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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Colleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guest actress and host Portia Coleman is in the building. Ramona,

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Speaker 1: how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good with just cooking of things, you know, not much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you already getting started. Why don't you go ahead?

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Speaker 1: I mean you are not wasting any time?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: On this show, we do have a phrase, the broker

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Speaker 1: the dish, the better the story. This dish was definitely

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Speaker 1: under I want to say, or ten bucks probably. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and tell our listeners what are you gonna

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Speaker 1: have me eating today?

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Speaker 2: Listen? So I'm gonna have y'all eating pigs and a blanket.

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Speaker 2: It's the perfect struggle meal because everybody knows a good

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Speaker 2: hot dog. Yeah, but I never loved the hot dog

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Speaker 2: buns as much as I like these biscuits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, the biscuits. You didn't even choose the chrismal.

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Speaker 2: No, not Caissant's. The biscuits is by the time you

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Speaker 2: pack them and you put them in and they get fluffy.

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Speaker 2: Trust me, these pigs in a banket. It fills you

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Speaker 2: up while you're struggling, but at the same time you

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Speaker 2: appreciate it because it cooks. Usually I would always actually

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Speaker 2: heat and cook my wieners first. Okay, okay, so I

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Speaker 2: do that first usually, but they could still cook while

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Speaker 2: in here too. So you take it like this. You

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Speaker 2: take it and you roll it.

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Speaker 1: So when you cook it, are you putting it in hot?

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Speaker 2: I put the usually the wieners in fully cooked, but no,

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Speaker 2: you put it in because the biscuit's gonna cook, and

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Speaker 2: then the winner can cook inside it at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Usually it's about fifteen minutes. I like my stuff well done,

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Speaker 2: so I like to leave it in there so it's

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Speaker 2: literally easy. And what I'm gonna do is, I'm actually

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Speaker 2: gonna like put a little butter already in the pan

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Speaker 2: because you don't want it to stick. You gotta have

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Speaker 2: it be nice and greasy so it can kind of

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Speaker 2: like toast a little bit too, like underneath it.

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Speaker 1: And then we got you the buster the butter biscuits.

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Speaker 1: If I didn't know you were gonna cook your first,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't too sure on the show.

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Speaker 2: I always like, I like to cook my wieners first,

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Speaker 2: but it's okay because it can still cooked while inside.

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Speaker 2: It's not a problem. But no, I like to butter

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Speaker 2: this little pan. But see like this little I mean,

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Speaker 2: look how cute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's cute. I didn't know how you were gonna

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you take it and you roll it up again

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Speaker 2: struggle meal.

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Speaker 1: So you won't see the you won't see the hot

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Speaker 1: dogs from the outside.

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Speaker 2: See that's the thing. Sometimes you can take them and

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Speaker 2: cut them up if you want a smaller biscuit. But

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Speaker 2: since these are the wide ones, you can cut them

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Speaker 2: up and just still have it throughout. Because if you

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Speaker 2: take one whole wiener, the whole winer would be extended

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Speaker 2: past the biscuit. Yeah, so you don't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: It's already going to expand, and so will the wiinner itself,

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Speaker 2: so you're gonna actually taste Look the wiinner's on both sides.

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Speaker 2: See it's already here. So I'm telling you talking about struggle.

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Speaker 2: This right here was my quick go to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the ingredients are.

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Speaker 2: Butter biscuits, butter biscuits, a little bit of butter and

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Speaker 2: some margarine, and all you need is some some hot dogs.

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Speaker 2: Like it's so simple and so easy. So look, so

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Speaker 2: see you can go this way like this. So see

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Speaker 2: how I'm putting them like this. You take them and

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Speaker 2: you fold it this way, and you do it just

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Speaker 2: like this, and you cover it because you want to

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Speaker 2: make sure they don't open up while you're actually putting

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Speaker 2: them in the Yeah, I'm telling you it looks crazy,

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Speaker 2: but it's gonna be so delicious.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I'm starving. So you don't ever add

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Speaker 1: cheese or anything.

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Speaker 2: No, we'll see these are butter biscuits though. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: you can add cheese, but I personally didn't need cheese

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Speaker 2: or like them necessarily in between it because again, we

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Speaker 2: ain't got no cheese. But I never tried it with cheese,

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Speaker 2: but I never I never needed it because again, these busts.

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Speaker 2: Look at these biscuits.

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Speaker 1: These are already so yet it's gonna be good. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna mess with your dish. I'm just

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Speaker 1: like getting creative from the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Listen. I love it. So see this one, I don't

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Speaker 2: let's say, I don't want to make it that long.

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Speaker 2: Take it this way, m hm. You wrap it on.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing. We have more than enough weianers

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Speaker 2: to work with these biscuits. So we're gonna take this

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Speaker 2: up in here, got it, roll it on down.

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Speaker 1: And this is what you were doing to get through

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Speaker 1: the hard times, did you not? So take me back

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Speaker 1: to what was going on during these hard times.

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Speaker 2: You know what? So I'm going all the way back

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Speaker 2: to when I was seven. Okay, So we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about a little project, a movie that I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: guys will all know called Friday. Oh yeah, I was

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Speaker 2: a background after at the ice cream truck and Friday. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So just to show how long this process has been,

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Speaker 2: from seven till now, there's nothing overnight about my success

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Speaker 2: at all. So I was seven years old, me and

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Speaker 2: my mom, bugging it out, single mom?

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Speaker 1: And did you have siblings?

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Speaker 2: I have an older brother, but he's eighteen years older

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Speaker 2: than me. Oh jeez, So I was technically raised like

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Speaker 2: an only child because my.

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Speaker 1: Brother had an eighteen years spread.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, re married God with my dad and why exactly

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Speaker 2: she said that finished line? She was thirty five and

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Speaker 2: was like, I'm starting all over again? What is this?

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Speaker 2: What is going on? Yeah? And she actually did just.

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Speaker 1: Does she ever when she gets mad at you? Like

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Speaker 1: ever mentioned like I started.

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Speaker 2: All out over you. Yeah. She used to its me

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Speaker 2: like that ain't my fault. You chose my daddy, and

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Speaker 2: my daddy was ten years her junior. Oh, my pops

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Speaker 2: was twenty she was thirty, and then they got married

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Speaker 2: to have me at thirty five and twenty five, I said, mine,

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Speaker 2: you was you was robbing the credle cridle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so she know what she was doing.

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Speaker 2: Still together, No, they're not still together now, Like I said,

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Speaker 2: my dad actually passing twenty nineteen. Oh yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: tough because you know the interesting thing about life. I

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Speaker 2: was with my dad the night before he suddenly passed away.

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Speaker 2: Oh he suddenly just suddenly passed away. My dad was

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Speaker 2: only fifty nine. He was fifty nine years old. So

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Speaker 2: this is just the definition I think, following your intuition.

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Speaker 2: So I'm out in the valley doing my thing, and

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Speaker 2: I had a lot of airan chevon. I was gonna

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Speaker 2: be a Marina. My dad lives in Compton Wilmington Central

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Speaker 2: And at first I was like, Oh, that's far away,

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Speaker 2: there's traffic, and I don't know if I should go

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Speaker 2: do that. Something told me again. I called my dad.

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Speaker 2: He didn't answer, so I was like, all right, let

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Speaker 2: me just pop up. I'm gonna go surprise my pops.

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Speaker 2: He's probably already off work. I know he gonna be home.

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Speaker 2: Go to his house. He in the garage, hill on

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Speaker 2: his friends, still in his work outfit. Dotta, what are

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Speaker 2: you doing here? And I'm like, nothing much. I just

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Speaker 2: want to surprise you. What's up? What are we doing today?

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Speaker 2: We loved going to Sizzler, we loved doing our this

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Speaker 2: daddy daughter day and we spent the entire day together,

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Speaker 2: there abound four or five, left around midnight. He said,

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Speaker 2: call me tomorrow. You know, your daddy's awesome. Me go

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Speaker 2: with my friend and just call me later. But he

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Speaker 2: loves to talk. I did to get my dad to

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear from him, and no big deal. And

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Speaker 2: talking about? Something's wrong with my dad? Like that's just random.

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Speaker 2: I just seen him I say, come to the house,

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Speaker 2: And first thing I thought was, if somebody's sick, you

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Speaker 2: So he didn't say that, but I knew in my

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Speaker 2: pulled around the corner, I'm talking about cop cars, but

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Speaker 2: people all in the streets. My dad was very popular.

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Speaker 2: Just you know. My dad had a key to the

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Speaker 2: So my dad was that dude, and I knew something.

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Speaker 2: when I thought about that, I was like, of course devastated,

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Speaker 2: and I did. Yeah, And having that peace was.

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Speaker 1: Like I was gonna ask you, did it help you?

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Speaker 2: Kind one thousand percent? And I never and honestly, like,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it's final. I don't need to see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: People came and I stayed around the corner while I

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Speaker 2: know the coroner came, and I was like, I was

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Speaker 2: with my dad before. And I literally thank God to

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Speaker 2: day before and following that gut intuition that I did

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Speaker 2: because I was with him the night before.

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Speaker 1: How did your mom respond to it?

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Speaker 2: Well, of course they had been separated for so long,

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Speaker 2: they've been separated, but my mom of course was there.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, wow, it's like, I mean family at

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Speaker 2: the same time. So Mom was there, I remember she

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Speaker 2: and it was just like the process of thinking like

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Speaker 2: I was just with him, but at the same time,

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Speaker 2: that was God giving me that time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that.

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Speaker 2: Was God giving me the final moment. So to this day,

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Speaker 2: I'm grateful and even everything that I'm doing now, my

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Speaker 2: daughter will always be bragging his friends. Oh my daughter's

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Speaker 2: on TV. You gotta go watch my daughter. And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I know, I'm making my pops proud. He's writing Inglewood

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Speaker 2: in a mausoleum. Any time on driving by Inglewood, I

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Speaker 2: Like his presence is literally with me, because I've had

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Speaker 1: So take go ahead and take me back to seven

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Speaker 2: Yeah? But landing the Friday movie in the sense of background.

