WEBVTT - Hour 1 – Mark Maske (07-07-20)

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>here at Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith and Doug Gottlieb

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<v Speaker 1>in for Dan and the Dan Nets today. Happy Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Big day today for you. We have so many big

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<v Speaker 1>stories coming out of the National Football You've got Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Maski from the Washington Post. He's gonna stop by with

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<v Speaker 1>us in a few minutes. Major League Baseball is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure their situation out as they get rolling this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Their schedule came out, but they got problems getting off

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. The NBA also try to deal with their

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<v Speaker 1>issues as players are going to report to the bubble.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight Howard is actually in for the Lakers now, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a really big deal. We talked to Rick Bucker

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<v Speaker 1>about that on the show a day ago, that the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers really need Dwight Howard there and Dwight Howard's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. So all this stuff and more we

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<v Speaker 1>have throughout the show today, but absolutely the big story

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<v Speaker 1>of the day and brought to us first by a

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<v Speaker 1>liquor store employee in Kansas City, Patrick Mahomes and his

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and three million dollar extension. What the deal

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<v Speaker 1>could be worth in total value is five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>three million. But Doug, a woman in Kansas City, a

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<v Speaker 1>liquor store manager, tweeted out yesterday about an hour before

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<v Speaker 1>the news broke, a front office employee of the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 1>came in to buy six bottles of champagne. I asked

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<v Speaker 1>him what it was for. He said, it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jones extension. So how great is that? That's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the conversation. Oh, it's Chris Jones game. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something bigger. She tweets out, it's the Mahomes deal,

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<v Speaker 1>and an hour later, Adam Schefter tweets it out. So

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<v Speaker 1>a liquor store in Kansas City is our source for

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<v Speaker 1>NFL information. That's awesome. It's an amazing It's that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>super fun, right, and I like people that pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to things and also speaks to me what what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to play football in Kansas City. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to matter. I actually think that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>this story. Like there's a look when you see the

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<v Speaker 1>number and you know deal could be earth up to

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and three million dollars. I talked to several

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<v Speaker 1>NFL front office guys like, you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a team friendly deal, and you're like, wait, what, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean if he did a series of one year deals,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and anybody can walk in could get essentially

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and fifty million dollars over that length of

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<v Speaker 1>time for how good he is at the position that

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<v Speaker 1>he plays. It's actually a team friendly Like we can

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<v Speaker 1>go into it. It's kind of a team friendly deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But why and why would so? Why would Pat Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>do that? And I think the liquor store employee understanding

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<v Speaker 1>the Chris Jones thing and under that that's I just

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<v Speaker 1>there's something different and special about being the biggest fish

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<v Speaker 1>in a smaller pond, and I think that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that some of these guys that chase it

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<v Speaker 1>start to understand. Like I would guess that Kevin Durant

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<v Speaker 1>is going to experience this in Brooklyn for sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how much he experienced it in Gold State,

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<v Speaker 1>because even though that's a big pond, the Warriors were

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<v Speaker 1>a really big team. But there's something specially to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the town understand knowing who you are and what

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<v Speaker 1>you're about and wearing those team colors and knowing what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on a team like that's actually really cool. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a big part of Pat Mahomes loves

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<v Speaker 1>playing in Kansas City, loves playing for you to read,

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<v Speaker 1>likes the organization, loves the offense. But more than anything,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just Kansas City's my jam, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it all works. And that actually is part and parcel

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<v Speaker 1>of the story. Plausa Liquor is the store. Katie Camlin

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<v Speaker 1>is the manager's name, tweets this out, then deletes it

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<v Speaker 1>because she feels weird, like, Oh, I don't know, should

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<v Speaker 1>I do this? Should I not? Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then an hour later, Adam Schefter has the news

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<v Speaker 1>shortly after you and I came off the air yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she tweets out, holy blank, I beat Schefter.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she puts the tweet back up and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>come buy your liquor for me. It Plausa Liquor, wear

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<v Speaker 1>a mask and go chiefs. So this is where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need to go to get my you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>my football scoops. I'm gonna have to visit a liquor

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<v Speaker 1>store very frequently. Uh in Kansas in Kansas City, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll start here in LA Maybe I'll go somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have a scoop on If I had gone

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<v Speaker 1>to a liquor store the other day, I could have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten a scoop on a big story. I mean, who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>I got Guys. It's like in the movies when cops

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<v Speaker 1>have to go to strip clubs for some reason, like

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<v Speaker 1>always once they have to go, Oh, we gotta find

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<v Speaker 1>out this information where oh they work at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>girls girls, girls down on the boulevard. Okay, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm may have to do that. Just start going to

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<v Speaker 1>liquor stores and just asking random questions about LA sports. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>so what's going on in the bubble everything? Okay in Orlando? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I hear, and then I get all the scoops. Yeah. No, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there is something. Somebody will be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the bus boy or the you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>room service guy in the bubble will will know more

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<v Speaker 1>than Malika Andrews will, right, I mean just just just

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<v Speaker 1>will h and be willing to share. Um. I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for the gottleiap stories from when you played ball overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm waiting for the the the the employe. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that was that, honestly is one of the parts that's

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<v Speaker 1>most difficult about when you play in a college town,

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<v Speaker 1>about adjusting to life as a professional when you're playing overseas, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I just I remember playing in Russia and

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<v Speaker 1>we won the Russian Championship and being on the back

