Speaker 1: Uh, they expected to be in this position where they
Speaker 1: had to develop them. But I don't know if they
Speaker 1: expected him to be maybe at this stage of things
Speaker 1: in May.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, another starting pitching injury.
Speaker 3: For the last Let's ask Fabian shop Pete Roseby in
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. Let's ask him boom. But then
Speaker 3: we'll go to the Dodgers.
Speaker 4: Okay, Bobby and our diet joining us, by the way,
Speaker 4: covers the Dodgers for the athletic But yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 4: Bobby on what do you think?
Speaker 1: I think? I agree with you, Guys's that's a kind
Speaker 1: of a bad precedent, just sort of what There's a
Speaker 1: lot of unintended consequences that have probably come from this decision,
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll see how they play out of
Speaker 1: the next couple of decades.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. See do you think he gets voted in?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: It depends. I think it depends on who's on the committee.
Speaker 1: Everything like that. I think it always depends on who's
Speaker 1: on the committee when it comes to these kind of votes.
Speaker 1: Posts the writer's vote, So that is true.
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Are there people that were former teammates played against them?
Speaker 2: Stuff like that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Wasn't the famous one Harold Baines.
Speaker 3: Car Old Baines got in because Jerry Ryanser and Tony
Speaker 3: Larissa run at like a five person committee and they
Speaker 3: were two of the votes or whatever it was, and
Speaker 3: they kind of were like, we're not leaving till Harold
Speaker 3: gets in.
Speaker 6: That was a story. I don't know if it's true.
Speaker 3: I love Harold Hall of Famer is he is a
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, so he must be one. But that
Speaker 3: is a famous story that they basically locked everybody in
Speaker 3: the rooms like we're not leaving to you vote yes
Speaker 3: on Harold.
Speaker 2: And that's fine, but then there are a lot of
Speaker 2: other players that would like to be reconsidered us.
Speaker 4: Yes, all right, let's dive into the Dodgers, Fabian, What
Speaker 4: is going on with the starting rotation now that Roki
Speaker 4: Sazaki hits the shelf with a shoulder impingement.
Speaker 2: Are they running out of starters in May?
Speaker 1: It certainly kind of feels like it. I think they've
Speaker 1: They've already had to run a couple of bullpen games.
Speaker 1: They have another one schedule for Thursday. Some of this
Speaker 1: obviously was kind of by design. When you kind of
Speaker 1: mapped out how this rotation would look, you knew that
Speaker 1: there's be a lot of flux. You knew that guys
Speaker 1: were gonna go down, guys werena come off the injured list,
Speaker 1: everything like that. But like, yeah, obviously to have this
Speaker 1: big e of pitching injuries this quickly, I don't think
Speaker 1: Angwin has paid that. I don't think Angwins paid having
Speaker 1: Tyle Glass Now, am Blake Snell, and Roki Sasaki all down.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And obviously they're gonna get some help soon. Clinton Kershaw's
Speaker 1: gonna come off the i L on Saturday. But this
Speaker 1: is not a position the Dodgers were hoping to be
Speaker 1: in in the second week in May.
Speaker 7: Are we supposed to one hundred percent believe that every
Speaker 7: il stint for Dodgers pitchers is the same il stint
Speaker 7: that it is for other teams? I know, it's kind
Speaker 7: of turned into that, like glass Now's actually, you know,
Speaker 7: his is extended more kind of happened last year where
Speaker 7: he stayed on the aisle longer. Smells has extended longer.
Speaker 7: But we think we know Sasaki is not going to
Speaker 7: throw one hundred and fifty innings this year. So do
Speaker 7: we just one hundred percent believe that all of these
Speaker 7: injuries are like, yes, one hundred percent, Like this is
Speaker 7: definitely iel worthy.
Speaker 1: I think the Dodgers are more willing to air on
Speaker 1: the side of caution with guys than maybe most teams are,
Speaker 1: just because of the position that they're in, Like they
Speaker 1: can afford to play the long game with a lot
Speaker 1: these guys. I know that Dave Roberts kind of used
Speaker 1: that phrase a lot when especially when it comes to
Speaker 1: Blake Snell, because they understand they didn't sign him to
Speaker 1: get him through July or through August. They signed him
Speaker 1: for October. Same thing with Glass. Now they're willing to
Speaker 1: sort of kick the can. If you're feeling anything, you're
Speaker 1: gonna go on the il and probably for an extent
Speaker 1: of time, just to make sure that everything gets rued
Speaker 1: out and sort of to Sasaki, Yeah, absolutely, I think
Speaker 1: this was honestly comes probably at a good time also,
Speaker 1: just for them to sort of give him a breather,
Speaker 1: give him a reset, give him a chance to work
Speaker 1: with their development staff and rework the mechanics, rework the delivery,
Speaker 1: get him into a place where he can be effective
Speaker 1: on a big league mound. Because we were seeing obviously
Speaker 1: the loss, he was trending down and I'm sure the
Speaker 1: shoulder had something to do with that, but also just
Speaker 1: the rest of the arsenal was not in a good
Speaker 1: place and he was getting hit hard as a result.