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Speaker 2: I'm like dang, Like it was so funny and so

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Speaker 1: It was like immediate So was it your mom that

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Speaker 2: It was both. I was already like, I have video

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Speaker 2: At five YMCA, I'm singing I Miss You much Janet

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you were you were already invested already. So

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Speaker 2: Well, my mom had a job. She worked at the

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Speaker 2: mind you, who's eighteen years like he's telling you older

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Speaker 2: So my aunt and my uncle were already doing a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, depending you have to. Yeah, a lot of times

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Speaker 1: to leverage more versus if you're just an independent contract

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00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,160
Speaker 1: care company.

434
00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,440
Speaker 2: Independent contractors don't get looked at as a good business

435
00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:48,439
Speaker 2: person to loan money to.

436
00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,520
Speaker 1: And then and then the banks also get look at

437
00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,560
Speaker 1: you as higher risks because they're like, wait, how do

438
00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,200
Speaker 1: we know your business is even gonna be here.

439
00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,680
Speaker 2: There's too many people that are entrepreneurs, too many people

440
00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,639
Speaker 2: that are trying to trying to say it, because this

441
00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,639
Speaker 2: entertainment is full of people that are hoping to make it.

442
00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,720
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, if I'm a bank,

443
00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm not going to give you five hundred thousand dollars

444
00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,600
Speaker 2: because you got a hope and a dream. I would

445
00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,080
Speaker 2: give you that money if I saw you had a

446
00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,880
Speaker 2: company and you're putting yourself on saling and your company

447
00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,119
Speaker 2: already gross this money and you're paying yourself a salary

448
00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,920
Speaker 2: of eighty or ninety k. It just looks different on paper.

449
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,800
Speaker 2: So in hindsight, of course, everything that I see now

450
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,719
Speaker 2: I wish my mom had done. And there's a lot

451
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,760
Speaker 2: of tension that it came from that once I let

452
00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,320
Speaker 2: her know.

453
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,160
Speaker 1: Like when did you let her know? Like what age

454
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:27,520
Speaker 1: are you?

455
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,840
Speaker 2: Like? Oh, man, I got my license in sixteen. So

456
00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,080
Speaker 2: when I got my license, the first thing I said was, Okay, Mom,

457
00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,480
Speaker 2: I want you to transition from this standpoint of being

458
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 2: just my mom that's with me, to being maybe a CPA.

459
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,200
Speaker 2: Maybe you could be a business manager. Maybe you could

460
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,360
Speaker 2: do this I'm talking about. I'm like, so big college,

461
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,880
Speaker 2: like your mom, not your ma mager, correct the ma major.

462
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,320
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people take that standpoint. But

463
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,280
Speaker 2: to me, if you're my manager, you bringing jobs to

464
00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:52,600
Speaker 2: the table.

465
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're like booking your own jobs. You're dealing

466
00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,280
Speaker 1: with my agent exactly she's doing.

467
00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,840
Speaker 2: She's dealing with the agents and calling them because obviously

468
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,640
Speaker 2: that back then it was pages. Let me talk. I'll

469
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,280
Speaker 2: tell my age is pagers. You get a page, come

470
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,040
Speaker 2: to the office, you gotta leave, you got an audition,

471
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 2: Come because you have a meeting. So she's driving me everywhere.

472
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,639
Speaker 2: But at the point when I'm able to drive, and

473
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,760
Speaker 2: I got my diploma when I was sixteen, years old.

474
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,400
Speaker 2: I was legally emancipated in sixteen. I graduated a year

475
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,400
Speaker 2: emancipated in sixteen. So here's the thing.

476
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,400
Speaker 1: You divorced your mom.

477
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. So let's clarify that, no, emancipation is

478
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 2: in the system of schooling. You're technically legally listed as

479
00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 2: an adult because when people are working on set, actors

480
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,640
Speaker 2: and kids can only work about like four to six hours. Yeah.

481
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,159
Speaker 2: So if I'm sixteen, but if I've already got my diploma,

482
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 2: that means they don't have to send me to schooling

483
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 2: on set, and if I've already legally fulfilled my obligation

484
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 2: in the school system, I can work twelve to fifteen

485
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 2: hours like an adult.

486
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 1: So you're saying emancipated in this That's what it means

487
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 1: to me.

488
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 2: Emancipation is legally in the system of acting.

489
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 1: Okay, because they have emancipation, Like I know in New York,

490
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 1: it's like where you you sever that time with your parents,

491
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 1: they're no longer legally financially response.

492
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's for sure. I've definitely seen a lot

493
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 2: of kids that are like going through adoption and they're like, hey, okay,

494
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 2: I want to mancipate for my parent. You know, in

495
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 2: the emancipation of acting world, it's just from the sense of, oh,

496
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 2: you're graduating. Because I even remember the first time it

497
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,959
Speaker 2: really counted was when I remember I was sixteen going

498
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: on seventeen and the Parkers audition came up, and I

499
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 2: remember they wanted somebody like in their twenties. Yeah, so

500
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 2: I was only seventeen. They didn't know that, but my

501
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,479
Speaker 2: agent I was listed as an adult. By the time

502
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 2: I got on set and was working with Monique and

503
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 2: all them, they were like, how old are you? And

504
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've already graduated. I drive myself to set. Wow,

505
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 2: I'm treated like an adult in the system. So therefore,

506
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 2: companies want to work with the kids. Even if you

507
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,880
Speaker 2: see a lot of movies back in the day when

508
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 2: we were watching Saved by the Bill, all the kids

509
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 2: weren't high schoolers. They're in their thirties for a reason. Yeah,

510
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,719
Speaker 2: Power Rangers, all these different shows where you have kids,

511
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,400
Speaker 2: the actors are of age, they just play younger.

512
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,640
Speaker 1: Now, when Monique and those guys found out, like, hey,

513
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 1: she's younger, did it cause a little bit.

514
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 2: No, It was totally fun because me and count is

515
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 2: vond were not necessarily close in age, but we always

516
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 2: had to vibe. Me and ken Elle Countess Parker, like

517
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 2: even Monique. I walked on seting the first thing she

518
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 2: said was we need to get this bittion food. You

519
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 2: too scared? And I was like, here we go, Like no,

520
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 2: it was a vibe. It was. It was so fun.

521
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: But the fact that I already graduated early outside of emancipation.

522
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: I did all my credits that I needed, and I

523
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: already was ahead of my courses and was smart. So

524
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: I graduated literally a year early.

525
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 1: Did you now were you going to regular schooling or

526
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 1: were you doing private?

527
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I went to Hollywood High School Performing Arts, right,

528
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 2: So you're busting.

529
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: You really focused, you knew what you wanted to do.

530
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: I was a school I loved school and I loved working,

531
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: So I went to school. I got all my credits,

532
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 2: but at the same time, I wanted to be an actress,

533
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 2: so I figured, if I can go to school finish early,

534
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: I can get out and go to set in full time.

535
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 2: So I got my diploma. Then I went to a

536
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: home school and just took like calculus and just like

537
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 2: some math classes to already be over yeah, like I

538
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: already went over expectation what I needed to do because

539
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: I was already I looked and as a junior, I

540
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 2: was like, wait, I could have graduated, like at the

541
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: tenth grade. I know not I have so many credits

542
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: because you get more credits when you're on set. I

543
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: was like, I could have been out of school. So

544
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: I checked out my junior year and I was like,

545
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to a whole school for two three months,

546
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 2: and I'm glad I did because I end up getting

547
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 2: a Disney movie and I was not even gonna be

548
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: home for my graduation.

549
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

550
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: So I remember going to another friend's prom and literally

551
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 2: celebrating my birthday in Salt Lake City on the set

552
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: of Pixel Perfect.

553
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

554
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: And I did it Disney with, which is big now

555
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: on Disney Plus people go watch it all the time.

556
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 2: They hit me.

557
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: So at sixteen, though, you're starting to say hey mama.

558
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, cause I'm driving, I'm doing my things. So I'm like, hey,

559
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: I don't need you in that capacity, so maybe try

560
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: to shift into this lane. So it's also like trying

561
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: to adult in a way, because you grow up fast

562
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: when you're in entertainment.

563
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: Mind youuly having a conversation like that with your parents.

564
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 2: You know, it's like you need that, like because I know,

565
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 2: like I'm very self sufficient so much in a way

566
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: where it's like it's scary where I'm like, I have

567
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 2: to let other people help me do things because I'm

568
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: so used to doing it myself. But at sixteen, I'm like, Okay,

569
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: I got my license, I already had a first car,

570
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: I got everything, so now let's try to transition into

571
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 2: this phase of what you can be for me. But

572
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: my mom is stuck on like, no, I gotta be there.

573
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna be with you and we're gonna be together.

574
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like okay. So it kind of kept going,

575
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, for a while, and I'm like, Okay, the

576
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: transition has to happen because why am I going to

577
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 2: pay another person to do what I'd rather pay my

578
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: mom to do. Because if you look at a lot

579
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 2: of people that are celebrities, they hire like Jamie. One

580
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: of my good friends, Jamie Fox, love him so much.

581
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: His sister is his stylist, His best friend is his

582
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 2: wardrobe stylist. His sister does his heir, He keeps his

583
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: stuff in the family, and I love that because you

584
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: trust your family, So it's like you want to do that,

585
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: but at the same time, if they're not capable of

586
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: doing it, I'm also not going to be putting myself

587
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 2: in a position to not have you doing the proper

588
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 2: job when you need to go get get training. If

589
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna be my CPA, I need you to study business.

590
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 2: If you're going to be my manager, I need you

591
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: to go study on how to talk to these agencies.

592
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: No, so what is her capacity right now?

593
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 2: To you? Oh that's interesting. Just look at the ball,

594
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: Look at the biscuit.

595
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: It looks so good.

