WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 145: Completely Different Feeling

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<v Speaker 1>This week on a Happy Half Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen five wins around this place recently and often,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a completely different feeling because Rice is

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<v Speaker 2>the same guy every day and now that he's continued

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<v Speaker 2>to be the same guy over and over through the

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<v Speaker 2>bad and the good, that creates a confidence in all

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<v Speaker 2>the cats around him. What's the cow?

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Happy Half Hour, presented by Southern Star,

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<v Speaker 1>an official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers. Here are your hosts,

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Gant and Cassidy Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, friends, and welcome to a new Year's edition of

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<v Speaker 2>the Happy Halflower was that that was a New Year's

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<v Speaker 2>Eve horn? A little?

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<v Speaker 3>That sounded like a deranged rooster.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It could be. We'll get into the

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<v Speaker 2>chicken discussion later. Do that all day long.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have three hours, But right now we've got

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<v Speaker 4>a happy football team to talk about on the Happy

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<v Speaker 4>Half Hour, which presented as always by our friends at

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<v Speaker 4>Southern Star, an official bourbon partner of the Carolina Panthers,

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<v Speaker 4>celebrate the Spirit of the Carolinas.

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<v Speaker 3>Spirit of the Carolinas feels pretty good right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we should raise a glass to the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four Carolina Panthers Salute in salute in honor of the

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<v Speaker 2>happiest five and twelve football team I've ever been around

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<v Speaker 2>in my entire life. It is kind of wild. And

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<v Speaker 2>this story is going to appear in the next edition

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<v Speaker 2>of the Ask the Old Guy Mailbag. We got a

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<v Speaker 2>big year in wrap up editions, very special edition coming

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<v Speaker 2>at soon on Panthers dot com. But I was out

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<v Speaker 2>buying socks the other day and this was before. This

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<v Speaker 2>was before Bryce turned into a stone cold killer in it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is before our quarterback turned into Steph Curry. The

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<v Speaker 2>guy behind the counter at the local independent merchant where

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<v Speaker 2>I like to buy my socks says he recognized me,

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<v Speaker 2>he knew me, and we started talking about the team

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<v Speaker 2>twenty he was like, he was like, I'm really digging

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here. This is good. And that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>Four and twelve on the heels of a forty eight

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen loss, and people are still pretty happy about this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's because in part of what we saw last

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday in Atlanta, because this team is pointed in a

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<v Speaker 2>direction that's kind of hard to arget.

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<v Speaker 3>So much to pick through what you just said, But

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<v Speaker 3>let me start with the most important. You buy your

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<v Speaker 3>socks from an independent retailer. Do not look at you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're such a great little small business guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to sport local independent business. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe one day they'll sponsor me and get the full

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<v Speaker 2>plug on the Happy Half Hour presented by our friends

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<v Speaker 2>at Southern Star, an official bourbon partner of the Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers Carolinas.

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<v Speaker 3>I get all of my socks from Santa. They show

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<v Speaker 3>up at my stocking that year and they get me

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<v Speaker 3>through the next year. I don't know where they come from.

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<v Speaker 2>This local independent merchant. I said. You know, when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid, I used to get annoyed at getting

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<v Speaker 2>socks for Christmas, And now all I wants good socks

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody's.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming forward to it. That's the only time I get

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<v Speaker 3>socks every year.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to be at any rate to your.

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<v Speaker 3>Point, the happiest five and twelve team, And we saw

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of if you said at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>the year, these are the things we need to see

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<v Speaker 3>from this team this year to feel like they are

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<v Speaker 3>moving in the right direction. I feel like they hit

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much all of them, at least on the offensive

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<v Speaker 3>side of the ball. And you saw Bryce take a

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<v Speaker 3>massive step forward. I mean, think about Bryce in week

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<v Speaker 3>two versus Bryce in Week eighteen. Those are two different people.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone made a comment the other day on a podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it would ever happen, but it's an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting little discussion. Is comeback player of the year. Should

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<v Speaker 3>it be a guy who was always good and then

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<v Speaker 3>got hurt and then returned to being good or a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that we saw come back in the span of

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<v Speaker 3>one season. And he said, if it's somebody that truly

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<v Speaker 3>came back from from you know, not being good and