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<v Speaker 1>of a flatbed and you know, they're blowing music and

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing like some parade and most people didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>who the hell we were, right Whereas when I was

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<v Speaker 1>like in Stillwater, Oklahoma, I'm a household name, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different adjustment. I don't know, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>would Kansas City is as close as you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a college town feel for the NFL, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were always the little engine that couldn't. They

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<v Speaker 1>would always find a way to lose, not just losing

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, but lose at home and usually lose with

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<v Speaker 1>a lead and lose because they were super conservative. And

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<v Speaker 1>now they you know, they do the opposite, and they

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<v Speaker 1>do something the opposite of being conservative. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly good quarterback and Alex Smith, who's a perfectly good dude,

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<v Speaker 1>right and he can clearly get you to the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>and got the Niners, should have gotten to the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't his fault they lost the Saints. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't the one who couldn't feel a pun or

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<v Speaker 1>a kick. But but he's there was nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Smith. He didn't use his wide receivers. But there,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a ceiling there, and so they they trade

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<v Speaker 1>up and get Pat Mahomes high ceiling, a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a low floor by somebody, some people's estimation. They

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<v Speaker 1>do what no one or people don't want to do anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sit a guy for essentially his entire first year.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they trade away their starting quarterback, give him, hand

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<v Speaker 1>him the keys. And not only did they they almost

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<v Speaker 1>get there the first year, and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is when you get there a year too early,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes those expectations become too great. Then they get back

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<v Speaker 1>the next year and oh yeah, by the way, they

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<v Speaker 1>get behind against Houston and they're down twenty four nothing

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<v Speaker 1>at home, and they didn't flinch. And that's the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that you that that game is the reason that you

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<v Speaker 1>get Pat Mahomes because he didn't really play well in

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl, he didn't for two and out three.

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<v Speaker 1>Collers didn't play particularly well. Even the throne of the

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<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hill was behind him. I mean, that's not his

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<v Speaker 1>best football game. But the reason that they moved Mountains

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<v Speaker 1>and moved Alex Smith out was down twenty four nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew he could bring him back, and he did,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they reward him with a massive, massive contract.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a cool story. Patrick Mahomes is now a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to turn Kansas City into the new New England,

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<v Speaker 1>right because before Brady and Belichick show up. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know the Patriots. Look, they play in a big market

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<v Speaker 1>in Boston. But was New England really what one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big hubs of the NFL. It wasn't. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>a big city, but it wasn't a place where you

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<v Speaker 1>went to four. Okay, Well look and now look what

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<v Speaker 1>they've done. He keeps signing Brady, He stays there for

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<v Speaker 1>almost all of his career. Before he can't take anymore

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<v Speaker 1>he goes and signed to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But

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<v Speaker 1>now New England is mentioned, like when you mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys and the Pittsburgh Steelers, is one of those

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<v Speaker 1>heritage teams that hey, okay, when we talk NFL, this

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<v Speaker 1>is who we talk about. And now when we talk

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<v Speaker 1>football for the next ten years, this is what we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. We talk about the Kansas City Chiefs because

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<v Speaker 1>now clearly they have signed a guy that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring them too, maybe three more Super Bowls, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>winning a Super Bowl already at twenty four years old.

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<v Speaker 1>They have bought that kind of relevancy for at least

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<v Speaker 1>a decade. And you know, the funny bit about his contract, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you're right, the first you always have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the first few years of a contract, right

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<v Speaker 1>the big money is in the headline, right, richest deal

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<v Speaker 1>in team sports. It could be worth up to five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars and most likely Mahomes is going to

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<v Speaker 1>see a good chunk most, if not all, of that money.

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<v Speaker 1>But in a few years, this deal is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be irrelevant, right like all quarterback deals are all. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at this deal, you know, you go back and go, okay, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>the Kirk Cousins deal looks pretty good right now, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's a guy that gives you thirty touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>and ten picks a year, and well, that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good deal when we all thought it was, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy, this is all over overwhelming, and why would

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<v Speaker 1>you give Kirk and all that money. He's only getting

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty million dollars more than Carson Wentzwood over the

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<v Speaker 1>course next four years. But the most interesting part of

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<v Speaker 1>this deal to me is that he's got up like

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a clause built into the deal that like

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<v Speaker 1>the next two years of his deal kick in when

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the roster in the spring. Like usually you

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<v Speaker 1>get for players, it's okay if they're on the roster

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<v Speaker 1>by such and such a date, their money is guaranteed

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<v Speaker 1>for the year. Well, Mahomes has that like rolling for years,

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<v Speaker 1>like his twenty twenty one money is getting. If he's

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster beginning of twenty twenty one, his money

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<v Speaker 1>is guaranteed through twenty twenty three, and then twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>it's through twenty twenty four and then so it's it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get rid of him or you

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<v Speaker 1>want to move on, it's hard because you're locked into

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<v Speaker 1>him for two more years because you kept him on

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<v Speaker 1>the roster. Let's face it, Mahomes isn't going anywhere for

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<v Speaker 1>the next few years. So while the money is really

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<v Speaker 1>good for Kansas City, you look at that and go boy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's hard to look at something like that

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<v Speaker 1>and go, boy, that's really ingenious that. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>if guy have a bad year or two, or if

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<v Speaker 1>I yet I'm still you still got me. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>kin on some levels to the rollover contract. Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a kin to the rollover contract. And um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so the rollover. But but look, the he's gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>as much as he's not gonna make a ton in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of salary and quote bonuses the next two years

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<v Speaker 1>he does. I believe by next March he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred million dollars because that's the way these

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<v Speaker 1>deals are structured, where you get you have to it

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<v Speaker 1>goes into an escrow account and you actually get it early,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it should end up earning him way more money, um,

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<v Speaker 1>way more money than it actually says on paper. One

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars a lot of money. Anyway, you get

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<v Speaker 1>that money early rather than paid out over time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the opposite of essentially a Bobby bonilla. And

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<v Speaker 1>you like, look, he's gonna make a ton of money.