596
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: Come on, you think I'm playing.

597
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get out of this question.

598
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get out the question. The capacity right

599
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: now currently.

600
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: We probably have to stop that big bad the audio

601
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: is gonna they're gonna.

602
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: Go, oh yeah, okay, so let's let's stop the I

603
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: got it, I got you. Look how fire it looked though.

604
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: It looks good. I'm hungry too.

605
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 2: Oh man, are they getting this because y'all see my biscuits?

606
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: No to see it right here? Okay?

607
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, It just reminded me to do

608
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: my job.

609
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: Come on, it's okay. Oh brow look at the pigs

610
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: in the blanket. Wow, the pigs are in the blanket.

611
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: And that's why I told you.

612
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: Now, why do you use the biscuits? Did you answer

613
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: me before? Why you use the biscuit and not the.

614
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: The crsuns are too flaky? Oh really yeah, so crssants

615
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: are too flaky. So therefore I love flaky. But the

616
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 2: things that they're going to fall apart if you're cooking

617
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: them too long when you're cooking also the winner. So

618
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 2: that's the only thing I love flaky. But these biscuits

619
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: also have a little bit of on tool. So that's

620
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: why I told you I needed the butter, because see,

621
00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: look when you put the.

622
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: Butter, it is curious.

623
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: It is it is for sure. I remember we turned

624
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: it back on. So see you got to get the boy.

625
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: She turned it back on. When she came back in,

626
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 2: you turned it back on. It's all okay, cool, it's sorry,

627
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: it's okay.

628
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: It looks so good.

629
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: It's delicious. I'm telling you when you get the little biscuits.

630
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: So your your mom, yes, is she at the is

631
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: she at mom capacity or is she at I'm doing something?

632
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: I want her to be at mom capacity. But I

633
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: think if we're just being transparent, because a lot of

634
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: people go through this, you know, in the ship and

635
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: dynamic when it comes to their kids. Sometimes growing up,

636
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: I had to choose myself over what my mom was

637
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: kind of stuck on because I think at the point

638
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: when someone gets angry with you because they're not around

639
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: in a capacity that they want, when you're telling them

640
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: what you need, it can get a little toxic. Yeah,

641
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: So I kept telling her what I needed and what

642
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 2: was important, and for her it would go over her head.

643
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: She didn't care. So I had to kind of put

644
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: this position of like, Mom, these people are going to

645
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: be helping me do it. You at any point can

646
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: kick in when you want to. But if that's not

647
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: going to happen, unfortunately, we're going to have to to

648
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: cause a separation in this relationship.

649
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: And then at this point is she working other jobs.

650
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about it.

651
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: So it's so good. That's why I'm buttering it. That's

652
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 2: why I'm doing it, girl, Venus, That's why I'm doing

653
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm getting you to your biscuits. I'm preparing your biscuits.

654
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: I think I would hope that she's of course, you know,

655
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: you know proud, which I think it's that dynamic, but

656
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: at the same time, it's almost proud of you. They

657
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 2: would reach out to you too.

658
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: Are you guys not talking?

659
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: No?

660
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: Ah, dang no.

661
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: And again I feel like it's only a matter of time.

662
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 2: But here goes back to but.

663
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: How long have you guys not been talking? Is it

664
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: like a bad month?

665
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: It's been No, it's been longer than a month. It's

666
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: been longer than a month. And I'm only saying this

667
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: from the standpoint because I think the power of healing

668
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: is what people need to no one understand. And choosing

669
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: yourself because sometimes parents' job, I think, is to raise

670
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: their children to be able to fly off.

671
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: And yes, I have this discussion with my husband all

672
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: the time, like I think our responsibilities to kind of belity.

673
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: And your kids to leave you because at the end

674
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: of the day, you're not going to be around forever

675
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: and your kids have to be okay without you. I've

676
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: been so self sufficient for so long, but I realize

677
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: doing that, I enabled my mother to be self sufficient.

678
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: Well, that was going to be one of my questions

679
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: because it seems like you were very self sufficient book, Yeah,

680
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't your mom who had a role to play. Where

681
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: did this independence come from?

682
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: You know, I think the independence came well in a way,

683
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 2: technically from my mom too. If my mom's a single mother,

684
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: you grow up watching someone do it all alone, right, Yeah,

685
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: So technically in a way that helped me. See like, okay,

686
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: I could do things on my own because of course

687
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: I'm young. It's not like I have a man or

688
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: need something. I had managers, I had agents, I had

689
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: people in my life that were there. But when it

690
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: came time to do business, when I was like, wait

691
00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: a minute, y'all, look at this though, Look at you.

692
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: I told you that I'm talking about pigs in a blanket.

693
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: Grab one. So I'm telling you grab one, take it

694
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: and put your little ketchup and your little mustard on

695
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: the plate. Butter and the butter, popp and that's that's

696
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: what they need. The butter. You gotta get the butter.

697
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: That's why I put a little extra on there. And

698
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: I love butter. That's what I'm saying. You gotta get

699
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: the butter on a bit.

700
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm excited.

701
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 2: Put that. If you want a little Dejon too, I

702
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: usually just do ketchup and shake up the ketchup because

703
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: you don't like it to be you know, the watering

704
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: paratly gonna come out first.

705
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how long have you and your mom not

706
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: been talking?

707
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: So it's it's it's been a second. I think it's been.

708
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean I look back and the last

709
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: sext message was November or something like that.

710
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: But even before Sisters is out and you didn't get it. Congratulations. No,

711
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: but damn that sucks. I mean sorry, no, no, no,

712
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, you know kids, you're thinking about it in

713
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: the back of your mind.

714
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: We're talking honestly, we're talking honestly. My thing is that

715
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: I wish that people and this is what anybody And

716
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: that's when I had to separate the difference between you

717
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: might need to cut into it. If not, just take

718
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: a bite. Let let's take our first bide. Do you

719
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: want to do it?

720
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: Want to do it?

721
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: Dip it in? Take a bile? Right right? How we

722
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: like him?

723
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: Go to now?

724
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: How are we liking him? Make sure you get the

725
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: winger and they're.

726
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: Doing I'm gonna eat this whole thing.

727
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you she likes it, y'all. First of all,

728
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: she killed her biscuit and her pig and a blanket,

729
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: so I almost say this is a hit.

730
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: It's a definite head noah, you know, I will definitely

731
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: go home and do this for my time, you know,

732
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: for your kids.

733
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Like we're making pigs in a blanket today, So you

734
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: want the more christal. You don't have to put as

735
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: much butter. But I like the butter because it just

736
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: seeps it in, right, mm hmm, so good.

737
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: This is brilliant, easy, and it's brilliant right to the point.

738
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: Then it's take less than five bucks.

739
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: Five dollars. Get you some biscuits. Pop them open, put

740
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: them in a blanket. And that's why you see I

741
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: rolled them like that so they stay tight. So even

742
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: though it looked like they were mushed, when as soon

743
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: as the biscuit expands, it still keeps it. So you

744
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: see the winder on the outside here.

745
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the way you did the

746
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: hot do say?

747
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: Listen, I was fine with the hot dogs, Like I said,

748
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 2: I usually cook them before, but the hot dogs are

749
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: already Like, it's fine, the hot dogs are cooked. That's

750
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: why I wanted you at least a good fifteen life.

751
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: So good, I hold up tearing it up. This is

752
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: my hope and this is what my thoughts.

753
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: Well, this is a contribution of your mom. R.

754
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: This is a contribution because she used to do pigs

755
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: in a banket for me, I think for me where

756
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: I think the separation, of course even started more after

757
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: me kind of begging and even saying like, hey, ten

758
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: years ago, I'm like, we need to help our relationship

759
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: go to the next level because I'm not a parent,

760
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: but I feel like, as a parent, you should transition

761
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: from this is my child, this is my young adult,

762
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: this is my adult. Now we're friends in a capacity.

763
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: I'm still the mother, But how do you need me

764
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: to be there for you?

765
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: The guiter from like the.

766
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. It's like, if I'm self sufficient

767
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: in my business, all I need you to do is

768
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: just be a mom and be my.

769
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: Parent in that way, like listening and just and.

770
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: Being that person not combative or not.

771
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: But also a cheerleader too, like the boy Sisters is

772
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: out like cheerleading.

773
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's great. My mom was always the cheerleader.

774
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: But I would notice that when I'm trying to work

775
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: on the depth of our relationship, she was more focused on, Okay,

776
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: there's a red carpet, Okay, there's something we can go

777
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: to here, And it was distracting from me because I'm like, listen,

778
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: I'm your daughter first and foremost before i'm a celebrity

779
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: on the red carpet. Yeah, And I had to start

780
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: choosing to notice the boundaries and where no, you're not

781
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: going to reap the benefits without doing the work. And

782
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm the type of person who I'm like, I want

783
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: to do the work. And that's where it kind of

784
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: got tricky when I was like, Okay, you're not going

785
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: to come to this event, You're not going to come

786
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: to that, Well, what's the problem, Because I told you

787
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 2: the problem. We got to work on our relationship and

788
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: choosing to not want to do that and not wanting

789
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: to heal and wanting to just.

790
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Has she ever done counseling? And I'm sorry, I.

791
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: Remember one time it was Yeah, I've offered over and over.

792
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: I sent the therapies, I sent all of that, just

793
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: trying to say, this is what we need to be

794
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: because I'm willing to be transparent, but I have things

795
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: that I want to talk about as a child that

796
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: I feel that this is what would help our mommy

797
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: daughter relationship but also the business side. But you need

798
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: to learn how to separate the two. And that's why

799
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: you see a lot of kids that are suing parents

800
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: because their parents didn't necessarily know how to separate that

801
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: same thing. So do I feel we can get back

802
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: on track? Yes? But am I in a space right

803
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: now where I'm like I did all I could, knowing

804
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: that I put it out there regarding Mom, this is

805
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: where I'm at, this is what needs to happen for us,

806
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: and let's go have someone else come in. And I

807
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: think it's someone with that generation too. My mom is

808
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: seventy five. God bust the people that are at the

809
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: generation prior, you know, or two generations prior, because she

810
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: had me at thirty five, so there is a big

811
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: age gap there. So a lot of the beliefs are

812
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: like therapy, why would you do that?