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<v Speaker 3>then made himself good, he said, you could almost make

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<v Speaker 3>an argument that Bryce Young should when't comeback player of

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<v Speaker 3>the year. I don't think that ever happens, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's an interesting point. One of my internet friends,

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<v Speaker 2>klu Haywood out in Arizona, sent me a similar message

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<v Speaker 2>the other day. He said, can you win comeback player

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<v Speaker 2>of the year from coming back from what happened the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the season? And I was like, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>who says no? Because it's a different guy. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the guy we saw week one week two compared

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<v Speaker 2>to that guy we saw a Sunday, right I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know that it's the same person. There's just such

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible difference in the play on the field and

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<v Speaker 2>all the other stuff comes with it. I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>posing they hidden, that pose while the ball still in

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<v Speaker 2>the air, that was that was baller. And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy said after the game, he looks to me, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what ball do. And there were some other guys

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<v Speaker 2>who had some more colorful ways of saying the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they believe Bryce is that guy now. And nobody

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<v Speaker 2>was saying that in September, and that was only because

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce had played to a level to open the door

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<v Speaker 2>to all those questions. But what we've seen in these

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<v Speaker 2>last ten weeks, the last ten games his passer rating

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<v Speaker 2>combined is over one hundred. The first twenty games he

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<v Speaker 2>appeared in, which goes up to the Andy Dalton car wreck,

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<v Speaker 2>his passer rating was like seventy one. Just again, are

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<v Speaker 2>we playing the same sport? Did somebody explain the rules

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<v Speaker 2>of football to him in a way that he understood

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere between week six and seven. I don't know, But

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<v Speaker 2>all the credit in the world of Bryce for being

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<v Speaker 2>able to turn that ship around and really change the

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<v Speaker 2>entire conversation about him. Yea, you know, he went from

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<v Speaker 2>a guy being a cautionary tale for first round picks

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<v Speaker 2>to a guy who's like, well, yeah, they took him

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<v Speaker 2>first overall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You know what I wonder could be part of

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<v Speaker 3>it too, besides what Rod Wave might would have said

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<v Speaker 3>to him, is we talked so much this week, and

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<v Speaker 3>so many guys in the locker room talked this week

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<v Speaker 3>about how consistent Dave Canalis has been all year, and

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<v Speaker 3>JJ Jansen made the comment he said, when you have

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<v Speaker 3>a coach that comes in every day like that, it

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<v Speaker 3>calms us down as players to know he's not reactionary.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know somebody's gonna come back with the argument, well,

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<v Speaker 3>benching Bryce was reactionary. No, it wasn't. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>long process, I would imagine to kind of get to that,

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<v Speaker 3>to get to that decision to bench Bryce. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think when you have a guy that's always looking over

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<v Speaker 3>his shoulder, it can create a lot of ups and downs.

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<v Speaker 3>But when your coach is letting you know, day in

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<v Speaker 3>and day out, we're gonna keep doing the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you are benched, you're gonna keep doing the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing every day, it levels you out. Like JJ said,

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of calms you down. It levels your breathing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, Okay, no matter what, I'm gonna go out

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<v Speaker 3>here and i'm gonna do this drill. I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>this drill. I'm gonna do this drill. If I go

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<v Speaker 3>into a game and I have a bad drive, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>still gonna go out there there. You know, there's and

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<v Speaker 3>he's done that with other players too. You know, Cuba

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<v Speaker 3>has a fumble, Juba gets the ball again on the

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<v Speaker 3>next drive. Things like that. Like that, it's been Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna do the same thing again, and we're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to get emotional in a bad way just because

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<v Speaker 3>something happened. And that can calm you down to go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go out there the next drive and we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I think it helps too that that's just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of Bryce's asthetic anyway. Right, He's mister be the

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<v Speaker 2>same guy. Every day, He shows up early, he does

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<v Speaker 2>all the things. He does it with that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>blank expression on his face sometimes where he doesn't give

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<v Speaker 2>away what he may be thinking because he's so deep

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<v Speaker 2>in thought about what he's trying to do. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just kind of his deal. Anyway. We've seen a

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<v Speaker 2>little more of that outward personality type stuff, but that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff's always been there. You know, We've got clips from

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<v Speaker 2>last year that never saw the light of day of