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<v Speaker 1>I can only tell you though that um twelve years

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<v Speaker 1>is no matter what it looks like at the back

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<v Speaker 1>end of that deal, it's too long. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a and and that you only sign that. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of layers to this. Okay. So for people who

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember Jerry McGuire, right, Jerry McGuire on some level

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<v Speaker 1>was was based loosely, loosely on an agent and they

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<v Speaker 1>actually used his office for you know, you know, shooting

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. And that agent was a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>is Lee Steinberg, who was the quarterback agent. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was a Lee Steinberg deal. And again I'm not being

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<v Speaker 1>critical of Lee per se because it is a good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>That are some quirks to it that that that do

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<v Speaker 1>mandate he's going to get more guaranteed than some traditional contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>But twelve years is really really long, right, ten year

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<v Speaker 1>deal plus two years at on, that's twelve years. That

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<v Speaker 1>gives away any sort of leverage of being a free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Annie Reid eventually does retire. Who the head

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<v Speaker 1>coaches he's not, He couldn't, he won't really or shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a say because he's not going anywhere. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a no trade clause. This is him signing up to

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<v Speaker 1>be an a chief for life, which sounds good into

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<v Speaker 1>a microphone, but in business, it's not a great business practice.

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<v Speaker 1>So those numbers are super inflated because it helps. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Steinberg saying I'm back now. Only did I sign

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<v Speaker 1>the Pat Mahomes and did I get him the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>contract in the league. I got him the biggest contract

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of professional sports. Meanwhile, most people in

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<v Speaker 1>the sports, like, dude, a twelve year contract is dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't do that because this guy should be on

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<v Speaker 1>the market in four maybe five years and he can

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<v Speaker 1>make even more money. It does signify that Pat Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>is super happy. He loves Kansas City, he does love

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<v Speaker 1>playing for Andy Reid, he does love the organization, and

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<v Speaker 1>now he gets to take care of everybody. But that

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<v Speaker 1>those ridiculous numbers of twelve years and five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>three million dollars a potential that's simply to help the

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<v Speaker 1>agent recruit the next quarterback class in the next uh

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<v Speaker 1>in this football season if we have one, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say that you look at the next probably six

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<v Speaker 1>years at this like, look at this until he's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Right, because at some point two things are

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. Number One, he's going to look like

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<v Speaker 1>he's not not not quite a bargain, but it's gonna be. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>look at all these other guys that have passed Homes.

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<v Speaker 1>It will happen in the next few years. There will

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<v Speaker 1>be other guys that are signed to contracts, and there

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<v Speaker 1>will be players all look at look at where the

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes contract is now. But there's that murky language of

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<v Speaker 1>being able to opt out and renegotiate, which I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>is what's gonna come up at some point when Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>reaches thirty, if he's won another Super Bowl or two

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<v Speaker 1>by then. So I mean, look, nobody ever really sees

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<v Speaker 1>the end of these deals, no one, no one ever

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<v Speaker 1>sees them. It's just it's just a way, as you're

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<v Speaker 1>right to say, hey, look at this contract that I've done,

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<v Speaker 1>So this will be redone at some point. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I go back to the Durrell Reevas contract with

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots when he signed for two years and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like sixteen million dollars a year. Well, the first

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<v Speaker 1>year was twelve million, and the second year was worth

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<v Speaker 1>like like twenty million, which was not guaranteed at all,

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<v Speaker 1>which was only so Revas could say I'm the highest

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<v Speaker 1>paid cornerback in the NFL, because you know, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>all cornerbacks they so want to fight over who gets

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<v Speaker 1>the most money, who gets everything. I mean that that

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<v Speaker 1>that meant nothing except for the headline of Revas gets

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<v Speaker 1>the richest deal. You know, it makes the most money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know for a cornerback year, he's averaging sixteen million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year, when really most of that money was

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<v Speaker 1>never was never gonna come. So you're right, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is going to be part so Lee Steinberg can say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look this is what I've done. I can continue to

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<v Speaker 1>do this. It's business. But really, in the next four

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<v Speaker 1>or five years, this is going to wind up being redone.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I really just can't get over the protection

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<v Speaker 1>that he has of having a bad year or getting injured.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's are you're really gonna cut Pat mahomes? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you really gonna try to move on? If you really

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<v Speaker 1>want to move on, you're still paying him for two

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<v Speaker 1>more calendar years. Well we got to keep paying him.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's almost a way, it's almost a way to say, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of team friendly. But in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to get out that this has got

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<v Speaker 1>to really be something. So I mean, that's that's something

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if you're gonna wind up seeing more and

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<v Speaker 1>more of this in the future, because I always thought

