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Speaker 1: Ron an Adian, I'm gonna talk to Chrysler tech support,

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Speaker 1: and the answer I got was, well, there's no real

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Speaker 2: This particular system.

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Speaker 1: Really, I said, if you were in the dealership and

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Speaker 1: this was under warranty, what would happen? He says, likely

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Speaker 1: looking at the warranty claims we would be charged back

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Speaker 1: for a fuel tank and a fuel pump. The Car Doctor.

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Speaker 3: On each of those cars that I had, what it

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Speaker 3: ended up being was that the carbon cancer had some

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Speaker 3: sort of blockage in it.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what that canister costs new from Mercedes. Probably

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Speaker 1: a FORCEDI they're, you know, fifteen hundred bucks or more.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, the

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Speaker 4: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car

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Speaker 4: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 4: automotive repair. If you're a mechanic, thanks giving you a

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Speaker 4: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in.

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Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to

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Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five five six ninety

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Speaker 1: nine hundred and now pee.

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Speaker 4: Running.

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Speaker 1: It was a I was telling Tom, I'm tired, I'm cranky,

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Speaker 1: and I had to work on Volkswagens this week. So

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Speaker 1: this ought to be a really good show because I

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Speaker 1: got a lot to say, but a lot of you

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Speaker 1: want to know about the RAM pickup. Well, suffice you

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Speaker 1: to say the Ram pickup that you can't put gas

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Speaker 1: tank because it took chryslerol. We had to bring me

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Speaker 1: the wrong fuel tank. So we won't know the end

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Speaker 1: result of that until next week when we get the

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Speaker 1: right fuel tank, hopefully on Monday, and then we can

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Speaker 1: put the new fuel tank in the RAM and hopefully

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Speaker 1: it's fixed. I do know it's on the tank side

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Speaker 1: of the system because I disconnected the charcoal canister, meaning

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Speaker 1: I've now divided the system in half. If you a

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Speaker 1: caller conversation last week, you can't put fuel in the tank,

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Speaker 1: and I had replaced a fillerneck as per the bulletin

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Speaker 1: and the next step was disconnect the charcoal canister. That's

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Speaker 1: the vent side of the system, and you still can't

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Speaker 1: put fuel in it. So I know it's not the

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Speaker 1: canister or the esum, the vent velve that Chrysler uses

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Speaker 1: although it might be a bad esum next week because

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Speaker 1: the way they theyms go bad, the way the sun

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Speaker 1: rises to show you how bad it is. My local

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Speaker 1: Chrysler dealer's got four hundred of them on order, none

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Speaker 1: just it's insane how bad um Vent valves go bad.

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Speaker 1: But regardless, yeah, the tank shows up. I was on

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Speaker 1: a road test on Thursday, no Friday, Thursday, Friday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what day.

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Speaker 1: It was late in the day on Thursday, no Friday,

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Speaker 1: it was Friday, I'm sorry. And I walked in from

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Speaker 1: too big. But now, my guys at Chrysler are usually

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Speaker 1: really good. You know, I've got nothing bad. And I

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Speaker 1: realized mistakes happen. I'm not holding this against them. It's

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Speaker 1: just frustrating. So, you know, we finished up all the

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Speaker 1: other jobs this week, and I said to Danny at

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Speaker 1: three o'clock, I said, come on, let's let's let's do

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Speaker 1: the fuel tank in the ram. Let's get it out

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Speaker 1: of here. We can finish this truck. So we looked

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Speaker 1: we lower the tank, the tanks down because you always

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Speaker 1: That's a whole other conversation. And we've got it there

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Speaker 1: on the tank jack. We have it. I actually have

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Speaker 1: a fuel tank handler. And Kathy walks by because she's

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Speaker 1: isn't that gas tank too big? The one you're trying

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Speaker 1: We'll solve it because there's really nothing else left as

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Speaker 1: me that it probably has a bad rollover valve. In

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Speaker 1: see what Monday brings. Then there were the Volkswagens this week.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, we had to work on an eleven Jetta

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Speaker 1: and it's crazy, right. Supposedly a used Volkswagen catalytic converter

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Speaker 1: insurance repair. They're working with us. They're very good. And

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Speaker 1: we had to put two oxygen sensors in it. This

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Speaker 1: a four cylinder engine. And naturally, when they took the cat,

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Speaker 1: with it. And they, boy, these guys sliced through everything.