813
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I noticed that with the I feel like

814
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: with that age, not trying to hate on that age

815
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: where not.

816
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: I do see that with even peers like they're stubborn, They're.

817
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: Hella stubborn and they're hella. What is it like defensive?

818
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: It's like almost like.

819
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Defense mechanism, Like crazy, if I can say, hey Mom,

820
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: this is what I need, can we do this? What

821
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: about you and I'm like, wait, I'm just having a

822
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: conversation about hot.

823
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: The defensiveness is the tricky part, and I think as

824
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: their child who loves them, and you're like, man, after

825
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: a while, it's like I don't even want to address

826
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: these things because it could set off a nuclear bomb

827
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: and that's where the break ends up in the sea.

828
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: So many parents, I realize, have that sort of mindset,

829
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: but in that age bracket, it's so crazy, and kids

830
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: that are my age, there are so many people, like

831
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: I said, because I haven't even talked about this and

832
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: like even like put it out there like that only

833
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: a couple close friends know. There's so many people that

834
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: I know that had to separate from their parent because

835
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: of the healing that needed to be done, that the

836
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: parent was either choosing to try to live their life

837
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: for them and be this is how you need to live,

838
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: this is how you need to do that. And it's like,

839
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: at what point do you say, this is not your life.

840
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: I thank you for having me, but now my life

841
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 2: has to be lived. I want you to support and

842
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: be there for me, like I should be there for you,

843
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: But why do I have to be just dictated to

844
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: and when I have something to say you don't want

845
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: to hear it.

846
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I also think it creates some kind

847
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: of trauma because I now talk to I'm not gonna

848
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: say who it is, but they felt like, you know,

849
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: they just kind of got to the point where it's like,

850
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: my mom loves me, but she just doesn't like me.

851
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: And I was like, because that's what happens, though, if

852
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: your parent continually shuts you down, you're just like, you

853
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: know what, I know this person would take a bullet

854
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: for me, but they just don't like me. And I've

855
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: accepted it, so I no longer come to them with

856
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: either something amazing or I don't come to them when

857
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm in a hard That's true because I just feel

858
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: like this person that I love so much is that

859
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: I know loves me but just doesn't like me. And

860
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it creates a trauma.

861
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: That creates a trauma. And I had to look back

862
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: when I thought of like when you think of your

863
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: first your first car, your first apartment, your force wins.

864
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: I looked back and I was like, my mom hated

865
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: on all those see I hate that, Like I'm just

866
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: giving me even more transparent. I was proposed to and

867
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: the guy went to my brother to ask him. Was like, hey,

868
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: don't tell her mom. You know, I'm just coming to

869
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: you because I know her father's not here. And my

870
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: mom had the nerve to literally tell me the night before, no,

871
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm no had I had no idea that sun And

872
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, First of all, my brother knew,

873
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: so I me and my brother disobeyed and went to

874
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: go tell moms. Moms held it for months and I

875
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, me and my guy are going

876
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: on the trip. Oh, we're going on the trip overseas

877
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: or something like that. You know he's gonna propose you right, Well,

878
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: what you think?

879
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, did she say like, you

880
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: know he's probably no.

881
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: No, you know he's gonna you know he's gonna propose you. Yeah,

882
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: he already reached out to your brother and he already

883
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: asked for your head. Oh oh oh oh, oh oh oh.

884
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking about all of that. My first apartment I remember,

885
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna just say this too, because again we talking,

886
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: we even while broke when we're talking about it. I

887
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: didn't move out, so I was like third thirty really,

888
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: but again it was at my place, but my mom

889
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: was living with me, but I was like, it's time

890
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: for us to separate and go.

891
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Wait. Hated it when you say your mom. So it

892
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: was like, was it like her place you paying the

893
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: bills or you're.

894
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I was thirteen, we moved. I'm on the

895
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 2: lease at thirteen years old. I'm on the lease. You're

896
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: on the lease because we move in together. But the

897
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: place that we got, my friend is the one who

898
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: gave it to us, like it was a it was

899
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: a nice apartment complex, two bedroom, two bathroom, Like I'm

900
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: on the least. The reason why I'm saying if it's

901
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: my place is because if I'm seven making checks and

902
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: then i'm thirteen, forteen to fifty, all the way I'm paying.

903
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're paying the rent.

904
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: So it's like and I wasn't tripping, mind you. Me

905
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 2: and my mom had a good relationship, but I started

906
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: noticing the more that I started trying to be independent,

907
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: the more it's like, you can't do that. Why are

908
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: you doing that? You shouldn't be doing that, And I'm like,

909
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: that's weird. Like getting a car is a big deal.

910
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: You didn't like that getting.

911
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: Now you got the car yourself.

912
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: Yes, okay of course I got the car myself.

913
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: But then I don't know if she like set it

914
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: up in a way where it felt like it was

915
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: coming from her, or was it just very open, like no,

916
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: it never came.

917
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 2: No, it never came from her. I got a car

918
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: on my own. I went to a lot and was like, oh, okay,

919
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: I want to go get a car. So I called

920
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: my friend and was like, Hey, what are they about

921
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: this car? It's like literally like this this mind you.

922
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 2: It was already a used car, but it was still

923
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: on a couple thousand miles. I'm like, this is a

924
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: great steal, and I'm like, I don't know how my

925
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 2: mom's gonna take it. I started realizing, like you started

926
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: realizing early. I started having a watch things that I

927
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 2: was sharing. I'm like, Dan, that's not fair to me.

928
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: You have to watch what I have to say.

929
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: That kind of goes back to what I'm saying where

930
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: you kind of set that tone of the trauma, that the.

931
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: Tone of your trauma, so your defense mechanism is stronger

932
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: than it even should be.

933
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Your survival and that goes back also why you were

934
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: so independent.

935
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm like, mantimes, it's not a good thing.

936
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Dependent. Yeah, you're independent, came from lack.

937
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: Of Sometimes your independence comes from the mentality of I

938
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: gotta do this because I have to to fight for

939
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: myself and my own right to speak up if I'm

940
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: a kid supposed to grow up and be happy and

941
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: supported in that regard. But I'm being tugged like, no,

942
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: you can't do that, No you shouldn't do this. No, no, no,

943
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm not a no person. I'm always

944
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: gonna think something is going to be the grass of

945
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: the greeners other side, the glass is half full, not

946
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: half empty. But someone is pulling at you. You're like, now,

947
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: is it them that has a problem with what you're

948
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: doing or are you just not being allowed to flow?

949
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: You can see it. You can see it. Even when

950
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: you tell the story, it's like, I won't think about

951
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: this car. Instead of calling your mom, You're like, I'm

952
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: calling the friend. And then I'm still concerned on how

953
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: she gonna take the news.

954
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: And I'm still concerned, and even at the point when I'm.

955
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: So, when you go home with the car, how does

956
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: she handle it?

957
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I didn't even go home with

958
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: the car, the car that she was already driving was

959
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: a car that again that I got through a business

960
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: dal and we had from a friend. I called her

961
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: and like, oh, hey, come take a look at it.

962
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: I called her to the location, had her show up.

963
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: My friend is already there. She's there, and I'm like,

964
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: guess what this is. I'm gonna get this car. But

965
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: why we already got a car. I'm like, we have

966
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: one car. We need two cars.

967
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: So if you're had a license, mom, let's I need

968
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: my my.

969
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: That's just that makes control because if you have one car,

970
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: you can't go without me going, yeah, you can't go

971
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: unless I tell you. So. Again, it was that control factor,

972
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: so kind of like being a child actor and wanting

973
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: to flourish do that but someone is not letting you

974
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 2: do that. It creates a power struggle.

975
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeh.

976
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 2: And at some point you have to realize, Okay, if

977
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 2: I'm giving you my first car moment, the first apartment moment,

978
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: Like I moved out and my mom didn't talk to

979
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: me for a whole year and I paid her rent

980
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: in mind didn't.

981
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: Talk that whole year, entire year.

982
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot, and I'm like, I'm not supposed

983
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: to be paying your.

984
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: Now is there a part of you that were hoping

985
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: to like, maybe at some point she'll go, man, I

986
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: have a good daughter, and I'll just you know, I'm

987
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: just saying that.

988
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: At some point I was like, that should kick in.

989
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: But what I did was and I said, Mom, you

990
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: need to go take your chances and do this career

991
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: as well, because I feel that's what you want. I

992
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: feel you want to go act. So I got my

993
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: mom with my agency. My mom booked a stand in

994
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: role for Sisily Tyson and got her vouchers like this.

995
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking saying the first thing I say is like, Okay,

996
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: I used to do background work. I don't want my

997
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 2: mom in seventy I can do that. I paid thirty

998
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: four hundred for her to get her SAD card.

999
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: So you're like, yeah, but I so, I think that

1000
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: was an interesting plot twist right there to say maybe

1001
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: you want to do this too. It sounds like the

1002
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: daughter is the mom and the mom is the daughter.

1003
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: That's what started happening, and I'm like, okay, I can

1004
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: take that role, but I shouldn't have to take that role.

1005
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: So I me giving and providing in that kind of way.

1006
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: I kept feeling like I was getting shut out. In

1007
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: so many different ways shut out by it. It's like,

1008
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: but you should be happy for my wins. Why is

1009
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: it not this support factor that I should be having

1010
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: from you. So let me let you do it so

1011
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: you don't feel like you're missing out on something. I

1012
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: go do that during COVID, and then it's still like

1013
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm not getting phone calls, you're not talking to me,

1014
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: you're still not trying to go to therapy. It got

1015
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: to the point where I was like, well, I'm not

1016
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 2: paying a phone bill no more. You're gonna have yours,

1017
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: gonna have mine. Period. If you're not calling texting me,

1018
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: we're not gonna be talking unless you call me directly

1019
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: on my phone line that I paid for, You're gonna

1020
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: pay for your own. So I just had to start

1021
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: pulling away from certain things.

