1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Do what's right. 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Leave now. 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected. 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: All right, guys, welcome back, Hall of Fame Edition alisia 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: E y L. This is something that this is big 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 4: for us. This is a big day for us. So 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 4: first and foremost, we gotta thank our god, Kenny Burns. 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: Shout out to the legend. 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: Shout out to. 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: Kenny Man, good, good, good, genuine dude. Without him, this 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 4: wouldn't have been possible. He connected the dots for us. 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: So Earn, Elisia, you know, we've been checking off our 27 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: bucket list. We interviewed Shaquille O'Neil, We've interviewed our favorites 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: from a long list of different people. I don't want 29 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: to forget anybody, but you know, it's one person that 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 4: early on, early on, we already had two people. Early on, 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 4: we had Nipsey Hustle and we had Dame Dash and 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 4: Dame was really an inspiration for us as far as 33 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: we're a business podcast, not something that probably would have 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: been as popular at it as it has been if 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: maybe he didn't push the envelope of business and entertainment 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: and being independent for so long. And he had a 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: legendary breakfast club interview that changed changed a lot of 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: people's lives for so you know, needs no introduction, but entrepreneur, 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 4: family man, record executive, film producer, a director, actor, fashion designer, father. Yeah, 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: I said, family Man. We're in his studios right now, 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 4: so you can't tell this this is gonna be this 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 4: is gonna be a good one. So, first and foremost, Dame, 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Man, thank you work, welcome on your leisure. 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for the intro. Nember was a 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: record executive always on the label though. 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 4: Okay, so Dan, let's get into me. We want to 47 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: talk about a lot of different things here. But the 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: first thing I want to talk about. We in your 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: studios and it's in the middle of a global pandemic. 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 4: But the thing that you actually told us is something 51 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 4: that it's true for us and a lot of other 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: people that we've interviewed on our show, is that you know, 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 4: it's actually been a situation where you're actually lucrative and 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 4: during this time for creatives content creatives. So you actually 55 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: own a studio a network. So I want to talk 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 4: about that because I haven't really heard you speak about 57 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: it too much, and I feel like a lot of 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: interviews they ask kind of the same question. So you know, 59 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: own in a studio, owning a network. We're gonna get 60 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: into the nitty gritty of it. But what's the idea 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 4: behind that? Like what made you want to go into 62 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: that world? 63 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: Well, was you know, your relations it was on my 64 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: bucket list to have a network, but residual income became 65 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: really important to me because as I was getting older, 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't feel like being so social. 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't feel like being around people so much, especially 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: people I don't like it. And I wanted to be 69 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: able to earn money while I was by the pool 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: and do it when I felt like it. So, you know, 71 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: in my experiences with making movies and with percentages I 72 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: owned through certain movies, I was like, damn if I 73 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: made my own movies, owned them one hundred percent. And 74 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: when the Internet came, because it's a director consumer relationship, 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: I could sell it directly to them. You know. You 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: can remember even back at the breakfast club, I was like, 77 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: cut out the middleman. Yeah, there's an Internet. So I 78 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: just think I grasped the reality of what was happening 79 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: because I was looking for it. I was looking for 80 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: independence and the Internet gave me that and having the 81 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: wherewithal to make content, you know, observing content is cool. 82 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: I went through that phase. But to get residual income, 83 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: you have to be able to do something that people 84 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: want to see over and over again, which is scripted, 85 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: something with the beginning middle and end produced a certain way, 86 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: and you know, in this moment it's a crowded block. 87 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: I think a lot of what people are doing right 88 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: now is good, but you know it would have been 89 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: better if you had realized it ten years ago. It 90 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: was there. So now instead of being weight, you're two 91 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: for fives. You know, you're a trade and you have 92 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: to hustle on a crowded block. You know, I was preparing, 93 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: not to say for this moment, but for the moment 94 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: that I could just completely do what I want, when 95 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: I want, how I want by the pool. So when 96 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: the pandemic happened, it was perfect. People were home, any 97 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: things to watch. I had a lot of content to edit. 98 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: I own all the cameras. I have a studio. I 99 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: don't have but five people in my studio. Anyway, you see, 100 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 2: when you came in here, you had to get heavily 101 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: tens not even not only a test. I'm able to 102 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: also put the gun on you too, the heat gun. 103 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, diabetic, I understand it. But 104 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, a general has to 105 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: be able to move in the war. A soldier has 106 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: to be told what to do. A general prepares for 107 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: a war before it happens. I'm a general, so I 108 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: was preparing for a different war. The war and the 109 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: revolution has always been financial empowerment. It's always been able 110 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 2: to tell them to get the fuck out my face. 111 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: I'll do it on my own and be confident. And 112 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: that's always the way I've approached things. I've always known 113 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: that if they could do it, I could do it. Period. 114 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: I'm looking at my competition and they don't seem swaggier 115 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: than me. They don't seem cooler than me. They don't 116 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 2: seem tougher than me. You know, they're not built for this. 117 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: They seem to be told what to do. They seem 118 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: to be acting like it's theirs and it's not, you know. 119 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: And for me, it's like I have pets. I have 120 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: pet dogs, my puppies, and they depends on me for food. 121 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: They give me comfort. But I'd be like, I wonder 122 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: how they would have been able to survive on their 123 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: own if they had to actually kill something every day 124 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: to eat, they'd be a different kind of animal. So 125 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: when I look at me and I look at others, 126 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm just like, yo, I'm a different kind of animal. 127 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: You're a puppy. You're there for somebody's entertainment. You get fed, 128 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: and you gotta be nice. I'm a wild animal, I'm 129 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: a killer eat before somebody gives me anything. I like 130 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: the way that feels. 131 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, you started at the beginning of the pandemic. You 132 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 5: said that you had to create content challenge. But within 133 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 5: that you went into the definition of why content is 134 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 5: so important because when you have a lot of it, 135 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 5: you create a catalog. And as you create a catalog, 136 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 5: now you can license in Can you get into that 137 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 5: a little bit. 138 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like anything residual income. People will pay 139 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: to borrow it or rent it from you so that 140 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: they can put commercials or have people pay for it. 141 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: So let's say a BG wants to license one of 142 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: my movies. Appliged, I need four hundred thousand for three years, 143 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: but you're gonna give it back as soon as the 144 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: three years is done. And you could only have the 145 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: rights for television, not digital or anything else. And that 146 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: exists for every form from Facebook to digital probably Instagram 147 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: in a minute, you know what I mean. So, yeah, 148 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: that's what licensing is. 149 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: So your model, I know you have the subscription, so 150 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: you do a little bit of both. You do the 151 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 4: subscription service and you do the licensing, or is it 152 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: like some of that. 153 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: That's just an ancillary thing, is the licensing. But at 154 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: the end of the day, right now, it's a streatment service. 155 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: But there's also a twenty four hour network that it 156 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: goes over the air in Charlotte, and there's now I'll 157 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: be able to go and have the twenty four hour 158 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: network playing from the actual app, So you'll be able 159 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: to go watch television and have the television experience, or 160 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: you could pay and subscribe and you'll be able to 161 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: get it on demand. 162 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this commercials let me ask you. 163 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: This, but also let me say one more thing. One 164 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: of the other reasons why it was important for me 165 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: to have and have my own network was because it 166 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: was like, I'm selling music, and they use music in networks. 167 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: I'm selling clothes and everybody got to wear clothes. At 168 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: the time, I was selling weed. I smoke weed in 169 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: the content. So it also becomes a commercial for everything. 170 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: So if you watch on or up, I made the clothes, 171 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: I made the music. You know, I made the sunglasses. 172 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: Everything that you see could be brought from me. So 173 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: it also becomes a commercial for my ancile. 174 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 4: Every products CRUs branding. 175 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: They could buy it directly from me, so it's a 176 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: store and it comes home shopping network while you're watching it. 177 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: And in the television business, traditionally a network will pay 178 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: a production company. They'll buy their idea and then pay 179 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: them to execute it. So all these ideas, these black shows, 180 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: they come from black people. But the only way a 181 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 2: network will take the show as if it comes from 182 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: a white production company such as E one. People like 183 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: Tara Long and we Channel will only take our black 184 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: stories if they're made and budgets controlled by white people. 185 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: So I walk into E one, I see posters of 186 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: black families all over the wall, but in the offices 187 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: I only see white people and the dysfunction that they 188 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: cause and try to capture. They always want to put 189 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: a camera on us. We can turn a camera on them. Oh, 190 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: get that camera off me. I'm not signing off and 191 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: all that they want us to make fools of ourselves. 192 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: Capture that narrative, play it over and over again so 193 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: you believe it. And they want to make sure that 194 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: they're not seen at all, and they never exploit their 195 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: own culture. So I look at channels like VH one 196 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: and look at what's the most The biggest thing on 197 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: the network is our dysfunction. I look at WE Channel 198 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: and they try to make us as legends, look like 199 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: dysfunctional people and actually do things to make it appear 200 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: that way. And then the other programming is jail. You know, 201 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 2: it's embarrassing watching the WE channel Life after Jail. It's 202 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: embarrassing making money. So my network isn't about the distractions 203 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: and those patterns that they put into our brain, all 204 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: data to make us think that we're less of who 205 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: we are. And my network is about health, about like 206 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: if we got diabetes, I got diabetes, so there's a 207 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: dash Diabetes network. You know, we don't recognize trauma. The 208 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: racism and the day to day life that we just 209 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: think is normal is trauma, and we don't get therapy. 210 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: And when we do get therapy, it's based on research 211 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: done on white people, because black people don't get therapy 212 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: to get research done on it. So we don't know 213 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: how to recognize our own trauma, and we don't know 214 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: how to help ourselves. We think being fucked up and 215 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: being depressed is normal and it's not. We don't teach finance. 216 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: It's an empowerment on television. We get taught yo, take 217 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: a short price so you can make some money going 218 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: to the strip club. Build your brand that way. Be 219 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: stupid and act crazy so people will pay to actually 220 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: talk crazy to you in person. 221 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 5: So what's that process like? Right you said that the 222 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 5: network is in Charlotte. 223 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: Right now it's also over there. 