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Speaker 1: They sliced the cat, they sliced the wiring harness, They

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Speaker 1: over a catalytic converter. So I, you know, went back

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Speaker 1: we got the cat in did the oxygen sensors. You know,

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Speaker 1: I love when I get a manufacturer part the downstream

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Speaker 1: where the position number three oh two sensor the connector

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Speaker 1: Now. I don't know if you've ever done this before,

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Speaker 1: need a special disconnect tool. We have it. We've run

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Speaker 1: What's what's what's left over here? It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: But we did it, and it's together, and Monday we'll

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Speaker 1: run monitors on it. And as long as that's it,

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Speaker 1: that's it. It's done. But yeah, it was Volkswagon week,

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Speaker 1: other thing Volkswagon does. I've got to be a little

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Speaker 1: I want to get the show going. I had a

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Speaker 1: trace wiring. The fuse for the two heater circuit was blown.

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Speaker 1: I guess when they cut the harness. The harness was

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Speaker 1: battery box position number five. Pulled it out. Five AM fuse.

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Speaker 1: You it's blown. Put a fuse in. Good, We're done.

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Speaker 1: Now I have heater circuit control. But when you look

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Speaker 1: a ten AM fuse. Now I'm I'm pretty sure this

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Speaker 1: went through four wiring diagrams from three different manufacturers and sources,

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Speaker 1: and the sky was blue. It's got a five am

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Speaker 1: don't get it. How do you manufacture a vehicle at

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Speaker 1: this point in time in history and you can't get

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Speaker 1: accurate information. I blame the manufacturer for that. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's nonsense. They're key colors, right. They tell you that

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Speaker 1: the color of the wire for the power control going

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Speaker 1: to the heater circuit for the O two is supposed

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Speaker 1: in Germany the abbreviation for red is URT, but the

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Speaker 1: don't we have enough trouble trying to get information on cars.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's ludicrous. But yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: And that was my week. Rest of the time, we

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Speaker 1: on Friday. I'm here to rock and roll with you guys,

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Speaker 1: because I've got a bunch of emails from me. I've

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of questions. I want to talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit this hour. We'll talk a little bit about

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Speaker 1: we serviced a what the heck was it? A twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three Volkswagen Atlas, nice car, expensive oil change. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about that a little bit. But let

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Speaker 1: me pull over and take this pause. When the car

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Speaker 1: Doctor returns at eight five five five six zero nine

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Speaker 1: nine zero zero, I'm running any in the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, Little g.

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Speaker 6: Need advice on how to maintain that classic gto Ron

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Speaker 6: is the guy eight five five five six zero nine

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Speaker 1: Here's Ron. Hey, Let's get over and talk to Hunter

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Speaker 1: in New Jersey. Hunter, welcome to the car doctor, sir.

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Speaker 1: How can I help?

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Speaker 3: Hey? Ron, good to hear from you. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: taking my call.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: Just got buried. Congratulads decided to purchase the Oh thank

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Speaker 3: you anyway, we decided to purchase the wife a car

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Speaker 3: from my father. It's twenty eighteen Honda CRV two point four,

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Speaker 3: has one hundred thousand miles on the clock, and from

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Speaker 3: fifteen miles an hour on, it's making a sound. To me,

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Speaker 3: it kind of sounds like a wheelbaring. I'm having trouble

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Speaker 3: But it sounds like I may need to try that again.

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Speaker 1: Be what I mean, you know, here's where, and this

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Speaker 1: Well that or it looks like a doctor like a pipe.

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Speaker 1: So you know, that would be my last ditch attempt.

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Speaker 3: Right, real quick. I have seen a product online. Apparently

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Speaker 1: You know, the the chassis ear thing, it's a little cumbersome,

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Speaker 3: So understood there. There is one other thing that I

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Speaker 3: In doing my online research, I also found out that

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Speaker 3: I guess that bearing isn't replaceable.

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Speaker 1: Right, you have to change the whole shaft.

