1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: and John Oshan. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now. 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, May nineteen, 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, NFL media analyst and senior writer 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: for Jaguars dot Com. John Osier, We'll get to the 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: overblown reaction to Travis et N lining up at wide Receiver. 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: Will continue that conversation Urban Meyer dealing with criticism. It 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: comes with the smallest things, that feels like these days. 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: We'll get to maybe his mindset on that and rookie 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Camp takeaways after this past weekend. We've got a lot 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: to get to today. Bucky, what's up man? How he 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: do it? And I know you probably watched from Afar 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: some of the mini camp coverage on Jaguars dot Com. Yeah, 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: I was really excited. It was great to get the 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: reports I got. I got you tweeting out everything, keep 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: me up to date while I'm watching and baseball or whatever. 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: And then I got John's reports coming back after each 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: day with his takeaways. I liked it, and I like 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: the conversation. I like the all I was one of 20 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. It's funny, though, how people take little snippets 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: and nuggets from press conferences and they make things maybe 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: more than what they really should make. Maybe maybe maybe, 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: but they don't. Here's the thing, but can I have 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: a media guy, I mean his business that twenty two. 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: What was annoying about this one to me is Urban 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: never said he was moving E t N the wide receiver. 27 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: He's working him at wide receiver during a three day 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: rookie minicamp. When the quarterback can't hand off, there's nothing. 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: There's no way for him to take handoffs from. Had 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: he worked at running back, Because buy you played the game, 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: how hard is it to learn running back? Those stand 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: over there and I'll pitch you the ball. And I'm 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: exaggerating that, but it's the easiest position to learn. It's knows, 34 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: as Fred Taylor said a couple of days ago, it's 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: still nine instinct that position. You gotta learn plays. I 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: get that, you gotta learn blitz pick up when it 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: comes to running the book. He wasn't gonna learn blitz 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: pick up at the rookie minicamp. He wasn't gonna learn 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: how to run and how to hit the holes you 40 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: knew he was going to be a hybrid. You knew 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: he was gonna work on routes. And I've said this 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: a million times this week. When did you want him 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: to start running the routes? Bucky Labor Day, Veterans Day. 44 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: Now is the time to start doing that. It made 45 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: perfect sense to work in there. I don't know where else. 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: I don't know where else you would have worked. And 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: how are you how is he gonna work at running back? 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: Like like it's funny, right? So um my initial reactually 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: when I saw it hit Twitter, then I folled upside 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: on JP time and I was like, Okay, he's getting 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: to work at wide receiver, he's doing this or whatever. 52 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: But then I had a memory and I think I 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: told you guys this the first time that I was scouting. 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: My first year scouting, I go to Utah Urban is 55 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: there and at the time, many are flipping the ball 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: and they got a wing back, a guy named Paris 57 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: Warren who ended up going to tam Bay Buccaneers, and 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: Paris Warren is coming in fly motion things that we 59 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: see all the time now. But I'm like, what in 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: the world is this? Like they're they're coming up he's 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: coming in motion, they're handing it to him, he's going 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: behind him. They're flipping them running options. They're starting one 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: way and running shovel passes. And that was that was 64 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: radical back then too. Now that was Yeah, it changed 65 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: guys football. And so Alex Smith is the quarterback then, 66 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like WHOA, Like this is this is pretty cool, 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Like this is creative. And then he goes to Florida 68 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: and Percy Harvin is put in that spot. He goes 69 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: Ohio State. Yeah, Braxton Miller and Curtis Samuel and Paris Campbell. 70 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: The h back position in his offense is the position 71 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: for the most explosive, most dynamic playmaker. And when he's 72 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: had his way where he's been able to use multiple guys, 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: he'll put multiple guys in that spot. And so when 74 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: he had Jalen Marshall, who was a quarterback turn wide 75 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: receiver at Ohio State, he would be in the backfield 76 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: with some other guys and any of those guys could 77 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: take the direct snaff and do some funny things. And 78 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: so when I think about at the end, I was like, well, 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: this is just the first domino to drop, because when 80 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: he gets his hands on la Viscus Channa. I guarantee 81 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: that he's going to have some opportunities to touch the 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: ball and do that. And it's all part of a 83 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: plan that we've heard him talking about. We need big plays, 84 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: explosive plays. The only way that you really score points 85 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: in this league is you gotta be to generate explosive plays. 