224 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 5: It has it been tough with actual I guess big 225 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 5: networks trying to broadcast it or syndicate it or what 226 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 5: has that process been like for you? 227 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: I mean, right now, I'm just opening up shops. So 228 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: it's been cool. It's been easy as fuck. It's been 229 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: having information and understanding it and applying it the ship. 230 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: They don't teach us. It's been expensive figuring it out, 231 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: but it's been worth it and it's been fun. 232 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: So let me let me ask you this. So I 233 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: don't want to compare you to Netflix, but I'm just 234 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: using them as an example. Definitely compare me to all 235 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: right even better. So Netflix, if anybody's not familiar to eight, 236 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 4: they spend the most money out of any TV station 237 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: in the world on original content, and they're also heavily 238 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: in debt. 239 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: Like let me explain that to you. 240 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: Okay, I was gonna ask you a question. So they 241 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: spend so much money that their profit margins are extremely 242 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 4: thin because they spend it. 243 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: Apparently, I don't think that's their business model, Okay. I 244 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: think their business model is buying content and then leveraging 245 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: it later. But in the beginning, they were licensing, and 246 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: that's the reason why they lost so much money was 247 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 2: because they were licensing. And then when they did their 248 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: own original programming, I think it was called House of Cards, 249 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: that changed the whole game for them. But every year 250 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: they do lose a billion dollars, but they raise a 251 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: billion dollars. But they at the end of the day, 252 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: there's probably one company that's just for and you know 253 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: they own stars too, by the way, so basically they 254 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: can incubate one there and put it there. And I 255 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: think one company is really primarily for I'm not saying 256 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: that I know it, but if I was betting man, 257 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: I would think one is for the subscriptions, which is 258 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: a loss, but they could raise money and blah blah blah. 259 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: And the other is for the content that they own 260 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,359 Speaker 2: that they can leverage that they're beginning residual income from 261 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: because they actually are paying people to make shit that 262 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: they own. 263 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 4: Well yeah, so, but my question was as far as 264 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: creating content that is expensive, that's why they have to 265 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: borrow money, I'm assuming how does that relate to you? 266 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: Like, that's a skem. They're just paying for fucking you know, 267 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: too much money for craft services and shit. I own 268 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: all the cameras, so I cut out all that bullshit. 269 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: I could do everything, so I ain't got to pay 270 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: it riter. I't got to outsource the production company. I 271 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: and the production company. I gotta rent no cameras. I 272 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: got the cameras. I ain't got to rent no editing base. 273 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: I got the editing base. And if I gotta act, 274 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna jump in front of that shit and do 275 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: it too. 276 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: Funding all your projects, honey. 277 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: And all right, so you pretty much it's a more 278 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: efficient manner as far as not just paying this this crue, 279 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 4: that crue, that cruel to shoot this. Everything is in house, 280 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 4: so it's it's it's less because the reason why I'm asking, because. 281 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: I know, yeah, outsourcing makes no sense because then people 282 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: make up jobs to get paid for. It cuts out 283 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: a lot of bullshit when you know how to do 284 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 2: it yourself. See, I'm not only administrative, I'm creating. So 285 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: people be thinking that shit is normal that I could direct, act, right, 286 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: play instruments, you know, just do everything. When I say 287 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: I direct something like some people are just known for 288 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: directing and that's it. That's all they do. When I 289 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: say I'm directing something like, oh yeah it that's danme 290 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: he directs. Oh shit, he's acting and he's not an actor. 291 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: But it's dang, like, you don't recognize me as an actor. 292 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: You don't look at me as a director. You don't 293 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: look at me as a producer. You don't look at 294 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: me as a fashion icon and a fashion you know, Like, 295 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: but I do all these things, and I've started all 296 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: these businesses from scratch, all the things that people went 297 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: to school for. I dominated at a very young age. 298 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: No, I think we do recognize you as well. 299 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like it's just normal. Yeah. Yeah, it's 300 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: like they think it's normal. Yeah, but yesterday Nicolett had 301 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: a show. I picked up a guitar and started playing. 302 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: It's just that's not normal. 303 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 4: So if the fashion industry, I heard somewhere where you 304 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: were saying that the profit margins are extremely low in 305 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 4: the fashion industry. That's something that you was involved in. 306 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: But I don't think you're really involved in fashion anymore. 307 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 4: Like you, what's your how's your experience? Because you've had 308 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: several different multi million dollar companies you've had, what's your 309 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: experience in a fashion world? Because that's a whole different 310 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: conversation as well. The fashion industry. 311 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: I feel like the fashion world is you have to 312 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 2: build the brand first, and you have to lose money 313 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: for a little while before you gain it. But if 314 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: you actually build your brand doing something else and you 315 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: have to wherewithal to actually make clothing and content not content, 316 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: clothing with a point of view, then you could have 317 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: a direct to consumer relationship. It doesn't have to be 318 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: so not so profitable. So traditionally the fashion business sucks 319 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: if you're going through it where you have to order 320 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: a bunch of inventory ahead of time, whether people are 321 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: gonna buy it or not. You got to plan, you 322 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: got to put it up. If somebody orders a million 323 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: dollars worth of shit, unless you got five hundred thousand 324 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: to not be able to touch for like six months, 325 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: then you can't do it. Like growth can kill you. 326 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: But in this day and age, if you go to 327 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: a factory, make your clothes and sell it directly to 328 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: your consumer, market it by yourself because it's your point 329 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: of view. You have Instagram. There's so many ways to 330 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: do things now, so the traditional way of doing things. 331 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: It makes it where a normal person would need an 332 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: institution and have to sell his whole soul a way 333 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: to get it done. What I've been trying to explain 334 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: to people for years is you don't have to do that. 335 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: No more. People are just catching on. But I've been 336 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: saying it for years. 337 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 5: You've been I mean, you've helped and mentored and pretty 338 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 5: much started a lot of brands. Race Roy obviously you've helped, 339 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 5: obviously mentored. Yeah, is there other people right now that 340 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 5: you're looking at? Are you still involved in that process 341 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 5: of mentoring and giving people the guidance in the fashion ustry? 342 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: In fashion? Yeah, yeah, that's what Poppington is. That's my fashion. 343 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: So we make clothes, we make socks, you know, we 344 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: make all we make everything, and but right now it's 345 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: about really building the brand and at some point I 346 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: license it out. 347 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, any anyone else in general. 348 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: Am I looking to teach people? I mean, Nick could 349 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 2: learn from watching me, But you know, teaching people takes 350 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: time for my dreams sometimes, so I teach people through 351 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: the interviews. 352 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm happy if you go. 353 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: To Poppington University on Dame Dad's studios and there's usually 354 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: a clinic on. 355 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: Something I want to I want to ask you a 356 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: question because we in the age of. 357 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 2: What can I do this? And neglect in the background? 358 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: Can you show the streaming service just fuck around with 359 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: a little bit? I'm sorry? And also nicglect she has 360 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: an album coming out, a movie coming out, a TV show. 361 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: Anyone that works for me or works with me has 362 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: to have a dream because you can't fight for my dream. 363 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: If you can't fight for your own, just won't happen. 364 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 365 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 5: I literally wrote down that quote. I'm like, that's dope. 366 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 5: And I hear you talk about your dreams a lot, 367 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 5: but in my mind, I'm like, I've never really heard 368 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: you say what your ultimate dream is. I know you 369 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 5: see it, you're involved in so much, but what's the 370 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 5: ultimate dream? 371 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: For dam dash, I. 372 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: Don't know what the ultimate is because every time I 373 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: have a dream, I make it happen and I have 374 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: another dream, you know, so my ultimate dream is to 375 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: be like LV and Match and Disney at one time, 376 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 2: but also to have and it's happening. So, you know, 377 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: I see my brother Kanye, and he's making deals that 378 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: make me very proud, you know, and I get to 379 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: go visit him and the way he can treat me, 380 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: the way he fronts on me. 381 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 5: So like when he when he's doing these deals like 382 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 5: the Gap deal he just did, is he hitting you up? 383 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 3: Like yo, damn about to do this? 384 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: He's like, that's the one thing we don't do is 385 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: talk about what we talk about. 386 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha, I can say this. 387 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm always giving him that I'm proud of you call 388 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: you know always I. 389 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 4: Want to talk about something in fashion. But since we're 390 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: on Kanye Kanye Global icon and correct me if I'm wrong. 391 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: But I believe you was like the first person to 392 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 4: really believe in his vision to rap. He a producer, 393 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: but you you saw something and. 394 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: He earned the right to believe in his vision to 395 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 2: rap because he helped so many of my artists. I 396 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: didn't really care if he could rap or not. You know, 397 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: do what you want to do, Bro. 398 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 3: You just gave us too many hit records. The first 399 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: time we heard him. 400 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 4: Was that did you see like, obviously nobody can predict 401 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 4: the future, but did you see something special? Like, all right, 402 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: this dude is different. He's not just a regular producer, 403 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 4: Like he's different. Nah in the beginning, Okay, honestly. 404 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: In the beginning he was you know, it was like 405 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: he was at the level. It was him and just 406 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: just Blaze. Yeah, and they both were making rapid hits. 407 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: Did I see him being a fashion kind Nah? Because 408 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: first he only used to wear polo, So I used 409 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: to be like, yo, that's not fashion. 410 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 3: I could imagine those conversations. 411 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: You know. I took him to London and showed him ship. 412 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: Did I know he was gonna be the Like when 413 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: I talked to Kanye, he says, Yo, I'm the living, 414 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: breathing dragon of everything that you want to be. 415 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 3: And he really is manifested dragon energy. 416 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: So we in the age of protests, like and I 417 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 4: always say support goes I've. 418 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: Been in the life of protest though, but let me 419 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: let me I got you. 420 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 4: I always say that support goes a lot further than boycott. 421 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is that, like, so 422 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 4: the Gucci thing when they do the black face and 423 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 4: they and they protest and they come to Harlem and 424 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: have like a sit down and it's like boycotted for 425 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: three months, then we're back warning Gucci again or Burberry 426 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 4: or whatever. So and this is another story that I heard. 427 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: I don't know for sure or not, but I apparently 428 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: when you guys had Rockaware, you try to approach I 429 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: think Iceberg at the time, and they said no, they 430 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 4: wasn't interested. 431 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: It was disrespectful. 432 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: Can you tell that story? 433 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: It was wearing Iceberg. So I went to them. I 434 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: think the head of sales was knowing how come the 435 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: ship with spiking? And I went to go meet with 436 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: them and me and Jay and it was like, you know, 437 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 2: they're just very dismissive. They didn't want to give us 438 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: any free clothes. They told us we could go to 439 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: a sample set and I was like, all right, I'm 440 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: putting you out of business. Try I started rock with literally. 441 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 4: So But the reason why I liked that story is 442 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 4: because like, instead of like you started rockaway and then 443 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 4: it just blew up and became a massive success, but 444 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 4: you focus your energy on your own thing as opposed 445 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 4: to trying to be included in somebody else's situation. 446 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: So it's because I'm a general, I'm not a soldier. Well, 447 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: that's what people have to understand. A soldier is never 448 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: going to check a general, and you know you can't 449 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: have but so much expectation of a soldier or someone 450 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: with a slave mentality. They resent your independence and I 451 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: had to learn that. 452 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 4: So do you feel that more emphasis should be put 453 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 4: on supporting and growing, especially for black people their own 454 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: businesses as a post still trying to be included, and 455 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 4: diversity programs and other people's businesses. 