1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's us and we're here to talk to 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: you about get this our book. We have a Stuff 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: you Should Know book coming out this November and you're 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: going to love it, and you can preorder it now. 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: That's try it. It's called Stuff you Should Know Collen, 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: an incomplete compendium of mostly interesting things, and it's been 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: a lot of fun to work on and we're really, 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean genuinely excited about how this thing has come together. Yep. 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: It's twenties six chunky Harry chapters that are just going 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: to knock your socks clean off. And yes, Chuck, we 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: are indeed proud of this book. It is truly, indubitably 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: the first Stuff you Should note book and it's coming 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: out this November and you can order it now, pre 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: order everywhere you get books, So do that, and we 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: thank you in advance. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, Jerry's out there somewhere which makes this Stuff 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: you should ass Oh yeah, old school insect a dish 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: from Robert Lamb. I know it's it's got mouth parts 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: in it, but it's no Tracy Wilson joint, but it's 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: still good. It's super charming. It starts Robert starts this 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: article out from the perspective of a spider who has 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: been dragged into a wasps nest and is about to 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: be eaten alive by a wasp larva. It's pretty interesting. 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: So it's a good article, I guess, is what I'm 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: trying to say. And if you are not familiar with 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: Robert Lamb, then friends, you are missing out on not one, 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: but two, no three, really great podcast that that guy 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: has put out. Um, what is it? Stuff to blow 31 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: your mind? Of course, the the stalwart science tech, well 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: that tech sort of science plus show. Yes, yeah, yeah, 33 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: in depth like super deep rabbit hole interesting stuff. And 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: then um uh he did one called trans Human. Yeah, 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: that's a action scripted sci fi very cool. Yeah. And 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: then also he and Joe who he does stuff to 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: blow your mind with, also do Invention too, which is 38 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: kind of in depth rabbit whole thing about invention. So 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: check all those out, everybody. Yeah, it was fun to 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: kind of get back to basics with a nice little 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: insect cast on wasps and dude, I went outside today 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: on my side deck to let the dogs out, and 43 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: low and behold, I looked what I was? You said, 44 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: who let the dogs out? Sorry, you said let the 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: dogs out? So I had to. I thought I had. 46 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: I thought you were saying wait, wait wait, No, no, 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: I was saying, woo woo woo woo. Oh boy, there 48 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: was a waspiness on the ground. Okay, good, all right, 49 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: that's sorry. Did I I knocked the legs out from 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: under that story? It's just a wasp nest. But it 51 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: was you know, the timing was alive. Oh I didn't 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: poke it to see it. It was. It was not attached. 53 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: I think it had fallen. So my guess is that 54 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: it did not have any more wasps residing in it. Man, 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: that's gotta be a real letdown, because it's the middle 56 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: of summer right now, so they're they're wanting to like grow. 57 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: There was probably larva in there. Yeah, that's that's really weird. 58 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: They must have abandoned it then, Yeah, and wasps are 59 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: you know. I think, you know, everyone loves the bees 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: now because they should because bees are awesome and bees 61 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: produce honey, and we want bees to stick around. But 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: I think wasps and hornets, which are a type of 63 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: wasps uh are still just so maligned, and they're the 64 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: ones that people will reach for their can of raid 65 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: to spray and no qualm. Yeah, and you shouldn't. Don't 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: do it. Let the wasp live. I'll go ahead and 67 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: say it. Now, we're gonna say a bunch, but let 68 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: him live. Totally chuck, thank you. Yeah, we're here to 69 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: open everyone's eyes to the function and purpose of wasps existence. 70 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: They're not like mosquitoes. Remember in the Mosquitoes episode, we 71 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: basically can aluded that there's no reason for mosquitoes around 72 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: and they just are terrible. Um. Wasps are not like that. 73 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: And I think Robert does a really good job basically 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: pinning down why wasps get such a bad rap. One 75 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: is that there stings peck such a wallop compared to 76 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: other stinging insects. And we'll talk about their there's stings 77 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: in the venom that goes along with it um, which 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: is so okay, that's fair, Like nobody wants to be 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: stung by a wasp. It's really it can ruin your day. Um. 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: And then also the other thing is is that the 81 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: if you pay attention to wasps, you realize that they 82 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: live these really brutal, grizzled existences. Their their predators, and 83 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: in fact, in their habitats they're apex predators. They're like 84 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: sharks and lions, but for the bugs and um, sometimes 85 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: small animals that live around there. Like, I didn't watch 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: any of the videos that I could have because I'm 87 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: just really over animal death, even if it's nature. Um, yeah, 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I was when I was doing the End of the 89 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: World with Josh Clark, Like I went into it just 90 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: feeling fine about that. That's just nature, that's the way 91 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: things work. And then one of the guys I talked 92 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: to is David Pierce, who you and I talked to 93 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: actually first in our super Stuff Guide to Happiness, but 94 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: I went back and interviewed him, and his whole jam 95 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: is like we could actually eventually engineer the biosphere so 96 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: that there isn't any suffering among animals, and like what 97 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: we take is natural isn't necessarily have to be that way. 98 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: And it's really changed how I view like violence, even 99 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: among animals. So anyway, the upshot is I didn't watch 100 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: any videos, but one of the ones that I saw, 101 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: the title was wasp kills baby bird. So that video 102 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: is out there if you want to see that, but 103 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: I just can't. I don't. I don't like to see 104 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: that stuff anymore, you know. I mean I didn't really 105 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: like enjoy it before, but now it just downright bothers me. Yeah, 106 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: I get it. That's I live with a person who 107 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: can't watch anything like that, so I get it. Yeah. 108 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: So there are more than twenty thousand species of wasp. 109 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: And like I said, hornets are a kind of wasp. 110 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: So if you here, I mean you would call a 111 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: hornet a hornet, but you can't necessarily use them interchangeably. 