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Speaker 3: I guess when you have it off on the lift,

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Speaker 1: All right, that's that's that's a center support bearing because

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Speaker 1: And you can inquire when you go to AutoZone for

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Speaker 3: All Right, all right, all right, sounds good. Uh, you're

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Speaker 3: definitely giving me some good information. I'm going to start

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Speaker 3: if not, I guess I could always bring it into

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Speaker 3: a mechanic, bring it up on the lift, you know,

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Speaker 3: just trying to do everything myself. Yeah, now I get it,

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Speaker 3: part Scannon, And I'm sure a lot of people can

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Speaker 1: And listen, you and your wife can have adventures together.

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Speaker 1: You can twenty years from now, thirty years from now,

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Speaker 1: you can talk about the Hondia fixed that when you

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But all.

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Speaker 1: Right, kitto, good luck. If you need anything more, you

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Speaker 1: know where to find me. And congratulations again. A five five, five,

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Speaker 1: I'll go away.

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Speaker 6: Ron's into his own the Auto Zone studio, and he'll

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Speaker 6: be back right after this. Welcome back to the Auto

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Speaker 6: Zone Studio. Here's Ron, and we are back.

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Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's wander over to Tennessee and talk to Stu.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand Town in Country. Stu, Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir,

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Speaker 1: how can I help?

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Speaker 5: Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Ron, You're welcome break show.

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Speaker 5: I always listened. Thank you, I'm faithful you, sir. So

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Speaker 5: I got a problem. I've got a two thousand town

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Speaker 5: in Country three point eight Leader, all wheel drive, and

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Speaker 5: about three years ago I put in a new motor

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Speaker 5: All of a sudden, I drive down the road. I

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Speaker 5: and the engine just shuts down. Okay, no power steering,

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Speaker 5: five minutes, turn on, the ignition starts up, keep on going. Uh,

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Speaker 5: And it does this consistently. It's not a one time deal.

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Speaker 5: I thought perhaps it could have been a fuel pump,

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Speaker 5: you know, in the in the gas tank, or I'm

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Speaker 5: not sure what it is. I've had it to Chrysler.

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Speaker 5: They haven't been able to diagnose what's wrong with it.

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Speaker 5: I've had it to somebody else. They can't get it

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's my first question. Is it a repeatable offense?

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Speaker 1: Will it? Will it? Will it happen? Can you duplicate

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it happens. It happens. If I'm driving a car

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Speaker 1: Okay, So random stuff, right, Do you owann a scan tool? Still?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't, okay.

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Speaker 1: The reason I ask is, you know that generation Chrysler.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work on every one of them, but it

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Speaker 1: was just a good diagnostic tip when the car. When

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Speaker 1: you would go to start that vehicle and you had

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Speaker 1: a scan tool hooked up. I would always look at cranking.

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Speaker 1: I would always look at RPM, and certain models would

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Speaker 1: show me cranking rpm as I started it, And the

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Speaker 1: reason that was important to me was because when I

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Speaker 1: Is it only on turns that this happens?

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Speaker 5: No, it's going up a hill.

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Speaker 1: Okay? Is it? Does it ever happen on flat level road?

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Speaker 5: It happens there too, Okay, all right?

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Speaker 1: What I would want to see is if I have

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I understand that.

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Speaker 1: Because if the scan tool will display that if the

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Speaker 1: will display that to the scan tool, that means I

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Speaker 1: now have the ability. So right, we go to start

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Speaker 1: I got cranking rpm. Great. I drive down the road.

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Speaker 1: Five minutes the car dies. I go to my scan tool.

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Speaker 1: I turn the engine over. You know, I crank it.

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Speaker 1: Do I have cranking rpm? Yes?

434
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 5: Or no?

435
00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,719
Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, it's not a crank sensor. I just diagnose that.

436
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: All right, Maybe maybe it's ignition. I don't think this

437
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: is a fuel pump, because you're saying that it just

438
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: it drops dead, just like like somebody turned.

439
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 5: The key off, right, exactly right, and that's what happened.

440
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: You know, as silly as this sounds, this could be

441
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: a bad ignition switch, you know, So we need to

442
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: find out what what are we losing at the moment

443
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 1: of stall? All right? So I want you to go

444
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: and and you're a little mechanically inclined, still, you can

445
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: do some of this stuff. Sure, okay, get down to

446
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: your local AutoZone. I want you to buy a spark tester.

447
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: Do you own it? Do you own a spark tester?

448
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 5: No?

449
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't, Yes, a spark tester. If this was your lawnmower, right,

450
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: do you own a lawnmower?

451
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 5: Right?