456 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer. If you don't want me in 457 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: your house or I don't like your rules, fuck your house. 458 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: If I'm buying your house and kicking you out, I'm 459 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: a build a bigger one and be more comfortable, and 460 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: you can't come over. And that's the way I approach 461 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: things and always have. 462 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 5: So another thing, another area, and I wasn't aware of 463 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 5: it and it wasn't common to us. But you were 464 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 5: involved in art before any of us thought it was cool. 465 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 5: And you know, you had your art galley and try 466 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: it back or correct? 467 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. See, so ain't niole? Can you take them to? 468 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 2: Can you take them to? 469 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 4: Uh? 470 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: We went to Jamaica episode one because you know. The 471 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: good thing about it is talking that ship sounds good 472 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: and I could show you what I was doing. You 473 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: feel me, Yeah, but I heard you don't have to 474 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: visualize it, but we can still talk watch it. 475 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, people were trying to figure out how you're making 476 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 5: money off out Galley, so I heard and correct me 477 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 5: if I'm wrong. But your things like you would find 478 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 5: a talent by all their artwork and then travel around 479 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: the world to people can see it, and that would 480 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 5: raise the value of it. 481 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: Is that true? 482 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? You listen, this is what I was trying to 483 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: get people to understand that. That was two thousand and nine, 484 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: broy Ten, It's twenty twenty right now. 485 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: Fat visionary Troy appreciates that. So shout shout out to 486 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 4: the Jamaican masks. 487 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you should check that out. I want to 488 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: go see ciszls. I was in Judgment Yards getting high 489 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: with Sizzler. Don't get no better than that. 490 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: Definitely doesn't. 491 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: Dang. 492 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 4: One of the things that you know, a lot of 493 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 4: people talk about in business is that you have to 494 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 4: be diplomatic. 495 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: I know you don't. 496 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 4: You don't believe in that. 497 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: Listen. I used to be a drug dealer, when your 498 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: drugs are good, you ain't gotta be nice. You be like, yo, 499 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: get online. I'm not taking no singles and they happy 500 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: to because they're gonna get high. If you're getting your 501 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: client high, all you have to do is make sure 502 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: they get high and they'll stay on that line. 503 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough. So when you when you talk about 504 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 4: your music industry career, right, because a lot of people 505 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 4: obviously you've done so many different things. When you start, well, 506 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 4: I don't say you start, but that's what really kind 507 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 4: of you know, puts you on the radar far for 508 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: most people knowing you is music. So the first thing 509 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: I did, all right, well you start, So you have 510 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 4: a foul tasting your mouth about the music industry or 511 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 4: are you still like optimistic about music musicians? Like, yeah, 512 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 4: what's your what's your what's your vibe on music? Because 513 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 4: I feel like this. 514 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: I'll tell you the industry is fake, full of shit. 515 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: It's all about exploiting artists and hurting them and just 516 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: taking all of their energy. Music is alive, but the 517 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: music industry is a first. 518 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: So for up and coming artists yourself, no no record label, 519 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 4: no man, it can work for. 520 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: You, you know, don't do a record deal where you 521 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: have to sell your whole ass three sixty, be so hot, 522 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: do your own shows, do your own residencies, and when 523 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: they come through, be like, you'll give me some money, 524 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: but it'll be the distribute to shit that I own, 525 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 2: period or get out my fucking office, my club or whatever. 526 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 5: So that was the purpose of your underground one hundred, right. 527 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 5: You know I read that you were like, listen, I'm 528 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 5: only doing a hundred because I know that these people 529 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 5: are the localized fans. 530 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: These people want to do a. 531 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: Hundred of the coolest people. I don't need no nerdy 532 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: motherfuckers around me. If you cool enough to know that 533 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: it's going on right, and you cool enough to beat it, 534 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: and you cool. But if I don't want no corny motherfuckers, 535 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: they could get it ten years later. I don't like 536 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: to be around cool people. I've always art detected my bubble. 537 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: I only want to be around cool opinion leaders, like 538 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: minded people, and I filter and I edit people. 539 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: You said something in that Breakfast Club interview that was, 540 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 4: you know, very controversial. I think I understood what you meant, 541 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 4: but that another one things that kind of live forever, 542 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: where you said you put money in the street. You know, 543 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 4: you're not really into saving too much, so I'm assuming 544 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: what you meant by that as you you know, you're 545 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 4: reinvesting your money into your businesses like all money in 546 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: Like Nip said, is that something that you still well, hey, 547 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 4: am I right by that interpretation? And is that something 548 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 4: that you still kind of live? 549 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: But I don't see the purpose of holding money. I 550 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: don't see the purpose. It's all about flipping and at 551 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: the end of the day, like everything I do is 552 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: for my children. You know, when I get money, it 553 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: goes to my kids. 554 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 5: I think you know, that was like the when I 555 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 5: said that, that interview and a couple other ones changed 556 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 5: my life. I think that was the most important thing 557 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 5: that I heard just working in education. And then when 558 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 5: you were saying like, yo, if you're doing something for yourself, 559 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 5: then you're selfish, and I kind of like resonated it. 560 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 5: I'm just like damn, And in my mind, I'm like, look, 561 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 5: I'm doing this. I've been busting my ass for ten 562 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 5: years in the education field. 563 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: Countless you know. 564 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: I talked to the OSG network ninety principles like principles. 565 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, heard about I forgot Gentleman's name. But I mean 566 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: I got in touch with him and called them last 567 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 4: week and yes. 568 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: Oh I'll get you with him. Yeah. Yeah, of education, 569 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: so my thing was put together quite a crew. 570 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, we touch base that. 571 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 5: At that point, I was like, yo, for all his 572 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 5: work I'm doing, I can't give this degree to my son. 573 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: I can't give this degree to my daughter one. 574 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 5: Perfect, But yeah, that that changed my mindset, was like, yo, 575 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 5: it was just an entrepreneurial mindset, even though I was 576 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 5: working in a nine to five or nine of three 577 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 5: for education, was like, yo, we got to create something. 578 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 5: I got to create something or scale something so that 579 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 5: it could be passed on. So when I say like 580 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 5: it changed my life, Like that was it. But there's 581 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 5: a quote that that you say, and I want to 582 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 5: know if it's a long term goal? Is it short 583 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 5: term goals that you put inside of the quote and 584 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 5: you say every day start something new, finish something new? 585 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: Is that something starts start something new and finished something 586 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: that you had started before? 587 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: Every day? 588 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, And we talked, are we're talking so like what 589 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 5: would be a prime example of that? 590 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 2: We just started something new today? And the editor is 591 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: he still here? Georgia Shire? There you go, right, there, 592 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: We're gonna finish that. O g stories to that today. 593 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 4: That's a fact. A lot of people listen to us, 594 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: aspiring entrepreneurs, young entrepreneurs, right, people, that's you know, learning, 595 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: because that's the thing about this is one of the 596 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 4: reasons why I think our podcast has become so popular, 597 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 4: especially in our culture. 598 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: It's not a podcast, so I'll show. 599 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 4: The brand is bigger than the podcast. 600 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: But you said it's not a podcast, Okay. 601 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 4: This is one of the reasons why people like the 602 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 4: show so much, right, is that it's menship. 603 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna you have to talk your ship into existence 604 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: if you call on the podcast, then that's all it. 605 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 4: Is, all right. One of the reasons why people were 606 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 4: like Earn Your Leasure is because it performed. It provides mentorship, right, 607 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: instead of people just having to figure out on their own, 608 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: they can learn from people that actually have going through 609 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 4: it and learn from their their ups and the down. 610 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: So as far as like business, do you have any 611 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 4: any regrets that you might have done things like differently 612 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 4: or maybe handled something differently, whether it's relationships or business 613 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: or anything. 614 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy, right, Honestly, every single second of 615 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: my life is meant in everyone else's life. I think 616 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 2: it's meant to be a learning experience. So when something 617 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: happens that didn't go the way you wanted it to, 618 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: you look at what you learn from it, right, And 619 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: there's been businesses that I got completely robbed for short paper, 620 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: but what I learned from it protected me from getting 621 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: robbed for big paper. Do you understand what I'm saying. 622 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, I'm so happy 623 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: in this very moment, I'm so happy, like scary happy, 624 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 625 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: I think that's a misconception in the matter. 626 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: In the middle of a pandemic, all my dreams are 627 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: coming true, which is crazy to me. So I would 628 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: have to say if there was anything that would stop 629 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: me from being this happy now or that would change 630 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: It's like, is there anything I could have done that 631 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: could have made me as happy as I am now? 632 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: I'm happy now because every decision that most people thought 633 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: would be tough, every business I walked away from, every 634 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: person I walked away from, every person that I punished 635 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: that everyone told me not to, from a Lee or 636 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: Cohen to a Harvey Weinstein. I'm glad I did it. 637 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 2: I'm glad I was in a position to do it. 638 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm that guy that these guys are known 639 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: to be bullies and I bullied them. I'm the bull 640 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: of bullies. I'm happy about that. So I love the 641 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: fact that these challenges and these tests are presented themselves 642 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: to me and I could get in the shower. I'm like, damn, 643 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: I really am a fucking superhero. I never ever waiver 644 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: when it comes to honor. Never have I've walked away 645 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: from people that no one would walk away from. I 646 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: balked on people that no one would balk on until 647 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: everyone is balking on it. I did it alone. I 648 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: saw him my lakem shaloon. I think I could take 649 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: them alone. That's one of my records. 650 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 4: Dang. So you said before the purpose of a business 651 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 4: is to start a business and the seller business. Is 652 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 4: that still? How you feel? Is just the goal with 653 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 4: what we're doing now with the studios? Is it the 654 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 4: multiple breakdown and sell it eventually? 655 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, either sell it or making so much money I 656 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: ain't gotta sell it, but yeah, yeah, usually if I 657 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: sell a businesses so I could start a new one. 658 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: But again, it's like, I'm so happy right now. I 659 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: like this life. That I'm living. I'm really happy. 660 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just watching you from afar As it 661 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 5: seems like you've got a good balance and it's. 662 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: Having a fucking ball. You know what it is to 663 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: be a rock star your whole life. I'm hitting fifty. 664 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, Yo, this ship ain't even slowing down. 665 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: You know. 666 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: That's why I be in the gym, Like I gotta 667 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: stay in shape for this life. I'm having mad fun. 668 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: Why would I stop having fun. I'm having mad fun 669 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: and I'm productive while I'm having I'm making money off 670 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: having fun, and I'm learning so much more, and I'm 671 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: around the people I want to be around. I'm like, damn, 672 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: I wish I could have fucking figured this shit out earlier. 673 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: But with the timing when I mean, like, if you listen, neglect, 674 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: neglect neglect? Can you put revolution on this record we 675 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: made last year? For some reason, I decided to be 676 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: a rock star last year just because I watching, because 677 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: you know what else? I want to be a mo 678 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: rock star. I'd be saying it just woke up. Also, 679 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: just vibe. 680 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: Ten was it? Ten songs to day? 681 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 4: Oh? 682 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? We wh When Tash comes, we make like at 683 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: least ten songs and ideas that we could sharpen. 