Speaker 1: Hell I Suck At Dating with Denglert and Jared Haven
Speaker 1: and I heard radio podcast. All right, everyone, welcome to
Speaker 1: this week's episode of Help I Suck At Dating? And boy,
Speaker 1: I know I say this every week. I feel like
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison. The most dramatic season ever. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be the best episode ever because Jared isn't here, and
Speaker 1: that's just is fantastic. Uh. In all seriousness, though, Jared
Speaker 1: is going has some some family matters to deal with,
Speaker 1: so it will be just me. But Easton and Mark
Speaker 1: have their cameras on um, which is a pretty rare thing,
Speaker 1: so I think that they're gonna do you guys want
Speaker 1: to chime in and say hello, maybe reintroduce yourselves. It's
Speaker 1: been a while since well Easton was here last week,
Speaker 1: but Mark, it's been a while since Help I Suck
Speaker 1: a Dating? A senior here. Well, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here. You know, I'm an old
Speaker 1: school member of the Help I Suck At Dating stuck
Speaker 1: army from the beginning, and we're just reminiscing before we
Speaker 1: started recording about back in the day and how many
Speaker 1: years you've been doing this show. Now, glad you have
Speaker 1: been a part of it. Hey question, Um, you were
Speaker 1: in the studio. I think are you back in the studio?
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm going in part time. Yeah, I'm going in
Speaker 1: like early in the week. Huh what about like, uh,
Speaker 1: his secret still doing his thing from home. No, well,
Speaker 1: he's got the TV show in New York with Kelly
Speaker 1: Rippa and he has a radio show right there in
Speaker 1: the building, so he is in studio for the TV
Speaker 1: show and the radio show. How is it being in
Speaker 1: the office? Is it pretty like eerie? Yeah, it's it
Speaker 1: was weird. It took some getting used to, but then
Speaker 1: it's like riding a bike, you know, you remember all
Speaker 1: your old routines and you kind of start getting into
Speaker 1: that and it was kind of refreshing to be back.
Speaker 1: But very few are back. It is still a very
Speaker 1: empty place, which is good. It makes me feel safe
Speaker 1: that I'm not surrounded by dozens of people all the time.
Speaker 1: Still a pretty much a ghost town. So it's been nice.
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying it. Action well, why why you even
Speaker 1: go into the office, though, Like, what's the point? Honestly,
Speaker 1: we're getting it gets into the weeds now. But we
Speaker 1: had a staff change. We had a guy leave. We
Speaker 1: hired a new woman to join our staff, and it
Speaker 1: felt weird to me as the producer of the show too. Hey,
Speaker 1: welcome to the team. I'll never see you in person.
Speaker 1: It just felt wrong. I felt like I need to
Speaker 1: be there to help, to guide, to do whatever. So
Speaker 1: that's why I started going in. And for anyone that's
Speaker 1: listening that's maybe a little bit curious. The show he's
Speaker 1: talking about is help I suck a dating. That's right.
Speaker 1: We have a staff. Yeah, we're we're hiring a lot
Speaker 1: of new staff, some new producers, etcetera, etcetera. Takes it
Speaker 1: takes a village for this podcast. Um, in today's episode,
Speaker 1: we've got some real hot topics that it's it's weird
Speaker 1: doing this with that Jared, because Jared uh is a
Speaker 1: lot better at I guess maybe feigning like interest about
Speaker 1: this so you know, like as bad as I want
Speaker 1: to talk about g G Hadid and Zane Malick breakup, Um,
Speaker 1: I just I just genuinely have zero input on it
Speaker 1: because I think I should feel required to, like, this
Speaker 1: is your podcast, can be whatever you wanted to be.
Speaker 1: But see, but the thing about that is this, right,
Speaker 1: So again, for the listeners, a little bit you know,
Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain. Here we get you know, like
Speaker 1: a right up every week with an email saying like, okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this. Here's some good thoughts started,
Speaker 1: some good questions. Here's our guest, here's some emails. I
Speaker 1: don't know who writes it. I I assume Hannah writes it.
Speaker 1: Um and it's it's you know, it's pretty well done.
Speaker 1: It's pretty well thought out. So I feel bad like
Speaker 1: skipping over these things because there's a lot of effort
Speaker 1: put in on the back end. I mean, this podcast
Speaker 1: is centered around your shortcomings, like personally, like this is
Speaker 1: why of this show, So you know, don't feel like
Speaker 1: you have to talk about other people sucking at dating.
Speaker 1: You can just talk about something that you suck at.
Speaker 1: I think that they put these together in case you
Speaker 1: need it. You know, they don't want you to go
Speaker 1: on the and you have. If you come in with
Speaker 1: eight different things to talk about, then you never have
Speaker 1: to look at the rundown. And that's how it is
Speaker 1: with the Secresh Show too. If he wants to go,
Speaker 1: then all my stuff can get set aside. That's fine.
Speaker 1: We're here for whatever you need. Okay, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: see guys are here then, and I need a lot
Speaker 1: for me today. So let's just you know, in in
Speaker 1: true help, I suck at dating fashion. Let's just do
Speaker 1: like a round table, maybe real quick, and we can
Speaker 1: all say one thing that we've sucked at in the
Speaker 1: past week. What do you think about that? Oh, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be relationship specific to it could
Speaker 1: just be like a life thing. I'll go first, one
Speaker 1: thing that I sucked at in the past week. Um.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we'll do like one superficial one and then
Speaker 1: we'll go a little deeper on a second one, so
Speaker 1: that way we get a little warmed up with this exercise. Um.
Speaker 1: I I bought a new motorcycle a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and I, uh, we did the mirrors on it, and
Speaker 1: I didn't realize every time I turned the handlebars all
Speaker 1: the way to the left, it like knocked into the
Speaker 1: gas tank. And so now my brand new motorcycle has
Speaker 1: chipped paint all over it, and I'm really upset about that.
Speaker 1: Um So that's my superficial one. Uh So now who's next?