86 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: And so Travis Aten's experiment or experience at wide receiver 87 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: is all part of a mission to put the best 88 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: playmakers on the field at the same time to increase 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: the anti when it comes to hey, how can we 90 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: get these explosive plays that we need to score j 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: This will a little bit in the second thing of 92 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: Urban always being criticized. So I kind of took your 93 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: job away from you. I apologize. You're much better Stegway 94 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: than I am. Don't worry about it. You're fine. Um. 95 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, when the forty Niners were hot, 96 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: Shanahan gets all kind of credit for being created with 97 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel, right, and he was a genius. Hey, hey, 98 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: look at how creative he's being. Well, that's all this 99 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: is in reverse. If this was Deebo Samuel getting some 100 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: reps at running back. Oh, look at Shanny. He he's 101 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: the guy, he's creative. Well, they're just doing this in reverse. 102 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: And if anything, they got the ideas from Meyer from 103 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: way back when. So he's being criticized for doing something 104 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: people stolen from him and getting credit for it. This 105 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: lightbulb is too bright. We can't use this anymore. So 106 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: it's Uh, here's the thing. If they had drafted Channel 107 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: this year, they'd beat doing the same thing in reverse 108 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: and everybody be saying, well, I mean last year in 109 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: the Jaguars did this with chal everybody said how creative 110 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: it was. Hey, you're putting a wide receiver using them 111 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: in different spots. Well, at some point they worked him 112 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: at different positions in practice. I guess Urban was just 113 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: silly enough to be upfront about. Yeah, and I didn't 114 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: say anything. I mean, I know I can tell, I 115 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: can tell. But here's what I would say with Travis Etienne, 116 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: and he talked about him being a space player or 117 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: matchup player. When we think about two at the time 118 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: of running backs in football, we think about Christie McCaffrey 119 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: and Alvin Kamar. Christian McCaffrey is in two clubs that 120 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: are really hard to get into hundred one thousand, hundred receptions, 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: one thousand yards. He did that three years ago, then 122 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: two years ago he was in one thousand, one thousand, 123 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: a thousand rushing yards and thousand receiving yards. When you 124 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: think about Travis Atien and physically how he's built man, 125 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: as much as I love him as a huner, if 126 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: you can give him six to eight catches in space, 127 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: whereas one on one, one on two, two on two 128 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: games with him and a blocker and two defenders as 129 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: opposed to having to deal with eleven on eleven, the 130 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: odds of him breaking out on the explosive plate increase 131 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: when you have fewer defenders. This could be a move 132 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: designed to not only take advantage of his receiving skills, 133 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: but to preserve him from the pounding that most running 134 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: backs take. We should think about when we get into 135 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: the regular season. Let's tally of his total touches and 136 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: his total yards from scrimmage, and if he's over a 137 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: hundred scrimmage yards, that's a really good day. Whatever the 138 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: combination of runs and catches are, can he beat McCaffrey. 139 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: But I would say he's not the route runner that 140 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey was coming out of Stanford, but us it. 141 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: He does catch the ball, and if you force feed 142 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: him the ball where you throw it to him, he 143 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: certainly can make it happen. I just want you to 144 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: think about this. Leonard. For Nett, I want to say, 145 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: called seven eight or seventy nine balls his last four 146 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: season in with the Jacks, and he was more of 147 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: a checkdown option. If you put the ball in Travis 148 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: Aten's hands seventy plus times in the passing game, he 149 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: is going to have more explosive plays than for Nett had. 150 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: And so we have to think about it in those terms. 151 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: Because he can make guys miss, Leonard was not the 152 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: really the type to make guys miss. When he was 153 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: out in the space, he would try to run over guys. 154 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast J P. Shaddick, Bucky 155 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: Brooks and John Osier and John you Tez did. Let's 156 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: discuss this a little bit more. The criticism that urban 157 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: Meyer takes. Now, let's real talk. This kind of goes 158 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: back to the old college days with him Florida and 159 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: Ohio State. There were some off the field things that 160 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: were fair criticisms that both of those stops. He also 161 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: want a lot of football games and both of those 162 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: stops too. Um but here so far, you know, the 163 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: crystal oil thing is the first thing. Now everybody has 164 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: a Tim Tebow opinion all of a sudden, and now 165 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: it's the e T N A wide receiver thing. There 166 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: was on ESPN on Monday, on the Get Up program 167 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: in the morning and even a little later on NFL 168 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: Live later in the day. They use those three things 169 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: together on a graphic in order to say how things 170 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: are going in Jacksonville. They have nothing to do with 171 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: each other. I think it goes back to that the 172 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: college stuff with Urban, and it's the new shiny thing 173 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: to discuss, and it will get a reaction because Urban's 174 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: name gets a reaction one way or another. And you 175 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: throw the Tim Tebow thing in there on top of it. 176 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: I think all of it, not all of it, but 177 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: a lot of it is just not even close to 178 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: accurate and it's not really fair. But I think Urban, 179 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: in his younger days, John would probably take it a 180 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: little harsher. I'm going to guess since he's a little 181 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: older and wiser now and has been through some stuff 182 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: that he's probably not as reactive to it. Uh, though 183 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: you don't want any really hammering you this early before 184 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: they even take a snap. I'm curious how he how 185 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: he takes that type of criticism when it's really just unfair. JP. 186 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: Like you, I'm not going to pretend to know Urban 187 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: well enough to know how he's going to take things internally. 