684 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 4: Up some real live guitars. 685 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: I'll play some new shit I've watching. 686 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: Also, Damn, I wonder if Kanye will get mad, but 687 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 2: I want to play. I'm not gonna play it live, 688 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: but after I'm gonna play some shift. I can't give 689 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: it to you. But that Maga new ship is retarded. 690 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 4: Don't worry. Nobody's listening. And you said, you said that 691 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 4: the fight has always been economic freedom. I'm paraphrasing you. 692 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: But economic empowerment, empowerment. 693 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 4: What does group economics mean to you? 694 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: Then? What is that everybody cops together so everything's cheaper, 695 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: and when one person gets fucked up, the other person 696 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: that's doing well, a couple of people can help out 697 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: without without them being hurt themselves. 698 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 4: So how can how can we implement that? I've been 699 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: saying that for a long time, as far as you know, 700 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 4: Black people have been saying that for all time. How 701 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: can we How can we give some real life examples? 702 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: I give you one right now, in the moment when 703 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: you're walked in with your liule mixes and your cameras, 704 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: I said, you guys are black and you're doing some 705 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: cool shit. In my brain. Let me give you the 706 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: opportunity to have a television show for free and have 707 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 2: me be your first guest, so you can stop calling 708 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: it the podcast. So I put my movie cameras out 709 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: with my movie lenses, and I put your logo in 710 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: the background, and I started shooting, and I said, look, 711 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: I'll just give you the footage that I not. Yeah, 712 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: charge you for it. That's what That's what it is. 713 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: That's an example of it, and hopefully you realize it 714 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: as it's happened. 715 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 4: No, that's av you did do that. 716 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: We appreciative of that, and sat there and schooled you 717 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: the game. That's like, Yo, you get money here, but 718 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: you get money here there. Yea there too. And we 719 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: spoke about certain things and I gave your advice on 720 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: how to approach it correct fact. That's how we're supposed 721 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: to do. And that's free. Some people would have charged 722 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: you a lot of money for that. For every single 723 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: thing that I gave you for free today, including the interview, 724 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 2: the cameras, most people would have charge as the studio. 725 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: Most people with the charge. I even said, let me 726 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: get your logo so I could put it on the 727 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: screen so everybody could see it and gave your man 728 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 2: a drink just for doing it. Drinks and I made 729 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 2: sure you were safe. Fact, that's the fact. That's how 730 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 2: you do it. Yeah, I locked the doors that made 731 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: sure everybody here is healthy both wars. 732 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, it's very responsible. Did COVID test, very very response. 733 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: Everybody's clear leadership leadership. 734 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: And here's another thing, literally, how long did it take 735 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 2: you to get in an interview? I didn't even speak 736 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: to King. He just sent me a text because he's 737 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: a black man and I appreciate his opinion, and I 738 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: know he would never bring me no bubblegum shit and 739 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: he should only want to help. Then I felt he 740 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: was trying to help. Did I give you any hassle? 741 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 2: Was it relatively easy? Did I put you with an assistant? 742 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: All right, that's how you do it. 743 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 4: So how do we get more people on that type 744 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 4: of wave? 745 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: Because I feeling by example and showing it's profitable, soldiers 746 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: only going to do what's profitable, what everybody else is doing. 747 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: But generals do that ship anyway, It's just not many of. 748 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 5: Them, honib I mean, that's the only way I can 749 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 5: think of, right, because there's been plenty of times we've 750 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 5: reached out to people and it hasn't been. 751 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: This season, and. 752 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: I even shot it fate. What's the fact I did 753 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 2: it for you. I ain't got no money to make 754 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 2: out of this ship, but if you make something from. 755 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 3: This, we're gonna be streaming. 756 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: So well. What I would do from that one is 757 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: because you're here for a while, and say, bring your 758 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: show here and put it on the network if you want. 759 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: It's unless you want to keep shooting in your house 760 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 2: with the little cameras, with the with the with the whatever, 761 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: that ship step and repeat behind you like yo, look 762 00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: look better. That's now? Am I gonna tell you what 763 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: you should? I'm gonna help you do it. 764 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 4: So like the the economic and in the political climate 765 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 4: that this is unprecedented. Black lives matter, everybody great time. 766 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 4: Right now, what's what's your what's your you optimistic about 767 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 4: about the situation? Right now? We're in historical times right now. 768 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm in control my optimistic. That's like asking me if I'm 769 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: a winter fight. 770 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 4: Not not for you, I'm just saying it for the general. 771 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm talking about for the general. I got a network. 772 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 2: Then I just tell you I'm talking We're gonna redo 773 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 2: education we're gonna redo laws. If you really watching, you 774 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: see I'm kicking it with senators and congressmen. They pass laws. 775 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 5: So how do creatives and creators get to you? Like, 776 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 5: what's the process? 777 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: Right? 778 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 3: If I have what's what's the process. 779 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: You gotta get to you to get to me, I 780 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 2: don't want to talk to anybody. I got ship to do. 781 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 2: But got what I'm doing is and i'mpowering other people 782 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: so that they can empower other people. That's what I'm doing. 783 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 2: You feel you younger than me, you know, you still 784 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: feel like being out there, you running around. So I'm 785 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: gonna give you the power to distribute whatever power I 786 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 2: got to who you curate because you're doing such good. 787 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 4: Ship appreciated, Got you, they say, they say that, you know, 788 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 4: we always learned the average millionaires seven streams of income, 789 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 4: multiple streams of income. But I feel like that's something 790 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 4: that you always did, was have multiple streams. You never 791 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 4: know when a well is gonna dry up, so you 792 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 4: gotta have other ones. So that's something that you just 793 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 4: early knew early on, Like what's your what's your theory 794 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 4: behind it having multiple different avenues working at the same time. 795 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 2: Okay, imagine this imagine your number one artist after his 796 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: first album saying I quit, that's jay Z. 797 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 3: Jay Z quit after What do you mean you were 798 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 3: reasonable supposed to be the first last. It's supposed to 799 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 3: be supposed to be. 800 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: A Yeah, so you know from that day I was like, well, 801 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: I ain't depending on this nigga. 802 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 3: I'm build a roster. 803 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 4: What how long that he retired or like it like 804 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 4: a monthly he had Volume. 805 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 3: One, didn't retire big past, he just passed in value. 806 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: How many fucking retirements of this nigga A lot? So 807 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 2: you know I lost count how many times you reta. 808 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 4: So that that I don't even care. That pushed you, 809 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 4: That pushed you to just diversify. 810 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like nineteen damn. 811 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 3: That was that. 812 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: You know. It wasn't only that. It was just that 813 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: I was a guy that just thought I could do 814 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 2: everything better. So it was like, I'm fresher than Ralph Laurin. 815 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 2: I know it. I met this nigga, I'm fresher than him. 816 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 2: I know I am. I know I'm cooler than Harvey Weinsteam. 817 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I done shook this nigga down. 818 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying He's not the only. 819 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 2: One that's my little man, you know. I see what Charlie. 820 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 2: You know, all these dudes Charlie watchs Lee or Cohen's 821 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 2: I'm like this nigger. You know what I'm saying. You're 822 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: scared than him, my little man. 823 00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 6: So for me, I'll be like yo, any industry like now, 824 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 6: I'm in TV. 825 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm like Lauren from fucking Wheat TV, fucking Terror long 826 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,919 Speaker 2: So what could they be fucking telling the cool nigga 827 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 2: what to do? 828 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 3: That was your show, The Growing Up. 829 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: I was an executive producer. 830 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's you know, it was because your son 831 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 5: was involved with the show, my son and. 832 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 2: Then my daughter, you know, with my family. I did 833 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: it only to get my son on and it really 834 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 2: fucked his life up to me, you know, And they 835 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 2: did it intentionally, So fuck them. I got a lawsuit. 836 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: There's money on your head, and I'm gonnambarrass you. Remember that. 837 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna call your name out and all your kids 838 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 2: friends are gonna know I'm coming at you for the 839 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 2: right reasons. 840 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 4: I see. 841 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 2: That's the thing that makes me the unicorn. You name 842 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 2: another cat besides me that before the revolution, even after 843 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: that actually calls out white people's name name one. 844 00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 5: I'll wait, dude, you've been fighting for the I mean. 845 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: That's why I'm not I said somebody else, entertainment or 846 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: just I mean whatever, man, our generation, any generation. 847 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, So when you call out, when you call out 848 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 4: le York Cones of the world, is that out of 849 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 4: built up frustration? 850 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 2: Of build up. I've been calling him. I have to 851 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 2: build up. I've been calling my since Dad metim. I've 852 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 2: been screaming on you up publicly for. 853 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 4: He's just never you never respected him, just off the rip, 854 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 4: no off the rep. Never off the rip. 855 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 2: Your man respected him. I never knew why, jay Z, 856 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,439 Speaker 2: I mean your man. 857 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 4: So I got a question because we were fans of 858 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 4: like just that whole culture, just music. But that's how 859 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 4: we grew up on music. So like you know that 860 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 4: that that President's video with you Big. 861 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: Jay a Z like a funny story about that video, 862 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: I do. I told her to Dinnis today. Actually, so, uh, 863 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 2: you know, after a lot of bullshit, we finally we 864 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 2: got cool with Biggie and he came to the video. 865 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 2: It was our first time hanging out, and uh, you know, 866 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: I got into a drinking contest with him, and you know, 867 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 2: he was, you know, very a lot heavier than me, 868 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 2: and I ended up playing myself, getting too drunk and 869 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 2: not remembering. And I woke up the next day and like, 870 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: you know, it was actually the only time I ever 871 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 2: seen j really mad at me. He was like, yo, 872 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 2: you was no good. I was like, what you're talking about? 873 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 2: So I called it Bigs. He was like, man, he 874 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 2: was drunk. He was holding this nigga chain dumped in 875 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 2: his car. 876 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 4: I was like, what car, No Biggie car. 877 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess he wasn't driving, but whatever, I don't remember. 878 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 6: So, you know, every So so that night me and 879 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 6: Biggs went down to Daddy's house and was, you know, like, look, 880 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 6: I was drunk, don't take that. 881 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: And then we hired them to perform because we were 882 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 2: The thing was we were gonna have Biggie headline, so 883 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 2: that Jacob opened for him. So that was the business 884 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 2: we handled that day. But then every day after that 885 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 2: that I saw Biggie was on and we would have 886 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: drinking contests. So you know, the you know, when he 887 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 2: was like stink mink Gators Detroit, that was because we 888 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: was at the Bobby Brown birthday. He was supposed to 889 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 2: perform with puff, but me and him got into a 890 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 2: drinking contest. But this time I was like, I'm gonna 891 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 2: go throw up behind the curtain so I won't get 892 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 2: too stupid. So I went through up, made myself throw 893 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 2: up on some man and was interrext But this nigga, 894 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 2: I'm throwing up on his mink. So that's why they 895 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 2: was calling it the stink mink. After that, they called 896 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 2: it stink mink gators. That came from that story. But 897 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,959 Speaker 2: it's funny because I really, you know, Biggie was really 898 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 2: my man. 899 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 4: So yeah, like I was like, did you really do 900 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 4: you understand that moment? Because y'all was young, I don't 901 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 4: know how I knew that moment. Yeah, we understood that. 902 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 2: I mean, nigga, you could have never told me I'm 903 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 2: not Dame Dash and I wasn't gonna be Dame Dash. 904 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: I knew everything I was doing with historic you couldn't 905 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 2: have told me. And even now it's not a second 906 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 2: I come aside that I don't think I'm making history. Nigga, 907 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: we making history right now, you know what I mean? Like, 908 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: I know I'm a history maker, so that's why I 909 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 2: document everything because I look cool every day. 910 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's important, and every day is important. 