112 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: But a hornet is a wasp. And uh, there's a 113 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: lot of you know, over that twenty thou species. There 114 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: are a lot of different kinds and a lot of 115 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: variety as far as what they look like and what 116 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: they're shaped like, and what color they are and how 117 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: they like to live their life. But as with every 118 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: insect cast, we're gonna go over those body parts and 119 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: mouth parts is in there somewhere, and it starts with exoskeleton, 120 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: just like all the little insect buddies have that kitan exoskeleton, 121 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: and in the case of the wasp. They are very 122 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: segmented out. They have three segments. They get your head, 123 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: which has got those uh antenna, the sensory antenna. You 124 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: have those mouth parts because they lick and they bite, 125 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: and then you have the very cool looking compound eyes 126 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: and simple eyes, these sort of kidney shaped eyes of 127 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: a wasp that are very sort of signature. Where are 128 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: they known as in your Italian accent? Oh? Silly? So 129 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: if in the Italian if a vowel follows a C, yeah, 130 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: it makes a chest sound. If a C is followed 131 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: by an H, it makes a cuss sound. So is 132 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: this really pronounce Acelli? Yeah? Okay, I think in in 133 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: like among biologists they probably say oh sally. But since 134 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: you were doing the accent, sure, I wanted to set 135 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: you up for a lesson in its appreciate that. Um. Okay, 136 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: So you've got the head, has some eyes, also has 137 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: a brain chuck um, which I saw. Supposedly, wasps are 138 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: among the smarter insects out there. They can recognize each 139 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: other by face by facial markings. Did you know that 140 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: they Steve? Are you doing sting anyone? I'm doing okay, Ted? 141 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for asking. It just killed the baby bird. Some 142 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 1: weirdo was was filming it and put it on the internet. Well, actually, 143 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: Steve would say, no, I didn't sting anyone because I'm 144 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: a man and I don't sting. Uh oh yeah, that's 145 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: a really great point, chuck um, which we'll talk more 146 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: about later. You'd find the stinger in the abdomen, which 147 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: is the third part, the lowest part of the wasp body, 148 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: but only in a female, which I think this is 149 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: true for for bees too, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, 150 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't remember. We've done a lot of good beat stuff. Uh. 151 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: And then in between those things you've got the thorax, 152 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: which has the six little legs and then those those 153 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: really quick flapping wings. Yeah so um. And in between 154 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: the thorax and the abdomen you have a very narrow waste, 155 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: which usually is what gives away a wasp. You can 156 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: look at it and be like, that's a wasp. Um. 157 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: It's like it's got a corset on. Unless it's a hornet. 158 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: Hornets are much chunkier, more road ton yah um. But 159 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,239 Speaker 1: they are, like you said, a kind of wasp um. 160 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: And actually I think the genus that um hornets fall 161 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: under is called Vespa. And vespa in Italian means wasp, 162 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: So hornets are wasps in Italian. Okay, okay, So I 163 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: think one of the coolest thing about the wasp is 164 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: the history and the evolution of this thing um along 165 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: with some pretty horrific stuff that's gonna follow. But about 166 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: in the Cretaceous period about a hundred million years ago, 167 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: you had to kind of take a snapshot of planet 168 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Earth to understand how the wasp forms. And back then 169 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: they didn't have all these flowering plants that like we 170 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: have now. There were a lot of conifers, and these 171 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: evergreens depended on the wind to spread their seat around. 172 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: They weren't counting on the insects to do this kind 173 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: of thing at this point. And uh and we should 174 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: also mention that ants are a cousin of the wasp, 175 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: which makes sense. They look kind of ant like. Yeah, 176 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: I think they finally figured out that ants um evolved 177 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: out of mud daubers. They're their closest relative, which kind 178 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: of makes sense. I think they have some ant like behavior. Yeah, 179 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: and like, uh so the age of the during the 180 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: Cretaceous period, these wasps were carnivores and they preyed on spiders, 181 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: and other insects, and as plants started to evolve, they 182 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: realized that, hey, there's a lot of insects flying around 183 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: going back and forth, like we're just using the wind 184 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: to carry our seed around. Why don't we Why don't 185 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: we get these insects to work for us basically, and 186 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: they can do the job. Yeah. So that was the 187 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: rise of the angiosperms um, which is you know, whenever 188 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: you think of a flower that the bee visits and 189 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: moves from place to place carrying pollen, that's what an 190 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: angiosperm is um. Rather than having to just depend on 191 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: the wind, you can depend on the insects. And so eventually, 192 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: over time, these wasps, these early predators that used to 193 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: um feed exclusively on other insects, said well, you know 194 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: what this this whole nectar thing and the pollen thing, 195 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: I can get with this. So they started to change 196 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: their diet from um insects to pollen and nectar. But 197 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: the weird thing is is rather than developing a way 198 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: to feed their young from pollen and nectar like honey bees, 199 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: which I think is another reason people like bees and 200 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: don't really realize is it realize it is that um 201 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: they're little vegetarian, vegan animals. You know, they don't hurt anybody. 202 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: They'll they'll defend themselves, but they don't want to go 203 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: hurt anybody. They're very peaceful. Wasps are not like that 204 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: because even though they generally most species of wasps adults 205 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: eat nectar and pollen, they still kill other insects to 206 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: drag back to their nest to feed their young, to 207 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: raise their young on. So wasps are technically omnivores at 208 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: the beginning of their life their carnivores, and then later 209 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: in life they grow into herbivores. Yeah, isn't that amazing? 