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<v Speaker 1>when Kirk Cousins signed, well, that changes the game. Every

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is gonna get guaranteed money for his entire length

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<v Speaker 1>of his contract. I really did. I think, Okay, once

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<v Speaker 1>you gave it to Kirk Cousins, all these guys coming

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<v Speaker 1>up that are better than he is, or they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start getting that kind of gonna be a three

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<v Speaker 1>or four year deal. Then yeah, if they do it

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<v Speaker 1>three or four year deal, they will, but they won't

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<v Speaker 1>do it on a twelve year deal, and that they're

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<v Speaker 1>there in lies the rub. Are you surprised it was

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years? I mean when I saw Mahomes, I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to be three or four years. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be you know, all kinds of money and guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really was surprised when it was this long. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was surprised, But you know, then I

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<v Speaker 1>look at how it's structured. It is there's a ton

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<v Speaker 1>like the money at the back end is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking fifty sixty million dollars per year when you

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<v Speaker 1>go kind of all in, and so that's when a

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<v Speaker 1>huge and but we don't we don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>financial landscape of the NFL will look like then, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have a pretty good sense that it'll be more.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys will be making more than they are now. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I was surprised. But that's how, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how these deals get to be look get to

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<v Speaker 1>look very very big. And you know, the question is

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<v Speaker 1>always when can they get out of it? If they

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<v Speaker 1>want to get out of it? And as much as

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<v Speaker 1>you say we don't ever want to get out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you gotta think worst case scenario, right, worst

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<v Speaker 1>case scenario. The guy isn't you know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not doesn't seem to be in his personality to

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<v Speaker 1>get lazy. But if he got lazy, if he got

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<v Speaker 1>to be a pain in the butt, if there was

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<v Speaker 1>just too much. But I think he feels like the

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry of the NFL. Right, he feels like the

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry of the NFL. In you have a franchise

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<v Speaker 1>that you know fifty years ago won a Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is forty years in between NBA titles for

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<v Speaker 1>the Warriors. He's son of a professional athlete, exceptionally likable,

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<v Speaker 1>He's got this just joy of playing the game sort

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<v Speaker 1>of way. You know, just seems like a good dude

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<v Speaker 1>that you'd want to hang with. So, yeah, I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 1>it's that long, but I think when you know you

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<v Speaker 1>have Steph Curry, you're willing to do whatever it takes

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<v Speaker 1>to make them part of your team for life. Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>at how about a frescaut Doug at Gottlieb Show, Jason Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Gottlieb in for Dan and the Danets. Today we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have much more on Patrick Mahomes's deal as the show unfolds,

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<v Speaker 1>and coming up next, we got more for the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League as one team's last twenty four hours not

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<v Speaker 1>at all what they'd be expecting under the white hot spotlight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's coming up next. Keep it right here. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Gottlieb in for Dan and the Danets today. Big

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on Patrick Mahomes's extension. We have more on that.

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<v Speaker 1>We have more on the big Deshaun Jackson story that's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to come around in the next few minutes. But

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy, was the last twenty four hours something for

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Redskins football team. As yesterday, Doug and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked on the show a bit about President Trump's tweet

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<v Speaker 1>about Bubba Wallace and NASCAR, saying that NASCAR and Bubba

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<v Speaker 1>Wallace should apologize for the hoax that they put out there,

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<v Speaker 1>that the noose was put in his garage. That was

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<v Speaker 1>something Doug and I got into. And then after the

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<v Speaker 1>show was over, President Trump decided to turn his attention

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<v Speaker 1>to Washington and the Cleveland Indians teams as well, putting

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<v Speaker 1>this out on Twitter saying, quote, they named teams out

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<v Speaker 1>of strength, not weakness. But now the Washington Redskins and

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Indians, two fabled sports franchises, look like they are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be changing their names in order to be

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<v Speaker 1>politically correct. Indians like Elizabeth Warren must be very angry

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's gonna get that in want again in

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Warren any time. I can joining us now on

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<v Speaker 1>the hotline for more on this NFL reporter for the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Post Redskins insider Mark Maski, you can follow on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter at Mark Maski. So just another twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 1>for you in DC, right, Mark, You know, this seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's been like this for about twenty years. But yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the last week, the last four or five days, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if obviously been very very action packed, very different, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very provocative, and we'll sort of see where it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can see where it's going now on

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<v Speaker 1>the name. We'll have to see where it goes in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the minority partners of Daniel Snyder. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a very tumultuous time for the Redskins organization

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<v Speaker 1>and it could be sort of a moment in time

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<v Speaker 1>where we look back, where a lot of things change

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to take this organization one way or the other. Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>For the longest time, the fallback was, hey, look, White

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<v Speaker 1>America can think this is a negative, but Native Americans

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<v Speaker 1>actually have a positive view of Redskins as the team

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<v Speaker 1>that represents them in the National Football League. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>has that changed? And when did that change? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that changed about the time things changed for

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<v Speaker 1>the country as a whole. I mean there were there

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<v Speaker 1>are are things that were allowed to stand for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time in this country that that that simply aren't

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to stand anymore. We've seen that, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the monuments, with some of the names

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<v Speaker 1>of other institutions. It's an approach that that that obviously

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<v Speaker 1>took hold in this country after the death of George Floyd.