188 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: And I didn't cover him in Florida. Uh, but people 189 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: I know covered with Florida and they said, look, he 190 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: really didn't get caught up a lot in what people 191 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: said or what people wrote about I just don't think 192 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: he considers it. And this is my interpretation of him, 193 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: just from being around him and talking to people about him. 194 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: He's laser focused on what's important, and to him, what's 195 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: important is you know, he talked about his sports performance, 196 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: getting this program right, building a culture, developed relationships with players, 197 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: getting the offense, getting the defense, getting the roster good 198 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: enough to go win. You know what I haven't mentioned 199 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: in that list, JP, what people are saying. You know 200 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches say, well, I don't read that, 201 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: I don't listen to sport. Let's talk. I don't know 202 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: what you guys are saying about him. Most coaches who 203 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: say that are are disingenuous about it. I kind of 204 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: get the idea that Urban really doesn't care that much, 205 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, And I guess why should he. He's he 206 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: went like, he went nine and one in college, he 207 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: won up team national championships. He has a right to 208 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: be confident in what he's doing, only he's bothered by it. 209 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: But I do think you're exactly right the criticism and 210 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: all this stuff. The common sports fan, the common football fan, 211 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: is sort of pre programmed to criticize Urban Meyer. He 212 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: doesn't smile a whole lot, he wins too much. In college, 213 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: he was sort of the coach that was easy to dislike, 214 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: sort of like say that when you win that much, 215 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: it's easy to dislike you because you're the villain. You're 216 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: beating everybody's team. So I think people are predisposed to 217 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: not like an Urban very much. And uh, you know, 218 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: I guess it's a Jaguars podcast. I would say the 219 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars fans, who cares? He's your guy? I just don't 220 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: think he cares that much. And I don't think Chris 221 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: doesn't matter that much. But I do think that's where 222 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: it stems from. Bucky. Oh, it absolutely stems from that. 223 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: For the casuals, as they're called they they look Urban 224 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: Meyer hurts them because he is a guy that comes 225 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: from the college game and was the ultimate winner. He 226 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: wanted every place and not only did they win, they 227 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: won big and they want an impressive fashion. And so 228 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: when you see a guy who Urban being Urban as 229 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: an ultimate confident guy who talks about with these catchphrases 230 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: and the ultimate competitor and plus two and A two 231 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: B four to six, all those things that have been 232 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: central parts of his program, people are like, wow, like 233 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Charlie Brown's teacher, right, And so they get tired of 234 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: and so they want to see him. They want to 235 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: see him fail, and they want to be able to 236 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: say like, see, he couldn't make it, uh, Nick Saban 237 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: couldn't make it, and those things. And so it becomes 238 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: that the Chris Door thing look gave those fans an 239 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: opportunity or those who want to see him fail, an 240 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of talk about a this is the 241 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: big Boys lead man. You can't do what you did 242 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: in college. You can't do that. The Tim Tebow thing 243 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: is really look putting two polarizing forces together. When you 244 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: have Tim Tebow and all the stuff that comes along 245 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: with him, with Urban Meyer being who he is, all 246 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: of that kind of it comes together because I thought 247 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: there was another story that was overblown based on what 248 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: it really is and what it could be if he signs, 249 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: you know, and so it's one of those things. But 250 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: what I would say Jaguars fans and everybody else is 251 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: for so long that Jaguars have always been like the underdog. 252 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: There hasn't been a lot of winning over the last decade, 253 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: and so it's natural to take that take on that 254 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: mantra a with the underdog, with the little engine that 255 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: could and all that. Urban doesn't see himself like that, 256 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars aren't going to see themselves like that. 257 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: So we all have to kind of flip from being 258 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: like the little field good story to kind of be 259 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: in the villain. And so I'm okay with that because 260 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: even though we're still is the primary, Like I don't 261 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: mind we're all black and be in the bag. I'm 262 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: okay JP. You know what, I kind of fit into 263 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: that as a college can college football fan, as a 264 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: casual college football fan. You know me, we talked football, 265 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: I followed I followed college football enough to know I 266 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: wish there was more defense, and I