452
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: All right, this was your lawnmower and it thoughed, how

453
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: would you diagnose it?

454
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 5: No, I'd be looking at fuel first, and then I'd

455
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 5: be looking that. But you do electrical stuff, right, You

456
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 5: don't yellnoid, yeah.

457
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: You go fuel spark mechanical right right? Right? I don't

458
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: think this is mechanical. This is either going to be

459
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: it's we're losing spark or we're losing fuel, all right,

460
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: and when I say losing fuel, this could be the

461
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: main engine computers shutting down the injectors for some reason.

462
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: This could be an automatic shut down relay problem. This

463
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: could be a problem in the wiring harness, something's causing

464
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: fuel or fuel pump drivers to turn off. Or it

465
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: could be spark. But I want to know, all right,

466
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: so you know, go into your local AutoZone, tell them

467
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: you're looking for a spark tester, you know, something simple.

468
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: There's different ones on the market, twenty bucks, thirty bucks.

469
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: One of them will be a spark plug wire on

470
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: one side that will attach to the top of the plug.

471
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: This spark plug wire that comes off it will plug

472
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: into the other end and it'll have an adjustable gap

473
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: on it. And I would I would tell you to

474
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: try using this tool to measure spark while the engine's running.

475
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: So you know what good looks like. Right, Let's learn

476
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: what good looks like. And you know, there'll be a

477
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: setting on that spark tester anywhere from twenty up to

478
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: sixty thousand volts. You know, see where you're is. You

479
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: should get a you should get a hot, snappy voltage

480
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 1: bluish in color, almost orange. Actually, yeah, I bet you.

481
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: This thing will produce forty thousand vaults. See you know

482
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: what it's capable of. This could be a bad ignitionion coil.

483
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 1: This is a three eight. The ignition coil sits on

484
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: top of the intake. Right, this could be a bad

485
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: admission coil. What do we have? All right? This could

486
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: be more than one problem too. So that will solve

487
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: the spark problem. All right. I want you to I

488
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: want you to get a mechanic stepiscope, probably another twenty

489
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: five thirty dollars item. All right, you can do a

490
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: lot of things. You can do a lot of things

491
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 1: with a stepiscope, all right. For one, with the engine running,

492
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: I believe on the driver's side of the engine compartment,

493
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: you'll have access to some of the fuel injectors. Right, listen,

494
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: listen to them click click click, click click, they're d

495
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: they're being driven click click click click click click. When

496
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't start, have somebody crank it over. Listen to

497
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: the injectors. Are the injectors being driven? Do they are they?

498
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: Are they trying to flow fuel? All right? And at

499
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: least at this point we'll know are we missing spark?

500
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: Are we missing? Are we missing injector?

501
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: All right.

502
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: The next thing if we've got if we've got spark

503
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: and we've got injector maybe we do have a bad

504
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: fuel pump. If you want to spend big bucks, all right,

505
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: big bucks, I'm talking maybe seventy eighty dollars. There's a

506
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: device out there called a pro pain Enrichment tool, all right.

507
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: It was actually designed for Chryslers as a matter of fact,

508
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: in the late seventies, mid up to mid eighties, for

509
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: Chrysler Lean burn systems. It's the way we did carburet

510
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: It's the way we did carburetor adjustments. We actually induced

511
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: pro pain into the air mixture to get more accurate

512
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: throttle response where we would set the mixture screws. They

513
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: still make it. OTC actually makes it. I think it's

514
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: part number seventy nine to twenty nine if I remember right.

515
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: But whatever, you know what Autozon don't know what I'm

516
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: talking about. You're looking for or just go online, go

517
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: look for the OTC Propane Enrichmond tool and get yourself

518
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: a can of propane. All right. You know what, if

519
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: you've got spark and the injectors are being driven, feed

520
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: a little propane down the throat of the motor, it

521
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: should run. If it runs, and you take the propane away,

522
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: what did you just prove?

523
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 5: Well, I think he proved a few things. But when

524
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 5: you take the propane away, you're taking away to fuel.

525
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: Right, Well, you're taking you're taking away the fuel. If

526
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: the car stalls, you know it's a fuel problem. Now

527
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: you notice I said it's a fuel problem, not a

528
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: fuel pump. Right, we could have we could have the

529
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: fuel pump relay or the shutdown relay. It's turned off,

530
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: all right, Because once I prove it's a fuel problem,

531
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: the next thing I'm gonna do is send you to

532
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: the back of the car when you call me back,

533
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about wire colors, and we'll make sure

534
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: is the fuel pump running?