911 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 4: Gotta keep your fresh up at all times, be a 912 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 4: rock star all the. 913 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,439 Speaker 3: Time, keep your nails clean. 914 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 5: It's funny because be right, we watched you in those 915 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,959 Speaker 5: times and it was like, Yo, you seem like the 916 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 5: happiest guy on earth. And that's what I'm saying now. 917 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 5: It's like people look at you and it's like, oh damn, 918 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 5: he as an attitude problem. 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If you're taking pills for depression, don't 976 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 2: think about me. 977 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 4: Word of advice did from a from a musical standpoint, 978 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 4: something I always wondered about because there was always rumors 979 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 4: did making did you ever make Cameron the VP of 980 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 4: Rockefeller and did that lead to like some like real issues. 981 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: Uh, of course I made Cameron a VP. Also made 982 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 2: Beanie Siegual a VP. Anyone that had a label with 983 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 2: me was considered a VP. And that was actually the 984 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 2: moment I realized I'm getting the funk away from these guys. 985 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 2: They're not the brightest, you know what I'm saying. I 986 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 2: was like, forget it, that's all it was. Really you 987 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 2: should have heard the conversation we had, Like like Jay 988 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 2: was on the yacht that was the first vacation he 989 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 2: went on, and he made this call and it was like, 990 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 2: are you fucking kidding me? And then Beanie was man 991 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 2: and I'm like with your VP too, And I was like, 992 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 2: what the fuck are you talking about? Forget it? I 993 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 2: don't even care. I was just trying to help everybody, 994 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 2: everyone to get the label you become a VP. I'm 995 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 2: just trying to empower y'all. Niggas. Was on the phone like, 996 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 2: so I gotta go to them to get my my 997 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 2: my fucking videos. Approved. I was like, did you ever 998 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 2: have to go to anybody to get your videos? Right? Bye? 999 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 2: It became a boy situation. I couldn't talk about it 1000 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 2: too much. 1001 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 5: I mean to say, property came out of that, and 1002 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 5: then you got what out of that that time frame 1003 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 5: when I'm saying and he was, he was, I made 1004 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 5: him a VP and you got two films out of it. 1005 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, cool directed one of them the fact education. 1006 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 4: I'm interested to know your because you said you got 1007 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 4: a network. I heard about this from previous like the 1008 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 4: gentleman you just mentioned, he told me like you you 1009 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 4: speak to principles ninety So yeah, can you talk about that? 1010 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 2: Always talk about that work. 1011 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 4: I want to know more about this. 1012 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 2: Listen, instead of complaining about curriculum and the way education 1013 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 2: is approaching us as a culture, Dennis mckezy is curated 1014 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 2: like these like principles that with principles that really give 1015 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 2: a fucking do things out of love and you know, 1016 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 2: uh lays from MOP. You know, he's like a dame. 1017 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 2: Dash of Mop just called me and was like, yo, 1018 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: I want to jump on the zoom with me. I ain't. 1019 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even paying him no mind. I'm like whatever, 1020 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 2: that's my man, so I'm gonna do it. I trust him. 1021 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,919 Speaker 2: I jumped on the zoom and I'm really like looking 1022 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 2: at shit. I'm like ninety Black Principles. I didn't even 1023 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 2: know there was Black Principles. And they mad cool, smart, 1024 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 2: they want to do shit. So instead of complaining about education, 1025 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 2: the fact that they make us prepare to be slaves, 1026 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 2: you go in any school smells is lit, and the 1027 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 2: walls look like a jail. You sit in a room 1028 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 2: while the sun is out, and sit behind the desk 1029 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 2: for eight hours and leave your parents, which is similar 1030 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: to what a job is, and you only see your 1031 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 2: parents when you and your parents are tied. I mean 1032 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 2: that just seems like programming to me. And these Principles 1033 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 2: were trying to relate to these kids and giving me 1034 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 2: factual shit about how to help them. And they're all 1035 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 2: geniuses and brilliant and creative and fly and the ultimate 1036 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 2: thing tank for me, And they all deserve to be famous, 1037 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 2: and they all deserve to have all their dreams come 1038 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,919 Speaker 2: true because they've made so many others dreams come true. 1039 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 4: So are you're working with like curriculum? 1040 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: Try to like curriculum everything? Yes, making education for us yeah, 1041 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 2: I mean by us, not by me, by intuition, real 1042 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,439 Speaker 2: principles that have been sitting with children all over the world. 1043 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 2: And this shiit ain't even just like ninety in the country, 1044 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 2: it's all over the world. 1045 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 5: So I think the struggle, and I've worked with principles 1046 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 5: obviously pretty closely. The struggle is like we can have 1047 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 5: they can have their ideas, but a lot of times 1048 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 5: those ideas stay in that school. 1049 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 2: It's still a job. They have to protect their job. 1050 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 3: So like that time, that's the other part of it. 1051 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 5: It's like, look, we can have these ideas for how 1052 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 5: we want to teach our kids, we could create the curriculum, 1053 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,760 Speaker 5: but they still have to meet state mandates. 1054 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 3: And that's where the roadblock comes in. 1055 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 2: It's like, well, I'm not a soldier. I don't depend 1056 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 2: on government to teach me either, because they're only going 1057 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 2: to teach me what behooves them. And that's all I've 1058 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 2: seen them do. Make people think that unless they go 1059 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 2: to college and get a nine to five and get debt, 1060 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 2: they're doing the wrong thing, and that they should only 1061 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 2: be fucking happy when they're sixty five and old. And 1062 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 2: I'm not doing that, and. 1063 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 5: That so that puts the principle in that position, right, 1064 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 5: like they still have to answer to somebody. So I'm 1065 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 5: thinking myself, is it is the role now to create 1066 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 5: an independent school where you're not we're doing Okay, That's 1067 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 5: that's what I was going with it. 1068 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 2: So like that's the goal of that's what we've been 1069 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,280 Speaker 2: that's one of the goals. But it's also an independent 1070 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 2: app It's also an independent place to just give people information. 1071 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 2: It's also a place to give people a place to 1072 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 2: communicate and talk about problems so we could give action. 1073 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 2: Bringing attention and awareness to problems without a solution is 1074 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 2: nothing but frustrating. It depresses people. Don't tell me the problems. 1075 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 2: If you ain't got a solution unless you want to 1076 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 2: go fight, I don't want to talk about it. 1077 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And I feel like education. I think 1078 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 4: too many times people feel education only happens in school. 1079 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 4: But it's like education can happen. 1080 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. The only thing that happens in the school 1081 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 2: is deb. 1082 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, basically indoctrinations. Now it's really changing to become Like 1083 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 4: I said, but. 1084 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 2: Look how insane white people are about what it looks 1085 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 2: like to have a fake education to the extent that 1086 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,240 Speaker 2: they were buying, and motherfuckers is doing jail time because 1087 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 2: of perception of having an education. It doesn't even matter. 1088 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 2: It's not even a fucking's systematic racism of human It's 1089 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 2: not like to me, racism is just to separate broke people, 1090 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 2: for broke people to fight each other so that they 1091 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 2: don't fight the rich people. What's the white racist. He's 1092 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 2: usually fucking cracked, living with stiff spit in a fucking 1093 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 2: hut like I lived in North Carolina. I'd be online 1094 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 2: and nigga have their Confederate shit flag and go back 1095 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 2: to the car. I'll be laughing. I'm getting in the 1096 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 2: porsche of course, you men. How many? How many rich 1097 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 2: racists on the front line of KKK. 1098 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 4: But there are a lot of rich racists though I didn't. 1099 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 2: Nigga, they they racist just because they want to stay rich. Okay, 1100 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,839 Speaker 2: how is it racism? And Kanye Gap is the most 1101 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 2: all American institution and they putting a black man name 1102 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 2: in front of it. 1103 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 3: It's they want the money, So it's not racism. 1104 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 2: When it comes to money, white people gonna put a 1105 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 2: black man name in front of theirs. What are you 1106 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 2: talking about? 1107 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 4: But is that look at the Germans in fucking but 1108 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 4: is that business? Because you can still you can still 1109 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 4: be racist and do business with somebody and make money. 1110 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 2: Gives a fuck? Who cares? You can't be racist? If 1111 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 2: I can fire you, I don't care. Go in the 1112 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 2: bathroom and scream, nigga all you want you fire it. 1113 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 2: I'm your boss. You should be racist, you should be mad. 1114 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 2: You got a boss. You want to blame it on me, 1115 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 2: go ahead, but you can't do shit to me for it. 1116 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 2: A racist can't stop me from get money. 1117 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 4: No, absolutely, all I do. 1118 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 2: All I do with a racist is hire them and 1119 00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 2: work them to make them my slave. 1120 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 6: Leo is a slave for my fucking culture. 1121 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 2: Get your ass out there and get my people some money. 1122 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 2: Le Or you're a slave. Terror you are slave. Now. 1123 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 2: We gotta make the narrative right, they get money off us? 1124 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 2: How come we not the masters if they making money 1125 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 2: off us because they tell us they are boss. Nigga, 1126 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm your boss. You're making money off me. You my slave. 1127 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna hire you. You know what I did on 1128 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 2: on growing up hip Hop to what's her name? Nigga? 1129 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 2: Let Uh? Who is our line producer for og stories? 1130 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,839 Speaker 2: What the fuck's her name? The showrunner? I told her, yo, 1131 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,720 Speaker 2: stop telling me what to do. I'm gonna be your boss. 1132 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 2: And then I got I did the old stories and 1133 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 2: hired how the fucking be the fucking show runner for 1134 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 2: my show. I'm your boss. Now, don't pretend you're a boss. 1135 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 2: I'm a pay ain't racism and suckerism. Don't try to 1136 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 2: make me think because you think I'm black, that you 1137 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,320 Speaker 2: better than me just because you say so. Show me 1138 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 2: that nigga rob me. You gotta show me your gun, period. 1139 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 2: And if I show you mind, I'm using it. 1140 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 4: So how did these people, like the leoids of the 1141 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 4: world Todd Mosqua? 1142 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 2: It is like eventually or now he got to run 1143 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 2: behind YouTube's people. He's out the music business. 1144 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,439 Speaker 4: Did they just rise to power just by he ain't 1145 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 4: no power? Benefit? 1146 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have power? What power? 1147 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 4: When he was ahead of death jail, that. 1148 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 2: Wasn't no power. He was my little man. He used 1149 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 2: to work for me at Rockefeller. I said, go get 1150 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 2: my budgets cleared and shut up. That nigga never no power. 1151 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 2: He ain't own ship at rock. What powers are you 1152 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 2: giving them power? 1153 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,720 Speaker 4: I ain't said, I said. 1154 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 2: Title title to who you know. I'm just saying, title 1155 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 2: is my little man. 1156 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 4: Look what I was was his title. What I was 1157 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 4: going with this is that people in that position right 1158 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 4: as far. 1159 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,760 Speaker 2: As I'm in front, and they're not in that position. 1160 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is that supervisors, they're not bosses. 1161 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 2: It ain't there. 1162 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 4: So it has to be a certain level of perception 1163 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 4: that is giving them certain authority. 1164 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 2: No, it's a certain level of you believing perception that's 1165 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 2: giving him a circle. 1166 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 4: But we didn't know. 1167 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 2: I told you he was a little he's my little said. 1168 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 4: You said that. But there's a bunch of other rappers 1169 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 4: that have praised him. 1170 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 2: I told those rappers that that's your little man's ask 1171 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 2: I said Lee is a sucker. Askinari. He'll tell you. 1172 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 2: I told every artist Lee as the sucker. There you 1173 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 2: have it, Ben, it ain't got no power. So how 1174 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 2: you going black like black boy? How you gonna black 1175 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 2: boy me for selling nicols? And I sell Wait should 1176 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 2: be funny. Narrative. It's all about narrative. Don't believe the hype. 1177 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 4: How you feel about partner obviously, I know you're not 1178 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 4: into working for somebody. That's obvious. 