210 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,119 Speaker 1: It is. Wasps are way more amazing than I realized. 211 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: Should we take a break and talk about their stinger Yes, 212 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: all right, we'll be right back for stinger talk. H 213 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: all right, welcome to stinger talk. I'm Chuck, I'm Josh, 214 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: I'm waiting. No, I'm Ted. I guess it makes me Steve. Yeah, uh, 215 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: washed stings are tough. Um, you kind of mentioned early on. 216 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: It's you know, you get a yellow jacket and that 217 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: that's that doesn't feel great. And obviously we're talking about 218 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: if you're non allergic, and it's not like a legitimate 219 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: threat to your health, and it's just the pain of 220 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: the sting that we're rating here. Yellow jacket sting isn't great, 221 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: but a washting and a hornet sting is really something else. 222 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: It's I feel like it. It hurts more and for longer, 223 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: and for good reason, because it actually does. Um like 224 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: b venom is its own thing, shares a lot in 225 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: common with wasp venom. Wasp venom seems to be this 226 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: extraordinarily highly developed, like biological weapon, that is, this cocktail 227 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: of different kinds of compounds that all come together to 228 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: produce a horrible pain sensation that lasts longer and has 229 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: a greater impact on your body than anything the actual 230 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: sting produces. And that's apparently the whole reason behind it 231 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: is it makes the wasp seem way less vulnerable than 232 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: they actually are. It seems like they're way more powerful, 233 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: and for all intents and purposes, they are. But like 234 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: if you if you could take the venom out of 235 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: the sting, the sting would would do basically nothing to you. 236 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: But because that the venom is introduced by that sting, 237 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: that venom is so potent. It's like one of the 238 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: worst things in the world to get stung by a wasp. Yeah, 239 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: and the actual stinger itself was It has a pretty 240 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: remarkable evolutionary story. Uh So, here's what happens. In the 241 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: prehistoric times. This parasitic wasp would use this ovipositor that's 242 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: actually you know, the egg laying organ. They would use 243 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: this pointy thing to lay the egg on a living insect, 244 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: Like they would lay the egg on the caterpillar. Then 245 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: these little larvae would hatch out and then they would 246 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: eat that caterpillar. The larvae would so at some point, 247 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: as things are evolving along, Mother Nature says, you know, 248 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: it would be even better than this is if you 249 00:14:55,200 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: could saw open that caterpillar with this ovipause it or 250 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: and lay eggs inside of this thing. And that's exactly 251 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: what happened, right, um, which made a lot of sense. 252 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of um wasp species, 253 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: there's at least some that still do this, Like rather 254 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: than build a nest, they just go find an insect 255 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: host and lay some eggs on it or lay some 256 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: eggs in it and then just let the larvae eat 257 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: the eat the inside out. But um, most I think 258 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: have evolved to kind of use some different techniques, which 259 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: we'll talk about in a little bit, But the stinger 260 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: itself stuck around even after it stopped being used to 261 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: actually deposit eggs into the insects directly. That's right. Uh. 262 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: And you talked about the venom that's obviously produced in 263 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: the venom gland stored in a little venom sack, a 264 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: little bur lapsack inside the wasp body, and then it 265 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: seeps out. It's got it. It's a barbedlous stinger. It's 266 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: just like a straight, little pointy thing, but it seeps 267 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: out through these little valves and coats the entire stinger. 268 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: And so they store this stinger inside of a sheath 269 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: and are always kind of ready to use it. And 270 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, like we said, it's only the females because 271 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: it was an ovipositor. But the males can pretend like 272 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: like they'll rear their little butt your way and say 273 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: stay away from me. You don't know if I'm a 274 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: male or female. Right, you don't want to look too closely, right, right, 275 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: Which is just hilarious, But it also didn't that show 276 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: like a certain level of intelligence as well. I think so, 277 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: or at the very least, there's too bluff some Yeah, 278 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: the bluff, you know, that's that takes intelligence, um, which 279 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: is I think another another indicator that wasps are amazing. Yeah, 280 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: And like you sort of hinted at the reason this 281 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: venom is so powerful is has as has a couple 282 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: of functions. Is one is just the simple function of 283 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: paralyzing those insects, and the other is as a defense, 284 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: Like it's it's meant to sting something much much larger 285 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: and have that thing hurt so bad that it thinks 286 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: it's hurt a lot worse than it is and like 287 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: just wants to get out of there basically, right. And 288 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: then that combined with um, they're very usually very bright 289 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: colorings because you know, usually the more colorful an animal is, 290 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: the more toxic. It is just kind of a universal 291 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: symbol in nature to just steer clear. Um, And hornets 292 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: and wasps typically are fairly colorful as far as insects go. 293 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: So those two things combined can teach a larger animal 294 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: pretty quickly to just leave them alone. And that's kind 295 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: of how how wasps have have made it this long. 296 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean they've been around for more than a hundred 297 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: million years. You know, Um, that's a pretty successful species. 298 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: Or family of insects. Yeah, and that includes humans. Obviously. 299 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: If you go poking around a hornets nest or washing 300 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: nest and you get stung, you're not going to finish 301 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: the job. You know, You're probably just gonna get out 302 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: of there. Yeah. Yeah, hopefully you can learn your lesson 303 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: that first time, you know, or maybe you don't even 304 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: have to learn it directly, you can just know to 305 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: stay away from the wah. So what's in that venom? 