535
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

536
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: If the fuel pump has voltage and it's not running,

537
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: or if the fuel pumps running but you have no fuel,

538
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: you got a fuel pump issue. But I don't think so.

539
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be spark or fuel driver.

540
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 5: So you know, this fuel pump failed on me about

541
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: eight years ago before, right, So that's what led me

542
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 5: to believe I had a fuel pump problem, because if

543
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: I waited three to five minutes, this engine started up

544
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 5: and we were moving, and let me let me ask.

545
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. When you get in

546
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: this car, because you know this car, right, you've had

547
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: this car a long time. When you get in this car,

548
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: close all the doors and turn the key to the

549
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: on position, but not crank it. Can you hear the

550
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: fuel pump prime normally?

551
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: Uh?

552
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 5: No, you know the old one. I could, and that's

553
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 5: when I knew it was going bad. Right, Okay, I

554
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: don't hear this one. I could be a little deafer

555
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 5: that than I was about eight years.

556
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that too. I didn't want to say that.

557
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to assault you, but see if you

558
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: can tune in. Do you hear the pump running? Right?

559
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: Because that's my first question when it's when it's when

560
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: it's not running. For that matter, carry a rubber mallet

561
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: with you, crowl under the car. Have somebody crank and

562
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: give the fuel tank a light tap. Not don't crush it,

563
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: just give it a wake up call?

564
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: All right?

565
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: Can you can you? Can you jump the pump the

566
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: way we would try and get a starter to engage

567
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: with a starter Riverfield. It's just an electric motive, so

568
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: all right, kiddo. All right, you got some homework.

569
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 5: I thank you very much.

570
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You call me back. We'll get it.

571
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: We'll get it. No worries. I'm running Andy in the car. Doctor.

572
00:28:44,400 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Don't go away, look back

573
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: ronning in the card docketor let's go to Jerry and

574
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: Virginia return. Call Jerry. How'd you make out ronin Inian

575
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: at your servicer?

576
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: Nothing? Ron nothing. I just channeckted the battery, like you said.

577
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 5: I jumped the cables only with a small prefab wire.

578
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: Set up from Walmart to in a pack, you know, right.

579
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: Uh waited twenty minutes, nothing nothing, no volume.

580
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Okay. So so my next step would be and unfortunately

581
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: it involves a scantl because yeah, you can go look

582
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: at you can go look at fuses, which is a

583
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: little tedious. I'd want to take a scan tool and

584
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: look to see and I don't mean OBD two. Here's

585
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: a case where I want to go in year make model.

586
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: I want to be able to type in on seven

587
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: jeep commander, and I want to look at the radio.

588
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: The radio is a computer, it's a module, it's it's

589
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: it's it's no different than you know, how many computer

590
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: do you have in your house, Jerry or at your

591
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: place of business?

592
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, a couple three four right.

593
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: Three four? So it's that radio is that radio is

594
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: no different than the computer that's in your home office,

595
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: and it's it's just it's is it on the network?

596
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: Is it awake? Is it is it talking?

597
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: Uh?

598
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, if it is and it's not playing, then

599
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: it's probably a radio or the amplifier and we'd have

600
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: to verify power and ground. But it's it sure is

601
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: strange since the battery replacement that it's not working.

602
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: Yes.

603
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 5: Now, I work for an auto parts store. It's one

604
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 5: of the eight stores. I won't say which one it is.

605
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: I'm hoping that we have a stand school that we

606
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: use for customers who I can put my year making

607
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: model in there. But what do they normally go for?

608
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: If I gotta buy one.

609
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: Oh five six hundred bucks, you're not gonna do it.

610
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna take it to a shop and have them

611
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: do it, you know, Okay, Yeah, if this is the

612
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: only time you're gonna do it, because you're also going

613
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: to look to see if the module is online. I'm

614
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: looking to see specifically, doesn't have a fault code. I'm

615
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: looking to see if it has a US in Utah

616
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: zero one eighty six, which is a communication which is

617
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: a communication fault on the on the can Be bus,

618
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: which I'm thinking this might turn up if the radio

619
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: is there, just can't communicate. So you know, next steps,

620
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: I got you. It's just all next steps, Jerry, until

621
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: you get to the end. All right, kiddo, I hear you.