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<v Speaker 2>postgame win celebrations. There wasn't but two of them, so

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<v Speaker 2>it ain't hard to find. But we've got clips where

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<v Speaker 2>you see those glimpses of Bryce even then, where you

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<v Speaker 2>can tell he's asserting himself and being that guy. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot harder last year when you're two and fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>and again five and twelve, not great, Bob, But we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen five. We've seen five wins around this place recently

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<v Speaker 2>and often, and this is a completely different feeling because

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce is the same guy every day and now that

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<v Speaker 2>he's continued to be the same guy over and over

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<v Speaker 2>through the bad and the good, that creates a confidence

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<v Speaker 2>in all the cats around him. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 2>still you know, we're going to talk a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>off season plans and need some priorities. This just in

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<v Speaker 2>most of the work's going to be done on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't break an NFL record for points allowed in

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<v Speaker 2>the season, you don't finish second all time in total

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<v Speaker 2>yards allowed. Thanks Saints for being you know, ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>them on that chart. You're not third all time in

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<v Speaker 2>rushing yards allowed without making big changes on that side

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball in terms of personnel. And they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>there's still work to be done on offense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's worth remembering. Bryce put up bl blah blah

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<v Speaker 2>forty four points in a game in which he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have Chewba Hubbard. He didn't have that one a receiver

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<v Speaker 2>they traded for him to be his lead dog all

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<v Speaker 2>off season. He did it in the second half without

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<v Speaker 2>the first round pick that they took for him to

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<v Speaker 2>be a more productive quarterback. He's out there doing it

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<v Speaker 2>with Tommy Trimble and David Moore and Adam Thielen and

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Cocher and Dan Chasenna. That's not normal, gang. What

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce has.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it remind you at all? And this I'm reaching

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<v Speaker 3>it this point, but whatever, let's play this game. Does

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<v Speaker 3>it remind you of all of what Cam did with

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<v Speaker 3>his cast of characters.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit? He had that ability to elevate and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Bryce did run for two touchdowns the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody's comparing him to Cam Newton don't do that to us.

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<v Speaker 2>But Bryce does have the ability to get out, move around,

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<v Speaker 2>make some plays with his feet. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>ever going to be a feature of his game the

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<v Speaker 2>way it was with Cam, but he's got that mobility

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<v Speaker 2>that makes things happen. But they both do have that

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<v Speaker 2>ability to elevate the cast around them. Yeah, and again,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing against any of those guys. They're out there busting

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<v Speaker 2>their tails. They're taking advantage of their opportunities, doing the

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<v Speaker 2>things coaches tell you to do. They just weren't highly

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<v Speaker 2>drafted all of them. So I think that's probably a

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<v Speaker 2>good sign because there will come a point when they'll

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<v Speaker 2>put more talent around Bryce. There will come a point

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<v Speaker 2>when Chuba Hubbard's back there behind him again. You know, again,

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing it without Chewba, You're doing it without your

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<v Speaker 2>star arding center from the beginning of the season. You're

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<v Speaker 2>doing it without Rob Hunt right, probably your your best

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<v Speaker 2>offensive lineman who is the second alternate to the Pro Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're doing it without all those targets that we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about. So, you know, credit to Bryce for doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was it was a heck of a game

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<v Speaker 2>that was I have always said over the course of

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<v Speaker 2>this season. Somebody asked me during an interview the other

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<v Speaker 2>day about when was the moment you knew he had

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<v Speaker 2>turned it around, and that Cardinals game when Kaiser White

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<v Speaker 2>drills him in the chest while he's delivering that ball

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<v Speaker 2>downfield to Tommy Tremble. That was always kind of that

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<v Speaker 2>past that. It was like, okay, yep, there that one

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<v Speaker 2>right there, that's when we knew. That passed to Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>Tremble in the back of the end zone where he

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<v Speaker 2>just so casually turns said, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Flick at the wrist, nailed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's like me sometimes when I tell a

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<v Speaker 2>funny joke, my wife laughs at me because she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking for more of an audience. You want more

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<v Speaker 2>people to laugh, And so I just walk around the

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<v Speaker 2>house Hans raised. You've been a great audience. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what was another one that was just like