Speaker 1: So a chance to get up, breather, a chance to
Speaker 1: maybe have a minor league extent without being a minor
Speaker 1: league stint or essentially the extendant Arizona work with your guys,
Speaker 1: like I think, it's a chance for a reset in
Speaker 1: a sense for him and also for certain guys, it's
Speaker 1: a chance to like get have a breather, managed things,
Speaker 1: load manage your way kind of through a season, which
Speaker 1: the Dodgers are in the unit position to be able
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 6: Fobbian.
Speaker 3: Didn't they know this though going in with Rokie. Wasn't
Speaker 3: this a thing with him that they knew? So why
Speaker 3: why now? Well, I mean, I know he's he's hurt,
Speaker 3: but why now? And by the way, the Dodgers are
Speaker 3: leading the league in shoulders this year. Before it was elbows,
Speaker 3: now it's shoulders. So you said that he gets to
Speaker 3: go to his development, Well, I don't know. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of arm injuries, and the Dodgers even came out
Speaker 3: of the spring and said, hey, we need to look
Speaker 3: at it.
Speaker 6: But for Rokie.
Speaker 3: I know his velo is down, his velo was down
Speaker 3: last year. How worried how worried then that he might
Speaker 3: not bounce back from this.
Speaker 1: I think they should be at least somewhat worried, especially
Speaker 1: because this was a shoulder issue he was dealing with
Speaker 1: last year too, So like, is this a chronic thing?
Speaker 1: Is this the thing that could be corrected? Is this
Speaker 1: something that the way he throws it's going to lead
Speaker 1: him to shoulder issues and the veloss he's not going
Speaker 1: to get back to where it is. Yeah, there's absolutely
Speaker 1: some concern, which I think especially when you're looking at
Speaker 1: the velocity, especially because that fastball relies so much more
Speaker 1: on the velosity than maybe your average fastball, just because
Speaker 1: of the characteristics and everything like that. So yeah, they
Speaker 1: have to get the shoulder right first. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think they didn't. They expected to be in
Speaker 1: a position where they had to develop him, But I
Speaker 1: don't know if they expected him to be maybe at
Speaker 1: this stage of things in May. I think they were
Speaker 1: hoping to maybe work with them on the third pitch,
Speaker 1: that the velocity would be maybe ninety eight to one
Speaker 1: hundred as opposed to ninety four to ninety six, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're looking at different issues, Like
Speaker 1: I don't think they expected the command to be as
Speaker 1: poor as it has been to start this season, So
Speaker 1: obviously there's a huge adjustment coming to major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: They kind of learned that with the Kushenobiyam motor last year.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Modor was able to make those adjustments that
Speaker 1: much more quickly because he had an established track record
Speaker 1: in Japan. He was twenty five years old, a three
Speaker 1: time Sawumora Award winner Rooki Saki didn't pitch a whole
Speaker 1: lot in Japan, so there's a lot of development on
Speaker 1: that end of the things that they hadn't do before
Speaker 1: even adjusting to Major League Baseball. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: there's more of a learning curve than maybe the Dodgers
Speaker 1: originally anticipated. But they have to sort of use this
Speaker 1: time to kind of first get them healthy and then
Speaker 1: figure out exactly what they can get done this season
Speaker 1: and what Hasket pushed forward to the future.