306 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Some really good stuff. I actually found even more stuff 307 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: than Robert included here. There's some peptides and some enzymes um. 308 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: Some of the enzymes include fosseh full pace A and 309 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: B fosse follow pace am bi um and these actually 310 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: break down the membrane and lipid um coating of cells 311 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: in your body to basically spill their guts into your 312 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: blood stream, and that includes neurons. Neural cells can be 313 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: spilled into your blood stream when they encounter this peptide, 314 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: which sends a excruciating pain um notification to your brain 315 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: saying alert Alert, you're in a tremendous amount of pain. 316 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: That's just like step one. Yeah. They also have nora 317 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: and effort in there, which stops the blood flow temporarily. 318 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: And that's why I like that when said it feels 319 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: like it lasts longer. I feel like that's the Nora 320 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: epern nor Eperneffer network because it just sort of sits 321 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: in one place and eventually the bloodstream is going to 322 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: kind of dilude it away, but it kind of hangs 323 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: out there for a little while. Yeah, that's just mean. Um. 324 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: There's also a setyal coline, which actually goes to your 325 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: pain receptors and stimulates them, right. And there's also histamines um. 326 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: And histamines are released by your body. They're they're responsible 327 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: for the inflammatory response, but they also um. The the 328 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: venom in a wasps venom as includes histamines directly to 329 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: just to make sure that it gets that inflammation good 330 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: and good and primed. Yeah. And then there's I was 331 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: hoping you would take this part because of that word. 332 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: You want to try it high Laurona days. Well, I 333 00:19:53,440 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: use hyaluronic acid under my eyes, So what's that. It's like, Uh, 334 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: it's an acid. Um, I don't know, I think for 335 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: bags and it's generally keep yeah yeah, yeah, just to 336 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: keep your eyes looking sharp. I noticed your eyes look 337 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: always look so sharp. I thought I thought you'd notice eventually, So, uh, 338 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: that thing that you just talked about, and then something 339 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: a day m c d P mass cell degranulating peptide. 340 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: This stuff actually melts through the connective tissue between cells 341 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: and basically just sort of it destroys those membranes and 342 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: allows the venom to move a little more freely than 343 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: it would ordinarily. Yeah, and the the mass cell degranulating 344 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: peptide degranulating means that it basically goes to your mass 345 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: cells and squeezes the histamines out of them. So not 346 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: only does it contain histamines already, and not only does 347 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: it trigger a histamine response or release, it goes and 348 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: gets it out of the cells that normally carry your 349 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: around in your in your immune system. Um, so it's 350 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: just really mean nasty stuff. One of the other things 351 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: I saw that they've just started to kind of um 352 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: pay attention to is called Brady Brady kinnan and it's 353 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: associated with chronic pain. So on top of acute pain production, 354 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: they're like, how about a little dose of what it 355 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: feels like they have chronic pain too in the mix 356 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: of all of this stuff. And then Chuck tell me, 357 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: this is an astounding I got a couple more. One 358 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: thing is just called antigen five, which is as cryptic 359 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: as it comes. They don't know exactly what role it plays, 360 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: but they know it's a very powerful allergen. And then 361 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: there's a couple of peptides that are antimicrobial, which prevent 362 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: the wasp from contracting an infection from a prey that 363 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: it's puts its stinger in. Wow. Yeah, and then amazing, 364 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: like this is some amazing stuff. Yeah, and I didn't see. 365 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: I saw that hornets can staying again and again and again, 366 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: but I don't know about the wasp in general. Is 367 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: that the case? Yes, definitely, because the hornet is just 368 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: a type of what so you've got like mud daubers. 369 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: The kind of wasp hornet is a kind of wasp, 370 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: And there's like many types of hornets, but they're all wasps, 371 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: that's right, you know. So, yeah, they can sting again 372 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: and again and again, which apparently is another reason why 373 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: they're sting. Hurts so bad. They can do this to 374 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: you and inject this venom into you. I saw one 375 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: expert interviewed on a different house Stuff Works article that said, 376 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: in average of ten times, like if you get stung 377 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: by wasp, usually you're gonna get stung more than once, 378 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: and it can be ten times, I guess on average. 379 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if they just pull that out of 380 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: the air, but they were a wasp expert, so hopefully not. Well, 381 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's murder hornets that are making the news 382 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: these days in the States. Those things can kill small 383 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: rodents with a full charge of a sting. Right the 384 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: Asian giant hornet, which they found I think I think 385 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: three of them in the Pacific north West that they 386 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: thought they got rid of last year, but it turns 387 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: out they survived the winter a queen did. And um, 388 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: you know, they call the murder hornets because they kill 389 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: bees and those I didn't know this it was a 390 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: big because it was just sort of a backpage thing, 391 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: But in two thousand sixteen, a package of murder hornets 392 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: was intercepted at San Francisco International Airport and they destroyed 393 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: that so it didn't become a thing. But they're a 394 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: real threat to be so that's why people are sort 395 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: of writing about murder hornets now invading as an invasive 396 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: species here in the US. Yeah, And I mean like 397 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: it's really doing an injustice to the hornets unfortunately, because 398 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: calling a murder hornets, like if you read some of 399 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: the articles on it, like people will say outright like, oh, 400 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: they'll they can kill people very easily, and that's just 401 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: absolutely not true, um, and it makes it sound like 402 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: they're a threat to humans. Like you said, the big 403 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: threat is to honey