kind of like 267 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: watching it to figure out the players you're coming to 268 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: the league. I'm not an avid college football fan, but 269 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. For ten years, I sort of rooted 270 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: against Ohio State because I wasn't a big urban mind, 271 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, as a casual fan. I looked at this 272 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: guy and said, he's he's Darth Vader. He and I 273 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: didn't like or dislike urban Am I saying that, but 274 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: it's easy to root against him. And I kind of 275 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: rooted against Ohio State because I don always Semire win 276 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: another win, another national championship. I don't want to see 277 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: Saban win another one. I root against Bama JP, even 278 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: though I like you sometimes, but it's uh, here's the thing, though, 279 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: Here's what's important in all this. As you get to 280 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: know urban Meyer a little bit, and and as you 281 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: get to watch him up close, you realize why he's 282 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: been good at places, you realize why he wins. There's 283 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: an incredible conviction and a confidence in knowing what's right. 284 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't really care if he thinks it's right. He's 285 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: not gonna sway based on public opinion. I don't think 286 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: saving is either. I don't think most great coaches do. 287 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: I certainly like him more, in respect him more from 288 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: seeing him how he operates. And it's not just because 289 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: the same guy signs are checks that I have. I 290 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: have a real respect for how he goes about it. 291 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: I like guys in those positions who don't listen to noise, 292 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think he listens to noise. I think 293 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. It's unwavering, Bucky, because and and 294 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: for guys like that, for Saban at Alabama and for 295 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: urban at Ohio State and now here in Jacksonville, those 296 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: kind of guys that have done it, that have a 297 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: track record of building like that, you have to give 298 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: them full autonomy, ease to the castle to be able 299 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that their processes are working well. I mean, 300 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: that's that's the way this thing is start. It's the culture, 301 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: it's the process, it's everything, whatever term you want to 302 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: use for it. That's the only way these guys can 303 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: really put together their programs. Yeah, it is the only 304 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: way they can put together the program. And that's why 305 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: it's so important for those guys that are making the 306 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: move from college to the pros. Then they're giving the 307 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to build their proteins like they were able to 308 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: build their college powerhouses, and so for Urban Mari, they 309 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: have complete autonomy, to have complete control over the football operations. 310 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: It had to be like that so he could fully 311 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: put in his plan, and we can say a lot 312 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: like The one thing that I know about coach Meyer 313 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: is we have seen him put in this plan at 314 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: multiple places and it's worked, So why wouldn't it work? Now? 315 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: From Bowling Green to Uta out of Florida to Ohio State, 316 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: he has one. He's won quickly, and so the expectation 317 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: is that the Jaguars are gonna win. And so my expectations, 318 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna see him walk through full of confidence for 319 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 1: the swagon, full of all of that stuff. Because also 320 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: remember this, it's not only um, the media and all 321 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: of us on the outside looking at coachmor in terms 322 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: of how he carries himself. His players, who have not 323 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: experienced a lot of winning are also looking at that. 324 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: And so how he carries himself will give them a 325 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: blueprint for how they're supposed to carry themselves. And I 326 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: think he always knows that he is on and he 327 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: is being looked at, and that's why I don't think 328 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: he really bristles at all of that other stuff because 329 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: he wants to show the same focus that he's demanding 330 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: from his players. This is the Huddle Up Podcast j P. Shadrick, 331 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: John Osier, Bucky Brooks. Glad you're along with us, and 332 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: thanks for the subscription to the Official Jaguars Podcast Network 333 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 334 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: Give us that five star treatment as always in a 335 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: comment or two or three. We appreciate that. And single 336 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: game tickets for preseason and regular season are on sale now. 337 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: Visit Jaguars dot com or call n O four six three. 338 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: There's a team of representatives ready to help you get 339 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: back in the bank in one. Speaking of the single 340 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: game tickets, Bucky, the schedule, of course came out last week. 341 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: We haven't talked to you, I think since then. So 342 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: what's your favorite game stretch of games moment in the 343 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: initial look at the Jaguars schedule, Well, my favorite games 344 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: are early in the preseason to see what it looks 345 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: like the beginning stages, because what I'm fascinated and curious 346 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: to see is how does it start for coach buyer 347 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: and how does it end? Meaning how quickly can he 348 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,959 Speaker 1: adapt to thinking about the game from a collegiate standpoint 349 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: to an NFL standpoint, And really it will come down 350 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: to those division games, right, like, how how much can 351 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: we close the gap on our division rival, so the 352 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Coast and the Titans, because ultimately to go to the 353 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: play off, the quickest way is to win the division. 