No, you're supposed to
Speaker 2: stay with me. I'm your mother. Yeah, but that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that I have to agree with you. That old
Speaker 2: school mindset, and I I've done so much healing on
Speaker 2: it and studying of what it is. People are fixing
Speaker 2: their own ways a lot of times, so where they
Speaker 2: can't break that the idea ideology of what they feel.
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to debate her on what she feels.
Speaker 2: But I'm also not going to get downplayed and like,
Speaker 2: f you you don't know what you're talking about yet,
Speaker 2: But you call me for everything. You call me to
Speaker 2: take care of you. You call me because you know
Speaker 2: I know everything about the computers, I know everything about technology.
Speaker 2: But you need my help all the time. So don't
Speaker 2: act like you need my help but you don't want
Speaker 2: to listen to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now with the Bore sisters, Yes, you guys all
Speaker 1: have a very nice chemistry going. Yes, which you don't
Speaker 1: you know, you don't see that a lot in the industry.
Speaker 1: It looks like it definitely carries off camera.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's thousand percent, we ally was out there. Like
Speaker 2: I said, three weeks. The first week, we all just bombed.
Speaker 2: We all got together, We went to bars, we went
Speaker 2: to eat, we hung out. And I already knew LaToya
Speaker 2: because we did a BT plus movie we played best friends.
Speaker 2: LaToya had already knew several of the girls, like Geneva
Speaker 2: and Latoy already knew each other, Kadeen and Breonna, like
Speaker 2: everybody had kind of somehow knew each other in a way.
Speaker 2: So it was perfect. And when we locked in, if
Speaker 2: we're looking at the story saying we got to be
Speaker 2: friends for twenty years, we really got to come like
Speaker 2: and had little things. So even as a scene in
Speaker 2: like episode two, I think that I love with me
Speaker 2: and Brianna in the kitchen, and I'm telling it like
Speaker 2: it is, like, girl, you need to love again. When's
Speaker 2: the last time you let a nigga to be with you?
Speaker 2: Excuse me, but when's the last time you've been with
Speaker 2: a man in a kind of way? Because you'll be
Speaker 2: here judging me because I'm stuck on my ex husband.
Speaker 2: But you ain't even had a chance to be willing
Speaker 2: to go date somebody because your trauma and she has
Speaker 2: a moment where she's like, you're right, I haven't been
Speaker 2: able to let go. And in that moment me and her,
Speaker 2: I was like, we need to have a thing. Are
Speaker 2: we gonna do this? We're gonna pump? What is gonna
Speaker 2: be our little thing? So every one of us have
Speaker 2: a thing that we ended up doing on camera organically
Speaker 2: that we thought about to be like how wore me
Speaker 2: and you interact what we do? Me and her are
Speaker 2: both dancers, so we were always gonna do like some
Speaker 2: dance stuff like that's our connection. So the connection that
Speaker 2: you see on camera is very real. The support is there.
Speaker 2: We have a group chat. It's called Divorced and we
Speaker 2: said that like people ask, so we chat each other.
Speaker 2: We're always like saying, girl, that scene you did was
Speaker 2: so powerful.
Speaker 1: Now have you guys ever rallied against Tyler?
Speaker 2: Hilarious?
Speaker 1: Never never guess, never talked back nothing, no, no.
Speaker 2: Like I no, because honestly, Tyler is like and you
Speaker 2: never know is when you have somebody like Tyler, you
Speaker 2: write direct produce, you thinking you gotta be every line
Speaker 2: must be perfect. When I tell you Tyler, lets you go, Tyler,
Speaker 2: let you go. Like there's one time I remember one
Speaker 2: word and I'll say this. Okay, we're just pointing. I
Speaker 2: was like, ooh, did I tear it? I said, like,
Speaker 2: because this character cusses a lot, she will say and
Speaker 2: this is this is literally in the script, so it's
Speaker 2: like she is that expressive type of person. Will she'll
Speaker 2: say certain words, and I remember I put God in
Speaker 2: front of one of the words, so let's just say
Speaker 2: this God damn. I didn't know that that was going
Speaker 2: to be a problem because I'm like goddamn and that
Speaker 2: kind of way. He's like, no, we don't come byd
Speaker 2: God in a curse word. No. I was like, sorry,
Speaker 2: mister Perry, Okay, we'll go back and do that one
Speaker 2: line again. And that's I'm like, okay, cool. Because Tyler
Speaker 2: is a god fearing man, I'm a godfair a woman.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, my bad, I'm in the scene
Speaker 2: so much. I'm over saying yeah there. He's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: So we've never banned against someone that knows what he's doing. Again,
Speaker 2: if you look at.
Speaker 1: All, then nothing set him up said it up.
Speaker 2: I would listen. Tyler took us to his house. Baby.
Speaker 2: When I tell you, first of all, we were all
Speaker 2: having too much pun over there. It's a brunch. How
Speaker 2: about just getting to the house, sweetie? When I said, I.
Speaker 1: Would have done it in front of him though, you know,
Speaker 1: Justler's so fun.
Speaker 2: Tyler's a guy who'd be like, I want to hurt him.