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<v Speaker 3>wow and in the moment, okay, let me back up

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<v Speaker 3>the throw to Miles for the touchdown. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>huge credit to Miles for getting free on mat out

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<v Speaker 3>of two defenders and getting free so that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Bryce was able to kind of hit him. He didn't

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't in front of him, but it didn't need

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<v Speaker 3>to be because Miles had so much room. So it

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<v Speaker 3>was a perfect marriage between the two of them. Where

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<v Speaker 3>the press box sits in Atlanta, we were kind of

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<v Speaker 3>at an angle. I was watching Miles live and I

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<v Speaker 3>saw him get free, and it's like, oh, if Bryce

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<v Speaker 3>gets it there, he's got him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was watching Miles, went back and watched the

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<v Speaker 3>tape and the clip of all of our great videographers

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<v Speaker 3>at different parts of the field. That was a hard

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<v Speaker 3>throw that he made look so incredibly easy. He just

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<v Speaker 3>floated it. He floated a thirty three yard rainbow right

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<v Speaker 3>into a bucket, and that was just a really, really

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<v Speaker 3>impressive throw from that part of the field. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole game.

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<v Speaker 2>That throw is very similar to the one very first

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<v Speaker 2>play of the game in Tampa the other week where

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<v Speaker 2>he threw it to Adam Thield. We're in that press box.

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<v Speaker 2>It was coming straight to us and it was like, oh, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>he just put that in a bucket, didn't Yeah that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, he's had a number of those

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<v Speaker 2>those big time throws. That's and that's huge for this team.

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<v Speaker 3>He leads pff are, He's second in PFF's Big Time

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<v Speaker 3>Throws behind Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those tight window throws that big time quarterbacks make,

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<v Speaker 2>he's making and that just allows That was the other

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<v Speaker 2>theme on clean out Day the other day. There were

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<v Speaker 2>so many guys saying different versions of it. But you

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<v Speaker 2>can build now. I think the very biggest thing that's

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<v Speaker 2>happening for the Carolina Panthers this offseason is they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go head coach, gm quarterback the same three guys

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<v Speaker 2>in those three jobs two years in a row for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time since two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't even make any sense. And to not

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<v Speaker 2>even have to go through everything that's behind us. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>who's listening to this podcast is well aware of the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years of Panthers history. But to think

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<v Speaker 2>you're going back to Cam Newton, Ron Rivera, Marty Hernie

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<v Speaker 2>the last time they were able to build something year

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<v Speaker 2>after year, and that's the key you can build. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Dave said it the other day. We've now got all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff that we know Bryce is good at. We

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<v Speaker 2>start there rather than going into a year where you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what Bryce is good at and

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<v Speaker 2>work to that point we now start at the two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred level and you can add to it from there.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's going to be interesting to see what he

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<v Speaker 2>looks like next season because everything he showed us over

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<v Speaker 2>the last ten games is an evidence of, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they drafted him first overall.

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<v Speaker 3>The GM, head coach, quarterback thing. Back to that for

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<v Speaker 3>just a minute again, Our friend of the program, J. J.

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<v Speaker 3>Jenson made a great point on Monday, the People's Lungs,

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<v Speaker 3>the People's lungsnapper that not only has it been a

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<v Speaker 3>while since that's happened here, he said, you know, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>that's rare in the NFL to have all three of

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<v Speaker 3>those positions on the all together and on the same timeline.

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<v Speaker 3>The timeline part of it is really kind of I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>Chicago Bears can't get those three on the same page

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<v Speaker 3>to save their lives. And it's rare to have a GM,

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<v Speaker 3>a head coach, and a quarterback who, for all intentsive purposes,

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<v Speaker 3>this was a Mulligan rookie year and to have them

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<v Speaker 3>on the same timeline. So you're not it's not a

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<v Speaker 3>GM that's looking at one part of the roster and

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<v Speaker 3>a head coach that's been there for you know, six

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<v Speaker 3>or seven years, So it's like I've got to win

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<v Speaker 3>this year to keep my job, and then a rookie quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got all three in the same timeline, moving the

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<v Speaker 3>same direction and with the same vision. And as JJ said,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, you've got to take advantage of this window.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not to say it's a small window. Some people say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is our championship window and it's one year or two.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be a larger window, but it is a