1022
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: How did.

1023
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: Anger Yeah, of course again, if someone's.

1024
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,959
Speaker 1: At this point it's now it's entitlement, I would imagine.

1025
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's entitlement, but also like, you're supposed

1026
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: to take care of me, You're supposed to do this,

1027
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: you're supposed to do that. I'm like, I didn't know

1028
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: that was the role of your children is to just

1029
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: take care of their parent, not if their parent is

1030
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: not sick, not their parent is not unable to do stuff.

1031
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: Now is she working at all during any of this?

1032
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: My mom is like she did a job in fashion,

1033
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: which I remember my brother got her. She worked at

1034
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: a fashion designers. But we were Me and my brother

1035
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: were always providing for my mother. She did little things

1036
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 2: here and there, but it was never anything full time.

1037
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: Because when your brother was you said, like right after

1038
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: eighteen he started going.

1039
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: My brother was gone out of college. But my brother

1040
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: did well. He was in real estate. He was I mean,

1041
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: that's when real estate was kicking all before the crash.

1042
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 2: He had money. He'd be like, y'all run his five

1043
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: six hundred dollars, do it. Because we were under rent control.

1044
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: This was twenty five years ago. Rent was cheaper then. Yeah,

1045
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: so we were always in control of that. But we

1046
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: both always were trying to find ways for my mom

1047
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: to Yeah, Mom, you can't leatch you all on to

1048
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: my brother. No more, you can't let youall to me.

1049
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: Let's get your own independent. So my mom, that's her

1050
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: unhealing self in her situation where she doesn't want to

1051
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: let go of her daught her because she's afraid of

1052
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: what that looks like for her and I.

1053
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: Had and then me and her identity could be wrapped

1054
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 1: up in it two.

1055
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: Right, one thousand percent. Everything was Porsch, Porsch Porsche. And

1056
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: I realized, my mom doesn't mean any harm, but she

1057
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: has to understand that, Mom, you have to have your

1058
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: own identity. Yeah. You need to walk in the room

1059
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: and say I'm this person, yeah, not Porsha's mom.

1060
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1061
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 2: And that's where I started having to realize we do

1062
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: need our own identities, because I'm like, I need to

1063
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: have you realize this fairly early.

1064
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: Too early, I think another thing that must have been

1065
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: tough to accept this. And I learned this very late

1066
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: in life. I would say, like thirty six, around that

1067
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: age where I was like, there's there's a I like

1068
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: to put people on and I no longer want to

1069
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: change people. I put them in their proper categories. So

1070
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you are, I have friends that are

1071
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: like ride or Die, that are like happy for me

1072
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: when I'm up, kill anybody when I'm down. We'll be

1073
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: sitting Girl will fly in, watch Pretty Women Get the

1074
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: Rocky Road, and We're gonna sit and watch these movies

1075
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: while we go through this breakup. And then when you win,

1076
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: they over the moon like they want the lottery. But

1077
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: then you have another You got another side, which is

1078
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: I'm down for you when you're down, but I'm not

1079
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: excited when you're up. And that one, I think is

1080
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: the hardest one to understand, because you know this person

1081
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: is down for you and they would kill for you,

1082
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: but they just not happy when you're up. And that's

1083
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: one of those things where you're kind of put into

1084
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: the position of dimming your light to make someone else.

1085
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: Come, to make someone else comfortable. And I love what

1086
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: you said about putting people in categories and letting people

1087
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: be who they are. I think the healing for me

1088
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: happened even not even a couple of years ago, when

1089
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: I realized my mother who is who she is, my

1090
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 2: brother is who he is, I am who I am.

1091
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: Just because you come from your parents doesn't mean that

1092
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: you are supposed to spend the rest of your lives

1093
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: under them and being best friends. And I think that

1094
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 2: is what I had to realize, is that my mom

1095
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: is who she's gonna be. My mom has been this

1096
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: way since for seventy five years. Yeah, I can't change her.

1097
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: I can love her from a distance. But I can

1098
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: also choose my piece and knowing what I need out

1099
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: of this relationship is you to be mother, not the

1100
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 2: lady who wants to come to the red carpets. Not

1101
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: the lady that wants to come and oh look at me,

1102
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: Like I got tired of that because I would go

1103
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: places and I would hear the conversations not about my daughter.

1104
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: My daughter's doing this, but guess what I used to

1105
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: be doing this and this is what I used to do.

1106
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: And guess what. You can catch me on this background

1107
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: show doing that and I'm like, but if you're here

1108
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: for me, that should be your focus and you're happy

1109
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: doing that for me. If I'm coming into your space,

1110
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and make the moment about well, yeah,

1111
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: her show cool, but see but guess what, but guess

1112
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: what this is? And then you know you got those

1113
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: kind of friends, like you said, that are happy for you,

1114
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: but that are also get away competing with you.

1115
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's one of the most painful things

1116
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: you can that you could actually learn because for a

1117
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: multitude of reasons. Yeah, but past that, I think the

1118
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: difficulty with being someone's child and I only know this

1119
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: I have a daughter I don't I have a daughter.

1120
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: I have a daughter. It's so new to me. It's

1121
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: weird because I feel me and my husband both try

1122
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: to do whatever what happened to us. We want to

1123
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: do everything in our power to not do it to her.

1124
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: And what I noticed with myself and I think with

1125
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: other people, is like you have this like unreal amount

1126
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: of I just want to know my parent loves me, right,

1127
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: And I think when you're facing those positions of you know,

1128
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: are they envious, is their jealousy or are they happy

1129
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: for me? Or are they not? Like I know they

1130
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: love me clearly, they got me to where I'm at,

1131
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: they fall for me. That that question, how do you

1132
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: navigate or do you ever navigate that question of like

1133
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: is this real love? Especially when they can go a

1134
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: long time without calling.

1135
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody loves different. For one, let's just say,

1136
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: like you said, you and your husband are trying not

1137
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: to do maybe what your parents did to you because

1138
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: you want a different whether it's a different life, a

1139
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: different outlook. You know, you go through things and you're like, Okay,

1140
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: I want to prevent somebody else from doing it. And

1141
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: also when people do that, they can stop their kids

1142
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: from really living or experiencing certain things. So my mom

1143
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: is that person like, wait, no, no, don't do that,

1144
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: because don't do that, And it's like, but I need

1145
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: to experience this. If I'm trying to be let's be real,

1146
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry is a billionaire. If I want to be rich,

1147
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: if I want to be in rooms where I'm walking

1148
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: in and getting respected, I'm gonna talk to Tyler. I'm

1149
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: not gonna go to my mom. No, I'm not gonna

1150
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: go here to the homegirl. And if you have to

1151
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: be around the people that you're trying to be, like,

1152
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: if you want to do better, you have to put

1153
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: yourself around people that are gonna help you get to

1154
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: that level. So I think she started thinking that something

1155
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: was disrespectful when I started saying, you can't be my

1156
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: plus one today because I'm gonna have my publicis coming

1157
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: because I need that next job. My agent's gonna come

1158
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: because they can talk to the producer and talk about

1159
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: giving me my next job.

1160
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, if you went to school and got the

1161
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: training or whatever, you started mastered, but.

1162
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: Don't take it personally. I'm taking somebody else like you

1163
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: think it's a slight to you, Like I don't like

1164
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: you like it has nothing to do with not liking you.

1165
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: I need that next gig because everybody knows actors can

1166
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: sit here all day long and talk, oh, look at

1167
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: the flash yourself offline, But everybody a lot of times

1168
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: is check to check in this business. When it comes

1169
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: to that one job that hits, it may be six

1170
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: months and you have nothing. So you got to sustain

1171
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: yourself in between that. So if I'm gonna be at premiere,

1172
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: if I'm at a red carpet, I need to be

1173
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: with somebody that can walk up to a producer and

1174
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: be like, hey, this is my talent Portia Coleman. You

1175
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: can see her on this and this and that. Let's talk.

1176
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: Let's talk about you getting her in your next project. Yeah,

1177
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: I need that. Or just my mom coming to hang

1178
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: out and just smile at people and there's no disrespect

1179
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: to her. I know what she likes, and I realized

1180
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: that's what she's happy doing. But I realized that it

1181
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: was costing me financially by just bringing her as a

1182
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: guest to hang out versus somebody that could read.

1183
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: You need to maximize this.

1184
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: You got to maximize the time because this window can

1185
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: be so fast and so quick. So I think it

1186
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: was a.

1187
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: Good business move, good business, and it's not to take personally.

1188
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: Nothing but speaking of good business moves, hello, let's go

1189
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: closer to some of the bigger, bigger, big biggest. Come

1190
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: on now, biggest move. Let's get close to your newest

1191
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: BT plus with Tyler Perry. I want to know how

1192
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: wind where? How did it all come about. I've had

1193
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: a couple people on the show that have worked with

1194
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: Tyler ive heard nothing but rave reviews and surprising paychecks

1195
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: that lives. Hello, it's not on the thing. He likes

1196
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: to just surprise people with paychecks at yeah point, I

1197
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: know that story you're talking about too.

1198
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 2: You do which one the one story where he surprised

1199
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: people with bonuses? Oh? He was s well, I know

1200
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: a couple of stories.

1201
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: Well, I know we haven't released this one. But the guy,

1202
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: this particular actor had said, well, I guess by the

1203
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: time your episode, but he had said that, you know,

1204
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: he went in at a five thousand dollars pay rate.

1205
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: Wow, and it.

1206
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: Was like the lowest he had ever made whatever mm hmm.

1207
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: And then I was like, damn, he's gonna in my head,

1208
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: I was like, he's going to edit this out. He's

1209
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: definitely going to edit it out, and he didn't you

1210
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: know why, because his surprise was that Tyler Perry ended

1211
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: up giving him six figures at the end.