Speaker 2: Get done so I can go drink later. Like Tyler's
Speaker 2: mad cool. But when I tell you when we all
Speaker 2: got the invite, I'm talking about the Sunday before we
Speaker 2: started working on a Monday, Tyler's like, so you're going
Speaker 2: to be getting a call about coming to my house
Speaker 2: for brunch. And we were like, you're kidding. Right When
Speaker 2: I tell you, they sent personal cars to come pick
Speaker 2: us up. The ride from his gate to get to
Speaker 2: his house was like four miles.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 2: How big was the house?
Speaker 1: Was that dcastle?
Speaker 2: Okay? This is the best O times ten. The best
Speaker 2: way I could say it is there's a scene in
Speaker 2: one of my favorite movies, john Wick, one of the
Speaker 2: last John Wick movies, when they have this big fight
Speaker 2: on the staircase. When they're fighting. The house that you
Speaker 2: see in john Wick literally looks like the house that
Speaker 2: we were at with Tyler. It's it's not even it's
Speaker 2: it looks like a stage It's like, what is this
Speaker 2: freak out helicopter plane?
Speaker 1: It's helicopter plane and plane.
Speaker 2: He has a plane?
Speaker 1: Yo, just shout up. I'm gonna tell you this. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna speak this into existence. Eating while broke will do
Speaker 1: a Tyler Perry MTV Cribs version of eating while broo.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be fun to go into his mansion with
Speaker 1: his planes.
Speaker 2: And somebody see it. I'm just saying he has a plane.
Speaker 2: To know that you can chart a plane just to
Speaker 2: go eat with your friends, because I know other friends
Speaker 2: that really don't.
Speaker 1: See a plane like a helicopter plane or like a treaty,
Speaker 1: like a plane that's sitting.
Speaker 2: United Airlines Southwest. That's a plane.
Speaker 1: Get the freak out? Did you at least did you
Speaker 1: at least say hey, can I go check it out?
Speaker 2: God? No, that's that's doing too much, you know, eating
Speaker 2: while broke. I would have been like, let me get
Speaker 2: you a plane ride to first day before filming? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: to get fired before first day. I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: be too personal like that, but the fact that he
Speaker 2: has a plane in his house again, I'm thinking of
Speaker 2: what was he eating while he was broke? Because he
Speaker 2: was sleeping in his car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went before he.
Speaker 2: Even had a chance to have these plays. And again
Speaker 2: an opportunity where he's giving us money to come to set,
Speaker 2: which his studio is like nothing you've ever seen either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard it.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's incredible. Just so, just so you know,
Speaker 2: he has an exit off the freeway. Why are you
Speaker 2: driving in Atlanta, it says Tyler Perry Studios. That's the
Speaker 2: exit you get off.
Speaker 1: As like, so, when you're working with him, do you
Speaker 1: feel extremely motivated that the sky's the limit now after
Speaker 1: experiencing all.
Speaker 2: That, absolutely, so you okay, And just so people know,
Speaker 2: we shot sixteen episodes in eight days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard, I heard a shoot schedule.
Speaker 2: I heard.
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot. Let me tell you something. People
Speaker 1: I've been saying, like they shoot in a week or
Speaker 1: two weeks or under two weeks.
Speaker 2: That's real. It was supposed to be ten days and
Speaker 2: we ended up losing a day because of one location issue,
Speaker 2: and then the other day we finished the day early.
Speaker 2: We shot eight days, sixteen whole episodes. Imagine how many
Speaker 2: paid a day you had to do.
Speaker 1: And you guys got paid a lot too.
Speaker 2: I mean you get paid well, yeah, very well. But
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's like, even if
Speaker 2: you didn't get paid for three weeks of your time, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's all I know to do other things. No, let
Speaker 2: me be real, it was great. What I'm saying is
Speaker 2: that how quick it is to make what you make
Speaker 2: in those three weeks with Tyler Perry, someone would have
Speaker 2: to work a whole year. Oh wow, yeah, yeah, more
Speaker 2: well more than that.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: The the salary and the minimum wage is is what
Speaker 2: it is. You would have to be working several years
Speaker 2: to get what you can get in three weeks from him,
Speaker 2: because he expects you to come prepared. He expects you
Speaker 2: to do the work.
Speaker 1: Obviously, you're not late.
Speaker 2: No one's late, girl, Tyler Perris never late. That's one thing.
Speaker 1: Anyone late to say.
Speaker 2: Ever, yeah what somebody was sick one of the days,
Speaker 2: But again that's that's that's sick. But no, I mean,
Speaker 2: stuff happens by the end of the day. Tyler's such
Speaker 2: a professional. He's like, we're gonna move this scene to
Speaker 2: the end of the day. We're gonna move this scene
Speaker 2: over here. He's not gonna lose no time. I like,
Speaker 2: he's not gonna lose no time.
Speaker 1: I like him, so we got to close this interview out.
Speaker 1: I have so much fun with you. I love that
Speaker 1: you opened up the way he did. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're sisters.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for feeding me. Come on, you
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna finish.
Speaker 2: Just lasting bits that we're gonna put our bite together,
Speaker 2: all right, Let's put together, all right? Why tuning in
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