354 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: And so what does it look like when we play 355 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: those division games? So I'm really curious to see what 356 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: it looks like down the stretch after Trevor Lawrence settles 357 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: in and we play down the end and see just 358 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: what it looks like. It would be competitive enough to 359 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: maybe Chris for a five hundred records or better? What 360 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: does this team look like as he adjust and acclimates 361 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: to the pro game. We heard some things this is 362 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: unrelated to the Jaguars, but Titty Bridgewater talked about the 363 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers practice schedule and how they were going, and 364 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: I think the thing that stood out to me is 365 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: they just didn't pay enough tention to situations. And the 366 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: college game is not as much situational football as the 367 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: pro game. Because most games in the NFL are decided 368 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: about eight points a fewer. The college game isn't like that, 369 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: and with fewer total players in the game. Every player 370 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: has more importance in every situation increases in terms of 371 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: the number of the amount of pressure can coach Meyer 372 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: on a stand at and Kenny get better at that 373 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: part of it? As his rookie season as a coach, well, 374 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: Bucky said, how does it start? And has it in 375 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how it ends. It is in the 376 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: damn Super Bowl is how it ends. So let's get 377 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: that serious. It's to your point about the situations. I'm 378 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: gonna guess that that has been a huge conversation over 379 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: the years between Urban and Belichick, and they're close. Uh 380 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: you know. My guess is because Belichick is so good 381 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: at that, and I'm I'm sort of freewheeling a little 382 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: bit there. I don't I know nothing about their relationship, 383 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: but my guess is, if you ask Belichick what the 384 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: most important thing they do, it's probably situational. They're so 385 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: good at that. Uh, They've won super Bowls based on 386 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: that when they may not have had the better team 387 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: because they're so good at it. My guess is, as 388 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: much as Urban learned from talking to people over the 389 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: years how to prepare for this job, I would be 390 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: surprised if the emphasis on situations wasn't at the top 391 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: of his list of the things that, as you said, 392 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: maybe not quite as important in college to paramount in 393 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. I've got to think that was the first 394 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: thing Belichick told him and has told him over the 395 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: over and over the years, if he's being honest. Now, 396 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: maybe Bill kept that from conference because you know, the 397 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: same conference. Maybe you didn't want him to know there's 398 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: crafty like that. But you know, that's definitely a huge 399 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: point that he'll need to adjust to. But I'm thinking 400 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: that will be a big part of it. Yeah, it's 401 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: funny get ship that John like and listening uh to 402 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: old Urban my interviews, he talks about those things, and 403 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: he talks about like what everyone, if you want to 404 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: be a great situational football team, the first thing you 405 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: have to do is you gotta master the part of 406 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: not beating yourself, and not beating yourself consists of eliminating 407 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: the priest penalties, like really limiting the turnovers the big 408 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: place that you're allowing in terms of don't let the 409 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: ball fly over your head when the turnover battle, those things, 410 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: and so he certainly is preached that he's talked about 411 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: that at the collegiate level now is taking what you 412 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: talk about and making sure throughout the practice week and 413 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: in games that you implement it and you're able to 414 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: play situational football. The one thing that might help him 415 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: more than some other collegiate coaches that have made the jump. 416 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: Irban Meyer was in charge of the special teams at 417 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: every spot that he was like as the head coach, 418 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: he coached the special teams, and anyone will tell you 419 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: that special teams coaches have to be on it when 420 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: it comes to situations because they managed the game from 421 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: afar there the bridge between offense and defense and those things. 422 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: And so if he takes that same approach where not 423 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: that he's necessarily running the special teams, but that same 424 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: mindset where it's always about managing the game and controlling 425 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: the game, he'll be fine when it comes to the 426 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: situations after he plays a handful of games in the 427 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: regular season and also in the preseason. This the Huddle 428 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: Up Podcast, J P Shadrick, Bucky Brooks, John Oser, Glad 429 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: you've joined us today. The Dailies Place schedule continues to 430 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: grow as things open back up. A W Dynamite May thirty. 