bees, and specifically it's to European 404 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: honey bees because they haven't evolved around um, murder hornets 405 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: or Asian giant hornets. Asian honey bees have and they 406 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: actually have a defense to where when um, the giant 407 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: hornets show up, like you're saying, they just like murder 408 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: hornet is a good term if you're a honey bee, 409 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: because just a few of them showing up at a 410 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: hive can just destroy a colony in a few hours, 411 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: and they do it in a really brutal way. They 412 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: like they decapitate the bees and just kill an entire 413 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: colony in a few hours. And they do it because 414 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: they're one of the few species that that um. They're omnivorous, 415 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: but most of their food comes from meat. They're mostly carnivores, 416 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: so they're eating all these bees. Basically, they they just 417 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: carry your baby right off out of its crib um. 418 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: But they can wipe out a whole colony like this 419 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: if they run into a Asian honeybee colony. Those bees 420 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: have developed a response where they'll swarm around one of 421 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: the Asian giant hornets and they'll flap their wings a 422 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: bunch and generate heat and they'll cook the hornet alive 423 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: inside the swarm that was. That's their defense. European honey bees, 424 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: which make up a lot of the honey bees, most 425 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: of the honey bees in the United States, they don't 426 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: have that defense. So it's a big problem. If the 427 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: Asian giant hornet gets a foothold here, Yeah, and it 428 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: will pack a lot more of a punch to um. 429 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: They have about seven times uh potency as a honey 430 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: bees venom. And as far as the pain scale, they 431 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: likened it getting stung by an murder hornet is they 432 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: likened it to like between three and ten, Like if 433 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: you were to be stung by three to ten yellow 434 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: jackets all at once. So awful because the yellow jackets 435 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: thing is nothing to sneeze at either. That's kind of 436 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: wasp you know. Yeah, I don't get I haven't been 437 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: stung in a long long time, knock would knock on wood. 438 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: I got stung a couple of summers ago. I'm not 439 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: allergic or anything, but you know my story, I told 440 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: it back with the B thing was when I was 441 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: hiking that time and I got tagged eleven times in 442 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: the face and neck when I stumbled. It was one 443 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: of those underground hives that I just walked over, and 444 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: you know, you see two or three bees, You're like, oh, 445 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: what's going on? Then you see tin and then all 446 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: of a sudden that they're everywhere and you're just running 447 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: like a moron through the woods toward the river basically. 448 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I got hit eleven times, and uh, you 449 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: know that could have killed me if I was allergic 450 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere like that. Sure, I 451 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: thought you were allergic, so we just lied on the 452 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: episode of Ye. Yeah, it was painful that there was 453 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: one I think that got the deepest on my eyebrow bone, 454 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: my orbital bone, and it went straight through and I 455 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: could I could almost feel it all my bone, and 456 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: that's the one like A had a hard time getting 457 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: it out. It was so embedded and it felt like 458 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: somebody and I know I used the same analogy back then, 459 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: But it felt like somebody had a tiny little you know, 460 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: little nails you hang pictures with. I felt like somebody 461 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: had that poking that bone and they were just tapping 462 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: it with a hammer in this like regular beat. It 463 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: is awful. It's terrible. Man alive. Yeah, it sounds like 464 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: you stepped on a yellow jacket nest because they nest 465 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: in the ground and they follow you to like they 466 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: were gonna until I got you going. Huh. I think 467 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: we should take a break maybe and talk about nesting 468 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: right after this. Yeah, m hm, okay, chuck. So we're 469 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: moving on from venom. I think we made our point. 470 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Venom from wash is pretty serious. Um, And if you 471 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: want to avoid getting injected with venom from wasps, you 472 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: want to learn to know what a wasp nest looks 473 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: like so you can avoid the wasp nest altogether. Because 474 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: some wasps are more aggressive than others, and if you 475 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: get anywhere near their nest, they're gonna be like, let 476 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: me just give you a little lesson about getting close 477 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: to my nest, and they'll stay sting you right if 478 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: you want to get away. So the um kinds of 479 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: nests that you see um hanging from trees. That's a 480 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of wasp nest. That's paper wasp nest um. There's 481 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: mud dauber nests. There's nests in the ground that are 482 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: yellow jacket nests. Wasps make a bunch of different kinds 483 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: of nests, and for you to survive in the world, 484 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: you have to know what each one looks like and 485 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: be able to sense them out with your your nose. Yeah. 486 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: When I think of of wasp nest and Georgia, at least, 487 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: I think of that honeycomb style where it's just a 488 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: bunch of little tiny holes and it looks like it's 489 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: made out of paper, because it kind of is in 490 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: a way. Yeah, I think those are bald faced um 491 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: hornets or wasps, I can't remember which one. The wasps, 492 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: and they actually chew up would fragments that they'll get from, 493 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: say like your deck or if your kid only has 494 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: those old timey wood toys, they might chew those up 495 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: if they're in the yard. And then they take that 496 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: and turn it into actual pulp like paper, and they 497 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: spit it out and make a basically a paper mache nest, 498 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: which is pretty impressive. But that's why those things look 499 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: like their paper mache because they basically are yeah, and 500 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: they're light like paper machee. Um, and they're fairly intricate 501 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: if you look at them. They have some of them 502 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: have what looks like a little roof eaves. Um. They 503 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: can be there, like I said, super light, so they 504 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: can be dangling from a really small sort of thread like, uh, 505 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know what