Speaker 1: Oh man? Um okay, uh last night, we'll record this
Speaker 1: on a Friday, So last night, Thursday night, was the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Arizona game, and it was late in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and it was a very good game, and
Speaker 1: it was very close, and my daughter was trying to
Speaker 1: talk to me, and I was not listening. I was
Speaker 1: giving lipsode because I was doing the whole huh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: uh huh. And I did finally say to her, Honey,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm not listening. What are you trying
Speaker 1: to say to me right now? Because I haven't heard
Speaker 1: a word you're saying. So I did try to make
Speaker 1: it right and admit that that I sucked in that
Speaker 1: moment of being a father, and hopefully she won't hold
Speaker 1: that against me for too long, But in that moment,
Speaker 1: I sucked at being a father. There are definitely times
Speaker 1: where Klin is like trying to talk to me and
Speaker 1: then watching football or something, and I'm like, listen, it's
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. There's like thirty seconds left. I just can't.
Speaker 1: I can't be bothered right now. I'll talk to you
Speaker 1: whatever you need in two minutes. But that's is that?
Speaker 1: Is that a dick move? I don't think so. I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope not. At least shouldn't she meaning Kleen or
Speaker 1: my daughter always be the priority. Um. The way I
Speaker 1: look at it is, well, well, the way I try
Speaker 1: to like at least spin into my own head is
Speaker 1: like the game doesn't care if I'm watching or not,
Speaker 1: you know, like they don't care, Um, but Klin will
Speaker 1: have a reaction as to whether I'm paying attention or not,
Speaker 1: and that will affect both of us positively or negatively.
Speaker 1: So I guess what's the worst If you just turn
Speaker 1: off the TV and walk away, what's the worst you
Speaker 1: look up and see who one later? Fine, doesn't affect
Speaker 1: you really at all, right, right exactly. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of that's why I'm kind of against what we're doing,
Speaker 1: which maybe should change that at simple in our lives.
Speaker 1: But in the moment, it's just so hard, you know,
Speaker 1: it's really hard. You know. I've I've been I've been
Speaker 1: going to a lot of therapy over the last few months.
Speaker 1: And something that she talked about was she my there
Speaker 1: was like, who is the most important person in your life?
Speaker 1: And I said, my wife, Allison, And she said, that's
Speaker 1: that's wrong. That's not the way you should look at
Speaker 1: It should be you. You should be it should be you,
Speaker 1: then your spouse and then your children, that's the idea. Um,
Speaker 1: and uh and I was like, no, no, that I
Speaker 1: can never put myself before my wife, and and she's saying,
Speaker 1: well no, because if your needs aren't met, if you're
Speaker 1: not taking care of yourself, you can't be a good
Speaker 1: partner to this person that is important to you. So
Speaker 1: all that to say, I think you should focus on
Speaker 1: the football game, give it all of your attention, and
Speaker 1: then when it's over, you talk to your children, because
Speaker 1: their third on the totem pole. You care about the
Speaker 1: football game. You know. I say that kind of as
Speaker 1: a joke, but but also you know, you know, you
Speaker 1: guys are both looking at me like, Hi, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a point, that's right, Um. But no, you know it
Speaker 1: did get me thinking about, like, um, when do you
Speaker 1: when you prioritize yourself over your partner? I think that's
Speaker 1: that's something I think about a lot, you know, um,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I should every decision I make
Speaker 1: should be like, oh, how does this help Alison? How
Speaker 1: does that make me a better husband? You know I
Speaker 1: think about that a lot. But then, uh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: because I feel selfish every time I put myself first.
Speaker 1: Do you guys? Got Yeah? I see what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and then you try to like spin it in your
Speaker 1: head and you're like almost feel guilty or by trying
Speaker 1: to spin it, right Yeah yeah yeah, um but uh
Speaker 1: um that I'll have to say, Mark, I don't think
Speaker 1: you're being a bad parents by by not listening at
Speaker 1: that particular moment. Yeah, the game's on. I mean they
Speaker 1: get it, you know. On the flip side, don't you
Speaker 1: think it should be uh like they should be more
Speaker 1: aware of what Like you're like, you're obviously distracted, right,
Speaker 1: So don't you think that she should be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll wait, you know, five ten minutes before I
Speaker 1: asked this question or say this. I guess it was
Speaker 1: nothing crucial by the way she was. She wasn't you know,
Speaker 1: starting with fire or something, And that just emboldens my
Speaker 1: point even a little bit more so, that's true. It
Speaker 1: was kind of small talkie, it was kind of just
Speaker 1: kind of random thoughts. So yeah, maybe, but but still,
Speaker 1: I need to be there, I need to be available.
Speaker 1: I was the only parent in the house of the time.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was out Yeah, I guess I get all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Um, we're you gonna say, no, I I
Speaker 1: just have this memory of I knew growing up that
Speaker 1: if my dad responded with how cool, that meant he
Speaker 1: was not listening to me. Yeah, there's like he just
Speaker 1: like goes in autopilot, motor whatever. Yeah, exactly, It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: East is talking about some nerd bullsh that I don't
Speaker 1: care about. That gonna say how cool. That's pretty funny
Speaker 1: in the same vein of all that stuff. Eastern. By
Speaker 1: the way, thanks for sharing that you're going to therapy. Man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I appreciate that vulnerability there. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: um uh it's important and uh I uh, It's helped
Speaker 1: me a lot, and um, I think everyone should do it,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people do these days. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and hey, if you're if you're afraid of going,
Speaker 1: you maybe try better help, give better help. But try
Speaker 1: We don't have a better help sponsorship, don't we. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, but we should have one whatever. We
Speaker 1: may be the only podcast that doesn't anyway. Um, No,
Speaker 1: therapy is important. And I started going to a new
Speaker 1: person a few months ago and she's been great and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm grateful for her therapy. It's definitely something I
Speaker 1: feel like I want to get back into as well.