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<v Speaker 3>window when you've got three of the most important positions

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<v Speaker 3>in the building on the same page, the same timeline,

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<v Speaker 3>moving in the same direction, and so it makes it exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt. There's also, I mean there's also the small

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<v Speaker 2>matter of with all the work that was done offensively

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<v Speaker 2>last year bringing in Robin Damien to playguard, you know,

0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.680
<v Speaker 2>there is a question about who's going to play center

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<v Speaker 2>next year. Austin Corbett, Brady Christians and kve May's all

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<v Speaker 2>some degree of free agents. So they've got to find

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to put in that spot. But you feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>because Ikya Kwani say, it couldn't be one of them, right,

0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they any of the group of them could

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<v Speaker 2>resign and be that guy. But you know you've got

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<v Speaker 2>Ikiakwanu on one side, Robin Damien at card Taylor Moten

0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.600
<v Speaker 2>looks like. I mean, I've got all the respect in

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<v Speaker 2>the world for Taylor Moton because I see what he

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<v Speaker 2>looks like on Wednesdays and Thursdays, and then I see

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<v Speaker 2>what he looks like on Sunday. That quick on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>that guy looks like he's my age. On Sunday, he

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<v Speaker 2>looks like one of the best right tackles in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what he is. I mean, Taylor played at

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<v Speaker 2>an exceedingly high level. I think I saw I was

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<v Speaker 2>looking at some PFF stuff the other day, and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe he might have been the highest graded Panthers player

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<v Speaker 2>on offense over the course of the season. He just

0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:24.040
<v Speaker 2>he's so consistent and so steady. And again, you're kind

0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.440
<v Speaker 2>of coming in new to this. You've covered the Carolina

0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Panthers for about three hundred and seventy five days now.

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<v Speaker 2>Having that kind of stability on the offensive line with

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback, that was one of the shames of the

0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.919
<v Speaker 2>Cam career. Cam had some elite talent in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>around him in Ryan Khalil, Trey Turner, some different guys

0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Norwell, but he never had the tackle talent that

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<v Speaker 2>is on this team right now. And so it was

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<v Speaker 2>always a question about who's it going to be, Is

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<v Speaker 2>at Byron Bell, Is at Matt Khalil who you know.

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<v Speaker 2>We could go down the list and it ain't a

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<v Speaker 2>great list. But their stability around Bryce in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows Tuba Hubbard's gonna be here for the next

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<v Speaker 2>four years. He knows Robin Damien are here for the

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<v Speaker 2>long term. Dan Morgan says the other day, Icky's a

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<v Speaker 2>guy you want to build around. You know, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>guy we want to keep around here long term. And

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<v Speaker 2>I take Dan at his word, but that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're starting at a different place offensively than any of

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<v Speaker 2>us could have imagined in Week one, and especially after

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<v Speaker 2>Week one, right, just the idea of what we thought

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<v Speaker 2>this offense might be, and then what it looked like

0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.800
<v Speaker 2>in New Orleans against the Saints. To be hanging forty

0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:38.760
<v Speaker 2>four on anybody, to be three and one in overtime

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<v Speaker 2>to that's.

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<v Speaker 3>An impressive statute.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I mean, these guys have done some work

0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:44.960
<v Speaker 2>on that side of the ball. Now it's time to

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<v Speaker 2>do some work on the other side.

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<v Speaker 3>And it cracks me up when I like scroll through

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<v Speaker 3>social media and I do the wrong thing and I

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<v Speaker 3>read the comments and you see the.

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<v Speaker 2>Comments. Never ever read the comments.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a it's just it's a compulsion and you

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<v Speaker 3>open them up and people are like, all Bryce needs

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<v Speaker 3>now is a good offensive line. It's like, my brother,

0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:08.640
<v Speaker 3>we're in week eighteen. Have you not watched a game yet? Yeah,

0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:09.960
<v Speaker 3>trust me, that ain't the problem.

0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Nope, that is.

0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.040
<v Speaker 3>And not to say there's problems, but you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Like, that's that's a positive. Ye, it's his

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line. And can they do that on defense this year?

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<v Speaker 3>They've got options.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the goal. And Dan flat out said it

0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.080
<v Speaker 2>when they said they were retaining Gero Everro as defensive coordinator.