you would call it, just 506 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: a thread. Yeah, it's sort of like thread. I guess 507 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: suspension cable. Yeah, suspension cable exactly. We'll go with that 508 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: because it sounds like it's a little stirredier. Although is 509 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: that the kind that you found in your yard today? Yeah? 510 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: I found let the dogs out. Yeah, I found one 511 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: of those, uh, laying on the ground when I was 512 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: a kid. You know, the big hornets nest that are 513 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: the big sort of um. Also sort of looks like 514 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: paper machee, but it's more gray and it doesn't have 515 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: the little holes. It's just got one central entry point 516 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: and it's about as big as a football. Yeah. Those 517 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: were sort of like country decor. Did you ever know 518 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: anyone who had one of those in the house? Yes, murderers, 519 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: serial killers, So we had one. My dad climbed up 520 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: a tree to get one of these. It was emptied, 521 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: thank goodness. Uh. And we had that thing, you know, 522 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: mounted on a log above our fireplace for years. Really. Yeah, 523 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: it was weird, that fascinating. Yeah, I don't remember which 524 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: kind that is. And I mean, I've looked at so 525 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: much stuff about wasting. I think it was the white 526 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: faced hornet if I'm not mistaken. Okay, is that who 527 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: it is? All right? You can get pretty big in there. Yes, 528 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: and they're big, um, the like you said, the size 529 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: of a football. Their nests can get pretty big. Um. 530 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, they that's a good one to avoid. I 531 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: didn't realize that they were aggressive. Huh. Yeah, you don't 532 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: want to mess around with one of those nests. You 533 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: don't want to go poking it. From what I saw, 534 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: the mud daubers, which actually make theirs out of mud. 535 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: They're the ones that you know, those tubes that usually 536 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: come down from like the ceiling, down the wall. Those 537 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: are actually mud tubes that the mud dauber has made. 538 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: And mud daubers, we should say, they're basically two kinds 539 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: of wasps in the world. Wasps and hornets, social and 540 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: solitary and solitary is exactly what it sounds like. They 541 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: it's just a single wasp of female living on her own. Um. 542 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: She'll mate with some male wasp and then go off 543 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: make her own nest, either burrowing into the ground or 544 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: if she's a mud daubers, she'll make a mud nest. 545 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: So when you see a mud daubers nest, like stop 546 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: and be like, I respect that because that was made 547 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: by one single wasp on her own with zero help whatsoever. 548 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: She made that nest um, which I just find extremely impressive, 549 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: by chewing up mud and just slowly but surely building it, 550 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: spinning mud out onto the wall. Yeah, and if you're 551 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: a social wasp, you are. It's sort of be like 552 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: and that they're working for the queen. Um maybe more 553 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: than one queen even, But you have these male drones 554 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: that are there to mate, and you have these female 555 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: workers who build the nest and they hunt for food 556 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: and tend to these little larvae. But it's basically all 557 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: about getting the queen to live through the winter to 558 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: the next season. Um. Like, they will all leave the nest, 559 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: and I think I think the queen is the only 560 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: thing that overwinters, Isn't that right, yeah, yeah, the queen. Yeah. 561 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: If they raised queen larvae um, the queen will will 562 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: live until the next winter and start over again, basically 563 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: creating eggs of sterile female workers to help her to 564 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: hatch and then help her build up the hive, raise 565 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: um male drones or now is the drone the worker, 566 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: No drones, the male that's just used for reproduction, right, um, 567 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: and then eventually raise little queens UM. So it's pretty 568 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: pretty interesting, especially as far as like social insects go. 569 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: There are very few species of um social wasps and hornets, 570 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: but the ones they are that are pretty they're they're 571 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: highly social. Even among like social insects, they have pretty 572 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: intricate complex societies like UM. Some of these the social 573 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: wasp nests I think UM, including yellow jackets, will have 574 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: multiple queens and there's one head queen who has basically 575 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: beaten up other queens to establish her dominance, and then 576 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: she'll have the most eggs, and then the next layer 577 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: down will have the second most eggs, and so on 578 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: and so forth. And that takes like a certain amount 579 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: of cooperation to maintain and respect that type of hierarchy, 580 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: to keep that society functioning the way it should, especially 581 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: considering you have to to reinvent the wheel every year 582 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: after winter comes and goes. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, uh. And 583 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: they talk to each other too, in a way. They communicate, 584 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: especially if there's a threat via pheromones. So that's why 585 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: you were more likely to get swarmed rather than just 586 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: like if you're an actual threat to a to a nest, 587 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: they can send a signal that says, hey, everybody, this 588 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: jerk over here has gotta This kid has got a 589 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: stick and he's coming at us. Let's get him. And 590 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: if they if they die, actually they release that. It's 591 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: like a byproduct of their death is releasing that same pheromone. 