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Speaker 1: And what might that look like. Well, Kevin, that's a

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Speaker 1: which is that attaching to our trade agreements with China.

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Speaker 1: We still have ongoing trade negotiation. Attaching to that a

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Speaker 1: time for China to crack down on the illegal trade

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Speaker 1: of exot animals. They're they're hunting down these endangered species

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Speaker 1: You'll hear some people saying that they have to shut

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Speaker 1: do have to crack animals that are being used for

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Speaker 1: So how did how would that would that be a

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Speaker 1: the the black market for exotic animals, this says. And

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Speaker 1: then the way, mind you, the reason they were created

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Speaker 1: people in rural China. Coming up next, much more on

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Speaker 1: the program, We check in with Bloomberg's Josh wind Grove

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Speaker 1: White House Reporter for the latest coming out of six

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Speaker 1: D Pennsylvania. Adarew Tyler, my friend, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on. What have you been watching on Netflix? Uh,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been watching Netflix. I've been watching Ado and

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Speaker 1: I've been rewatching true blood. Oh wow, all right, a

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Speaker 1: true blooder. All right, thank you so much time. I'm

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Speaker 1: Kevin Silly, Bloomberg, Chief Washington correspondent. You're listening to Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: ninety nine one. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin

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Speaker 1: Surreley on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven FM

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Speaker 1: h D two. I'm Kevin Surreley, Chief Washington correspondent for

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. We are on standby for

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Speaker 1: President Trump's daily Ronavirus Task Force briefing sets to begin

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Speaker 1: any any minute now, So we'll toss to that and

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Speaker 1: you can listen to that ready here on Bloomberg one.

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Speaker 1: Someone who has been all over covering the administration these

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Speaker 1: past few weeks are very go Josh Wind grows on

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Speaker 1: the line, Bloomberg White House reporter, Josh, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? How you doing? I can't complain right, There's

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Speaker 1: weather is starting to warm up. I went outside on

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Speaker 1: one of my walks. You know they tell you to

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Speaker 1: take walks, Take a walk, take a walk. Whenever you

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Speaker 1: get stressed, go outside, take a walk, take your mask,

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Speaker 1: and take a walk. I'm on a walk. Then the

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Speaker 1: wind comes again. I'm I am very sick of this wind.

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Speaker 1: But there's there's bigger problems in the world. We have

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Speaker 1: too much to be grateful for. What the heck is

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Speaker 1: going on with North Korea? Josh, Oh, that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: You know, we actually think we're probably coming close to

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Speaker 1: the US starting to hone in on something. But if

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Speaker 1: it's not clear that they actually are accessing their own intelligence,

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Speaker 1: and that the mixed signals from South Korea, from China

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Speaker 1: Kim jongland. So we'll see, we'll see what happens. But

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Speaker 1: we expect to hear him say that he signed this

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Speaker 1: executive order on immigration. We started the day with him

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Speaker 1: authorizing the navy to destroy Iranian gunboats, and we've like,

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Speaker 1: you know, really didn't talk about that at all. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been a multifaceted day here. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a foreign policy day, so

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Speaker 1: we covered North Korea earlier in the program, we addressed

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Speaker 1: the issue in the South China same You mentioned the

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Speaker 1: immigration executive order. What do we know the President started

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Speaker 1: tweeted that out earlier this morning. What specifically is President

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Speaker 1: that it is less big in scope than his tweet

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Speaker 1: late Monday announcing it suggested it's aimed at green cards

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Speaker 1: These are work green cards, team migration green cards for

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Speaker 1: that's big. That means this is targeted and frankly a

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Speaker 1: they sort of trickled out since that tweet late Monday nights.

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't the work since before that tweet came

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Speaker 1: out late Monday. So, I mean it seems like, in

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Speaker 1: josh Wyn Grove Blueberg, White House reporter, the president's re

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Speaker 1: election campaign message is going to be reopened, the economy,

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Speaker 1: saying Americans is their first shot at jobs. Now, will

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Speaker 1: this measure actually fundamentally change that. I think you'll have

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Speaker 1: on this the political winner saying, hey, million Americans, whatever

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Speaker 1: Green card, green card, you can just go work anywhere

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Speaker 1: given in the selection, you're you know, make your bets

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. I mean, he believes that immigration measures,

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Speaker 1: I mean that hasn't changed since he ran on election,

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Speaker 1: And this is sort of the latest the latest in

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Speaker 1: another topic that you mentioned, which was Iran. I mean,

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Speaker 1: But this has all been bubbling for a while. The President,

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Speaker 1: if that was that, there's that. But moving on in

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Speaker 1: AID in. But you know, the technicalities of that are

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Speaker 1: they planned on on lifting those in other words, storing

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Speaker 1: the virus, or we continue to deal with the virus. UH,

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Speaker 1: you know at home as well. We've got like a

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Speaker 1: this will China's lack of transparency impact the United States

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Speaker 1: relationship with Europe. I think it will impact Europe's relationship

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. I mean, the President Trump doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: in Europe. But there are real singles in particular, we're

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Speaker 1: going to see this around Whahwei as companies decide our

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Speaker 1: countries excuse me, decide whether they used Hahwei five G equipment,

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Speaker 1: and the US has called them them to say Look,

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