0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.200
<v Speaker 2>He said, my job is to get him better players.

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<v Speaker 2>My job is to put better people around him. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the good news. You know what Carolina Panthers need in

0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.680
<v Speaker 2>this season. They needed him a big goal, three hundred

0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.879
<v Speaker 2>and forty pound defensive end who gets about one hundred

0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.080
<v Speaker 2>tackles a year and goes to Pro Bowls. So another

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so Derek Brown? Oh yeah, yeah, they get a

0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Derek Brown back next year wouldn't be.

0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.159
<v Speaker 3>Nice to have a Derek Brown just walk into the building.

0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do. So getting Derek back on the field

0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.640
<v Speaker 2>like having another top ten pick. It really is. Because

0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.040
<v Speaker 2>he talked the other day, you know, in the locker

0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.239
<v Speaker 2>room as everybody was cleaning out, and says, you know,

0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 2>he's feeling pretty good about being back on the field,

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<v Speaker 2>back on you know, running on grass and OTAs and

0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.160
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff, and getting him back out. I mean, again,

0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:14.359
<v Speaker 2>the run defense was not great this year, and it

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 2>was not great in large part because Derek went out

0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.840
<v Speaker 2>in Week one, didn't come back. Shaq Thompson, your signal

0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.080
<v Speaker 2>caller went out Week four and didn't come back, and

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<v Speaker 2>that just kind of created that spin cycle of trying

0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 2>to patch things on the fly, and it was not good.

0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.880
<v Speaker 2>So Dan's gonna spend his off season scouting looking at

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<v Speaker 2>defensive guys, looking at guys like he knows what looks like.

0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:35.639
<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to say, if you want somebody picking

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<v Speaker 3>out some dogs on defense, you would want Dan Morgan

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<v Speaker 3>to be the one doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a moment this this season when I was

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.000
<v Speaker 2>talking to Dan. My computer was sitting there in front

0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:47.720
<v Speaker 2>of me, and there was a picture on my screen

0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.600
<v Speaker 2>of Dan and Chris Jenkins and Brinson Buckner and Julius

0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Peppers and Mark Fields, and I said, hey, you know,

0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, Dan, you go get you four or five

0:20:56.200 --> 0:21:00.159
<v Speaker 2>of them this offseason. Everything's gonna be okay. And that's

0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.359
<v Speaker 2>his job right now to go find dudes to shore

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.440
<v Speaker 2>up that side of the ball. And you know again,

0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Dan has built up a little trust in that area.

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.280
<v Speaker 3>So where did Chris Jenkins sun land last year?

0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I do not know where Chris Jenkins Junior ended up.

0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.800
<v Speaker 2>He was the second round big or so. But yeah,

0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the thing. They if you could find

0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.399
<v Speaker 2>you another Chris Jenkins to park, I have.

0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:24.920
<v Speaker 3>To say you they got to go get Christian Kinson.

0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:26.159
<v Speaker 3>But it just made me think of it.

0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:28.320
<v Speaker 2>But to go up there and park a big body

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.359
<v Speaker 2>next to Ashan who had really quietly one of the

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.400
<v Speaker 2>best seasons of anybody around here this year. I think

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.360
<v Speaker 2>he was seven and a half sacks unless they took

0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 2>that one away. Played a bunch of snaps. All those

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 2>dudes played a bunch of snaps. Xavier Woods played over

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.680
<v Speaker 2>twelve hundred snaps of defense.

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.840
<v Speaker 3>One of only two defensive players to play one hundred

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:48.720
<v Speaker 3>percent of his team.

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Snaps, which you read about on Panther Stocks.

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:52.159
<v Speaker 3>That's exactly where I read about it.

0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 3>So ASHN Robinson I think played more third down snaps

0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:58.600
<v Speaker 3>this year than he has in his entire career.

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's uh, he had heck of a season and

0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.919
<v Speaker 2>again it's it's gonna be lost to the sands of time.

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 2>But you know, there are some things I think you

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 2>can build from on that defensive side of the ball.