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Speaker 7: Is there a chance they optioned him to triple A
Speaker 7: because after he comes back.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like it. It sounds like they've been
Speaker 1: pretty said fast, like it's going to be in the
Speaker 1: big leagues. But I do wonder if there's a part
Speaker 1: of them that sort of maybe kicks the can down
Speaker 1: the road when it comes to the recovery. The il
Speaker 1: stint given some time maybe in Arizona, given some time
Speaker 1: in lower pressure environments to kind of work through through
Speaker 1: some things, and that gives them some time maybe to
Speaker 1: see who's healthy, who's in the rotation. How does Clayton
Speaker 1: Kurshaut look, How does emmitts she and look once he
Speaker 1: gets back on the rotation. How does Blake Snell or
Speaker 1: Tyler Glass now look once they hopefully get back in
Speaker 1: the rotation. So give them a chance to see who's
Speaker 1: pitching well and when, and then they can sort of
Speaker 1: make that determination. But I mean, Dave Roberts said it
Speaker 1: last weekend when he was struggling. He said last night
Speaker 1: when he went on the Ale, he doesn't anticipate rokiy
Speaker 1: Saki going into minor leagues at any point in terms
Speaker 1: of being officially options. I wonder if there's a way
Speaker 1: that maybe the finagle it when it comes to being
Speaker 1: on the isle, going through a rehab as simon an
Speaker 1: extended one. But yeah, it doesn't sound like he's officially
Speaker 1: gonna be optioned at any point.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's run through some of these names, by the way,
Speaker 3: Gavin Stone, Bruser, ground Rall, Michael Grove, Edgardo Enriquez, Blake
Speaker 3: Trin and Emma Chien, Tommy Edmund, Kyle, Hurt, River, Ryant,
Speaker 3: the Oscar Hernandez, Tyler, Glassnell, Blake Snell, Michael Kopek, Jake Giloff,
Speaker 3: Clayton Kershaw, Roki Sazaki. That's the list of people on
Speaker 3: the isle currently for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Most teams
Speaker 3: would fold under this. The Dodgers were playing better. It's
Speaker 3: amazing to me. So let's get a little good news.
Speaker 3: Clayton Kershaw is coming back this weekend. What can we
Speaker 3: expect from old Kersh? I know he was throwing like
Speaker 3: a eighty seven miles an hour, which velossity never was
Speaker 3: his thing. I mean he always it was mid nineties,
Speaker 3: but it was all about a slider and a curveball.
Speaker 3: What can the Dodgers expect when kursh comes back.
Speaker 1: I think they're expecting him to pitch like Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing. Like he looked pretty good
Speaker 1: coming off shoulder surgery last year until Obviously that last
Speaker 1: outing where the toe really kind of gave way, that's
Speaker 1: what kind of take the numbers, But he looked like
Speaker 1: vintage Clayton Kershaw. Obviously the velosity is not going to
Speaker 1: be what it has been, but like the command is
Speaker 1: really good. He's able to pitch that slider off the
Speaker 1: fastball effectively, and the shoulder feels good. He's sort of
Speaker 1: said that throughout this process, like the arm has felt
Speaker 1: so good. That's why he wanted was willing to get
Speaker 1: the knee and the toe surgeries to keep pitching, just
Speaker 1: because of how good the arm felt. And as long
Speaker 1: as that's the case, Like he's the guy who, I
Speaker 1: know it's kind of a cliche to say, but like
Speaker 1: he just knows how to pitch. I've seen the guy
Speaker 1: with half a shoulder sort of go through an outing
Speaker 1: and be able to sort of pitch effectively and go
Speaker 1: deep in the game. So he's the guy who is
Speaker 1: a stabilizer as long as he's out there on the mound.
Speaker 1: Obviously being out there on the mountain has been more
Speaker 1: of the issue the last few years, but I think
Speaker 1: as long as he's able to be in there, like
Speaker 1: he's gonna be kind of an important piece for the
Speaker 1: Dodgers to just get through the summer and we'll see
Speaker 1: sort of where things stand when guys get healthy. But
Speaker 1: he's a guy who's gonna help you get through a
Speaker 1: season at the rey least and be you know exactly
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get. And obviously he has some milestones
Speaker 1: in front of him. It's gonna be an interesting few
Speaker 1: stretch of starts for him. Billy, I think I'm expecting
Speaker 1: me to pitch pretty well.
Speaker 6: Actually, I mean, Kershaw has never not pitched well.
Speaker 7: Like you just looked down his page and it's just
Speaker 7: two and a half ears for life. But is there
Speaker 7: a chance he stays on a five day rotation because
Speaker 7: of the fact that before it was you had a
Speaker 7: Friday night starter, then you had a Saturday night starter,
Speaker 7: and guys were kind of on like a six or
Speaker 7: seven day rotation. Does Kershaw want to come back or
Speaker 7: does Dave robertson the Dodgers want to put him on
Speaker 7: his traditional five day rotation.
Speaker 1: I think a little bit of maybe pitching on a
Speaker 1: five day rotation, pitching on six day rotation, everything like that. Like,
Speaker 1: obviously this first start is going to be on five
Speaker 1: days worth of rest. He's kind of cleon Krishause kind
Speaker 1: of acquiesced a little bit to that in a little
Speaker 1: bit in recent years. There was a stretch obviously when
Speaker 1: the shoulder was going that he would pitch once a week.