622
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: So you have all your help. You're very welcome, sir.

623
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: You let me know and we'll figure it out. Call

624
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: me back next week, let me know what the end

625
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: result is.

626
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: All right.

627
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: Thanks again, You're very welcome. Happy Thanksgiving. I'm running any

628
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: in the card doctor. Thank you, I'm running ad in

629
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: the guard doctor. We are back right after this.

630
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: Don't go away.

631
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: Welcome back running in the card doctor. As we wind

632
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: down this hour. Thanks for sticking around and happy to

633
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: talk to everybody today and be with you.

634
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: You know.

635
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: Oil changes are on my mind this week too. Among

636
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: other things, we had a couple of interesting oil changes.

637
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: One was a twenty seventeen Keia Van minivan that the

638
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: customer complaint was it died on the road, loss of power, stuttering, shaking,

639
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: sounded like a misfire. Check engine light came on and

640
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: they towed it in and I went through diagnosis and

641
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: it was setting camshaft actuator, circuit performance faults, variable valve

642
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: timing codes for those that don't know. So they do

643
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: different things with camshafts today. Think of a bicycle. We'll

644
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: go back to the bicycle sprocket, right, big sprocket, little sprocket.

645
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: If they put a white mark at the top of

646
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: each sprocket so that they were atop that center and

647
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: they were one was half the size of the other,

648
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: the small sprocket would go around twice in relation to

649
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Speaker 1: the big Sprocket. It's all timing. Well, if they could

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Speaker 1: advance the big sprat and allow the bicycle to get

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00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: more power, they would, Well, they'd do that with an engine.

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Speaker 1: They actually have a hydraulic control device that pushes that

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Speaker 1: sprocket forwards and backwards to advance and retard timing events.

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Speaker 1: And they do this with oil. Well, it turns out

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Speaker 1: this was setting camshaft actuate her faults because the engine

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00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: only had a quart of oil in it. It's a

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Speaker 1: six court system and she recently had an oil change

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Speaker 1: done at a dealer, not picking on the dealer, just

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Speaker 1: this one either missed the mark or they didn't put

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Speaker 1: enough oil in it, or in under what I believe

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Speaker 1: was to be about fifteen hundred miles, this thing went

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Speaker 1: through five quarts of oil, which I don't think was

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Speaker 1: the case. I'm not quite sure, but regardless, oil changes

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Speaker 1: are important and who's doing them is just as important.

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Speaker 1: And then we had a twenty twenty three Volkswagon ant

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Speaker 1: list this week and other Volkswagon Highline car A nice car. Actually,

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Speaker 1: the Volkswagon outlyst and it takes zero W thirty oil.

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00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: Not a common viscosity, yet it's a little tough to find.

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Speaker 1: I went out to mobile dot com. I love Mobile

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Speaker 1: dot com. They've got a great website. There's an awful

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Speaker 1: lot of information here. They talk about LSPI Low Speed

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Speaker 1: pre Ignition, which is a whole nother You could I

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Speaker 1: could do a show on low Speed pre Ignition, the

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Speaker 1: things you don't think oil has to deal with. But

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Speaker 1: Mobile mobile one makes the right oil for that Volkswagon,

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Speaker 1: one of the few at this point esp zero W

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Speaker 1: thirty nice stuff. You know, did that oil change a

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Speaker 1: six court system? And you know it worked well and

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Speaker 1: it does meet and that's the that's the one thing

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00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: that's really critical. And I always feel comfortable with mobile

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Speaker 1: product because it always meets manufacturers specifications. In this case,

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Speaker 1: it had to meet VW five oh four. It also

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Speaker 1: meets Mercedes. It also meets Portie. So Mobile Mobile one.

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Speaker 1: They've got it going on, you know, and different kind

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Speaker 1: of oil change, right, No more thirty dollars oil changes.

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Speaker 1: They're they're getting expensive, but they're they're taking care of

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Speaker 1: the oil's taking care of very high tech vehicles. You'll

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00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: find more information at mobile dot com. I'm rodding any

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Speaker 1: in the car doctor. I'm saying that kind of wraps

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Speaker 1: it up this hour till the next time. Good mechanics

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Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're price us. See ya sh