Speaker 1: I haven't done it. Uh. I think last time I
Speaker 1: went to therapy was like three years ago, two years ago,
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, I remember when you were going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a good time. I just, you know, we
Speaker 1: had a great time. That's a weird thing to say. Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why I stopped. I
Speaker 1: think I just uh I got distracted and I got busy.
Speaker 1: But like what am I busy with? I don't you know.
Speaker 1: I just have to do this once a week. That's
Speaker 1: my only obligation. What can you do? Do it virtually?
Speaker 1: Because it seems like it would be hard for you,
Speaker 1: with somebody who doesn't live so much in one city
Speaker 1: for very long, to be consistently going. Yeah, Kalin does
Speaker 1: better help actually sometimes or yeah she does like once
Speaker 1: a week. I think something like that. It's not a
Speaker 1: bad idea. I don't know, I should probably look into it,
Speaker 1: especially the past. This is this is gonna be my
Speaker 1: second thing that I sucked at recently. Um. This this
Speaker 1: end of October, I always get really emotional because it's
Speaker 1: the anniversary of my mom's passing, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm just very emotionally detached from like everything right now.
Speaker 1: So I feel like therapy could help me continue to
Speaker 1: work through those emotions, and I feel I just feel
Speaker 1: like I'm a crappy partner right now too because of it.
Speaker 1: So uh, I definitely need to get back on that
Speaker 1: therapy train. I guess, well, this is shorthand, but this
Speaker 1: was a read it thread recently and it was what
Speaker 1: was the best thing you learned in therapy? And so
Speaker 1: I have the top like ten things that people said
Speaker 1: they learned in therapy they found the most valuable. So
Speaker 1: here's some shorthand for you, some quick therapy, and maybe
Speaker 1: this will help somebody when they hear these. So here's
Speaker 1: the top ten things. You don't always have to be okay.
Speaker 1: Trust yourself except that sometimes you will mess up. Let
Speaker 1: go of judgment over things that don't matter. Ask yourself,
Speaker 1: why start your day with a good attitude toward others?
Speaker 1: Take your own happiness seriously. Self care isn't selfish. Speak
Speaker 1: up for yourself and fake it until you make it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but a lot of those just kind of seem like
Speaker 1: like cliche statement. Yeah, just like everything that you see
Speaker 1: on like an inspirational poster as you walk into like
Speaker 1: your therapist office or something like that. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: a lot, but I do like, um, let go of
Speaker 1: judgment over things that don't matter. I think we spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time concerning ourselves or arguing about things
Speaker 1: that do not matter. And I've always heard that, ask yourself,
Speaker 1: is this going to be a problem in a year,
Speaker 1: and if it's not, then just kind of let it go.
Speaker 1: And you're talking more like disputes between um people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it just the whole worrying thing and
Speaker 1: the whole yeah, I disputes between people. Yes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess I get that. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: tend to hold onto things a lot more than they should,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure I'm obviously included in that as well.
Speaker 1: I wonder why that is, you know, like, like so
Speaker 1: many things that are just so irrelevant, especially in the
Speaker 1: big picture. I think people just seem to get so
Speaker 1: worked up about and I'm not talking and think, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I was so upset about whatever that was,
Speaker 1: and you realize now that was meaningless. I'm always shocked
Speaker 1: when I'm upset about something and then like a week later,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what I was upset about, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't even remember it, And I'm like, in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, if I can't even remember what I was
Speaker 1: upset about, how could it have been in portant enough
Speaker 1: for me to even be upset about it? You know?
Speaker 1: So I think that's definitely something to consider too, where
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's probably not gonna have a long
Speaker 1: term effect, so it's like, why do you even worry
Speaker 1: about it? But I don't know, Yeah, it's it's it's strange.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really personally get it, but it
Speaker 1: is what it is. I guess. Um, all right, well
Speaker 1: that was great guys, thanks for partaking in that round
Speaker 1: table discussion with me about things that we need help with.
Speaker 1: Because one sucker, I mean, don't you kind of piggybacked
Speaker 1: off of yours Eastern go we need you to do it. Now.
Speaker 1: Let me think it's I have such a high opinion
Speaker 1: to myself, it's really hard for me to talk about this.
Speaker 1: Um I you know, I I we have this, um
Speaker 1: we have this piece of cable coming in from the
Speaker 1: street that is our internet connection, and it comes in
Speaker 1: through our basement through this really JANKI um like plank
Speaker 1: of wood that is like it's now open to the basement,
Speaker 1: so critters and other debris get in there, and because
Speaker 1: of this cable getting in. I've told my wife I
Speaker 1: was like a week ago, I was going to um
Speaker 1: re connect that cable because I am an engineer and
Speaker 1: I know how to do that kind of thing. And
Speaker 1: I didn't do it, and I don't have any doing
Speaker 1: that today. UM so I sucked at that. I broke
Speaker 1: a promise to my wife, and uh, yeah, I sucked
Speaker 1: it that. That's I mean, that's a very valid thing
Speaker 1: to suck that. I appreciate you. Yeah, well, I don't
Speaker 1: you just go do it after that? Why don't just
Speaker 1: do it now? It's not like do anything important. It's
Speaker 1: gonna take my internet down. And I've been putting it
Speaker 1: off because I'm afraid that if I cut it, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to fix it. That's something I
Speaker 1: even though I know how to do it. I have
Speaker 1: the piece. Actually, it's just this is all I have
Speaker 1: to install. Have the piece right here. It's a little
Speaker 1: like coax um barrel. If any audio before this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little coupler. I think I cut it and
Speaker 1: then re recrimp it. That's all I have to do.
Speaker 1: But I would take two minutes, maybe two minutes, two minutes.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if this happens to you guys.
Speaker 1: I like a whole list of things that take two
Speaker 1: minutes that I like continuously put off because they take
Speaker 1: two minutes and then um, then they don't get done
Speaker 1: and it's like it's two minutes to get it over with.