592 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: Basically they turned into like Harry Dean Stanton in Red 593 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: Dawn where they're like, avenge me. Uh, I guess I 594 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: have that one written. I guess you didn't see the 595 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: video then of the the tarantula hawk, since you're not, no, 596 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: but I've seen one in person. Actually, yeah. The pepsis 597 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: wasp is known as the tarantula hawk because they lay 598 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: eggs inside of a paralyzed tarantula and the larvae eat 599 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: the tarantula from the inside out. And I was like, 600 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta see this, and of course on 601 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: YouTube there is a pepsis wasp battling it out with 602 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: a tarantula and it's no match. Uh, and it paralyzes 603 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: this tarantula and drags him back like a great distance. Yeah, 604 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: one thing pulling this tarantula across the ground, but which 605 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: is much much, much larger. But the tarantula, like you said, 606 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: it is no match. And even among humans, I think 607 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: that tarantula hawks um sting is like a four out 608 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: of four on the Schmidt pain scale, Like it's as 609 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: bad as it gets. Because you know, why don't They 610 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: asked Mr Schmidt, how bad is it hurt? And he's like, 611 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's terrible, he said, yeah, um, but yes. 612 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: And they're very bright blue and orange too, which is 613 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: another another indicator, like stay away. If you see anything 614 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: it's really colorful, just assume it can it can mess 615 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: you up pretty good. Don't like tantula hawk. That's the 616 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: kids don't like that colorful frog. So but even if 617 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: they even if it's not a wasp taking down a 618 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: tarantula and laying eggs inside it that eat the tarantula 619 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: from the inside out. Um, almost all wasp species, if 620 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: not add percent of wash species. Um. They like we said, 621 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: they raised their young by by paralyzing other insects, dragging 622 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: them to their nest, and laying the eggs nearby, leaving 623 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: the bug to be paralyzed and still alive. When the 624 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: egg hatches, and larva crawls over and starts eating that 625 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: bug alive. And this is one reason why wasps have 626 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: such a bad rap, because it's just such a brutal 627 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: circle of life. It really is, yeah, especially from the 628 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: perspective of the insect. And apparently Charles Darwin said, um, 629 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: when he witnessed this happening to a cute little caterpillar, 630 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: that it made it difficult for him to believe in 631 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,959 Speaker 1: an omnipresent and beneficent God, because what kind of God 632 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: would allow a poor, acute little caterpillar to do that. 633 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: The thing is that Charles Darwin, I mean, he liked 634 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: to puts around in the garden, but he was not 635 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: a farmer. If you're a farmer, you're probably kind of 636 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: happy to see a wasp larva eating a caterpillar, because 637 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: caterpillars eat your crops. And if you ask me, Um, 638 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: this is where we get to the part about the 639 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: roles that lost playing in the ecosystem, and why you 640 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: shouldn't just go willy nilly killing them. Yeah, I mean 641 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: they'll bring in wasps. Farmers well sometimes if they have 642 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: like a insect issue, because the wasp is going to 643 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: take care of that naturally and you won't have to 644 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: use you know, insecticide and stuff like that. No. So, Plus, also, 645 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: bees are usually kind of finicky I saw as far 646 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: as what they'll pollinate and what they won't. Wasps are 647 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: not at all finnicky. They'll pollinate whatever. So they're non 648 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: selected pollinators, which make them like you could use them 649 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: to pollinate any kind of crop, which makes them pretty helpful. 650 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: And so they control other crop destroying insects and they 651 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: also pollinate crops too, so they are pretty useful. So 652 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: that means that you shouldn't just go around killing them. 653 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: I think we should say it again. You shouldn't kill 654 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: anything except mosquitoes, fleas, and ticks. And you also can't say, well, 655 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: they're they're a threat to humans because I looked up 656 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: some stats. Chuck, you ready for this? Yeah, you're not 657 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: gonna get killed with from a wasp, are you? No? 658 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but no, you're not so combined bees, 659 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: wasps and hornets, and hornets are just another type of wasp. 660 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: Is that so? Yeah? I hadn't hurt um. They kill 661 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: about sixty two Americans every year from anaphylactic shock. Right. 662 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: By contrast, three hundred Americans die from falling off of 663 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: ladders every year. In the UK. Get this, between two 664 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: thousand six two thousand and seven, eight people died from bees, 665 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: wasps or hornet stings. I'm including bees here, by the way. 666 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: And then in Australia, where you would guess that half 667 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: the human population is killed off every year by bees 668 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: and wasps and has to regenerate every spring. Now, between 669 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand thirteen, there are only twenty 670 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: seven deaths total for the that thirteen years from bees, wasps, 671 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: and hornets things, which is pretty astounding. But it all 672 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: goes to say, like, don't listen to the murder hornet wrap. 673 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: The hornets and the wasps aren't out to kill you. 674 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: They don't want you anywhere near their nests. But they're 675 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: not like trying to to to wipe out your family. 676 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: They just want to be left alone. Basically, the murder 677 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: hornet wrap now here is a hornet and it's here 678 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: to say, come to kill people in a major way. 679 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: I think I can't wait to re listen to this 680 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: one because I'm pretty sure you said that they kill 681 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: sixty two million Americans every year. No, I think you did. 682 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: I might have been hearing things. It might have been 683 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: a computer glitch. Just sixty two, Okay, six to the two. 684 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: I really am curious. M On if you said a million, 685 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: so we'll find that will be an Easter egg for 686 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: us only. Uh so, yeah, don't kill the wasps. If 687 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: you have what you think is a wasp problem at 688 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: your house, you really don't unless it's you know, I mean, 689 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: if you have a really big wasp nest, like right 690 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: above your front door or something, I could see maybe 691 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: a case being made for removing it, having it professionally removed. 692 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: Or if your kids are playing out back and there's 693 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: a sinkhole from a yellow jacket's underground hundreds of yellow 694 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: jack and if you're allergic, getting that removed too. But 695 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: in general, like wasting and after you, they don't want 696 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: anything to do with you. They're not aggressive towards humans 697 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: unless you're come poking their thing with a stick. Um. 698 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: I love this, Robert says, and this takes like nerves 699 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: of steel, and he's like, if one lands on you, uh, 700 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: don't pay avoid swatting it or making swift movements and 701 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: just kind of sit there and it'll quickly fly off. 702 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to kill a wasp, but if 703 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: a wasp lands on my arm, and I'm not gonna 704 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: be like, all right, little fella, you're just I'm just 705 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: gonna give you some time, moves me along. No, I would. 