Speaker 1: So like, obviously they're in a position where they kind
Speaker 1: of have to make do with the starters that they have.
Speaker 1: There's not gonna be as many off days as there
Speaker 1: were in April, as we just saw that ten game
Speaker 1: road trip where they kind of had to adjust guys
Speaker 1: pitching schedules, including Yoshinovayamodo and Rokie Susaki. Young Motor is
Speaker 1: probably gonna be pitching more frequently on five days rest
Speaker 1: than maybe he was beginning of the season when he's
Speaker 1: usually on six days of rest. That's something he did
Speaker 1: a lot last year. So I think there's gonna be
Speaker 1: transitioned more to I don't know if it's a traditional
Speaker 1: every five day turn, but like at least something that
Speaker 1: helps you get through this part of the season. And
Speaker 1: obviously we'll see how things look probably after they all
Speaker 1: start break once Shoeo Tani's back, because that's a guy
Speaker 1: who maybe opens the door for you to have a
Speaker 1: six man rotation. Just because of what he does in
Speaker 1: terms of your numbers and how many pitchers you're allowed
Speaker 1: to have because of the two way player role. So
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw, I think at least the start would probably
Speaker 1: be bouncing between maybe a five day turn or a
Speaker 1: six day turn.
Speaker 3: Okay, how important is you own moto now? I mean,
Speaker 3: he's like the most important player on this team all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, right, because he's the one guy that
Speaker 3: goes out every fifth day and just shoves Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been their best pitcher this season, I think,
Speaker 1: one of the best pitchers in the National League, and
Speaker 1: he's incredibly important. We've seen him be basically the kind
Speaker 1: of guy he was in Japan, the kind of guy
Speaker 1: who got the richest contract ever for a pitcher, and
Speaker 1: this is exactly what the Dodgers are kind of hoping
Speaker 1: he'd be. Obviously, coming off the shoulder last year, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there was some trepidation, like, all right, how is
Speaker 1: this gonna look, how is he gonna hold up? And
Speaker 1: everything's all indications have been He's held up great, he's
Speaker 1: looked great, he's looked even better. And it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: like a thing where like the velocities up or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But he's just found a way to make
Speaker 1: all of his pictures that much sharper. The way he's
Speaker 1: attacking hitters, who's a lot more confidence. Uh, the command
Speaker 1: has been really sharp. But he has been incredible for them,
Speaker 1: and he is the most important picture on the staff
Speaker 1: right now. He is the staff ace that they kind
Speaker 1: of paid him to be.
Speaker 3: Makes sense, makes sense. Before we let you go by
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, go devils. I went to a su I
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Speaker 3: I saw that behind you. This is the Pat Tillman. Oh,
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the digital camo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, crats right, digital camera?
Speaker 6: Did you camo? Yeah? Did you cam? Slick looking helmet, though,
Speaker 6: good looking helmet.
Speaker 7: One day I'll tell my story about Pat Tillman connection
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Speaker 4: on MLB's ten biggest surprises. Some include the Tigers first
Speaker 4: place in the division and in the American League, the
Speaker 4: Mets rotation, the Mariners rejuvenated offense, Jacob Wilson, who looks
Speaker 4: one of those old school contact extraordinaries. I want to
Speaker 4: get into a few others too. Do you know who
Speaker 4: leads MLB in strikeouts right now?
Speaker 6: Kenzie Gore?
Speaker 4: Yeah, twelve point eight two strikeouts per nine innings, up
Speaker 4: from nine point seventy nine per nine last season.
Speaker 2: That's a big jump.
Speaker 4: And actually this isn't in the article, but this has
Speaker 4: been pointed out by a few FT fans. They said,
Speaker 4: look at Paul Schen's strikeout numbers. It's super interesting.
Speaker 2: They are way down, way down. But he is giving
Speaker 2: the team length.
Speaker 4: So I think he's so good that he is one
Speaker 4: of those guys that can say I can sacrifice some
Speaker 4: swing and miss and get some.
Speaker 2: Quick outs old school style. Obviously the league's getting to
Speaker 2: it a little bit more.
Speaker 6: He's fine.
Speaker 3: His numbers are still good. He just can't score any
Speaker 3: damn runs for him. But yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 3: I think Skien strikeouts are way down. But plus people
Speaker 3: have seen him now. He's stilling a lot more to contact,
Speaker 3: try to go deeper into games, which is smart.
Speaker 6: That's how guys used to do it.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get contact on the splinker. Sometimes it's just
Speaker 4: gonna be crap.
Speaker 6: Content he can he can still strike guys out, if
Speaker 6: I agree, he can learning.