431 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: It's a w's double or Nothing pay per view than 432 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: the Tedesky Trucks Fireside Live two nights with pieces of 433 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: the Tedesky Trucks Band Friday June eleventh, in June twelfth, 434 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: and a couple of shows recently announced. Three eleven is 435 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: coming Wednesday, September that's a flashback to the late nineteen 436 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: nineties and Alice Cooper with Ace Freely Saturday, October nine. 437 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: John Osan will be at that one. Tickets at Daily's 438 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: Place dot com. Welcome to my nightmare, John School for 439 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: summer data data. My good friend from college, Steve Sitaris, 440 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: was the most mammoth Alice Cooper fan. I never really 441 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: got it until later in life, but uh, I like 442 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: the idea of Alice Cooper. I like it there's an 443 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: Alice Cooper in the world because he yeh, he changed 444 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: a lot, and he's got to be pushing what mid 445 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: seventies now, you gotta be right. Ace Freely was the 446 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: elite guitarist by the way, eighteen times about five. Bucky 447 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: has no idea what we're talking about right now. I 448 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: can just tell you that I've heard the names, but 449 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: if you press me on a song, I would have 450 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: to call a lifeline. If this was one of those tributess, 451 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: I would I would need a lifeline some mill. But 452 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: I've heard the name, and I'm sure if I heard 453 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: the song, I'll be like, Okay, yeah, I've heard one 454 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: or two it or something. Well, if we get you 455 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: in town Saturday, October nine, we will go to the 456 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: show at Daily's place, and we will introduce you to 457 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: Alice Cooper. Yeah, Alice Cooper. I suppose they're not binge 458 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: watching documentaries lately. I suppose it is a terrific guy. 459 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: Couldn't be more down to earth sports fans. Yeah, it's 460 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: a great golfer. And uh, I think I got sober 461 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: playing golf, you know, is a story within. So I'd 462 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: love to meet Alice Cooper. I don't you know he's 463 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: uh maybe maybe he feels the same way about me. 464 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: J Maybe he's sitting there. I can't wait a week. 465 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet John. Maybe he's one of 466 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: the ghost emailers on your ozone you never know, the 467 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: Q and A stuff. Maybe we'll have him on the pod, 468 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, Maybe we'll just have him on this concert 469 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: and lucky you'll get introduced. Um, let's let's get some 470 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: takeaways from Rookie Mini Camp and Bucky. As we said earlier, 471 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: you're watching from afar um. Trevor is a real deal, 472 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: even with one arm right now. It just looks a 473 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: little different with him, and there's a presence about him. Yes, 474 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: it was a slower rookie mini camp, but there's a 475 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: reason he is who he is. They were limiting him. 476 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: No snaps from center, no handoffs, as we've of course 477 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: noted a pitch count for him, but they're more concerned 478 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: about that other stuff instead of the throwing arm. That's fine. 479 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: It says everything you want in the press conference to 480 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: that's all those boxes are checked. Urban Meyer raved about Walker, 481 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: little John six seven, body fat, and you could tell 482 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: he's got a presence about himself too. Let's see him 483 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: though against veterans and in pads, but so far John 484 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: Urban loves him. Yeah. I didn't be honest to see 485 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: that much from anybody else. And we were out there 486 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: fifty five minutes. Uh Cisco wasn't out there to failely 487 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: wasn't out there, Jordan Smith. I don't how much're gonna 488 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: see from a pass rusher in this situation, but I 489 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: was glad somebody asked Urban about Walker Little. I was 490 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: going to because he's the most intriguing guy in the 491 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: draft class to me outside Trevor Lawrence, because you keep 492 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: looking at the measurables on this guy. How good he 493 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: was in the Pac twelve as a sophomore. When you 494 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: see his body, Bucky, I'm not going to compare him 495 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: to Basely, because Bassely was otherworldly. He's best player I 496 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: ever covered him and Fred Taylor but Well and Peyton, 497 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: but I put him up there with those guys. But 498 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: Walker Little. Bassellly never looked uncomfortable in his body, meaning 499 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: he looked like at six seven, three twenty you remember 500 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: he moved like a wide receiver. He wasn't as fast 501 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: as that. But the point is when you walked in 502 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: the practice field, I always told people was about to selling. 503 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: If you walked in the practice field and looked a 504 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: bit at him across the practice field he was standing alone, 505 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: you weren't sure that he wasn't a tight end or 506 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: a defensive end or a line He was proportional. He 507 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: didn't have to grow into being a left tackle. He 508 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: he was put on this earth to play the position. 509 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: He was a natural three fifteen Walker little sort of 510 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: feels that way to me too, and I think that matters. 511 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: I think the great ones look comfortable doing it, and 512 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: Urban or Trent, I'm not sure which one set it 513 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: after the draft, but talked about how he makes hard 514 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: things look easy at his position. That matters at that spot, 515 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: it's not unnatural for him to punch, it's not unnatural 516 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: for him to step back. I just think this kid 517 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: might be really, really good. I know that's weird saying 518 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: that after one or two mini camp practices, but all 519 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: the boxes keep being checked for this guy. Now, it's 520 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: funny that you bring that up. You talk about his size. 521 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: I think it's really important when you think about his size. Know, 522 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: we talk about UM last podcast, Jordan Smith, the pastors 523 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: from you a b who had come by way of 524 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: Florida and all that other stuff. UM and maybe Irvan 525 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: got this from Nick Saban. Nick Saban has a saying 526 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: that I've I've heard many teams adopt where it came 527 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: from