1212
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: Come on, and I was like, dang, listen, I think

1213
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: for sure that shows what dedication looks like. Because I

1214
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: love my career so much. I've only been singing, acting,

1215
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 2: dancing since the day I was born and came out.

1216
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: I would do this for free because I love it.

1217
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: I love that I would do it for free. So

1218
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: to know that I can look and cut a check

1219
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 2: and be like what officer all I could do for free?

1220
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: To work like ten hustles is a beautiful thing. And

1221
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: I can honestly say I've never had a nine to five.

1222
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: I've never clocked in a job. I've never done that.

1223
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: I sing, I act, I dance, I host, I do voiceovers,

1224
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: video going and I've been working a whole life. And

1225
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 2: that's again, I'm not gonna say that's a trauma response.

1226
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: That's just me. I learned that I love to do

1227
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: what I do. I don't drink, I don't smoke. I'm

1228
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: I'm out here. Yeah, So I love what I do.

1229
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 2: But when you cross pass with someone like a Tyler Perry.

1230
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: If I can look at your story from sleeping in

1231
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: your car to get in your play, to getting your

1232
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: play financed, to get in your play on tour, to

1233
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: where now you have a network who gives you astronomical

1234
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: amounts to put our people in position to be starring

1235
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: on shows when twenty years ago there was not really

1236
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: all black lead shows. You had the Cosby's, then you

1237
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 2: started remember when UPN popped up? Do y'all really remember UPN?

1238
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: That's when The Parkers was on, but you got one

1239
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: on one the Parkers school Boys in Outer Space, Moesha,

1240
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: We at one point did not have all black lead

1241
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: shows by other period. Right now is literally doing something incredible,

1242
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: Like he said to the BT was we're all sitting

1243
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 2: there watching he said, I have made more millionaires black

1244
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: millionaires on TV than anybody. Because he's right. If you're

1245
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: gonna sit there and take a five thousand dollar check

1246
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: knowing that you've gotten paid more, but you're willing to

1247
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: come to work and bust your ass, Tyler is gonna

1248
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 2: bless you and do that. Because I remember just thinking

1249
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: like I've never auditioned for Tyler, I'd never been in

1250
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: front of him. I was like, dang, if I get

1251
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: that opportunity, I just hope it's it. The first time

1252
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: I was in front of Tyler Perry, I got it.

1253
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: Tell me about it, tell me how you got this.

1254
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: It's I'm me a whole backstory.

1255
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I mean, it's fast. If anybody knows about

1256
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: self tapes twenty twenty COVID, everything shuts down, so nobody's

1257
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: really in rooms anymore. So they say, hey, here's the audition,

1258
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: here's a size, put yourself on tape, find a reader.

1259
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: Mind you got to find a reader, set your camera up,

1260
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: set your lighting up, and do all of this stuff

1261
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: by yourself in your house. Okay, So mind you. It

1262
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: gets overwhelming a lot of times because you got to

1263
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: find people that's available to do that when you got

1264
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: an audition in twenty four hours self taped. Remember Clearsday,

1265
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: I got to shout my girl out. I love her

1266
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: to death. Doctor Schammel Bell very accomplished. She helped start

1267
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: the Black Lives Matter movement. She used to be a

1268
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: she said doctor. She does everything. But she was out

1269
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: and about in LA. I said, girl, you got a

1270
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: second can you come cel tape for me? And she

1271
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, sure, whatever you need. I got the

1272
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: audition for Tiffany. So if you guys watching the show,

1273
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 2: the girl Tiffany has the big curly the real name

1274
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: is our girl Brianna, and I auditioned for that. I

1275
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: put it on tape. Forty eight hours later, my agent

1276
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: called and was like, hey, you got a call back

1277
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh great. They say they're gonna

1278
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 2: send us the details and I'm like, oh, mind you.

1279
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 2: I'm thinking Tyler's in Atlanta because I sell tape.

1280
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: And Tyler Perry.

1281
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it clearly said. The reason why I knew

1282
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: is because it clearly came out as Divorced Sisters. Mind you,

1283
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, bt. Plus, I watched Sisters. They're nine seasons

1284
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: in Divorce Sisters. I'm like, not a new franchise. Oh

1285
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: So I told my agent, push for this. I said,

1286
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: I know the casting director shout out to Kim Coleman,

1287
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: love you too. I called her like cousins. We have

1288
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: the same last name. I said, please push for this

1289
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: because I think I'd be great for this and this

1290
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: is the role of Tiffany. Go in. Send the cell tape.

1291
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: Two days later, Tyler Perry's going to be at the

1292
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: audition nine in the morning off a sunset boulevard. I'm like,

1293
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: I'm waking up at six in the morning. This this

1294
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: is doing no, this was this was at the top

1295
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: of the year. Right now we're only in July. We've

1296
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: shot this show in March.

1297
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, you send in yourself.

1298
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about during COVID is when they don't

1299
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 2: go an audition way. So that's why when you said

1300
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: the process that the process wasn't seeing Tyler first. It

1301
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: was me putting my cameras, my lightnings up, looking at

1302
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: the scene and reading with my friend off camera and

1303
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: just sending in and hoping I get a call. Forty

1304
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: eight hours later, I got that call. H Tyler Perry's

1305
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: going to be at the space off a sunset in person,

1306
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, so mind job. I'm like, okay, I

1307
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: already got my size memorized what to expect. I'm like,

1308
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: let's go walk in the room. There's like one hundred

1309
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: people in the waiting room.

1310
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, how do you feel in those moments?

1311
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: And that's what actors again, you know, you walk in

1312
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: the room and you're like, oh, back to these days

1313
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: when you're seeing every girl in the room, I'm seeing guys.

1314
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know who's audition for this part,

1315
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: but you have to tune it out.

1316
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the girl. You guys ever become buddies in

1317
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: those scenarios.

1318
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 2: Oh No. When I walked in, I literally saw four

1319
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: girls I knew. Okay, I knew him. I was like, oh,

1320
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: this is the girl. I played a sister with her

1321
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 2: on a movie. I knew my homegirl from Bee Valley.

1322
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: I knew people in the room, but at that point, honestly,

1323
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 2: just with me, it's like, you're not friends in that moment. Yeah,

1324
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: because I can walk up to you, but ha's your mom?

1325
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: How's all this? We got a job to do. So

1326
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: the first thing I do is I went to sign

1327
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: in make sure they knew I was there. I went

1328
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: out to the hallway and I literally was in the

1329
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: elevator because I'm like the chatter sometimes people like you

1330
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: talk in all the rooms. I need to be trying

1331
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: to focus. I'm trying to be focused. I'm like, I

1332
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: got an audition to be with Tyler Perry in front

1333
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: of a series regular. I need to be focused. So

1334
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: I remember being a hallway. It was like nine o'clock,

1335
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: nine thirty. They said, oh, portion, you're on deck, and

1336
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'm on deck.

1337
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: Wait before you get into there. When you say focused, now,

1338
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: is that when you do? I mean I see a

1339
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: lot of actors do this or like the bigger ones

1340
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: than be like I was in that whole role during

1341
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: the whole taping.

1342
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no, that's one by the time

1343
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: you get it. But I'm talking about the time when

1344
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: you're in the audition room. You gotta book it before

1345
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: you can get to set. I'm not thinking about working

1346
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: on set. I'm thinking Tyler Perrent.

1347
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, when you're doing that focus, are you in

1348
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: yeahfter or are you just memorizing my line?

1349
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: My mind? What I do and this is a hack

1350
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: for me, I put my ear pods in, okay, and

1351
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: I play music because again, if someone's in the hallway

1352
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: talking and right now, if I'm trying to study, to

1353
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 2: go knock out this scene where I got to mind

1354
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: you the scene is eight pages. Eight page is long?

1355
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: You got to memorize in front of Tyler Perry. I

1356
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: don't want to hear old girl talking about Oh my god,

1357
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: girl so good to see you. Guess, well, how's your

1358
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that air pods are in.

1359
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: I'm down the hallway by the elevator, so I don't

1360
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: got to hear that. That's my process. So by the

1361
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: time they said you're on deck, I'm like, okay, I

1362
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: gotta come close, gotta come close. Take out the ear pods,

1363
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: put it in, put my purse to aside, be like, okay,

1364
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: go on in the room. Go on in the room.

1365
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: I see like five people in their cameras. Tyler's right there.

1366
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm talking about you. He's right at the head of

1367
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: the table. His head is down. He's not even looking

1368
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: at me though, and I'm like, okay, I walk in.

1369
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: His head is down, he looks up. He says, okay,

1370
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: you ready, all right, let's go. That was it, and

1371
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, cool, mind you no conversation. What's

1372
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: your name? I'm like, okay, cool. He wanted to go

1373
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: right into it. We go write into it. Next thing

1374
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: you know, I started delivering the scene. Okay, thirty second

1375
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: ten he does this like stop and I'm like, oh shit, girl,

1376
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: exactly what I said. Oh shit. He was like, thank you,

1377
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: thank you. He said that was really good, by the way,

1378
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 2: but I need to read for the role in Naomi.

1379
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: I was like, oh okay. He was like yeah, so

1380
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: they'll give you the sides outside and just come back

1381
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 2: in the room once you've taken a look at it.

1382
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, sure, wait a minute, so you

1383
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: have like less than a couple of minutes to what I.

1384
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: Was like, Yes, at that point, it's cold reading because

1385
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: mind you, I already had the other scene for over

1386
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: a week. I had a chance to look at it.

1387
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: I knew it. They handed me some new scenes, a

1388
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: whole new character, and I'm like, what's her backstory? Wait?

1389
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: New scenes, so I'm a whole different person.

1390
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: But I'm saying like, you couldn't use the scenes, that.

1391
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: Know, because the scene that I auditioned for is Tiffany.