1179 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 2: Partnering is fine. 1180 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 4: Partnerships are fine, Yeah, okay, fair exchange. Collaboration, you're not 1181 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 4: You're not opposed to collaboration. 1182 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 2: I do it all the time. 1183 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 4: I think it's the key something that we don't do 1184 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 4: enough of collaboration. 1185 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 2: I do. We just collaborated right now. 1186 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 4: I'm just saying that. I'm just saying in general, in general, 1187 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 4: Well yeah. 1188 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 2: In general, but now you're in the presence of a general. 1189 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 2: So that's the reason why that's not even in my 1190 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 2: fucking vernacular. I don't have people around me that don't 1191 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 2: do that. And all I do is say, look, I'm 1192 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 2: gonna televise my revolution because I don't want to smell you. 1193 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 2: I'll be in here doing it, but you're still gonna 1194 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 2: see I'm in your pocket and your phone. 1195 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, can we can we uh maybe shift here is 1196 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 5: a little bit. And because it's something also that. 1197 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 2: I whatever you want, bro announced the question, just ask no. 1198 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 5: Now we're mine from a distance man, And that's that's 1199 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 5: like I said that you have balance in your life 1200 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 5: obviously what balance fatherhood has balanced you. 1201 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 2: I know you're in a relationship. How it humbles me? 1202 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,560 Speaker 3: How is like that was my thing? 1203 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 2: How? 1204 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 5: How has that been over the past few years. Now 1205 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 5: that you have teenagers that are growing, you have a son, obviously. 1206 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm loving being a dad and going through everything I 1207 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 2: heard about. I love it. 1208 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 4: What do you mean you heard about? 1209 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 2: You know, you hear about your kids act in a 1210 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 2: certain way at a certain time and it happens, and 1211 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 2: knowing how to deal with it. I'm loving being a 1212 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 2: dad and everything that comes with it, everything, even the tears. 1213 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 2: Loving people more than yourself feels so good. And that's 1214 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 2: what we got to understand. If you have one car 1215 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 2: and it's a cool, you're a selfish motherfucker. If you 1216 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 2: have an apartment and you have children and you have 1217 00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,360 Speaker 2: a one bedroom and you're happy, you're not getting it. 1218 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 2: You gotta get your life together. I'm happy when my 1219 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 2: kids have houses. My daughter Ava showed me her crib 1220 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 2: the other day. I'm so fucking proud of me and 1221 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 2: her my other daughter. Right, this is how I knew 1222 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 2: I was doing my job, because I do get at 1223 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 2: my daughter's because they go to school and they also 1224 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 2: get brainwashed. So my daughter, Taulula loves school and all 1225 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 2: she knows in life, and she wants to go to college. 1226 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 2: I said, what's your dream job? I don't know what's 1227 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 2: your dream? I don't know you want to go to college? Yeah? 1228 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 2: How you know that because you were told that. I 1229 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 2: bet you wanted nine to five too, don't you? What's 1230 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 2: a nine to five? I did my job that made 1231 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 2: everything to me. I don't care about nothing else. 1232 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 3: But your daughter still went to college though, right like. 1233 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 2: Tallulah, Yeah, Aba went to college and making mother's dreams 1234 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 2: come too. She's a model and she also works for me, 1235 01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 2: which is working for herself. 1236 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 4: So would you not encourage your kids to go to college? 1237 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 2: I encourage them to do whatever makes them happy, not 1238 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 2: me or their mother or their parents. 1239 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,440 Speaker 4: Okay, fifth, fair enough? Fair enough? Family business? Is that 1240 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 4: something that you you have aspirations for your children? 1241 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 2: To you mean Rachel roy Dame Dead Studios. 1242 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 4: You know, I'm saying as far as you talk about 1243 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 4: your children like because. 1244 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 2: They're gonna they can run this business if they want. 1245 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 2: This is their This is their business. I'm not working 1246 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 2: for me. I work for them. That's what. If you 1247 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 2: work for you, you're working for the wrong Cause you 1248 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 2: don't work for your wife, your girl, significant other. You 1249 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 2: ain't doing it right. 1250 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 4: What's your what's on your vision board for the next 1251 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 4: twenty years, like, what's what's the next. Obviously we're in 1252 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 4: the Dame Dead studios right now, but you're I seem 1253 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 4: like you're always thinking ahead of time. So what's your 1254 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 4: what's your on your vision board for the next next? 1255 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 2: To sports? 1256 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 4: Sports management? 1257 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 2: Come on, man, I'm sick of complaining about leagues and 1258 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 2: getting in these races leagues. I'm starting my own leagues 1259 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 2: being a team. 1260 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw you. 1261 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 5: There's a deal you have with the is it the 1262 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 5: NBA x L is that? Are you part ownership of 1263 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 5: that or just broadcasting it. 1264 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 2: We're working all you know, the business of it is 1265 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 2: not all solidified. 1266 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 5: Okay, but it's gonna be on the network. Yeah okay, 1267 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 5: and those those games are starting. 1268 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 2: I put you an interview with him so he can 1269 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 2: tell you. But my genders to do that in every sport, 1270 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,680 Speaker 2: have a network. I'll promote it. And my league is 1271 01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 2: gonna be way funner than anybody's league. And wayflyer. 1272 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 4: I think it's a it's a it can happen. People 1273 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 4: doubt in ice Q, but that that league can happen happening. 1274 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 4: I'm saying, three on three league happening. There you have it. 1275 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 4: It's happening. 1276 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 2: You know it might happen, It can't happen, it's happening. 1277 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 2: So what's happening is it's happening. 1278 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 5: The logistics is it five on five or is it 1279 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 5: okay it's five on five? So from one of my 1280 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 5: understanding of it, and maybe you can help me out 1281 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 5: on that, is that it's really almost like a developmental 1282 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 5: league for people who haven't maybe it's a pro league developmental. 1283 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 4: We're not doing pro pro Bowl. 1284 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 2: Is development? 1285 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 3: Who told you that? 1286 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 2: And I don't know's I'm gonna be a G league. 1287 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna own a G league. I'm an a league. 1288 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 4: Facts say less. 1289 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 2: You think I inspired? My dream is to have a 1290 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 2: G league? Mm hmmm. 1291 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 3: So we got basketball and then everything all sports after. 1292 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 2: That, everything, But also I want to make a sport 1293 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 2: profitable out of like something like educational like debating. 1294 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 3: Mm hm. 1295 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 2: You know, like my thinking, My problem with education is 1296 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 2: they also enable us. So like for a certain class, 1297 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 2: you think the only way to get out of it 1298 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 2: is entertainment or lets and you'll devote your whole life 1299 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 2: to playing basketball, and that's like lotto, and you get 1300 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 2: hurt majority of time before you get there. And they 1301 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 2: don't have a plan. And the reason why people devote 1302 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 2: their whole life to it and go to basketball in 1303 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 2: school is because they think they can make money. So 1304 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 2: let's make something educational profitable and make a team out 1305 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 2: of that. Don't you think they're smart enough to know 1306 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 2: that educationally that if we make them think they could be, 1307 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 2: they like facilitate their enablers. School is enabling. 1308 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 5: We lived off that line like that was when y'all 1309 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 5: put that line out, And that was the first lesson 1310 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 5: I ever taught. 1311 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 3: When it came, it was like hip hop literacy. It 1312 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 3: was like, oh, we got his backs. 1313 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 5: All blacks guys in sports entertainment like that preferenced us 1314 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 5: to go into development of how many other people are 1315 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 5: famous and not even famous but. 1316 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 3: Have created I have created well from outside of the 1317 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 3: sports and entertainment industry. So that's kind of how. 1318 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 4: Well you got it. You got a much better chance of, 1319 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 4: you know, making being an entrepreneur than being a top rapper, 1320 01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 4: that's for sure. 1321 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,400 Speaker 2: You guys are funny, man, do you I'm not laughing, 1322 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not lying. He's funny. You guys. 1323 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 6: You you. 1324 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a big home. You guys should do a 1325 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 2: fucking scripted TV show. I have a script for now. 1326 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 2: I gotta I know. I have a script for y'all. 1327 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I got a script 1328 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 2: nicolect Can you ask the lay if he's finished with 1329 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 2: that script for uh. 1330 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 4: Let's do it. 1331 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 2: I have a script. No, you're doing you have to 1332 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 2: do steroids, you guys. No, No, it seems like an authourage. 1333 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 2: It's a scripted movie, and I think you guys should 1334 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 2: be a movie. 1335 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 4: We want it. 1336 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 2: Don't do that. Don't do that. 1337 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 4: You don't take it too far. You feel you feel, 1338 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 4: you feel myself. 1339 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 2: You're funny. Say you're like me, you're going too far. 1340 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 2: And you got on white pants. I don't wear white pants, 1341 01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 2: snap snapping, I don't wear white pants. But showed me 1342 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 2: a picture with me wearing some might collaboration. We are 1343 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 2: going to partner with Dame Damn Studios. Scripted TV show 1344 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 2: sounds good. Just do it. It's funny how you said 1345 01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 2: partner real funny, funny. We'll discuss that she's live too. 1346 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 3: Shout what's that I she's been live. 1347 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 2: On right now? Yeah? 1348 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 3: A shout to my. 1349 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we told you you know what it is. 1350 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:30,720 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1351 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 5: Dang even better. Appreciate you any more questions shy, Nah, 1352 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,560 Speaker 5: I just wanted to, you know, pay homage man, like 1353 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 5: I honestly, honestly, we have grown up watching you and 1354 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 5: these guys, know man like Rockefeller was. I felt like 1355 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 5: I was part of that ship man the way that way, 1356 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 5: that was part of it, you know what I'm saying, 1357 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 5: Like we watched and study your moves. 1358 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 2: Even the way when we get some bullshit at the 1359 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 2: end though. 1360 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's fine though, because you do that so 1361 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 3: we don't have to, you know what I'm saying, and 1362 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 3: that and that's. 1363 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 2: What You're right, you learn from it might have been 1364 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 2: the sacrificial lamb so everyone could learn from it. 1365 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we definitely took that away that. 1366 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,479 Speaker 2: Because what we didn't lose, I didn't lose too much money. 1367 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, but now we want to, we want to we 1368 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 4: want to give you your flowers because, like I said, 1369 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 4: I mean, you definitely was a major inspiration for us 1370 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 4: on the business side. 1371 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 2: Give me some flower. Where is that flowers? I thought 1372 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 2: you missed spencery. I don't buy no dispensery weed. I'll 1373 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 2: give you a number to call. I guarantee a minute. 1374 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 2: I just ordered some ship. But I'm smoking new weed 1375 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 2: right now. It's that new weed. It's that new o. 1376 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 4: G any last words for up and coming entrepreneurs, people 1377 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,080 Speaker 4: that you know, no guidance. 1378 01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 2: There's never last words for an entrepreneur. If you bet 1379 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 2: with the entrepreneur bug, you're always gonna want more. But 1380 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 2: self care is important. To make sure you get some 1381 01:07:55,600 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 2: sleep and make sure you celebrate yourself and make sure 1382 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 2: you're enjoying yourself. You know, I'm a firm believer in 1383 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 2: I would never do anything and get paid for it 1384 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 2: unless I would do it for free. So you didn't 1385 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 2: pay me for this, but I could get paid for this, 1386 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. 