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<v Speaker 1>It came to the NFL. We saw it come to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL with the video that Roger Goodell put out,

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<v Speaker 1>with the renewed talk of Colin Kaepernick and whether he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be on the team. And I think what you're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>is Roger Goodell in the NFL trying to get on

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<v Speaker 1>the right side of history because of what has happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. And we can talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where the motives pure on this or the motives you

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<v Speaker 1>know sort of that's the that's good business now, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to do business now. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>whether the motives were pure or not. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome is that the NFL and Roger Goodell are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get on the correct side of history. And now

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<v Speaker 1>despite those arguments that were made in the past on

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<v Speaker 1>the Redskins name. We've seen the NFL become involved in

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<v Speaker 1>this name change or the same change. It is going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. That's certainly the plan right now. We would

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<v Speaker 1>take a very abrupt about face at the last minute

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<v Speaker 1>by Dan Snyder for this not to happen. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those arguments that stood over time about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're the arguments that allowed the name to stay

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. While those arguments you know, don't carry

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<v Speaker 1>the same way and are not allowed to stand anymore

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<v Speaker 1>in the same way than a lot of institutions and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of names and a lot of symbols in

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<v Speaker 1>this country that are allowed to stand for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time no longer are valid and no longer allowed. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but this isn't like like if we're just having an

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<v Speaker 1>honest discussion and here's what happens is right, Like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can people, because there's such a pushback the president and

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<v Speaker 1>his rhetoric that anything he says becomes you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't you can't agree with anything he says. But he

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<v Speaker 1>isn't wrong, right Like the idea of the Redskins was

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<v Speaker 1>never intended to be a slur it was intended to

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<v Speaker 1>represent strength, whether it did or did not, that that

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>is in fact the intent, and whether it's the Native

0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Americans inside the helmet the hail to the Redskins like

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 1>it was the intent? Or am I am I off

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<v Speaker 1>in what I've been always been told? You know, that

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<v Speaker 1>was always stated as the attent, that this was, that

0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>this was intended to honor Native Americans. That's what was said.

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Over and then you saw the polling over the years

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<v Speaker 1>that the Redskins cited is saying this is this did

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<v Speaker 1>not offend Native Americans. And some of the polling, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, what say, you know, I not attend. Native

0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Americans say they're not offended about this. But then the

0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>question becomes, okay, what what percentage is okay to offend? Okay,

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:47.880
<v Speaker 1>if one out of ten Native Americans are offended by this,

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you know it, does that make it okay? And and

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 1>again I think we I just go back to what

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I said before, We judge things by a certain standard

0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:58.919
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. I just don't think that standard

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.560
<v Speaker 1>is allowed to stand in more and and and again,

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anyone can sort of make a valid

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 1>argument that the Redskins in the NFL are doing this

0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 1>because they think it's the right thing to do. I mean,

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 1>you look around and when did this happen. This happened

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 1>because there was financial pressure exerted upon the Redskins sponsors,

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and then the sponsors turned around and exerted that pressure

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>on the Redskins. So so that's what sort of pushed

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 1>this along. So the discussion of what's right and wrong, uh,

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>is not what ledsion led to the decision. But but

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to me again, all of those arguments that were made

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>in the past where we're evaluated in one way before

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and now they're being evaluated in a much different way now.

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.919
<v Speaker 1>Mark you reported I'm going back to your Twitter account,

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 1>your report at the Washington Post. When it comes to

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the aspect of the minority partners wanting out, this stems

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 1>from the relationship with Daniel Sneider that they're they're they're

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 1>unhappy being in a business with him, and this is

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>why they want out. It's kind of separate from the

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:02.399
<v Speaker 1>name controversy. I mean, it's it's yes and no it

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's I think it's separate in the fact

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>that that that this is a business decision being made

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>among business partners who simply don't want to be with

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Dan Snider anymore. And it's not something that just happened, uh,

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, because you know, the timing was and we

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 1>found out about the fact that the minority partners are

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.640
<v Speaker 1>doing this and trying to sell their shares and trying

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to break their ties from Dan Cider. At the same

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>time we found out about the fact that the name

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.679
<v Speaker 1>is going to change, but that that doesn't tie those together.

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:35.120
<v Speaker 1>This has been sort of a long developing thing with

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the minority partners. This is just when we happen to

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>find out now. I do think it's part of it,

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think certainly for Fred Smith Um, the head

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 1>of FedEx, who's one of the minority partners we're talking about,

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>he spent a long time trying to convince Dan Cider

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to change the name and that was unsuccessful. And then

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>finally FedEx when public with the fact that it had

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>had had urged the team to change the names. So

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 1>they are related issues. I don't think it's it's effective

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>causation that the that the name issue led to this

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>fracture in the Redskins ownership. It's one of many issues,

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>especially for Fred Smith, it's one of many issues. But

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>for the other partners, I think especially, it's just, you know,

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>they believe it's time for this business relationship to mark

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>what what what's a What's a realistic name that could

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>honor Native Americans and the military? Right because you got

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 1>a new head coach and suddenly I don't know whether

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>he knew he was going to get this amount of power,

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>but Ron Rivera, I mean, is like the footballs are

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>now and apparently the business making decision making Zarcas Snyder's

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>out of the country and this is all on his plate,

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and if it happens, it has to happen in short order,

0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 1>like what's a reasonable name? You know, it's a great

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>question because you know, when when you listen to what

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Ron Rivera said and then what you know what you