1392
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: Naomi was not in Jesus, I'm looking at this and

1393
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 2: this is one acting Yet when your bag kicks in,

1394
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 2: when I'm my training since seven, eight, nine, ten kicks in,

1395
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: you gotta look at a scene and deliver it like

1396
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: you are this person in this scenario right in that moment.

1397
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: So first thing they come out and say, as I said,

1398
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: who's Naomi? Who is she? Well, she's got thirty seven

1399
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: million dollars, she just got divorced from her ex husband.

1400
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: She hates him, and now she's mad that her her

1401
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: lawyer homegirl, is not helping her sue him. That's all

1402
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 2: he said to me. And I was like, okay, okay.

1403
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: So the first scene that you see that I walk

1404
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: in on scene one is a scene that I auditioned

1405
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: that where I'm standing by the car, like, what's up?

1406
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 2: Did you look at this lawsuit? What's going on? Yeah?

1407
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 2: And I remember after all of that fifteen twenty minutes

1408
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: walking back in the room and he said the same thing. Okay,

1409
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: you ready, Like it was no conversation, mind you. I

1410
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: have a great memory. So what I usually do is

1411
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 2: when I looked at it, I said, I'll be damn

1412
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: if I'm being in front of Tyler Perry glued to

1413
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: the sides. Hell no, ma'am. I said, I'm gonna look

1414
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 2: at it. I'm gonna know some calling responses, but he

1415
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: gonna get a lot of ad lib and just me

1416
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: feeling this carriage, okay, had to still respect that game.

1417
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 2: Rolled it up, and he was right to the side

1418
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: of me soon as it started. She's supposed to be

1419
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 2: hot that her lawyer's out there. So I said, what's up.

1420
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: You talk to your lawyer, Geneva, what is going on?

1421
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: Tell me? No, hi the baby. She's like, the baby's

1422
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: right here. I'm like, I don't care, Hey, baby, what's

1423
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: up with my lawsuit? Like, and I'm seeing Tyler and

1424
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 2: other people in the room like locked in, but I'm

1425
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: tuning it out because I'm not looking at none of

1426
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: the side. I'm just delivering it. After it was over,

1427
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: Tyler was like that was amazing. He's like, yeah, wait

1428
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: in the lobby said don't go anywhere. And I was

1429
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: like okay, And I was like and I just went

1430
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: for it. And I was like, holy yeah, Like that

1431
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: was yeah.

1432
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: And what are you thinking when he's like waiting the lobby?

1433
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: I want to know what is your emotions?

1434
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: Like, here's the thing. The reason why I'm okay with

1435
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: that is because by this point, it went from a

1436
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: hundred people in the lobby to twenty five. Okay, so

1437
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: the lobby was getting empty do so I'm like, Okay,

1438
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: he didn't ask me to come back in, so he's

1439
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: not mixing and matching. I'm still waiting ten people in

1440
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: the lobby and I'm like, Okay, that girl was auditioning

1441
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: for this part, but she's not here for Naomi. Who's

1442
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: she here for? Next thing? I know? It's like ten

1443
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: of us, rob Riley, myself, Breonna Price, Me, DeVaughn, and Kadeen.

1444
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: He's like, everybody, come.

1445
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: In, sorry for Kurt.

1446
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: No, you're good, You're good. We walk in the room

1447
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: and he's like, this looks great. He said, this is

1448
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: the cast right here. This looks amazing. He said, all right, guys,

1449
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: well congratulations and get ready to work your ass off.

1450
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: We'll be doing about two three weeks in Atlanta, and

1451
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: get ready. Our agents and Lawy's will be in contact.

1452
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: And I was like, mind you. We was from nine

1453
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: am to like three hours at this point, I'm like,

1454
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: holy holy what And just like that.

1455
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: Were y'all all like high five and each other hugging.

1456
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: Of course because he because here's the thing and this

1457
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: is what Tyler said. He was like, y'all can relax

1458
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: now you're not auditioning no more. And we were all like,

1459
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: oh thank you God. We were all like standing there

1460
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: in a lineup, like what do we do like and

1461
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: Tyler was like, y'all can relax, Like y'all good, And

1462
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: I was like, mister Perry, You're like it was like

1463
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: a moment where we were all like we made the cut.

1464
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: Wow.

1465
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: And it was in person. So I always had oh

1466
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: my gosh, like the story I was never.

1467
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: Had you told anyone else's story?

1468
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: No good, because like telling these stories is like it

1469
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: helps actors understand or people that are not even actors

1470
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: to know the processes that we go through. And why

1471
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: I talked about, let's say, the traumas and stuff that

1472
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: happened before, because yeah, I was dealing with all kinds

1473
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: of stuff, but when you walk in that audition room

1474
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: or when you're walking in to do your job, all

1475
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: that has to go out the door in the window

1476
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: that morning stuff was going on. I was like, do

1477
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: I feel okay? Like you're nervous, you're like thinking about

1478
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: your personal life, but then you're also thinking about what

1479
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: I got to go do. If I'm over here worried

1480
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: about what's going on with my personal life, I got

1481
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 2: to make sure my next job is landed. Which is

1482
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: why I said, sometimes you have to know where to

1483
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: place people, whether it's also your family, because your family

1484
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: could be just as toxic as people that aren't you

1485
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: got to place that in a box and still be

1486
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: able to perform and do your job. Because that's what

1487
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: mattered when I walked in that room. I booked a

1488
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: job and I literally cried. Once I got into the car,

1489
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh my god.

1490
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: And who is the first person you called?

1491
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: Again? It wasn't. I didn't even talk to my family.

1492
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: The first person I called was my aunt And the

1493
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: second person I called was my friend who helped me

1494
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: do the cel tape. Wow, and I called. And that's

1495
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: the thing. It's like, your friends can become your family.

1496
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: And I have a great family. I have a huge family. Like,

1497
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I'm really close to it to

1498
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: several members of my family. It's just at this time

1499
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: it's just my mother and my brother. I'm not because

1500
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: I needed the support in a different way, and the

1501
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: way they wanted to have me support them, it wasn't

1502
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 2: going to happen.

1503
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: Well that and in that moment, you need all positive energy.

1504
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: And if you know your people and you put them

1505
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: in their proper place, you know who to call.

1506
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: You know, you know what I'm saying, like, if I

1507
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: know I need to get hyped, if I'm going to

1508
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: the gym, I'm putting all my ying yang, I'm putting

1509
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: on some CARDI I know the vibe I want to

1510
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, anybody know me knows

1511
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: I will be some checking like assault, shaker, whistle while

1512
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: and a heartbeat because their and they get you. They

1513
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: get you right. But if I know I'm trying to

1514
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 2: wind down on the night where I had a long day, Baby,

1515
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: I need someone, need a baker. Okay, I need some

1516
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: card up in the rapture, I need some Oh my god,

1517
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: I love her like she's one of my favorite artists ever.

1518
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: So I have moments and vibes that I go through.

1519
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: But you know where people you want to talk to,

1520
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: You know when a moment happens, like who do I

1521
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: want to call? Who do I want to be there

1522
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: for me? So I'm so glad that, like I said,

1523
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: I have amazing support systems, and I keep a small circle,

1524
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: and I do hope at some point my mom and

1525
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: my brother and all of us can talk. But I

1526
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: knew that for me to do the job that I

1527
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: needed to do, and this is even prior to this one,

1528
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 2: I had to create the space in the distance. If

1529
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: I told you what I need. If it just takes

1530
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: going to a therapy session that's really talking out what happens,

1531
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: and you guys are refusing to do that, that's fine.

1532
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: I can't force you, but I can also remove my

1533
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: presence and know that my piece has to be maintained

1534
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: because I need to be hurt. And being the younger

1535
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: the two, I was never getting hurt.

1536
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: Now are you in a place? And this is something

1537
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: I've been kind of self discovering a little bit too.

1538
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: I like everyone in my circle to feel safe to

1539
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: advocate for themselves. Oh, I love that, you know what

1540
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like if we disagree, you should still feel

1541
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: comfortable to advocate for yourself, Like you shouldn't feel like

1542
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: i'mly gonna shut it down or yeah, I'm gonna shut

1543
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: it down, like we're gonna disagree. But and I feel

1544
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: like you're at that place of like I'm gonna continue

1545
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: to advocate for myself.

1546
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: Right without question. Yeah, you have to self advocate for

1547
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: someone to respect you. And that's the difference I had

1548
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: to learn, Like, of course, if my mom is thirty five,

1549
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: my brother's fifty six, and here I am eighteen years

1550
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 2: younger than them. I was already the little young one

1551
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: of the bunch. Yeah, young siblings never get respect.

1552
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: Let's be real, they I wrong. I know my little

1553
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: brother gets you know what I'm saying. He started advocating

1554
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: firm you have to and let me tell you something.

1555
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: I shout out to a little bit of work. It

1556
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: worked because we definitely know, like when he talks, we

1557
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: have to listen.

1558
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 2: No don'ing's wrong is gonna let You're gonna let older

1559
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: siblings have that inside. But like I'm a older sibling,

1560
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: like you whatever when I tell you, my brother always

1561
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: told me that you ain't been through shit, And I'm like, okay,

1562
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: but I'm trying to tell you from my perspective what.

1563
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: I feel and what does he also advocate for your

1564
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: mom to like you know, I understand her kind of

1565
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: it was.

1566
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: It was a standpoint of like them right in the

1567
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: fence of like you know again, I was always the

1568
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: middle person. My mom is like oil and my my

1569
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 2: brother's like the water, and then when you put them together,

1570
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 2: just don't always mix it. I was always that middle

1571
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: person that's creating the peace between their disagreements. So the

1572
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: moment I started had my own voice and saying this

1573
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: is how I feel that. It's like, but you're not

1574
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: on my side. I t I hated hearing if I

1575
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: would disagree about something. She said, No, you're supposed to

1576
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: stay with me. I'm your mother. Yeah, but that doesn't

1577
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: mean that I have to agree with you. That old

1578
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 2: school mindset, and I I've done so much healing on

1579
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: it and studying of what it is. People are fixing

1580
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 2: their own ways a lot of times, so where they

1581
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 2: can't break that the idea ideology of what they feel.