Belichick. They talked about there's a reason why I'm boxed, 528 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: and you have different weight classifications, and that you don't 529 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: put middle weights in with heavyweights, and that if you 530 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: have a team for the heavyweights at some point those 531 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: little guys getting knocked out the ring. The one thing 532 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: that I've talked about is not only did they go 533 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: and get big school guys? Do they not only get 534 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: four and five star guys, but you can see the 535 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: size and you're going to see a team that when 536 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: look I know, inside college, but when they walk off 537 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: the bus, they don't look like they're supposed to look. Now, 538 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: getting into play is one thing, but they're going to 539 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: look the part. And when you talk about Walker a 540 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: little and some of the other guys like Travis Etienne 541 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: looking quick and fast and explosive, Trouble Lawrence looking like 542 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: a prototypical franchise quarterback, the Jaguars are quickly remaking themselves 543 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: into one of those prototype teams. And so if they 544 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: keep assembling and collecting a bunch of heavyweights, where you're 545 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: gonna have a big, old, physical, heavyweight football team that's 546 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna be able to go toto toe with some of 547 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: those physical teams that exist in AFC and to fairly 548 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: sort of fits that too, doesn't. I mean, he's a 549 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: prototy nose tackle. I mean and by the way, John 550 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: I saw to fairly walking through the hall on Friday 551 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: on the way after practice. We couldn't want It's like, okay, 552 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: he is a large human being. He's six to which 553 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: is you know, I'm taller and he is. But I 554 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: mean he is a load. Now that's the same thing. 555 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: He's not puffed up. It is just a broad human being. 556 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: And JP, I don't know if you remember back in 557 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: thirteen when the Jaguars went to play in London, Yes, 558 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: how much bigger and stronger they loved when they ran 559 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: out on the field. It's like the you fending NFC champions, 560 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: they had just gone to the Super Bowl, running out 561 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: of one tunnel and here comes the little college Jaguars 562 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: coming out of the other. Looked at it and that's 563 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: not everything. But I think to Bucky's point, it don 564 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: feels like it's going to be that kind of a team. Again, 565 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: that's not everything. That doesn't automatically win your games. Maybe 566 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: frames what they're gonna be. So here's another thing, right 567 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: those two thousand and thirteen point nine is that you 568 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: talked about they were coached by Jim Harbaugh, coming from college, 569 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: coming from Stanford. Thinking about the way that those Stanford 570 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: teams used to beat them up, like guys always leave 571 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: clues in terms of how they're going to build their team. 572 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: Jim Harbor built the forty nine is much like you 573 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: built Stanford. I would anticipate erber Meyer building his teams 574 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: like he built up Florida and Ohio. Stayed big, physical 575 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: with fast guys on the perimeter. Who is the GM 576 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: of those teams? I can't remember, oh Man, let's see that. 577 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm a denominator. Yeah. And by the way, the in 578 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: that game, it was forty two to ten was the 579 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: final score with forty Niners over the Jaguars, and they 580 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: scored on the first four possessions, all touchdowns. It was 581 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight nothing right out of the gate San Francisco 582 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: because they decided it. And welcome to Wimbley, Holy Molly. 583 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: That was a long day. Let's get to our final 584 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: nuggets today on the program, the Jaguars made a trade 585 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: today with the Eagles. They acquired cornerback Jameson Houston and 586 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: a sixth round pick from Philadelphia in exchange for cornerback 587 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: Josiah Scott. He was a draft pick last year for 588 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: the Jags in the fourth round, so some later round 589 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: corners here, Bucky, nothing really to write home about at 590 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: least on paper. Let's see what this does though. Yeah, 591 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: nothing to write home round. But I think what you're 592 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: seeing is, and we've seen this, the new regime is 593 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: moving away from some of the regimes players when it 594 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: came to draft, and so this happens, you can see 595 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: a lot of turnover, a lot of guys that were 596 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: holdovers uh in previous years, they will no longer be there, 597 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: and so this team would definitely have an Urban Meyer 598 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: Trent baky Field. We've talked about the heavyweights, we talked 599 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: about the speed component, we talked about more big school 600 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: guys that have played on bigger stages. I mean, look, 601 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: I kind of call it the Warren Buffet thing. We're 602 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: gonna know, it's gonna be a bunch of brand names. 