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>were just talking about, that that that the new name

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<v Speaker 1>will be something that's at least an attempt to both

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>honor the military and to honor Native Americans, Well that,

0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, that becomes problematic because again that gets back

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to the fact that, well, whose opinion are we going

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to use on this? You know, if some people are

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>still offended by the new names, that does that mean

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's not valid. So you look at the

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 1>names that that that have been thrown out there and

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>then the past and again being is thrown out there. Now,

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>there was a time when when if Dan Sneider was

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<v Speaker 1>going to get an Arena League team, he was going

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to name it the Washington Warrior. So that's something that's

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be this being talked about now. Another one

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.720
<v Speaker 1>that's being talked about now is the Americans. Whereas you

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you sort of honor Native Americans by saying that these

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>were the original Americans, so you call the team the Americans.

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>If I think part of that also will not just

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>be the name, but what you know, what's the logo,

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>what's the imagery going to be that goes along with

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the name. So I think when you when you talked

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>about and based on what Ron Rivera said, this attempt

0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:00.199
<v Speaker 1>to honor Native Americans, well that was the attempt in

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the past. So certainly when you get up the term

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Redskins and replace it with another term, that is at

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>least going to make it better. But is that going

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>to make it all right? And again it's going to

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 1>be a matter of opinion. It's going to be subjective

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>rather than objective. So I think you know, these are

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>are significant issues, they're problematic issues, they're complex issues, and

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>it's we don't know what the name is going to

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:23.879
<v Speaker 1>be yet. Well wait to see what the name is,

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>and then we'll say, you know, is this still okay

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 1>with people? And I don't know that it will be

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>in everyone's case? All right, what about the quarterback position?

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>You're still paying Alex Smith? He thinks he wants to

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>play football. I don't know if that's possible. It's amazing

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that he's even walking and has a leg. I mean,

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>like he's a remarkable dude. Dwayne Haskins obviously, you know,

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:48.959
<v Speaker 1>it feels like he's grown up in the off season.

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>But that's all talk. And then I think what's amazing

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>is Ron Rivera coached Cam Newton. Cam Newton could have

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>been had for you know, for pennies and obviously they

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>had already you know, made a trade for his backup

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>in Kyle Allen Roder very even said I wouldn't bet

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 1>against Cam Newton, except he actually did bet against Cam Newton. Um,

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>what what what's your you know this organization as well

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>or better than anybody. What's your best guest for how

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback thing put plays out. You know, I think

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>for all the reasons of what you just said, it

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 1>speaks to the fact that it's you know, it's going

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.359
<v Speaker 1>to be make or break with Dwayne Askins, because otherwise,

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't going to be make or break with Haskins,

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>then you would go get Cam Newton, and particularly for

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>what the numbers ended up being, for what Cam Newton

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>signed with with the Patriots, you know, a very minimal deal,

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>in fact, a minimum deal that that can that can

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>go up to seven a half million through incentives. But

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you could have done that deal with

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the Redskins, then maybe you couldn't have At the time

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.959
<v Speaker 1>that the Redskins we were contemplating this and deciding what

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to do because Cam Newton had to come to the

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>realization that there wasn't something being better out there. But

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>just just say the Redskins could have done that that

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>deal with Cam Newton, Well, then the only reason not

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>to do it is because you don't want to have

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Cam Newton here to impede Dwayne Haskins and to even

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>if Dwayne asking the starter, with Cam Newton as the backup,

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>you don't want him looking over his shoulder in that way.

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think everything that we've seen speaks to the

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>fact that this is going to be Dwayne Haskins. Team

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>is going to be make or break. It's going to

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>be sink or swim. He's the guy, and whether they

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>become a successful team in the short and medium term

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>depends on whether he develops into the quarterback he was

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>drafted to be. You can fall him on Twitter at

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Mark Maski. That is at Mark Maski, NFL reporter for

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the Washington Post. Mark, thanks so much for taking some

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>time out with us this morning. We'll talk to you

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>down the road. Take it easy and join it. Thanks guys. Okay, so, Jason,

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>here's this is an honest question. Okay, is the president wrong?

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, we all know his tone, how his

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>tone is right, like, he just has no bedside manner.

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So even when he says something you might agree with you,

0:29:58.280 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, the way he says he's just such, he

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:03.959
<v Speaker 1>just I just it just not not I guess what

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you're used to or what my level of expectations for

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the office would be. But is he is he wrong

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:17.239
<v Speaker 1>in that Indians redskins were uh, they weren't meant to

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>mock in any way Native American cultures, like when you're

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about sport, it's somebody's strong, virile. I mean, even

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>like you know the warrior image by the way warriors.

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>The problem with that, it's like Marquette changed their name

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>nickname in ninety four because it was deemed as offensive

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to Native Americans in the area, which I don't I

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know how being a warrior is a bad thing,

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>but I guess it is deemed to be a bad thing.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>So my question is, like, I get you don't like

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the message. People don't like the messenger and maybe the

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>tone of the message, But is he wrong that we

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>have changed our political correctness has changed to where now

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Indians and Redskins are deemed politically incorrect. I could I

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>could see that point if I thought the President was

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>doing this for because he disagreed with this on on

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>some kind of level. That is about how he feels

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>about these teams in sports. But as you can see,

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>everything he does is is politically Like what's he done

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>the past few days? He is he has decided I'm

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>going to rally my base, and there's many people that

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>don't like, you know, the fact that we're changing everything.