1582
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to debate her on what she feels.

1583
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 2: But I'm also not going to get downplayed and like,

1584
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: f you you don't know what you're talking about yet,

1585
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: But you call me for everything. You call me to

1586
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 2: take care of you. You call me because you know

1587
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: I know everything about the computers, I know everything about technology.

1588
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 2: But you need my help all the time. So don't

1589
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: act like you need my help but you don't want

1590
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: to listen to me.

1591
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now with the Bore sisters, Yes, you guys all

1592
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: have a very nice chemistry going. Yes, which you don't

1593
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, you don't see that a lot in the industry.

1594
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: It looks like it definitely carries off camera.

1595
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: Yes, let's thousand percent, we ally was out there. Like

1596
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 2: I said, three weeks. The first week, we all just bombed.

1597
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 2: We all got together, We went to bars, we went

1598
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 2: to eat, we hung out. And I already knew LaToya

1599
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: because we did a BT plus movie we played best friends.

1600
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 2: LaToya had already knew several of the girls, like Geneva

1601
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 2: and Latoy already knew each other, Kadeen and Breonna, like

1602
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: everybody had kind of somehow knew each other in a way.

1603
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: So it was perfect. And when we locked in, if

1604
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 2: we're looking at the story saying we got to be

1605
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: friends for twenty years, we really got to come like

1606
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: and had little things. So even as a scene in

1607
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: like episode two, I think that I love with me

1608
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: and Brianna in the kitchen, and I'm telling it like

1609
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: it is, like, girl, you need to love again. When's

1610
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 2: the last time you let a nigga to be with you?

1611
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: Excuse me, but when's the last time you've been with

1612
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: a man in a kind of way? Because you'll be

1613
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: here judging me because I'm stuck on my ex husband.

1614
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: But you ain't even had a chance to be willing

1615
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: to go date somebody because your trauma and she has

1616
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 2: a moment where she's like, you're right, I haven't been

1617
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: able to let go. And in that moment me and her,

1618
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: I was like, we need to have a thing. Are

1619
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: we gonna do this? We're gonna pump? What is gonna

1620
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 2: be our little thing? So every one of us have

1621
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: a thing that we ended up doing on camera organically

1622
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: that we thought about to be like how wore me

1623
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: and you interact what we do? Me and her are

1624
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: both dancers, so we were always gonna do like some

1625
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: dance stuff like that's our connection. So the connection that

1626
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: you see on camera is very real. The support is there.

1627
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 2: We have a group chat. It's called Divorced and we

1628
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 2: said that like people ask, so we chat each other.

1629
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: We're always like saying, girl, that scene you did was

1630
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: so powerful.

1631
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: Now have you guys ever rallied against Tyler?

1632
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: Hilarious?

1633
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: Never never guess, never talked back nothing, no, no.

1634
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: Like I no, because honestly, Tyler is like and you

1635
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 2: never know is when you have somebody like Tyler, you

1636
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: write direct produce, you thinking you gotta be every line

1637
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 2: must be perfect. When I tell you Tyler, lets you go, Tyler,

1638
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: let you go. Like there's one time I remember one

1639
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: word and I'll say this. Okay, we're just pointing. I

1640
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: was like, ooh, did I tear it? I said, like,

1641
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: because this character cusses a lot, she will say and

1642
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: this is this is literally in the script, so it's

1643
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: like she is that expressive type of person. Will she'll

1644
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: say certain words, and I remember I put God in

1645
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: front of one of the words, so let's just say

1646
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: this God damn. I didn't know that that was going

1647
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: to be a problem because I'm like goddamn and that

1648
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: kind of way. He's like, no, we don't come byd

1649
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 2: God in a curse word. No. I was like, sorry,

1650
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: mister Perry, Okay, we'll go back and do that one

1651
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: line again. And that's I'm like, okay, cool. Because Tyler

1652
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 2: is a god fearing man, I'm a godfair a woman.

1653
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, my bad, I'm in the scene

1654
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: so much. I'm over saying yeah there. He's like, no, no,

1655
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 2: So we've never banned against someone that knows what he's doing. Again,

1656
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: if you look at.

1657
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: All, then nothing set him up said it up.

1658
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: I would listen. Tyler took us to his house. Baby.

1659
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: When I tell you, first of all, we were all

1660
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: having too much pun over there. It's a brunch. How

1661
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 2: about just getting to the house, sweetie? When I said, I.

1662
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: Would have done it in front of him though, you know,

1663
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: Justler's so fun.

1664
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: Tyler's a guy who'd be like, I want to hurt him.

1665
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: Get done so I can go drink later. Like Tyler's

1666
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: mad cool. But when I tell you when we all

1667
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 2: got the invite, I'm talking about the Sunday before we

1668
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: started working on a Monday, Tyler's like, so you're going

1669
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: to be getting a call about coming to my house

1670
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 2: for brunch. And we were like, you're kidding. Right When

1671
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: I tell you, they sent personal cars to come pick

1672
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 2: us up. The ride from his gate to get to

1673
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,439
Speaker 2: his house was like four miles.

1674
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: No way.

1675
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: How big was the house?

1676
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: Was that dcastle?

1677
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: Okay? This is the best O times ten. The best

1678
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 2: way I could say it is there's a scene in

1679
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: one of my favorite movies, john Wick, one of the

1680
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 2: last John Wick movies, when they have this big fight

1681
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: on the staircase. When they're fighting. The house that you

1682
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 2: see in john Wick literally looks like the house that

1683
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 2: we were at with Tyler. It's it's not even it's

1684
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: it looks like a stage It's like, what is this

1685
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 2: freak out helicopter plane?

1686
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: It's helicopter plane and plane.

1687
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: He has a plane?

1688
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: Yo, just shout up. I'm gonna tell you this. I'm

1689
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: gonna speak this into existence. Eating while broke will do

1690
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: a Tyler Perry MTV Cribs version of eating while broo.

1691
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be fun to go into his mansion with

1692
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: his planes.

1693
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: And somebody see it. I'm just saying he has a plane.

1694
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 2: To know that you can chart a plane just to

1695
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: go eat with your friends, because I know other friends

1696
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:25,879
Speaker 2: that really don't.

1697
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: See a plane like a helicopter plane or like a treaty,

1698
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: like a plane that's sitting.

1699
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 2: United Airlines Southwest. That's a plane.

1700
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: Get the freak out? Did you at least did you

1701
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: at least say hey, can I go check it out?

1702
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 2: God? No, that's that's doing too much, you know, eating

1703
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 2: while broke. I would have been like, let me get

1704
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: you a plane ride to first day before filming? Oh yeah, yeah,

1705
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: to get fired before first day. I'm not trying to

1706
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: be too personal like that, but the fact that he

1707
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 2: has a plane in his house again, I'm thinking of

1708
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: what was he eating while he was broke? Because he

1709
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: was sleeping in his car.

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01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went before he.

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 2: Even had a chance to have these plays. And again

1712
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: an opportunity where he's giving us money to come to set,

1713
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: which his studio is like nothing you've ever seen either.

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01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard it.

1715
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's incredible. Just so, just so you know,

1716
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: he has an exit off the freeway. Why are you

1717
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 2: driving in Atlanta, it says Tyler Perry Studios. That's the

1718
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: exit you get off.

1719
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: As like, so, when you're working with him, do you

1720
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: feel extremely motivated that the sky's the limit now after

1721
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: experiencing all.

1722
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 2: That, absolutely, so you okay, And just so people know,

1723
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 2: we shot sixteen episodes in eight days.

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01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard, I heard a shoot schedule.

1725
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: I heard.

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01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot. Let me tell you something. People

1727
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 1: I've been saying, like they shoot in a week or

1728
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: two weeks or under two weeks.

1729
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: That's real. It was supposed to be ten days and

1730
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: we ended up losing a day because of one location issue,

1731
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: and then the other day we finished the day early.

1732
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: We shot eight days, sixteen whole episodes. Imagine how many

1733
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 2: paid a day you had to do.

1734
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: And you guys got paid a lot too.

1735
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: I mean you get paid well, yeah, very well. But

1736
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's like, even if

1737
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: you didn't get paid for three weeks of your time, yeah,

1738
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 2: that's all I know to do other things. No, let

1739
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 2: me be real, it was great. What I'm saying is

1740
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: that how quick it is to make what you make

1741
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 2: in those three weeks with Tyler Perry, someone would have

1742
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: to work a whole year. Oh wow, yeah, yeah, more

1743
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 2: well more than that.

1744
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:13,560
Speaker 1: That.

1745
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 2: The the salary and the minimum wage is is what

1746
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 2: it is. You would have to be working several years

1747
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: to get what you can get in three weeks from him,

1748
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: because he expects you to come prepared. He expects you

1749
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: to do the work.

1750
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 1: Obviously, you're not late.

1751
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: No one's late, girl, Tyler Perris never late. That's one thing.

1752
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: Anyone late to say.

1753
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 2: Ever, yeah what somebody was sick one of the days,

1754
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 2: But again that's that's that's sick. But no, I mean,

1755
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: stuff happens by the end of the day. Tyler's such

1756
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 2: a professional. He's like, we're gonna move this scene to

1757
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: the end of the day. We're gonna move this scene

1758
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: over here. He's not gonna lose no time. I like,

1759
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: he's not gonna lose no time.

1760
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: I like him, so we got to close this interview out.

1761
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: I have so much fun with you. I love that

1762
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: you opened up the way he did. I feel like

1763
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 1: we're sisters.

1764
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 2: I love it.

1765
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for feeding me. Come on, you

1766
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna finish.

1767
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 2: Just lasting bits that we're gonna put our bite together,

1768
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 2: all right, Let's put together, all right? Why tuning in

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01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: Eating all Broke?

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