1387 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 4: There, You have it, Ladies and gentlemen, Troy housekeeping it on. 1388 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out to everybody on patreon dot com. That's 1389 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 5: our probably pay program. We appreciate your support, y'all know. 1390 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,719 Speaker 2: Get the call of action. If you want to support 1391 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 2: everyone in this room right now, please order Dame dand 1392 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 2: Studios from your phone and everyone that hears this, if 1393 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 2: you're actually believing what I'm saying about the support thing, 1394 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 2: just fucking support simple, just fucking order it. Dame Dad 1395 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 2: Studios ain't no link. You can go get it on 1396 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,839 Speaker 2: dot com. You could get it. You have an iPhone, 1397 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 2: I hope, so okay, but answers yes, all right, so 1398 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,640 Speaker 2: you can go get it on iTunes or whatever I 1399 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 2: store ain't good. 1400 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,599 Speaker 3: iTunes is going now right never is absolutely yeah. 1401 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so anywhere that you could get Netflix, you could 1402 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:14,679 Speaker 2: get my ship. 1403 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 5: Go get that and uh like you like we said 1404 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 5: Tier four and five. I know you got access to 1405 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 5: e y L University not more online business in the world. 1406 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 2: It is also going to be on my ship. There 1407 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 2: you have it, and yeah, there you go. 1408 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,639 Speaker 5: There you go, oh g and shout out to everybody 1409 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 5: that's been supporting to merch on e y L your 1410 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 5: leasion dot com. 1411 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 3: We got a bunch of merch for you. 1412 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 4: Abilities. 1413 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,760 Speaker 2: That's our slogan that we're running with. 1414 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,360 Speaker 4: It's a lot of copycats that took our It took 1415 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,800 Speaker 4: our thing, put on every flavor, but we got trade marks. 1416 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 2: The logo logo. 1417 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 4: We got a couple of different logos, but that's the 1418 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 4: logo that week. 1419 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 2: That's funny that that it's very similar to the OSG network, 1420 01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,519 Speaker 2: is it. You gotta do what you got you with Dennis. 1421 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna link flying out here. Yeah, he told me. 1422 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 4: He told me we're gonna link with Dennis. Yeah, nigga. Yeah, 1423 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 4: he's a big he's a big support of your leisure. 1424 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:12,120 Speaker 4: Shout to him. 1425 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, damn that nigga's on the post. 1426 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 5: Tells me something. Yeah, yeah, shout by the support. That's 1427 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 5: a fan. 1428 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 4: That's a fan. 1429 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 3: That's a big fan like that. 1430 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 2: Either way, he was gonna end up here. Yeah, we 1431 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,640 Speaker 2: are Kenny because you know Kenny Burns. You know I 1432 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 2: hired him to be the president of rock Music for Yeah. 1433 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,760 Speaker 3: He tells the stories about that stories he did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1434 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:38,679 Speaker 3: we was living for a while. 1435 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he can tell you, We tell you. Yeah. 1436 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 3: He loved his time up there. 1437 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 2: Man. 1438 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 3: Heead war stories more. 1439 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 5: More of his war stories were prior to coming to Rockefeller, 1440 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 5: but a lot. 1441 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 4: Of stories with Diddy. Him and I was talking about 1442 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 4: my stories, his stories. 1443 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 3: He didn't really about your stories. 1444 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,280 Speaker 2: To tell you about the time that I went into 1445 01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,160 Speaker 2: the post office. 1446 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 3: I just told him about that. He told you, brother, 1447 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 3: when you did the interview with him. I was watching. 1448 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,760 Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you, like, I really follow you, bro. 1449 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,120 Speaker 2: The security thing, make a security thing. 1450 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 3: I just they called the rock on you they called, Yeah, Bro, 1451 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 3: did not just tell you? 1452 01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,680 Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, yeah nah that He was like, now 1453 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 5: we ain't called security, Like now you called the rock. 1454 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 3: That's a good of security, Bro. I just wanted to talk. 1455 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 4: It was like Rock, you ran up in Puff's office. 1456 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,839 Speaker 4: You just want to have a conversation, friendly conversation. 1457 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,840 Speaker 3: I'm not that would be interesting to see. I'm sure 1458 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 3: that's what you told him to And when you did, when. 1459 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,479 Speaker 4: Were you able to have the conversation? Yeah? 1460 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah it was I'll show you. 1461 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 3: Anything got thrown. 1462 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, a computer guy, he threw his computer. 1463 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 4: He threw his computer. 1464 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 2: Well, he was watching me say, like yo, Puff called 1465 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 2: me because I was saying I ain't gonna do not. 1466 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 4: We made a pack not to talk about those things 1467 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 4: you have now, Kenny Kenny. He told us a story 1468 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 4: about when Cameron screamed got him. 1469 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,880 Speaker 2: Which one camera everything. Camra used to be on percosets 1470 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,560 Speaker 2: a lot because of the stomach, so it used to 1471 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 2: you know it's timber. 1472 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that explains it. Dan say my name make 1473 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 4: you dash like Dan, there you have. Biggie Small said 1474 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 4: that fact the legendary. 1475 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 2: That's a that I want you to know that I 1476 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,560 Speaker 2: fully embraced the status of Biggie Small say in my 1477 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,680 Speaker 2: name in the rhyme. I'm enjoying it. I know what 1478 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 2: it means, like a fan, like as if I never 1479 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 2: knew him. I know what it means. That's how much 1480 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm enjoying life right now. I know the history. I'm 1481 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 2: enjoying the history. I'm marinating it like wine being right. 1482 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 2: It's crazy and everyone told you you were wrong. 1483 01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that they put the post up. Dame 1484 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 3: was right all along. 1485 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 4: I apologized, I think to you. 1486 01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:00,360 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you saw the interview. When I got back 1487 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 2: to the Breakfast club, it was tightened up, like it was. 1488 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:07,639 Speaker 4: A different real estate anything. I'm pretty sure listen, listen, can't. 1489 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 2: I was like, next time I walk up in here, 1490 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 2: I want to shake your hands, and I did. I 1491 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,600 Speaker 2: was proud of my work that day. That day, I 1492 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:18,639 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm ill. 1493 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,760 Speaker 3: What was the other interview? It was like, Yo, twenty 1494 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 3: years ago, I was a DJ twenty days ago. 1495 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 4: Same interview, Like that, I was a legendary situation. 1496 01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 2: That was now. 1497 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 3: He was like twenty years ago, I was the CEO. 1498 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:29,599 Speaker 2: He was a DJ. 1499 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:32,720 Speaker 5: Two years later, I'm the CEO. You're still a dj 1500 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 5: said the growth he was, Yeah, I wrote it down 1501 01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 5: because I was like that, so he was, I be 1502 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:39,200 Speaker 5: on one. 1503 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,639 Speaker 2: I was hot. I gotta look at that interview again. 1504 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:42,679 Speaker 2: I don't even remember saying. 1505 01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,040 Speaker 3: That was crazy. 1506 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 4: Woah Dame said that, but yeah, that definitely said that. 1507 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 2: Heapping out. 1508 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,360 Speaker 4: You never know sometimes you never know what he's gonna say. 1509 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,839 Speaker 2: He don't even know what he just happens. 1510 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 4: It should be live. That ship was live and he 1511 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 4: was on the podcast him and sees. I definitely he 1512 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 4: sells the cribs right, yeah, us about his whole situation. 1513 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:10,760 Speaker 2: Do All is doing that ship him and his man 1514 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 2: in Jersey too, They're like they originated do it All 1515 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,640 Speaker 2: from Lords of the Underground. He's actually put me with 1516 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 2: he was in one of your things. No, he's pure 1517 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,240 Speaker 2: in the game with me. He put me with the 1518 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 2: Bishop Prenell, the YA squad, who is the educator of 1519 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:35,400 Speaker 2: where racism starts religion. You know, he's been made it 1520 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 2: clear clear to me to understand that the proper translation 1521 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,720 Speaker 2: of the real name of Jesus is Joshua mm hmm, 1522 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,040 Speaker 2: and the Jesus is a European translation, and nothing that 1523 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,320 Speaker 2: took place in the Bible happened in Europe, So why 1524 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 2: do we all worship a name that's a European translation? 1525 01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 2: Like just logically mhm. And he was the first person 1526 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 2: and the bishop to break that down to me in 1527 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 2: such an eloquent way, with such aggression. He's the Dame 1528 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 2: Dash of history to me of religion. And then also 1529 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 2: I talked to Billy Carson, who I haven't spoken to 1530 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,320 Speaker 2: since he launched his app. I was like, yo, bro, 1531 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 2: call me man, and he is telling me the original 1532 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 2: origin of history. You know, the Ananoki shit. We were 1533 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 2: really from how human was even made just based on 1534 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,719 Speaker 2: text that they don't tell us, just based on religion. 1535 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,040 Speaker 2: We come from being modified from people from another planet. 1536 01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:40,640 Speaker 3: I heard that. And you're talking about the hieroglyphith. 1537 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know that's what's on the network. That's 1538 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:51,639 Speaker 2: the Galaxy network, the YAH Squad network, the OSG network. 1539 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,920 Speaker 2: These are people that are better at me, better than me, 1540 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,799 Speaker 2: but they know intelligence about the things that I personally 1541 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 2: believe need to be fixed. Like I've had an unc 1542 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 2: since I was a teenager. I've always had an ancle 1543 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 2: on me. That Cross never made sense to me because 1544 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 2: it only represented Phalic men. You know, on them sticks 1545 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:22,080 Speaker 2: on me. This represents a woman and a man. God 1546 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,640 Speaker 2: is a combination of both on this planet. But the 1547 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 2: man's job is to be a slave. I do firmly 1548 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,719 Speaker 2: believe that women are God logically because they make life. 1549 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,240 Speaker 2: And isn't that what God does? 1550 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,600 Speaker 3: That's what God is? 1551 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:46,720 Speaker 2: Right? So who what on this planet creates life? So 1552 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 2: how could they not be God? Just logically put your 1553 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,600 Speaker 2: ego to the set. How could a woman not be 1554 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,599 Speaker 2: God if she creates life? And we can't. 1555 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,040 Speaker 4: Logically, well, I think that that man plays the part 1556 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 4: in creating life. It's like. 1557 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,760 Speaker 2: Actually, like, no, no, no, let me just say this, 1558 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 2: before there was men. Women actually could create life. 1559 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 4: Without men, like immaculate conception. 1560 01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, not a Maculus conception. It was I gotta do, 1561 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:21,000 Speaker 2: I gotta I'll show you this ship. But again, we 1562 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 2: don't like my girl. My wife, Roquel horn Dash is 1563 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,400 Speaker 2: pregnant right now with my baby. I had a part 1564 01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:35,360 Speaker 2: in it. But that baby is in her graduation, thank you, 1565 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 2: But it's in her, it's growing in her. Her body 1566 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 2: is the one that's going through a physical change. She's 1567 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 2: the one whose hormones are on a different level. She's 1568 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 2: the one who has to have six to eight pounds 1569 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,040 Speaker 2: for you know, come through a holeless. Bit. We ain't 1570 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,040 Speaker 2: doing that. She's the one that has to have a 1571 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:02,760 Speaker 2: period every month and be in pain just so she 1572 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 2: could create life. Is that not the case? It's true, 1573 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,080 Speaker 2: that's true. You know, she's the one that doesn't have 1574 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,639 Speaker 2: physical muscle because of lack of testosterone, which is generated 1575 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 2: by our testicles to go physically do work. So if 1576 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 2: we're here to make muscle, to go do physical work. 1577 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,360 Speaker 2: I just believe our role in this world is to 1578 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,680 Speaker 2: be a slave for a woman. And that's the only 1579 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 2: way you could be a king is if you're a 1580 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,160 Speaker 2: slave for a queen. That's just how I feel. 1581 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 3: When did you get to that point? 1582 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,840 Speaker 5: Because I know you were doing an invest in women 1583 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,280 Speaker 5: thing and that I thought that was extremely powerful, But 1584 01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:39,680 Speaker 5: at what point did you get to that. 1585 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:45,160 Speaker 3: Declaration or that thought processing when it came to women. 1586 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,040 Speaker 2: It was an evolution of thought, but it started with 1587 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:48,439 Speaker 2: a Leah. 1588 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 3: Okay, you know. 1589 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 2: She really was. You know, it was like royalty to me. 1590 01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 2: Her presence was royal, you know. 1591 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1592 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:07,400 Speaker 2: And then the feeling that I got from Roquel was 1593 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:11,439 Speaker 2: similar to the feeling that I felt from Maliah and 1594 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 2: it's just a royalness about it. It's just a very 1595 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 2: I just feel the need to serve, you know what 1596 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:20,160 Speaker 2: I mean? 1597 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know why. 1598 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:29,640 Speaker 4: That's powerful, powerful, absolutely game. Once again, we appreciate you. 1599 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:30,160 Speaker 4: Good brother. 1600 01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 3: I can't believe this said. I'm like in all of 1601 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:34,919 Speaker 3: this really. 1602 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 4: Had to happen. 1603 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:36,320 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 1604 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:37,480 Speaker 4: Ice. 1605 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 5: We had that conversation, like, I text him like, yoll, 1606 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,040 Speaker 5: remember when we said we're gonna get deemed. 