Speaker 1: But this thing I'm afraid of really screwing up and
Speaker 1: then we don't have internet, and that's that's my fear. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what they say, Um, you know, a hundred
Speaker 1: shores that take two minutes would take you two hundred minutes,
Speaker 1: that's right, and that's but just over three hours. Damn. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I mean I definitely see where you're coming from.
Speaker 1: Um oh, there was something I want to talk about,
Speaker 1: and now I can't really remember what it was. Eastern
Speaker 1: You successfully derailed my thought process here. Congratulations, um Gi
Speaker 1: Hiti Saint Malick. You know, it definitely wasn't any of
Speaker 1: those things. It was more of just like a topical,
Speaker 1: lighthearted thing for us to talk about. Um, what are
Speaker 1: you guys gonna be for Halloween this year? That was
Speaker 1: that wasn't it? By the way, I just I'm just
Speaker 1: stalling for time at this point. Well, this is airing
Speaker 1: Sunday night Monday morning, so Halloween will have come and gone.
Speaker 1: So but I not going to be anything this year.
Speaker 1: I don't. I kind of take my kids lead on that,
Speaker 1: although my oldest is going is Guy Fieri, which I
Speaker 1: think is hilarious. Is hilarious and she's what she's sixteen
Speaker 1: or something, fifteen and a half. Nice and so I
Speaker 1: was proud of that costume. I think that's great. And
Speaker 1: I think the other one is cow Girl Okay, very cool,
Speaker 1: very cool east and I feel like you've got something
Speaker 1: big Planta. My my wife and I like doing couples
Speaker 1: costumes and this year we're doing I am Jessica Rabbit
Speaker 1: and she is Roger Rabbit and I dressed up was
Speaker 1: that for all party last weekend and um, I got
Speaker 1: to wear makeup for the first time ever and that
Speaker 1: was really fun and it really helped me understand the
Speaker 1: plight of the of the woman. You know. That's that's
Speaker 1: a lot of working out of you every day. God damn. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well especially yeah, I mean I feel like I probably
Speaker 1: got into a system, right. So do you have, um,
Speaker 1: your wife do it for you or do you do it?
Speaker 1: She did it for me. Um. So, like the craziest
Speaker 1: thing was, I got pretty thick eyebrows, and so what
Speaker 1: you have to do is you take glue, like regular
Speaker 1: glue from like you know, you're using school like a
Speaker 1: glue stick, and you just go over your eyebrows and
Speaker 1: then that makes it so you can cover it with
Speaker 1: like foundation and block them off. And then you draw
Speaker 1: new eyebrows on top up because I've got this really
Speaker 1: big cartoon e eyeshadow because Jessica Rabbit is a cartoon character.
Speaker 1: And uh, then I have to wear the wig. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like long wig, and I have to wear this
Speaker 1: dress and I feel beautiful when it's all done. But
Speaker 1: it's quite the ordeal. And it was this not on
Speaker 1: your Instagram. Um Uh, it was for a for a second. Um.
Speaker 1: We we did it for this party and then we
Speaker 1: couldn't get good pictures. So we're gonna do it for
Speaker 1: them for Halloween. Let's take better pictures, so we'll be
Speaker 1: on my Instagram by time this airs. It's okay. So
Speaker 1: for the listener, do you want to see Eastern dress
Speaker 1: as a sexy Jessica Rabbit to his Instagram page at
Speaker 1: Eastern Allen at Eastern Allen, Allen. Spell of the y
Speaker 1: would big fan of the um like reversing, like swapping
Speaker 1: genders when it comes to a couple's costumes like that,
Speaker 1: like for instance, Kaylin and I are gonna be She's
Speaker 1: gonna be Willy Wonka and I'm gonna be Violet Beauregard.
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, my my one of my
Speaker 1: best friends was uh Squints and his girlfriend was Polly Peppercorn,
Speaker 1: and then the very next night, I'm sorry, Wendy Peppercorn.
Speaker 1: And then the very next night he was Wendy Peppercorn,
Speaker 1: and then she was Squint. They like they like switched
Speaker 1: um for the weekend. I'm just a big fan of those.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just think there's so much
Speaker 1: more fun they are they are because that's the best
Speaker 1: part about Halloweens. You get to become someone that you're
Speaker 1: that you're not, or someone you'd like to be, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and you want to be sexy, Jessica Rabbit,
Speaker 1: I want to be sexy. I want to be an
Speaker 1: object so badly. That's all. Oh my gosh, well, um,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the photos. Mark I guess
Speaker 1: we won't get to see any photos for you, Hanna,
Speaker 1: You've been silent the whole episode so far. Do you
Speaker 1: mind just sharing what you're gonna be for Halloween this year?
Speaker 1: I'm actually not celebrating Halloween. This year's dressing because I
Speaker 1: know I'm being really boring, but I'm at home visiting
Speaker 1: my parents and we're just gonna go wine tasting and NAPA.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of Halloween. I think I had
Speaker 1: a bad experience when I was in elementary school, so
Speaker 1: I don't love it. Traumatized. Yeah, I was a milk
Speaker 1: carton and got severely bullying, so I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 1: I think. I think what you need to do as
Speaker 1: an adult now is be a milk carton and just
Speaker 1: like own take ownership over that, you know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I thought it was the coolest thing. I built
Speaker 1: it with my dad. I had the milk mustache, and
Speaker 1: no one liked it. That's unfortunate. I'm sorry that you
Speaker 1: had to go through that, but that's kind of the
Speaker 1: beauty of be an adult, right. You can make your
Speaker 1: own decisions, and you don't have to celebrate Halloween if
Speaker 1: you don't want to. Honestly going out and drinking wine.
Speaker 1: It will probably be more fun anyways. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: well you guys, you know, I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is allowed, but I would love for you to stick
Speaker 1: with me through our guest interview which we have coming up.
Speaker 1: We have the lovely oh two people. Actually, Cuppy and
Speaker 1: Shiva are going to be joining us from a Tampa
Speaker 1: Bays which premieres November five on Prime Video. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that later, um, but stick through this quick break.