Speaker 7: He's learning to pitch differently with runners in scoring position.
Speaker 7: Watch a game, watch his stuff. There's a different You're
Speaker 7: seeing a different pitcher when there's dudes in scoring position.
Speaker 7: That's a maturation that like usually happens in year three
Speaker 7: or four, not in the year one and a half.
Speaker 4: One part that I think we're all gonna disagree on
Speaker 4: is topic nine on this article, Minor league stadiums in
Speaker 4: MLB working out.
Speaker 6: For the most part, that's guys that have been to
Speaker 6: especially Sacramento.
Speaker 2: And when you say guys, I mean guys and girls
Speaker 2: fans too.
Speaker 3: But I'm talking like the people we talked to on
Speaker 3: this show. When you ask about Sacramento, they're like, it's suitable.
Speaker 3: Then we have on the ideas and it's good for
Speaker 3: three days, but I don't want to spend three years there.
Speaker 4: I don't remember, but yeah, I mean that's to be
Speaker 4: the sentiment with just about everyone that's hitting those spots
Speaker 4: right now. Right And I've asked some people about the
Speaker 4: Rays experience at Steinberner Field, and they're like, it's put
Speaker 4: together nicely, but they're like, it's super minor league spring
Speaker 4: training game. There's no pomping circumstance. It's it's quiet, it's
Speaker 4: it's not big league entertainment. It's a little bit pure,
Speaker 4: which is cool, but they're like, that's really not how
Speaker 4: the league should be built these days.
Speaker 1: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: But I would definitely not call it.
Speaker 3: By the way, Jacob Wilson. The Jacob Wilson thing is
Speaker 3: if you haven't seen that dude hit it's all.
Speaker 6: He's like my all time. He's like one of my
Speaker 6: favorite hitters. So watch He's like me.
Speaker 3: You don't get to three counts, you don't get the
Speaker 3: three ball counts, you don't get to two strikes.
Speaker 6: They throw one up there. He freaking wax it. Yep.
Speaker 6: Two homers last night. Pretty awesome.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Justin Shackles said he was the one who was
Speaker 7: in Sacramento, was like, I wouldn't want to spend three
Speaker 7: years there. Jacob Wilson, I bought a little I bought
Speaker 7: a little preseason Rookie of the Year for So let's
Speaker 7: keep it going, Willie. Okay, I played with your dad.
Speaker 6: For a little bit.
Speaker 4: So I want to make sure we go back to
Speaker 4: the parks here, which is Jacob Wilson's team. It's not
Speaker 4: a success for them. The A's are eight and thirteen
Speaker 4: at home, they're fourteen and seven on the road. The
Speaker 4: Rays eleven and seventeen at home, eight and five on
Speaker 4: the road. So they're not thrilled with the results right now,
Speaker 4: and wait for it. We've been talking about the summer
Speaker 4: months for both of these ballparks. What's going to happen
Speaker 4: in Sacramento. You're going to be able to bring your
Speaker 4: carton of eggs and cook it on the field or
Speaker 4: on the seats or anything else. It gets to what
Speaker 4: one hundred and ten or something, and we're close by
Speaker 4: to Tampa.
Speaker 3: Well, the Rays aren't going to be in Tampa, so
Speaker 3: theyn't got to worry about it. They're going to spend
Speaker 3: the whole second half on the road.
Speaker 4: But when they are there for some select games, it's
Speaker 4: hot and it rains. So it's just not a great
Speaker 4: fan experience in those environments. Those environments for a big
Speaker 4: league park need.
Speaker 6: And third decks and.
Speaker 2: Roofs if possible.
Speaker 6: But the other day, the third deck is real, said
Speaker 6: someone's I heard him say it. The other day, third
Speaker 6: deck is real. Shacks justin this guy, he's like, the
Speaker 6: third deck is real.
Speaker 7: I think part of them, I think part of both
Speaker 7: of those teams losing at home is it's not a
Speaker 7: big league park and there's very little margin for variants.
Speaker 7: So you have to learn to play at a big
Speaker 7: league park or at a minor league park. That's differently.
Speaker 7: That's different than a big league park. And I get it,
Speaker 7: you're playing the other team's playing in the same park,
Speaker 7: but you're doing a day in and day out.
Speaker 6: And when you come into.
Speaker 7: Tampa and the dudes are going OPO that usually don't
Speaker 7: go APO, it's a completely different scouting report, way to
Speaker 7: pitch guys. And you got to learn that for more
Speaker 7: games than the other team because the other team's out
Speaker 7: of there in three days. So I think it's a
Speaker 7: disadvantage for the teams didn't play