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.760
<v Speaker 2>JC Horn going too the Pro Bowl. We heard about

0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:14.479
<v Speaker 2>that last week and he totally deserves that. He's that

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of player when he's available, and he was available

0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 2>this year played he was again, he was probably top

0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty five in the league and defensive snaps played despite

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.359
<v Speaker 2>missing two games at the end of the year. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's there's some stuff to work with, but there's more

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<v Speaker 2>work to be done. But you know what, it's off season.

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<v Speaker 2>It is we got we got a chance to bring

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<v Speaker 2>There's still a little work. We're still tying up some

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<v Speaker 2>of the loose ends, getting the last of the wrap

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<v Speaker 2>up stuff done in the next couple of days here

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<v Speaker 2>at Panthers dot Com. But there's gonna come a point,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this weekend when the blizzard rolls in when we

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<v Speaker 2>get a chance to just stop and breathe for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my question to you, faced with your first good

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<v Speaker 2>Charlotte blizzard. Would you rather or would you prefer to

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<v Speaker 2>be watching playoff football or be watching non football?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very interesting question. I actually won't be here

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend. I have a wedding. Maybe you do, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>I did actually get a text message about two minutes

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<v Speaker 3>ago that said inclement weather could affect my upcoming flight,

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see. I may be here. I actually prefer

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<v Speaker 3>this time of year to still go with the playoff

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<v Speaker 3>football during a blizzard. That's that's kind of you know.

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<v Speaker 3>You get enough stuff to make, like a chili and

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<v Speaker 3>some cookies or something, and settle in very quickly. I

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<v Speaker 3>will turn to my off season viewing schedule when there's

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<v Speaker 3>no more football and there's no more holidays, so there's

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<v Speaker 3>no like Hallmark Christmas movies or anything like that. I

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<v Speaker 3>turned to what I call like them, like the I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know the best way to say this, that we're

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna get in trouble, like a shoot them up

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<v Speaker 3>show or movie, like you know, I want something like

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<v Speaker 3>I want some sort of like spy thriller. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to watch some like a building blow up, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>want to like watch people run through the streets of Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 3>like way too fast and you know, not calls destruction

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<v Speaker 3>while they're going like you would think they would in

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<v Speaker 3>normal life. Yeah, I like to watch something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it just turns my mind off. And I'll do about

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<v Speaker 3>two months of that and then I'll flip and start

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<v Speaker 3>getting ready for the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I gotta do it my uh and and again

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<v Speaker 2>that could be coming this weekend with the winter blast

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five. I should have been a local news weather guy,

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<v Speaker 2>but Brad Pavich is so good at the job already.

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<v Speaker 2>Well look at the weather, but it ain't great. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's a perfect weekend to stay inside watch a little

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<v Speaker 2>playoff football if that's your deal. I got a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do my postseason tradition, which is to sit

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<v Speaker 2>on my couch and watch The Big Lebowski. That's always

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<v Speaker 2>That's always that moment when I sit on my couch,

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<v Speaker 2>dead eyed and just watch The Big Lebowski for the

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<v Speaker 2>for two hours, maybe with or without a white Russian

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<v Speaker 2>one never knows. But when that happens. It's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Darren's in off season mode now, yeah, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>you need a little bit of that. We all need

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to recharge because again, for the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>not that anybody cares about us, but for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time in five years around here, we're not going into

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<v Speaker 2>an off season where January is chewed up with coaching search,

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<v Speaker 2>GM search. What are you going to do at quarterback?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's going to allow us to come back fresher.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna allow it them players to come back fresher

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<v Speaker 2>and and every law. Yeah, yep, everything's everything's coming up

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<v Speaker 2>us at the moment. So we got that going. We

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<v Speaker 2>got a couple of Panthers Legends is finalists in Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame voting, which is coming up soon. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>good news all around. Potentially things are things are trending

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<v Speaker 2>in a positive direction at the moment. And isn't that

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<v Speaker 2>really all you want?

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<v Speaker 3>That's all you can a year, So it's all you

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<v Speaker 3>can with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Will we wish you all a merry blizzard. Don't forget

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<v Speaker 2>go to the store, get your bread, get your milk,

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<v Speaker 2>get your eggs, get your white Russians or egg nog

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever you please to get you through this long weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy it. Enjoy the first weekend of playoffs. We will

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<v Speaker 2>see you on the other side, on the happy half

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<v Speaker 2>hour