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>We're changing the Washington's nickname in the Indians. All this

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>this is political, Like he decides to get involved in

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the Bubba Wallas situation on money and no question, but

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that's this is election politics. I get it. Yeah, but

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't without getting deep into the weeds of it.

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.959
<v Speaker 1>Is he right for what he's saying that they do

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>name teams out of strength, Yeah, he's he's right about that.

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>But what he what he doesn't get into is that

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>over time, certain situations evolve, and that just because something

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>was a good idea and it was accepted for a

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>long time doesn't mean that after a while and new

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>information for things have come to light, it now suddenly

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>is a bad idea. You know, the Confederate flag was

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>accepted for so long and okay, well we have to

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Confederate flag. It was it was Southern heritage, and it

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>was about us, you know, becoming becoming one and and

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and I get that, but then I went when I know,

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>but I would I would disagree with you on Southern

0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>on you know, I don't think the Confederate flag was

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>what from the from the moment of that you ever

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>saw it at a Southern football game or a NASCAR track,

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it it meant different things to different people. You know.

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I look, do I agree with you on that language evolves?

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I do, I do, um, I just I don't. My

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>issue is that for red like redskins, for example, was

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>never it wasn't deemed to be a slur by Native

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Americans for the longest time. And it's almost like White

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.479
<v Speaker 1>America's convinced them, no, it's a slur, like if it

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 1>was the and we'll get into why. You know, like

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:55.479
<v Speaker 1>if the Washington Jews, right, well, like being a Jewish,

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that's not a slur. It's actually not you know how

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>how you make the mascot look could make it into

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>a slur like if it was or if it was

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the Maccabee's right, which if you know the story of

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Dave and the Maccabees, they they took back Jerusalem, they

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>came down from the from the hills of Jerusalem and

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>took it back I think from the Romans, right, like

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>if you built this big, strong, proud warrior, that that's

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>that's the image of strength. And I that's the argument there,

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and so what I'm what my point is like the

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>argument hasn't actually changed, and I guess language has evolved.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, that that kind of goes into my point

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<v Speaker 1>of yesterday, which is no one uses redskin as a slur.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not Um is it could be seen as

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<v Speaker 1>a negative identification of a Native American person. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it could, but that would be loaded in

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<v Speaker 1>with whatever preconceived notion you have of who a Native

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<v Speaker 1>American is. And when you represent them with the image

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<v Speaker 1>of a proud warrior and leader, you know, of of

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<v Speaker 1>a football team, I think you're you're reaching for something

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that might not be there. And look, I don't I

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want a football team to be called the the

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<v Speaker 1>dirty Jews or something, right, but that's not what the

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<v Speaker 1>Redskins are. They're the Redskins. It's hailed to the Redskins.

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<v Speaker 1>So while I can disagree with his politics and with

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>his tone, and I agree with you that this is

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 1>this is politically this is you know, election year politics,

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>picking out thing. This is you know, classic Donald Trump.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 1>This is what he does. And um, I actually think

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>in terms of this message, he's not wrong. The question

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<v Speaker 1>is are we being politically correct to be politically correct

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<v Speaker 1>or were being politically correct because Native Americans are actually

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<v Speaker 1>super offended and want it changed. There's something that I

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<v Speaker 1>that over the course of my career, I understand more

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<v Speaker 1>than I did when I was younger. And that's the

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 1>phrase perception is reality, A right. I never I didn't

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 1>really understand that when I was younger, but I kind

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of really get that now. Where you know, for anybody

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>like you or I could be thinking, hey, we're doing

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>a great job. You know here at Fox Sports Radio.

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Everything is great. We're doing great, and the shows are

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 1>doing well. And then you meet with your managers or

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>your bosses. This is anybody that does anything for a living,

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and you think, okay, this is gonna be a great meeting.

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask for a raise, and all this stuff

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.280
<v Speaker 1>is going on, and then you get told, well, here's

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the things you know the past few months, there's this,

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>there's this, there's this. You know, maybe you haven't sounded

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>as energetic on the air, you haven't done and you're

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>saying to yourself, what the hell are you talking about? Well,

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand all of this. Where is this coming from?

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>And then you can disagree and walk out at meeting

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>go well, they're crazy, I'm just gonna go do my thing,

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>or you can sit back and say, wait a minute. Okay,

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>if the perception is that I'm not doing a good job,

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>then the reality at work is that I'm not doing

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>a good job. Regardless as to what I think, the

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>perception is that I'm not doing good job. So that's

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 1>my reality, is that my bosses don't think I'm doing

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>a good job. They don't think I'm doing this. Their

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>perception now because of more information that has come to

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>light is hey, there is there is there is there

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>is more evidence that the nicknames are more racial than

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>we're first thought. So if you agree or disagree on it,

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.439
<v Speaker 1>the reality is there are many people now that think

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>this is the case. And so if many people think

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>something is is racist, well guess what, that's going to

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:18.919
<v Speaker 1>be pushed as racist and people are going to see

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 1>it that way because if you, even if you can't

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>see it that way, many other people can, and that

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 1>this is this is why we have things, why we

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.720
<v Speaker 1>have these kind of checks and balances going on in society,

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>because other people can see something and maybe it opens

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>you up to that. And while this may have been

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the case, because I agreed that in the beginning they

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean anything by by the way they name they

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>name the teams. You have to evolve at some point

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and realize it, Okay, maybe this isn't the best idea,

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and let's let's try to figure out a way forward

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>from here instead of well, you know, as you and

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>I had the conversation on the show yesterday, you know,

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>we had conversations with different viewpoints. It was the way

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>conversations are supposed to be without it devolving into yelling

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and who's wrong and who's this and who's that. That's

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of where this conversation needs to go. I don't

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>think President Trump's gonna take it in that way. I

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>don't think many people want to push it in that way.