706 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: I would freak out and flail. I wouldn't swat at 707 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: it because I feel like I would get stung for sure, 708 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: but I would definitely do you know that, right? You 709 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: got to try not to do that. You have to 710 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: listen to Robert and don't pan good luck. Every time 711 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: I see don't panic in the wild, I just assume 712 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: that it's a reference to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, 713 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: don't you. Yeah? I think so. So there's there's standing still. 714 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: That's one thing when one lands on you. Um okay, 715 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: that's that's great. Things you can do to keep them 716 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: from landing on you, though, or to not wear white 717 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: and yellow outdoors, Yeah, okay, I don't like white and yellow. 718 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: They white yellow doesn't look good on me any way. Um, 719 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: but those colors attract insects. Um. You don't want to 720 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: wear perfume because you may confuse them into thinking you're 721 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: a flower. Um. If you have your garbage can uncovered, 722 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: don't stand next to it. You want to cover your 723 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: garbage can, especially if you're us. We gotta we got 724 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: a stink. I always call it the stinkiest garbage can 725 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. This is pretty bad too. It's a lot 726 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: of years of cat litter. Oh yeah, that's a stinky. 727 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: And then you will You can take down nests yourself 728 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: if it's below sixty degrees fahrenheight or fifteen point five 729 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: degrees celsius because they're probably dead in there anyway, so 730 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: it's a good time to take it down. But for 731 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: the most part, we're just going to go ahead and say, 732 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: don't take down a wasp nest that you want out 733 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: of your yard by yourself. Just don't do it. Hire 734 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: a professional. There are people who will take money in 735 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: exchange for coming to to get a net us out 736 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: of your yard. You can give them money for that, 737 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: and they know what they're doing, so you can feel 738 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: good about that about hiring them, and it also supports 739 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: local business too. Yeah, and don't get that uh was 740 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: ray that sprays from like twenty ft away and just 741 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: go home and like attack these nests with poison. Just 742 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: don't do it. No, stop killing things? What else you got? 743 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: I got one more thing? You have? Anything else? Okay? 744 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: So in Japan, it always circles back to Japan, doesn't 745 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 1: it chuck if it's quality and good, including their um um, 746 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: including the Asian giant wasp as well as yellow jackets 747 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: and some other types of wasps. Japanese culture or culinary 748 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 1: culture loves wasp larva. But to get wasp larva, you 749 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: have to go out in the wild, find a wasps 750 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: nest in the summer, and then take it back home 751 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: without stung, and raise the larva yourself. And then when 752 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: they're ready to go, you harvest them and eat them 753 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: in the fall, which is pretty interesting in and of itself, right, 754 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: it gets even more interesting than that because to find 755 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: a wasp nest in the woods, what they do is 756 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: they take raw fish. Japanese love raw fish, but they 757 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: share some of theirs with um wasps and they leave 758 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: it out his bait. And then when a wasp shows up. 759 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: They'll take chopsticks and a little hunk of this this 760 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: fish meat that they have a string tied too, and 761 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: they'll hand it to the wasp, and the wasp will 762 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 1: fly off with the hunk of fish to take back 763 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: to its larva its eggs, with the string dangling, which 764 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: makes it easier to follow back to the nest. And 765 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: after doing this a few times, they're probably successful enough 766 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: that they track the wasp all the way back. They 767 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: don't lose it, and they find the nest, and then 768 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 1: that's when they take it home, intend to a larva, 769 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 1: and then they eat it in the fall. That sounds 770 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: familiar for some reason. I might have heard that before. 771 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: Isn't that uh amazing? Well, that's all I've got for 772 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: wasp Chuck wasp out. Uh So, since Chuck said wasped out, 773 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 1: that means it's time for the listener mail. I'm gonna 774 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: call this Adam. I think you were wrong and Josh 775 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: was referencing they might be giants. It's a long winded title. Okay, 776 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: Hey guys, in your episode how We Almost Got Rid 777 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: of Polio, you read a listener mail that referred to 778 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: how Flame Thrower's Work episode. However, I'm somewhat sad that 779 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: the reference wasn't made for the they might be Giant song? 780 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: Is Stanboul not Constantinople? Josh made the statement, and it 781 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: was a wonderful wasted opportunity. Well, that's exactly what we're 782 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: talking about, right, Yeah, I said, not Constantinople. Yeah, that 783 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: you were talking about that they might be giants song? Right? Yeah, 784 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: of course you just didn't. He doesn't get me. He 785 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: just didn't say. Hey, by the way, that's that they 786 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: might be giant song. Hey, everybody open up for the 787 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: spoon feeding. Uh, just thought i'd drop you both the line. 788 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: I love the show and enjoy listening to it daily 789 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 1: to and from work, especially the wit and dry humor. 790 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: It comes over your hands, all right, he said, it's 791 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 1: very much my style, so much so that you aren't 792 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: sure if that was a joke. Even told wow, this 793 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 1: is getting very meta. You both make my commute tolerable 794 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: and enjoyable. Thanks, guys. That is from Adam P and 795 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 1: Gulfport Mississip. Nice Adam for you. From now on, whenever 796 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: I make a joke, I'm gonna add waca Waca'll be 797 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: just for Adam. Thanks a lot, Adam. We appreciate that. 798 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to us and for lending us 799 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: rag on you. We do it lovingly and jokingly. We 800 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: hope you know. Of course, if you want us to 801 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: rag on you, well you send us an email and 802 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: see what you get. Look up and see what you get. Uh. 803 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 1: You can send it to stuff podcast at iHeart radio 804 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: dot com. 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