603 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: There won't be any of those directional schools JP that 604 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: we don't know about, you know, like you go see 605 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: a lot of that, and so it'll be interesting to 606 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: see how it plays out. But these guys are gonna 607 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: continue to turn over the bottom part of the roster 608 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: because they want to up the competition and up the 609 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: overall athleticism and skill level of the players. They're bringing it. Well, 610 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: JP knows because they play Alabama in early September over 611 00:32:48,680 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: a year direction directional schools. But yeah, THEI A Scott 612 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: thing to me made sense on this level. If they 613 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: look at it and say, realistically, they're going in a 614 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: different direction, then you turn around and you get some 615 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: sort of value for him. Uh. They clearly had thought 616 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: that he was not going to be a guy they 617 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: moved forward with. So whatever value you can get, you 618 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: get a sixth round pick. It's a future. You've got 619 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: to wait a couple of years to use it. But 620 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: in in two thousand twenty three draft, you've got a 621 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: sixth round pick that you know, guess what, that's not 622 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: a seventh round pick, which are harder to trade. You've 623 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: got a little bit of value there that you can 624 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: work to use as a trade if you want to. 625 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: So it was fine. I don't know much about Jameson Houston. 626 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: He's a guy who was a collegiate free agent who 627 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: caught on the Eagles late last year. It feels to 628 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: me like they see something in him that might make sense. 629 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: So you figure, if you see something in a guy, 630 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: you bring him in and see what he's got. Let's see, 631 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: and the Jaguars have signed a couple of draft picks. 632 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: That's not really huge news anymore these days because there's 633 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: not a lot of negotiation to do, especially in the 634 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: later rounds. So uh wide receiver Gee on Campus sign 635 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: sixth rounder and fourth round defense of n Jordan's Smith 636 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: have both inked their contracts. And the next big thing 637 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: we haven't really talked about much is the Tebow stuff. Well, 638 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: it's kind of quiet and down the last few days. 639 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: If it's going to happen, though, you think it's got 640 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: to happen pretty soon because Phase three starts next week 641 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: and they're on the field at some point. If it's 642 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: gonna happen, it's gonna have to happen. What do you think, 643 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: Bucky Well, I mean, he's an inbitition in his life 644 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: all overports or it doesn't matter. Like when they said 645 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: they can bring a man to hell, come in and compete, 646 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean like this is one where uh, this is 647 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: all about trust and communication. Urban mar would trust that 648 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: Tim Tebows will come in and put up a credible 649 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: fight when it comes to carving your position for himself 650 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: at tied in h back or whatever it is where 651 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: they put them, and then we just gonna have to see, 652 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: I would anticipate in happening in the next couple of days. 653 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: Urban has talked about it happening soon. Look, man, they 654 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: just had to get through the firestorm. That's why they 655 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: put the chum into water kind of see what it 656 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: was gonna be like. Well, now when he signs, look 657 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: the uproars already over. Now we can move on to 658 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: see if you can get on about his business and 659 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: trying to make the football. They'll be more up forroar. 660 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: But it was about to say, you better be better 661 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: watched before you jump on the water. After the channel 662 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: might spill a fee some sharks swimming around there, but 663 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: it's fine. If you're gonna have an upfroar maze, the 664 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: time to do it, and I would expect it to 665 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: happen the next couple of days. That's not inside info, 666 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: that's just based on this. You know that O T 667 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: A s Are starting up soon. I can't imagine you 668 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: would wait untill after O T S because that's when 669 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: you want him in. So I got an idea for 670 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: the website, John. I believe in maybe the top right 671 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: you can put maybe you can put like a t 672 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: bow tracker, like just the amount of days and hours 673 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: before we get a Tebow siding, and then once we 674 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: get him, like just a daily update of what happens, 675 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: like maybe what he ate in the training table, little 676 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: things like that, if there are any pictures that he's 677 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: out there working out, maybe with a shirt off, all 678 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: those things that are really really popular when it comes 679 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: to clicks. Maybe photo essay, all of those things generate clicks. 680 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: So maybe maybe something t Bow, a statistical breakdown of 681 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: his practice, John every reception, every block, people, just to 682 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: tell people what's going on here. Bucky Is often does 683 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: this podcast while he's driving. Part part I'm part I'm 684 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: flintly engaged. I could be clear. I just I just 685 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: I just I just want us. I want us to 686 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: be the best, and I just I just consess all 687 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: of this new content that we can create around Tebow. 688 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: I think you should be on the ozone podcast. Very 689 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: quickly after he starts to talk about all the things 690 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: that he's learned along the way playing baseball and all that. 691 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: So it'd be great. I'll put it this way. Should 692 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: he sign my door is at I love my microphone, 693 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: So he's always well, I love it. We'll see what 694 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: happens this week if it happens at all, and that 695 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: will do it for the Huddle Up Podcast today. Remember 696 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: to subscribe to the official Jaguars podcast network, happital iTunes, Spotify, 697 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: wherever you download your podcast, and give us that five 698 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: star rating and a comment. As always, for John Osier 699 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks, I'm J. P. Shadrick. We'll catch you 700 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: next week on the Huddle Up Podcast