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring them in and chat with all Right, everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome back to help I suck at dating. And as promised,
Speaker 1: I got Cuppy and Shiva from Tampa Bass, which is
Speaker 1: premiering November five on Prime Video. How are you guys? Okay? Um?
Speaker 1: Hungover but good hungover? You know, I can't lie. I
Speaker 1: actually am very hungover as well. It's weird how just
Speaker 1: being hungover it just in itself just makes you feel
Speaker 1: like just like a shell of a person. You know.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but really, I really that's just my life nowadays.
Speaker 1: I feel like just like one perpetual hangover. You guys
Speaker 1: can tell me a little bit more about Tampa Bay's
Speaker 1: so basically it's just about a group of our friends. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're all lesbians. It's just kind of portraying our lives,
Speaker 1: our journeys, our stories. Um in Tampa. Yeah, we're always
Speaker 1: you know, trying to have a good time. There's of
Speaker 1: course some drama, a little drama, a little bit of drama.
Speaker 1: So can you guys tell me, like how how did
Speaker 1: this show even? Like not like how did you guys
Speaker 1: come into the show? You know, did someone approach you
Speaker 1: about it and they're like, hey, we have this idea. Um,
Speaker 1: two of our friends actually reached out to a few
Speaker 1: producers out in l A. And I kept getting nose
Speaker 1: nose nose, and then finally someone was like, um, this
Speaker 1: sounds awesome and that kind of started everything for us.
Speaker 1: Like that was back in nineteen Yeah, okay, all of
Speaker 1: the all of the Bays knew each other before filming,
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah, it's like our like kind of
Speaker 1: like our party friend group. That's I gotta say. It's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. How Uh you guys just are like our
Speaker 1: lives are cool enough that we should have a film
Speaker 1: crew come and film it. And they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we agree, We're we'll be right out. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's like a thing people say like oh my god,
Speaker 1: like we need to have somebody follow us around and
Speaker 1: like that should actually happen for can you can you
Speaker 1: tell me what we would expect from watching the show? Um, chaos,
Speaker 1: that's like a lot of there's like a lot of
Speaker 1: group events where we're out like drinking together, and then
Speaker 1: I feel like once alcohol starts flowing, real starts coming out.
Speaker 1: And you also like see us with our families and
Speaker 1: like that too, So it's kind of like a good
Speaker 1: mixture of everything. I feel like people think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be this huge party show, which like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of that, but there's a lot of real stuff like
Speaker 1: relatable to absolutely there's all a self discovery that's for sure,
Speaker 1: Okay throughout the show. So how did your family and
Speaker 1: friends react to the show? Um, Well, like mine were
Speaker 1: like shook and like I still don't think that they
Speaker 1: think it's real. Like my mom's definitely on the show.
Speaker 1: She's on the trailer and she saw it and she
Speaker 1: was like shocked. She was like she I cannot believe
Speaker 1: this is happening. And I was like, Mom, like you
Speaker 1: literally agreed, like you signed papers, like you let camera
Speaker 1: crew into your home, like you knew this was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: She just like she's just like shocked that, like, you know,
Speaker 1: my life kind of a little bit of her life
Speaker 1: is going to be portrayed on television and um, especially
Speaker 1: like as a gay woman, you know, because my family
Speaker 1: is from Iran and over there, it's kind of you know,
Speaker 1: not accepted, you know, So it's just it's a lot
Speaker 1: for them on that on that end. Mhm, yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't only imagine what about you, Coppy. I feel my
Speaker 1: family was like super excited about it. I think the
Speaker 1: funniest part about all of it is like a lot
Speaker 1: of my friends, like people I know at like work
Speaker 1: or like, oh, like you're gonna have to let me
Speaker 1: know when it comes out, Like bitch, there's billboards, like
Speaker 1: you're gonna know when it comes out. It's not like
Speaker 1: some like little show that like we like filmed on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be on Amazon Prime Video, right, Like that's
Speaker 1: definitely one of the bigger streaming platforms obviously, right. I
Speaker 1: think that people are just like underestimating it, and I
Speaker 1: think that's like kind of funny for me because like
Speaker 1: I feel, I mean, obviously I'm honest. So I think
Speaker 1: it's like huge, but I feel like people have been
Speaker 1: like downplaying it, So I'm excited for everybody to see it.
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen any of the episodes yet? Because
Speaker 1: it hasn't premiered yet. I lost that privilege. Did we
Speaker 1: even have that privilege? We didn't have that privilege. I
Speaker 1: don't think we ever did. Um, we don't didn't see
Speaker 1: anything beforehand, so we have no idea how we're about
Speaker 1: to be for try to say, how does that make
Speaker 1: you guys feel stress you out at all? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: like I didn't. I was just being myself, so like whatever,
Speaker 1: I was seeing myself too. But like so I'm like
Speaker 1: really in the fitness, but I had like put on
Speaker 1: weight before the show, so I'm like, super, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: really it. That's really, that's really it. I mean I
Speaker 1: have like no filter in general, so I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about what I said, but like there was times where
Speaker 1: I was like having conversations and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: I have micon still yeah and there and those are
Speaker 1: the juiciest ones too that they're definitely gonna oh yeah.
Speaker 1: My biggest thing with that stuff was like, especially when
Speaker 1: we're party. When your partying, I'm always just afraid of
Speaker 1: like me being really like blackout drunk or something. And
Speaker 1: then I'm like stressed out because I'm like, what did
Speaker 1: I say that I don't remember saying or like doing,
Speaker 1: you know, and if you are parting a lot, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's gonna be a lot of that. I blacked
Speaker 1: up twice on camera, So that's good. And you stressed
Speaker 1: at all about watching that back at all? Or two?