1607 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,560 Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this question. Yeah, because I 1608 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,000 Speaker 2: know that there are people that I wanted to meet, 1609 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,080 Speaker 2: and when I meet them, it's not what I thought 1610 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:53,320 Speaker 2: it would be. So what did you think this experience 1611 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,559 Speaker 2: would be like from beginning to end? Just the experience 1612 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 2: in general. 1613 01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 5: Honestly, I thought it would be just like this. I 1614 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:00,560 Speaker 5: really thought it was going to be just like this 1615 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,160 Speaker 5: and didn't. It did not disappoint pretty much. How I 1616 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,679 Speaker 5: how I Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I texted him today, 1617 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,759 Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, February twenty nine, twenty nineteen, your page 1618 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,559 Speaker 5: followed us and I was like, yo, bro, yo, Dame's 1619 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 5: following us, Like. 1620 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:18,840 Speaker 2: We really, what's your page? What's the page on. 1621 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 3: Your Lisia on Instagram that's your. 1622 01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:30,240 Speaker 2: Wow. You know what's funny because I follow random Ship. 1623 01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:31,879 Speaker 2: If things are on it, that's interesting. 1624 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 5: Yeah I was, and I was like I still got 1625 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,919 Speaker 5: the text him today, like yo, bro, that was February 1626 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,840 Speaker 5: and I'm like, yo, damn, Like I think we were 1627 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:39,360 Speaker 5: onto something. 1628 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah yeah, I don't even know that was young. 1629 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I was just that was a random thing. 1630 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,400 Speaker 2: I think you might have came up on the popular page, 1631 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 2: came up on my feet because of Billy Carson. 1632 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 5: I think, okay, yeah, I mean everything else, it's big 1633 01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,840 Speaker 5: deal for us, straight up. And he texted me like, yo, 1634 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,080 Speaker 5: we gotta get Dean and we got to get master 1635 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:02,880 Speaker 5: P and I think both those things can happen in 1636 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 5: the spring, and we were like, let's do it. 1637 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,400 Speaker 3: And then we had Nipsey on the list. And then 1638 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:09,120 Speaker 3: two weeks after that. 1639 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 2: My interaction with Nipsey was so interesting. How how is student. 1640 01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,479 Speaker 4: The reason why we really wanted to because we had 1641 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,240 Speaker 4: business podcasts and he just really he's one of these 1642 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,360 Speaker 4: guys that just was business wise. 1643 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:28,400 Speaker 2: Well he had such a level of respect, you know, 1644 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:34,360 Speaker 2: for real ship and I had never met him and 1645 01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:39,519 Speaker 2: he actually came to a book signing of mine in 1646 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,320 Speaker 2: the club. And when I heard I was on my 1647 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 2: way out, I heard he was there. I came back. 1648 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,040 Speaker 2: I didn't leave. I just went back to and we 1649 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 2: spoke and every second was the knowledge, like he was 1650 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 2: picking my brain. And then you know, we exchanged numbers 1651 01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:01,680 Speaker 2: and we spoke about some other personal things. You know, 1652 01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 2: I still got this texts that we spoke about. But 1653 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,599 Speaker 2: he was just a sponge and I could like see 1654 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:17,080 Speaker 2: him applying things daily and that really it like and 1655 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,560 Speaker 2: and my the dude that I consider my therapist, but 1656 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,679 Speaker 2: he's a friend that gives me therapy when we talk 1657 01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:24,960 Speaker 2: or he has therapeutic conversations with me. Tis he was 1658 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,080 Speaker 2: like a real good friend of his. And it just 1659 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:33,920 Speaker 2: like it was like losing Biggie. Yeah, it was like 1660 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:38,360 Speaker 2: losing the lear like knowing someone personally and their potential, 1661 01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 2: and it was like realizing his potential. I was like 1662 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,960 Speaker 2: looking at what he was gonna look like in ten 1663 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,920 Speaker 2: years already, right, I was like, he's gonna be ill 1664 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,200 Speaker 2: in ten years or fifteen, it's gonna be sick. He's 1665 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 2: still gonna be young. So it's like when you're doing 1666 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,720 Speaker 2: things that are important, you gotta tighten up. 1667 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. 1668 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 2: And the only light I could get out of that 1669 01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,320 Speaker 2: was to learn from it, and that experience made me 1670 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,960 Speaker 2: tighten up. But it was sad and it hurt, and 1671 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 2: it still does because I always, like, when I see potential, 1672 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:20,760 Speaker 2: I always wonder, like, what the fuck would the leader 1673 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:26,160 Speaker 2: be today? Would Biggie be today, big L big L? Yeah, 1674 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:35,360 Speaker 2: you know, Tupac Tupac big Pun, I mean would be today? Like, 1675 01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,240 Speaker 2: look who I am today? Who would they be? 1676 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 3: They didn't make it pass, you know, senseless acts of violence. 1677 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 2: It's just how many senseless of our leaders, our generals 1678 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 2: get caught up in a stupid war, nonsense like fighting 1679 01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 2: the good war right to where you slipped for the 1680 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,960 Speaker 2: stupid war. So if you're good in one place, make 1681 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,040 Speaker 2: sure you're good every place. When you're good in one place, 1682 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,280 Speaker 2: tighten up every place. 1683 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:08,880 Speaker 3: You know. 1684 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I got I got a question and it 1685 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,080 Speaker 5: just hit me. I forgot to ask it to you. 1686 01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,920 Speaker 5: But obviously you've been around a lot of people who 1687 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,320 Speaker 5: influences you. Now, is it just family or there are 1688 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,840 Speaker 5: other people out there that you're watching, like you know 1689 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:26,920 Speaker 5: that's a source of influence. 1690 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 3: Is anybody out there? 1691 01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,800 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Kanye influences me. 1692 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,280 Speaker 4: Kanye, shout out to easy. 1693 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 2: When your student becomes your teacher, you did your job. 1694 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,000 Speaker 4: That should be that should be the goal of every teacher. 1695 01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:45,360 Speaker 2: It's happens. 1696 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:46,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Kanye, you. 1697 01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,479 Speaker 2: Know, through all the bullshit, when I have conversations with him, 1698 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:54,080 Speaker 2: I learned, you know, because to me, he's better than 1699 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:58,880 Speaker 2: me and making his dreams come true. You don't have 1700 01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,160 Speaker 2: the same dreams, but he makes his dreams come true 1701 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 2: better than me in a manic state. Sometimes genius. 1702 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,000 Speaker 3: Definitely, Definitely it's art. 1703 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 2: Kanye is art. Pause for me, living, breathing art. Everything 1704 01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:22,639 Speaker 2: he does is is fucking interesting and different. Gotta watch 1705 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,040 Speaker 2: everything he does, watch, and I'm really proud of him. 1706 01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 2: You know he took that fucking red hat off. Yeah 1707 01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:33,479 Speaker 2: he did. 1708 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,960 Speaker 3: He did fucking and now he's running for president. 1709 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 2: He never said that, tweeted. He did not tweet that. 1710 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,960 Speaker 2: He said twenty vision take it the way he wanted. 1711 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,559 Speaker 2: I ain't seen him run for ship. What I heard 1712 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,559 Speaker 2: was I'm taking the red hat off. 1713 01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,439 Speaker 4: Shout out to Kanye, Oh, brother, we gotta get an 1714 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,160 Speaker 4: interview with Yeah, that's the next that's the next, giant 1715 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:08,120 Speaker 4: Dame h Once again, we appreciate your hospitality. 1716 01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,880 Speaker 2: Also, he dropped that two billion. He dropped that two 1717 01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,479 Speaker 2: man when he counted George Floyd. Let me give you 1718 01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:21,160 Speaker 2: another Jeopardy music question. Name another motherfucker that's talking about 1719 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 2: helping That dropped anywhere near two men. Dude, that's a 1720 01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:40,200 Speaker 2: heavy that's a heavy mic drop. That made me proud. 1721 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:46,719 Speaker 2: He Nigga came through. She dropped that bank right flew 1722 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,519 Speaker 2: his private jet, walked through his ship, didn't say a word, 1723 01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 2: jump back on his jet and was the lowless voice 1724 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 2: with that motherfucking a mic dropper. Is a fucking bag drop, 1725 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 2: bag drop? That's gangs two milli. 1726 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's significant. 1727 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,680 Speaker 2: That's all we need to talk about. Took the red 1728 01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,599 Speaker 2: hat off and did the bag drop when it count. 1729 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,320 Speaker 4: Kanye of the greatest. 1730 01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm proud to be a part of that any level, 1731 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,000 Speaker 2: one of the greatest ever right now. He the best 1732 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,880 Speaker 2: that ever did it because of the Gap deal and 1733 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 2: the sneaker deal Nigga made East Jordan's with sneakers. Yeah, 1734 01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 2: non athlete athlete. We got to give that man this props. 1735 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 3: Non athlete to do it. 1736 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:38,280 Speaker 2: And also the Gap is gonna be crazy and he's 1737 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:44,719 Speaker 2: localizing production so wait, you know what that means. 1738 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 3: I heard they were trying to give him some fight, 1739 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:47,679 Speaker 3: some fight back in Wyoming. 1740 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,639 Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm just saying he's making sure everything 1741 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,639 Speaker 2: made by him is in the US. 1742 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:54,519 Speaker 3: That's important. 1743 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,439 Speaker 2: My bag drop, that's all that counts. All the other 1744 01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,680 Speaker 2: ship is fucking circus. He's back dropping. 1745 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:03,519 Speaker 3: Coin it. 1746 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:04,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1747 01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,439 Speaker 2: My graduates from my school being forts. 1748 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin Hart, all of them. 1749 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:17,559 Speaker 3: Pick one. 1750 01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:18,920 Speaker 4: Pick one? 1751 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:27,439 Speaker 2: Back drop, bag drop, Mike, drop bag drops? 1752 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:29,880 Speaker 3: Can we make that a drop? 1753 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 4: Can we make that a drop? Bag drop? That's a drop, 1754 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,519 Speaker 4: that's a backdrop, backdrop. 1755 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:50,680 Speaker 2: Do one, do one. It's funny, he's funny. You know 1756 01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,120 Speaker 2: you you know you're still in the back of the camera. 1757 01:28:56,200 --> 01:29:00,920 Speaker 2: You're not sounding like a ghost. The only thing looked 1758 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,439 Speaker 2: like a ghost pause is your legs. 1759 01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,040 Speaker 3: You have to wear you have to wear them. You 1760 01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:11,720 Speaker 3: have to wear them. 1761 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 2: Well, don't don't black belt. Don't smack it down. You 1762 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:16,600 Speaker 2: might get some ashes on that. 1763 01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 4: White pants for black belt. 1764 01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:19,599 Speaker 2: White pants. 1765 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,080 Speaker 3: You're black belt today. 1766 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:24,320 Speaker 4: Now we see it. 1767 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:26,800 Speaker 3: Choked your joe. 1768 01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,479 Speaker 4: You should never feel you never feel that comfortable. 1769 01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,040 Speaker 3: That's the exact reason you shouldn't. 1770 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,680 Speaker 2: Did it, because you know everybody wears white pants, but no, 1771 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,479 Speaker 2: not everybody don't like respect. It was puffed on a 1772 01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 2: party later. 1773 01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:51,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think respect respectful like a. 1774 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:58,640 Speaker 2: Boat ride about to go on. Let me you know 1775 01:29:58,680 --> 01:29:59,880 Speaker 2: what I mean. You triggered the memory. 1776 01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:01,840 Speaker 4: You know, you know what's crazy And I said this 1777 01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 4: at essence a few years ago. This is this is 1778 01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,800 Speaker 4: off topic, but it's true. Black people don't coach. I've 1779 01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,880 Speaker 4: ever seen go to all white party. We like obsessed 1780 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,160 Speaker 4: with the color white. I've never seen the Spanish all 1781 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:16,920 Speaker 4: white party. Black people love white parties. No, I do 1782 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,240 Speaker 4: love white, the color. But I'm just saying I don't 1783 01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,400 Speaker 4: know why. I'm like they do all white baby showers, 1784 01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 4: all white boat parties, all white think about it. It's 1785 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,439 Speaker 4: always an all white party for black people somewhere. 1786 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's that's the programming. No, it's that 1787 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,800 Speaker 2: that's the culture that we've been given to think that 1788 01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:43,400 Speaker 2: dark means really dark and light means you know, or 1789 01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:48,519 Speaker 2: rather like a certain way. But whatever, But anyway, dang, 1790 01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:52,320 Speaker 2: once again, thank you appreciate it. Thanks for letting me 1791 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:53,200 Speaker 2: be on your TV show. 1792 01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:58,680 Speaker 4: Television show production, b bro, do we gotta take a 1793 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,080 Speaker 4: picture of Mike Yeah. 1794 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,880 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 1795 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,760 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 1796 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:13,120 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 1797 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:17,080 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 1798 01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:20,960 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 1799 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,559 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States 1800 01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:29,360 Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border 1801 01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,960 Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 1802 01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,200 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you 1803 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:40,160 Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fine nearly 1804 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,240 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned and deported, you will 1805 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,960 Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home 1806 01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 1807 01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:52,559 Speaker 1: Do what's right. 1808 01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Leave now. 1809 01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:59,080 Speaker 1: Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected. 1810 01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,280 Speaker 3: Sponsored the state's Department of Homeland Security,