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>It needs to be okay, So where does a conversation

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>go from here? It has to be something more than

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>than well, we believe a we believe be and you

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>can't meet anywhere in the middle. Yeah, I mean, I

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>just think that the big, one, big takeaway should be

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:23.919
<v Speaker 1>d This just to me is like I do think.

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>And again, if Sneyder is he's not Trump, but there's

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>a Trump way about him where he's just so abrupt

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and my way or the highway, I don't know if

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the nickname would have stood if it was any other owner.

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.479
<v Speaker 1>But I do think that he hurt the how how

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>this is going down is a lot because of Dan Sneyder.

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.720
<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, I'll defend him from the standpoint like, look,

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>when you're working with the information that a man, We've

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>done studies, we've asked, we've talked with Native American leaders,

0:37:56.120 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>and they see it as a point of pride. That's

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>what's most important, and that's who the nickname should or

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>should not have any effect on. And so I do

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>think that now if that has changed, well then okay,

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>now you as you said, things evolve over time. But

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 1>for people who are you know, they woke up, they're like, man,

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>this is racist. It's always been racist. Like okay, maybe

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 1>that's how you feel, but that's not how the important

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>people felt for a long time. Twitter at how about

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0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:40.799
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0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.480
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0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Dan That's Today. Coming up in ten minutes. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a big story out of the National Football League revolving

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 1>around something DeShawn Jackson put out on social media recently,

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>so we have that coming up in a few minutes.

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:13.840
<v Speaker 1>But last night we saw what was supposed to be

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully it was going to be a big night

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.720
<v Speaker 1>for Major League Baseball as they had their schedule reveal.

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Everybody got to see where their teams are going to

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>be playing mostly regionalized games against teams in your division

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and teams that geographically align with teams in your division.

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>For example, the NL East and the AL East will

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:33.320
<v Speaker 1>play teams in their division, they will play against each other. However,

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>on the backdrop of this, we're teams closing their camps

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>yesterday because COVID nineteen test results weren't back, and a

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>general sense of unease about Major League Baseball in their

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:47.479
<v Speaker 1>attempts to come back and play during the coronavirus pandemic. Now, Doug,

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>this is still early and it's you know, we're just

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 1>getting teams coming back now, so there is a lot

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 1>to unfold and this time to get past. Do you

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 1>see at all any trouble Baseball is in, you know,

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to hit the ground running, and here they are

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>supposed to have some big days where everybody's back in

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>its pageantry and now here's a schedule lease and still

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>the undertone is that things are not going well enough

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<v Speaker 1>from a lot of teams perspectives, that MLB's got to

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.959
<v Speaker 1>step up more. No, I think I think it's gonna

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>be fine. You know, I actually believe what Major League

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Baseball said. It was like, look, some of this testing

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff wasn't done over the weekend fourth of July, like

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, And I thought it was funny.

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Apparently some of the Angels took their own tests because

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:34.359
<v Speaker 1>the testers didn't show up. But No, I also the

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>way in which the game is played, I think you

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>can space people out, and the way in which baseball instruction,

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>which there are stars, but there's just so many players

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 1>that if a guy unlike the NBA playoffs, and I

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.439
<v Speaker 1>want to get to this upcoming just a thought I have.

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a bit of conspiracy theorist in me on the

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>NBA playoffs and what I think is very very likely

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to stop happening once we get deep. But for a

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball I look, I think there's a lot

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of good that's going to come from this. Um. I actually,

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't like the DH, but there's been a

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 1>long push for for having note for having a DH

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>across both the division. Both leagues gonna have that, And

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of playing teams close to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't we do this more often? You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get people in the stands. Dodgers and Angels,

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 1>uh A's and Giants, Mets and Yankees should play each

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<v Speaker 1>other more often, not less often, that the leagues are.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the history of it, but it's a little

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>bit dated for me in terms of just not just

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 1>cost to travel, but reason to reason to cheer for

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>a team. You know, I just sorry, I don't care

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 1>about the Astros against the Angels. I would care much

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>more about the Dodgers versus the Angels. That's just me.

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you wonder if this is something that

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>if this works, the NFL might try to pick it up.

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>We have to change our schedule a bit or college football.

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 1>We got to just play close the NFL across country

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>like the NFL. I mean, the Ramsen Chargers should play

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>each other twice a year, the Jetson Giants should play

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>each other twice a year every year. That the challenge

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 1>in the new century at post quarantine is going to

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 1>be getting people into stadiums. The best way to get

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 1>people into stadiums is to play somebody who's either in

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 1>our trival or a close and proximity rival. I think

0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:22.760
<v Speaker 1>those work for me. Twitter At how about a Fresca

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Doug at Gottlieb Show Jason Smith Doug Gottlieb in for

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Dan and the dan Nets. Coming up next, a big

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.759
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