Speaker 1: It is what it is? What can you do? I
Speaker 1: though they can't do anything about it. There's nothing you
Speaker 1: can do at this point. You're kind of like, well,
Speaker 1: so on the show throughout the entire season, we're gonna
Speaker 1: see you guys like go on dates and stuff like
Speaker 1: that too. Is Is that is there gonna be like
Speaker 1: a dating focus at all? I might have a little
Speaker 1: a little fling going a little bit. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to like spoil anything, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think I didn't. I think it wasn't
Speaker 1: really a date. You kind of see like a course
Speaker 1: of a little relationship, you know, unfold for me and
Speaker 1: then maybe fold again, um old and unfold. You might
Speaker 1: see um copy trying to like put some moves on me. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was just kidding and try to knock me out.
Speaker 1: Is there any dating among the friend group at all,
Speaker 1: like between any other friends? Um, there are three couples
Speaker 1: on the show that were like already couples, So there's
Speaker 1: there's a lot of that's a lot of people because
Speaker 1: there's YouTube, then those six and then and then let's
Speaker 1: not forget copies. Um also dated one of one of
Speaker 1: the beys too, but they're just friends. Yeah. So one
Speaker 1: of my actions is on the show and I'm like
Speaker 1: best friends with her girlfriend. Okay, that's how you work. No,
Speaker 1: It's like it's like not even a thing. Everyone's I
Speaker 1: guess I'm weirre. It's like not even like a thing
Speaker 1: at all. I think it would be good. It'll be
Speaker 1: good because you don't really see many like dating shows,
Speaker 1: especially that just focus on like lesbian couples, right or
Speaker 1: like LGBTQ couples. So to be good to kind of
Speaker 1: get uh more perspective on it, right, Like, are you
Speaker 1: guys excited to share that part with the rest of
Speaker 1: the world at all? Um? Yes? And then so yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean the lesbian dating scene is just like something else.
Speaker 1: So like how copy was just explaining that you know
Speaker 1: her exes on the show and then she's like best
Speaker 1: friends with the ex girls. Like that is so normal,
Speaker 1: like lesbians just like like you know, your ex girlfriend
Speaker 1: becomes your best friend and then like your best friend
Speaker 1: is like hooking up with your acts and it's it's
Speaker 1: just fine, Like it's it's just how small the community is,
Speaker 1: and like, especially in Tampa, like everyone knows everyone, Like
Speaker 1: I want to say, like everyone's pretty much dated everyone
Speaker 1: or hooked up with everyone to like it. I mean
Speaker 1: people who are not used to like seeing that, or
Speaker 1: like you know, don't know about the lgbt Q like
Speaker 1: community and the relationships in that, Like they're going to
Speaker 1: be a little surprise for sure, Like it's something different.
Speaker 1: I don't think like straight people necessarily deal with those.
Speaker 1: I mean they do, but like not as often with
Speaker 1: those kinds of things. Well, I mean, relationships are hard
Speaker 1: enough as it is. And then yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other pressures and scrutiny that you're
Speaker 1: faced with just for for for being a lesbian. I'm
Speaker 1: sure I can't even imagine, but um, I guess on
Speaker 1: the same on the same topic, what kind of advice
Speaker 1: would you have for uh, maybe like other lesbian or
Speaker 1: gay people out there that are you know, just trying
Speaker 1: to like figure it all out. You guys have any
Speaker 1: advice you guys deal with that on the show as well,
Speaker 1: or like what kind of tips and advice do you
Speaker 1: have for them? My biggest thing is, don't try to
Speaker 1: like just because you see like one of these like
Speaker 1: cool tick Talker is doing like a thing or like
Speaker 1: a look like doesn't mean you, like you don't have
Speaker 1: to look like everybody else. I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of lesbians trying to sway to look a certain way
Speaker 1: to like get a girlfriend or to like be accepted,
Speaker 1: or like I'm seeing like these girls chop their hair
Speaker 1: off because they're like, oh, like the the memre masculine
Speaker 1: lesbians are getting more attendance, So I'm gonna do this,
Speaker 1: like just do you and you'll be fine. It just
Speaker 1: it sucks to see people like having to like fit
Speaker 1: a mold, and I think that was part of our
Speaker 1: coming into the show. My biggest thing is like we
Speaker 1: like we don't really fit a mold for like the
Speaker 1: way we all look for like a lesbians and if
Speaker 1: you watch like a lesbian like movie or show. It's all.
Speaker 1: It's usually not like a fem looking lesbian that you see.
Speaker 1: It's usually a more masculine lesbian you see, unless they're
Speaker 1: watching porn. And it's like you can like literally look
Speaker 1: however you want to look and like be yourself and
Speaker 1: be gay and be fine and it's cool. And I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people don't feel like that's acceptable.
Speaker 1: So that's like my biggest thing. Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: great advice also to add on that, Like, um, I
Speaker 1: feel like when people watch Tampa Base, you're kind of
Speaker 1: kind of going to see like you know, of course
Speaker 1: there's like drama between all of us and like, you know,
Speaker 1: we were closer maybe when the show started and after
Speaker 1: it ended and things like that. But like Tampa and
Speaker 1: like the scene, the gay scene here, like it's really accepting.
Speaker 1: And I think that like anyone who's like trying to
Speaker 1: like you know, figure out themselves and being in the
Speaker 1: gay scene, they really need to like put themselves if
Speaker 1: they can, in an environment where there are other gay
Speaker 1: people and they're accepting of it. Like I mean, like
Speaker 1: Tampa is just such a like good community to like
Speaker 1: be yourself, be diverse, like it's totally accepted, and like
Speaker 1: I hope people see that too as the show airs.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I would just say for people out
Speaker 1: there like trying to, you know, navigate through the gay scene,
Speaker 1: like surround yourself with people who are accepting and that
Speaker 1: obviously are also good people. But yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: like the the biggest thing I would say. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's great advice. I think that's definitely a good
Speaker 1: place to start, especially if they're confused or scared or
Speaker 1: anything that. Um, are you guys gonna be watching the
Speaker 1: show back when it premieres or is it gonna be
Speaker 1: one of those things where you just like decide you
Speaker 1: don't want to see yourself on tv? Um, I'm definitely
Speaker 1: watching that. Absolutely, I'm definitely watching that. Like I don't
Speaker 1: even watch reality TV. I'm gonna can you watch this show?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna have like a watch party or anything?
Speaker 1: There is? There is kind of one like some of
Speaker 1: the Bays want to throw on um like host one whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I might do it, but like
Speaker 1: I might not. I don't know. I think I kind
Speaker 1: of want to watch it on my own and the
Speaker 1: privacy in my own home, Like no one around me,
Speaker 1: so if like something embarrassing happens, I can just be like,
Speaker 1: it's fine, literally be embarrassed alone. You're like talking about
Speaker 1: someone in an interview and they're like in the same
Speaker 1: room with you watching, and you're like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: oh my god, I evedn't think about that. That's that's
Speaker 1: gonna be the worst. Are sure we learned the term?
Speaker 1: I know, Dan, you probably let the Franken bite thing like,
Speaker 1: I'm terrified. Yeah, I literally have no no filter, and
Speaker 1: so I'm so terrified that I've been a victim of
Speaker 1: the franken bite many times. I think it's unavoidable. I
Speaker 1: think reality TV is just one of those things where
Speaker 1: you have to accept the franken biting. And it's actually
Speaker 1: kind of guys, Can I get a definition because I
Speaker 1: actually don't know where it's where they use like different
Speaker 1: audio clips of you saying like it's like four different things,
Speaker 1: but they clip it together to make you sound like
Speaker 1: you're saying something like that. Yeah, they're totally gonna leaf
Speaker 1: with that for sure. Like this, I would say, even
Speaker 1: when the mics were still on and the cameras were off,
Speaker 1: like I'm terrified, I'd like Oh, the cameras are off
Speaker 1: hading like oh this bitch, and I'd like pop off
Speaker 1: and I'd like, oh, the MIC's on. Yeah, you might
Speaker 1: get in some troble with that. But the nice thing
Speaker 1: is if you do say something mean or bad, you
Speaker 1: can always just blame it on the frank and frank
Speaker 1: in biting and you'd like the whole show on that.
Speaker 1: My mouth is gonna line up to what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna blame with I being the edited, the
Speaker 1: c g I or something. I don't know exactly what. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: you guys, thank you so much for coming on and
Speaker 1: sharing a little bit more about Tampa Bay's for the
Speaker 1: listeners out there. It's on Prime Video, premieering on November five. Um,
Speaker 1: what about you guys like Instagram handles? Maybe so the
Speaker 1: followers can go and check you out on there too. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm at coupy c U P p I E underscore.
Speaker 1: That's my TikTok to um. All my socials are just
Speaker 1: my first and last name, So Sheba fish Dad, s
Speaker 1: h I V A p I s H D A
Speaker 1: D all my socials so nice. Well, So for the
Speaker 1: listeners out there, if you want to get more of
Speaker 1: Shiva and Cuppy, go to their Instagram or watch them
Speaker 1: on Tampa Bay's premiering on Prime Video November five. Um,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, guys, Yeah, thank you for having us.
Speaker 1: Ye are right, everybody, welcome back to help. I Suck
Speaker 1: at Dating And it's time for my favorite segment, as
Speaker 1: always is emails. We only have one email today, so
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and change that for next week. Please
Speaker 1: email us at I Suck at Dating at I heeart
Speaker 1: media dot com. Um, send us some juicy dating stories,
Speaker 1: some questions. Whatever you got I suck at Dating at
Speaker 1: iHeart Media dot com. Mark, we got you. We got
Speaker 1: to use you. Man. Do you mind reading this email
Speaker 1: from Jesse for us? All right, Dan, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: This is from Jesse. She says, long story short. I
Speaker 1: drink in excess a little more than I should, especially
Speaker 1: in a social situation, to ease my anxiety. My husband,
Speaker 1: before our wedding told my bride's Amaze to try to
Speaker 1: keep my drinking to a minimum the day of our wedding,
Speaker 1: but me being me, I kept drinking champagne to try
Speaker 1: to feel less stressed about walking down the aisle. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to get drunk like I did, but I
Speaker 1: will admit there were some times I don't remember a
Speaker 1: lot of things the next day after my wedding. Overall,
Speaker 1: I think I was just a drunk pride trying to
Speaker 1: enjoy her day the best way I knew how liquid
Speaker 1: courage a lot of dancing. But now my husband and
Speaker 1: my family they were not happy with my choices. My
Speaker 1: mom told me I embarrassed myself and the family and
Speaker 1: didn't talk to me for nearly a month after. Since then,
Speaker 1: it's been hard for me to remember this day is amazing,
Speaker 1: even though I had a great time when those who
Speaker 1: attended said it was great. I guess I just need
Speaker 1: some reassurance or advice on how I can remember this
Speaker 1: special day without the negativity coming into play, or am
Speaker 1: I completely in the wrong and I owe everyone a
Speaker 1: sincere apology. Well, um, I'm gonna I'm mostly gonna take
Speaker 1: a back seat on this one because I've never had
Speaker 1: a wedding and you guys have, so you can speak
Speaker 1: from experience. But I do want to just point out
Speaker 1: one thing. Uh, it sounds like Jesse, you had a
Speaker 1: great time and your friends had a great time, and
Speaker 1: I think that's the most important thing. So Dean, if
Speaker 1: you've gotten drunk to the point of excess and possibly
Speaker 1: embarrassing yourself every time I drink alcohol, yes, of course,
Speaker 1: but I understand the gravity of a of a thing
Speaker 1: like a wedding, right, So I mean, what was your
Speaker 1: guys experience with their like, what kind of what's your
Speaker 1: take I guess, well, I mean, look, I've never been
Speaker 1: drunk to that point. I've never been drunk period, but
Speaker 1: I did have a wedding. So here's here's my take
Speaker 1: out it this is the world we live in. Is
Speaker 1: sugarcoating everything that happens to us. That's Instagram, that's all.
Speaker 1: I have hundreds of family videos on the computer downstairs.
Speaker 1: Watching those, you would think we are the most perfect
Speaker 1: family with the happiest children that have ever existed in
Speaker 1: the history of the world. They have perfect lives and
Speaker 1: they've never been sad and are upset about anything. That's
Speaker 1: what we do. So when you have the wedding, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you have video from the wedding and photos from
Speaker 1: the wedding. When you put those all together, it's gonna
Speaker 1: look like the greatest day of your life. And that
Speaker 1: can be the reality of it. Your mom is going
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more sensitive because she's your mom,
Speaker 1: your husband a little bit too. But if your friend
Speaker 1: said they had a great time, I would just focus
Speaker 1: on that and watching that video and everything was hunky
Speaker 1: dory that day. Is that denial maybe, But that's up
Speaker 1: to you to determine how much denial that is. And
Speaker 1: if it's too much, you might want to get some
Speaker 1: help with your drinking or with the psychology behind needing
Speaker 1: to drink in social situations. So it's twofold, maybe look
Speaker 1: into that. But also, it was what it was. You
Speaker 1: can't change anything about it. Now do your best to
Speaker 1: make it look as great as possible, and that will
Speaker 1: become your memory of it. Yeah, And you know, I
Speaker 1: was thinking, like it sounds like the mom is the
Speaker 1: only one that really like came to her and said
Speaker 1: you you got way to blast it at your wedding.
Speaker 1: But like, if if it was a real problem, like
Speaker 1: she would have had a bunch of other it would
Speaker 1: have been a parent like so many friends would have
Speaker 1: been like, hey, is everything okay? You know, like stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But like it sounds like everything was fine.
Speaker 1: So you know, I had a great wedding. I everything
Speaker 1: went perfectly, and uh, and my parents had stuff to
Speaker 1: say afterwards, you know, things that they would have changed
Speaker 1: in differently. But you know what, it's not their wedding.
Speaker 1: It was my wedding and I had a great time.
Speaker 1: So that's the way I look at it. I really
Speaker 1: think that's the root of it all too. It's your wedding,
Speaker 1: and if you had a good time, that's all that matters. Right.
Speaker 1: It's like your it's not your mom's wedding, it's not
Speaker 1: your uh, your family member's wedding. It's your wedding. So like,
Speaker 1: if you have fun, that's the most important thing. And
Speaker 1: to Mark's point too, it's like, yeah, you might not
Speaker 1: remember everything, but you probably had a wedding photographer and
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be able to look back at these
Speaker 1: photos and like relive the moments through the photos and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're going to be smiling and laughing, having
Speaker 1: a blast and all those So, um, just keep those
Speaker 1: good memories. But I do agree, like, if you're drinking
Speaker 1: a neccess a lot and it starts to become a problem,
Speaker 1: maybe you start to consider seeing some help for that. Uh,
Speaker 1: definitely not the worst thing in the world. I have
Speaker 1: some family members that have struggled with alcohol abuse as well.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, it's never a fun thing. But
Speaker 1: as long as it's like social and fun and you're
Speaker 1: happy with it and you don't see an issue, that's
Speaker 1: all that matters. Um, I will say to it's kind
Speaker 1: of funny how it comes full circle to what we
Speaker 1: were talking about at the beginning of the podcast mark
Speaker 1: where it's like, like it kind of matters, Like a
Speaker 1: wedding is a big day, there's no question about it,
Speaker 1: but like in the Grand scheme, it doesn't really like,
Speaker 1: no one died, no one's hurt, it doesn't really matter, right, Like, no,
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear some stories of what act really happened.
Speaker 1: But look, as long as she had a great time,
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. Because really it's the bride's day.
Speaker 1: And yes, your groom should have a good time as well.
Speaker 1: I get that, and I don't mean to be sexist
Speaker 1: or whatever, but really it's about the bride. That's the
Speaker 1: day she has dreamed up since she was a little girl.
Speaker 1: If you had a good time, that's great, Just move on.
Speaker 1: It's okay. Plus, if you really want a second wedding,
Speaker 1: just get divorced and go marry someone else and do
Speaker 1: it right the second time. I mean, why not? You know?
Speaker 1: That's that's uh, that's the tradition that we've built for
Speaker 1: ourselves here in America. All Right, well it's gonna do
Speaker 1: it for this week's episode of Help, I suck uh
Speaker 1: that that marriage? Wait? What's name of the podcast? Um?
Speaker 1: I am joking about that. Don't get divorced. Please, don't
Speaker 1: get divorced. Divorce is horrible, It's not good. I don't
Speaker 1: recommend it. Um. Thank you guys for co hosting this
Speaker 1: episode with me. I appreciate it. We uh you know,
Speaker 1: we definitely couldn't have done it without yet brings me
Speaker 1: back to the good old days when times were a
Speaker 1: little tougher. I was out here doing this by myself,
Speaker 1: stuck on an island. Really really painful stuff. But you
Speaker 1: guys always make it a little bit better. U um, Hanna,
Speaker 1: thanks for writing the rundown for us. As always, big
Speaker 1: thank you to us, Shiva and Cuppy for joining us.
Speaker 1: Be sure to watch Tampa Bay's on a Prime Video
Speaker 1: November five. Thanks to Jesse for having a fun drunk
Speaker 1: wedding and telling us about it. Keep emailing us I
Speaker 1: second Dating at iHeart media dot com. Um, let's do
Speaker 1: it live this time. I'll do the outro, live new things,
Speaker 1: be exciting. That that is exciting. I hope we answered
Speaker 1: Jesse's questions is sufficiently because I wanted to know that
Speaker 1: it's okay, and I was just rereading again I felt
Speaker 1: really bad. Um, that's gonna do it for this week's episode.
Speaker 1: Be sure to tune next week where maybe we suck
Speaker 1: just a little bit less. Follow Hell I suck at
Speaker 1: Dating on I Heart Radio or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Speaker 1: That was magic. That's like watching Michael Jordan's shoot a
Speaker 1: three pointer for Tiger would hit a golf ball that
Speaker 1: was just unbelievable.